[gentoo-user] /etc/filesystems is not considered when probing "auto" filesystemtype

[Alexander Skwar]

Hi!

In my /etc/fstab, I added the following line:

/dev/SigmaTel /mnt/SigmaTel auto defaults,noauto,users 0 0

The "mount" manpage says:

|ÂIfÂnoÂ-tÂoptionÂisÂgiven,ÂorÂifÂÂtheÂÂautoÂÂtypeÂÂisÂÂspecified,
|ÂmountÂwillÂtryÂtoÂguessÂtheÂdesiredÂtype.ÂÂIfÂmountÂwasÂcompiled
|ÂwithÂtheÂblkidÂlibrary,ÂtheÂguessingÂisÂdoneÂÂbyÂÂthisÂÂlibrary.
|ÂOtherwise,ÂÂmountÂÂguessesÂÂitselfÂbyÂprobingÂtheÂsuperblock;Âif
|ÂthatÂdoesÂnotÂturnÂupÂanythingÂthatÂlooksÂfamiliar,ÂÂmountÂÂwill
|ÂtryÂÂtoÂÂreadÂÂtheÂÂfileÂÂ/etc/filesystems,Âor,ÂifÂthatÂdoesÂnot
|Âexist,Â/proc/filesystems.ÂÂAllÂofÂtheÂÂfilesystemÂÂtypesÂÂlisted
|ÂthereÂÂwillÂÂbeÂtried,ÂexceptÂforÂthoseÂthatÂareÂlabeledÂ"nodev"
|Â(e.g.,Âdevpts,ÂprocÂandÂnfs).ÂÂIfÂÂ/etc/filesystemsÂÂendsÂÂinÂÂa
|ÂlineÂÂwithÂÂaÂÂsingleÂÂ*Âonly,ÂmountÂwillÂreadÂ/proc/filesystems
|Âafterwards.

Because of that, I set my /etc/filesystems to contain *only*
the following line:
vfat

Now I mounted "/dev/SigmaTel". I expected, that the "vfat"
filesystemtype be used, but:

[08:29:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ LC_ALL=C mount -v /dev/SigmaTel
mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/SigmaTel
   I will try type msdos
/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 on /mnt/SigmaTel type msdos 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)

Why's that? Why did the "msdos" filesystem get chosen? When 
I mount the device "manually", I can (successfully) use the
"vfat" filesystem.

[08:29:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/udev/rules.d] $ mount --version
mount: mount-2.12p

[08:30:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/udev/rules.d] $ uname -a
Linux exp01 2.6.8.1-ck9 #2 Fri Oct 8 11:45:40 CEST 2004 i686 Intel(R) 
Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

sys-fs/udev-050

Thanks a lot,

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange UDP port activity

[Rumen Yotov]

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fluffy wrote:
| Hi,
|
| Can anyone tell me what's happening here?
|
| nmap -sU -sV -p- 127.0.0.1
|
| Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
| (The 65532 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
| PORT  STATE SERVICEVERSION
| 68/udpopen|filtered dhcpclient
| 111/udp   open  rpcbind2 (rpc #10)
| 50682/udp open  unknown
|
| 
|
| Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
| (The 65532 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
| PORT  STATE SERVICEVERSION
| 68/udpopen|filtered dhcpclient
| 111/udp   open  rpcbind2 (rpc #10)
| 62421/udp open  unknown
|
| ---
|
| The port number changes EVERY TIME I run nmap, netstat shows nothing and
| both rkhunter and chkrootkit say nothing suspicious is going on.
|
| As the port number keeps changing, I can't use fuser to find out what's
| running on these random ports and before I reformat the machine I was
| just wondering if anyone else could help?
|
| Thanks,
| Ciaran.
|
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Hi,
Same here - some always changing UDP-port seen.
Could this have something to do with the running nmap-program or nmap
options? Don't have time right now to check more.
Rumen
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[gentoo-user] Strange UDP port activity

[fluffy]

Hi, 

Can anyone tell me what's happening here?

nmap -sU -sV -p- 127.0.0.1

Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
(The 65532 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT  STATE SERVICEVERSION
68/udpopen|filtered dhcpclient
111/udp   open  rpcbind2 (rpc #10)
50682/udp open  unknown



Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
(The 65532 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT  STATE SERVICEVERSION
68/udpopen|filtered dhcpclient
111/udp   open  rpcbind2 (rpc #10)
62421/udp open  unknown

---

The port number changes EVERY TIME I run nmap, netstat shows nothing and
both rkhunter and chkrootkit say nothing suspicious is going on.  

As the port number keeps changing, I can't use fuser to find out what's
running on these random ports and before I reformat the machine I was
just wondering if anyone else could help?

Thanks,
Ciaran.


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Re: [gentoo-user] safer shell script

[Mariusz Pękala]

On 2005-02-01 12:34:25 -0500 (Tue, Feb), Covington, Chris wrote:
> How can I work around this problem by modifying the
> content-filter script to check the permissions / existence of
> $ANOMY_CONF and exit if the permissions are wrong instead?

man bash, see section CONDITIONAL EXPRESSION.
You may also see 'man test', but [[, [ and 'test' are bash's builtin
commands. The 'external' test utility has a little different syntax.

The construct may be:

if [ -w FILE ] && [ ! -d FILE ] || [ ! -e FILE ]
then
  echo Writable.
else
  echo Not writable
fi

Symbolic links to directories are catched by -d operator, so I suppose
this should work.

HTH :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[John Myers]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 16:03, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> [On in reply to any one message in particular, so not quoting anyone.]
> 
> Probably the best way to do this is to provide a drop-in replacement for 
> make w/ an optional patch to emerge/ebuild.  
Probably, but in the shorter term, a patch would be more likely, as rewriting 
make,
making it bug-compatible, would be a project all its own.

> Make is really what decides  
> how many files will need to be compiled. (For many projects.)
I know that.

> Now that's not easy, but it'd probably be easier than asking the gmake and 
> gcc teams to call back into your daemon and/or making and maintaining your 
> own patches to these (and other) projects and having users recompile them 
> to support your stuff.
A patch to GCC isn't strictly neccessary, though. A wrapper could be created
to run gcc, or it could be done by make just the same as for other processes
that aren't progress-aware. I just thought that if it was patched, it could 
tell what stage of compilation it was on (preprocessing, compiling, assembling,
etc.).
Also, How often does make actually have any major architectural changes? I 
don't 
think a patch to make would be all that hard to maintain.


> Overview:
> 1. Connect to daemon (if you can't just do your job and don't worry about 
> progress reporting)
> 2. Report your pid; daemon uses this to build progress montior heirarchy.
> 3. Determine how many sub-jobs you have [ant, nant, make, scons, etc. 
> already do something like this while they are building the dependency 
> tree]; report to daemon.
> 4. Spawn jobs (squentially, in threads, as separate processes, whatever); 
> if they are aware of the daemon they will be able to communicate with it 
> independently.
> 5. As jobs finish; report to daemon.
> 
> * Daemon should be light weight, and separate from the UI.
Umm, yeah.That was exactly my idea. The UI would be a completely separate
component, related only by a common communication protocol. Same with the
clients. The daemon just keeps track.  

> * UI could provide different looks:
>   - Progress bar tree (similar to a process tree)
>   - Progress bar stack (for purely/mostly sequential tasks)
>   - Nested progress bars (they'd fill up like eDonkey or GetRight's 
> progress bars; not strictly reading order)
Of course. The author of a viewer could make the progress bars any way they 
want.
As an example, I might even write a web-based viewer.

> * Programs that report to the deamon could also act like UI agents; in the 
> case of make it could show a progress bar that's really the "sum" progress 
> of it and all it's child makes.
Maybe. This would be, in some ways, harder. I would go more for just supressing
console output and forking to the background

Also, here's an expansion of my concept: a client, bundled in the distribution,
to allow shell scripts (ebuilds, anyone?) to use the system.

Here's how I see it working:
Two parts: 
1) a *client* daemon. This would be the process that actually communicates with
the master daemon. It would keep the connection to the master open, and would
also have a consistent PID (unlike a shell script, which, AFAIK, may not). We 
don't want the master daemon to think we mysteriously died and report an error.
This client daemon would keep track of just the one job's tasks.

2)the API. I see this as two parts as well: A binary to do the actual 
communication,
and a shell script function library, so that it can change environment variables

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS/Samba problems

[J. Patrick Campbell]

On Tue, February 1, 2005 11:38 pm, Nick Rout said:
> passwords?

nope. got a drive mapped just fine to 'printer' home dir
>
> try restarting samba and cupsd a couple of times. works for me (win2k
> client)
>
> lord knows why!

done that and again for giggles, no worky.
>:(

~P

>
>
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:27:14 -0500 (EST)
> "J. Patrick Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm using the latest versions of CUPS and Samba in portage (stable)
>> from win2k3, i can map to user 'printer's home dir
>> i can see the printer attached to my gentoo workstation.
>> when i double click the printer in windows, i have a msg in the title
>> bar
>> Access denied, and I cannot print.
>> my /etc/samba/smb.conf is here:
>> http://scorpaen.us/gentoo
>> i have restarted samba and cups many times.
>> any ideas welcome
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS/Samba problems

[Nick Rout]

passwords?

try restarting samba and cupsd a couple of times. works for me (win2k
client)

lord knows why!


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:27:14 -0500 (EST)
"J. Patrick Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm using the latest versions of CUPS and Samba in portage (stable)
> from win2k3, i can map to user 'printer's home dir
> i can see the printer attached to my gentoo workstation.
> when i double click the printer in windows, i have a msg in the title bar
> Access denied, and I cannot print.
> my /etc/samba/smb.conf is here:
> http://scorpaen.us/gentoo
> i have restarted samba and cups many times.
> any ideas welcome
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
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[gentoo-user] CUPS/Samba problems

[J. Patrick Campbell]

I'm using the latest versions of CUPS and Samba in portage (stable)
from win2k3, i can map to user 'printer's home dir
i can see the printer attached to my gentoo workstation.
when i double click the printer in windows, i have a msg in the title bar
Access denied, and I cannot print.
my /etc/samba/smb.conf is here:
http://scorpaen.us/gentoo
i have restarted samba and cups many times.
any ideas welcome

thanks,

Patrick



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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes

[Calvin Walton]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:45:48 -0800, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sound works great for me in 2.6.7 by selecting the following PCI device:
> <*> Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111
> but there is no such option in 2.6.10 and the closest I see is this:
> <*> Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller
> but I have no sound. 

Hmm. I havn't been using the in-kernel ALSA, but when i check, the
Intel i8x0 driver has been renamed in the configuration screen. If you
look at the details (? in menuconfig), it is still
CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0, the same thing.

> Does anyone know how I can get sound back?  It seems strange that a
> working audio driver would be pruned from the kernel like this.

Is there any output from the kernel when loading the sound driver in
dmesg? also try building the alsa stuff as modules, i have
occasionally seen problems when it is built into the kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed from 1.4. Gentoo, now what?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 07:40 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[And didn't mention Rumen Yotov, whose comments are prefixed with "> >"]
> > First you should upgrade portage: emerge sync (check as i'm using
> > esync).
>
> I have already done this.. and I have upgraded the portage itsself to
> the latest version ( I think).
>
> > Update your system profile: /etc/make.profile to at least 2004.0
>
> How do I do this? What code?.

Browse usr/portage/profiles and make a symlink to the appropriate directory 
as /etc/make.profile.  when you are done you should have something like 
this:

#ls /etc/make.profile -l
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 47 Dec  5 20:40 make.profile 
-> /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.3/

> > Then check for new packages: 'emerge -Du system/world -pv'.
>
> I'm not sure, what the purpose of this... I can see a lot of the kernel
> sources in /usr/portage/sys-kernel... but  am not sure what the *right"
> kernel sources and the kernel itself to use for XFS filesystem.

