Re: [gentoo-user] DVD Authoring Tools
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:08, Seth Zirin wrote: Does anyone know of any GUI tools for DVD authoring? Something comparable to K3b that does data and video would be perfect. Are dvdauthor and dvdrtools the only options? K3b 0.10.2cvs does data DVD and eMovix DVD but not video DVD as yet. Don't know of any GUI tool that does do video DVD though. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I adjust / limit the bandwidth used by my machine?
begin quote On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:31:53 +0800 Zarick Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is it possible to limited the bandwidth used by my machine? This requires you to go to the mighty google, and look for keywords such as : Linux, Traffic Control, Traffic Limiting, QoS, Howto This brings up : http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/linux/qos_tc/ which seems to be a nice guide. USE=tetex emerge tetex iproute look in iproute's documentation dir for a really nice whitepaper about it //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems
Thank you for replying. /dev/lp0 - printers/0 Thanks, Harlan... On Monday 17 November 2003 11:20 am, Rex Young wrote: Hello Everyone, Here is what I have tried: bash-2.05b# grep 420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/* /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml:printer id=printer/HP-DeskJet_420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml: modelDeskJet 420C/model bash-2.05b# grep HP-DeskJet_420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/* /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/cdj500.xml: idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C -- /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/hpijs.xml: idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C -- bash-2.05b# foomatic-configure -s cups -p HP-DeskJet_420C -c file:/dev/lp0 -n HP420C -d hpijs lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused Could not set up/change the queue HP420C! I have tried the device both with and without the file:, same results. Thanks, Harlan... You said in an earlier e-mail that you didn't see any devices in the printer setup in cups. does /dev/lp0 exist? try: ls /dev | grep lp -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems
Thank you for replying. I did, and still do, have the cupsd running. I do start it they way you suggest. I have even stopped it and restarted it several times. Still no joy. Thanks, Harlan... On Monday 17 November 2003 12:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:11:51AM -0600, Harlan wrote: Hello Everyone, bash-2.05b# foomatic-configure -s cups -p HP-DeskJet_420C -c file:/dev/lp0 -n HP420C -d hpijs lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused Could not set up/change the queue HP420C! I have tried the device both with and without the file:, same results. I think that, you need to start the daemon cupsd: /etc/init.d/cupsd start -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems
Thank you for your reply. I tried -L /dev/lp0 and -L file:/dev/lp0 Still no joy. Thanks, Harlan... On Monday 17 November 2003 11:24 am, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Le 11/16/03 Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment: Here is what I have tried: bash-2.05b# grep 420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/* /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml:printer id=printer/HP-DeskJet_420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml: modelDeskJet 420C/model bash-2.05b# grep HP-DeskJet_420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/* /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/cdj500.xml: idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C -- /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/hpijs.xml: idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C -- bash-2.05b# foomatic-configure -s cups -p HP-DeskJet_420C -c file:/dev/lp0 -n HP420C -d hpijs lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused Could not set up/change the queue HP420C! From the foomatic-configure FM it seems that the c option is for a remote printer (connect), and L would be the printer's address. Can you try it with L? cheers, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo internal structure
Hi, 1. Is Gentoo commercial or non-commercial organization? 2. Is there Gentoo project leader, like in Debian? How is it elected? 3. How key decisions are done? Is there voting system? 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo internal structure
08:10:47.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[78C14210:01C3ADAB] Hi, 1. Is Gentoo commercial or non-commercial organization? From memory its a private non cemmercial company. Though there are plans in the works to change this, and make it public 2. Is there Gentoo project leader, like in Debian? How is it elected? Umm because its Private I don't think he's been elected.. 3. How key decisions are done? Is there voting system? Not sure 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Not sure.. Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X11 crashing when switching to terminal or shutdown
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:05:28 -0500 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try disabling framebuffer if you're using it. Or switch to vesa if you're using riva. I'm not using framebuffer ... nor am I useing riva .. I'm using the nvidia drivers fromt he website Henti -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] strange boot message Xargs: environment is too large for exec
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 18:02, Andreas Schmitzer wrote: hello, recently i installed gentoo 1.4 for ahtlon-xp. while booting the message appears : cleaning /var/lock, /var/run, Xargs: environment ist too large for exec try upgrade the findutils what does it mean and how do i solve it? it doesnt seem to be a serious problem, because its possible to work. swap has 256 MB and physical ram is 256 MB too, /var has 7 GB. because i still dont have a working network or connection to the internet, i made my install with the 2 GPR install cds. thanks in advance. greetings andreas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X11 crashing when switching to terminal or shutdown
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 07:40, Henti Smith wrote: I've had some problems with X11 before related to crashing when starting up on a gf2 card in another machine. This machine has a ti4800 which so far has been running fine. I however updated X11 to xfree-4.3.0-r3 and still starts up fine, but when I try to change back to terminal using alt- combination or shutdown the X server I geta hard crash similar to the AGP problem on the other machine. I've checked that I have the latest nvidia drivers ( I do ) and according to portage I have the latest xfree. I've played with agp settings and even disabled it completely, still no change. anybody have a similar problem and can possibly shed some light on a solution ? I find that I can't use the console - or specifically I can't see it. But X remains fine; that is I can switch back to it and continue using it. Consoles are always blank after starting X, though. Drivers before 4363 (I think) didn't and still don't have that problem. If X is actually crashing, or you want to be able to see the console after switching into X, perhaps try an earlier driver? Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X11 crashing when switching to terminal or shutdown
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:42:42 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that I can't use the console - or specifically I can't see it. But X remains fine; that is I can switch back to it and continue using it. Consoles are always blank after starting X, though. Drivers before 4363 (I think) didn't and still don't have that problem. If X is actually crashing, or you want to be able to see the console after switching into X, perhaps try an earlier driver? I'll give that a try. Thanks Henti -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I adjust / limit the bandwidth used by my machine?
Thanks a lot! :D Going to read it now! On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:53, Greg Donald wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Zarick Lau wrote: Is it possible to limited the bandwidth used by my machine? Linux Advanced Routing Traffic Control HOWTO: http://lartc.org/howto/index.html -- Paulo J. Matos : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instituto Superior Tecnico - Lisbon Computer and Software Eng. - A.I. - http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~pocm --- - God had a deadline... So, he wrote it all in Lisp! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Different CPU priorities for processes - HOWTO?
