Re: [gentoo-user] DistCC + Portage Questions

[Philip Lawatsch]

Nick Rout wrote:
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:27:59 +0100
Philip Lawatsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This will for sure work but is definitely not what I intend. Simply 
"overriding" gcc by symlinking it to distcc is not what I want.

Thats exactly what distcc does, it puts a gcc wrapper in the PATH ahead of gcc. I was merely trying to establish if distcc was working. OTOH if it works, then it will solve your problem until we find the real answer.
Really?
I do have the impressions that distcc should be used instead of gcc and 
use kind of a patch attack against gcc :)
Anyway, it works if i make sure that the gcc in $PATH being used is a 
symlink to gcc.

Its just strange that emerge does not do this for me.
It looks to me like a problem with emerge not setting the PATH properly when compiling, so it gets to the real gcc before the wrapper. Take a look in /etc/env.d and see if it all looks fine.
-8<
# This file is managed by distcc-config; use it to change these settings.
DISTCC_LOG=""
DCCC_PATH="/usr/lib/distcc/bin"
DISTCC_VERBOSE="0"
8<
Is in 02distcc.
Starting to wonder why its called DCCC_PATH and not DISTCC_PATH ...
I'd like 
to let emerge do this work for me. 

Look I don't have a magic answer, i am just trying to help work out the problem. Perhaps you should email Lisa Seelye direct - she is the gentoo distcc maintainer, or else the gentoo-dev list may be able to offer some help.
Will give it a try, and I do know that you're trying to help and I also 
do appreciate it!

As I said, if i manually use distcc 
it works.

Also I doubt that a package can "disable" distcc if it does not use 
something advanced to check for the real gcc. If you just disable 
parallel make you wont automagically stop distcc from being used afair.

Yes I guess that is true, but then how do you know distcc is being used with -j1, with the -j1 being set by the package (or perhaps the ebuild). An ebuild could also presumably over ride FEATURES
Yes, it could override it but none of the ones I tried did override it.

I'd like to know why emerge itself does not use distcc even though I 
tell it to by setting features to distcc.


me too. what versions of distcc and gcc?
gcc
 [  I] 3.3.5-r1 (3.3)
 sys-devel/distcc :
[  I] 2.16-r2 (0)
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update ERROR

[Helder Lima]

Ok it works!
Thank you


On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:18:20 -0500, James Hiscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just ran into this myself, and it looks as though somebody mangled
> /usr/portage/eclass/eutils.eclass, by leaving it like this:
> 
> if [ $CROSSCOMPILE -eq 1 ]
> then
> else
> ...
> fi
> 
> ...which isn't valid. I just added the following line:
> 
> echo -n ""
> 
> ...between the "then" and "else" (on a line by itself), and it appears
> to have fixed the problem (for now )
> 
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 00:04:09 +, Helder Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  When run emerge --update world, i get the some errors:
> > Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> > >>> emerge (1 of 38) sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1 to /
> > /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: /usr/portage/eclass/eutils.eclass:
> > line 39: syntax error near unexpected token `else'
> > /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: /usr/portage/eclass/eutils.eclass:
> > line 39: `  else'
> >
> > !!! ERROR: sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1 failed.
> > !!! Function inherit, Line 1320, Exitcode 1
> > !!! died sourcing /usr/portage/eclass/eutils.eclass in inherit()
> > !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
> > message.
> >
> > How solve this problem?
> > I'm running gentoo linux with 2.6.10 kernel(development source)
> > --
> > Atenciosamente
> > Helder Fábio Santos Lima
> > linux User 372369
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
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[gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

[Tibor Liktor]

Hi,

I have a machine, where mplayer plays an online radio. But I also have
gaim, xchat and evolution, and it would be nice, when I have a message,
the application will chime.

How could I share the sound resources between different apps?

I will thank every hint.

Best,
Tibor


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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

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Tibor Liktor wrote:
> How could I share the sound resources between different apps?
You need a sound daemon, the most popular are esound and arts.
The programs you mentioned don't sound like you are using KDE, so I suggest
you choose esound.

Do
# emerge esound
# /etc/init.d/esound start
# rc-update add default esound
as root.

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[gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Admin]

 Hi,

 I'm a beginner in gentoo. I use it on office's laptop which is toshiba
 satellite 4080xcdt. This is not very fast machine with not very big hdd. I
 didn't have any special problems using freeBSD, but I had to change it to
 linux due to some conditions (*). Firstly during first days of Gentoo work
I
 had to remove framebuffer from kernel because when I left it in console
mode
 (there was no X installed) screensaver was blocking the display. I had to
 make hard reset every time. (Right, what part of kernel is responsible for
 this screensaver) Because work in standard vga console is not what one
wants
 to work I installed Gnome. It was very slow and to my surprise I could not
 jump to console mode (jut typically alt+ctrl+Fn didn't work), there was
just
 only X. I think there should be some X settings to change but I'm not very
 keen on it. So I've decided to uninstall gnome and install XFCE4. But still
 I can't jump to console mode and screensaver blocks my keyboard now. What
to
 do next? I'd like to change XFree86 but I don't know if 500mb of free space
 is enough.
 xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1
 linux-2.4.26-gentoo-r11

 Br,

 Arek


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Re: [gentoo-user] simple backups

[Andreas Vinsander]

Nick Smith wrote:
well what is the difference between rsync and rdiff-backup if the latter
is based on rsync? was there something added?
Yep, it handles incremental backups and allows you to restore backups 
from a certain date, more like a real backup system than plain rsync.

More info at:
http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Thomas Schorr]

Hi,

On Friday 04 February 2005 10:46, Admin wrote:
>  Hi,
...
>  to work I installed Gnome. It was very slow and to my surprise I could not
>  jump to console mode (jut typically alt+ctrl+Fn didn't work), there was
> just
...

from /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

-start
# Uncomment this to disable the  VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#Option "DontVTSwitch"
-end

make shure there is a comment in front of this option.

>  Br,
>
>  Arek
>
regards,

Thomas

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[gentoo-user] Bugday reminder!

[Bryan Ãstergaard]

Hi all.

It's that time of month again where we all meet in #gentoo-bugs on
irc.freenode.net to solve bugs and have a great time.

As usual bugday is held the first saturday of the month, so I'm hoping
to meet a lot of you tomorrow :)

Regards,
Bryan Ãstergaard

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo 2004.3 What happened to Stage 2?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:13:52 +0800 Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Just wondering how come Stage 2 went missing in the universal CD?
| 
| I had to install from Stage 3 instead.

We didn't include stage2s on the CDs since they're pointless and take up
a lot of space. You can download it separately from the mirrors.

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Re: [gentoo-user] E-Mailing the result of emerge -upv world

[Botykai Zsolt]

-= Eredeti üzenet (Original message) =-
Dátum (Date): Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:49:46 -0500
Küldő (From): Nick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Címzett (To): Gentoo List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tárgy (Subject): Re: [gentoo-user] E-Mailing the result of emerge -upv world


> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 11:03 +0100, Botykai Zsolt wrote:
> > > I was looking for a script that will sync the portage tree and send by 
> > > email the list of softwares that to be updated automatically. I did not 
> > > find so during the last weekend and borrowed some codes from few sites 
> > > on the Internet and build it.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm usin something foud someshere on the forums or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > earlier:
> > crontab entry:
> >   4523  *   *   1-6 /root/bin/ESEF.sh
> > 
> > /root/bin/ESEF.sh
> > #!/bin/bash
> > #update from script
> > function emerge_sync {
> >  emerge sync -q --nospinner &> /dev/null && echo "Portage Tree synced."
> >  emerge -upDv --nospinner --newuse world | sed -e
> > "s|dependencies.*\.\.\.|depend encies \.\.\.|g"
> >  sleep 15s
> >  emerge --nospinner --newuse -uDf world &> /dev/null && echo "Packages
> >  mostly
> > do wnloaded."
> >  /usr/sbin/eupdatedb.cron &> /dev/null && echo "Eupdatedb finished."
> >  echo "Done!"
> > }
> > 
> > senddate=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %T")
> > echo "Nightly Sync ($senddate)" > /root/nstemp
> > emerge_sync >> /root/nstemp
> > cat /root/nstemp | nail -s "ESEF.log"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > rm /root/nstemp
> > 
> will that actually do the emerge or just show you the packages that need
> to be upgraded?
-= Eredeti üzenet vége (End of original message) =-

it will - hopefully sync, then download the upgradeable packages.

Zsoltik@

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Friday 04 February 2005 10:40, Tibor Liktor wrote:

> How could I share the sound resources between different apps?


Since all sound demons suck, you should google for 'dmix'. It is an alsa 
plugin and very usefull.

There is a nice guide on the alsa-project.org site. 