I'm just running gentoo-dev-sources which gives me 2.6.10-r6 + gentoo 
security and performance patches.

Pretty much any 2.6 kernel will give you XFS support.

> Thanks anyway. Another thinkg is that I have a ltmodem driver for my
> existing kernel and I am curious as how to upgrade the kernel, ( the
> whole thing) without the internet connection lose, as this is the only
> machine for me to do things.

1) Don't overwrite your old kernel.
2) Have your bootloader provide 2 options (old kernel that you know works + 
new kernel that you are going to try).

Then you can boot into your new kernel to see if everything is working.  If 
not, you can always come back to your old kernel to find out how to fix 
the new one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Nick Smith]

On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 21:38 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 01:31 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:15:21 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
> > > > > > while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with
> > > > > > one push of a button. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Most commercial DVDs are dual layer and won't fit on a single layer
> > > > > DVD-R. To make an exact copy you need a dual layer burner and
> > > > > (expensive) dual layer discs.
> > > > > 
> > > > the program automaticly transcodes the dvd and compresses it perfectly
> > > > to fit on a 4.7 (actually 4.4) gig dvd, with the highest possible
> > > > quality.
> > > 
> > > OK, so it's not an EXACT copy. If you want to reduce the size of the data
> > > to fit 4.7GB (or 4.4 GiB if you prefer :) you have to discard something.
> > > You either reduce the quality of everything by a sizeable factor, or you
> > > discard some elements of the DVD and reduce the quality of the remainder
> > > by less. Programs like 9to5 take the latter approach, although an overall
> > > compression of the whole DVD is equally possible.
> > > 
> > care to elaborate on how its possible? and with what? i wouldnt mind
> > loosing somethings if when you first put the DVD in the player that it
> > "looked" original even if the menu items didnt play.(the movie of
> > course) something besides putting in the dvd and it just starts playing.
> 
> dvdunauthor.  I would use it to extract the data off of the dvd, then
> use the guts of dvd9to5 to resize the movie, then dvdauthor to remaster.
> However, dvdunauthor is new and doesn't produce stable results last I
> checked.
> 
> okay, dammit.  I went and looked at dvdauthor.  Latest stable is 0.5.0,
> masked is 0.6.10.  I'm merging 0.6.10 now.  I suppose I'll make an
> ebuild for dvd9to5 first, then tackle dvdunauthor...  nag, nag, nag :)
> 
swt! ;-)
> Not to mention I also looked at when I released 0.1.7, 06Jun2004.  It's
> about time for an update. ;)
> 
> Cooper.
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] An ebuild to stable.

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 06:37 pm, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:30:41 +
> > Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Is there a place where I can recomend/ask for an ebuild to become
> >> stable (x86 instead of ~x86) ?
> > bugs.gentoo.org
> >
>
> Doesn't this to some degree depend on where the ebuild came from in the
> first place? If normally from Portage, there's no reason to request that
> an ~arch ebuild be made stable; afaik, that occurs normally 30 days
> after it went "live", if there are no major bugs reported.

Right, but this doesn't happen automatically, AFAIK.  A request on b.g.o 
could help, esp. if the ebuild has been forgotten.  It's unlikely that an 
ebuild goes stable before 30 days are up, sincethat is gentoo's agreed 
upon timeframe for bug reports.

> If, on the other hand, this is an ebuild that originally came from
> b.g.o., then requesting that it be included in the regular Portage tree
> might be the next step, but there appear to be quite a few ebuilds on
> b.g.o which seem to be "stuck in traffic". I myself don't know what is
> the process for moving such forward.

Pretty much the same as any bug w/ patch.  Has to get to the right herd, 
and then it has to be looked over and approved.  Then someone with CVS 
access commits it.  Depending on how many ebuild are avilable for the 
package and how extensive the ebuild is, it can take a while just to get 
it looked at and approved.

Once in portage, the 30 day ticker applies to these equally.  The herd must 
agree to adopt and maintain the ebuild or it won't get put into portage; 
just left available for people to place in their overlays, if need be.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Jason Cooper]

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 01:31 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:15:21 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > > > im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
> > > > > while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with
> > > > > one push of a button. 
> > > > 
> > > > Most commercial DVDs are dual layer and won't fit on a single layer
> > > > DVD-R. To make an exact copy you need a dual layer burner and
> > > > (expensive) dual layer discs.
> > > > 
> > > the program automaticly transcodes the dvd and compresses it perfectly
> > > to fit on a 4.7 (actually 4.4) gig dvd, with the highest possible
> > > quality.
> > 
> > OK, so it's not an EXACT copy. If you want to reduce the size of the data
> > to fit 4.7GB (or 4.4 GiB if you prefer :) you have to discard something.
> > You either reduce the quality of everything by a sizeable factor, or you
> > discard some elements of the DVD and reduce the quality of the remainder
> > by less. Programs like 9to5 take the latter approach, although an overall
> > compression of the whole DVD is equally possible.
> > 
> care to elaborate on how its possible? and with what? i wouldnt mind
> loosing somethings if when you first put the DVD in the player that it
> "looked" original even if the menu items didnt play.(the movie of
> course) something besides putting in the dvd and it just starts playing.

dvdunauthor.  I would use it to extract the data off of the dvd, then
use the guts of dvd9to5 to resize the movie, then dvdauthor to remaster.
However, dvdunauthor is new and doesn't produce stable results last I
checked.

okay, dammit.  I went and looked at dvdauthor.  Latest stable is 0.5.0,
masked is 0.6.10.  I'm merging 0.6.10 now.  I suppose I'll make an
ebuild for dvd9to5 first, then tackle dvdunauthor...  nag, nag, nag :)

Not to mention I also looked at when I released 0.1.7, 06Jun2004.  It's
about time for an update. ;)

Cooper.

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[gentoo-user] alsa-driver build error

[Mike Payson]

I've been trying to do an emerge -u world for about two weeks now. Every 
time it get's to alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1, it crashes. Here's the error 
message I'm getting. Any ideas?

Thanks!
Mike
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE=1 
-I/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1/work/alsa-driver-1.0.8rc1/include  
-I/usr/src/linux/include -I/usr/src/linux/include -O2  -DLINUX -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -Wno-trigraphs -O2 
-fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -DALSA_BUILD -nostdinc 
-iwithprefix include  -DKBUILD_BASENAME=pcxhr_hwdep   -c -o 
pcxhr_hwdep.o pcxhr_hwdep.c
pcxhr_hwdep.c: In function `pcxhr_setup_firmware':
pcxhr_hwdep.c:212: error: structure has no member named `dev'
make[2]: *** [pcxhr_hwdep.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1/work/alsa-driver-1.0.8rc1/pci/pcxhr'
make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_pcxhr] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1/work/alsa-driver-1.0.8rc1/pci'
make: *** [compile] Error 1

!!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 76, Exitcode 2
!!! Parallel Make Failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed from 1.4. Gentoo, now what?

[Eric Thompson]

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 01:40:15 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > | Hi list,
> > |
> > | I have installed Gentoo from the old 1.4 Pentium optimized version and
> > curious as what
> > | the *right* thing to do next... Do I have to emerge new
> > kernel-sources? I'm using
> > | xfs-sources and have two xfs partitions as well. It seems that logical
> > thing to do
> > | is to upgrade, before I do anything else. OK, if som what the
> > procedure? What kernal
> > | sources do I have to emerge for XFS? Anything else what you can
> > comment on is welcome.
> > |
> > | Asterius.
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> > |
> > Hi,
> > First you should upgrade portage: emerge sync (check as i'm using esync).
> I have already done this.. and I have upgraded the portage itsself to the 
> latest version ( I think).
> > Update your system profile: /etc/make.profile to at least 2004.0
> How do I do this? What code?.
> > Then check for new packages: 'emerge -Du system/world -pv'.
> I'm not sure, what the purpose of this... I can see a lot of the kernel 
> sources in
> /usr/portage/sys-kernel... but  am not sure what the *right" kernel sources 
> and the kernel
> itself to use for XFS filesystem.
> 
> Thanks anyway. Another thinkg is that I have a ltmodem driver for my existing 
> kernel
> and I am curious as how to upgrade the kernel, ( the whole thing) without the 
> internet
> connection lose, as this is the only machine for me to do things.
> 
> Asterius.
> > Read the docs on www.gentoo.org, there's plenty of info.
> > HTH
> > Rumen
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> 

This guide from Gentoo.org should guide you in the process to upgrade
to the current profile
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/new-upgrade-to-gentoo-1.4.xml
and this will show you how to upgrade from any profile after 2004.0 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
Hope this helps

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed from 1.4. Gentoo, now what?

[asteriusb]

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> | Hi list,
> |
> | I have installed Gentoo from the old 1.4 Pentium optimized version and
> curious as what
> | the *right* thing to do next... Do I have to emerge new
> kernel-sources? I'm using
> | xfs-sources and have two xfs partitions as well. It seems that logical
> thing to do
> | is to upgrade, before I do anything else. OK, if som what the
> procedure? What kernal
> | sources do I have to emerge for XFS? Anything else what you can
> comment on is welcome.
> |
> | Asterius.
> |
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> |
> |
> Hi,
> First you should upgrade portage: emerge sync (check as i'm using esync).
I have already done this.. and I have upgraded the portage itsself to the 
latest version ( I think).
> Update your system profile: /etc/make.profile to at least 2004.0
How do I do this? What code?.
> Then check for new packages: 'emerge -Du system/world -pv'.
I'm not sure, what the purpose of this... I can see a lot of the kernel sources 
in
/usr/portage/sys-kernel... but  am not sure what the *right" kernel sources and 
the kernel
itself to use for XFS filesystem.

Thanks anyway. Another thinkg is that I have a ltmodem driver for my existing 
kernel
and I am curious as how to upgrade the kernel, ( the whole thing) without the 
internet
connection lose, as this is the only machine for me to do things.

Asterius.
> Read the docs on www.gentoo.org, there's plenty of info.
> HTH
> Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Nick Smith]

On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 01:31 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:15:21 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
> 
> > > > im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
> > > > while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with
> > > > one push of a button. 
> > > 
> > > Most commercial DVDs are dual layer and won't fit on a single layer
> > > DVD-R. To make an exact copy you need a dual layer burner and
> > > (expensive) dual layer discs.
> > > 
> > the program automaticly transcodes the dvd and compresses it perfectly
> > to fit on a 4.7 (actually 4.4) gig dvd, with the highest possible
> > quality.
> 
> OK, so it's not an EXACT copy. If you want to reduce the size of the data
> to fit 4.7GB (or 4.4 GiB if you prefer :) you have to discard something.
> You either reduce the quality of everything by a sizeable factor, or you
> discard some elements of the DVD and reduce the quality of the remainder
> by less. Programs like 9to5 take the latter approach, although an overall
> compression of the whole DVD is equally possible.
> 
care to elaborate on how its possible? and with what? i wouldnt mind
loosing somethings if when you first put the DVD in the player that it
"looked" original even if the menu items didnt play.(the movie of
course) something besides putting in the dvd and it just starts playing.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> To iterate is human; to recurse, divine.
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:15:21 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:

> > > im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
> > > while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with
> > > one push of a button. 
> > 
> > Most commercial DVDs are dual layer and won't fit on a single layer
> > DVD-R. To make an exact copy you need a dual layer burner and
> > (expensive) dual layer discs.
> > 
> the program automaticly transcodes the dvd and compresses it perfectly
> to fit on a 4.7 (actually 4.4) gig dvd, with the highest possible
> quality.

