Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

and please.. don't just send the log of the discussions here...

Email (asynchronous) follows a different format than a chat conversation.


When you write an email, you usually put int extra effort on giving
the context... when you go to a chat channel is more like..

Example:
***
 Hey.. wasup.. remember what we were talking yesterday?

 Yeah.. lets do it..
***

Bang... nobody will know when you send that to the dev list log. when
you search 3 months from now.. even less.
ok, Ok.. I gave a silly example.. but I can easily see that kind of
thing happening in real life.



Instead... send an email to the dev list.. summarizing the whole
online discussion:



***
We had a discussion online, and we had a discussion about "context
goes here", and we decided that would be cool to do what "context goes
here".
**



If you just copy the log from slack into the mail list, you're not
really solving the problem. people will just ignore the list and slack
became the official source for communications.








On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Clebert Suconic
>  wrote:
>> ...I still think you should keep discussions
>> at the dev list
>
> Yes.
>
> "If it didn't happen on the dev list it didn't happen" is stil valid as ever.
>
> Slack and other channels are fine for throwaway watercooler
> discussions, nothing more.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Clebert Suconic
 wrote:
> ...I still think you should keep discussions
> at the dev list

Yes.

"If it didn't happen on the dev list it didn't happen" is stil valid as ever.

Slack and other channels are fine for throwaway watercooler
discussions, nothing more.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

I couldn't find anything at storage-class-memory.slack.com


I am joining the thing.. but I still think you should keep discussions
at the dev list.

if someone could help me to get on the group please?

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> I see your point, Lazy is one of motivation why we want to code, so perhaps
> a Slack summary bot is desired... :-)
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Clebert Suconic > wrote:
>
>> I don't think you should sync it...
>>
>> Someone else please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I was educated
>> inside the project I work at.. (activemq) that talking on a private
>> list is ok... but you should always direct the discussions to the dev
>> list with a summary of the decision.. etc I was once told if it
>> didn't happen in the mail list.. it didn't happen.
>>
>>
>> for instance.. a few weeks from now... (Not even saying months or
>> years).. the context of the private discussions will be lost.. they
>> won't make any sense.. syncing chat here will just spam the list.
>>
>>
>> from my understanding the mail list is the place to go for discussion
>> on the apache way. I guess I'm just trying to do the same here..
>>
>> for instance I didn't go to the slack channel.. hence nothing really
>> happened at apache.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Gary Wong  wrote:
>> > It is #storage-class-memory
>> >
>> > Let me take a look to see if there is a way to sync slack channel with
>> mail
>> > list bi-directionally...
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Clebert Suconic <
>> clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> All the communication is happening on slatck?
>> >>
>> >> shouldn't that all happen on a mail list?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's ok to talk on a list.. but you should consider always feeding the
>> >> list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What is the slack channel again? I will join in regardless.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Lewis,
>> >> >
>> >> > Invitation sent, Welcome to join us.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best.
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Lewis John McGibbney <
>> >> lewi...@apache.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Gary,
>> >> >> I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping
>> >> it. I
>> >> >> have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using
>> >> Avro)
>> >> >> for a number of years. Gora is described as follows
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data
>> model
>> >> >> and persistence for big data. Gora supports persisting to
>> >> >>  * column stores,
>> >> >>  * key value stores,
>> >> >>  * document stores,
>> >> >>  * distributed in-memory key/value stores,
>> >> >>  * in-memory data grids,
>> >> >>  * in-memory caches,
>> >> >>  * distributed multi-model stores, and
>> >> >>  * hybrid in-memory architectures
>> >> >> Gora also enables analysis of data with extensive Apache Hadoop
>> >> MapReduce
>> >> >> and Apache Spark support. Gora uses the Apache Software License v2.0.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please send me an invite to the slack channel > >> org>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Lewis
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 2017-10-19 11:55, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>> >> >> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
>> analytics
>> >> >> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
>> >> non-volatile
>> >> >> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
>> fundamentally
>> >> >> change
>> >> >> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>> >> >> happened
>> >> >> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>> >> >> possible, I
>> >> >> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>> >> >> collaboration
>> >> >> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>> >> >> > technology-oriented projects.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best.
>> >> >> > Gary.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

I see your point, Lazy is one of motivation why we want to code, so perhaps
a Slack summary bot is desired... :-)


On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Clebert Suconic  wrote:

> I don't think you should sync it...
>
> Someone else please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I was educated
> inside the project I work at.. (activemq) that talking on a private
> list is ok... but you should always direct the discussions to the dev
> list with a summary of the decision.. etc I was once told if it
> didn't happen in the mail list.. it didn't happen.
>
>
> for instance.. a few weeks from now... (Not even saying months or
> years).. the context of the private discussions will be lost.. they
> won't make any sense.. syncing chat here will just spam the list.
>
>
> from my understanding the mail list is the place to go for discussion
> on the apache way. I guess I'm just trying to do the same here..
>
> for instance I didn't go to the slack channel.. hence nothing really
> happened at apache.
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Gary Wong  wrote:
> > It is #storage-class-memory
> >
> > Let me take a look to see if there is a way to sync slack channel with
> mail
> > list bi-directionally...
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> All the communication is happening on slatck?
> >>
> >> shouldn't that all happen on a mail list?
> >>
> >>
> >> It's ok to talk on a list.. but you should consider always feeding the
> >> list.
> >>
> >>
> >> What is the slack channel again? I will join in regardless.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Lewis,
> >> >
> >> > Invitation sent, Welcome to join us.
> >> >
> >> > Best.
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Lewis John McGibbney <
> >> lewi...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Gary,
> >> >> I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping
> >> it. I
> >> >> have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using
> >> Avro)
> >> >> for a number of years. Gora is described as follows
> >> >>
> >> >> The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data
> model
> >> >> and persistence for big data. Gora supports persisting to
> >> >>  * column stores,
> >> >>  * key value stores,
> >> >>  * document stores,
> >> >>  * distributed in-memory key/value stores,
> >> >>  * in-memory data grids,
> >> >>  * in-memory caches,
> >> >>  * distributed multi-model stores, and
> >> >>  * hybrid in-memory architectures
> >> >> Gora also enables analysis of data with extensive Apache Hadoop
> >> MapReduce
> >> >> and Apache Spark support. Gora uses the Apache Software License v2.0.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please send me an invite to the slack channel  >> org>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Lewis
> >> >>
> >> >> On 2017-10-19 11:55, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
> >> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> >> >> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> analytics
> >> >> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> >> non-volatile
> >> >> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
> fundamentally
> >> >> change
> >> >> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> >> >> happened
> >> >> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> >> >> possible, I
> >> >> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> >> >> collaboration
> >> >> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> >> >> > technology-oriented projects.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best.
> >> >> > Gary.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 
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> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

I don't think you should sync it...