Glück Auf
Volker

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: console only web browsing

[David Dorward]

Steven Susbauer wrote:
Not sure if lynx supports HTTPS, I've always had problems with it...
Lynx does, but it isn't always compiled in.
On two different systems I use:
$ lynx -version
Lynx Version 2.8.5dev.16 (01 Jun 2003)
libwww-FM 2.14, SSL-MM 1.4.1, OpenSSL 0.9.7a
Built on linux-gnu Jul  8 2004 06:52:04
# lynx -version
Lynx Version 2.8.4rel.1 (17 Jul 2001)
Built on linux-gnu Dec 11 2002 12:33:02
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Admin]

Hi,

it is commented. I've thought it is a keyboard layout, but ctrl+alt+bksp
works :(

Br,

Arek


> Hi,
>
> On Friday 04 February 2005 10:46, Admin wrote:
> >  Hi,
> ...
> >  to work I installed Gnome. It was very slow and to my surprise I could
not
> >  jump to console mode (jut typically alt+ctrl+Fn didn't work), there was
> > just
> ...
>
> from /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
>
> -start
> # Uncomment this to disable the  VT switch sequence
> # (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
> # events.
>
> #Option "DontVTSwitch"
> -end
>
> make shure there is a comment in front of this option.
>
> >  Br,
> >
> >  Arek
> >
> regards,
>
> Thomas
>
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: console only web browsing

[David Dorward]

Kashani wrote:
I've always used lynx which seems decent enough, though annoying as 
I expect any console web browser might be. Are any of them, w3m, links, 
elinks, amaya, etc better interface and navigation-wise?
That's a matter of opinion. Try them and see. (Amaya isn't a console 
browser though). I generally use lynx if I want a text browser. On the 
other hand, framebuffer, gpm and Links can give you a graphical browser 
running at a high resolution (I've run it at 1600x1200), with mouse 
control but without needing X.

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[gentoo-user] Prelink exits with 1 ( a crash ? ). What do I do ?

[Ivan Yosifov]

Hi Guys,

It appears prelink has simply stopped working for me. It exits with 1
and does not print any error messages.

localhost ~ # prelink -vmahfR
localhost ~ # echo $?
1
localhost ~ # prelink -fva
localhost ~ # echo $?
1
localhost ~ # prelink -va
localhost ~ # echo $?
1
localhost ~ # prelink --version
prelink 1.0
localhost ~ # echo $?
0

What  does exitcode 1 mean ?  How do I make it work again ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Package.Mask / Do Not Upgrade "these" packages

[Holly Bostick]

Ow Mun Heng wrote:
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 18:36, Heinz Sporn wrote:
Hi!
Lots of confusion out there ;-)
Question: when did you perform your last emerge sync?
2 days ago.
squid-2.4.7.ebuild:KEYWORDS="x86 ppc sparc alpha mips hppa"
squid-2.5.5-r3.ebuild:KEYWORDS="x86 ppc sparc alpha hppa ~ia64 s390
amd64 ppc64"
squid-2.5.6-r3.ebuild:KEYWORDS="x86 amd64 alpha ppc sparc hppa ppc64
mips"
squid-2.5.7-r5.ebuild:KEYWORDS="alpha amd64 hppa ia64 ppc ppc64 sparc
x86"
Hmm... Is the reason for the upgrade/downgrade because there's no more
2.5.7-r2 in the ebuilds??

Yes. Current stable version is 2.5.7-r5, and 2.5.7-r2 does not exist in 
the main Portage tree any more (though you can get it from the attic).

So, since Portage does not know about this ebuild any more, you have to 
either upgrade or downgrade.

Since you don't want to upgrade to 2.5.7-r5, then you have no choice but 
to downgrade to 2.5.6-r3. Alternatively, you could mask (without quotes, 
natch)

>=www-proxy/squid-2.5.7-r5
to leave your current, unsupported, version as it is.
HTH,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] net.eth0

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hi,

in /etc/conf.d/net I have in alias_eth0 :
around ~20 aliases

alias_eth0="x.x.x.x .. y.y.72.0 y.y.73.0 y.y.74.0  x.x.x.x"

it creates these interfaces with netmask 255.255.0.0 and as consequense it
inserst a route to y.0.0.0/8 instead of three routes to these 3 networks..
any solution ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Package.Mask / Do Not Upgrade "these" packages

[Holly Bostick]

Holly Bostick wrote:
Not to reply to myself, but I might be a bit off:
Hmm... Is the reason for the upgrade/downgrade because there's no more
2.5.7-r2 in the ebuilds??

Yes. Current stable version is 2.5.7-r5, and 2.5.7-r2 does not exist in 
the main Portage tree any more (though you can get it from the attic).

So, since Portage does not know about this ebuild any more, you have to 
either upgrade or downgrade.

Since you don't want to upgrade to 2.5.7-r5, then you have no choice but 
to downgrade to 2.5.6-r3. Alternatively, you could mask (without quotes, 
natch)

 >=www-proxy/squid-2.5.7-r5
to leave your current, unsupported, version as it is.
You'd probably have to also mask
"<=www-proxy/squid-2.5.6-r3"
as well. Portage will complain, as it really does not want some unknown 
ebuild in the tree, but the only way around that would be to

go to the CVS attic (linked in another thread yesterday, or go to 
www.gentoo.org, find the link on the side that says "Browse online CVS" 
and go to the attic), find the ebuild for squid-2.5.7-r2, put it in your 
PORTDIR_OVERLAY directory, then digest and re-install it. Then the build 
will again be known to Portage, and you only need to mask the builds 
above it (rather than below it as well.

IMO, this seems a great deal of work to avoid upgrading a couple of -r 
versions, but it's your box.

Holly
HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Package.Mask / Do Not Upgrade "these" packages

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:35:06 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

> Yes. Current stable version is 2.5.7-r5, and 2.5.7-r2 does not exist in 
> the main Portage tree any more (though you can get it from the attic).

You can also get it from /var/db/pkg/cat-egory/package/. Copy it to your
portage overlay, you may need to enable this in make.conf, and portage
should be happy to stay with it. However, you should first find out why
this ebuild was removed for portage. It may not simply be because of its
age, there are older versions still there. From the changelog, it appears
that all updates since the version you have are for security bugs. If your
version has been removed because it is insecure, maybe you should consider
changing.

It is important to understand why the portage maintainers are trying to
force this change on you, rather than trying to kludge your way around it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
hi,
in /etc/conf.d/net I have in alias_eth0 :
around ~20 aliases
alias_eth0="x.x.x.x .. y.y.72.0 y.y.73.0 y.y.74.0  x.x.x.x"
it creates these interfaces with netmask 255.255.0.0 and as consequense it
inserst a route to y.0.0.0/8 instead of three routes to these 3 networks..
any solution ?
 

I'm not sure to understund your question, so I simply post one net.eth0 
config that has multiple aliases on multiple networks with multiple path ;)

modules=( "iproute2" )
ipaddr_eth0=(
   "192.168.1.100/24"
   "192.168.1.101/24"
   "192.168.1.102/24"
   "192.168.2.100/24"
   "192.168.2.101/24"
   "192.168.2.102/24"
   "192.168.3.100/24"
   "192.168.3.101/24"
   "192.168.3.102/24"
)
iproute_eth0=(   
   "to 192.168.21.0/24 via 192.168.2.1"
   "to 192.168.22.0/24 via 192.168.3.1"
   "default via 192.168.1.1"
)

you need to emerge sys-apps/iproute2 to make it work
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Admin]

On Friday 04 February 2005 10:26, Admin wrote:
>> ...to work I installed Gnome. It was very slow and to my surprise
>> I could not jump to console mode (jut typically alt+ctrl+Fn
>> didn't work) 

>Add this to Section "ServerFlags":
>Option "HandleSpecialKeys" "Always"

No, it doesn't work too. Maybe it is really good idea to install xfree86?

Thanks,

Arek


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: console only web browsing

[purslow]

050203 Steven Susbauer wrote:
> Not sure if lynx supports HTTPS, I've always had problems with it.

yes, if you set it up to do so.

> elinks also has GPM support, which again I'm not sure about in lynx.

yes, you can have Lynx use simple mouse clicks.

i've always used Lynx when i don't need a GUI browser
& it has loads of features, if you take the time to find out about them.
i realised -- just today -- that you can use its visited-links page
to emulate tabs to a certain extent.  numbered links are a great device.
its one big limitation is lack of any support for Javascript,
but often you can extract needed URLs from source-view, esp "pretty source".

