Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Turn of maildir
Check out the gentoo web site docs under use flags. On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: Bjoern Michaelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Snip man portage shows some of the syntax for `package.use' but apparently assumes a user will know more than I do. For example: There appear to be a set of default use flags with various pkgs. In the instant case... sendmail. How does one learn what those are? Just: `equery uses sendmail', or does that show what was actually used not just what the defaults are? Further... if a user adds or subtracts a use flage like this: cat /etc/portage/sendmail.use: mail-mta/sendmail +mbox +mailwrapper +sasl How will user now which other flags will be used? Or must they also be specified here? None of the flags that appear when I run: `equery uses sendmail' are listed in: /etc/make.profile/make.defaults So where do they come from? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Turn of maildir
You can set use flags in /etc/make.conf if you want them to apply to everything otherwise check out man portage and /etc/portage/package.* files. On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: Robert S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't know if this is relevant, but you can compile sendmail with or without the mbox USE flag - I think that that determines whether mail goes to maildir or not: [...] Appears to be very relevant ... thanks. My use flag for mbox was - - mbox : Adds support for mbox (/var/spool/mail) style mail spools> So, apparently that is my problem. I'm still just learning the emerge/portage setup so not really sure how to redo that. Does one have to change basic USE flag setting somewhere or can they be set at emerge time? If so can you show a simple example? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x-forwarding or vnc or ?
You're welcome. Each has it's pros and cons so I'd suggest looking at them and checking past posts for some discussions. To be honest, I've just started looking at this myself but got sidetracked on other issues I have to solve on my system. I know Mark Knecht has been working on this - one of the threads he started. As I understand it vnc is like a remote desktop (and there is an rdesktop that lets you get to Windows boxes) control in that you can take over a machine and control it remotely. I've used it on Windows boxes before so I didn't have to physically go to the box. If you want to run X apps you need to use X to run apps on another machine that show up on your display, keyboard, etc. - that's different than vnc. On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Grant wrote: There have been some extensive discussion on this list recently so that would be a good place to start as well as the forum archives. Thanks Brett I did find some good stuff. I want to be able to do something in the style of vnc. It sounds like I should set up realvnc, tightvnc, or use NX. Do these each have ups and downs I should figure out before choosing one, or is one generally better than another? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x-forwarding or vnc or ?
There have been some extensive discussion on this list recently so that would be a good place to start as well as the forum archives. On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Grant wrote: Ever since I got started with Linux I thought the whole x-forwarding/vnc thing was really cool. I finally have a reliable wireless Gentoo network, and I'd love to set some of that up. I'd like to be able to do 2 things: 1. Start an X session that is running on that computer but is controlled on this computer. 2. Share an X session that is running on that computer between it and this computer. That would mean the two people at the two computers would see the same thing, and either of them could take control of the inputs. What kind of stuff should I set up to handle this? I'd like to be able to do #1 and #2 within the local network and over the Internet. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartcl: probing individual drives in a 100% hardware raid array?
Adaptec RAID controllers have a built in BIOS that lets you check the drives but you have to boot to it. They also have a bootable CD (RH based) that has a GUI for looking at the RAID card and drives. On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Mike Williams wrote: On Wednesday 30 March 2005 18:04, fire-eyes wrote: I'm using smartctl which lets me access S.M.A.R.T. data. I'm also using 100% hardware raid. So the system sees each array as a single disk, even though it's several disks. I'd like to probe each individual disk, however right now I can only probe an individual array. How might I do this? If the system can only see the array, then you can't. Many (most?) hardware raid solutions will give you a way to monitor the health of the array, and drives making it. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Config Files Update?
Check out etc-update- man etc-update. However, do NOT blindly say yes to all it updates - if you do that and come here whining we won't listen ! This is a tool that requires you to look at what it wants to update and not just blindly update files like /etc/fstab. Use it wisely and look at what it wants to change. Eventually you'll realize which files are safe to let it go and which aren't. On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: I recently just finished a stage 2 installation of gentoo and im still trying to work the bugs out. I emerged KDE and at the end of the emerge it said that 10 config files need to be updated. Is this something that has to be done manually or is there a command that will auto update them for me? I am still new to gentoo and linux so any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. A.J. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there an xfce4 user in the house?