Someone else please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I was educated
inside the project I work at.. (activemq) that talking on a private
list is ok... but you should always direct the discussions to the dev
list with a summary of the decision.. etc I was once told if it
didn't happen in the mail list.. it didn't happen.


for instance.. a few weeks from now... (Not even saying months or
years).. the context of the private discussions will be lost.. they
won't make any sense.. syncing chat here will just spam the list.


from my understanding the mail list is the place to go for discussion
on the apache way. I guess I'm just trying to do the same here..

for instance I didn't go to the slack channel.. hence nothing really
happened at apache.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Gary Wong  wrote:
> It is #storage-class-memory
>
> Let me take a look to see if there is a way to sync slack channel with mail
> list bi-directionally...
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Clebert Suconic 
> wrote:
>
>> All the communication is happening on slatck?
>>
>> shouldn't that all happen on a mail list?
>>
>>
>> It's ok to talk on a list.. but you should consider always feeding the
>> list.
>>
>>
>> What is the slack channel again? I will join in regardless.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Lewis,
>> >
>> > Invitation sent, Welcome to join us.
>> >
>> > Best.
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Lewis John McGibbney <
>> lewi...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Gary,
>> >> I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping
>> it. I
>> >> have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using
>> Avro)
>> >> for a number of years. Gora is described as follows
>> >>
>> >> The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data model
>> >> and persistence for big data. Gora supports persisting to
>> >>  * column stores,
>> >>  * key value stores,
>> >>  * document stores,
>> >>  * distributed in-memory key/value stores,
>> >>  * in-memory data grids,
>> >>  * in-memory caches,
>> >>  * distributed multi-model stores, and
>> >>  * hybrid in-memory architectures
>> >> Gora also enables analysis of data with extensive Apache Hadoop
>> MapReduce
>> >> and Apache Spark support. Gora uses the Apache Software License v2.0.
>> >>
>> >> Please send me an invite to the slack channel > org>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Lewis
>> >>
>> >> On 2017-10-19 11:55, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>> >> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>> >> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
>> non-volatile
>> >> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
>> >> change
>> >> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>> >> happened
>> >> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>> >> possible, I
>> >> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>> >> collaboration
>> >> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>> >> > technology-oriented projects.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best.
>> >> > Gary.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> -
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>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gary Wong]

It is #storage-class-memory

Let me take a look to see if there is a way to sync slack channel with mail
list bi-directionally...

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Clebert Suconic 
wrote:

> All the communication is happening on slatck?
>
> shouldn't that all happen on a mail list?
>
>
> It's ok to talk on a list.. but you should consider always feeding the
> list.
>
>
> What is the slack channel again? I will join in regardless.
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> > Hi Lewis,
> >
> > Invitation sent, Welcome to join us.
> >
> > Best.
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Lewis John McGibbney <
> lewi...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Gary,
> >> I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping
> it. I
> >> have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using
> Avro)
> >> for a number of years. Gora is described as follows
> >>
> >> The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data model
> >> and persistence for big data. Gora supports persisting to
> >>  * column stores,
> >>  * key value stores,
> >>  * document stores,
> >>  * distributed in-memory key/value stores,
> >>  * in-memory data grids,
> >>  * in-memory caches,
> >>  * distributed multi-model stores, and
> >>  * hybrid in-memory architectures
> >> Gora also enables analysis of data with extensive Apache Hadoop
> MapReduce
> >> and Apache Spark support. Gora uses the Apache Software License v2.0.
> >>
> >> Please send me an invite to the slack channel  org>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Lewis
> >>
> >> On 2017-10-19 11:55, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> >> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> >> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> non-volatile
> >> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> >> change
> >> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> >> happened
> >> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> >> possible, I
> >> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> >> collaboration
> >> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> >> > technology-oriented projects.
> >> >
> >> > Best.
> >> > Gary.
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
> >>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

All the communication is happening on slatck?

shouldn't that all happen on a mail list?


It's ok to talk on a list.. but you should consider always feeding the list.


What is the slack channel again? I will join in regardless.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> Hi Lewis,
>
> Invitation sent, Welcome to join us.
>
> Best.
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Lewis John McGibbney 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary,
>> I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping it. I
>> have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using Avro)
>> for a number of years. Gora is described as follows
>>
>> The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data model
>> and persistence for big data. Gora supports persisting to
>>  * column stores,
>>  * key value stores,
>>  * document stores,
>>  * distributed in-memory key/value stores,
>>  * in-memory data grids,
>>  * in-memory caches,
>>  * distributed multi-model stores, and
>>  * hybrid in-memory architectures
>> Gora also enables analysis of data with extensive Apache Hadoop MapReduce
>> and Apache Spark support. Gora uses the Apache Software License v2.0.
>>
>> Please send me an invite to the slack channel 
>>
>> Thanks
>> Lewis
>>
>> On 2017-10-19 11:55, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
>> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
>> change
>> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>> happened
>> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>> possible, I
>> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>> collaboration
>> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>> > technology-oriented projects.
>> >
>> > Best.
>> > Gary.
>> >
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Hi Lewis,

Invitation sent, Welcome to join us.

Best.
Gary


On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Lewis John McGibbney 
wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping it. I
> have been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using Avro)
> for a number of years. Gora is described as follows
>
> The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data model
> and persistence for big data. Gora supports persisting to
>  * column stores,
>  * key value stores,
>  * document stores,
>  * distributed in-memory key/value stores,
>  * in-memory data grids,
>  * in-memory caches,
>  * distributed multi-model stores, and
>  * hybrid in-memory architectures
> Gora also enables analysis of data with extensive Apache Hadoop MapReduce
> and Apache Spark support. Gora uses the Apache Software License v2.0.
>
> Please send me an invite to the slack channel 
>
> Thanks
> Lewis
>
> On 2017-10-19 11:55, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> change
> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> happened
> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> possible, I
> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> collaboration
> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> > technology-oriented projects.
> >
> > Best.
> > Gary.
> >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Lewis John McGibbney]

Hi Gary,
I was watching this thread evolve a while back and ended up dropping it. I have 
been working on Apache Gora (Generic Object Representation using Avro) for a 
number of years. Gora is described as follows

The Apache Gora open source framework provides an in-memory data model 
and persistence for big data. Gora supports persisting to 
 * column stores,
 * key value stores,
 * document stores,
 * distributed in-memory key/value stores,
 * in-memory data grids,
 * in-memory caches,
 * distributed multi-model stores, and
 * hybrid in-memory architectures 
Gora also enables analysis of data with extensive Apache Hadoop MapReduce 
and Apache Spark support. Gora uses the Apache Software License v2.0.

