Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Hi, I am interested in participating in this OpenWebBeans effort. Please let me know what if anything I need to do. Thanks much -- Thanks, Tim McConnell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Hi Tim; That is great to hear, welcome :). Actually the spec is in the EDR-1 level now, and I am implementing this spec. As far as I know, the CR of the spec will be published in the near and lots of things may be change and help is really needed. The current implementation is in the sourceforge : http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/ If you have any question about the source code, I could try to answer. Thanks; GE 2008/10/20 Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am interested in participating in this OpenWebBeans effort. Please let me know what if anything I need to do. Thanks much -- Thanks, Tim McConnell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gurkan Erdogdu http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Thanks Gurkan, I'll download the EDR and the code and start reviewing. Thanks. Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi Tim; That is great to hear, welcome :). Actually the spec is in the EDR-1 level now, and I am implementing this spec. As far as I know, the CR of the spec will be published in the near and lots of things may be change and help is really needed. The current implementation is in the sourceforge : http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/ If you have any question about the source code, I could try to answer. Thanks; GE 2008/10/20 Tim McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am interested in participating in this OpenWebBeans effort. Please let me know what if anything I need to do. Thanks much -- Thanks, Tim McConnell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thanks, Tim McConnell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Hi, First of all, there are lots of places that I could propose my project, but I think that open source development with the Apache Way conveys the real Free and Professional Open Source Project with meritrocracy in action. This code could be part of the Geronimo project as its Web Beans container, or could be the top level project its own. I only know that there is only one effort to create RI, this is the JBoss RI (Pete Muir is responsible for implementing, Gavin King for creating the spec) at the web side http://seamframework.org/WebBeans. And its implementation is in the early stage. Indeed, Apache way implementation makes different from the others, because and most importantly its developed based on the Apache Way and it also creates additions to the RI with creating add-on components that are based on the other Apache projects, such as, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, JSecurity, ActiveMQ etc, possible. Morevoer, It's always good to have multiple implementations of a spec so enterprise community benefits from the different imlpementations, and they choose the best (Like MyFaces and Sun JSF imeplemtnations.) I am ready for doing lots of work to this project progresses. Moreover, I get some great response from the below individuals to help this project succesfull, - Kevan Miller : As a mentor and partly committer - Conny Lundgren : JSR-299 EG member as a committer. And also, I think the committer number is increased by the time. As I said in the beginning, I believe that open source must be transparent, and the community appreciates the heavy working to implement this spec within the Apache Foundation. Sincerely; Gurkan Erdogdu - Original Message From: J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:13:05 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I have a number of questions before I can support the proposal: Where do you expect this code / community to end up after the incubator? Will it be part of Geronimo? Part of MySpaces? It's own TLP? I can say now that if the project is to stand on its own, then there's a lot of work to do. It seems as though there are 2 or 3 other Apache licensed efforts in creating a RI for JSR-299: Gavin King's work, JBoss's work and the rumored Guice work. What makes this RI effort any different? Why should the ASF support this project instead of one of the others? I'm concerned that there's only one listed committer. Getting to at least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business for this podling. -- J Aaron Farrjadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Gurkan- have you tried to ping the Guice folks ? I wonder if they a) would be interested in joining this effort, here at Apache (Crazy Bob is an apache committer) b) prefer to work on the RI, at JBoss (Crazy Bob is EG member) c) have no steaks into the WebBeans effort -Matthias 2008/10/13 Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, First of all, there are lots of places that I could propose my project, but I think that open source development with the Apache Way conveys the real Free and Professional Open Source Project with meritrocracy in action. This code could be part of the Geronimo project as its Web Beans container, or could be the top level project its own. I only know that there is only one effort to create RI, this is the JBoss RI (Pete Muir is responsible for implementing, Gavin King for creating the spec) at the web side http://seamframework.org/WebBeans. And its implementation is in the early stage. Indeed, Apache way implementation makes different from the others, because and most importantly its developed based on the Apache Way and it also creates additions to the RI with creating add-on components that are based on the other Apache projects, such as, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, JSecurity, ActiveMQ etc, possible. Morevoer, It's always good to have multiple implementations of a spec so enterprise community benefits from the different imlpementations, and they choose the best (Like MyFaces and Sun JSF imeplemtnations.) I am ready for doing lots of work to this project progresses. Moreover, I get some great response from the below individuals to help this project succesfull, - Kevan Miller : As a mentor and partly committer - Conny Lundgren : JSR-299 EG member as a committer. And also, I think the committer