Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...

2004-10-13 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Adam R. B. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has someone made JDK 1.5 the default JVM for Gump??
 
 We have a JDK 1.5 Gump.
 
 http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/

I think Niclas meant: Is the public Gump running JDK 1.5 (by accident)
right now?

The build failures of Crimson and Xerces-1 you can see in the log of
the current(ly stalled) Gump run look as if it was the case.

Stefan

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Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...

2004-10-13 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
 I think Niclas meant: Is the public Gump running JDK 1.5 (by accident)
 right now?

Opps, ok.

http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/index.html

shows:

 Java.version 1.4.2_05 

and this ought'nt have change since Stefano updated it a week-ish ago.

Also, I see this in their build:

 CLASSPATH :/opt/jdk1.4/lib/tools.jar 

 The build failures of Crimson and Xerces-1 you can see in the log of
 the current(ly stalled) Gump run look as if it was the case.

As such, hmm ... I can't explain this.

regards,

Adam

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Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...

2004-10-13 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, the only other explaination is that the xml-apis or something
 have brought DOM v3 into CVS/SVN,

Doesn't look that way:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-commons/java/external/src/org/w3c/dom/Node.java
last change is more than a year old.

Stefan

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Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...

2004-10-13 Thread Adam R. B. Jack

   Java.version 1.4.2_05

 This is from the LAST reasonably successful build - 76%.
 THEN something happened, and xerces and crimson doesn't build since they
are
 somehow compiling against DOM v3, and not DOM v2.

Good point, it is a run out of date. I'm waiting for cron to kick in to set
the environment, and then we'll see.

regards

Adam


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Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...

2004-10-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Adam R. B. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has someone made JDK 1.5 the default JVM for Gump??
We have a JDK 1.5 Gump.
   http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/

I think Niclas meant: Is the public Gump running JDK 1.5 (by accident)
right now?
No, it's not.
The build failures of Crimson and Xerces-1 you can see in the log of
the current(ly stalled) Gump run look as if it was the case.
I have changed the crontab last night to do this:
  0:00 - public [jdk1.4 + gump/live + nagging]
  3:00 - public [jdk1.4 + gump/live]
  6:00 - jdk15  [jdk1.5 + gump/live]
  9:00 - public [jdk1.4 + gump/live]
 12:00 - test   [jdk1.4 + gump/trunk]
 15:00 - public [jdk1.4 + gump/live]
 18:00 - kaffe  [kaffe + gump/live]
 21:00 - public [jdk1.4 + gump/live]
I'm giving 3 hours now since I had the impression that builds were 
starting to overlap.

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Re: Kaffe? [was Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...]

2004-10-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
Ok, I've made the gump/cron/local-env-brutus.sh put the chosen JDK at the
front of the path (it was at the end.)
export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk1.4
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
This seems to cure things, for now:
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/test/buildLog.html
regards,
a, yes! damn, sorry people, the kaffe vm was installed by 
apt-get so it went in the default path and since they have a java 
symlink I think that's what happened.

I will ge rid of those symlinks.
sorry about that (but I guess, only those who don't do anything don't 
break anything ;-)

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Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...

2004-10-13 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 14 October 2004 01:12, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

 I'm giving 3 hours now since I had the impression that builds were
 starting to overlap.

Perhaps not enough :o(

Last log says ; 3 hours 7 minutes.

Start Date/Time (UTC)
Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:02:00 (UTC)

End Date/Time (UTC)
Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:09:10 (UTC)
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   +--//---+
  / http://www.bali.ac/
 / http://niclas.hedhman.org / 
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Re: Kaffe? [was Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...]

2004-10-13 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
 sorry about that (but I guess, only those who don't do anything don't 
 break anything ;-)

Precisely. No problem, no apology needed..
regards
Adam

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Re: JDK 1.5 now running Gump...

2004-10-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Thursday 14 October 2004 01:12, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

I'm giving 3 hours now since I had the impression that builds were
starting to overlap.

Perhaps not enough :o(
Last log says ; 3 hours 7 minutes.
Start Date/Time (UTC)
Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:02:00 (UTC)
End Date/Time (UTC)
Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:09:10 (UTC)
few minutes overlap is fine, an hour is not. Also note that those 3 
hours will be much reduced now that overlap is reduced.

gump is disk-bound and I think the overlap was causing massive delays.
since we have two disks and 4 processors, we should start thinking about 
moving workspaces in the two disks.

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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-21 Thread Sam Ruby
Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
How do we get the word out about the JDK 1.5 Gump runs?
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/
Teams may not be shooting for JDK1.5 compliance right now, but if Gump could
do the leg work for them, maybe they'd do minor tweaks if needed. I could
see this help user, but I feel it has to start sooner, not later (so no
releases go out w/ minor JDK1.5 nits if could be avoided).
Ought we consider notifications? Other ideas?
The way I did this in prior releases was to build it without 
notification, and then personally approach the projects which had 
failures.  I kept a catalog of problems encountered which I dutifully 
submitted to Sun (who had made public claims about being 100% backwards 
compatible - bunk!).  These problems were, of course, summarily ignored.