This can happen on the upgrade from 4.0.6 to 4.2.x. He should do as you suggest and run the merge. If there are still problems (as I had) there were some packages that needed to be removed to get rid of some blocks. There is a bug on it for xfce4 in bugzilla. On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Sami Samhuri wrote: * On Sun Mar-27-2005 at 12:38:41 PM -0600, Harry Putnam said: [...] But running: emerge -v -p xfce [snip emerge output] You currently have some packages installed from Xfce 4.2.1 and some others from 4.0.6. No wonder there are problems! :) I have no idea how that happened. Perhaps you have changed between arch and ~arch recently. It doesn't really matter, if you run that emerge command it looks as though it will install all Xfce 4.2.0 packages. Try that out and report back... -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there an xfce4 user in the house?
Something didn't get installed correctly. All I did was emerge xfce4 and it will list everything that needs to go in. Also there is no .xfce4 for 4.2 - they use a ~/.config directory. Once it's installed you can do startxfce4 and see what happens. If that works set up rc.conf. On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm trying to run xfce4 genlop xfce4 reports only: * xfce-base/xfce4 But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it doesn't show up. On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X. Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc. They don't appear in the taskbar pager. I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No-ip.com Client
No reason it shouldn't work. Add it to /etc/init.d then try it manually (/etc/init.d/noip2 start). If that works do rc-update add noip2 yourlevel Where yourlevel is probably default. On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Mrugesh Karnik wrote: I am using no-ip.com's redirection services to run my webserver on Gentoo.. I downloaded their client and installed it. Now I wanted it to load at startup. I looked at the readme and here are the instructions... ### HOW TO START THE CLIENT The noip2 executable can be run by typing /usr/local/bin/noip2 If you want it to run automatically when the machine is booted, then place the following script in your startup directory. (/etc/init.d/rcX.d or /sbin/init.d/rcX.d or ???) ### # ! /bin/sh # . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions # uncomment/modify for your killproc case "$1" in start) echo "Starting noip2." /usr/local/bin/noip2 ;; stop) echo -n "Shutting down noip2." killproc -TERM /usr/local/bin/noip2 ;; *) echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop}" exit 1 esac exit 0 ### Where the 'X' in rcX.d is the value obtained by running the following command grep initdefault /etc/inittab | awk -F: '{print $2}' Killproc can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/init Alternatively, you can uncomment the line after #! /bin/sh Now, if I'm not mistaken, if I add a proper script to /etc/init.d/ then I can add it to the default runlevel using rc-update. But, I have no knowledge of scripting and I'm wondering if the above script would work... Can anyone help me? Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Mbox vs maildir
To me, if all we asked about on this list was purely gentoo related this would be a dead list as X, bootsplash, sound, network, editors, terminal emulators, etc. all have nothing to do with gentoo per se so we'd all be elsewhere. If you look at it that way there isn't much left to discuss expect the stage 1-3 installs, and the live CDs. We'd probably better clean out most of the posts in the forums, too as I've been looking at some long threads on X and KDE (neither of which are specific Gentoo isssues but are helping me solve some problems ). We'd better take down some of the sticky notes, too that don't pertain to Gentoo per se. As the original poster I asked here for two reasons. First and foremost I'm running Gentoo and want feedback on this issue from others who use Gentoo. Theoretically, mailers, X, sound, etc. should be the same for all distros but they aren't so we go to the lists of the distro we are running. Second, there's a lot of good knowledge on this list from people who know Gentoo and other distros as well. To me, it's not a problem. As one poster said, I skip the ones I don't want but I read a lot of posts on topics I'm not interested at the moment in because when I'm done I've learned something about Gentoo and Linux. More than once, I've later encountered a problem I could fix because I remember a post on it so I went back to the archives and looked up the solution. On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote: I'd imagine that 100% of the people on this list interact with email, which is a much better ratio than those that use X, setup a bootsplash, or want sound to work. I quitely delete those threads as being of no interest to me, but interesting and on topic for others on the list. I expect others to give my and a significant portion of the list's interests the same curtesy. That's a problem that most mailing lists suffer from. For this list, some folks believe that if they're running a gentoo system, then the gentoo list is the place to post questions whether they're truly related to gentoo issues or not. Nick is right that the mailserver thing is OT because it's not a specific gentoo issue. Some of the other issues you mentioned are typically more gentoo-related than the mailserver choice thing. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Control windows from Linx