Please send me an invite to the slack channel 

Thanks
Lewis

On 2017-10-19 11:55, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote: 
> Hi all,
> 
> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> technology-oriented projects.
> 
> Best.
> Gary.
> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Avinash Dongre]

Thanks Gary,

I have already joined slack channel.

Thanks
Avinash


On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

> Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and
> join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks!
>
> Best
> Gary.
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Avinash Dongre 
> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to participate in this as well.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Avinash
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >
> > > looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register
> on
> > > https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel
> > #storage-class-memory,
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
> > > > mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to
> post
> > > > major findings and summary on Apache mail list...
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our
> workgroup.
> > > the
> > > >> > progress is
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
> > > >> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this
> > > Slack
> > > >> > channel -  not yet but soon later
> > > >> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
> > > >> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory
> > > resource
> > > >> -
> > > >> > trying but not guaranteed
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > > >> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have
> a
> > > >> > > discussion...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah  >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > > Hello Gary,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup
> > (I
> > > am
> > > >> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling
> for
> > > >> this)
> > > >> > > where
> > > >> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > thanks
> > > >> > > > -- Hitesh
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > > ga...@apache.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and
> APIs
> > > for
> > > >> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> > > >> please go
> > > >> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <
> > > ddu...@gmail.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
> > > >> common
> > > >> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > Debo
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > > ga...@apache.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > > >> > ga...@apache.org
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > >> > >> Add ORC
> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> > > >> oriented
> > > >> > > >> > *Distributed
> > > >> > > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset,
> > Distributed
> > > >> Data
> > > >> > > >> Store,
> > > >> > > >> > >> Columnar 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Hi Amit and Atri,

The invitations have been sent to your mailbox, please accept to join our
channel #storage-class-memory. thanks.

Best,
Gary.


On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 5:02 AM, Atri Sharma  wrote:

> I would like to participate as well
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> > Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and
> > join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks!
> >
> > Best
> > Gary.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Avinash Dongre 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to participate in this as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Avinash
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please
> register on
> >> > https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel
> >> #storage-class-memory,
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
> >> > > mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to
> post
> >> > > major findings and summary on Apache mail list...
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> >> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our
> workgroup.
> >> > the
> >> > >> > progress is
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
> >> > >> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this
> >> > Slack
> >> > >> > channel -  not yet but soon later
> >> > >> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
> >> > >> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory
> >> > resource
> >> > >> -
> >> > >> > trying but not guaranteed
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> >> > >> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can
> have a
> >> > >> > > discussion...
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah <
> hit...@apache.org>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > > Hello Gary,
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this
> workgroup
> >> (I
> >> > am
> >> > >> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling
> for
> >> > >> this)
> >> > >> > > where
> >> > >> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > thanks
> >> > >> > > > -- Hitesh
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> >> > ga...@apache.org
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and
> APIs
> >> > for
> >> > >> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> >> > >> please go
> >> > >> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup.
> Thanks!
> >> > >> > > >>
> >> > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <
> >> > ddu...@gmail.com
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > > >>
> >> > >> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working
> towards
> >> > >> common
> >> > >> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> >> > >> > > >> >
> >> > >> > > >> > Debo
> >> > >> > > >> >
> >> > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> > >> > > >> >
> >> > >> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> >> > ga...@apache.org
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> >> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> >> > >> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> >> > >> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> >> > >> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> >> > >> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> >> > >> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
> >> > >> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> >> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> >> > >> > ga...@apache.org
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > >> > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > >> > >> Add ORC
> >> > >> > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> >> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> >> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> >> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> >> > >> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> >> > >> > > >> > >>   - 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Atri Sharma]

I would like to participate as well

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and
> join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks!
>
> Best
> Gary.
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Avinash Dongre  wrote:
>
>> I'd like to participate in this as well.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Avinash
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>>
>> > looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register on
>> > https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel
>> #storage-class-memory,
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
>> > > mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to post
>> > > major findings and summary on Apache mail list...
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic <
>> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang 
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup.
>> > the
>> > >> > progress is
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
>> > >> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this
>> > Slack
>> > >> > channel -  not yet but soon later
>> > >> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
>> > >> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory
>> > resource
>> > >> -
>> > >> > trying but not guaranteed
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
>> > >> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a
>> > >> > > discussion...
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah 
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > Hello Gary,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup
>> (I
>> > am
>> > >> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for
>> > >> this)
>> > >> > > where
>> > >> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > thanks
>> > >> > > > -- Hitesh
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
>> > ga...@apache.org
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs
>> > for
>> > >> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
>> > >> please go
>> > >> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
>> > >> > > >>
>> > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <
>> > ddu...@gmail.com
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > > >>
>> > >> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
>> > >> common
>> > >> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
>> > >> > > >> >
>> > >> > > >> > Debo
>> > >> > > >> >
>> > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > >> > > >> >
>> > >> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
>> > ga...@apache.org
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > >> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > >> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
>> > >> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
>> > >> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
>> > >> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
>> > >> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
>> > >> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
>> > >> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > >> > > >> > >
>> > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
>> > >> > ga...@apache.org
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >> > wrote:
>> > >> > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > >> > >> Add ORC
>> > >> > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
>> > >> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
>> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>> > >> > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
>> > >> oriented
>> > >> > > >> > *Distributed
>> > >> > > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset,
>> Distributed
>> > >> Data
>> > >> > > >> Store,
>> > >> > > >> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable
>> Computing
>> > >> > Model*
>> > >> > > for
>> > >> > > >> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
>> > >> querying,
>> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Amit Saha]

Hi Gary,

I think the admin needs to invite. I could not join.

Regards,
Amit

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

> Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and
> join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks!
>
> Best
> Gary.
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Avinash Dongre 
> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to participate in this as well.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Avinash
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >
> > > looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register
> on
> > > https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel
> > #storage-class-memory,
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
> > > > mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to
> post
> > > > major findings and summary on Apache mail list...
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our
> workgroup.
> > > the
> > > >> > progress is
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
> > > >> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this
> > > Slack
> > > >> > channel -  not yet but soon later
> > > >> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
> > > >> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory
> > > resource
> > > >> -
> > > >> > trying but not guaranteed
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > > >> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have
> a
> > > >> > > discussion...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah  >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > > Hello Gary,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup
> > (I
> > > am
> > > >> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling
> for
> > > >> this)
> > > >> > > where
> > > >> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > thanks
> > > >> > > > -- Hitesh
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > > ga...@apache.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and
> APIs
> > > for
> > > >> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> > > >> please go
> > > >> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <
> > > ddu...@gmail.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
> > > >> common
> > > >> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > Debo
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > > ga...@apache.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
> > > >> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > > >> > ga...@apache.org
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > >> > >> Add ORC
> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > > >> > > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> > > >> oriented
> > > >> > > >> > *Distributed
> > > >> > > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset,
> > Distributed
> > > >> Data
> > > >> > > >> Store,
> > > >> > > >> > >> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Hi Avinash, Welcome to join us. please register in the-asf.slack.com and
join our channel #storage-class-memory as well, Thanks!