> If nothing else, lynx can get you arrested (at least in the UK).

then it must be really good ... (big grin)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: console only web browsing

[purslow]

050204 David Dorward wrote:
> On two different systems I use:
> Lynx Version 2.8.5dev.16 (01 Jun 2003)
> Lynx Version 2.8.4rel.1 (17 Jul 2001)

they're rather out-of-date.  the latest version is 2.8.6dev.11 IIRC.
Lynx version numbers are misleading & Gentoo doesn't keep up properly:
other projects would call '2.8.6dev.11' '2.9.11' or something like that.
the 'dev' versions are usually very stable: i use 2.8.6dev.4 in  /usr/local ,
which never fails: i just haven't recompiled recently.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: console only web browsing

[David Dorward]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 07:11:15 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 050204 David Dorward wrote:
> > On two different systems I use:
> > Lynx Version 2.8.5dev.16 (01 Jun 2003)
> > Lynx Version 2.8.4rel.1 (17 Jul 2001)
 
> they're rather out-of-date.

Yes, they are, but they do the job for me. I'd upgrade if I needed a
newer version, or if I used it more often then I do now. :) The point
was simply to demonstrate that Lynx was SSL capable and how to check
if a given version had the support for it compiled in.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mgetty-1.1.30 emerge fails

[Aaron Walker]

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David Busby wrote:
| I'm getting this, what!?
|
| make[1]: Leaving directory
| `/var/tmp/portage/mgetty-1.1.30-r2/work/mgetty-1.1.30'
| --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY
| ---
| LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-net-dialup_-_mgetty-1.1.30-r2-27388.log"
|
| unlink:/usr/share/texmf/web2c/etex.log
| rename:/usr/share/texmf/web2c/etex.log
| unlink:/usr/share/texmf/web2c/etex.efmt
| rename:/usr/share/texmf/web2c/etex.efmt
| open_wr:   /usr/share/texmf/ls-R
| open_wr:   /usr/share/texmf/ls-R
| 

|
|
|
| Perms (i changed to full trying to get to go):
| Also these files didn't exist so I had to touch them first
|
| linux-00 / # ls -l /usr/share/texmf/web2c/
| -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 0 Feb  3 15:14 etex.efmt*
| -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 0 Feb  3 15:14 etex.log*
|
| linux-00 / # ls -l /usr/share/texmf
| -rw-rw-r--   1 root root 155737 Nov  4 06:30 ls-R
|
| Perms look OK?
|
Contrary to what it looks like, it has nothing at all to do with permissions.
The problem is that the mgetty build is trying to write outside of
${PORTAGE_TMPDIR} which is considered an access violation.  This is a bug, and
should be reported as such at http://bugs.gentoo.org/.  Make sure you do a
search first though, to make sure someone else hasn't already submitted one.
If you do end up submitting one, don't forget your emerge info.
HTH
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[gentoo-user] Afterstep via gdm

[Frank Schafer]

Hi all,

is there a possibility to start Afterstep via gdm?

After emerging fluxbox I could choose this as my window manager. After
emerging Afterstep nothing changes.
I've tried to put afterstep in my .xsessions and choose custom from gdm.
This brings up twm with the usual xterm.

Any hint?

Thanks in advance
Frank


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendations for consolefont

[Nick Smith]

> Alternatively, you can use svgatextmode, but this doesn't take effect 
> until the appropriate init script is run.
> 
well thats fine with me as long as my working area is a higher
resolution, how do you get svgatextmode to work?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Holly Bostick]

Admin wrote:
On Friday 04 February 2005 10:26, Admin wrote:
...to work I installed Gnome. It was very slow and to my surprise
I could not jump to console mode (jut typically alt+ctrl+Fn
didn't work) 

Add this to Section "ServerFlags":
Option "HandleSpecialKeys" "Always"
No, it doesn't work too. Maybe it is really good idea to install xfree86?
Thanks,
Arek

Not necessarily, but it may well be an idea to strip some "extras" out 
of X.org (such as composite, if you're trying to use it).

A Google search for the model number of your laptop gave me this hit:
http://www.kevinboone.com/linux_toshiba.html
Which is a how-to/tips and tricks for installing Linux (an old version 
of Mandrake) on this exact same laptop.

The relevant information I noticed on the page was:
"The Satellite 4080 has a Trident Cyber 9525 video chipset with 2 Mb of 
video RAM"

This is a very tiny amount of video RAM, and it also suggests that you 
don't have very much main RAM either. So no "full-featured desktop" like 
GNOME (no flames about just how "full-featured" GNOME is or is not, 
please) is going to be very fast at all. There's not really very much to 
be done about that, but of course this also depends on what your 
standards for speed are. I would definitely be considering fluxbox, 
icewm, WindowMaker, or (for an even lighter, but steeper learning curve 
desktop), Openbox or Waimea or Pekwm or something.

As for the lack of consoles, I would wonder two things:
1) why was it suggested to comment
# Uncomment this to disable the  VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.
#Option "DontVTSwitch"
-end
out? It would seem that if you actually want this functionality, you 
should *un*comment it. Am I missing something?

2) What is the status of these lines in /etc/inittab
# TERMINALS
c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
c2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
c3:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
c4:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
c5:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
c6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
Do you actually even have consoles available (i.e., do you have a getty 
installed, and are these lines which configure them uncommented)?

HTH,
Holly
make shure there is a comment in front of this option.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Thomas Schorr]

Hi,

On Friday 04 February 2005 14:13, Holly Bostick wrote:

> As for the lack of consoles, I would wonder two things:
>
> 1) why was it suggested to comment
>
> # Uncomment this to disable the  VT switch sequence
> # (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
> # events.
>
> #Option "DontVTSwitch"
> -end
>
> out? It would seem that if you actually want this functionality, you
> should *un*comment it. Am I missing something?

yes. if you don't want VTSwitch you have to remove the comment. If you want to 
switch, you have to put a comment, i.e. leave the default as it is. The 
comment in xorg.conf reads UNcomment to DISable.

I'm german and not always sure about english terms. But in my xorg.conf 
there's a comment, and I can switch:-)

Regards,

Thomas

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Holly Bostick]

Thomas Schorr wrote:
Hi,
On Friday 04 February 2005 14:13, Holly Bostick wrote:
As for the lack of consoles, I would wonder two things:
1) why was it suggested to comment
# Uncomment this to disable the  VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.
#Option "DontVTSwitch"
-end
out? It would seem that if you actually want this functionality, you
should *un*comment it. Am I missing something?
yes. if you don't want VTSwitch you have to remove the comment. If you want to 
switch, you have to put a comment, i.e. leave the default as it is. The 
comment in xorg.conf reads UNcomment to DISable.

I'm german and not always sure about english terms. But in my xorg.conf 
there's a comment, and I can switch:-)

You're right; I misread. It's always so weird to have a comment *enable* 
 something, rather than *dis*able it, I got confused.

Thanks.
Is it in any way possible that the inability to switch consoles is 
related to the extremely low video RAM? Could the settings for the 
console or framebuffer simply require too much memory to actually open 
the getty? Yes, it sounds weird to me too, but I really can't think of 
any other reason that the getty would not be available at all, short of 
not being installed or... commented out in /etc/inittab.

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

[Captain FantastiK]

Hi
I tried many times compiling xorg but it was always ending with the same 
error message:

...
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: ***[Xorg] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving Directory: 
'/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs/Xserver'
make[3]: ***[all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving Directory: 
'/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs'
make[2]: ***[all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
make[1]: ***[World] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
make:***[World] Error2

Here is the content of /etc/make.conf file:
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ftracer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
AUTOCLEAN="Yes"
CONFIG_PROTECT="-*"
USE="aalib acpi cdr codecs esd gnutls gtkhtml guile ruby hal hardened idea \
sasl sse static tcltk xine xinerama threads -quicktime -xmms"
Need Help here please!
Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Admin]

>
> Not necessarily, but it may well be an idea to strip some "extras" out
> of X.org (such as composite, if you're trying to use it).
>
So you think it is better to use X11 for slower machines?


> 2) What is the status of these lines in /etc/inittab
>
> # TERMINALS
> c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
> c2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
> c3:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
> c4:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
> c5:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
> c6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
>
> Do you actually even have consoles available (i.e., do you have a getty
> installed, and are these lines which configure them uncommented)?

Yes, you're right. There's no getty because I've removed fbgetty  due to the
problems.
Which one you propose to install?

Br,

Arek



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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

[Jason Cooper]

Captain FantastiK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I tried many times compiling xorg but it was always ending with the same 
> error message:
> 
> ...
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[4]: ***[Xorg] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving Directory: 
> '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs/Xserver'
> make[3]: ***[all] Error 2
> make[3]: Leaving Directory: 
> '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs'
> make[2]: ***[all] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
> make[1]: ***[World] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
> make:***[World] Error2

Need about 15 to 20 more lines above this... All that can be seen from
this is that you have a linker error.  Chances are you need to run
'fix_libtool_files.sh' with a version of gcc as an argument.  Run a
search of gentoo-user for that and it should explain how to use it.

hth,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Holly Bostick]

Admin wrote:

Not necessarily, but it may well be an idea to strip some "extras" out
of X.org (such as composite, if you're trying to use it).
So you think it is better to use X11 for slower machines?
No, mostly because XFree86 is no longer in the Portage tree, so you're 
only asking for trouble in the future if you get all attached to it now.