OK, so it's not an EXACT copy. If you want to reduce the size of the data
to fit 4.7GB (or 4.4 GiB if you prefer :) you have to discard something.
You either reduce the quality of everything by a sizeable factor, or you
discard some elements of the DVD and reduce the quality of the remainder
by less. Programs like 9to5 take the latter approach, although an overall
compression of the whole DVD is equally possible.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installed from 1.4. Gentoo, now what?

[Rumen Yotov]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Hi list,
|
| I have installed Gentoo from the old 1.4 Pentium optimized version and
curious as what
| the *right* thing to do next... Do I have to emerge new
kernel-sources? I'm using
| xfs-sources and have two xfs partitions as well. It seems that logical
thing to do
| is to upgrade, before I do anything else. OK, if som what the
procedure? What kernal
| sources do I have to emerge for XFS? Anything else what you can
comment on is welcome.
|
| Asterius.
|
| --
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|
|
Hi,
First you should upgrade portage: emerge sync (check as i'm using esync).
Update your system profile: /etc/make.profile to at least 2004.0.
Then check for new packages: 'emerge -Du system/world -pv'.
Read the docs on www.gentoo.org, there's plenty of info.
HTH
Rumen
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[gentoo-user] Installed from 1.4. Gentoo, now what?

[asteriusb]

Hi list,

I have installed Gentoo from the old 1.4 Pentium optimized version and curious 
as what
the *right* thing to do next... Do I have to emerge new kernel-sources? I'm 
using
xfs-sources and have two xfs partitions as well. It seems that logical thing to 
do
is to upgrade, before I do anything else. OK, if som what the procedure? What 
kernal
sources do I have to emerge for XFS? Anything else what you can comment on is 
welcome.

Asterius.

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[gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes

[Grant]

Sound works great for me in 2.6.7 by selecting the following PCI device:

<*> Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111

but there is no such option in 2.6.10 and the closest I see is this:

<*> Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller

but I have no sound.  Here's lspci -v info:

:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems
[SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0)
Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 0195
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 173, IRQ 5
I/O ports at 1400
I/O ports at 2480 [size=128]
Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2

Does anyone know how I can get sound back?  It seems strange that a
working audio driver would be pruned from the kernel like this.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problemas na inicialização do Gentoo

[Rumen Yotov]

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Cesar wrote:
| Olá Pessoal,
|
| Estou com algum problema na inicialização do Gentoo_r6. Tudo começou da
| seguinte forma: atualizei a árvore portage como o comando: # emerge
| --sync e depois atualizei os pacotes instalados com o comando: # emerge
| --update --deep --newuse world
|
| Quando fui reiniciar a máquina deparei com o seguinte erro na
| inicialização:
|
| INIT: Id "c1" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
| INIT: Id "c2" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
| INIT: Id "c3" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
| INIT: Id "c4" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
| INIT: Id "c5" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
| INIT: Id "c6" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
| INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
|
| Será que alguém pode me ajudar (help)...
|
| Obrigado.
|
Ola,
Esta e uma lista em ingles. Tenta se haver uma em portugues.
Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] An ebuild to stable.

[Holly Bostick]

Nick Rout wrote:
bugs.gentoo.org
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:30:41 +
Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Is there a place where I can recomend/ask for an ebuild to become stable (x86 
instead of ~x86) ?
Thanks.
- -- 
Doesn't this to some degree depend on where the ebuild came from in the 
first place? If normally from Portage, there's no reason to request that 
an ~arch ebuild be made stable; afaik, that occurs normally 30 days 
after it went "live", if there are no major bugs reported.

If, on the other hand, this is an ebuild that originally came from 
b.g.o., then requesting that it be included in the regular Portage tree 
might be the next step, but there appear to be quite a few ebuilds on 
b.g.o which seem to be "stuck in traffic". I myself don't know what is 
the process for moving such forward.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: encrypt with smime.p7s

[Rumen Yotov]

Tony Boom wrote:
Hello Qiangning,
Tuesday, February 1, 2005, 5:11:59 PM, you wrote:
QH> Do I really need a certificate?  I was thinking the other's public key 
QH> ought to be sufficient.

You can get a free personal certificate here http://www.thawte.com/
If you look you'll see all my posts are MIME signed.
You can also get a Verisign certificate but they last 3 months and cost
after that I think.
Hi,
Or you could just make yourself a certificate (self-signed) with 
openssl, i use such.
i have both Open-PGP & S/MINE for sighning/encrypting. Sign this with my 
S/MIME-certiticate.
PS:another option is to register with www.cacert.org for a free certs.
HTH
Rumen


smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

[gentoo-user] sharing evolution calendars, kinda

[Nick Smith]

i finally got evolution to where i could add an exchange meeting request
into my calendar, but i use evolution in multipul places, work and home,
and there are two seperate calendars, ie, what is at home is not at work
and visa versa. is there a way to link the two? i accomplied my task by
forwarding the job from my boss that he puts in my outlook calendar to
my email in evolution and can add it to that calendar. once in evolution
i noticed that i can 'forward as icalendar'. is icalendar something that
can do this for me? aka link all my calendars together? or is there
another solution? also has anyone got open-xchange working in gentoo?
the one currently masked in portage? the wiki is incomplete as well, and
i dont want to start something where the install doc isnt finished. i do
have a fully functional mail server now, postfix/courier-imap its just
suppose to sit on top of it right? like a nice front end for the rest of
it? what about phpgroupware? does it work?

thanks for the replies

nick


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Re: [gentoo-user] I need help getting new install working

[georoberts]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 06:41 pm, Ric Messier wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Can someone point me in the right direction to finding the fix for
> > getting the modules to compile.
>
> Error messages are always helpful. Usually kernel build problems are a
> result of dependency errors. You didn't include an option that's required
> for the one you want to build. The 2.6 series is much better at this than
> older kernel revs.
>
> Ric
>
>
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I was using genkerel all, straight out of the box, so that I know that I was 
not adding anything that would trigger a failure.

This is the output of /var/log/gentkernel.log, minus a few thousand lines.

gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.28-gentoo-r5/include -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i586  -DMODULE  -nostdinc -iwithprefix 
include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=auermain  -c -o auermain.o auermain.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.28-gentoo-r5/include -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i586  -DMODULE  -nostdinc -iwithprefix 
include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=auerisdn  -c -o auerisdn.o auerisdn.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.28-gentoo-r5/include -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i586  -DMODULE  -nostdinc -iwithprefix 
include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=auerisdn_b  -c -o auerisdn_b.o auerisdn_b.c
ld -r -o pwc.o pwc-if.o pwc-misc.o pwc-ctrl.o pwc-uncompress.o
ld -r -o auerswald.o auerbuf.o auerchain.o auerchar.o auermain.o auerisdn.o 
auerisdn_b.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.28-gentoo-r5/drivers/usb'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.28-gentoo-r5/drivers'
* Gentoo Linux Genkernel; Version 3.1.0h [0m

* ERROR: Failed to compile the "modules" target...
* -- Grepping log... --
* -- End log... --
* Please consult /var/log/genkernel.log for more information and any
* errors that were reported above.
* Report any genkernel bugs to bugs.gentoo.org and
* assign your bug to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include
* as much information as you can in your bug report; attaching
* /var/log/genkernel.log so that your issue can be dealt with effectively.
* 
* Please do *not* report compilation failures as genkernel bugs!
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Jason Cooper]

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 18:56 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > > any ideas? is no one in linux coping entire dvds? i dont want just the
> > > movie, i want the whole dang thing!
> > 
> > Naturally, I would agree with you.  However, If your source dvd is a
> > dual layer (most are) at 7.9GB, you *can't* copy it to current dvd+/-r's
> > as they are single layer, 4.7GB.  The quality loss is noticeable.  When
> > I wrote dvd9to5, I made the decision to go for quality as opposed to
> > quantity until such time as dual-layer burners are cheap <$250/<$2.  
> > 
> > I suspect windows apps that copy everything over are halving the
> > resolution, down-muxing the audio to stereo, or something similar.
> > Hell, most of the time the movie alone, with _no_ audio is ~4.5GB.  They
> > gotta make cuts somewhere.  
> > 
> > I think a lot of developers are holding off on investing a lot of energy
> > into compressing the whole dvd to 4.7GB, cause they see dual-layer
> > burners on the horizon.  So why not wait?  
> >
> so this program automaticly knows what audio track to grab? cause i have
> had problems with other programs in the past (dvd x copy) taking the
> wrong track, say, french, and when i get around to watching the dvd the
> entire thing is in french. which sucks. i could live without submenus, i
> never watch them, and most of the time can do without the extras, its
> just nice to have a professional looking copy when your done.

It grabs the first audio track every time, unless you tell it otherwise.
For all the dvd's in my collection, that's english.  Don't have any
experience with overseas dvds.  

If you don't insert a blank, it'll close after extraction and give you
the command to enter to burn it.  This way you can mplayer the .mpeg
file to check for correctness before burning.

Cooper.

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[gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[David Morgan]

On 19:18 Tue 01 Feb , Nick Smith wrote:
> so this program automaticly knows what audio track to grab? cause i have
> had problems with other programs in the past (dvd x copy) taking the
> wrong track, say, french, and when i get around to watching the dvd the
> entire thing is in french. which sucks. i could live without submenus, i
> never watch them, and most of the time can do without the extras, its
> just nice to have a professional looking copy when your done.
> 
> 
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> 

I just use mencoder (it comes with mplayer), because I'm not bothered
about extras or being able to pick a certain scene. As such, I use
mplayer first to make sure I'm getting the right version of the film. So
I guess you can use mplayer in the same way, and then use whatever fancy
tool you like for encoding, assuming that it lets you choose the track
yourself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Jason Cooper]

Harald Arnesen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > What must i install to do this under Linux, please something easy, so
> >> i
> >> > can insert a dvd and then create a copy of it.
> >
> > 
> 
> I have used this program a lot.
> 
> > http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
> > 
> >
> > It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
>   
> 
> That is my problem with the program.

See my other response in this thread for why I chose not to copy the
menus over.  It can be done, but last I checked, dvdunauthor isn't
reliable.  I need dvdunauthor to behave predictably before I can use it
for extraction.  After that, it's easy.  Any other method I've looked at
is just too convoluted to be stable.  

If anyone has had experience recently with dvdunauthor, let me know and
I'll take another look at it.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

[On in reply to any one message in particular, so not quoting anyone.]

Probably the best way to do this is to provide a drop-in replacement for 
make w/ an optional patch to emerge/ebuild.  Make is really what decides 
how many files will need to be compiled. (For many projects.)

Now that's not easy, but it'd probably be easier than asking the gmake and 
gcc teams to call back into your daemon and/or making and maintaining your 
own patches to these (and other) projects and having users recompile them 
to support your stuff.

Along the way, you'd might be able to make recursive make's -j option 
work a bit better.

Overview:
1. Connect to daemon (if you can't just do your job and don't worry about 
progress reporting)
2. Report your pid; daemon uses this to build progress montior heirarchy.
3. Determine how many sub-jobs you have [ant, nant, make, scons, etc. 
already do something like this while they are building the dependency 
tree]; report to daemon.
4. Spawn jobs (squentially, in threads, as separate processes, whatever); 
if they are aware of the daemon they will be able to communicate with it 
independently.
5. As jobs finish; report to daemon.

