Re: gEDA-user: conversion tools for geda
The reason that I asked was to find out whether I would be able to provide clients with files in their preferred format, but use gEDA as a base. Theoretically I don't think it would be difficult if the formatting details are know. Thanks On 30/09/06, Ales Hvezda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Are there any tools available for converting schematics etc. from the geda format into other formats, such as PCAD, Orcad etc? Isn't this going in the wrong direction? We want to encourage users to come to gEDA, not move away. :- Unfortunately, I am unaware of any conversion tools from gEDA to other tools. However, the gEDA file format is well documented, so if you know the file formats for the other tools, it shouldn't be too hard to develop the necessary converter. -Ales -- Find solutions and build better products - www.engineersimplicity.com Check out my blog - www.engineersimplicity.com/blog/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: conversion tools for geda
On Sep 30, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Duncan Drennan wrote: The reason that I asked was to find out whether I would be able to provide clients with files in their preferred format, but use gEDA as a base. Theoretically I don't think it would be difficult if the formatting details are know. It depends on what they want to do. To edit a gEDA schematic, you need gschem. On the other hand, you can export the schematic as PostScript or PNG. You can export netlists and other design information in a variety of formats. I'm not a PCB designer, but I've successfully exported 5 designs to two different PCB design contractors who wanted different netlist formats. I've also designed a custom mixed-signal VLSI chip, and exported the netlists for that to a chip layout contractor. So, gEDA is pretty flexible in this regard. The customers who want to edit my schematics themselves usually install gschem and proceed. I support them with a CVS archive for revision control and file exchange. One customer just redrew a (relatively simple) schematic with their own tools to get it into their system. But nobody has complained. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: CPLDs and other high-density logic chips...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:11:47PM -0500, David Carr wrote: You can actually do without the binary only kernel modules. I use a GPL tool called xc3sprog to program my Xilinx fpga devices. Do a quick google and you'll find it. It only officially supports Spartan 3 devices but I was able to make it program a Virtex II Pro as well. Let me know if you need some help getting it set up. I finally gave it a shot. What I found was that it did not work with my Spartan 2 board. It might be worth trying with my Spartan2E board (actual product, not experiment board), but I don't have high hopes. I guess I will have to either setup a RHEL4 machine or else buy a Spartan 3 board. Can any one confirm that this program works with Spartan3Es? -- Joshua D. Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jdboyd.net/ http://www.joshuaboyd.org/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: CPLDs and other high-density logic chips...
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 05:07:19PM -0400, Joshua Boyd wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:11:47PM -0500, David Carr wrote: You can actually do without the binary only kernel modules. I use a GPL tool called xc3sprog to program my Xilinx fpga devices. Do a quick google and you'll find it. It only officially supports Spartan 3 devices but I was able to make it program a Virtex II Pro as well. Let me know if you need some help getting it set up. I finally gave it a shot. What I found was that it did not work with my Spartan 2 board. It might be worth trying with my Spartan2E board (actual product, not experiment board), but I don't have high hopes. I guess I will have to either setup a RHEL4 machine or else buy a Spartan 3 board. Can any one confirm that this program works with Spartan3Es? Sorry to reply to myself, but I think I found another approach. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xilinx This describes how to make the Impact kernel module work with any 2.6 kernel. They say to ignore the bundled WinDriver, but the link they provide for getting windriver seperately is broken so I tried the bundled windriver. They both compile, but the windrvr6.ko won't load for me saying: [ 514.004730] windrvr6: no version for struct_module found: kernel tainted. [ 514.007970] windrvr6: Unknown symbol class_simple_device_add [ 514.009876] windrvr6: Unknown symbol class_simple_destroy [ 514.012382] windrvr6: Unknown symbol class_simple_device_remove [ 514.014752] windrvr6: Unknown symbol class_simple_create So, partway back to the drawing board I guess. http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/electronics/fpga/xilinx_install_deb3.1.html That is a long set of directions for fixing an issue that appears to be similar to mine. They say that it is for 2.6.16 and newer, but the symptom is the same as my symptom (2.6.15 from Ubuntu here). I don't have time to implement it at the moment. I figure I will try it with what I got, and if that doesn't work perhaps also upgrade to 2.6.16 and try again. I don't have time to follow through on that now though. -- Joshua D. Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jdboyd.net/ http://www.joshuaboyd.org/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature wishes
Do you have my patch that fixes the snap-to-pin window size? Nope. How do I get that? I just went back to the download page and the version of PCB they have on there is 8/22, which is the version I have. You'd need to check out the working version out of CVS. Let's suppose for example I've just drawn a new line and overshot the target. I don't seem to be able to just select that unconnected endpoint and pull it back to where the place where it should connect. Well, actually I CAN select the line, but when I drag it always makes the entire new line move back. Then the line overshoots the connection on the other end. Either I'm doing something wrong, or this feature doesn't work on unconnected line segment ends. Sounds like the line is selected, or you're grabbing the whole line and not the end. Insert-point tends to mess up my nice orthogonal lines, Keep one finger over the '.' key. It toggles whether insert point limits itself to orthogonal lines or not. Off to pull the line out (two points), on to add the new point on each side to re-ortho it. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature wishes
Let's suppose for example I've just drawn a new line and overshot the target. I don't seem to be able to just select that unconnected endpoint and pull it back to where the place where it should connect. Well, actually I CAN select the line, but when I drag it always makes the entire new line move back. Then the line overshoots the connection on the other end. Either I'm doing something wrong, or this feature doesn't work on unconnected line segment ends. Sounds like the line is selected, or you're grabbing the whole line and not the end. Indeed there seems to be a wide-spread misconception that one must select a line in order to move it. You *can* select it and then move it, but it is not necessary. Just grab and drag it with the arrow tool which is faster and easier. In the case of a line end-point you MUST NOT SELECT IT. Selections always moves the entire selection and there is no way to select only an end point. To move the end point you must just drag the end point with the arrow tool on an unselected line. DJ's patch in CVS only improves (restores the original function some versions ago) the slop (inaccuracy) with which you must grab the end point. h. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: conversion tools for geda
On 30/09/06, Ales Hvezda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Are there any tools available for converting schematics etc. from the geda format into other formats, such as PCAD, Orcad etc? Isn't this going in the wrong direction? We want to encourage users to come to gEDA, not move away. :- Unfortunately, I am unaware of any conversion tools from gEDA to other tools. However, the gEDA file format is well documented, so if you know the file formats for the other tools, it shouldn't be too hard to develop the necessary converter. If someone were going to write a conversion utility wouldn't it make sense to do it as a export option to gschem? It seems like that frees you from having to write YAGP (Yet Another Gschem Parser). I'm also wondering if this could be a good project if someone wanted to extend the guile interface to the point where users could write their own exporters in guile, but thats probably a much larger scale project. -Dan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: question about pcb libraries lesstif HID
library-newlib = /home/john/EEProjects/circuitboards/footprints_pcb but it does not have those library dirs in the library window. Where do I need a configuration file for the lesstif version? In ~/.Xdefaults: Pcb.lib-newlib: /envy/dj/geda/gedasymbols/www/user/dj_delorie A global read-write settings manager is on my todo list. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user