An X server is, at base, just an X server; it's not so much that XFree86 
is significantly different from X.org in the sense of being a "lesser" 
drain on a system. An X server of any flavor is going to be a heavy 
drain on a system with limited resources. However, X.org has additional 
overhead in the area of optional features that you may have enabled, 
which are not going to be of any use to you and may actually "hurt" you 
insofar as your system is trying to display things that it is not 
capable of due to the limited resources.

If you are going to run an X server, your best bet is to reduce the 
overhead of your desktop (by using the lightest possible desktop), so 
that what resources you have are free to be used by your programs, 
rather than the desktop itself. The necessity to draw desktop wallpaper, 
desktop icons, fancy window borders, and taskbars take up resources that 
you may not be able to spare, and definitely slow down your ability to 
actually accomplish something with the desktop (like opening a program, 
saving a file, etc).

2) What is the status of these lines in /etc/inittab
# TERMINALS
c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
c2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
c3:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
c4:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
c5:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
c6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
Do you actually even have consoles available (i.e., do you have a getty
installed, and are these lines which configure them uncommented)?
Yes, you're right. There's no getty because I've removed fbgetty  due to the
problems.
Which one you propose to install?
No proposal from me, sorry; I don't know anything about the specific 
features of the different gettys available (and never cared to explore), 
so I just take the default (which is, afaik, the above).

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0

[Kashani]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
in /etc/conf.d/net I have in alias_eth0 :
around ~20 aliases
alias_eth0="x.x.x.x .. y.y.72.0 y.y.73.0 y.y.74.0  x.x.x.x"
it creates these interfaces with netmask 255.255.0.0 and as consequense it
inserst a route to y.0.0.0/8 instead of three routes to these 3 networks..
any solution ?
You should also have these two lines in your /etc/conf.d/net
#broadcast_eth0="192.168.0.255 192.168.0.255"
#netmask_eth0="255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0"
Uncomment and do them in the same order as your aliases and then your 
networks will be setup correctly.

kashani
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[gentoo-user] OT: Gnome - Open in same window

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   Sorry for a Gnome question. does anyone know of a configurtion
trick in Gnome so that when browsing the filesystem the new directory
opens in the same on-screen window and not in a new one? It's driving
me nuts that when I go 8 levels down on my wife's machine that I end
up with 8 windows. It's a mess.

   Thanks in advance and sorry for the distraction.

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gnome - Open in same window

[David Dorward]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 06:42:37 -0800, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Sorry for a Gnome question. does anyone know of a configurtion
> trick in Gnome so that when browsing the filesystem the new directory
> opens in the same on-screen window and not in a new one? It's driving
> me nuts that when I go 8 levels down on my wife's machine that I end
> up with 8 windows. It's a mess.

Holding down Ctrl or Shift (I'm not sure which off the top of my head)
should do it. You could also look at the file browser option which
should give you a directory tree on the left and confine things to one
window. Or you can turn off Spatial Mode with the gnome regedit thingy
(Google should help you with that now you have that keyword).

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gnome - Open in same window

[Holly Bostick]

Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi,
   Sorry for a Gnome question. does anyone know of a configurtion
trick in Gnome so that when browsing the filesystem the new directory
opens in the same on-screen window and not in a new one? It's driving
me nuts that when I go 8 levels down on my wife's machine that I end
up with 8 windows. It's a mess.
   Thanks in advance and sorry for the distraction.
- Mark
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You can either:
1) change Nautilus to "browser" mode (the old way it used to do it), by 
opening it with the --browser switch, or setting it to browser mode in 
gconf-editor; or

2) if otherwise you don't mind spatial Nautilus, you can hold down the 
"Shift" key (I think; it might be CTRL, so check the menus or help) when 
clicking on a history link at the bottom corner of the window, or on a 
folder in the window. This causes the new folder to open in the same 
window rather than another one.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gnome - Open in same window

[Sebastian Dröge]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 06:42:37 -0800
Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>Sorry for a Gnome question. does anyone know of a configurtion
> trick in Gnome so that when browsing the filesystem the new directory
> opens in the same on-screen window and not in a new one? It's driving
> me nuts that when I go 8 levels down on my wife's machine that I end
> up with 8 windows. It's a mess.

look in gconf-editor unter /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser
if set to true it does exactly what you want: the pre-2.6 behauvior

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gnome - Open in same window

[Mark Knecht]

Thanks to everyone. All of these suggestions work fine. I switched
things for now using the gconf-editor suggestion and will see how it
works out.

cheers,
Mark


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:51:25 +0100, Sebastian Dröge
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 06:42:37 -0800
> Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >Sorry for a Gnome question. does anyone know of a configurtion
> > trick in Gnome so that when browsing the filesystem the new directory
> > opens in the same on-screen window and not in a new one? It's driving
> > me nuts that when I go 8 levels down on my wife's machine that I end
> > up with 8 windows. It's a mess.
> 
> look in gconf-editor unter /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser
> if set to true it does exactly what you want: the pre-2.6 behauvior
> 
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[gentoo-user] time not set ffrom hardware clock

[Martoni]

The hardware clock on my laptop is correct  - but the clock in KDE is
totally weird (wrong date/time).

I've done a brief scan of the forums, and can't find the right
solution. Any idea on how to fix this?


Regards,

Martin S

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Re: [gentoo-user] time not set ffrom hardware clock

[Morten Bo]

Well, can't you just use the command date? For further information
look up the handbook for details


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:20:47 +0100, Martoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The hardware clock on my laptop is correct  - but the clock in KDE is
> totally weird (wrong date/time).
> 
> I've done a brief scan of the forums, and can't find the right
> solution. Any idea on how to fix this?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Martin S
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Afterstep via gdm

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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Frank Schafer wrote:
| Hi all,
|
| is there a possibility to start Afterstep via gdm?
|
| After emerging fluxbox I could choose this as my window manager. After
| emerging Afterstep nothing changes.
| I've tried to put afterstep in my .xsessions and choose custom from gdm.
| This brings up twm with the usual xterm.
Make sure the session file is called .xsession (no "s" at the end) and
it has proper permissions (must be executable, e.g. chmod 755 xsession)
Then just insert the line you usually would enter at command prompt to
start afterstep into this file, choose "Custom Session" in GDM and
you're set (hopefully).
Regards,
Karsten
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Re: [gentoo-user] simple backups

[Maik Musall]

Just a note for all users in Germany on this topic: Charly Kühnasts
"sysadmin" article in the current german Linux-Magazin is about
rsnapshot.

Another tool to mention is unison, which serves me well since years,
also combining rsync and ssh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

[Damian Kolkowski]

* Captain FantastiK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-04 16:22]:
> CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ftracer"

Use this instead:
-O2 -march=pentium4 -formit-frame-pointer

Yours CFLAGS are wrong, You need to use onlu one (mcpu or marcg), the last one
are used.

P.S. fix_libtool_files.sh ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Bob Sanders]

> 
>  I'm a beginner in gentoo. I use it on office's laptop which is toshiba
>  satellite 4080xcdt. This is not very fast machine with not very big hdd. I
>  didn't have any special problems using freeBSD, but I had to change it to
>  linux due to some conditions (*). Firstly during first days of Gentoo work

You might want to look at - 

   http://fuzzymunchkin.dyndns.org/tdot/toshiba.php3  
   http://www.schamberger.org/linux/toshiba_satellite_4090_xcdt/
   http://homepages.compuserve.de/hbuennig/toshiba_sat4080.html

All three show the X config file they are using.

>  (there was no X installed) screensaver was blocking the display. I had to
>  make hard reset every time. (Right, what part of kernel is responsible for
>  this screensaver) 

Apparently the apm implementation on in the linux kernels isn't all that hot
for Toshibas.  But it did get much better in the 2.6 series of kernels.

Also, the above listed users seemed to have problems in X when they left
gpm running.  Though, that should work better with the 2.6 kernels.

>  I can't jump to console mode and screensaver blocks my keyboard now. What
> to
>  do next? I'd like to change XFree86 but I don't know if 500mb of free space
>  is enough.

So to be clear - this is xscreensvaer?  And not just DPMS?

There are real issues with some of the xscreensaver programs.  And on a system
with limited gfx memory, xscreensaver is proably not a wise choice.

If it's DPMS, then that's some kind of interaction between X, the kernel, and 
your
hardware.


>  xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1
>  linux-2.4.26-gentoo-r11
>

Seriously - I'd update to xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 and at least 2.6.9-r14.

Bob 
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[gentoo-user] [OT] Digital Information

[Grant]

This is off-topic, but I bet you guys can help me figure this out.