* Daemon should be light weight, and separate from the UI.
* UI could provide different looks:
  - Progress bar tree (similar to a process tree)
  - Progress bar stack (for purely/mostly sequential tasks)
  - Nested progress bars (they'd fill up like eDonkey or GetRight's 
progress bars; not strictly reading order)
* Programs that report to the deamon could also act like UI agents; in the 
case of make it could show a progress bar that's really the "sum" progress 
of it and all it's child makes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Nick Smith]

On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 18:56 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > any ideas? is no one in linux coping entire dvds? i dont want just the
> > movie, i want the whole dang thing!
> 
> Naturally, I would agree with you.  However, If your source dvd is a
> dual layer (most are) at 7.9GB, you *can't* copy it to current dvd+/-r's
> as they are single layer, 4.7GB.  The quality loss is noticeable.  When
> I wrote dvd9to5, I made the decision to go for quality as opposed to
> quantity until such time as dual-layer burners are cheap <$250/<$2.  
> 
> I suspect windows apps that copy everything over are halving the
> resolution, down-muxing the audio to stereo, or something similar.
> Hell, most of the time the movie alone, with _no_ audio is ~4.5GB.  They
> gotta make cuts somewhere.  
> 
> I think a lot of developers are holding off on investing a lot of energy
> into compressing the whole dvd to 4.7GB, cause they see dual-layer
> burners on the horizon.  So why not wait?  
> 
> ah, well, that's my 2cents.
> 
> Cooper.
> 
so this program automaticly knows what audio track to grab? cause i have
had problems with other programs in the past (dvd x copy) taking the
wrong track, say, french, and when i get around to watching the dvd the
entire thing is in french. which sucks. i could live without submenus, i
never watch them, and most of the time can do without the extras, its
just nice to have a professional looking copy when your done.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Nick Smith]

On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 00:12 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:30:55 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
> 
> > im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
> > while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with one
> > push of a button. 
> 
> Most commercial DVDs are dual layer and won't fit on a single layer DVD-R.
> To make an exact copy you need a dual layer burner and (expensive) dual
> layer discs.
> 
the program automaticly transcodes the dvd and compresses it perfectly
to fit on a 4.7 (actually 4.4) gig dvd, with the highest possible
quality.
> If the original is less than 4.7GB, you can simply rip it with vobcopy and
> burn a copy with growisofs. K3b can probably do this too, although I
> haven't tried.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:30:55 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:

> im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
> while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with one
> push of a button. 

Most commercial DVDs are dual layer and won't fit on a single layer DVD-R.
To make an exact copy you need a dual layer burner and (expensive) dual
layer discs.

If the original is less than 4.7GB, you can simply rip it with vobcopy and
burn a copy with growisofs. K3b can probably do this too, although I
haven't tried.


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If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:29:13 -0800, James Colannino wrote:

> Maybe you could expand on the already existing codebase of eprogress and
> then call it eprogress-enhanced ;)

There's plenty of room for expansion :)

$ wc -l /usr/local/bin/eprogress
19 /usr/local/bin/eprogress


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Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...

[Nick Rout]

maybe the file or directory called "kernel" in the log directory.

if all else fails grep the log directory for what you want, that should
id the file you need to look at.




On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:08:38 -0800
Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Looked in everything/current and saw nothing interesting. Looked in
> the cups error log. Nothing there either. Don't know where metalog
> puts what you might be interested in.

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Re: [gentoo-user] An ebuild to stable.

[Nick Rout]

bugs.gentoo.org


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> Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Jason Cooper]

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> any ideas? is no one in linux coping entire dvds? i dont want just the
> movie, i want the whole dang thing!

Naturally, I would agree with you.  However, If your source dvd is a
dual layer (most are) at 7.9GB, you *can't* copy it to current dvd+/-r's
as they are single layer, 4.7GB.  The quality loss is noticeable.  When
I wrote dvd9to5, I made the decision to go for quality as opposed to
quantity until such time as dual-layer burners are cheap <$250/<$2.  

I suspect windows apps that copy everything over are halving the
resolution, down-muxing the audio to stereo, or something similar.
Hell, most of the time the movie alone, with _no_ audio is ~4.5GB.  They
gotta make cuts somewhere.  

I think a lot of developers are holding off on investing a lot of energy
into compressing the whole dvd to 4.7GB, cause they see dual-layer
burners on the horizon.  So why not wait?  

ah, well, that's my 2cents.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Harald Arnesen]

Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> > What must i install to do this under Linux, please something easy, so
>> i
>> > can insert a dvd and then create a copy of it.
>
> 

I have used this program a lot.

> http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
> 
>
> It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
  

That is my problem with the program.

> quality just enough to squeeze the movie onto one 4.7GB dvd-/+r at the
> highest quality possible.  I've backed up my collection (>100 dvds) with
> it without problem.  It takes about 1.5 hours per dvd.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Burning CDs

[Harald Arnesen]

Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Je Mardo Februaro 1 2005 09:13, Neil Bothwick skribis:
>> cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus will show whether your CD writer is detected.
> It seems it's not being detected:
> liv root # cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jïg 
> Schilling
> cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
> scsidev: 'ATAPI'
> devname: 'ATAPI'
> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
> Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
> Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained.
> Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow.
> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
>
> right ? what can I do ?

cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc (or wherever your cd-recorder lives)
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Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL related portage recommended *downgrades*?

[Kashani]

William Yang wrote:
I've been a Gentoo user for a while now (this is based on a 2004.1 box, 
but I've been syncing and upgrading every week or two), and I'm a little 
confused about a recent change.

I run mysql 4.0.22-r2 on a production machine on a x86 
(i686-pc-linux-gnu); after the last sync of the portage tree, the system 
now recommends a DOWNGRADE to 3.23.58-r1.

# emerge --pretend --update world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild UD] dev-db/mysql-3.23.58-r1 [4.0.22-r2]
[ebuild UD] net-www/mod_auth_mysql-1.11 [20030510-r2]
While I understand how to avoid applying these changes, I'm trying to 
understand why this change is now being recommended.  I'm also confused, 
as http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mod_auth_mysql doesn't 
show mod_auth_mysql as being stable, and the latest stable for mysql is 
4.0.22-r2 on x86 architectures.

Why these downgrade recommendations?
Probably a screwup with the Apache herd. They have been reorganizing 
things, getting rid of mod_contrib, and getting other modules up to date.

The actual current version on mod_auth_mysql is 2.8 which I'm using in 
production. The 1.1 stuff which is really old and the 2003 stuff which 
is what most people are using. 2.8 should work fine with Mysql 4 or 3 
and also with Apache 1 and 2. On my system it wants to upgrade Apache to 
2.0 as well.

I'd probably keep an eye on any APache stuff for the next couple of 
weeks as apparently things aren't going to go a smooth as was planned.

kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] root .bash_history...

[Maarten]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 11:20, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 08:04, Peter Karlsson wrote:

> >  However, taking it
> > off-line and doing some basic forensic research revealed nothing. This
> > doesn't mean that the computer isn't compromised of course. This happened
> > right after I upgraded/emerged some packages, namely:
>
> I don't think it's possible for it to happen. One must _actaully_ want
> to remove the .bash_history file because doing rm .bash_history just
> doesn't work.

What do you mean ?  It works perfectly, provided you make sure you prevent the 
shell writing its history upon your subsequent exit (ie. don't exit cleanly):

morpheus:~ # rm -f .bash_history
morpheus:~ # ps
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
18076 pts/100:00:00 su
18077 pts/100:00:00 bash
18095 pts/100:00:00 ps
morpheus:~ # kill -9 18077
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>

I can guarantee you there is no more /root/.bash_history now.

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[gentoo-user] An ebuild to stable.

[Pupeno]

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Is there a place where I can recomend/ask for an ebuild to become stable (x86 
instead of ~x86) ?
Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Nick Smith]

im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with one
push of a button.  its the only reason i boot into windows at all.  is
there no program that will let you do this in linux? i havent tried wine
or anything like that, does anyone think it will work in something like
that? ive even considered vmware, but im not too sure how the under
lying workings will jive with that, or even if the virtual machine will
even see a DVD burner or just a normal cdrom.

this is one of my last steps to being windows free, it would be nice to
finally kick it to the curb, but i need a good replacment for that
program.

any ideas? is no one in linux coping entire dvds? i dont want just the
movie, i want the whole dang thing!


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[James Colannino]

John Myers wrote:
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 01:20, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 

It's a good idea, but you should choose a different name. there is already
a script called eprogress floating around the forums. 
   

Darn. I just picked it to go along with the whole 'e-prefix' naming scheme.
But I will see what I can do. 
 

Maybe you could expand on the already existing codebase of eprogress and 
then call it eprogress-enhanced ;)

James
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:54:19 +1300, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:27:06 -0800
> Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >We've got a nice Gentoo box that's been working pretty well for
> > about 16 months but for some reason printing continues to be sort of
> > problematic. No idea if this is a Gentoo issue or a CUPS issue. Thanks
> > in advance.
> >
> >For whatever reason the printer will, at times, just go off line.
> > It's an Epson All-in-One printer/scanner/copier. When it's online it
> > works fine. However it goes off line at odd times and then I have to
> > ssh into the box and start it up as my dad, now in his late 70's, is
> > not administering it at all.
> 
> What do you mean by "off-line" - I usually take this to mean an
> electrical disconnection by, for example, pushing the "offline" button
> on the printer. do you mean cupsd stops running or something? Do you
> mean the printer physically turns itself off?

Oh, sorry. I open CUPS manager in Mozilla (localhost:631) and look at
the printer. I'm told it's 'Stopped'. There's a button there to
'Start' the printer which I do and it starts printing whatever is in
the print queue.

> 
> Incidentally I have a problem where my wife cannot print from her win2k
> box unless I restart hpoj [1], cupsd and samba in somewhat random order
> until it works. Very annoying. perhaps related.
> 
> you haven't told us whteher your father is printing from gentoo or
> somewhere else on his lan (if he has one).

Printing from Gentoo only. I don't run Samba on this machine and the
printer isn't (or shouldn't be) shared.

> 
> [1] hpoj isn't relevant to you, it is a service related to hp printers
> >
> >Why do printers go off line in Linux? The last time it happened he
> > had received a warning message earlier in the day in dmesg about
> > magenta ink being low. Does CUPS/Linux automatically take a printer
> > off line for that sort of reason? Can that be changed?
> >
> >This morning I'm seeing the following in dmesg:
> >
> > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3
> > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if
> > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
> > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
> > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
> > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
> > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4
> > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if
> > 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
> > usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 4
> > drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
> > ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
> >
> 
> OK, how far apart are these messages, dmesg doesn't tell you, but
> /var/log/syslog | /var/log/klog may do.

Don't have either AFAICT:

gandalf log # ls
Xorg.0.log  criticaleverything  lastlog   pwdfail   wtmp
Xorg.0.log.old  crond   ftpdmail  scrollkeeper.log  xdm.log
apache2 cupsgdm news  sshd
apcupsd.events  emerge.log  kernel  ntpd.log  telnet
gandalf log # ps aux | grep log
root  6827  0.0  0.1  1516  664 ?Ss   Jan28   0:00 metalog
[MASTER]
root  6828  0.0  0.1  1468  536 ?SJan28   0:00 metalog [KERNEL] 

Looked in everything/current and saw nothing interesting. Looked in
the cups error log. Nothing there either. Don't know where metalog
puts what you might be interested in.

If I shouldn't be using metalog and there are some simple instructions
on how to change to something else I'd be happy to do that. This is
the only machine I have using that.

Thanks,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] MySQL related portage recommended *downgrades*?

[William Yang]

I've been a Gentoo user for a while now (this is based on a 2004.1 box, 
but I've been syncing and upgrading every week or two), and I'm a little 
confused about a recent change.

I run mysql 4.0.22-r2 on a production machine on a x86 
(i686-pc-linux-gnu); after the last sync of the portage tree, the system 
now recommends a DOWNGRADE to 3.23.58-r1.