Best
Gary.

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Avinash Dongre  wrote:

> I'd like to participate in this as well.
>
> Thanks
> Avinash
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>
> > looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register on
> > https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel
> #storage-class-memory,
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
> > > mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to post
> > > major findings and summary on Apache mail list...
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup.
> > the
> > >> > progress is
> > >> >
> > >> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
> > >> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this
> > Slack
> > >> > channel -  not yet but soon later
> > >> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
> > >> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory
> > resource
> > >> -
> > >> > trying but not guaranteed
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > >> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a
> > >> > > discussion...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > Hello Gary,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup
> (I
> > am
> > >> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for
> > >> this)
> > >> > > where
> > >> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > thanks
> > >> > > > -- Hitesh
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > ga...@apache.org
> > >> >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs
> > for
> > >> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> > >> please go
> > >> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <
> > ddu...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
> > >> common
> > >> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Debo
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > ga...@apache.org
> > >> >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > >> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > >> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > >> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > >> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > >> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
> > >> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > >> > ga...@apache.org
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> Add ORC
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > >> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > >> > > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> > >> oriented
> > >> > > >> > *Distributed
> > >> > > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset,
> Distributed
> > >> Data
> > >> > > >> Store,
> > >> > > >> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable
> Computing
> > >> > Model*
> > >> > > for
> > >> > > >> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> > >> querying,
> > >> > > >> > >> processing, and analytics.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> > >> > > >> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >>> I can 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Avinash Dongre]

I'd like to participate in this as well.

Thanks
Avinash


On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

> looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register on
> https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel #storage-class-memory,
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
> > mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to post
> > major findings and summary on Apache mail list...
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup.
> the
> >> > progress is
> >> >
> >> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
> >> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this
> Slack
> >> > channel -  not yet but soon later
> >> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
> >> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory
> resource
> >> -
> >> > trying but not guaranteed
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> >> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a
> >> > > discussion...
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > Hello Gary,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I
> am
> >> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for
> >> this)
> >> > > where
> >> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > thanks
> >> > > > -- Hitesh
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs
> for
> >> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> >> please go
> >> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <
> ddu...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
> >> common
> >> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Debo
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> >> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> >> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> >> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> >> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> >> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
> >> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> >> > ga...@apache.org
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > >> Add ORC
> >> > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> >> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> >> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> >> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> >> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> >> > > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> >> > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> >> oriented
> >> > > >> > *Distributed
> >> > > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed
> >> Data
> >> > > >> Store,
> >> > > >> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing
> >> > Model*
> >> > > for
> >> > > >> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> >> querying,
> >> > > >> > >> processing, and analytics.
> >> > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> >> > > >> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> >> > > >> > >>>
> >> > > >> > >>> .. Owen
> >> > > >> > >>>
> >> > > >> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> >> > ga...@apache.org>
> >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> >  Hi all,
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge
> >> > potential
> >> > > >> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> >> > > analytics
> >> > > >> >  because silicon companies are 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

looks I'm not able to invite you by email in Slack, so please register on
https://the-asf.slack.com and then join our channel #storage-class-memory,
Thanks!



On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

> Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
> mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to post
> major findings and summary on Apache mail list...
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup. the
>> > progress is
>> >
>> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
>> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this Slack
>> > channel -  not yet but soon later
>> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
>> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory resource
>> -
>> > trying but not guaranteed
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
>> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a
>> > > discussion...
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah 
>> wrote:
>> > > > Hello Gary,
>> > > >
>> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am
>> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for
>> this)
>> > > where
>> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
>> > > >
>> > > > thanks
>> > > > -- Hitesh
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
>> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
>> please go
>> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
>> common
>> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Debo
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
>> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
>> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
>> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
>> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
>> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
>> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
>> > ga...@apache.org
>> > > >
>> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> Add ORC
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
>> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
>> > > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
>> oriented
>> > > >> > *Distributed
>> > > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed
>> Data
>> > > >> Store,
>> > > >> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing
>> > Model*
>> > > for
>> > > >> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
>> querying,
>> > > >> > >> processing, and analytics.
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
>> > > >> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> > >>> .. Owen
>> > > >> > >>>
>> > > >> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
>> > ga...@apache.org>
>> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > 
>> > > >> >  Hi all,
>> > > >> > 
>> > > >> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge
>> > potential
>> > > >> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
>> > > analytics
>> > > >> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
>> > > >> > non-volatile
>> > > >> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
>> > > fundamentally
>> > > >> > >>> change
>> > > >> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar
>> to
>> > > what
>> > > >> > >>> happened
>> > > >> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s.
>> so if
>> > > >> > >>> possible, I
>> > > >> >  advocate 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Yes, it is another great communication for real-time chat, Debo also
mentioned it, so let's create one if desired and we still need to post
major findings and summary on Apache mail list...

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Clebert Suconic  wrote:

> What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>
> > Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup. the
> > progress is
> >
> > 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
> > 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this Slack
> > channel -  not yet but soon later
> > 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
> > 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory resource -
> > trying but not guaranteed
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a
> > > discussion...
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah 
> wrote:
> > > > Hello Gary,
> > > >
> > > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am
> > > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for this)
> > > where
> > > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > -- Hitesh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
> > > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please
> go
> > > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
> > > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Debo
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > > >> > >   - Integrating one another
> > > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > ga...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Add ORC
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> oriented
> > > >> > *Distributed
> > > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed
> Data
> > > >> Store,
> > > >> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing
> > Model*
> > > for
> > > >> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> querying,
> > > >> > >> processing, and analytics.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> > > >> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> .. Owen
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > ga...@apache.org>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >  Hi all,
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge
> > potential
> > > >> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> > > analytics
> > > >> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> > > >> > non-volatile
> > > >> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
> > > fundamentally
> > > >> > >>> change
> > > >> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar to
> > > what
> > > >> > >>> happened
> > > >> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so
> if
> > > >> > >>> possible, I
> > > >> >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> > > >> > >>> collaboration
> > > >> >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class
> > > memory
> > > >> >  technology-oriented projects.
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >  Best.
> > > >> >  Gary.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Good Apache program name for storage-class memory oriented projects, so
let's propose this program to Apache board if appropriate, Thanks!