How does digital information (0 or 1, off or on) end up doing all the
stuff it does?  A link or explanation would be greatly appreciated.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] strange speeds

[Mike Noble]

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raptor wrote:
| hi,
|
| I have sysKonnect 1gb card integrated on the mobo after working
several hours I start to get
| slowdowns.. no errors in ifconfig, no reconfiguration of 1g... nothing
seems wrong,
| but the ping to this machine becomes from 8 ms to 200ms..
| I can feel the lag, download speed can become more than ~20-30 mbps
| any ideas what can be the problem
|
| lspci -v
| 02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Galileo Technology Ltd.: Unknown device
4320 (rev 13)
| Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology: Unknown device e000
| Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
| Memory at fb00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
| I/O ports at b800 [size=256]
| Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=128K]
| Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2
| Capabilities: [50] Vital Product Data
|
| when I test it with : watch -n1 cat /proc/interrupts
| I expect to see around ~1 irq/s (~120mb/s), but it tops ~2000 irq/s
| afaik when the card was in irq moderation mode it issues ~2000irq/s,
| so is there any chance that the card memorized the configuration
| and still act like it has to be moderated...?!?!
|
I have seen this kind of activity when using onboard ethernet.  This
is usually do to the fact that the onboard ethernet is cheap.
Giga-byte is an inexpensive ethernet card, while it will work it
will not guarantee you good speeds.  I personally like 3com cards.
You also mention download speeds, if you are talking to a web site,
there is a possibility that it is the cause of the slowdown or
something between your machine and the web site.  Unless your ISP
provides 1G speed (most do not) you are only looking at 10Mb.  You
have to remember that the speed of any ethernet card is what the card
can handle with a continuous steam of data with no errors.  Since under
most cases this is not the case, even with lets say 10Mb at best you
will only get 6-7Mb/sec (if you are lucky).
The best way to test your card is to have two machines on the same lan
and try transferring between the two machines and calculate the speed
that way.
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

[Captain FantastiK]

HI
I wanted know if  this compile error would be saved by portage on a log 
file?


cApTaiN_FaNtAsTiK


From: Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:04:59 -0500
Captain FantastiK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
>
> Hi
>
> I tried many times compiling xorg but it was always ending with the same
> error message:
>
> ...
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[4]: ***[Xorg] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving Directory:
> '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs/Xserver'
> make[3]: ***[all] Error 2
> make[3]: Leaving Directory:
> '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs'
> make[2]: ***[all] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
> make[1]: ***[World] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
> make:***[World] Error2
Need about 15 to 20 more lines above this... All that can be seen from
this is that you have a linker error.  Chances are you need to run
'fix_libtool_files.sh' with a version of gcc as an argument.  Run a
search of gentoo-user for that and it should explain how to use it.
hth,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Digital Information

[Mike Melanson]

Grant wrote:
This is off-topic, but I bet you guys can help me figure this out.
How does digital information (0 or 1, off or on) end up doing all the
stuff it does?  A link or explanation would be greatly appreciated.
	Hmm, this is a pretty fundamental computer question. I guess I would 
have to answer that 1s and 0s are able to achieve all they do by teaming 
up. One binary digit, or bit (0 or 1) does not do much by itself. You 
have to put 8 of them together to come up with a regulation byte, for 
example.

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[gentoo-user] OT - Email question

[Michael Sullivan]

On our LAN we have three PCs:  baby.espersunited.com,
bullet.espersunited.com, and blossom.espersunited.com.  Blossom is our
newest addition and it is my wife's personal computer, as baby is mine.
Blossom's hard drive is not large enough to hold Windows and Linux and
my wife would rather have her full installation of Windows ME if she
cannot have both.  We're planning to upgrade the hard drive soon.
Anyway, she now uses my computer (baby) for her Linux needs including
various cron jobs.  Unfortunately, baby's cron sends cron reports for
cron jobs through local mail on baby.  bullet.espersunited.com (I
mentioned before) holds our mail/ftp/www servers.  It is running Fedora
Core 1 because I have other users relying on it and I don't trust myself
to have Gentoo installation with everything working correctly on it in a
timely manner.  I'll have to wait until we get another PC that can do
bullet's job until I'm confident that everything works right.  Anyway,
bullet is running an IMAP server.  My wife uses blossom and baby to get
her mail from there.  I cannot figure out how to get baby to mail it's
cron reports to bullet so that my wife can pick them up there from her
computer.  I've tried using the mail command on baby to send email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (bullet.espersunited.com is also
recognized by my ISP's DNS database to point to the same address as
espersunited.com; my router handles the rest), but the mail I sent just
came to my local inbox here on baby.  Do I need to set up my own local
DNS server for espersunited.com?  I have all computers on the network
identified in /etc/hosts.  How can I fix this so that my wife doesn't
have to log onto baby to check her cron mail?


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[gentoo-user] Making Radeon 8500 Work

[Mike Melanson]

Hi,
	I am trying to get Gentoo to work with my new AMD64 machine. I am 
getting hung up with X (classic tale). I have an ATI Radeon 8500 card
installed (same video card/monitor combo I was using with my last P4
setup). I was not sure what the 'X' package was called so I just
emerge'd some KDE packages and that installed X.org 6.8.0. I downloaded
the binary ATI drivers for x86_64/X.org 6.8.0. I have gone through all
the hoops of the fglrxconfig setup to generate the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
file. I have modified the file so that the default mode is not 640x480.
I have compiled the kernel modules that came with the ATI package (and
have done the installation).

However, when X starts it only comes up in the default 640x480.
According to /var/log/X.org.log, the driver is looking through
resolutions and complaining that the hsync is bad for all of them. I
even modified the monitor section of the config file so that the upper
limit of the v/hsync regions are 9.9. I seem to recall having to do
that with my last setup.
Is there some special trick I am missing here? Thanks...
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Digital Information

[Keith P Hassen]

Mike Melanson wrote:
Grant wrote:
This is off-topic, but I bet you guys can help me figure this out.
How does digital information (0 or 1, off or on) end up doing all the
stuff it does?  A link or explanation would be greatly appreciated.

Hmm, this is a pretty fundamental computer question. I guess I would 
have to answer that 1s and 0s are able to achieve all they do by teaming 
up. One binary digit, or bit (0 or 1) does not do much by itself. You 
have to put 8 of them together to come up with a regulation byte, for 
example.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate
http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/digital-electronics.htm
google is your friend
The concept of information storage is interesting, and I would recommend 
books/courses on computer architecture fundamentals.  Certain types of 
logic gates can store voltages that are either in a high or low state -- 
which for our purposes is a 1 or 0.  You can then line up these gates as 
"arrays" or "registers" of 8, 16, 32, etc...you can then start assigning 
particular tasks to each of these "registers".  Anyway, check the web 
and/or the library. ;)

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[gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Jim Hatfield]

I've had an ever-growing backlog of packages to update, all blocked
by xfce:

>term2 root # emerge --update world
>Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>
>!!! Error: the xfce-base/xfce4-base package conflicts with another package.
>!!!both can't be installed on the same system together.
>!!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers.

Just now, out of (perverse) curiosity, I tried an emerge --depclean
and it did seem to remove some of the xfce extras which I understand
are causing this problem. I noticed right at the end there was an
error message about libacl.so.1, so decided to reboot to make sure
everything was OK.

But sadly no. Selected highlights from the boot messages (by hand):

*Calculating module dependencies
*Failed to calculate dependencies

and

*Caching service dependencies
ls: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: no such file or directory
 * No scripts to process!
/var/lib/init.d/depcache: /var/lib/init.d/depcache: no such file or
directory

(then lots and lots of complaints about libacl.so.1)
then after the login prompt:

error calling: unlink in "GLOBAL"
 error calling: unlink in "GLOBAL"

and no xdm so no graphical login.

I can log in as root but I can't even do an "ls".
Is there any way I can get libacl.so.1 back so I can proceed?


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Re: [gentoo-user] mgetty-1.1.30 emerge fails

[David Busby]

Aaron Walker wrote:
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Contrary to what it looks like, it has nothing at all to do with 
permissions.
The problem is that the mgetty build is trying to write outside of
${PORTAGE_TMPDIR} which is considered an access violation.  This is a 
bug, and
should be reported as such at http://bugs.gentoo.org/.  Make sure you do a
search first though, to make sure someone else hasn't already submitted 
one.
If you do end up submitting one, don't forget your emerge info.