# emerge --pretend --update world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild UD] dev-db/mysql-3.23.58-r1 [4.0.22-r2]
[ebuild UD] net-www/mod_auth_mysql-1.11 [20030510-r2]
While I understand how to avoid applying these changes, I'm trying to 
understand why this change is now being recommended.  I'm also confused, 
as http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=mod_auth_mysql doesn't 
show mod_auth_mysql as being stable, and the latest stable for mysql is 
4.0.22-r2 on x86 architectures.

Why these downgrade recommendations?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Problems with stage1 install

[Dave Nebinger]

> I'm trying to do an stage1 on an pentium, but im getting this error when
> bootstrapping:

Follow the instructions for emerging 2.6 headers:

1. emerge -C linux-headers
2. emerge --oneshot --nodeps linux26-headers
3. scripts/bootstrap.sh




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Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer questions...

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:27:06 -0800
Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>We've got a nice Gentoo box that's been working pretty well for
> about 16 months but for some reason printing continues to be sort of
> problematic. No idea if this is a Gentoo issue or a CUPS issue. Thanks
> in advance.
> 
>For whatever reason the printer will, at times, just go off line.
> It's an Epson All-in-One printer/scanner/copier. When it's online it
> works fine. However it goes off line at odd times and then I have to
> ssh into the box and start it up as my dad, now in his late 70's, is
> not administering it at all.

What do you mean by "off-line" - I usually take this to mean an
electrical disconnection by, for example, pushing the "offline" button
on the printer. do you mean cupsd stops running or something? Do you
mean the printer physically turns itself off?

Incidentally I have a problem where my wife cannot print from her win2k
box unless I restart hpoj [1], cupsd and samba in somewhat random order
until it works. Very annoying. perhaps related.

you haven't told us whteher your father is printing from gentoo or
somewhere else on his lan (if he has one).





[1] hpoj isn't relevant to you, it is a service related to hp printers
> 
>Why do printers go off line in Linux? The last time it happened he
> had received a warning message earlier in the day in dmesg about
> magenta ink being low. Does CUPS/Linux automatically take a printer
> off line for that sort of reason? Can that be changed?
> 
>This morning I'm seeing the following in dmesg:
> 
> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if
> 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
> ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if
> 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 4
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
> ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
> 

OK, how far apart are these messages, dmesg doesn't tell you, but
/var/log/syslog | /var/log/klog may do.

> 
> 
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 15 if
> 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 15
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
> ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 16
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 16 if
> 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 16
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
> ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 17
> drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 17 if
> 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark $
> 
> 
> Any ideas what this is about? 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your ideas.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IPTables - A good place to start ?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Mal Herring ha scritto:
Frankly, fwbuilder or guarddog would be a very nice front-end 
for iptables/netfilter. AS you mentioned, you _don't_ really 
want to know that much, so these programs would actually do 
all the behind the scenes for you automatically.
   

Thanks for the comments all - however I forgot to mention that the box
in question does not run X and I have no plans for it to given its
required role.
So, could I use fwbuilder to compile a script and then transfer it to
the soon to be live box ?
Thanks in advance
 

Sure!!! Not only, you can have multiple firewalls in the same file, then 
compile whatever you want.
For example I've a internal server that run vnc (remote framebuffer), 
from this one I use fwbuilder to configure three firewalls, one near and 
two far far away (tm).
After a firewall generation use vim to check/modify  and scp to move it.
All from a windoze workstation (don't blame me it's a must here)
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Re: [gentoo-user] I need help getting new install working

[Ric Messier]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone point me in the right direction to finding the fix for getting 
the
modules to compile.
Error messages are always helpful. Usually kernel build problems are a 
result of dependency errors. You didn't include an option that's required 
for the one you want to build. The 2.6 series is much better at this than 
older kernel revs.

Ric
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[gentoo-user] I need help getting new install working

[georoberts]

I am new to linux (I can follow instructions up to the point of screwing 
things up).  I have gotten the kernel (2.4.28.r5) compiled, but while 
compiling the modules, it fails somewhere in the USB folder and never reaches 
my module for the NIC card.  If I continue and build the rest of the system I 
can boot into the system but the network is not coming up.

I upgraded the kernel to the newest kernel (2.6.10.r6), after I compiled it 
the issue with the NIC modules went away.  However I ran in to the new issue 
with the Nvidia cards not working with X11.

I have reformated and started the install again (yes I changed the partition 
table and had to reinstalled Mandrake so it would fix the boot loader for 
me).  I am still running into the same issue with the compilation failing in 
the USB folder.  I have searched for hours in the archives for a fix for 
failing to compile the modules but have not found anything. Am I the only one 
that has had this issue?

Can someone point me in the right direction to finding the fix for getting the 
modules to compile.

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[gentoo-user] I need help getting new install working

[georoberts]

I am new to linux (I can follow instructions up to the point of screwing 
things up).  I have gotten the kernel (2.4.28.r5) compiled, but while 
compiling the modules, it fails somewhere in the USB folder and never reaches 
my module for the NIC card.  If I continue and build the rest of the system I 
can boot into the system but the network is not coming up.

I upgraded the kernel to the newest kernel (2.6.10.r6), after I compiled it 
the issue with the NIC modules went away.  However I ran in to the new issue 
with the Nvidia cards not working with X11.

I have reformated and started the install again (yes I changed the partition 
table and had to reinstalled Mandrake so it would fix the boot loader for 
me).  I am still running into the same issue with the compilation failing in 
the USB folder.  I have searched for hours in the archives for a fix for 
failing to compile the modules but have not found anything. Am I the only one 
that has had this issue?

Can someone point me in the right direction to finding the fix for getting the 
modules to compile.

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[gentoo-user] Problems with stage1 install

[Gentoo]

Hello
I'm trying to do an stage1 on an pentium, but im getting this error when 
bootstrapping:

make[2]: *** No rule to make target 
`../sysdeps/unix/sys~/linux/bits/sched.h', needed by 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1/work/build/bits/stdio_lim.d'. 
Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3/sysvipc'
make[1]: *** [sysvipc/others] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 690, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this 
statusmessage.

This is my emerge --info :
Portage 2.0.51-r15 (default-linux/x86/2004.3, gcc-3.3.4, unavailable, 
2.6.9-gentoo-r1 i586)
=
System uname: 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 i586 Pentium 75 - 200
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
Python: [2.3.4 (#1, Oct 24 2004, 00:50:52)]
dev-lang/python: [Not Present]
sys-devel/autoconf: [Not Present]
sys-devel/automake: [Not Present]
sys-devel/binutils: 2.14.90.0.8-r1
sys-devel/libtool: [Not Present]
virtual/os-headers: 2.4.21-r1
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i586 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config 
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i586 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org 
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo";
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 X apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups encode f77 
font-server foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gpm gtk2 imlib ipv6 jpeg libg++ 
libwww mad mikmod motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib 
perl png python quicktime readline sdl spell ssl svga tcpd truetype 
truetype-fonts type1-fonts xml2 xmms xv zlib"
Unset: ASFLAGS, CBUILD, CTARGET, LDFLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

I have tried 3 times, from the start getting the same error.
I have tried searching the forums, but havent found any good answers.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Error while "bootstrap.sh"

[Dave Nebinger]

> checking that C++ compiler can compile simple program... no
> configure: error: a working C++ compiler is required

This is an error in your CFLAGS and/or CXXFLAGS.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[John Myers]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 10:24, Jason Cooper wrote:
> John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > A clarification:
> > I'm not talking about time estimation here. What I'm talking about is
> > having each provider provide a minimum of two pieces of data: the
> > number of subtasks it will run, and the number of subtasks which 
> > have been completed.
> 
> So more like make saying "I have 33 files to compile, 13 are done"?
Yeah, except a whole hierarchy of those.

 
> > On Tuesday 01 February 2005 02:47, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > > > Also, progress information does not have to be limited to a percentage 
> > > > (though 
> > > > that is required). The information could contain many things, like 
> > > > compiler 
> > > > command lines, warnings, errors, einfos etc.
> > > 
> > > This is the line item requirement I would drive a truck through, if I
> > > were a customer/user. :)  
> > I think i did not properly articulate myself here either: What I meant was 
> > that 
> > in addition to the subtask count and subtask completion count, a client 
> > could 
> > send lots of other data, too.
> > 
> > Or, again, perhaps you understand me, and I do not understand you.
>
> Sorry, I spend a lot of time focusing in on customer vagueness and nailing
> it down.  If you don't nail it down, you get 15 great 'ideas' that are
> 'easy' to add two weeks before the delivery date, and contractually, you
> would have to do it, if you didn't force them to restrict scope in the
> beginning.  
> 
> In short, I understood what you were saying, I was just "highlighting an
> area needing further clarification", albeit colorfully. :)
> 
Ah, I get what you were saying with the truck thing.

> > > Not 
> > > to rain on the idea.  :)  The problem is much more complicated than it
> > > initially looks.  For insight, take a look at the section in
> > > linuxfromscratch regarding SBUs (static bash units).  
> > > 
> > > http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/4.0/LFS-BOOK-4.0-HTML/chapter02/aboutsbus.html
> > I'm not looking to estimate the time left. I realize that that's impossible.
> 
> Not impossible.  Just that the potential gains are not worth the work
> involved to implement.  
I agree.
 
> With the adoption of the 2.6.x kernels, it's not as critical for most 
> users to know how long something will take.  For me personally, I never 
> watch the 'emerge -uDav world' process.  I start it on 4 machines, get a 
> cup of coffee, and proceed with normal computer use.  It doesn't 
> interfere with user interaction at all, so I don't care if it takes 2 
> hours or 2.5.  Just let me know when it's finished.
I usually do the same, but I would rather see a progress indication than 
compiler
command lines. (though I would like them to be available for me to see, hence
the extra data fields)

> > > Personally, I would do less planning and more writing, some of the best
> > > projects started off as a hack to scratch an itch.  Keep it simple.  A
> > > lot of the most useful programs out there are very small.  It can always
> > > be rewritten later to include TCP/IP or threads.
> > Yeah, I just wanted to make sure the idea wasn't stupid.
> 
> Now that I understand you're not trying to predict compile times, it
> seems much more feasible.  However, I would most likely not use it
> simply because it doesn't solve a problem I have.  Others opinions are
> certainly valid also.  Is it worth pursuing?  Well, if it solves a
> problem _you_ have, go for it.  That's all that really matters.
Fine then, don't use it! =)

> 
> If you find it useful, most likely others will too.
I hope so!

Thanks for the input!

Since I have gotten several voices in favor of it, I will embark upon this
great and noble expedition to improve my life (and work on building a 
reputation), and will report back here (maybe gentoo-dev first) when I have
something to show 

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: IPTables - A good place to start ?

[Mal Herring]

> Frankly, fwbuilder or guarddog would be a very nice front-end 
> for iptables/netfilter. AS you mentioned, you _don't_ really 
> want to know that much, so these programs would actually do 
> all the behind the scenes for you automatically.

Thanks for the comments all - however I forgot to mention that the box
in question does not run X and I have no plans for it to given its
required role.

So, could I use fwbuilder to compile a script and then transfer it to
the soon to be live box ?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [gentoo-user] elektra.sourceforge.net

[Christoph Eckert]

> someone for sure ;)
>
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63417

Cool ;-) .

Are there already things elektra can do on a gentoo box 
(except setting variables at login)?


 Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] afs: anyone use it?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 11:11 am, Jonathan Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I believe that it's part of the kernel now, right?
>
> Is anyone using cachefs at all?