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) 
wrote:

> BTW should we name this group “Apache Durable Computing Initiative”?
>
> debo
>
> On 10/24/17, 11:18 AM, "Debo Dutta (dedutta)"  wrote:
>
> Yes, the moment we have the workgroup mailer setup, will send out a
> DISCUSS thread.
>
> debo
>
> On 10/24/17, 10:14 AM, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
>
> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> please go
> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
> wrote:
>
> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
> common
> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> >
> > Debo
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > >
> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > >   - Integrating one another
> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Add ORC
> > >>
> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > >>
> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> oriented
> > *Distributed
> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed
> Data Store,
> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing
> Model* for
> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> querying,
> > >> processing, and analytics.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> > >>>
> > >>> .. Owen
> > >>>
> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  Hi all,
> > 
> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge
> potential
> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> analytics
> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> > non-volatile
> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
> fundamentally
> > >>> change
> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar
> to what
> > >>> happened
> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s.
> so if
> > >>> possible, I
> >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> > >>> collaboration
> >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class
> memory
> >  technology-oriented projects.
> > 
> >  Best.
> >  Gary.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> > 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

What about IRC.  A lot of projects use it at Apache.



On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:51 PM Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

> Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup. the
> progress is
>
> 1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
> 2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this Slack
> channel -  not yet but soon later
> 3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
> 4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory resource -
> trying but not guaranteed
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic <
> clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a
> > discussion...
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah  wrote:
> > > Hello Gary,
> > >
> > > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am
> > > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for this)
> > where
> > > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > -- Hitesh
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
> > >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go
> > >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
> > >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> > >> >
> > >> > Debo
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > >> > >   - Integrating one another
> > >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org
> > >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Add ORC
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented
> > >> > *Distributed
> > >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data
> > >> Store,
> > >> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing
> Model*
> > for
> > >> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
> > >> > >> processing, and analytics.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> > >> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> .. Owen
> > >> > >>>
> > >> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > 
> > >> >  Hi all,
> > >> > 
> > >> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge
> potential
> > >> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> > analytics
> > >> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> > >> > non-volatile
> > >> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
> > fundamentally
> > >> > >>> change
> > >> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar to
> > what
> > >> > >>> happened
> > >> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> > >> > >>> possible, I
> > >> >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> > >> > >>> collaboration
> > >> >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class
> > memory
> > >> >  technology-oriented projects.
> > >> > 
> > >> >  Best.
> > >> >  Gary.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> -
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> > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Add *ActiveMQ and Geode*

   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
   - *Hive/LLAP *represented by *Gopal Vijayaraghavan*
   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
   - *RocketMQ  *represented by *Von Gosling*
   - *ActiveMQ *represented by *Clebert Suconic*
   - *Geode *represented by *Swapnil Bawaskar*
   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*

With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented *Distributed
Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data Store,
Columnar Storage, **Live Long And Process, Distributed Messaging and
Streaming, High Performance Data Management, **Durable Object Model,
Durable Computing Model* for new generation high-performance applications,
e.g. data querying, processing, and analytics.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Swapnil Bawaskar <
swapnil.bawas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would be happy to represent Apache Geode.
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) 
> wrote:
>
> > BTW should we name this group “Apache Durable Computing Initiative”?
> >
> > debo
> >
> > On 10/24/17, 11:18 AM, "Debo Dutta (dedutta)"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the moment we have the workgroup mailer setup, will send out a
> > DISCUSS thread.
> >
> > debo
> >
> > On 10/24/17, 10:14 AM, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
> >
> > It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs
> for
> > storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> > please go
> > ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <
> ddu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
> > common
> > > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> > >
> > > Debo
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > > >
> > > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > > >   - Integrating one another
> > > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > ga...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Add ORC
> > > >>
> > > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > > >>
> > > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> > oriented
> > > *Distributed
> > > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed
> > Data Store,
> > > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing
> > Model* for
> > > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> > querying,
> > > >> processing, and analytics.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> > owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> .. Owen
> > > >>>
> > >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > ga...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Hi all,
> > > 
> > >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge
> > potential
> > >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> > analytics
> > >  because silicon companies are able to produce high
> capacity
> > > non-volatile
> > >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
> > fundamentally
> > > >>> change
> > >  the way to construct high performance applications similar
> > to what
> > > >>> happened
> > >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s.
> > so if
> > > >>> possible, I
> > >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance
> the
> > > >>> collaboration
> > >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for
> storage-class
> > memory
> > >  technology-oriented projects.
> > > 
> > >  Best.
> > >  Gary.

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Swapnil Bawaskar]

I would be happy to represent Apache Geode.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) 
wrote:

> BTW should we name this group “Apache Durable Computing Initiative”?
>
> debo
>
> On 10/24/17, 11:18 AM, "Debo Dutta (dedutta)"  wrote:
>
> Yes, the moment we have the workgroup mailer setup, will send out a
> DISCUSS thread.
>
> debo
>
> On 10/24/17, 10:14 AM, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:
>
> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application,
> please go
> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
> wrote:
>
> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards
> common
> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> >
> > Debo
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > >
> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > >   - Integrating one another
> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Add ORC
> > >>
> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > >>
> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory
> oriented
> > *Distributed
> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed
> Data Store,
> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing
> Model* for
> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> querying,
> > >> processing, and analytics.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> > >>>
> > >>> .. Owen
> > >>>
> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> ga...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  Hi all,
> > 
> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge
> potential
> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> analytics
> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> > non-volatile
> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
> fundamentally
> > >>> change
> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar
> to what
> > >>> happened
> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s.
> so if
> > >>> possible, I
> >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> > >>> collaboration
> >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class
> memory
> >  technology-oriented projects.
> > 
> >  Best.
> >  Gary.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> > 
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> org
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Debo Dutta (dedutta)]

BTW should we name this group “Apache Durable Computing Initiative”?

debo

On 10/24/17, 11:18 AM, "Debo Dutta (dedutta)"  wrote:

Yes, the moment we have the workgroup mailer setup, will send out a DISCUSS 
thread. 

debo

On 10/24/17, 10:14 AM, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:

It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go
ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  
wrote:

> Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
> benchmarks, APIs etc.
>
> Debo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  
wrote:
> >
> > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> >
> >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> >   - Identifying common opportunities
> >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> >   - Delivering solid solution
> >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> >   - Integrating one another
> >   - Coordinating the progress
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Add ORC
> >>
> >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> >>
> >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented
> *Distributed
> >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data 
Store,
> >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* 
for
> >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
> >> processing, and analytics.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley 

> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> >>>
> >>> .. Owen
> >>>
>  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and 
analytics
>  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> non-volatile
>  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will 
fundamentally
> >>> change
>  the way to construct high performance applications similar to 
what
> >>> happened
>  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> >>> possible, I
>  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> >>> collaboration
>  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class 
memory
>  technology-oriented projects.
> 
>  Best.
>  Gary.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Debo Dutta (dedutta)]

Yes, the moment we have the workgroup mailer setup, will send out a DISCUSS 
thread. 

debo

On 10/24/17, 10:14 AM, "Gang(Gary) Wang"  wrote:

It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go
ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:

> Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
> benchmarks, APIs etc.
>
> Debo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> >
> > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> >
> >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> >   - Identifying common opportunities
> >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> >   - Delivering solid solution
> >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> >   - Integrating one another
> >   - Coordinating the progress
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Add ORC
> >>
> >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> >>
> >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented
> *Distributed
> >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data 
Store,
> >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for
> >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
> >> processing, and analytics.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> >>>
> >>> .. Owen
> >>>
>  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> non-volatile
>  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> >>> change
>  the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> >>> happened
>  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> >>> possible, I
>  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> >>> collaboration
>  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>  technology-oriented projects.
> 
>  Best.
>  Gary.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Yes, I'm working on preparing necessary resources for our workgroup. the
progress is

1) Slack channel #Storage-class-memory - created
2) Invite project representatives and active contributors to this Slack
channel -  not yet but soon later
3) Request a dedicated mail list for our workgroup - request sent
4) Request typical platform equipped with storage-class memory resource -
trying but not guaranteed


On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Clebert Suconic  wrote:

> I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a
> discussion...
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah  wrote:
> > Hello Gary,
> >
> > Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am
> > guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for this)
> where
> > any interested folks could subscribe to?
> >
> > thanks
> > -- Hitesh
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >
> >> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
> >> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go
> >> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
> >> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> >> >
> >> > Debo
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> >> > >
> >> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> >> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> >> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> >> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> >> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> >> > >   - Integrating one another
> >> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Add ORC
> >> > >>
> >> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> >> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> >> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> >> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> >> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> >> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> >> > >>
> >> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented
> >> > *Distributed
> >> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data
> >> Store,
> >> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model*
> for
> >> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
> >> > >> processing, and analytics.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> >> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> .. Owen
> >> > >>>
> >> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >  Hi all,
> >> > 
> >> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> >> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and
> analytics
> >> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> >> > non-volatile
> >> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will
> fundamentally
> >> > >>> change
> >> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar to
> what
> >> > >>> happened
> >> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> >> > >>> possible, I
> >> >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> >> > >>> collaboration
> >> >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class
> memory
> >> >  technology-oriented projects.
> >> > 
> >> >  Best.
> >> >  Gary.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

I am also waiting the dev list to be created before we can have a discussion...

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Hitesh Shah  wrote:
> Hello Gary,
>
> Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am
> guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for this) where
> any interested folks could subscribe to?
>
> thanks
> -- Hitesh
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>
>> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
>> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go
>> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:
>>
>> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
>> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
>> >
>> > Debo
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
>> > >
>> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
>> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
>> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
>> > >   - Delivering solid solution
>> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
>> > >   - Integrating one another
>> > >   - Coordinating the progress
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Add ORC
>> > >>
>> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
>> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
>> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>> > >>
>> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented
>> > *Distributed
>> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data
>> Store,
>> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for
>> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
>> > >> processing, and analytics.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
>> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> .. Owen
>> > >>>
>> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >  Hi all,
>> > 
>> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
>> > non-volatile
>> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
>> > >>> change
>> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>> > >>> happened
>> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>> > >>> possible, I
>> >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>> > >>> collaboration
>> >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>> >  technology-oriented projects.
>> > 
>> >  Best.
>> >  Gary.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Hitesh Shah]

Hello Gary,

Would it be better to create a mailing list for this workgroup (I am
guessing it is too early to be thinking about a new podling for this) where
any interested folks could subscribe to?

thanks
-- Hitesh


On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

> It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
> storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go
> ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:
>
> > Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
> > benchmarks, APIs etc.
> >
> > Debo
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> > >
> > > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> > >
> > >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> > >   - Identifying common opportunities
> > >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> > >   - Delivering solid solution
> > >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> > >   - Integrating one another
> > >   - Coordinating the progress
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Add ORC
> > >>
> > >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> > >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> > >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> > >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> > >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> > >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> > >>
> > >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented
> > *Distributed
> > >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data
> Store,
> > >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for
> > >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
> > >> processing, and analytics.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley <
> owen.omal...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> > >>>
> > >>> .. Owen
> > >>>
> >  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  Hi all,
> > 
> >  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> >  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> >  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> > non-volatile
> >  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> > >>> change
> >  the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> > >>> happened
> >  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> > >>> possible, I
> >  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> > >>> collaboration
> >  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> >  technology-oriented projects.
> > 
> >  Best.
> >  Gary.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

I didn’t know I could represent a project.  In that case I’m representing
ActiveMQ.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:33 AM Von Gosling  wrote:

> I'm happy to represent Apache RocketMQ on this  storage collaboration
> effort. This is a very key in low latency messaging.
>
> Best Regards,
> Von Gosling
>
>
>
> > 在 2017年10月20日，02:55，Gang(Gary) Wang  写道：
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> change
> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> happened
> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> possible, I
> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> collaboration
> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> > technology-oriented projects.
> >
> > Best.
> > Gary.
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

It is a great idea if we could have a common benchmark and APIs for
storage-class memory oriented library/framework/application, please go
ahead to propose one for discussion in our workgroup. Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:

> Would love to help out in any way including working towards common
> benchmarks, APIs etc.
>
> Debo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> >
> > There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> >
> >   - Sharing idea and good practice
> >   - Identifying common opportunities
> >   - Promoting storage-class memory application
> >   - Delivering solid solution
> >   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
> >   - Integrating one another
> >   - Coordinating the progress
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Add ORC
> >>
> >>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
> >>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
> >>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
> >>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
> >>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
> >>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
> >>
> >> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented
> *Distributed
> >> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data Store,
> >> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for
> >> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
> >> processing, and analytics.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can represent ORC within the group.
> >>>
> >>> .. Owen
> >>>
>  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> non-volatile
>  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> >>> change
>  the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> >>> happened
>  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> >>> possible, I
>  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> >>> collaboration
>  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>  technology-oriented projects.
> 
>  Best.
>  Gary.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Add *Hive/LLAP and RocketMQ*