Hi, A really nice feature I enjoyed using in my old HP3000 was having different CPU queues that had different CPU priorities. During configuration, you could define which processes (users, housecleaning, database, etc.) go into which queue. Critical apps got higher priority, users got medium priority and night batch runs got low priority. Is this type feature available in Linux? Cheers! Chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Security updates
Hi, I installed Gentoo from a GRP CD and do not want emerge to update gnome, KDE, especially, I don't want them to be compiled (until I really want to use my laptop for sunday afternoon barbecue!) I asked myself if it was possible to emerge only security updates ? Does emerge -u system compiles all the security updates ? Or does emerge -u world also compiles some ? Or is there some kind of emerge -u security. I don't think so, but there is maybe a workaround... Fabien -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse wheel problems
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0500 Joel Konkle-Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Logitech Cordless Navigator Duo set (keyboard mouse on one USB), which includes a wheel mouse. When I try using the wheel though, nothing happens. I've tried it in several different apps, too, and nothing. I have a logitech keyboard with a mousewheel on it, which is detected and used _instead_ of the mousewheel on the mouse. Maybe it's the same for you ? -- Dennis Freise [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key fingerprint: 2DE8 CCEF 6E20 11D4 3B27 21EC B0BA 1749 D2C8 38ED Get my public key at : http://www.final-frontier.ath.cx/gpg_public_key.txt pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fb in 2.6.0-test9
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:15:49 +0800 Zarick Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have just played around with the 2.6.0-test9-gentoo, with the new bootsplash patch for 2.6 however, I got a problem, while most other driver for my box seems ok, I found that I can't use the fb (nothing under /dev/fb/, and no fb in dmesg). # CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set This must be set too. -- Dennis Freise [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key fingerprint: 2DE8 CCEF 6E20 11D4 3B27 21EC B0BA 1749 D2C8 38ED Get my public key at : http://www.final-frontier.ath.cx/gpg_public_key.txt pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Security updates
Fabien Fivaz wrote: Hi, I installed Gentoo from a GRP CD and do not want emerge to update gnome, KDE, especially, I don't want them to be compiled (until I really want to use my laptop for sunday afternoon barbecue!) I asked myself if it was possible to emerge only security updates ? Does emerge -u system compiles all the security updates ? Or does emerge -u world also compiles some ? Or is there some kind of emerge -u security. I don't think so, but there is maybe a workaround... emerge security is a feature a lot of us would like to see, and I think something along those lines is in the works. For now, your best bet is to sign up to the gentoo-announce mailing list, where GLSA (Gentoo Linux Security Announcements), are posted, and read/follow instructions when they arrive. MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 2.6 and Touchpad
sorry it took so long, this will hopefully help you! ection Module Loadextmod Loadglx Loadsynaptics Loaddbe Loadrecord Loadxtrap Loadspeedo Loadfreetype Loadtype1 Loaddri EndSection notice the load synaptics, here is one i found on net, worked, but with other settings: #Section InputDevice # Identifier Mouse0 # Driver synaptics # Option CorePointer # Option Protocol auto-dev # Option Device /dev/misc/psaux # Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # Option Edges 1900 5400 1800 3900 # Option Finger20 40 # Option MaxTapTime20 # Option MaxTapMove220 # Option VertScrollDelta 100 # Option MinSpeed 0.01 # Option MaxSpeed 0.18 # Option AccelFactor 0.0005 # Option Repeater /dev/misc/psaux # Option SHMConfig on #EndSection one i made myself, which has the nice features ;D Section InputDevice Driver synaptics Identifier Mouse0 Option Device /dev/input/event0 Option Protocol event Option LeftEdge 1900 Option RightEdge5400 Option BottomEdge 1800 Option TopEdge 3900 Option FingerLow25 Option FingerHigh 30 Option MaxTapTime 180 Option MaxTapMove 220 Option VertScrollDelta 100 Option MinSpeed 0.02 Option MaxSpeed 0.18 Option AccelFactor 0.0010 #Option Repeater /dev/ps2mouse #Option SHMConfigon EndSection hope it will help you On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 08:00, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Yes, but I forgot to configure MaxTapTime. Hm, that didn't fix it either. My XFree installation does not like the auto-dev protocol, it seems. -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Different CPU priorities for processes - HOWTO?
Is this type feature available in Linux? thinking of something like the nice command: nice -+19 command, to set lowest priority, and nice -0 for highest priority. -- Sigurd Stordal master in Petrology/mineralogy President of GOGS Opuscreator VS in DNM95 Thanks. I was not aware of nice. I'm reading the info pages now. Cheers! Chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel
Hi all folks, I am running kernel (/usr/src/linux/Makefile) VERSION = 2 PATCHLEVEL = 4 SUBLEVEL = 20 EXTRAVERSION = -gentoo-r7 and prepared upgrading it to r8 Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel from Gentoo website to retain old kernel. So there will be 2 kernels at boot for selection. I use Grub. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Speaker problems?
Does your system have a mixer for the sound - if not merge one and see if it lets you unmute the headphones. On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:32:41 -0500 Joel Konkle-Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Gaffney wrote: Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: Ernie Schroder wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 04:18 pm, Joel Konkle-Parker Well yeah, thanks for that advice :-). The question what how do I unmute it? The laptop's Fn Mute key controls everything, not just the headphone jack, and I'm getting sound out of the built-in speakers, so that's not the problem. -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] Phone [+1 662-518-1636] E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
On November 17, 2003 21:57, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 16:10, Marianne Taylor wrote: My system ie hwclock is set to the local time. But each time I reboot my system clock is set to 8 hrs before my hwclock. Somewhere my system seems to be correcting for Greenwich time, but I can't figure out where. In rc.conf I have the clock set to local time. Where else can I look for this problem. I don't want to keep correcting this. Any chance it's a dual-boot w/ Windows? Windows doesn't treat time correctly. Yes it is, but I am pretty sure until the last month that this system was keeping the correct time. Perhaps it dates back to the last time I did an update of the baselayout? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel
Emerge the kernel you want, link /usr/src/linux to the new directory and then build it. Move the new bzImage to /boot with a new name of course. Modify grub, boot. On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:41:38 +0800 Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all folks, I am running kernel (/usr/src/linux/Makefile) VERSION = 2 PATCHLEVEL = 4 SUBLEVEL = 20 EXTRAVERSION = -gentoo-r7 and prepared upgrading it to r8 Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel from Gentoo website to retain old kernel. So there will be 2 kernels at boot for selection. I use Grub. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
I've no idea what Windows doesn't treat time correctly means. I've been dual booting for years and only have problems when I do something dumb on the UNIX side (like not setting the /etc/localtime link) or sometimes under OpenBSD but I forget what the problem there is/was. Ric On 2003.11.17 23:57, Marianne Taylor wrote: On November 17, 2003 21:57, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 16:10, Marianne Taylor wrote: My system ie hwclock is set to the local time. But each time I reboot my system clock is set to 8 hrs before my hwclock. Somewhere my system seems to be correcting for Greenwich time, but I can't figure out where. In rc.conf I have the clock set to local time. Where else can I look for this problem. I don't want to keep correcting this. Any chance it's a dual-boot w/ Windows? Windows doesn't treat time correctly. Yes it is, but I am pretty sure until the last month that this system was keeping the correct time. Perhaps it dates back to the last time I did an update of the baselayout? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel
Le Mardi 18 Novembre 2003 13:41, Stephen Liu a écrit : Hi all folks, I am running kernel (/usr/src/linux/Makefile) VERSION = 2 PATCHLEVEL = 4 SUBLEVEL = 20 EXTRAVERSION = -gentoo-r7 and prepared upgrading it to r8 Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel from Gentoo website to retain old kernel. So there will be 2 kernels at boot for selection. I use Grub. 1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build: # emerge gentoo-sources # cd /usr/src # rm -f linux # ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux # cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux # cd linux # make oldconfig ... answer questions if any ... # make clean dep # make bzImage modules # make modules_install # cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver # cd /lib/modules # touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound (should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to backup them) # emerge alsa-driver 3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel # cd /lib/modules # touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o (should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be better to # emerge nvidia-kernel 4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed. hth -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] interesting article: optimizing GCC