Sorry, I haven't even heard of it.

But, on a similar line, could anyone share experiences with afs?

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Re: [gentoo-user] elektra.sourceforge.net

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Christoph Eckert ha scritto:
Hi,
I wonder if does anyone use elektra?
Somehow it seems that it is cool to unify configuration tasks, 
but on the other hand, it reminds me to something I have 
known some years ago ;-) .

It also seems to make it possible to create distro independent 
configuration tools, replacing YaST, DrakConf et al.

I really like the idea behind it. Any opinions?
  Best regards
   ce
 

someone for sure ;)
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63417
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Re: [gentoo-user] Error while "bootstrap.sh"

[Andreas Korinek]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 21:44, Stefan Onken wrote:

> checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
> checking that C++ compiler can compile simple program... no
> configure: error: a working C++ compiler is required
>
> !!! ERROR: sys-apps/groff-1.19.1-r2 failed.
> !!! Function src_compile, Line 85, Exitcode 1
> !!! (no error message)
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this
> status message.
>
> Any Ideas ?

You should check your CFLAGS, there is probably an error in these.

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[gentoo-user] elektra.sourceforge.net

[Christoph Eckert]

Hi,


I wonder if does anyone use elektra?

Somehow it seems that it is cool to unify configuration tasks, 
but on the other hand, it reminds me to something I have 
known some years ago ;-) .

It also seems to make it possible to create distro independent 
configuration tools, replacing YaST, DrakConf et al.

I really like the idea behind it. Any opinions?


   Best regards


ce

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[gentoo-user] Error while "bootstrap.sh"

[Stefan Onken]

I am just installing gentoo on a AMD64 system. During Bootstrap I am 
getting an error:


portage # scripts/bootstrap.sh
-->

emerge (21 of 35) sys-apps/groff-1.19.1-r2 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) groff-1.19.1.tar.gz
>>> Unpacking source...
[...]
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking that C++ compiler can compile simple program... no
configure: error: a working C++ compiler is required

!!! ERROR: sys-apps/groff-1.19.1-r2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 85, Exitcode 1
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this 
status message.

Any Ideas ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Jason Cooper]

Patrick Marquetecken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:41:34 -0500
> Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
> > 
> > 
> > It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
> > quality just enough to squeeze the movie onto one 4.7GB dvd-/+r at the
> > highest quality possible.  I've backed up my collection (>100 dvds)
> with
> > it without problem.  It takes about 1.5 hours per dvd.
> > 
> > Let me know if you have any questions.
> > 
> > Cooper.
> > 
> Thats it what I'm looking for, but how do i know how much titles, audio
> and subtitles.
> And witch different language there are.

Ah... there's the one small problem.  I haven't gotten up the energy to
handle subtitles.  It's not a cut-and-dry solution.  

If you're willing to forgo subtitles, you can run 'tcprobe -i /dev/dvd'
and then pass the title number and audio track number to dvd9to5.pl with
'-t' and '-a'.  Most of the time (at least with American dvds) if you
want 5.1 audio, just './dvd9to5.pl' grabs the correct stuff.

### tcprobe sample output ###
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 en drc 48kHz 2Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 en drc 48kHz 6Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 es drc 48kHz 2Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 fr drc 48kHz 2Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) subtitle 00= 
(dvd_reader.c) subtitle 01= 
(dvd_reader.c) subtitle 02= 
(dvd_reader.c) DVD title 1/1: 28 chapter(s), 1 angle(s), title set 1
[cut chapter list]
#

read as:
audio english stereo (stream 0)
audio english 5.1(stream 1)
audio spanish stereo (stream 2)
audio french  stereo (stream 3)
subtitle english
subtitle spanish
subtitle french
1 or 1 titles, 28 chapters

If you figure out how to do the subtitles, let me know.  I'd be more
than happy to add it in, I just don't have the time to do it myself.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Patrick Marquetecken]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:41:34 -0500
Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Patrick Marquetecken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > After some investigations i found following programs what is the
most
> > easiest of them like dvdshrink ?
> > 
> > Acidrip
> > dvdrip
> > lxdvdrip
> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:48:15 +0100 (CET)
> > "Patrick Marquetecken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have replaced my last windows machine with Gentoo, but forgot
that i
> > > used this also for DXD ripping/copying. This machine has no X on
it
> > > installed, i'm used to use DVDshrink because its very easy because
you
> > > insert the dvd it compress as needed and then you choose start and
the
> > > copy is done.
> > > What must i install to do this under Linux, please something easy,
so
> > i
> > > can insert a dvd and then create a copy of it.
> 
> 
> http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
> 
> 
> It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
> quality just enough to squeeze the movie onto one 4.7GB dvd-/+r at the
> highest quality possible.  I've backed up my collection (>100 dvds)
with
> it without problem.  It takes about 1.5 hours per dvd.
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Cooper.
> 
Thats it what I'm looking for, but how do i know how much titles, audio
and subtitles.
And witch different language there are.

Patrick

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[gentoo-user] Re: easy way to package and transfer binary kernels?

[Jesse Guardiani]

Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 02:28, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
>> Jesse Guardiani ha scritto:
>> 
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >Is there a script that makes it easy to package and
>> >transfer a binary kernel? Currently, I'm having to
>> >separately tar, gzip, and sftp the following dirs/files:
>> >
>> >/lib/modules/2.6.10-gentoo-r6
>> >/usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
>> >/boot/System.map-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
>> >/boot/initrd-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
>> >/boot/kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
>> >
>> >Is there an easier way to do this?
>> >
>> Transfer only /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 and redo a make install &&
>> make modules_install,
>> it should work if not modified after the last install.
>> Alternatvely you can leave /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 out, if you
>> don't compile it you don't need to copy it.
> 
> I think there's a very obvious "flaw" in this. The reason being that the
> sources are actually very big. More towards 200-300MB depending on the
> build options.
> 
> I would prefer instead to just tar and tar up the few directories and do
> it like that.
> 
> That's actually how I'm transferring the sources to another box.


Yeah, but only about 98M or 60M compressed. That's acceptable. However,
I use genkernel. Do you think I can still do a make install && make 
modules_install?

If so, then that's a great solution!

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[gentoo-user] test

[Samuel Rabinowich]

this is a test, I apologize for this stupid mail...

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Jason Cooper]

Patrick Marquetecken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> After some investigations i found following programs what is the most
> easiest of them like dvdshrink ?
> 
> Acidrip
> dvdrip
> lxdvdrip
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:48:15 +0100 (CET)
> "Patrick Marquetecken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have replaced my last windows machine with Gentoo, but forgot that i
> > used this also for DXD ripping/copying. This machine has no X on it
> > installed, i'm used to use DVDshrink because its very easy because you
> > insert the dvd it compress as needed and then you choose start and the
> > copy is done.
> > What must i install to do this under Linux, please something easy, so
> i
> > can insert a dvd and then create a copy of it.


http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/


It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
quality just enough to squeeze the movie onto one 4.7GB dvd-/+r at the
highest quality possible.  I've backed up my collection (>100 dvds) with
it without problem.  It takes about 1.5 hours per dvd.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

[Patrick Marquetecken]

After some investigations i found following programs what is the most
easiest of them like dvdshrink ?

Acidrip
dvdrip
lxdvdrip

TIA
Patrick


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:48:15 +0100 (CET)
"Patrick Marquetecken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have replaced my last windows machine with Gentoo, but forgot that i
> used this also for DXD ripping/copying. This machine has no X on it
> installed, i'm used to use DVDshrink because its very easy because you
> insert the dvd it compress as needed and then you choose start and the
> copy is done.
> What must i install to do this under Linux, please something easy, so
i
> can insert a dvd and then create a copy of it.
> 
> TIA
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Burning CDs

[Pupeno]

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Je Mardo Februaro 1 2005 09:13, Neil Bothwick skribis:
> cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus will show whether your CD writer is detected.
It seems it's not being detected:
liv root # cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jïg Schilling
cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
scsidev: 'ATAPI'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained.
Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow.
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.

right ? what can I do ?

Thank you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Burning CDs

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Je Lundo Januaro 31 2005 23:21, Ian K skribis:
> So basically, Im assuming that it had worked before, otherwise you would
> not be trying.
Yes, it worked before.

> Have you recently upgraded a kernel?
I have lots of kernel upgrades, it used to cause problems since 2.6.7 or so, 
but chaning what program was used (cdrecord or cdrdao) for each operation 
worked, now, nothing works.
BTW, I complete re-installation went thru in the middle.

> Is your CD Burner known to have issues with Linux?
Not that I know.

I had to repair a fan inside the computer, and since this one of those very 
small computers, I had to even remove the motherboard to take out the power 
suply, when I assembled back everything together, at first boot, I've got a 
message (from the BIOS) that the CD-ROM was not ATAPI compliant. I thought 
something was bad with the wires, so, I opened it again, pressed the wires a 
bit and it booted. But from Linux it seems it recognizing the CD-ROM as an HD 
instead of as a CD-ROM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Athlon 64 Mobo Recommendations

[Bruno Lustosa]

Dennis, I have recently bought an ABIT AV8, and it's performing very
very well. It has onboard SATA and RAID, though you can go with an
external card, I think.
Check out at 
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=175

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:24:41 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:

> > I'm not talking about time estimation here. What I'm talking about is
> > having each provider provide a minimum of two pieces of data: the
> > number of subtasks it will run, and the number of subtasks which 
> > have been completed.
> 
> So more like make saying "I have 33 files to compile, 13 are done"?

that#s what the current eprogress script tries to do. It counts the number
of .c and .cpp files in the work directory and compares them with the
number of .o files, presenting the latter as a percentage of the former.
Sometimes it fails miserably, like with glibc, but most of the time it
gives a reasonable approximation of how far through the build progress you
have progressed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Where to configure wireless net?

[Mats Lidell]

> Ow wrote:

Ow> I don't have i-net access so I can't go through the howto. But it should
Ow> be a simple method to get it working.

Ow> eg: netgear MA401RA pccard
[...]

The question is about configuring built in wireless network
support. pcmcia cards work perfectly as you describe. 

As I get it the support for built in wireless network is still
experimental (~x86).

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[gentoo-user] USB printer questions...

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   We've got a nice Gentoo box that's been working pretty well for
about 16 months but for some reason printing continues to be sort of
problematic. No idea if this is a Gentoo issue or a CUPS issue. Thanks
in advance.

   For whatever reason the printer will, at times, just go off line.
It's an Epson All-in-One printer/scanner/copier. When it's online it
works fine. However it goes off line at odd times and then I have to
ssh into the box and start it up as my dad, now in his late 70's, is
not administering it at all.

   Why do printers go off line in Linux? The last time it happened he
had received a warning message earlier in the day in dmesg about
magenta ink being low. Does CUPS/Linux automatically take a printer
off line for that sort of reason? Can that be changed?

   This morning I'm seeing the following in dmesg:

usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 3
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if
1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if
1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 4
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup



drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 15 if
1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 15
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 16
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 16 if
1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 16
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: removed
ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 17
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 17 if
1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0801
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Any ideas what this is about? 

Thanks in advance for your ideas.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[Jason Cooper]

John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> A clarification:
> I'm not talking about time estimation here. What I'm talking about is
> having each provider provide a minimum of two pieces of data: the
> number of subtasks it will run, and the number of subtasks which 
> have been completed.

So more like make saying "I have 33 files to compile, 13 are done"?