   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
   - *Hive/LLAP *represented by *Gopal Vijayaraghavan*
   - *RocketMQ  *represented by *Von Gosling*
   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*

With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented *Distributed
Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data Store,
Columnar Storage, **Live Long And Process, Distributed Messaging and
Streaming, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for new
generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying, processing,
and analytics.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Von Gosling  wrote:

> I'm happy to represent Apache RocketMQ on this  storage collaboration
> effort. This is a very key in low latency messaging.
>
> Best Regards,
> Von Gosling
>
>
>
> > 在 2017年10月20日，02:55，Gang(Gary) Wang  写道：
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> change
> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> happened
> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> possible, I
> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> collaboration
> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> > technology-oriented projects.
> >
> > Best.
> > Gary.
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Von Gosling]

I'm happy to represent Apache RocketMQ on this  storage collaboration effort. 
This is a very key in low latency messaging.

Best Regards,
Von Gosling



> 在 2017年10月20日，02:55，Gang(Gary) Wang  写道：
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> technology-oriented projects.
> 
> Best.
> Gary.


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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Debojyoti Dutta]

Would love to help out in any way including working towards common benchmarks, 
APIs etc. 

Debo 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> 
> There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup
> 
>   - Sharing idea and good practice
>   - Identifying common opportunities
>   - Promoting storage-class memory application
>   - Delivering solid solution
>   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
>   - Integrating one another
>   - Coordinating the progress
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>> 
>> Add ORC
>> 
>>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>>   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
>>   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
>>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>> 
>> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented 
>> *Distributed
>> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data Store,
>> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for
>> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
>> processing, and analytics.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I can represent ORC within the group.
>>> 
>>> .. Owen
>>> 
 On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
 advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
 because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
 memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
>>> change
 the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>>> happened
 when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>>> possible, I
 advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>>> collaboration
 and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
 technology-oriented projects.
 
 Best.
 Gary.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

There are suggested initial goals for our workgroup

   - Sharing idea and good practice
   - Identifying common opportunities
   - Promoting storage-class memory application
   - Delivering solid solution
   - Avoiding reinvent the wheel
   - Integrating one another
   - Coordinating the progress


On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

> Add ORC
>
>- *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>- *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>- *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>- *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
>- *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
>- *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>
> With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented *Distributed
> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data Store,
> Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for
> new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying,
> processing, and analytics.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> I can represent ORC within the group.
>>
>> .. Owen
>>
>> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
>> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
>> change
>> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>> happened
>> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>> possible, I
>> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>> collaboration
>> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>> > technology-oriented projects.
>> >
>> > Best.
>> > Gary.
>>
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Add ORC

   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
   - *ORC *represented by* Owen O'Malley*
   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*

With above projects, we could cover Storage-class memory oriented *Distributed
Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data Store,
Columnar Storage, **Durable Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for new
generation high-performance applications, e.g. data querying, processing,
and analytics.


On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Owen O'Malley 
wrote:

> I can represent ORC within the group.
>
> .. Owen
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> > advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> > because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> > memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> change
> > the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> happened
> > when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> possible, I
> > advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> collaboration
> > and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> > technology-oriented projects.
> >
> > Best.
> > Gary.
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Owen O'Malley]

I can represent ORC within the group.

.. Owen

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> technology-oriented projects.
> 
> Best.
> Gary.


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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gopal Vijayaraghavan]

> I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches
> well with the focus we have in the Crail project (www.crail.io) where
> we expose new storage technologies, including storage class memory, to
> distributed data processing frameworks over high-speed network
> fabrics. We are currently working on applying for Apache incubator
> with Crail and we're looking for additional mentors :-)

> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>> It is wonderful, as of now, we have the following projects and their
>> communities.

I'd be happy to help this effort from Apache Hive/LLAP. 

Hive/LLAP's cache has produced significant gains in NVDIMM experiments, 
integrating with a widely supported and common platform within Apache would be 
much better.

Cheers,
Gopal



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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Clebert Suconic]

+1

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Gary Wong  wrote:
> Add Crail
>
>- *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>- *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>- *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>- *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
>- *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>
> With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented *Distributed
> Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data
> Store, **Durable
> Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for new generation high-performance
> applications, e.g. data querying, processing, and analytics.
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick
>>
>> Am happy to help w Crail.
>>
>> Thx
>> Debo
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:14 AM, patrick stuedi  pstu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches
>> well with the focus we have in the Crail project (www.crail.io> crail.io>) where
>> we expose new storage technologies, including storage class memory, to
>> distributed data processing frameworks over high-speed network
>> fabrics. We are currently working on applying for Apache incubator
>> with Crail and we're looking for additional mentors :-)
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  ga...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> It is wonderful, as of now, we have the following projects and their
>> communities.
>>
>>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>>
>> With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented Database,
>> KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Durable Object Model, Durable
>> Computing Model for new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
>> querying, processing, and analytics.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Atri Sharma  atri.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Anoop John > >
>> wrote:
>> +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.
>>
>> -Anoop-
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney  wesmck...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
>> with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
>> data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.
>>
>> - Wes
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  ddu...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on
>> many of the Apache projects.
>>
>> Debo
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  ga...@apache.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
>> non-volatile
>> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
>> change
>> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>> happened
>> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>> possible, I
>> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>> collaboration
>> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>> technology-oriented projects.
>>
>> Best.
>> Gary.
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gary Wong]

Add Crail

   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
   - *Crail* represented by *Patrick Stuedi*
   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*

With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented *Distributed
Database, KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Distributed Data
Store, **Durable
Object Model, Durable Computing Model* for new generation high-performance
applications, e.g. data querying, processing, and analytics.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick
>
> Am happy to help w Crail.
>
> Thx
> Debo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:14 AM, patrick stuedi > wrote:
>
> I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches
> well with the focus we have in the Crail project (www.crail.io crail.io>) where
> we expose new storage technologies, including storage class memory, to
> distributed data processing frameworks over high-speed network
> fabrics. We are currently working on applying for Apache incubator
> with Crail and we're looking for additional mentors :-)
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang > wrote:
> It is wonderful, as of now, we have the following projects and their
> communities.
>
>   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>
> With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented Database,
> KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Durable Object Model, Durable
> Computing Model for new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> querying, processing, and analytics.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Atri Sharma > wrote:
>
> +1
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Anoop John  >
> wrote:
> +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.
>
> -Anoop-
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney >
> wrote:
> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
> with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
> data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.
>
> - Wes
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta >
> wrote:
> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on
> many of the Apache projects.
>
> Debo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang >
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> non-volatile
> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> change
> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> happened
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Debo Dutta (dedutta)]

Hi Patrick

Am happy to help w Crail.