number is increased by the time. As I said in the beginning, I believe that open source must be transparent, and the community appreciates the heavy working to implement this spec within the Apache Foundation. Sincerely; Gurkan Erdogdu - Original Message From: J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:13:05 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I have a number of questions before I can support the proposal: Where do you expect this code / community to end up after the incubator? Will it be part of Geronimo? Part of MySpaces? It's own TLP? I can say now that if the project is to stand on its own, then there's a lot of work to do. It seems as though there are 2 or 3 other Apache licensed efforts in creating a RI for JSR-299: Gavin King's work, JBoss's work and the rumored Guice work. What makes this RI effort any different? Why should the ASF support this project instead of one of the others? I'm concerned that there's only one listed committer. Getting to at least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business for this podling. -- J Aaron Farrjadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
2008/10/13 Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthias, I do not know the mail adress of the Crazy Bob. I dropped information into to the google-guice developer list about the OpenWebBeans proposal but I have got no response so far. I also dropped the message into the JBoss Seam framework mailing list. Pete Muir from the JBoss replied with kindly message that he said You could welcome to help into the WebBeans RI effort in the JBoss. But I said him, I think that different RI from the different foundations is great. I am subscribed on this list '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and I haven't seen a post from you there. Also I don't see that there was any other WebBeans announcement. Maybe it is worth to ask them, if they wanna join (or not). doing it here is fine, IMO. That's why I offered help in being a mentor / champion. I wonder the voting is stopped in this time or how will the process continue? Hrm, we always can revote. IMO no need to rush; Things should be cleared before continuing the *process* _M Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:26:41 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] Gurkan- have you tried to ping the Guice folks ? I wonder if they a) would be interested in joining this effort, here at Apache (Crazy Bob is an apache committer) b) prefer to work on the RI, at JBoss (Crazy Bob is EG member) c) have no steaks into the WebBeans effort -Matthias 2008/10/13 Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, First of all, there are lots of places that I could propose my project, but I think that open source development with the Apache Way conveys the real Free and Professional Open Source Project with meritrocracy in action. This code could be part of the Geronimo project as its Web Beans container, or could be the top level project its own. I only know that there is only one effort to create RI, this is the JBoss RI (Pete Muir is responsible for implementing, Gavin King for creating the spec) at the web side http://seamframework.org/WebBeans. And its implementation is in the early stage. Indeed, Apache way implementation makes different from the others, because and most importantly its developed based on the Apache Way and it also creates additions to the RI with creating add-on components that are based on the other Apache projects, such as, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, JSecurity, ActiveMQ etc, possible. Morevoer, It's always good to have multiple implementations of a spec so enterprise community benefits from the different imlpementations, and they choose the best (Like MyFaces and Sun JSF imeplemtnations.) I am ready for doing lots of work to this project progresses. Moreover, I get some great response from the below individuals to help this project succesfull, - Kevan Miller : As a mentor and partly committer - Conny Lundgren : JSR-299 EG member as a committer. And also, I think the committer number is increased by the time. As I said in the beginning, I believe that open source must be transparent, and the community appreciates the heavy working to implement this spec within the Apache Foundation. Sincerely; Gurkan Erdogdu - Original Message From: J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:13:05 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I have a number of questions before I can support the proposal: Where do you expect this code / community to end up after the incubator? Will it be part of Geronimo? Part of MySpaces? It's own TLP? I can say now that if the project is to stand on its own, then there's a lot of work to do. It seems as though there are 2 or 3 other Apache licensed efforts in creating a RI for JSR-299: Gavin King's work, JBoss's work and the rumored Guice work. What makes this RI effort any different? Why should the ASF support this project instead of one of the others? I'm concerned that there's only one listed committer. Getting to at least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business for this podling. -- J Aaron Farrjadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: I wonder the voting is stopped in this time or how will the process continue? We are not voting yet. This is just the early proposal stage. As the proposer, you will need to be familiar with the steps of the process. See docs at http://incubator.apache.org/ By the way, your mail client seems to be losing the context of which message you had replied to. This makes the threads hard to follow. See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/20027 -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
- Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:52:25 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] 2008/10/13 Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthias, I do not know the mail adress of the Crazy Bob. I dropped information into to the google-guice developer list about the OpenWebBeans proposal but I have got no response so far. I also dropped the message into the JBoss Seam framework mailing list. Pete Muir from the JBoss replied with kindly message that he said You could welcome to help into the WebBeans RI effort in the JBoss. But I said him, I think that different RI from the different foundations is great. I am subscribed on this list '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and I haven't seen a post from you there. Also I don't see that there was any other WebBeans announcement. Maybe it is worth to ask them, if they wanna join (or not). Today, I sent the mail to the Crazy Bob at adress, [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I got no response so far. A dropped message into the guice developer list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with title About WebBeans RI 3 days ago, no response. Matthias, if you wish I could sent same email again to the Bob with CC you ?. doing it here is fine, IMO. That's why I offered help in being a mentor / champion. I wonder the voting is stopped in this time or how will the process continue? Hrm, we always can revote. IMO no need to rush; Things should be cleared before continuing the *process* Ok. Just about my curious. _M Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:26:41 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] Gurkan- have you tried to ping the Guice folks ? I wonder if they a) would be interested in joining this effort, here at Apache (Crazy Bob is an apache committer) b) prefer to work on the RI, at JBoss (Crazy Bob is EG member) c) have no steaks into the WebBeans effort -Matthias 2008/10/13 Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, First of all, there are lots of places that I could propose my project, but I think that open source development with the Apache Way conveys the real Free and Professional Open Source Project with meritrocracy in action. This code could be part of the Geronimo project as its Web Beans container, or could be the top level project its own. I only know that there is only one effort to create RI, this is the JBoss RI (Pete Muir is responsible for implementing, Gavin King for creating the spec) at the web side http://seamframework.org/WebBeans. And its implementation is in the early stage. Indeed, Apache way implementation makes different from the others, because and most importantly its developed based on the Apache Way and it also creates additions to the RI with creating add-on components that are based on the other Apache projects, such as, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, JSecurity, ActiveMQ etc, possible. Morevoer, It's always good to have multiple implementations of a spec so enterprise community benefits from the different imlpementations, and they choose the best (Like MyFaces and Sun JSF imeplemtnations.) I am ready for doing lots of work to this project progresses. Moreover, I get some great response from the below individuals to help this project succesfull, - Kevan Miller : As a mentor and partly committer - Conny Lundgren : JSR-299 EG member as a committer. And also, I think the committer number is increased by the time. As I said in the beginning, I believe that open source must be transparent, and the community appreciates the heavy working to implement this spec within the Apache Foundation. Sincerely; Gurkan Erdogdu - Original Message From: J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:13:05 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I have a number of questions before I can support the proposal: Where do you expect this code / community to end up after the incubator? Will it be part of Geronimo? Part of MySpaces? It's own TLP? I can say now that if the project is to stand on its own, then there's a lot of work to do. It seems as though there are 2 or 3 other Apache licensed efforts in creating a RI for JSR-299: Gavin King's work, JBoss's work and the rumored Guice work. What makes this RI effort any different? Why should the ASF support this project instead of one of the others? I'm concerned that there's only one listed committer. Getting to at least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I have a number of questions before I can support the proposal: Where do you expect this code / community to end up after the incubator? Will it be part of Geronimo? Part of MySpaces? It's own TLP? I can say now that if the project is to stand on its own, then there's a lot of work to do. It seems as though there are 2 or 3 other Apache licensed efforts in creating a RI for JSR-299: Gavin King's work, JBoss's work and the rumored Guice work. What makes this RI effort any different? Why should the ASF support this project instead of one of the others? I'm concerned that there's only one listed committer. Getting to at least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business for this podling. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:51 AM, James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) is required to be an apache committer? Since when? that is my understanding. The NDA to get access to the TCK for instance ? I always thought you need to be a committer. At least in MyFaces we were doing that (to get access to the TCK). I am only talking here about the TCKs, no other (more general) things. -M On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? no, that is an Apache thing. You need to be committer to sign the NDA. The NDA on the other hand gives you access to TCK etc. In case of WebBeans... this shouldn't be a big deal (TCK) since it is actually Apache 2.0 licensed. When this project is accepted, you will be an Apache committer and we can work on the NDA. @Vote: You asked about the vote, why not planing to start a vote beginning of next week ? This will give some folks some more time to read the proposal etc. No need to rush, isn't it ? -M Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