Dang.  Bug #80739 mgetty-1.1.30 fails with ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Digital Information

[Grant]

> >> This is off-topic, but I bet you guys can help me figure this out.
> >>
> >> How does digital information (0 or 1, off or on) end up doing all the
> >> stuff it does?  A link or explanation would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Hmm, this is a pretty fundamental computer question. I guess I would
> > have to answer that 1s and 0s are able to achieve all they do by teaming
> > up. One binary digit, or bit (0 or 1) does not do much by itself. You
> > have to put 8 of them together to come up with a regulation byte, for
> > example.
> >
> > --
> > -Mike Melanson
> >
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> >
> >
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate
> http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/
> http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/digital-electronics.htm
> 
> google is your friend
> 
> The concept of information storage is interesting, and I would recommend
> books/courses on computer architecture fundamentals.  Certain types of
> logic gates can store voltages that are either in a high or low state --
> which for our purposes is a 1 or 0.  You can then line up these gates as
> "arrays" or "registers" of 8, 16, 32, etc...you can then start assigning
> particular tasks to each of these "registers".  Anyway, check the web
> and/or the library. ;)
> 
> _k

Very nice guys, thanks a lot.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

[Christoph Eckert]

> How could I share the sound resources between different
> apps?

You need a system which allows all of your applications to 
play sound. Especially mplayer does support most of the 
existing systems. try mplayer -ao help

Unfortunately, there are applications which can only 
use /dev/dsp and will therefore block your audio device. Such 
apps cannot be used to play through a mixing layer.

You can try a soundserver like arts (KDE), esound (Gnome) or 
JACK (professional audio) or DMIX (alsa software mixing).


 Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo 2004.3 What happened to Stage 2?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 04:23 am, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:13:52 +0800 Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | Just wondering how come Stage 2 went missing in the universal CD?
> |
> | I had to install from Stage 3 instead.
>
> We didn't include stage2s on the CDs since they're pointless and take up
> a lot of space. You can download it separately from the mirrors.

By pointless, Ciaran is being a bit harsh.  What he means is that the only 
suitable network-less install is stage3.  So, if you want to do a stage2, 
you've got to have your network up, so you can just download the stage.

stage1 is so tiny it's not a waste to put on the CD.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Digital Information

[Jason Cooper]

Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> This is off-topic, but I bet you guys can help me figure this out.
> 
> How does digital information (0 or 1, off or on) end up doing all the
> stuff it does?  A link or explanation would be greatly appreciated.

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-071Introduction-to-ElectronicsFall2002/CourseHome/index.htm

That should give you something to noodle on for a while :)

Cooper.

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[gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Mal Herring]

Hi List,
I would like to write a script that somehow gets a text only output of a
webpage - can lynx do this ?
Then grep the output for a desired string of text - then somehow pass
the result to an if command so that if the string is found - lauch this
and if not then loop...

Can this be done ?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: console only web browsing

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 06:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i've always used Lynx when i don't need a GUI browser
> & it has loads of features, if you take the time to find out about them.
> i realised -- just today -- that you can use its visited-links page
> to emulate tabs to a certain extent.  numbered links are a great device.
> its one big limitation is lack of any support for Javascript,
> but often you can extract needed URLs from source-view, esp "pretty
> source".

I like links that came on the liveCD.  In fact, it's even a pretty good GUI 
browser that doesn't need X--it will run in a framebuffer.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Mike Melanson]

Mal Herring wrote:
Hi List,
I would like to write a script that somehow gets a text only output of a
webpage - can lynx do this ?
Then grep the output for a desired string of text - then somehow pass
the result to an if command so that if the string is found - lauch this
and if not then loop...
Can this be done ?
	You may wish to use the wget command line utility in combination with 
grep in order to achieve this:

  wget http://server.org/page.html | grep "my text" page.html
The actual script will probably need to be a bit smarter.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Jason Cooper]

Mal Herring ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> Hi List,
> I would like to write a script that somehow gets a text only output of a
> webpage - can lynx do this ?
> Then grep the output for a desired string of text - then somehow pass
> the result to an if command so that if the string is found - lauch this
> and if not then loop...

wget -O -  | grep 

hth,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendations for consolefont

[Marshal Newrock]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Nick Smith wrote:
Alternatively, you can use svgatextmode, but this doesn't take effect
until the appropriate init script is run.
well thats fine with me as long as my working area is a higher
resolution, how do you get svgatextmode to work?
It's been quite a while since I've used it, but iirc, it's pretty simple. 
emerge it, set the config file to the resolution you'd like, and add it to 
the startup scripts.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Mal Herring]

> wget -O -  | grep 

I forgot to mention that the page is on an odd port - 9270, when trying
the command I get :

HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
17:45:21 ERROR -1: Malformed status line.

Should I change something ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 11:51 am, "Mal Herring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Hi List,
> I would like to write a script that somehow gets a text only output of a
> webpage - can lynx do this ?
> Then grep the output for a desired string of text - then somehow pass
> the result to an if command so that if the string is found - lauch this
> and if not then loop...
>
> Can this be done ?

Use wget to grab the HTML. (wget  -O -, or somesuch)
Use sed to strip out the HTML tags. (sed -e 's/<[^>]*>//g', or similar)

You probably want something like:

while [ ! "`wget $URL -O - | sed -e 's/<[^>]*>//g' | grep $STRING`" ] ; do
$CMD_IF_STRING_FOUND
done

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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Dave Nebinger]

Yeah, wget "http://address:port/...";

> -Original Message-
> From: Mal Herring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...
> 
> > wget -O -  | grep 
> 
> I forgot to mention that the page is on an odd port - 9270, when trying
> the command I get :
> 
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
> 17:45:21 ERROR -1: Malformed status line.
> 
> Should I change something ?
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Matthew Cline]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:56:02 -0500, Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mal Herring ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > Hi List,
> > I would like to write a script that somehow gets a text only output of a
> > webpage - can lynx do this ?
> > Then grep the output for a desired string of text - then somehow pass
> > the result to an if command so that if the string is found - lauch this
> > and if not then loop...
> 

Using lynx, try something like this:

if lynx -dump URL | grep -q -e "expression"
then
   whatever
else
   whatever
fi

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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Mal Herring]

> if lynx -dump URL | grep -q -e "expression"

Wget causes the same previously posted error - lynx rocks !

Will continue - thanks all !

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo 2004.3 What happened to Stage 2?

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
| stage1 is so tiny it's not a waste to put on the CD.
Still it tends to create broken installs and might be discarded in the
near future. The best way to install Gentoo (according to several
sources in the IRC/forums and my own experience) is to use a
stage-3-tarball in any case. One can "simulate" a stage-1 install
without the issues that the broken /var/db introduces when using a
stage-1-tarball.
Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 11:21 am, Jim Hatfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I've had an ever-growing backlog of packages to update, all blocked
>
> by xfce:
> >term2 root # emerge --update world
> >Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> >
> >!!! Error: the xfce-base/xfce4-base package conflicts with another
> > package. !!!both can't be installed on the same system
> > together. !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine
> > blockers.
>
> Just now, out of (perverse) curiosity, I tried an emerge --depclean
> and it did seem to remove some of the xfce extras which I understand
> are causing this problem. I noticed right at the end there was an
> error message about libacl.so.1, so decided to reboot to make sure
> everything was OK.

That's not what depclean is for.  No wonder you broke your system.  If you 
have a specific blocker, then you should use emerge -C .  If 
you'd throw a -a in that command line you'd get a better list of specific 
blockers.

Depclean can be dangerous if used on a system where the portage info is not 
quite in sync with reality.  In particular, it is very sensitive to use 
flags.  [/Anything/ that removes packages can be dangerous!]

While it's possible to "blindly" depclean, I advise against it.  Always use 
-a with depclean do a sanity check on the packages that have been slated 
for removal.  Also, because of use flag sensitivity, I recommend only 
depclean-ing *immediately* after a *successful, non-resumed* emerge -uD 
--newuse world.

In your case, USE flags is exactly what screwed you up.  Your USE flags 
don't include "acl", but coreutils is currently installed with "acl".  
Depclean is a bit of an idiot and calculates dependecies based on the 
current USE flags instead of the installed USE flags.  So, it took out 
your acl package.

> I can log in as root but I can't even do an "ls".
> Is there any way I can get libacl.so.1 back so I can proceed?

Grab your liveCD so you actually have commands that work and move 
libacl.so.1 over from a working system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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Jim Hatfield wrote:
| I've had an ever-growing backlog of packages to update, all blocked
| by xfce:
|
|
|>term2 root # emerge --update world
|>Calculating world dependencies ...done!
|>
|>!!! Error: the xfce-base/xfce4-base package conflicts with another
package.
|>!!!both can't be installed on the same system together.
|>!!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers.
|
|
| Just now, out of (perverse) curiosity, I tried an emerge --depclean
| and it did seem to remove some of the xfce extras which I understand
| are causing this problem. I noticed right at the end there was an
| error message about libacl.so.1, so decided to reboot to make sure
| everything was OK.
|
| But sadly no. Selected highlights from the boot messages (by hand):
|
| *Calculating module dependencies
| *Failed to calculate dependencies
|
| and
|
| *Caching service dependencies
| ls: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open
| shared object file: no such file or directory
|  * No scripts to process!
| /var/lib/init.d/depcache: /var/lib/init.d/depcache: no such file or
| directory
|
| (then lots and lots of complaints about libacl.so.1)
| then after the login prompt:
|
| error calling: unlink in "GLOBAL"
|  error calling: unlink in "GLOBAL"
|
| and no xdm so no graphical login.
|
| I can log in as root but I can't even do an "ls".
| Is there any way I can get libacl.so.1 back so I can proceed?
Try to run "revdep-rebuild" to remerge the missing dependencies. It
should bring your system back to normal. Also consider using the
dep-script (see below for URL) made by ecatmur instead of the broken
emerge --depclean.
URL: http://home.jesus.ox.ac.uk/~ecatmur/my-bin/dep
Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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| I wanted know if  this compile error would be saved by portage on a log
| file?
Not by default. You can enable logging by adding the following to your
/etc/make.conf:
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

[Tero Grundström]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Damian Kolkowski wrote:

> * Captain FantastiK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-04 16:22]:
> > CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ftracer"
>
> Use this instead:
> -O2 -march=pentium4 -formit-frame-pointer
>
> Yours CFLAGS are wrong, You need to use onlu one (mcpu or marcg), the last one
> are used.