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:44, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 09:57, Chris Graves wrote: interesting article about selecting gcc optimizations (found on OSNews.com). http://www.coyotegulch.com/acovea/index.html Quite a good article! Shame it doesn't apply to us. I can't remember where I read it, but the gcc crew were talking about doing an overhaul (or at least an investigation) into -O1 -O2 and -O3. As previous informal benchmarks done by Gentooists show, with the current GCC compilers (including 3.3) -O2 can often produce faster code than -O3. This is meant to have been addressed in 3.4. And this applys to Gentoo expecially, because the whole system is compiled with those flags. In the tests the only ones that was compiled with the said flags were only the test applications. To make real optimizations one should first compile glibc with those different optimizations and then for these glibc versions the applications with different optimizations. Which makes it even more complex problem. Oh and by the way the testing was done in steril system. How does the comilation of those unrollinbg affect on desktop systems where there are multiple programs running? So cache trashing comes even easier and thus slows down every process... So now we need multiple hard disks, which every one has the exact same Gentoo system, but compiled with different optimizations. Then simply make the system boot so that the system is ran from our 2GB of memory so that different HD speeds doesn't affect the tests. :) On the other hand, the code for his tester can be downloaded and then modified only cover gcc33/32 optimizations. Anybody know of a few noninteractive benchmark programs that could be tested with? I'm happy to run some tests and publish results for AthlonXP using gcc33. The most distracting point in his teest was the fact that all tests were running in isolated environment ie no other running processes. This lets the whole 11k instruction cache of P4 for the one process, so that the penalty of unrolling and inlining raises quite a bit from normal desktop systems. I thus think that usefull tests can only be made in an environment resembling the real use situation. So the test made would suit for compile or rendering farms, but not for desktop environment. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] PCSC smartcard reader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, Does anyone have any experience with getting a Reflex 72 v2 serial smart card reader working, whether it be in Gentoo or not? (but preferably with gentoo, obviously :P) I need to use it to hold an ssh key for public key authentication to some of our servers. I have one here, and to be honest, I have no idea if it's working or not, or if it's me just not using it correctly, or using the right tools. There doesn't appear to be any useful documentation what so ever. Cheers - -- Mike Williams -- smartcard n00b -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ui3kInuLMrk7bIwRAgTGAJ4hdhel8BZQ91/RrvQl7u2H1RsPxQCcDUk5 Y5suaBcPTqSinluGsKbcZKs= =2Lsq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
-Original Message- From: Marianne Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock My system ie hwclock is set to the local time. But each time I reboot my system clock is set to 8 hrs before my hwclock. Somewhere my system seems to be correcting for Greenwich time, but I can't figure out where. In rc.conf I have the clock set to local time. Where else can I look for this problem. I don't want to keep correcting this. Marianne, I'm set up with UTC in /etc/rc.conf, have the right link to my time zone, and then run ntpd using UCLA as a clock. It works great. Consider running the ntpd daemon to keep the time very accurate. Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo user -- Questions
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 20:51, Luke Scharf wrote: 3. How does the hotplugger know to start /etc/init.d/net.eth1 when I insert my PCMCIA wireless card? I didn't set up any sort of relation between eth1 and the orinoco module, nor do I know where this might be set up by default. Have you emerge'd sys-apps/pcmcia-cs..? I haven't really used PCMCIA, tho' so hopefully someone else can help more. Yes -- my wireless card works, it's just that I'm not sure I have it set up in a way that other people would understand. I have to go through some strange dance with eth0 to bring it up, though. I think I solved this kind of problem using the /etc/modules.conf file on my Debian Stable systems, but a lot of things are different on Gentoo, so I figured I'm trying to find the normal way to do it. I could rewrite all of the scripts and make it work, but in my experience doing that just makes work for myself in the long run. :-) By appending the following lines to my /etc/modules.d/alias file, I managed to consistently make eth0 my wired card and eth1 my WLAN card: # Network alias eth0 eepro100 alias eth1 orinoco_cs All is well, and things work the way I want them to now. I emerged a package called net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng that may allow to me to remove the calls to iwconfig from my /etc/init.d/net.eth1 file. -Luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo user -- Questions
Installing the 2.4.22 kernel (gentoo-test-sources) made all of my acpi problems go away -- and all of my system resource usage issues (real or perceived) go away too. :-) How long does it usually take for a package like gentoo-test-sources to be approved for the stable system? Thanks, -Luke On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 18:06, Luke Scharf wrote: Thanks - I'll give that a try, since the stock kernel seems to like to suck up a lot of CPU cycles at odd times. It's probably related to the ACPI hack that I used... I really like this system, though -- all of the advantages of Debian, except that I get access to free-as-in-beer software and I get up to date packages without having to go to unstable. :-) -Luke On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 21:45, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Go into /usr/portage/sys-kernel and in some of the directories you will find 2.6 kernel ebuilds. This directory contains subdirectories for all the kernels available. However, only some kernels have 2.6 versions. Peruse the subdirectories in sys-kernel and pick one you like. You'll have to use the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge ./ebuildname technique while you are in the subdirectory for the kernel. On Sunday 16 November 2003 21:28, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 21:08, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 20:51, you wrote: So far, it's a really good -- especially for something that appears at first glance to be bleeding edge. One of the reasons I'm running it on my personal machine is to find out how often the packages get broken. That way, I can decide if it makes sense to run it at work. If you do not use ~arch (i.e. ~x86) routinely you'll be installing stable packages. If you use ~arch for everything you're experimenting G. I do NOT have ~x86 in my /etc/make.conf but when I want to merge a package that is masked I do ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge packagename Cool. I prefer to stay with stable stuff by default. :-) So, if I wanted to experiment with the 2.5 or 2.6 kernel, what package would I emerge? I just checked and emerge -s gentoo-sources and it appears to only have the 2.4.20-r8 under that name. Thanks! -Luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo internal structure
-- quoting Sergey V. Spiridonov -- Hi, 1. Is Gentoo commercial or non-commercial organization? 2. Is there Gentoo project leader, like in Debian? How is it elected? 3. How key decisions are done? Is there voting system? 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Since I don't want to tell you nonsense here, I would suggest you ask these questions on the gentoo-dev mailinglist. Greetings, Matthias -- Hey, what's the big deal about going to some building every Sunday? I mean, isn't God everywhere? -- Homer Simpson Homer the Heretic -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo SLOW with Seti@home
Finallyrunning TOP occurred to me and when I did, I saw a root session running nanoand i could not recall having logged in as root and run nano any time in the past few days. But I can't rule it out as I almost certainly would have adjusted the host name of the local portage mirror when the operator changed it. But when cycled through the various terminals, I was not connected to any login session.whatever it was, was running in the background. Well, you got a serious problem then. I cant think of any reason nano should be running unless YOU, or scary yet, a hacker is running it.. my suggestion is to run ps -ef or the like, and figure out where that nano is coming from.. If you can't figure it out, then give us the output and let us help you figure it out.. My thought is, you ran nano as some point and logged out and that's just a run away process.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] proxy
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:37:48 -0800, Redeeman muttered: i am need of a a proxy server, because my brother is on the lan, and he wants to make daemons, and i have all the ports :D i dont know anything about it, and i dont have much time, so i am in need of a secure and easy proxy server, i have heard about squid, not much, and i see that almost any programs support socks proxy (i dont know what it is). can anyone recommend a small easy and secure proxy that is socks compatible and that supports accounts made, without making system accoutnts for any user (like with proftpd)? thanks!! Well, I'm not sure exactly how squid would help you (it's just a web proxy: all it'll do is mirror HTTP requests), and a SOCKS proxy is just a similar thing for generalized *outgoing* connections. What you probably want to look into is port forwarding with iptables or ssh -- this'll make a port on the gateway machine forward connections to another machine behind the firewall. -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:02, Ric Messier wrote: I've no idea what Windows doesn't treat time correctly means. I've been dual booting for years and only have problems when I do something dumb on the UNIX side (like not setting the /etc/localtime link) or sometimes under OpenBSD but I forget what the problem there is/was. Ric It means that in my experience, if you don't have time set to UTC in Linux, every time you boot Windows it will mess your time up. I believe this may be because Windows leaves the hardware clock as UTC and sets its clock as an offset of that, while Linux sets the hardware clock as local time if it's set to do so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] dual-head
I've finally figured out a use for my 2 video cards and monitors. I have a nice 17 attached to an AGP ATI Rage 128 (I say this like I should be proud of it) and a circa 1994 CTX 15 monitor hooked to a generic SiS card. What I want to do is run the console from my small monitor with a 800x600 fb and run X on the big monitor. This should be as simple as making sure my BIOS sees my PCI card first and making sure X knows that its looking for the AGP ATI card, correct? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] strange boot message Xargs: environment is too large for exec