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A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) is required to be an apache committer? Since when? On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? no, that is an Apache thing. You need to be committer to sign the NDA. The NDA on the other hand gives you access to TCK etc. In case of WebBeans... this shouldn't be a big deal (TCK) since it is actually Apache 2.0 licensed. When this project is accepted, you will be an Apache committer and we can work on the NDA. @Vote: You asked about the vote, why not planing to start a vote beginning of next week ? This will give some folks some more time to read the proposal etc. No need to rush, isn't it ? -M Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Matthias, Yeap, no need to rush. Who is responsible for initiating the VOTE mail? It is ok for me to start a vote begining of the next week. Thanks for clearly explaining what is NDA and what is used for. Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 11:48:42 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? no, that is an Apache thing. You need to be committer to sign the NDA. The NDA on the other hand gives you access to TCK etc. In case of WebBeans... this shouldn't be a big deal (TCK) since it is actually Apache 2.0 licensed. When this project is accepted, you will be an Apache committer and we can work on the NDA. @Vote: You asked about the vote, why not planing to start a vote beginning of next week ? This will give some folks some more time to read the proposal etc. No need to rush, isn't it ? -M Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? no, that is an Apache thing. You need to be committer to sign the NDA. The NDA on the other hand gives you access to TCK etc. In case of WebBeans... this shouldn't be a big deal (TCK) since it is actually Apache 2.0 licensed. When this project is accepted, you will be an Apache committer and we can work on the NDA. @Vote: You asked about the vote, why not planing to start a vote beginning of next week ? This will give some folks some more time to read the proposal etc. No need to rush, isn't it ? -M Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthias, Yeap, no need to rush. Who is responsible for initiating the VOTE mail? It is ok for me to start a vote begining of the next week. I'd expect it is you :-) Since you are the founder / father of OpenWebBeans :-) -M Thanks for clearly explaining what is NDA and what is used for. Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 11:48:42 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? no, that is an Apache thing. You need to be committer to sign the NDA. The NDA on the other hand gives you access to TCK etc. In case of WebBeans... this shouldn't be a big deal (TCK) since it is actually Apache 2.0 licensed. When this project is accepted, you will be an Apache committer and we can work on the NDA. @Vote: You asked about the vote, why not planing to start a vote beginning of next week ? This will give some folks some more time to read the proposal etc. No need to rush, isn't it ? -M Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 04:51 -0400, James Carman wrote: A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) is required to be an apache committer? Since when? No. The other way around. If you want to sign an NDA agreement in relation to gaining access to a TCK or something, you need to be a committer. Only committers are allowed to sign them. That is what is being said. A blanket all committers must sign an NDA would be the death of Apache, eh? Upayavira On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? no, that is an Apache thing. You need to be committer to sign the NDA. The NDA on the other hand gives you access to TCK etc. In case of WebBeans... this shouldn't be a big deal (TCK) since it is actually Apache 2.0 licensed. When this project is accepted, you will be an Apache committer and we can work on the NDA. @Vote: You asked about the vote, why not planing to start a vote beginning of next week ? This will give some folks some more time to read the proposal etc. No need to rush, isn't it ? -M Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? --kevan
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
I am part of the EG, but I can't share the draft PDFs. You need a NDA for that. -M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevan, Matthias; The project current code base is in the sourceforge -- http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. I am developing the remaining pieces of the specification continuously. About Implementation : So far, only Web Beans specification that is published is EDR-1, in this EDR-1 there is no API contract of the specification. So when I started to implement the specification, I created my own API. But now, I looked at the http://seamframework.org/WebBeans address and it defines the API contracts and some of the concerns explained in the EDR-1 are changed. I am trying to adapted my implemented API contracts with this unpublished API. I explicitly commented on these changes in the source code. I think there is no so much differences. There are two folder in the implementation, webbeans-api is the API and webbeans-impl is the implementation. All the unit test are contained in the webbeans-impl folder. Thanks; Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal] On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal I made a few minor editorial updates (spelling/grammar) and one wording change Geronimo will include == Geronimo may include. Can you point us to the current project? I couldn't find it on sourceforge. Last I recall Guice was planning on an Apache licensed WebBeans implementation. Is that still their plan? Any discussions with their project? really ? Interesting. The JBoss WebBeans RI is Apache 2.0 licensed as well (and it looks like their TCK will be as well) See here: http://seamframework.org/WebBeans -Matthias --kevan -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
Hi to all; I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans. It is in the WIKI, its address is http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal Thanks for advance; Gurkan Erdogdu - Original Message From: Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 9:07:33 PM Subject: Re: [New Incubator Project Help - WebBeans Spec Implementation] On Oct 3, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: +1 sounds pretty interesting. why not posting a proposal like: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WicketProposal to our wiki. You can count me in for being a mentor/champion, since I am a member of the ASF Cool. You can count me in as a mentor. I'd also hope that I'd have a bit of time to help out with development... I'd expect that we'd see some interest in this project from the Geronimo community -- will pass it along... --kevan