> On Tuesday 01 February 2005 02:47, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip clarification]
> > > 2) eprogressd (one for each master task, i.e. if you had an emerge and 
> > > some 
> > > other make running at the same time, they would be kept separated). the 
> > > eprogressd would run in the background and keep track of all the progress 
> > > data.
> > 
> > Why not a single daemon which spawns a thread for each new program, ala
> > sshd (although iirc sshd forks)?
> >
> I don't think I was clear here: the daemon would be started in the _user's_
> name (including root, if root started it (perhaps it should drop that?)),
> once each time the _user_ invokes such a command. i.e. if a user said
>  emerge -uvD world
> emerge would start, and then it would start a progress daemon. Child processes
> of emerge would use the same daemon. I don't want to make a system-wide daemon
> because most systems' time is not spent with the compiler (or whatever) 
> running
> 
> Or maybe you understood me and I don't understand you?

I understand what you're getting at now, it just took me a second or two. :) 

[snip gkrellm stuff]
[snip 05:30 Cooper being a smartass]
> > > Also, progress information does not have to be limited to a percentage 
> > > (though 
> > > that is required). The information could contain many things, like 
> > > compiler 
> > > command lines, warnings, errors, einfos etc.
> > 
> > This is the line item requirement I would drive a truck through, if I
> > were a customer/user. :)  
> I think i did not properly articulate myself here either: What I meant was 
> that 
> in addition to the subtask count and subtask completion count, a client could 
> send lots of other data, too.
> 
> Or, again, perhaps you understand me, and I do not understand you.

Sorry, I spend a lot of time focusing in on customer vagueness and nailing
it down.  If you don't nail it down, you get 15 great 'ideas' that are
'easy' to add two weeks before the delivery date, and contractually, you
would have to do it, if you didn't force them to restrict scope in the
beginning.  

In short, I understood what you were saying, I was just "highlighting an
area needing further clarification", albeit colorfully. :)

> > > Please let me know what you think.
> > 
> > This idea has been floated many times before, with little success. 
> Darn.

Well, the compile time prediction idea has had little success.  
 
> > Not 
> > to rain on the idea.  :)  The problem is much more complicated than it
> > initially looks.  For insight, take a look at the section in
> > linuxfromscratch regarding SBUs (static bash units).  
> > 
> > http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/4.0/LFS-BOOK-4.0-HTML/chapter02/aboutsbus.html
> I'm not looking to estimate the time left. I realize that that's impossible.

Not impossible.  Just that the potential gains are not worth the work
involved to implement.  

With the adoption of the 2.6.x kernels, it's not as critical for most 
users to know how long something will take.  For me personally, I never 
watch the 'emerge -uDav world' process.  I start it on 4 machines, get a 
cup of coffee, and proceed with normal computer use.  It doesn't 
interfere with user interaction at all, so I don't care if it takes 2 
hours or 2.5.  Just let me know when it's finished.

> > Personally, I would do less planning and more writing, some of the best
> > projects started off as a hack to scratch an itch.  Keep it simple.  A
> > lot of the most useful programs out there are very small.  It can always
> > be rewritten later to include TCP/IP or threads.
> Yeah, I just wanted to make sure the idea wasn't stupid.

Now that I understand you're not trying to predict compile times, it
seems much more feasible.  However, I would most likely not use it
simply because it doesn't solve a problem I have.  Others opinions are
certainly valid also.  Is it worth pursuing?  Well, if it solves a
problem _you_ have, go for it.  That's all that really matters.

If you find it useful, most likely others will too.

Cooper.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Athlon 64 Mobo Recommendations

[Karl Huysmans]

If you want S-ATA raid, absolutely have a look at Areca controllers. We
run a 24x S-ATA 250 GB disk system on Intel 7501 dual Xeon board, and
had quite some trouble with the 2 3Ware 9500-12 controllers under 2.6
kernel, from lock-ups to file corruption.  

Recently replaced the 3Ware controllers with 3 Areca 8 port controllers,
and the server is running absolutely stable under very heavy load. And
whatever anyone may say or benchmark, the Areca's are a lot faster.
Subsequent bonnie++ benchmarks report over 220 MB/s write, over 280 MB/s
read for a singel controller in RAID 5. Why loose half your capacity and
do RAID 10 ...

Never got the 3Wares in RAID 5 over 100 MB/s read write under kernel
2.6, whatever tweaking I tried. Was a lot better with 2.4 though, but no
go for my system because of the kernel's 2TB limit.
 
I plan to build a new server now, it is definitely going to be Tyan K8S
+ Areca controllers, probably the same 24x S-ATA system with 250 GB
disks, or a 16x S-ATA system with 400 GB disks. And the exisiting server
is also going to be upgraded to 64 bit. 

On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 20:45 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >It's time for a new computer and I'm interested in folks thoughts about
> >motherboards for Athlon 64 CPUs.  I intend to use SATA RAID1 via a 3ware
> >card.  The machine will be used for a workstation as well as a server
> >that I use to store applications to be installed on other workstations,
> >as well as disk images.  It will also be acting as a WINS server for
> >about 170 windoze boxen, and will be running Gentoo (of course!).  The
> >workstation duties will be fairly light, and I'm looking for something
> >that's good at kicking out lots of data to other workstations.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Dennis
> >  
> >
> tyan mobo work veeery well here, it also has a 3ware 8006 with 4 disk in 
> a raid 10 configuration.
> recently one disk of the raid has crashed, and 3ware has show very bad 
> in rebuild the array with a new disk (google for it).
> Read performances for a raid 10 are teorically 400% but I've measured 
> them not to be more than 200% here.
> I can assure that adaptec PATA raid are worst, and never tryed promise
> have a good choice
> 
> francesco
> 
> 
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[gentoo-user] safer shell script

[Covington, Chris]

All,

I've been testing out anomy-saniziter / Postfix on a test system with
this script:

SENDMAIL="/usr/lib/sendmail -i"
ANOMY=/usr/share/anomy-sanitizer
ANOMY_CONF=/usr/share/anomy-sanitizer/anomy.conf
ANOMY_LOG=/var/log/sanitizer.log

export ANOMY

# Exit codes from 
EX_TEMPFAIL=75
EX_UNAVAILABLE=69

cat | $ANOMY/bin/sanitizer.pl $ANOMY_CONF 2>>$ANOMY_LOG \
| $SENDMAIL "$@" || \
{ echo Message content rejected; exit $EX_UNAVAILABLE; }

exit 0

but I noticed one of the logrotation scripts didn't create proper
permissions on /var/log/sanitizer.log so the end result was blank
emails.  How can I work around this problem by modifying the
content-filter script to check the permissions / existence of
$ANOMY_CONF and exit if the permissions are wrong instead?  I suck at
shell scripting.

Chris

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: encrypt with smime.p7s

[Tony Boom]

Hello Qiangning,

Tuesday, February 1, 2005, 5:11:59 PM, you wrote:

QH> Do I really need a certificate?  I was thinking the other's public key 
QH> ought to be sufficient.

You can get a free personal certificate here http://www.thawte.com/

If you look you'll see all my posts are MIME signed.

You can also get a Verisign certificate but they last 3 months and cost
after that I think.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problemas na inicialização do Gentoo

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Cesar ha scritto:
Olá Pessoal,
Estou com algum problema na inicialização do Gentoo_r6. Tudo começou 
da seguinte forma: atualizei a árvore portage como o comando: # emerge 
--sync e depois atualizei os pacotes instalados com o comando: # 
emerge --update --deep --newuse world

Quando fui reiniciar a máquina deparei com o seguinte erro na 
inicialização:

INIT: Id "c1" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c2" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c3" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c4" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c5" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c6" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
Será que alguém pode me ajudar (help)...
Obrigado.
probably your glibc are messed up, you need to boot from a rescue cd 
copy from your rescue cd

/lib/libc.so.6
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (follow the symlinks)
at least, then try to reboot.
buona sorte
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Re: [gentoo-user] Secure a gentoo server

[Kevin Philp]

If you are looking to secure a home machine, a few things worth doing:

USERS
Don't let them use root, disable shell access, make yourself a member of the 
wheel group so only you can use su.

INTERNET
To protect yourself from snoopers on the internet and assuming you have no 
services you wish to expose, set up iptables to drop any packets from sources 
you did not instigate. So your input and forward tables are set up as

DROP   all  --  anywhere anywhere   state INVALID,NEW

This is a very simple and very effective firewall.

ANTI VIRUS
Look at clamav. You can integrate it into mail system and update daily. I have 
used it for a couple of years and its very good. I have NEVER seen a linux 
virus but I dutifully virus scan all my mail anyway.

GENERAL
Have a look at the Bastille script. It runs through security checks on your 
system and explains what each involves. Nessus is another possibility. 
Disable any service you don't need, use  nmap -sT -O localhost to see what 
you have open. Finally get yourself a decent backup strategy... hardware 
failure worries me much more than hackers or virus's.

Kevin.




On Tuesday 1 February 2005 16:39, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
>On February 1, 2005 09:03 am, Tamas Sarga wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, myang wrote:
>> > Where should I begin from? What should I do to secure my system?
>> >
>> > MF
>>
>> There is a good doc on gentoo.org:
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml
>>
>> You should read some docs on iptables.org, they have a good
>> tutorial.
>>
>> And my 0.02$. Do not give shell account but who really needs it and
>> who can handle the responsibility of it (not use $PASSW=$USER, not
>> note the password to a yellow sticky paper, and so on). Shell
>> account is a very sensitive thing.
>
>100% with you. But it looks like we're speaking of home machine so I
>don't think shell accounts apply here.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Convert Perl util to C.

[Billy Holmes]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I've heard rumors that you can actually make a binary of a perl script.  
(Then, you could run that binary on your non-Perl machine.)  But, I have 
no knowlege in that area.
man perlcc
You should also follow some of the proper perl coding techniques.. such 
as "use strict", and making sure your variables are initialized.

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[gentoo-user] OT: encrypt with smime.p7s

[Qiangning Hong]

I received an email from one of my work partners with a attachment named 
smime.p7s.  He want me to reply an encrypted letter using this public 
key.  I have no certificates currently and thunderbird disallow me to 
use the "Security/Encrypt This Message" option of the compose window. 
Do I really need a certificate?  I was thinking the other's public key 
ought to be sufficient.

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[gentoo-user] cachefs: anyone use it?

[Jonathan Nichols]

I believe that it's part of the kernel now, right?
Is anyone using cachefs at all?
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Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin failing after update!

[Scott Taylor]

On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 11:07 -0500, Nicholas Pappas wrote:
>   The first time I ran 'sa-learn' after deleting the directory, 
> everything was find.  I got the message again the next night though. 
> But, through some weird twist of fate, the message is no longer 
> appearing and a lot of spam I had been seeing is now being captured again.

I'd left this note to myself in the script I called my daily sa-learn
from (when I was still using the old db file):

# I kept wondering why spamassassin wasn't using the bayes filter...
chown virtual:virtual /var/virtual/.spamassassin/bayes*
chmod 644 /var/virtual/.spamassassin/bayes*

Those files kept getting owned by root since thats who I ran the
teaching script as, but when the mail was being delivered, spamassassin
was run with the recipients uid/gid which obviously wasn't able to
modify the root-owned bayes data files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Convert Perl util to C.

[Qian Qiao]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:16:59 +0200, David Harel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to convert a Perl util to C so I can run it on non-Perl machine.
> I do not know Perl (Hopefully never will).

You'll be looking for perlcc, I think.