I might be wrong but I believe that, in the case of mcpu and march, both
are used.

Therefore where

-mcpu=pentium4
would generate code that is compatible with processors >= i386

-march=i686 -mcpu=pentium4
would generate code that works with all i686 compatible processors but
also takes advantage of most pentium4 specific features.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 10:13 am, Damian Kolkowski 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Captain FantastiK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-04 16:22]:
> > CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
> > -ftracer"
>
> Use this instead:
> -O2 -march=pentium4 -formit-frame-pointer
>
> Yours CFLAGS are wrong, You need to use onlu one (mcpu or marcg), the
> last one are used.

That's incorrect.

-march= produces code that will only work on that architecture.  For 
example, it may use MMX, SSE, or 3dNow operations.  It also includes the 
optimizations performed by -mcpu=.

-mcpu= (Previously -mtune=) produces code that will work on any 
architecture (within the limits of this gcc binary) but performs 
instruction scheduling to optimize for a certain CPU.

For CFLAGS in make.conf, I suggest using both, just in case a certain 
ebuild / makefile strips out -march, that way you still get the -mcpu 
optimizations.

From "info gcc": (I have gcc 3.4.3 installed)
`-mtune=CPU-TYPE'
 Tune to CPU-TYPE everything applicable about the generated code,
 except for the ABI and the set of available instructions.

`-march=CPU-TYPE'
 Generate instructions for the machine type CPU-TYPE.  The choices
 for CPU-TYPE are the same as for `-mtune'.  Moreover, specifying
 `-march=CPU-TYPE' implies `-mtune=CPU-TYPE'.

`-mcpu=CPU-TYPE'
 A deprecated synonym for `-mtune'.

(Looks like I had -mtune and -mcpu backwards.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

[Siddhartha Basu]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:37:45 +0100, Christoph Eckert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > How could I share the sound resources between different
> > apps?
> 
> You need a system which allows all of your applications to
> play sound. Especially mplayer does support most of the
> existing systems. try mplayer -ao help
> 
> Unfortunately, there are applications which can only
> use /dev/dsp and will therefore block your audio device. Such
> apps cannot be used to play through a mixing layer.
> 
> You can try a soundserver like arts (KDE), esound (Gnome) or
> JACK (professional audio) or 
>DMIX (alsa software mixing).
For setting up dmix with alsa try this howto:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo 2004.3 What happened to Stage 2?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 12:16 pm, Karsten Baumgarten 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> | stage1 is so tiny it's not a waste to put on the CD.
>
> Still it tends to create broken installs and might be discarded in the
> near future. The best way to install Gentoo (according to several
> sources in the IRC/forums and my own experience) is to use a
> stage-3-tarball in any case. One can "simulate" a stage-1 install
> without the issues that the broken /var/db introduces when using a
> stage-1-tarball.

Odd, all of my gentoo installs have been stage1, and I don't think I have 
had any major problems that weren't my fault [1].  I'd really be 
disappointed if they did away with it.  In particular, how can one change 
their CHOST after bootstrapping?

[1] I blew away /var once, that was bad.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

[Christoph Eckert]

> For setting up dmix with alsa try this howto:
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix

AFAIK, DMIX will be included in the next Fedora release as 
well as in one of the next ALSA release.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 12:01 pm, "Mal Herring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > wget -O -  | grep 
>
> I forgot to mention that the page is on an odd port - 9270, when trying
> the command I get :
>
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
> 17:45:21 ERROR -1: Malformed status line.
>
> Should I change something ?

Make sure you specify the port in the URL like http://myserver:9270/myfile.  
The error you posted indicates the server is broken (not really using 
HTTP), but that could be because you attempted to use the wrong port.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Repairing damaged partition

[Mike Noble]

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|>
|>I just rebooted one of my snort machines and i got a kernel panic and a
|>lot of "Drive seek errors" om my ext3 partition. The first time i run fsck
|>form a cdrom on that partition it just says again drive seek errors and
|>non-recoverble.
|>The second time, fsck says: could this be a zero lenght partition.
|>How can i repair this disk?
|>One bizar thing is, i got just the same problems a few months ago also and
|>then i replaced the disk.
|>
|
| Forgot to mention that fsck -b  /dev/hda3
| din't help i keep getting the drive seek errors.
|
Sounds like your drive has gone bad, hope you have some backups.
It is possible that the first superblock has gone bad, try one of
the other superblock backups, one of them may allow you to get it
working.  But if the drive has gone bad this probably will not do
much.
I personally have a second drive which contains a duplicate of the
main disk and if one fails I can boot from the second.  The chances
of loosing both disks is very slim.
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo 2004.3 What happened to Stage 2?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto:
On Friday 04 February 2005 12:16 pm, Karsten Baumgarten 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
| stage1 is so tiny it's not a waste to put on the CD.
Still it tends to create broken installs and might be discarded in the
near future. The best way to install Gentoo (according to several
sources in the IRC/forums and my own experience) is to use a
stage-3-tarball in any case. One can "simulate" a stage-1 install
without the issues that the broken /var/db introduces when using a
stage-1-tarball.
   

Odd, all of my gentoo installs have been stage1, and I don't think I have 
had any major problems that weren't my fault [1].  I'd really be 
disappointed if they did away with it.  In particular, how can one change 
their CHOST after bootstrapping?

 

# emerge depclean
>change your flags
# emerge -ev world
and your are ok again
[1] I blew away /var once, that was bad.
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 07:40 am, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Schorr wrote:
> > On Friday 04 February 2005 14:13, Holly Bostick wrote:
> >>As for the lack of consoles, I would wonder two things:
> >>
> >>1) why was it suggested to comment
> >>
> >># Uncomment this to disable the  VT switch sequence
> >># (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
> >># events.
> >>
> >>#Option "DontVTSwitch"
> >>-end
> >>
> >>out? It would seem that if you actually want this functionality, you
> >>should *un*comment it. Am I missing something?
> >
> > yes. if you don't want VTSwitch you have to remove the comment. If you
> > want to switch, you have to put a comment, i.e. leave the default as
> > it is. The comment in xorg.conf reads UNcomment to DISable.
>
> You're right; I misread. It's always so weird to have a comment *enable*
>   something, rather than *dis*able it, I got confused.

Well, the "feature" is 'allow X applications to receive the Ctrl-Alt-FXX 
keypress', unfortunately it's easier to talk about this feature as a 
negation of the default behavior, 'Don't VT switch'.

So, to enable to feature you include
Option "DontVTSwitch"
for the default behavior you don't have to have anything, but a comment:
#Option "DontVTSwitch"
will remind you that you can enable the feature when you want it.

Perhaps you can convince the Xorg maintainers to rename it to something 
more positive, like "PassCtrlAltFn"

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Re: [gentoo-user] simple backups

[Mike Noble]

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| i read up on the man page of rsync and got that this command will backup
| my server to another external drive i have:
|
| mail root # rsync -avz / /mnt/backup/
|
If you are looking for a way to make backups and to have incremental
backups you should look at dump and restore.
You have the ability to search and restore individual files from the
backups.
A simple command to make a full backup of your systems / would be:
dump 0uf /mnt/backup/ epoch-`date +%F` /dev/hda3
This will produce a file called: epoch-2005-02-04
It will contain everything on the partition /dev/hda3
To create an incremental of everything has changed since the
epoch you would use:
dump 9uf /mnt/backup/ inc-`date +%F` /dev/hda3
To restore a file in interactive mode you would use:
restore -if /mnt/backup/epoch-2005-02-04  or inc-2005-02-04
For more information on dump and restore please refer to your
friendly man pages.
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT Getting dual monitors to work

[Douglas James Dunn]

off topic but. Is it possible to have a console on one monitor and X on
another if you have a dual head card?