My experience was that projects by and large were extremely appreciative 
of being given specific and human feedback, and I found the process to 
be very rewarding.

Still, in the case of 1.4, there was a gap of six months to a year 
before everyone felt confortable with making it official.

- Sam Ruby
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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-21 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Yeah, there is something so rewarding about the 'thank you' one gets 99% of
the time. Human feedback it is. Thanks.

regards,

Adam
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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: JDK 1.5


 Adam R. B. Jack wrote:

  How do we get the word out about the JDK 1.5 Gump runs?
 
  http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/
 
  Teams may not be shooting for JDK1.5 compliance right now, but if Gump
could
  do the leg work for them, maybe they'd do minor tweaks if needed. I
could
  see this help user, but I feel it has to start sooner, not later (so no
  releases go out w/ minor JDK1.5 nits if could be avoided).
 
  Ought we consider notifications? Other ideas?

 The way I did this in prior releases was to build it without
 notification, and then personally approach the projects which had
 failures.  I kept a catalog of problems encountered which I dutifully
 submitted to Sun (who had made public claims about being 100% backwards
 compatible - bunk!).  These problems were, of course, summarily ignored.

 My experience was that projects by and large were extremely appreciative
 of being given specific and human feedback, and I found the process to
 be very rewarding.

 Still, in the case of 1.4, there was a gap of six months to a year
 before everyone felt confortable with making it official.

 - Sam Ruby

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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Hi Adam,
a quick Google search concerning this problem brought me to this link :
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=522017forum=316message=2500873
What I understand, is that the problem means that we are trying to run 
under JDK 1.4 some code compiled under JDK 1.5.
These options of javac : -source 1.5 -target jsr14 according to the 
article, allow to compile under jdk1.5 and to run under jdk1.4.

Cheers,
Antoine
Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
The CleanUp branch is getting pretty darn close to matching the CVS HEAD
Gump again (the odd 'didn't expand @@DATE@@ somewhere obscure' kinda bug
might exist, but not in the first  projects, or so this seems to show:
http://gump.try.sybase.com/buildLog.html).
However, we get this w/ CleanUp running on JDK1.5:
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/xml-crimson/xml-crimson/gump_work/build_xml-crimson_xml-crimson.html#Output
Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
org/apache/tools/ant/Main (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
I suspect that this means that (1) the JDK 1.5 compiler was found/used by
bootstrap-ant and and (2) the JDK 1.4 compiler was found/used by Ant and
does not grok JDK 1.5 classes. Just a guess.
Any thoughts on how we tighten things up in an environment where we have
multiple compilers/JDKs installed? Can we get Ant to (tersely) tell us which
compiler it has found and is using? Ought we try to tell Ant?
The story this tells, is confused (at best):
   http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/environment.html#Annotations
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/environment.html#Tail+of+CheckEnvironment+%3A+check_java_compiler
Thanks in advance.
regards,
Adam
 


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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Thanks, but our goal is to work completely in JDK1.5, so the task is to
either tighten our environment (to make JDK 1.4 simply not available to
the JDK 1.5 run) or to be more explicit/careful in Gump code (and bootstrap
scripts). I suspect the latter has the better long-term mileage, but I don't
know the best approach (for launching JDK compiler, and/or for Ant).

[We've had a need to have tools.jar on the CLASSPATH, so Ant can find a
compiler, which kinda goes against the purpose of Gump, and it setting
CLASSPATH. This is a JIRA entry I'd like to close.]

FWIIW: I'm facing similar w/ moving to Python 2.3 (and on some platforms I
need to check for 'python2.3' executable prior to 'python'). This is easier
since the scripts are more in my direct control.

regards,

Adam
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From: Antoine Levy-Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gump code and data [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: JDK 1.5


 Hi Adam,

 a quick Google search concerning this problem brought me to this link :

http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=522017forum=316message=2500873
 What I understand, is that the problem means that we are trying to run
 under JDK 1.4 some code compiled under JDK 1.5.
 These options of javac : -source 1.5 -target jsr14 according to the
 article, allow to compile under jdk1.5 and to run under jdk1.4.

 Cheers,
 Antoine

 Adam R. B. Jack wrote:

 The CleanUp branch is getting pretty darn close to matching the CVS HEAD
 Gump again (the odd 'didn't expand @@DATE@@ somewhere obscure' kinda bug
 might exist, but not in the first  projects, or so this seems to show:
 http://gump.try.sybase.com/buildLog.html).
 