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[gentoo-user] Problemas na inicialização do Gentoo

[Cesar]

Olá Pessoal,
Estou com algum problema na inicialização do Gentoo_r6. Tudo começou da 
seguinte forma: atualizei a árvore portage como o comando: # emerge 
--sync e depois atualizei os pacotes instalados com o comando: # emerge 
--update --deep --newuse world

Quando fui reiniciar a máquina deparei com o seguinte erro na inicialização:
INIT: Id "c1" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c2" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c3" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c4" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c5" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "c6" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
Será que alguém pode me ajudar (help)...
Obrigado.
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Re: [gentoo-user] List miscellaneaous - bounces

[Sebastian Flothow]

Am 1. Feb 2005 um 01:48 Uhr schrieb Nick Rout:
if anyone knows off the top of their head where to report this let me 
know!
The mail headers contain this one:
List-Help: 
Sebastian
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> Why is top posting frowned upon?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Secure a gentoo server

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On February 1, 2005 09:03 am, Tamas Sarga wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, myang wrote:
> > Where should I begin from? What should I do to secure my system?
> >
> > MF
>
> There is a good doc on gentoo.org:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml
>
> You should read some docs on iptables.org, they have a good
> tutorial.
>
> And my 0.02$. Do not give shell account but who really needs it and
> who can handle the responsibility of it (not use $PASSW=$USER, not
> note the password to a yellow sticky paper, and so on). Shell
> account is a very sensitive thing.

100% with you. But it looks like we're speaking of home machine so I 
don't think shell accounts apply here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Secure a gentoo server

[Tamas Sarga]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, myang wrote:

>
> Where should I begin from? What should I do to secure my system?
>
> MF
>

There is a good doc on gentoo.org:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml

You should read some docs on iptables.org, they have a good tutorial.

And my 0.02$. Do not give shell account but who really needs it and who
can handle the responsibility of it (not use $PASSW=$USER, not note the
password to a yellow sticky paper, and so on). Shell account is a very
sensitive thing.

HTH.
Cheers,
Tamas Sarga
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Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin failing after update!

[Nicholas Pappas]

James Colannino wrote:
Nicholas Pappas wrote:
After a recent 'emerge --update world' I start receiving this message
every night after my 'sa-learn' cron entry runs:
bayes: bayes db version 0 is not able to be used, aborting! at
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm
line 160.
Were you ever able to figure this out?  I don't want to update from 2.64 
to 3 until I know of a fix that will work.  Thanks in advance :)
	I am not sure if I fixed it or not, to be honest.  I no longer receive 
the error message, but I do not recall doing anything between the last 
error e-mail I got (from cron) and when I noticed I was no longer 
getting that mail.
	One thing I did that may have had an effect was that I simply deleted 
my .spamassassin directory and started over.  My server was a more 
recent install and I actually still had all my spam in the "uncaught" 
directory, so I could pick up right where I left off.
	The first time I ran 'sa-learn' after deleting the directory, 
everything was find.  I got the message again the next night though. 
But, through some weird twist of fate, the message is no longer 
appearing and a lot of spam I had been seeing is now being captured again.
	*shrug* :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[John Myers]

A clarification:
I'm not talking about time estimation here. What I'm talking about is
having each provider provide a minimum of two pieces of data: the
number of subtasks it will run, and the number of subtasks which 
have been completed.

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 02:47, Jason Cooper wrote:
> John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > 1) eprogress progress providers (clients?) (perhaps through some sort of 
> > libeprogressc). These are programs like emerge, make, gcc, etc. which have 
> > some sort of goal, and can report on their progress. They would need to be 
> > patched to provide the system with the progress information.
> 
> I would advise against any development path that required patching many
> different projects.  There would be a lot of resistance.  This also
> seems to be passing off the crux of the problem (determining length of
> compile time) to the developers of make/gcc/ldd etc.  See BUs, below.

I almost forgot my (partial) solution to that: For some of the programs (gcc
especially), one can write a wrapper which calls GCC and collects its output,
possibly supressing it from the console, and passes it up to the framework
> 
> > 2) eprogressd (one for each master task, i.e. if you had an emerge and some 
> > other make running at the same time, they would be kept separated). the 
> > eprogressd would run in the background and keep track of all the progress 
> > data.
> 
> Why not a single daemon which spawns a thread for each new program, ala
> sshd (although iirc sshd forks)?
I don't think I was clear here: the daemon would be started in the _user's_
name (including root, if root started it (perhaps it should drop that?)),
once each time the _user_ invokes such a command. i.e. if a user said
 emerge -uvD world
emerge would start, and then it would start a progress daemon. Child processes
of emerge would use the same daemon. I don't want to make a system-wide daemon
because most systems' time is not spent with the compiler (or whatever) running

Or maybe you understood me and I don't understand you?
> 
> > 3) eprogress viewers which communicate with eprogressd to display a 
> > representation of the progress data. There could be any number of 
> > interchangeable viewers, some for console, some for X11. Some may be 
> > specialized to a particular task (such as a special one for emerges), but 
> > all 
> > would use the same protocol to talk to the eprogressd, which would be kept 
> > generic (there could (should?) be some sort of libeprogressviewer to help 
> > with this)
> 
> gkrellm?
a plugin to gkrellm could be one of the several viewers. I do, however, want to 
write at least console and full-blown graphical viewers
> 
> > I would suggest that the system should use UNIX domain sockets or TCP/IP 
> > sockets for the communication, especially TCP/IP for the viewer connection. 
> > It should not be necessary for the viewer to reside on the same machine as 
> > the daemon. Nor, for that matter, should it be necessary for individual 
> > tasks 
> > to be performed on the same machine.
> 
> Good idea, but there is no need to suggest, it's your project :)
I guess you're right... I mostly put it in there to see if it was stupid.

> > Also, progress information does not have to be limited to a percentage 
> > (though 
> > that is required). The information could contain many things, like compiler 
> > command lines, warnings, errors, einfos etc.
> 
> This is the line item requirement I would drive a truck through, if I
> were a customer/user. :)  
I think i did not properly articulate myself here either: What I meant was that 
in addition to the subtask count and subtask completion count, a client could 
send lots of other data, too.

Or, again, perhaps you understand me, and I do not understand you.

> 
> > Please let me know what you think.
> 
> This idea has been floated many times before, with little success. 
Darn.

> Not 
> to rain on the idea.  :)  The problem is much more complicated than it
> initially looks.  For insight, take a look at the section in
> linuxfromscratch regarding SBUs (static bash units).  
> 
> http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/4.0/LFS-BOOK-4.0-HTML/chapter02/aboutsbus.html
I'm not looking to estimate the time left. I realize that that's impossible.

> Personally, I would do less planning and more writing, some of the best
> projects started off as a hack to scratch an itch.  Keep it simple.  A
> lot of the most useful programs out there are very small.  It can always
> be rewritten later to include TCP/IP or threads.
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure the idea wasn't stupid.

> Good luck! 
Thanks!

I have lots of other ideas too, by the way, but I think I'll focus on this one
for now.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Secure a gentoo server

[Dmitry S. Makovey]

On February 1, 2005 08:06 am, myang wrote:
> I began to worry about my own gentoo box. Basically, I am a layman
> of linux so far. I am running Apache, openssh, postfix and mysql
> service here. I don't know a little about system security. Now I'd
> like to begin to learn something and do something to protect
> myself.
>
> Where should I begin from? What should I do to secure my system?

Since you've asked "where to start?" here it goes...
First step is always: "take unneeded systems off public IP/ports" 
meaning that you probably don't expose your mysql and postfix for 
external clients thus running them bound to 127.0.0.1 is a good idea. 
Next don't install packages you don't need or don't plan to use in 
nearest time. Next harden your firewall rules (either on broadband 
router you use or on machine itself - even better on both) which 
means use "deny" by default and open ports only to aplications you 
use and know about. Next keep your system up-to-date (man glsa-check) 
and keep an eye on advisories from securityfocus.com or any other 
security source - usualy their advisories are descriptive enough to 
patch your system on your own or at least to know where to start 
pluggin'. Just remember that it's a matter of time when somebody will 
try to break into your system hanging out open in internet.

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Re: [gentoo-user] List miscellaneaous - bounces

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:48:01 +1300 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| is anyone else getting bounces from
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] when they post here?
| 
| if anyone knows off the top of their head where to report this let me
| know!

Our mailing list people are cybersystem and dmwaters (or anyone else in
infra if you're really desperate, but that's probably not a good idea).
If I get a bounce for this I'll give them a prod.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[John Myers]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 01:20, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> It's a good idea, but you should choose a different name. there is already
> a script called eprogress floating around the forums. 

Darn. I just picked it to go along with the whole 'e-prefix' naming scheme.
But I will see what I can do. 

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[gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-dev] Time with Ramereth: autoconf / automake / libtool bunnies

[Jason Stubbs]

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Subject: [gentoo-dev] Time with Ramereth: autoconf / automake / libtool 
bunnies
Date: Tuesday 01 February 2005 23:34
From: Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gentoo Develop Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[some dev please forward this to gentoo-user]

it seems our new SLOT-ed ebuilds of autoconf / automake / libtool have users
confused.  'why does emerge want to install so many !?' you ask yourself
outloud.  the truth is, nothing has changed on your system, you just *think*
something is different.

the old ebuilds (autoconf-2.59-r5 / automake-1.8.5-r1 / libtool-1.5.2-r7)
actually downloaded and installed multiple versions of each package.  you
*thought* you had just one autoconf, but boy oh boy were you wrong !

in the future i'd like to make package maintainers be a little less lazy and
declare what version of autoconf / automake / libtool they wish to run in
their ebuilds so that, in the normal scheme of things, you only have the
versions installed on your system that you need ... perhaps a pipe dream, but
when you live with Ramereth, you need them :(
-mike

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[gentoo-user] Secure a gentoo server

[myang]

Yesterday, my friend's server got cracked. The cracker planted Rootedoor
Trojan on his server and deleted quite some important files from the
system. Now he is crazy for finding out other abnormal and recovering 
everything.

I began to worry about my own gentoo box. Basically, I am a layman of
linux so far. I am running Apache, openssh, postfix and mysql service here. I
don't know a little about system security. Now I'd like to begin to
learn something and do something to protect myself. 

Where should I begin from? What should I do to secure my system? 

MF

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RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

[Dave Nebinger]

> eprogress - a general-purpose hierarchical progress reporting system

Oh, so you mean something like
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Watch_emerge_progress but hacked into the
compiling subsystem?



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Re: [gentoo-user] recursive boot wymlinks WAS gentoo install problem / grub

[cifroes]

Leiaz wrote:
You're right. My boot partition is FAT32. Thanks for the explanation.
Laetitia
Mine is ext2... but it works, so that's all i need :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] solving init.d problem

[David Corbin]

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 05:20 am, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 22:05, David Corbin wrote:
> > Today, when I booted, I got one red !! from the init.d script. Now, I
> > know how I can try to figure out what's going, but I'd like to know the
> > "proper Gentoo" way.  Is the output or errors from this script logged
> > somewhere?
>
> I don't know about the "gentoo" way but isn't it everything logged into
> /var/log/messages ?

Hardly.  Certainly some applications may log something, but not everything.  
And, init.d scripts themselves as nears as I can tell do not specifically log 
anything via syslog.

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Re: [gentoo-user] E-Mailing the result of emerge -upv world

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:22:48 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

> Well, Neil did say that he felt that was too much information (he only 
> wants the notification for packages he has installed, not for ones he 
> doesn't). I'd like to mention, though, that having the full output can 
> disclose some handy apps that one didn't know about but would find 
> useful to install. It's happened to me several times that I was checking
> the updated programs list (either via esync or on packages.gentoo.org, 
> and investigated an application with an interesting name, and found 
> something I wanted.

I have the RSS feed from packages.gentoo.org running in Kticker, so that
takes care of seeing what's new. It all depends on what you want. I just
wanted to be able to see what needed upgrading on several machines, so
mailing the output of emerge -uD world suits me best. I can understand
that others would rather see the output from esync.


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