On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 20:43 +, George Bingham wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I've just installed 2.4.26. I have two graphics cards, each has a
> monitor, my primary display is an old ATI (Rage 128), and the other
> one is an NVidia GEforce 2. I have X installed and working with the
> KDE desktop using the ATI card & it's monitor. I have not been able to
> get the nvidia display to work yet.
> 
> I've emeged nvidia, and have the module loaded (it shows as being
> 'unused'). I've also edited the xorg.conf file so that it knows about
> both displays.
> 
> In Linux before I've started X, the nvidia display is not active at
> all, not sure if it would be used by linux before X starts or not.
> 
> Here's  a few relevent pieces of my xorg.conf file:
> 
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier  "Screen 1"
> Device  "** ATI Rage 128 based (generic)   [r128]"
> Monitor "Envision"
> DefaultDepth 24
> 
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   8
> Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   16
> Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier  "Screen 2"
> Device  "NVidia"
> Monitor "NEC"
> DefaultDepth 24
> 
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   8
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   16
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   24
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
> 
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> George Bingham
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Another way to view apache2's logs

[Alec Shaner]

Grant wrote:
above.  One thing I'd really like to see that no log analyzer seems to
include is a breakdown of info by day.  It always seems to be by
month, and that means I get much more relevant information during the
first couple days of every month when I get to see what happened
during those days.
Apologies if it was already brought up (I already deleted most of this 
thread), but did you evaluate app-admin/analog? It's been a couple years 
since I used it, but it does report some things by day.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT Getting dual monitors to work

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 04 February 2005 01:52 pm, Douglas James Dunn 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> off topic but. Is it possible to have a console on one monitor and X on
> another if you have a dual head card?

From what I can tell, only one virtual console is shown at a time.  So, you 
can't have virtual console 1 (console) and virtual console 7 (X) shown at 
the same time.

It may be possible, but I haven't seen it done.

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Re: [gentoo-user] time not set ffrom hardware clock

[darren kirby]

quoth the Martoni:
> The hardware clock on my laptop is correct  - but the clock in KDE is
> totally weird (wrong date/time).

If BIOS clock is correct then just run:
# hwclock --hctosys

Also, make sure that KDE doesn't have some regional settings that are changing 
the time the clock displays...

> I've done a brief scan of the forums, and can't find the right
> solution. Any idea on how to fix this?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin S
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[gentoo-user] Tor

[Nick Smith]

i noticed tor is masked in portage. is anyone using it without problems?
are there any other programs like Tor out there that accomplish the same
thing? anonymous surfing? im looking for something i can set up to be
anonymous while on the web from home and also connect to it while on the
road so i know its secure and anonymous.

thanks


Nick Smith

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage rsync via ssh

[Nick Rout]

perhaps you could alias the rsync command to include the parameters you
need.

Why do you want to do this, its not exactly sensitive info?

On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 20:57 -0500, David Corbin wrote:
> I have one machine on my system that I as a "portage sync target" for others. 
>   
> Is there anyway to have portage sync from this target using "rsync over ssh", 
> rather than straight rsync?
> 
> Thanks
> David
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Re: [gentoo-user] Tor

[Jason Cooper]

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> i noticed tor is masked in portage. is anyone using it without problems?
> are there any other programs like Tor out there that accomplish the same
> thing? anonymous surfing? im looking for something i can set up to be
> anonymous while on the web from home and also connect to it while on the
> road so i know its secure and anonymous.

It works really well.  Although it does get bogged down when you run
gtk-gnutella through it for 48 hours :)

All the masking means is that the ebuild hasn't been tested enough.  It
worked for me on several different platforms, though.  Give it a whirl.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tor

[Nick Smith]

On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 15:51 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > i noticed tor is masked in portage. is anyone using it without problems?
> > are there any other programs like Tor out there that accomplish the same
> > thing? anonymous surfing? im looking for something i can set up to be
> > anonymous while on the web from home and also connect to it while on the
> > road so i know its secure and anonymous.
> 
> It works really well.  Although it does get bogged down when you run
> gtk-gnutella through it for 48 hours :)
> 
> All the masking means is that the ebuild hasn't been tested enough.  It
> worked for me on several different platforms, though.  Give it a whirl.
> 
> Cooper.
> 
sweet ill have to play with that then.  do you know how to open it up to
accept external requests? not just internal, so i can access it from
anywhere? the wiki only explains the internal techniques. 

Nick Smith

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Re: [gentoo-user] So depclean *is* dangerous after all!

[Alastair Murray]

Jim Hatfield wrote:
ls: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: no such file or directory
I also experienced this after a depclean (I didn't realise libacl and 
libattr where critical at the time).  However, I didn't reboot so using 
already running or unaffected programs I managed to download and extract 
the necessary files from a few rpms, then reemerge coreutils.  Maybe you 
could do a similiar thing from a bootable CD?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tor

[Jason Cooper]

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 15:51 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > > i noticed tor is masked in portage. is anyone using it without problems?
> > > are there any other programs like Tor out there that accomplish the same
> > > thing? anonymous surfing? im looking for something i can set up to be
> > > anonymous while on the web from home and also connect to it while on the
> > > road so i know its secure and anonymous.
> > 
> > It works really well.  Although it does get bogged down when you run
> > gtk-gnutella through it for 48 hours :)
> > 
> > All the masking means is that the ebuild hasn't been tested enough.  It
> > worked for me on several different platforms, though.  Give it a whirl.
> > 
> sweet ill have to play with that then.  do you know how to open it up to
> accept external requests? not just internal, so i can access it from
> anywhere? the wiki only explains the internal techniques. 

I don't offer it up to the world, but I have it accessible on my
internal lan through privoxy.  privoxy listens on 0.0.0.0:8118 and
passes everything on to tor.  I suppose you could do the same with tor,
I just haven't tried it.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Friday 04 February 2005 19:36, Christoph Eckert wrote:
> > For setting up dmix with alsa try this howto:
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix
>
> AFAIK, DMIX will be included in the next Fedora release as
> well as in one of the next ALSA release.

dmix is part of alsa, no need to 'include' it, just to set up your .asoundrc 
correctly.

Glück Auf
Volker

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10-hardened-r3 sound card driver changes

[Calvin Walton]

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:46:27 -0800, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But if I boot into 2.6.7-hardened-r17 with alsa compiled in, sound works 
> great.

I'm just wondering, since the error message you showed above meant the
device files weren't there, are you using udev or devfs? If devfs, did
you forget to enable 'mount at boot' or anything like that?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound for the Masses

[Christoph Eckert]

> > AFAIK, DMIX will be included in the next Fedora release
> > as well as in one of the next ALSA release.
>
> dmix is part of alsa, no need to 'include' it, just to set
> up your .asoundrc correctly.

Yeah, but writing an .asoundrc isn't the most trivial thing on 
earth, due to its syntax.

I meant it will be activated per default in the named releases 
so there's no need to truggle with .asoundrc.


 Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: gentoo & gui problems

[Neil Walker]

Admin wrote:
I
 had to remove framebuffer from kernel because when I left it in console
mode
 (there was no X installed) screensaver was blocking the display. 
There is no screensaver in console (framebuffer) mode. There is, 
however, screen BLANKING  - which can be turned off with:

setterm -blank 0
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Re: [gentoo-user] Synchronizing 2 Gentoo systems

[Neil Walker]

Ow Mun Heng wrote:
The simplest way is to use NFS and simply mount /usr/portage on the host 
machine from the others. It works well here on a network of 6 machines.

Alternatively, you can use rsync. There is a how-to somewhere on the 
Gentoo website.

This is what I do.
1. echo 'GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://129.253.108.99/sync/";' >> /etc/make.conf
2. Set up Apache so that it serves the portage distfiles (actually)
3. Set up a Rsync cron job or something that just polls this box. No
need to for a how to.
Hmm. I don't think you actually bothered to read my message - other than 
the last line. :P


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo 2004.3 What happened to Stage 2?

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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| Odd, all of my gentoo installs have been stage1, and I don't think I have
| had any major problems that weren't my fault [1].  I'd really be
| disappointed if they did away with it.  In particular, how can one change
| their CHOST after bootstrapping?
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=274968
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[gentoo-user] Unlink in order to upgrade to 2005.0 profile?

[asteriusb]

Hi list,

I have upgraded to the last stable version of portage and followed the 
instruction
it gave to me.
code:
rm make.profile
ln -s ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.0 make.profile

However, when I was reading the upgrade guide, it become clear that the last
version of a profile is 2004.3 and now, we have a new version of gentoo -- 
2005.0
and the same name profile as well. Probably it seems very easy for some, but I 
thought
I'd ask. I want to upgrade to the last possible profile, 2005.0, but not sure 
how I proceed. Do I have to unlink the 2004.0 profile before I link it to a new 
2005.0?
Would any one tell me a code how to do it? Or, I follow the same procedure as 
before
without unlinking it first? Thanks.


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