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:16:57PM +0800, Zarick Lau wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 18:02, Andreas Schmitzer wrote: hello, recently i installed gentoo 1.4 for ahtlon-xp. while booting the message appears : cleaning /var/lock, /var/run, Xargs: environment ist too large for exec try upgrade the findutils what does it mean and how do i solve it? it doesn´t seem to be a serious problem, because it´s possible to work. swap has 256 MB and physical ram is 256 MB too, /var has 7 GB. because i still don´t have a working network or connection to the internet, i made my install with the 2 GPR install cd´s. thanks in advance. Did you get this one fixed? The error messages leads me to believe you have an(some) environment variable(s) defined with large string values. Andreas might know that the findutils startup script was defining such a variable and it has since been fixed. But if it is not the findutils startup script that defines the large environment variable(s), then some config files for your root user must be doing it. If root's shell is still /bin/bash (the default), try renaming any of the following that exist to temporary names, so they don't get used: /root/.bashrc /root/.bash_profile /root/.login /root/.profile If that fixes it, you could play with putting some of them back and then just portions of the files back until you find the problem. And you may want to do so, because that error is likely to crop up in other places - wherever a system script uses xargs, which I believe is a common occurrence. - richard -- Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage Error
Why am I getting this error in portage when I emerge packaged. I got this while emerging mplayer. - dennis Auto-cleaning packages ... !!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
..or you could use X on both. With a maximized terminal in the smaller one. Probably a simpler setup. :-/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/03 8:52 AM I've finally figured out a use for my 2 video cards and monitors. I have a nice 17 attached to an AGP ATI Rage 128 (I say this like I should be proud of it) and a circa 1994 CTX 15 monitor hooked to a generic SiS card. What I want to do is run the console from my small monitor with a 800x600 fb and run X on the big monitor. This should be as simple as making sure my BIOS sees my PCI card first and making sure X knows that its looking for the AGP ATI card, correct? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] proxy
hehe ok On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:44, Andrew Farmer wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:37:48 -0800, Redeeman muttered: i am need of a a proxy server, because my brother is on the lan, and he wants to make daemons, and i have all the ports :D i dont know anything about it, and i dont have much time, so i am in need of a secure and easy proxy server, i have heard about squid, not much, and i see that almost any programs support socks proxy (i dont know what it is). can anyone recommend a small easy and secure proxy that is socks compatible and that supports accounts made, without making system accoutnts for any user (like with proftpd)? thanks!! Well, I'm not sure exactly how squid would help you (it's just a web proxy: all it'll do is mirror HTTP requests), and a SOCKS proxy is just a similar thing for generalized *outgoing* connections. What you probably want to look into is port forwarding with iptables or ssh -- this'll make a port on the gateway machine forward connections to another machine behind the firewall. -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
Larry Meadors wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/03 8:52 AM I've finally figured out a use for my 2 video cards and monitors. I have a nice 17 attached to an AGP ATI Rage 128 (I say this like I should be proud of it) and a circa 1994 CTX 15 monitor hooked to a generic SiS card. What I want to do is run the console from my small monitor with a 800x600 fb and run X on the big monitor. This should be as simple as making sure my BIOS sees my PCI card first and making sure X knows that its looking for the AGP ATI card, correct? ..or you could use X on both. With a maximized terminal in the smaller one. Probably a simpler setup. :-/ I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason for me to kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because there are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor and be getting my work done on the smaller done. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason for me to kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because there are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor and be getting my work done on the smaller done. As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one instance of x, with a wider screen. Jeff. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
Larry Meadors wrote: ..or you could use X on both. With a maximized terminal in the smaller one. Probably a simpler setup. :-/ The problem with that is that AFAIK, X can handle different resolutions but not different colordepths. I learned that when I wanted to put an old vga card next to a TNT2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Frontpage support for Apache
I haven't seen any support for Frontpage and Apache on Gentoo--is there none? The only packages I've found are external and require patching Apache to work. If this is the case, is there a good/better/best way to integrate patches into the Portage system so it can be managed as part of it? (I'm new to Gentoo so I don't yet have experience with ebuilds and such--I'm simply looking for a way to patch Apache, maybe even manually, and be able to manage it with Portage and its tools: emerge, qpkg, etc.) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Tk for Python
Hi, I'm looking for the Tkinter lib for Python. So far my 'emerge search's have not born any fruit. Does anyone know what ebuild this lib is in. Is it even in an ebuild? Yes I have done an 'emerge sync' within the last 24 hours. Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Tk for Python
http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=Tkinter Most things python, are in dev-python.. Hi, I'm looking for the Tkinter lib for Python. So far my 'emerge search's have not born any fruit. Does anyone know what ebuild this lib is in. Is it even in an ebuild? Yes I have done an 'emerge sync' within the last 24 hours. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Tk for Python
Opps. my mistake.. I should have read it better.. There isn't one.. :) Let me crawl back in my hole.. http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=Tkinter Most things python, are in dev-python.. Hi, I'm looking for the Tkinter lib for Python. So far my 'emerge search's have not born any fruit. Does anyone know what ebuild this lib is in. Is it even in an ebuild? Yes I have done an 'emerge sync' within the last 24 hours. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo user -- Questions
You could go with gs-sources as it's based on an even *newer* kernel, 2.4.23_pre8 or pre9. I switched to that and my attempts at getting USB mouse, keyboard, and digital camera went away (not without add'l work, mind you ... that add'l work *may* have worked with an older kernel too). Hall At 10:06 AM 11/18/2003, you wrote: Installing the 2.4.22 kernel (gentoo-test-sources) made all of my acpi problems go away -- and all of my system resource usage issues (real or perceived) go away too. :-) How long does it usually take for a package like gentoo-test-sources to be approved for the stable system? Thanks, -Luke On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 18:06, Luke Scharf wrote: Thanks - I'll give that a try, since the stock kernel seems to like to suck up a lot of CPU cycles at odd times. It's probably related to the ACPI hack that I used... I really like this system, though -- all of the advantages of Debian, except that I get access to free-as-in-beer software and I get up to date packages without having to go to unstable. :-) -Luke On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 21:45, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Go into /usr/portage/sys-kernel and in some of the directories you will find 2.6 kernel ebuilds. This directory contains subdirectories for all the kernels available. However, only some kernels have 2.6 versions. Peruse the subdirectories in sys-kernel and pick one you like. You'll have to use the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge ./ebuildname technique while you are in the subdirectory for the kernel. On Sunday 16 November 2003 21:28, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 21:08, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 20:51, you wrote: So far, it's a really good -- especially for something that appears at first glance to be bleeding edge. One of the reasons I'm running it on my personal machine is to find out how often the packages get broken. That way, I can decide if it makes sense to run it at work. If you do not use ~arch (i.e. ~x86) routinely you'll be installing stable packages. If you use ~arch for everything you're experimenting G. I do NOT have ~x86 in my /etc/make.conf but when I want to merge a package that is masked I do ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge packagename Cool. I prefer to stay with stable stuff by default. :-) So, if I wanted to experiment with the 2.5 or 2.6 kernel, what package would I emerge? I just checked and emerge -s gentoo-sources and it appears to only have the 2.4.20-r8 under that name. Thanks! -Luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
Andrew Gaffney wrote: I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason for me to kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because there are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor and be getting my work done on the smaller done. Is there something special I need to do in order to make this work? I have the console running on the small monitor and X running on the large, but each monitor blanks when I switch to the other. How can I prevent this? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel
Hi mathieu, Thanks for your detail advice. I have following points expected to be advised. - snip - Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel from Gentoo website to retain old kernel. So there will be 2 kernels at boot for selection. I use Grub. 1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build: # emerge gentoo-sources # cd /usr/src # rm -f linux # ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux # cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux Is it .config a hidden file under linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/ # cd linux # make oldconfig ... answer questions if any ... # make clean dep # make bzImage modules # make modules_install # cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 I suppose arch/i386/boot/bzImage will be created after make modules_install 2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver # cd /lib/modules # touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound (should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to backup them) # emerge alsa-driver I have not installed alsa-driver yet. Gentoo 1.4 is without sound. At time of installing Gentoo1.4 I installed emerge emu10k1 because the box has a Creative Sound Blaster Live sound card. The installation was interrupted unexpectedly. I posted for assistance on this List and I was advised that I should install alsa-driver. Therefore I just left it there incomplete. Now at boot the OS can't detect the sound module I tried to find the bootlog to show it here but could not find it under /var/log/ 3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel # cd /lib/modules # touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o (should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be better to # emerge nvidia-kernel What is nvidia-kernel? 4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed. What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel) root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
On 2003.11.18 10:51, Donnie Berkholz wrote: It means that in my experience, if you don't have time set to UTC in Linux, every time you boot Windows it will mess your time up. I've never set my time to UTC under linux and Windows never messes my time up. Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows XP have all been perfect for dual booting. I don't think Windows makes such an assumption about the hardware clock. Certainly hasn't been my experience and would be a bit out of the ordinary for them. They may well assume that the hardware clock is set to Pacific time, though. :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel
At 12:07 PM 11/18/2003, you wrote: # make clean dep # make bzImage modules # make modules_install # cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 I suppose arch/i386/boot/bzImage will be created after make modules_install No, make bzImage actually creates that file. The instructions have seemingly always been written this way and they've stuck. It's not really important either way. 3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel # cd /lib/modules # touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o (should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be better to # emerge nvidia-kernel What is nvidia-kernel? Do you use an nVidia video card ?? If not, disregard that step. If you do, here's a very brief description: http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-kernel-1.0.4496-r4. You may also want nvidia-glx too. Read about it here, http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-glx-1.0.4496-r1. They simply provide optimized performance of your video card under X-Windows. Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse wheel problems
Dennis Freise wrote: I have a logitech keyboard with a mousewheel on it, which is detected and used _instead_ of the mousewheel on the mouse. Maybe it's the same for you ? That is because the wheel onthe Logitech keyboard is detected first and becomes /dev/input/mouse0 and your mouse (wich is dectected after the keyboard) becomes /dev/input/mouse1. If you were to edit XF86Config and change the line /dev/input/mouse (or mice) to /dev/input/mouse1 it will probably fix things... I'm using Logitech iTouch on all four computers here with Logitech optical-wheel mice. It took some reading to figure out that the keyboard_before_mouse dected was messing things up here... -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Tk for Python
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:49, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Opps. my mistake.. I should have read it better.. There isn't one.. :) Let me crawl back in my hole.. http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=Tkinter Most things python, are in dev-python.. Thanks Jeffery. You've managed to get further than I had. Wasn't aware of the web interface. I shall use it in the future. Odd that there is no ebuild for Tkinter. As far as I am aware it is practially considered core to Python. Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:08:51PM -0500, Ric Messier wrote: On 2003.11.18 10:51, Donnie Berkholz wrote: It means that in my experience, if you don't have time set to UTC in Linux, every time you boot Windows it will mess your time up. I've never set my time to UTC under linux and Windows never messes my time up. Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows XP have all been perfect for dual booting. I don't think Windows makes such an assumption about the hardware clock. Certainly hasn't been my experience and would be a bit out of the ordinary for them. They may well assume that the hardware clock is set to Pacific time, though. :-) Actually, Windows assumes the hw clock to be set to local time, so if you set Linux to UTC, then Linux will mess your time. I had this happen some time ago, and instructing Linux that the hw clock is in local time solved the issue. Cheers, -- Javier Gostling D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tk for Python
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 November 2003 17:20, David Gethings wrote: Odd that there is no ebuild for Tkinter. As far as I am aware it is practially considered core to Python. I think you need to set the tcltk USE variable for it to be built along with python USE=tcltk emerge python - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uldPInuLMrk7bIwRAgkwAJ9jhSCHIx2VLAE+276JZnn7K/zC6QCfYT37 aAeA6zWcxwZO8KoaE8ys6mM= =jqYK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RES: [gentoo-user] Portage Error
try #emerge rsync and try again merge mplayer banza | -Mensagem original- | De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Enviada em: terca-feira, 18 de novembro de 2003 14:08 | Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Assunto: [gentoo-user] Portage Error | | | Why am I getting this error in portage when I emerge packaged. I | got this | while emerging mplayer. | | - dennis | | | Auto-cleaning packages ... | !!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: | /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd | | | | -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tk for Python
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 17:30, Mike Williams wrote: I think you need to set the tcltk USE variable for it to be built along with python USE=tcltk emerge python I'll check that when I get home. Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Javier Gostling wrote: Actually, Windows assumes the hw clock to be set to local time, so if you set Linux to UTC, then Linux will mess your time. I had this happen some time ago, and instructing Linux that the hw clock is in local time solved the issue. I've never really understood why it is that Microsoft does not allow a UTC hardware clock. Because of daylight savings time, having the hardware clock set to localtime causes the actual hardware clock to be reset twice a year. This can result in flakiness with any process that happened to be waiting for a time to occur at that instant. My solution, which isn't particularly good, is to run any dual boot machines in UTC and tell windows that my timezone is Greenwich Mean Time, and set it to not adjust the clock for daylight savings. I would rather have to deal with times in GMT than have random intermittent flakiness. -- Craig West Ph: (416) 666-1645 | It's not a bug, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It's a feature... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 802.11b that works ... MSoft mn510 usb works
I tried current netgear and d-link pcmcia 802.11b w/o success. They've both moved to non-prism chipsets. I didn't try to download and compile proprietary d-link, did try w/o success netgear's (realtek). The Microsoft MN510 usb 802.11b adapter is prism based and worked w/o too much fuss using linux-wlan-ng (read the README). I'm running 2.4.22 ac kernel because there were problems w/ some of the earlier kernels and I didn't want to dig through the patchsets applied against gentoo-sources 2.4.20 to see if the USB fix was in that kernel. This is an FYI. Not a question. Someday I'll figure out how to have the correct script be run whenever I attach it to the USB port, but no big deal. Heitzso -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] XFree loading incorrect driver
Hi all, I've upgraded my kernel from gentoo-sources 2.4.20-r5 to r8, used genkernel (which is great), hotplug, etc. However I lost DRI. Now direct rendering is off and I can't get it back on. I have radeon module from xfree-drm loaded but it's not being used becase Xfree (using the latest) is loading the radeon module that comes with xfree with it seems that it doesn't make DRI available. How can I specify in xfconfig what's the driver I wish to load? (Can I include a path?) Best regards, -- Paulo J. Matos : pocm [_at_] mega . ist . utl . pt Instituto Superior Tecnico - Lisbon Computer and Software Eng. - A.I. - http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~pocm --- - God had a deadline... So, he wrote it all in Lisp! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
I get the same problem.. yes I'm dual booting with winxp.. and now it seems that if I try to fix the time in linux (KDE) The App crashes.. :-( Senectus Imagine a school with children that can read and write, but with teachers who cannot, and you have a metaphor of the Information Age in which we live. - Peter Cochrane From: Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:57:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from gentoo.org ([204.126.2.42]) by mc1-f7.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:57:06 -0800 Received: (qmail 1031 invoked by uid 1002); 18 Nov 2003 05:56:25 - Received: (qmail 15801 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2003 05:56:24 - X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jG193Qw2Fpm5tnMPweeTZHA Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail gentoo-user.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamxCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-35.5, required 5,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION, IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE_2, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_XIMIAN) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 05:57:06.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[CBDBCDC0:01C3AD98] On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 16:10, Marianne Taylor wrote: My system ie hwclock is set to the local time. But each time I reboot my system clock is set to 8 hrs before my hwclock. Somewhere my system seems to be correcting for Greenwich time, but I can't figure out where. In rc.conf I have the clock set to local time. Where else can I look for this problem. I don't want to keep correcting this. Any chance it's a dual-boot w/ Windows? Windows doesn't treat time correctly. signature.asc _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] An F in an ebuild description?
Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote: Hi all, Can someone please explain me what the following F means? [ebuildFU ] media-video/realplayer-8-r7 [8-r6] It means that the file will have to be fetched manually and placed into /usr/portage/distfiles. If you do 'emerge -u realplayer' it should tell you where to go to get the file. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems
Hi Kathy, Thank you for replying. I am downloading and installing the latest version of gimp-print, which found a newer version of foomatic programs. I did already have the ppd file for my HP printer installed. I will take a little while for the compiles to work; my print server is a slow computer. Thanks, Harlan... On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:56 am, Kathy Wills wrote: Harlan wrote: Thank you for replying. I did, and still do, have the cupsd running. I do start it they way you suggest. I have even stopped it and restarted it several times. Still no joy. Thanks, Harlan... I don't have a HP Printer. To get my Canon printer working., I had to emerge gimp-print then download the recommended ppd file for my printer and follow the directions at http://www.linuxprinting.org to set it up. You'll find the ppd for your printer here http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_420C and the setup instructions here http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
Windows doesn't use UTC for the hw clock. You set the BIOS to local time and windows works from there. Where things get messed up is when you set your hardware clock to UTC, tell Linux that and then dual boot. The time get's messed up by Windows. You might check the archives as there have been quite a few discussions on this very problem. IIRC the solution is to set the hw clock to local, set rc.conf to show that - or dump windows on the box G. On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:08:51 -0500 Ric Messier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2003.11.18 10:51, Donnie Berkholz wrote: It means that in my experience, if you don't have time set to UTC in Linux, every time you boot Windows it will mess your time up. I've never set my time to UTC under linux and Windows never messes my time up. Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows XP have all been perfect for dual booting. I don't think Windows makes such an assumption about the hardware clock. Certainly hasn't been my experience and would be a bit out of the ordinary for them. They may well assume that the hardware clock is set to Pacific time, though. :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources
Title: Gentoo-sources Does anyone have a list of kernel settings for build time that includes iptables/netfilter/mangaling ? I'm having a heck of a time Building the kernel. I continually get errors or genkernel won't get past Make Modules. I've looked at the log in var but thats not much help. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff
Re: [gentoo-user] An F in an ebuild description?
Thanks a lot! On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 18:11, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote: Hi all, Can someone please explain me what the following F means? [ebuildFU ] media-video/realplayer-8-r7 [8-r6] It means that the file will have to be fetched manually and placed into /usr/portage/distfiles. If you do 'emerge -u realplayer' it should tell you where to go to get the file. -- Paulo J. Matos : pocm [_at_] mega . ist . utl . pt Instituto Superior Tecnico - Lisbon Computer and Software Eng. - A.I. - http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~pocm --- - God had a deadline... So, he wrote it all in Lisp! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo internal structure
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:11:57AM +0100, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote: 1. Is Gentoo commercial or non-commercial organization? It currently is a company (Gentoo Technologies Inc.) but steps are being taken to become a non-for-profit organisation. 2. Is there Gentoo project leader, like in Debian? How is it elected? Daniel Robbins is leading the Gentoo project. There is no election procedure, and as Daniel is doing a great job, none has been requested. 3. How key decisions are done? Is there voting system? Gentoo has several top-level projects [1]. Each project is in charge for a well-defined part of the distribution. When decisions need to be made, the situation is discussed at the appropriate mailinglists/channels, after which the Gentoo managers (the leads of the top-level projects) get together to discuss the situation and vote. 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/projects.xml?showlevel=1 -- ^__^ And Larry saw that it was Good. (oo) Sven Vermeulen (__) http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Documentation Project pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo internal structure
What's wrong with the social contract?? On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:44:45 +0100 Sven Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:11:57AM +0100, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote: 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/projects.xml?showlevel=1 -- ^__^ And Larry saw that it was Good. (oo) Sven Vermeulen (__) http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Documentation Project -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PCSC smartcard reader
I have one here, and to be honest, I have no idea if it's working or not, or if it's me just not using it correctly, or using the right tools. You may have a look at these sites: http://www.opensc.org/ http://www.linuxnet.com/ Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 18:07, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi mathieu, Thanks for your detail advice. I have following points expected to be advised. - snip - Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel from Gentoo website to retain old kernel. So there will be 2 kernels at boot for selection. I use Grub. 1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build: # emerge gentoo-sources # cd /usr/src # rm -f linux # ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux # cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux Is it .config a hidden file under linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/ yes. it's created by make menuconfig (or config / oldconfig / config). I've never understood why it's hidden, I would have called it kernel.config. There is also a live version that you can find in /proc/config but maybe you've got to compile something in kernel (or it's only for 2.6, I don't remember) 2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver # cd /lib/modules # touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound (should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to backup them) # emerge alsa-driver I have not installed alsa-driver yet. Gentoo 1.4 is without sound. At time of installing Gentoo1.4 I installed emerge emu10k1 because the box has a Creative Sound Blaster Live sound card. The installation was interrupted unexpectedly. I posted for assistance on this List and I was advised that I should install alsa-driver. Therefore I just left it there incomplete. Now at boot the OS can't detect the sound module I tried to find the bootlog to show it here but could not find it under /var/log/ follow the gentoo doc to install alsa-driver, it's easy and clear, as ever ;-) 4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed. What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel) root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 Sorry, I'm a lilo-user. When I try to install grub, I get stuck in the post-bios-boot-thingy (before bootloader gets loaded) with a blinking cursor at bottom of screen. but, I would do the following. title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel) root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 or in vi /Gentoo4yy3jpf(Cgentoo-r9esc2j^Aj^A:wq ;-) -- mathieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X11 crashing when switching to terminal or shutdown
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 09:57, Henti Smith wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:42:42 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that I can't use the console - or specifically I can't see it. But X remains fine; that is I can switch back to it and continue using it. Consoles are always blank after starting X, though. Drivers before 4363 (I think) didn't and still don't have that problem. If X is actually crashing, or you want to be able to see the console after switching into X, perhaps try an earlier driver? I'll give that a try. Thanks It remembers me of something I've read about X stealing Virtual Terminal when it spawns to fast. I may be wrong but I think X takes the first available VT. If VTs haven't got enough time to spawn. I don't remember how it can be solve, but googling around searching this problem could help you. -- mathieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamic DNS recommendations
ZONEEDIT is a great service. Have been using it for years. Highly recommended. -rdg --- Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:34:19AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, My ISP keeps moving my DHCP cable modem IP and I cannot keep up with it from remote locations, so I'm checking out things like DynDNS.org ods.org. Can anyone recommend a free service, or very low cost service, that would just give me a DNS name so that I could ssh into my house without having to keep tracking this stuff by hand? Also, DynDNS references 3 Linux clients - ipcheck, ez-ipupdate and ddclient. I found two in portage. Any recommendations on what software to use to do this? My Gentoo box is on about 18 hours per day, and is behind a DLink firewall. I use dyndns.org and ddclient. It works great and I haven't had a single problem with it yet... -- :wq! Matthew Daubenspeck http://www.oddprocess.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] moving to new partition
Jason Stubbs wrote: Well, there's something that cp doesn't do... Most *nix gurus will tell you to use some magically tar and cpio pipe to do the job. I would have put that but I couldn't find an appropriate example. ;-) Here u have such example :-) : find src_dir -print | cpio -pduml dest_dir -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] interesting article: optimizing GCC
begin quote On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:47:03 +0200 Sami Näätänen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:44, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 09:57, Chris Graves wrote: interesting article about selecting gcc optimizations (found on OSNews.com). http://www.coyotegulch.com/acovea/index.html Quite a good article! Shame it doesn't apply to us. I can't remember where I read it, but the gcc crew were talking about doing an overhaul (or at least an investigation) into -O1 -O2 and -O3. As previous informal benchmarks done by Gentooists show, with the current GCC compilers (including 3.3) -O2 can often produce faster code than -O3. This is meant to have been addressed in 3.4. The most distracting point in his teest was the fact that all tests were running in isolated environment ie no other running processes. This lets the whole 11k instruction cache of P4 for the one process, so that the penalty of unrolling and inlining raises quite a bit from normal desktop systems. This is a very good point, and ties well in with the question of the size of the chosen benchmark algorithms. Since smaller, tighter algorithms (thats very popular in benchmarks. gzip, bzip2 and so on) fit nicely in the cache, whearas a large benchmark (mp3 encoding for example) has many algorithms and suffer penalties due to their size not fitting in cache, making O3 in many cases an adverse optimization. Do note though, Lame is not a good benchmark due to cpu detection and assembler code. You'd need a straight-C or C++ code to do good benchmarking on gcc. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] strange boot message Xargs: environment is too large for exec