Try tightvnc (or realvnc). Tight vnc is in portage. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Khan wrote: Hello, I have Linux network in my small home office + one windows 98 (don't ask why). That windows has to use it's own modem to connect to another modem and then use some primitive software for some calculation... etc. I would like to move that windows computer to another room and control it from my Gentoo Linux via some sort of remote desktop for Linux and Windows. Does that software exists? TNX -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mbox vs maildir
Thanks for the replies all of you. It has a little to do with Gentoo . As I set up my system - Gento - I am trying to find out what is used by who and why so I can make some decisions on how to do it. Mbox vs maildir is one of those things. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 12:43 +0800, ZeeGeek wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Is there any advantage to one over the other? What are the pros and cons of each. Thanks. I think maildir is better for handling small files, and maildir stores each mail in seperate files, while Mbox stores them in one, so if anything bad happens to your mails, you won't lose all in maildir case. Think of a mbox with thousands of messages totalling many Gig's. to get to the most recent message you need to open one file and read through those gigs, to get to the last one. All of the file has to be loaded to memory. mbox chokes on big mail folders. maildir is more efficient in that situation. Anyway there are plenty of analyses of the differences between the two and their comparative strengths and weaknesses. google will help. This has damn all to do with gentoo. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Procmail replacement
Yes, looks like getmail is to replace fetchmail - interesting links to many flames of the author of fetchmail on the site . I'd have to use something else to process the mail . On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Rout a écrit : | On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 19:37 -0700, Mike Melanson wrote: | | > Brett I. Holcomb wrote: | > | > > Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail | > > but I can't find it in the archives. Does anyone know any alternatives | > > to procmail. | > | > When I decided to dump procmail, I switched to getmail: | > | > * net-mail/getmail | >Latest version available: 4.2.5 | >Size of downloaded files: 120 kB | >Homepage:http://www.qcc.ca/~charlesc/software/getmail-4/ | >Description: A POP3 mail retriever with reliable Maildir and mbox | > delivery | >License: GPL-2 | > | > Nicest part is that it does not require an SMTP server to be running | > locally. | | | isn't getmail a replacement for fetchmail? Either you are confused, or I | am. Yes, *getmail* is fetching mail, note quite a replacement of fetchmail though, but aims at the same basic functions, while *grepmail* can do the same as procmail, not quite a replacement either. Fetchmail and procamil may be sometimes hard to deal with, but I believe they are the most powerful tools in their respective categories - -- Jean Magnan de Bornier Cours Victor Hugo 13980 Alleins T 08 70 39 34 03 P 06 09 17 35 87 e-mots: jean at bornier.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCKqNO2MXc8v/2IeARAh1HAKCZmJsmQ6i6rEtPojBCK48o/P07pwCgmCfK kKs08acUAavLiN91zWZ+Xbs= =MhAP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email
Re: [gentoo-user] Procmail replacement
Thank you. I'll check it out. On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote: On Saturday 05 March 2005 09:18 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: | Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail | but I can't find it in the archives. Does anyone know any alternatives to | procmail. I use maildrop... * mail-filter/maildrop Latest version available: 1.8.0-r2 Latest version installed: 1.8.0-r2 Size of downloaded files: 1,966 kB Homepage:http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/ Description: Mail delivery agent/filter License: GPL-2 Regards, Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mbox vs maildir
Is there any advantage to one over the other? What are the pros and cons of each. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Procmail replacement
Thanks. I think that was it. I'll check it out. On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote: On Saturday 05 March 2005 09:18 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: | Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail | but I can't find it in the archives. Does anyone know any alternatives to | procmail. I use maildrop... * mail-filter/maildrop Latest version available: 1.8.0-r2 Latest version installed: 1.8.0-r2 Size of downloaded files: 1,966 kB Homepage:http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/ Description: Mail delivery agent/filter License: GPL-2 Regards, Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Procmail replacement
Some time ago someone on this list mentioned an alternative to procmail but I can't find it in the archives. Does anyone know any alternatives to procmail. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Partimage
I installed partimage on my system, set up the daemon and then tried to backup another system. I am using the 0.6.4-r2 version. Partimage is compiled with ssl. On the client machine I booted with the SysRescu-CD and run partimagessl. I find that as long as I set up the server partimaged to use -L (no login) things work fine. However, if I do not use the -L option then I get errors about "incompatible networx connections". Short term the -L works but I'd like to fix it. I'm using this command line (when it doesn't work) partimagessl -sx.x.x.x save /dev/sda1 savedir/savefilename /etc/conf.d/Partimaged has the options -d /files/Images What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multiple physical consoles