Thx
Debo

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:14 AM, patrick stuedi 
> wrote:

I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches
well with the focus we have in the Crail project 
(www.crail.io) where
we expose new storage technologies, including storage class memory, to
distributed data processing frameworks over high-speed network
fabrics. We are currently working on applying for Apache incubator
with Crail and we're looking for additional mentors :-)

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
It is wonderful, as of now, we have the following projects and their
communities.

  - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
  - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
  - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
  - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*

With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented Database,
KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Durable Object Model, Durable
Computing Model for new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
querying, processing, and analytics.


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Atri Sharma 
> wrote:

+1

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Anoop John 
>
wrote:
+1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.

-Anoop-

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney 
>
wrote:
I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.

- Wes

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
>
wrote:
This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on
many of the Apache projects.

Debo

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
>
wrote:

Hi all,

We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
non-volatile
memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
change
the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
happened
when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
possible, I
advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
collaboration
and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
technology-oriented projects.

Best.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[patrick stuedi]

I'd be happy to be involved in the discussions as well. This matches
well with the focus we have in the Crail project (www.crail.io) where
we expose new storage technologies, including storage class memory, to
distributed data processing frameworks over high-speed network
fabrics. We are currently working on applying for Apache incubator
with Crail and we're looking for additional mentors :-)

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> It is wonderful, as of now, we have the following projects and their
> communities.
>
>- *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
>- *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
>- *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
>- *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*
>
> With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented Database,
> KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Durable Object Model, Durable
> Computing Model for new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
> querying, processing, and analytics.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Atri Sharma  wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Anoop John 
>> wrote:
>> > +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.
>> >
>> > -Anoop-
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney 
>> wrote:
>> >> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
>> >> with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
>> >> data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.
>> >>
>> >> - Wes
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
>> wrote:
>> >>> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on
>> many of the Apache projects.
>> >>>
>> >>> Debo
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>>  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi all,
>> 
>>  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>>  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>>  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
>> non-volatile
>>  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
>> change
>>  the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
>> happened
>>  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
>> possible, I
>>  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
>> collaboration
>>  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>>  technology-oriented projects.
>> 
>>  Best.
>>  Gary.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

It is wonderful, as of now, we have the following projects and their
communities.

   - *Ignite* represented by Denis Magda
   - *Arrow *represented by Wes McKinney
   - *Hbase *represented by Anoop John
   - *Mnemonic *represented by* Gary*

With above projects, we can cover Storage-class memory oriented Database,
KV Store, Columnar Structured Dataset, Durable Object Model, Durable
Computing Model for new generation high-performance applications, e.g. data
querying, processing, and analytics.


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Atri Sharma  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Anoop John 
> wrote:
> > +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.
> >
> > -Anoop-
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney 
> wrote:
> >> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
> >> with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
> >> data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.
> >>
> >> - Wes
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta 
> wrote:
> >>> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on
> many of the Apache projects.
> >>>
> >>> Debo
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang 
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>  advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>  because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity
> non-volatile
>  memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally
> change
>  the way to construct high performance applications similar to what
> happened
>  when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if
> possible, I
>  advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the
> collaboration
>  and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>  technology-oriented projects.
> 
>  Best.
>  Gary.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Atri Sharma]

+1

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Anoop John  wrote:
> +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.
>
> -Anoop-
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney  wrote:
>> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
>> with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
>> data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.
>>
>> - Wes
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:
>>> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on many 
>>> of the Apache projects.
>>>
>>> Debo
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

 Hi all,

 We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
 advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
 because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
 memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
 the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
 when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
 advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
 and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
 technology-oriented projects.

 Best.
 Gary.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Johnu]

Interested. I agree with Gary.  Great to see the collaboration effort.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Anoop John  wrote:
> +1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.
>
> -Anoop-
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney  wrote:
>> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
>> with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
>> data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.
>>
>> - Wes
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:
>>> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on many 
>>> of the Apache projects.
>>>
>>> Debo
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:

 Hi all,

 We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
 advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
 because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
 memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
 the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
 when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
 advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
 and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
 technology-oriented projects.

 Best.
 Gary.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Anoop John]

+1..Am there to represent Apache HBase.

-Anoop-

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Wes McKinney  wrote:
> I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
> with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
> data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.
>
> - Wes
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:
>> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on many of 
>> the Apache projects.
>>
>> Debo
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>>> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>>> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
>>> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
>>> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
>>> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
>>> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
>>> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>>> technology-oriented projects.
>>>
>>> Best.
>>> Gary.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Wes McKinney]

I'm happy to represent Apache Arrow on this. This is very much in line
with our focus on zero-copy / memory-mapped data access of structured
data sets and cache-efficient memory layout.

- Wes

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Debojyoti Dutta  wrote:
> This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on many of 
> the Apache projects.
>
> Debo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
>> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
>> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
>> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
>> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
>> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
>> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
>> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
>> technology-oriented projects.
>>
>> Best.
>> Gary.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Debojyoti Dutta]

This is a great idea. Storage class memory will have a big impact on many of 
the Apache projects. 

Debo 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> technology-oriented projects.
> 
> Best.
> Gary.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Denis Magda]

Hi Gary,

I’m ready to represent Apache Ignite [1] community within the group. Some of 
our community folks have already benchmarked Intel Optane (3D XP) and there are 
plans to integrate with this technology natively.

[1] https://ignite.apache.org

—
Denis


> On Oct 19, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
> advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
> because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
> memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
> the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
> when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
> advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
> and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
> technology-oriented projects.
> 
> Best.
> Gary.


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[DISCUSS] Storage-class memory ecosystem program

[Gang(Gary) Wang]

Hi all,

We can expect more and more projects will take the huge potential
advantages of storage-class memory for data processing and analytics
because silicon companies are able to produce high capacity non-volatile
memory on a large scale, this hardware technology will fundamentally change
the way to construct high performance applications similar to what happened
when replacing tape with disk technology since the 1980s. so if possible, I
advocate establishing an Apache working group to enhance the collaboration
and synergies mentioned by Patrick Stuedi for storage-class memory
technology-oriented projects.

Best.
Gary.