When I installed gentoo back on 1.3, I too had this message. One of the updates to baselayout (I think) fixed the problem. Are you current on your 'emerge -u world'? -rdg --- Zarick Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 18:02, Andreas Schmitzer wrote: hello, recently i installed gentoo 1.4 for ahtlon-xp. while booting the message appears : cleaning /var/lock, /var/run, Xargs: environment ist too large for exec try upgrade the findutils what does it mean and how do i solve it? it doesn´t seem to be a serious problem, because it´s possible to work. swap has 256 MB and physical ram is 256 MB too, /var has 7 GB. because i still don´t have a working network or connection to the internet, i made my install with the 2 GPR install cd´s. thanks in advance. greetings andreas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Security updates
MAL -- Yes the security update issue is important for me as well. There was a thread somewhere from australia (I believe) where a guy is installing gentoo for a large customer with lots of servers. The ability to update security without breaking a gentoo system is a real problem that I hope gets solved in portage/ng. Even revdep-build fails when the packages that you need have been 'cleaned' from your system and are no longer on the rsync servers. -rdg --- MAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabien Fivaz wrote: Hi, I installed Gentoo from a GRP CD and do not want emerge to update gnome, KDE, especially, I don't want them to be compiled (until I really want to use my laptop for sunday afternoon barbecue!) I asked myself if it was possible to emerge only security updates ? Does emerge -u system compiles all the security updates ? Or does emerge -u world also compiles some ? Or is there some kind of emerge -u security. I don't think so, but there is maybe a workaround... emerge security is a feature a lot of us would like to see, and I think something along those lines is in the works. For now, your best bet is to sign up to the gentoo-announce mailing list, where GLSA (Gentoo Linux Security Announcements), are posted, and read/follow instructions when they arrive. MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PCSC smartcard reader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 November 2003 18:55, Daniel Struck wrote: I have one here, and to be honest, I have no idea if it's working or not, or if it's me just not using it correctly, or using the right tools. You may have a look at these sites: http://www.opensc.org/ http://www.linuxnet.com/ Those are the 2 sites I have been frequenting, fruitlessly :( - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uniiInuLMrk7bIwRAtpKAJ95Ivj/IjTNUIsyWlzNlX07R0jM8wCeLlkn MtJ0F8HpepUjLj8xZivHkVg= =6DjX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Time Adjustment
I got ntp working this morning. Still get the same message in Gnome, but who cares as the time is more exact now than I could ever get it myself. Thanks a lot Andrew and MadMax. On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 20:32, MadMax wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:21:49 -0800, Mike Roberts muttered: Simple question, I think. Using Gnome2 i can not adjust my time. I right click on the time displayed in the panel, menu pops up, click on 'adjust date time...', and I get the following message: Failed to locate a program for configuring the date and time. Perhaps none is installed? Assuming you just want to adjust it to the correct time, and not a random time, you can use ntp. There is a thread here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=41099 that goes through setting up the ntp daemon to automagically update the time and date for you. Personally, I have 'ntpdate' in my crontab, and it runs every day. emerge ntp pick your local time server from this list: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock2a.html I go to Adelaide University, so I use ntp.saard.net as my server. run this command as often as you need: ntpdate ntp.saard.net And there you go, the time and date will be set correctly. :) Cheers, Max. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoos (OT)
All answers about gentoo ;-) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Peter_and_Barbara_Barham/gentoo.htm more pictures: http://images.google.com/images?q=gentoo+-linux -- mathieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo user -- Questions
That kernel seems to work pretty well too -- and I don't have to use the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 bit. When using gs-sources, is there any way to get genkernel to automagically copy the bzImage to /boot and run make modules_install like it does with the other kernels? Thanks, -Luke On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:55, Hall Stevenson wrote: You could go with gs-sources as it's based on an even *newer* kernel, 2.4.23_pre8 or pre9. I switched to that and my attempts at getting USB mouse, keyboard, and digital camera went away (not without add'l work, mind you ... that add'l work *may* have worked with an older kernel too). Hall At 10:06 AM 11/18/2003, you wrote: Installing the 2.4.22 kernel (gentoo-test-sources) made all of my acpi problems go away -- and all of my system resource usage issues (real or perceived) go away too. :-) How long does it usually take for a package like gentoo-test-sources to be approved for the stable system? Thanks, -Luke On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 18:06, Luke Scharf wrote: Thanks - I'll give that a try, since the stock kernel seems to like to suck up a lot of CPU cycles at odd times. It's probably related to the ACPI hack that I used... I really like this system, though -- all of the advantages of Debian, except that I get access to free-as-in-beer software and I get up to date packages without having to go to unstable. :-) -Luke On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 21:45, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Go into /usr/portage/sys-kernel and in some of the directories you will find 2.6 kernel ebuilds. This directory contains subdirectories for all the kernels available. However, only some kernels have 2.6 versions. Peruse the subdirectories in sys-kernel and pick one you like. You'll have to use the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge ./ebuildname technique while you are in the subdirectory for the kernel. On Sunday 16 November 2003 21:28, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 21:08, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 20:51, you wrote: So far, it's a really good -- especially for something that appears at first glance to be bleeding edge. One of the reasons I'm running it on my personal machine is to find out how often the packages get broken. That way, I can decide if it makes sense to run it at work. If you do not use ~arch (i.e. ~x86) routinely you'll be installing stable packages. If you use ~arch for everything you're experimenting G. I do NOT have ~x86 in my /etc/make.conf but when I want to merge a package that is masked I do ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge packagename Cool. I prefer to stay with stable stuff by default. :-) So, if I wanted to experiment with the 2.5 or 2.6 kernel, what package would I emerge? I just checked and emerge -s gentoo-sources and it appears to only have the 2.4.20-r8 under that name. Thanks! -Luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] xconfig
Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Thanks Paul -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
Sven Vermeulen wrote: Thank you for anwers. Here are some more. 3. How key decisions are done? Is there voting system? Gentoo has several top-level projects [1]. Each project is in charge for a well-defined part of the distribution. When decisions need to be made, the situation is discussed at the appropriate mailinglists/channels, after which the Gentoo managers (the leads of the top-level projects) get together to discuss the situation and vote. Who are Gentoo managers? Are they elected? Are they Gentoo Technologies Inc employees? 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. Can Gentoo maintainers alter the Social Contract? -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
What's with your questions?? Sven Vermeulen wrote: Thank you for anwers. Here are some more. 3. How key decisions are done? Is there voting system? Gentoo has several top-level projects [1]. Each project is in charge for a well-defined part of the distribution. When decisions need to be made, the situation is discussed at the appropriate mailinglists/channels, after which the Gentoo managers (the leads of the top-level projects) get together to discuss the situation and vote. Who are Gentoo managers? Are they elected? Are they Gentoo Technologies Inc employees? 4. Can Gentoo maintainers correct the Social Contract? Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. Can Gentoo maintainers alter the Social Contract? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 22:45, Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. How does it fail? What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Depends. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 20:45, Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Thanks Paul -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list What does it fail with? If you're logged in as a user and using su to build the kernel in an xterm, try the following: Open terminal xhost +localhost su - enter password cd /usr/src/linux make xconfig ...and all should be fine. Note that 2.6 has a new QT and GTK config available too, `make qconfig` and `make gconfig` I think, though I'm not sure. -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?
I'm running ssmtp (the default sendmail program, I think) on Gentoo. It works great for sending messages (like this one), but it doesn't seem to do too well for local mail delivery. The only things that I use local mail delivery for are reading the results of cronjobs and for things like logwatch. Ideally, I'd like to set ~root/.forward to point to my user account and then let evolution read /var/spool/mail/myusername. Is this possible with ssmtp? If not, how do you all solve this problem? Thanks in advance, -Luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:25:10PM -0400, Jeff MacDonald wrote: I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason for me to kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because there are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor and be getting my work done on the smaller done. As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one instance of x, with a wider screen. I've only run it this way (via nvidia twinview, their version of xinerama), but I understand that it can be set up with a second X running if it's desired. No idea how to set it up though, I'm sure there's info in the web forums though. alan -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games.-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?