From what I've seen you set up xorg.conf for two screens then in the Xservers file (/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers if you use xdm) you can tell it what screen to use. On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Bill Roberts wrote: On 23:38 Fri 04 Mar , James Colannino wrote: Sami Samhuri wrote: snipped or, in my case, I'm using xfce: startxfce4 -- :1 & you'll find that you have two X sessions for two separate users, one on "ctrl-alt F7" and one on "ctrl-alt F8". Now the question is, how to get each session going in a separate monitor, controlled by separate keyboard/mouse. Haven't done the two monitor thing, I'll have to leave that for you. Bill Roberts -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] memtest results: need new ram?
Not really. Kingston and Crucial are both good. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ryan Sims wrote: Many thanks for all the replies. Couple of clarifications/questions: I've only got one stick in, it's a stick of PC3200 512MB, so unfortunately, I can't just swap it with another. Other than trying new ram, is there a way to try and figure out if it's the mainboard or the processor? Since I might be going the new route, are there recommendations for memory brands? I've been told that kingston or crucial are good, (I'm using kingston now, tho). Thanks again. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] memtest results: need new ram?
If you have that many errors I would replace the stick. Is it only on one stick? If it's just one stick then swap it with one that is good and see what happens. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ryan Sims wrote: My computer has had some bizzare symptoms for quite some time now, and I finally ran memtest86 from the livecd, and was wondering if anyone could help me understand what the diagnosis is. There were definately errors that popped up; say a page and a half of them. (and here's the stupid question part) does this mean I need to drop $60 on a new PC3200 stick? Is there an acceptable level of error? I've been assuming that the random crashes (usually only happens in Windows, but *sometimes* Gentoo will develop some tics) were heat problems or buggy software; but now I'm not so sure. Any help would be appreciated. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice emerge fails finding jdk
From what I've seen OOo will use java. In the windows install it was optional - I could skip it. On Gentoo maybe using -java or someother flag will disable it. On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:19:46PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Did you emerge a java and then run the java config? Check the Gentoo site for docs on setting up the java. Does OO *NEED* Java? And if so, why? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
Well, it doesn't work! If I put anything but this in Xservers it locks up after booting. I put /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config back to original. :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt7 If I add another line with :1 ... :1 vt8 it hangs. What's strange is if I add the extra line and then restart X (ctl-alt-bspc) it works - just doesn't on boot. Looking through info on the web and the forums I should be able to do this. However, on the forums I see lines like :0 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt7 but unfortunately, most of the posts are trying to make this work on KDE or Gnome. Do they use a diffrent syntax? Nothing on the web or man pages indicates anything about reserve. Any suggestions? On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Well, I got it kind of working and did so by the doing the following. I say sort of because it worked fine before reboot. I set up the files as shown below and could to a ctl-alt-bkspc and I had three terminals. I played with this for a while and it always worked. However, when I rebooted the system hung and would not respond to the keyboard or mouse and it had a blank screen with the framebuffer image. It looks like it tried to start X and failed. At this point I'm not sure how to make it work. I know Caldera 2.4 could do it but this just isn't working and I've exhausted all I know. If anyone has any ideas I'd be greatful! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install Seg faults
Because segmentation faults usually indicate memory/hardware problems. On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Michael Haan wrote: Because? I've also tried manually installing grub. All looks good except just after "22 sectors are embedded" and "succedded", I get "Segmentation fault". On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:48:32 +, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:34:48 -0500, Michael Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The subject says it all: running "grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda --recheck" gives: /sbin/grub-install: line 448: 10316 Segmentation fault Has anyone ever seen this? Dunno about others, but when I see a segfault, the 1st I'll suggest you do is memtest. -- Joe -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two emerge-related questions