 However, we get this w/ CleanUp running on JDK1.5:
 
 

http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/xml-crimson/xml-crimson/gump_work/build
_xml-crimson_xml-crimson.html#Output
 
 Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
 org/apache/tools/ant/Main (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
 
 I suspect that this means that (1) the JDK 1.5 compiler was found/used by
 bootstrap-ant and and (2) the JDK 1.4 compiler was found/used by Ant and
 does not grok JDK 1.5 classes. Just a guess.
 
 Any thoughts on how we tighten things up in an environment where we have
 multiple compilers/JDKs installed? Can we get Ant to (tersely) tell us
which
 compiler it has found and is using? Ought we try to tell Ant?
 
 The story this tells, is confused (at best):
 
 http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/environment.html#Annotations
 

http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/environment.html#Tail+of+CheckEnvironme
nt+%3A+check_java_compiler
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 regards,
 
 Adam
 
 



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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Adam R. B. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/xml-crimson/xml-crimson/gump_work/build_xml-crimson_xml-crimson.html#Output

I get an internal server error when I try to access this.

 Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
 org/apache/tools/ant/Main (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)

Most probably means that bootstrap-ant has been built by JDK 1.5,
while the Java VM running Ant when building Crimson is JDK 1.4.

Stefan

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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack

 On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Adam R. B. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/xml-crimson/xml-crimson/gump_work/build_xml-crimson_xml-crimson.html#Output

 I get an internal server error when I try to access this.

Yes, I foolishly tried to remove an xdocs related bug before I went away for
the long weekend, and trashed it. Working to restore, sorry...

  Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
  org/apache/tools/ant/Main (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)

 Most probably means that bootstrap-ant has been built by JDK 1.5,
 while the Java VM running Ant when building Crimson is JDK 1.4.

Agreed, now how do we work w/ Ant to ensure this does not happen? Also, if
you see then env page (when it comes back) just launching Java seems to give
JDK1.4.

regards

Adam


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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Adam R. B. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Agreed, now how do we work w/ Ant to ensure this does not happen? 
 Also, if you see then env page (when it comes back) just launching
 Java seems to give JDK1.4.

Hmm, while we wait for the env page to come back 8-)

boostrap-ant will probably pick up tools.jar from the CLASSPATH, but
this shouldn't be necessary as the script can find it on its own if
JAVA_HOME is set correctly.

I have no idea how you launch java from Python.  This one obviously
does not use the 1.5 JDK.

Stefan

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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
  

http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/xml-crimson/xml-crimson/gump_work/build_xml-crimson_xml-crimson.html#Output
 
  I get an internal server error when I try to access this.

 Yes, I foolishly tried to remove an xdocs related bug before I went away
for
 the long weekend, and trashed it. Working to restore, sorry...

Ought be back.

regards

Adam


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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack

 boostrap-ant will probably pick up tools.jar from the CLASSPATH, but
 this shouldn't be necessary as the script can find it on its own if
 JAVA_HOME is set correctly.

For some reason I didn't beleive that to be the case (back when I added the
usage of the system CLASSPATH w/ tools in it.) I've not checked in a long
time. You feeling game to try a copy of Gumpy (again) to see if you can
investigate for us? No pressure, but clearly I failed to figure it out eons
ago.

 I have no idea how you launch java from Python.  This one obviously
 does not use the 1.5 JDK.

It simple makes a system call to 'java', so it gets what is first on the
path.

BTW: I just remembered ... I think the gump (user account) profile includes
the local-env-py.sh from public! This was added back when there was only one
(FWIIW: not by me, or I'd've remembered sooner). I don't think this is
needed, nor wanted -- and is likely a problem. I don't know if cron worked
without that, but I think it should.

I'll comment out, and hope I don't dork things up before I go away. This was
in ~/.bash_profile and is now commented out:

# For now we only have one Gump running, so
# we can take values from it.
#. /usr/local/gump/public/gump/local-env-py-brutus.sh

regards,

Adam


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Re: JDK 1.5

2004-07-02 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
  I have no idea how you launch java from Python.  This one obviously
  does not use the 1.5 JDK.

 It simple makes a system call to 'java', so it gets what is first on the
 path.

Ah yes, the PATH is visible here:

http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/gump_work/check_env.html
and
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/gump_work/check_env.html

Currently JDK15 shows:
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/j2sdk1.
4.2_04/bin:/usr/local/gump/forrest/bin:/usr/local/gump/maven-1.0-rc3/bin:/us
r/local/jdk1.5.0/bin:/usr/local/gump/maven-1.0-rc3/bin
w/ JDK1.4 earlier in path.Let me try a run w/o that (exit the shell I am in
and re-enter).Yup, better:
http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/gump_work/check_env.htmlI tried using
threads --- and got CVS errors -- hmm, so some work to do.I've turned them
off, and we are making some
progress:http://brutus.apache.org/gump/jdk15/buildLog.htmlregards

Adam


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