Luke Scharf wrote: I'm running ssmtp (the default sendmail program, I think) on Gentoo. It works great for sending messages (like this one), but it doesn't seem to do too well for local mail delivery. The only things that I use local mail delivery for are reading the results of cronjobs and for things like logwatch. Ideally, I'd like to set ~root/.forward to point to my user account and then let evolution read /var/spool/mail/myusername. Is this possible with ssmtp? If not, how do you all solve this problem? ssmtp does not work this way. It is pretty much a mail gateway. I don't know if it can be done the way you propose without a full mail server. The only way I know to get local mail delivery is with a full mail server such as sendmail or qmail. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] interesting article: optimizing GCC
Sami Näätänen wrote: So the test made would suit for compile or rendering farms, but not for desktop environment. Absolutely. Very hard to find out why some desktop program recently crashed if any system binary might be the reason.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] What Guest OS do you run on Vmware?
question,
What guest OS('s) do you have running on your vmware?
Have you run into an OS that would not install on vmware?
What steps did you take that might of been different for an install?
the reason i ask is i ran mandrake version 9.1rc-1 on vmware and it
froze my gentoo box? I had no keyboard control, with flashing numlock
and caplock.
vmware version 4.0.2 build-5592
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mylex DAC960PD-3
Am Montag, 17. November 2003 22:37 schrieb Christian Schäfer: I thought it was a kernel patch? is it integrated in the current kernel? In 2.4 and 2.6 do you know if it is possible to flash new firmware without burning an eeprom? In the archive is a tool to flash (fwpd352.exe) an a image to use (FWPU3522.IMA). But you need a DOS Bootdisk. thanks! No Prob. PHilipp -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] cardreader and hotplug questions
I have hotplug set up to recognize my CF flash card reader properly, but it's not user friendly just yet. Right now when I want to use it I have to put the card in the reader, run /etc/init.d/hotplug restart, and it comes up fine. If I don't restart hotplug the dev/sda* devices don't show up. I have some of the auto-mounting scripts set up from the forums, but it doesn't work completely :) I think that hotplug is working when the reader is plugged into the usb slot, but I was hoping it would work (like windows) when the card itself was plugged in and out. Anyone got any setup advice for me here? I'd *like* to be able to simply put in the card and have it mounted, and unmount when I take it out (or have it always mounted but no files displaying maybe, not sure how it's supposed to work. Another oddity is that the mask of the files on the flash are 744, so under nautilus I cannot go into the DCIM directory (for the stored pictures), and have to do all my copying from a terminal. The mount line in /etc/fstab has noauto,users,mode=0755,ro as the options. TIA alan -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games.-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What Guest OS do you run on Vmware?
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:03:23PM -0800, FX wrote:
question,
What guest OS('s) do you have running on your vmware?
Have you run into an OS that would not install on vmware?
What steps did you take that might of been different for an install?
I have run windowsxp, windows2000 and gentoo within vmware 4 under
linux. No differences in install, except choosing the right hardware,
and installing the vmware tools after a completed install.
the reason i ask is i ran mandrake version 9.1rc-1 on vmware and it
froze my gentoo box? I had no keyboard control, with flashing numlock
and caplock.
Sounds like a kernel issue maybe. I know that the 2.6 series isn't
completely vmware friendly yet. What kernel sources are you running?
Have you managed to get any different OSs to install (IE another
gentoo, bsd, or a windows* variant)? Also, at what point did it freeze.
It might have been something to do with the network or usb perhaps. Try
removing some of these options in the config to try to debug.
alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tue 18 November 2003 20:48, Janne Johansson wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 22:45, Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. How does it fail? What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Depends. This is the error output, hope it helps, I seem to remember along time ago mention was made of needing something extra for xconfig to work. bash-2.05b# cd /usr/src/linux bash-2.05b# make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts kconfig.tk make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' cat header.tk ./kconfig.tk ./tkparse ../arch/i386/config.in kconfig.tk echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\ kconfig.tk echo set ARCH \i386\ kconfig.tk cat tail.tk kconfig.tk chmod 755 kconfig.tk make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk make: wish: Command not found make: *** [xconfig] Error 127 bash-2.05b# -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 15:52, Andrew Gaffney wrote: ssmtp does not work this way. It is pretty much a mail gateway. I don't know if it can be done the way you propose without a full mail server. The only way I know to get local mail delivery is with a full mail server such as sendmail or qmail. Darnit! Oh well -- back to running Sendmail (and typing sendmail -q0 ; sendmail -bp) for me. :-) -Luke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 21:22, Paul Stear wrote: On Tue 18 November 2003 20:48, Janne Johansson wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 22:45, Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. How does it fail? What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Depends. This is the error output, hope it helps, I seem to remember along time ago mention was made of needing something extra for xconfig to work. bash-2.05b# cd /usr/src/linux bash-2.05b# make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts kconfig.tk make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' cat header.tk ./kconfig.tk ./tkparse ../arch/i386/config.in kconfig.tk echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\ kconfig.tk echo set ARCH \i386\ kconfig.tk cat tail.tk kconfig.tk chmod 755 kconfig.tk make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk make: wish: Command not found make: *** [xconfig] Error 127 bash-2.05b# In that case, as root: emerge tk -pv then emerge tk Should fix it fine... -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:22, Paul Stear wrote: This is the error output, hope it helps, I seem to remember along time ago mention was made of needing something extra for xconfig to work. bash-2.05b# cd /usr/src/linux bash-2.05b# make xconfig ... wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk make: wish: Command not found Seems like you're at least missing the command wish, which is part of the tk. Re-emerge tk and try again to see what happens. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 4:22 pm, Paul Stear wrote: On Tue 18 November 2003 20:48, Janne Johansson wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 22:45, Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. How does it fail? What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Depends. This is the error output, hope it helps, I seem to remember along time ago mention was made of needing something extra for xconfig to work. bash-2.05b# cd /usr/src/linux bash-2.05b# make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts kconfig.tk make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' cat header.tk ./kconfig.tk ./tkparse ../arch/i386/config.in kconfig.tk echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\ kconfig.tk echo set ARCH \i386\ kconfig.tk cat tail.tk kconfig.tk chmod 755 kconfig.tk make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk make: wish: Command not found make: *** [xconfig] Error 127 bash-2.05b# It's been my experience that some of the later 2.4 kernels didn't support xconfig, at least on Gentoo, and I got the same error. I never figured out why, and never pursued it, as I've gone to 2.6 kernels anyway. I did compile a bunch of 2.4 kernels on Mandrake, but IIRC, I always used xconfig with them. Also, xconfig requires qt to be installed, and if you have kde installed, qt is too. Robert Crawford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
Emerge -pv dev-lang/tk? On 21:22 Tue 18 Nov, Paul Stear wrote: On Tue 18 November 2003 20:48, Janne Johansson wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 22:45, Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. How does it fail? What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Depends. This is the error output, hope it helps, I seem to remember along time ago mention was made of needing something extra for xconfig to work. bash-2.05b# cd /usr/src/linux bash-2.05b# make xconfig rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts kconfig.tk make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' cat header.tk ./kconfig.tk ./tkparse ../arch/i386/config.in kconfig.tk echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\ kconfig.tk echo set ARCH \i386\ kconfig.tk cat tail.tk kconfig.tk chmod 755 kconfig.tk make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r1/scripts' wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk make: wish: Command not found make: *** [xconfig] Error 127 bash-2.05b# -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Barry Marler Information Analyst II Center for Applied Genetic Technologies University of Georgia 706.583.0164 [office] 706.583.0160 [fax] http://www.plantgenome.uga.edu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo user -- Questions
At 03:23 PM 11/18/2003, you wrote: When using gs-sources, is there any way to get genkernel to automagically copy the bzImage to /boot and run make modules_install like it does with the other kernels? You know, I've been using this for years make install It doesn't do 'make modules_install' that I know of though. Maybe it does, but since I've already done it by hand, it skips through it. What 'make install' does, by the way, is copy bzImage and rename it 'vmlinuz-(uname -r)' to /boot, create symlinks from that vmlinuz-(uname -r) to 'vmlinuz', create System.map-(uname -r) and symlinks and finally runs '/sbin/lilo'. Actually, it just prompts you to run it and you say Y or N. If you use GRUB, I don't know what it does at that step. This is not something I made up either. I read it in a kernel README or Documention item years ago. It still works and seems to work okay. Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