1. Nothing wrong with using the system. The updates don't interfere with the stuff you are running. Liinux isn't like Windows in that respect. The only time I've gotten out of X was to upgrade from XFree86 to Xorg. 2. You're lucky. These are updates to config files and scripts so generally if you don't get the updates you haven't really updated your system. Run etc-update and carefully pay attention to what it wants to change. However, some files you should not update such as /etc/fstab and others. Etc-update will let you see what changes it's going to make and allow you to decide. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Walter Dnes wrote: 1) I notice some occasional mention of people continuing to use their systems while emerge is running. Intuitively, this seems like driving your car while mechanics are working on it. I shut down every X session and every text console except one root session running the actual emerge. Is this unnecessary? Are there any booby-traps to watch for if I want to use my system while "emerge --ask --deep --update --world" is running? 2) After a while I've found the messages (at the end of the emerge session) about config files, useless and rather annoying. I now execute rm `find /etc -iname '._cfg_*'` whenever such a message shows up. No problems... yet. Is it a good idea, or have I just been lucky? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
Well, I got it kind of working and did so by the doing the following. I say sort of because it worked fine before reboot. I set up the files as shown below and could to a ctl-alt-bkspc and I had three terminals. I played with this for a while and it always worked. However, when I rebooted the system hung and would not respond to the keyboard or mouse and it had a blank screen with the framebuffer image. It looks like it tried to start X and failed. At this point I'm not sure how to make it work. I know Caldera 2.4 could do it but this just isn't working and I've exhausted all I know. If anyone has any ideas I'd be greatful! 1. Create symlinks to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg for X0, X1, x2. 2. Modify /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X0 :0 :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X1 :1 :2 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X2 :2 3. I then modified /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config to create two more entries for each server. ! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console. DisplayManager._0.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 DisplayManager._0.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole_0 DisplayManager._0.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole_0 ! The following three resources set up display :1 as the console. DisplayManager._1.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_1 DisplayManager._1.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole_1 DisplayManager._1.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole_1 ! The following three resources set up display :2 as the console. DisplayManager._2.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_2 DisplayManager._1.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole_2 DisplayManager._1.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole_2 4. Copied the _x files from the main one. For example cp TakeConsole TakeConsole_1 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Some more research shows multiple ways to set up the Xserver lines Gentoo: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X Others: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 More: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 :0 and again :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
Some more research shows multiple ways to set up the Xserver lines Gentoo: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X Others: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 More: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 :0 and again :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 What is correct. Supposedly all I have to do is set them up that way. However, it doesn't work and I notice this in Xorg.0.log. Perhaps a permissions problem - or maybe Pam involved! Any ideas. AUDIT: Sat Feb 26 17:02:18 2005: 9224 X: client 9 rejected from local host Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 AUDIT: Sat Feb 26 17:02:33 2005: 9224 X: client 9 rejected from local host Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 AUDIT: Sat Feb 26 17:02:48 2005: 9224 X: client 9 rejected from local host Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: If I leave the :1 line uncommented and restart the machine I get the grey screen with no login box. I comment the line, then ctl-bkspc and I get a login box. Also, my Xserver file has no space between the : and the number 0 or 1. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can login. However, if I got to another console (say vt5) and run startx I am told that display 0 is in use - well of course it is! I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this: : 0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X : 1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X I've checked the bug about pam_env.conf messing up things so I commented out the display and Xauth lines but still does not work. What is the proper way to stop and restart X when running in this mode? I tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen with a cursor instead of a login box. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
Thanks. anyway. It gave me some ideas. I'm trying to remember from years ago . On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 18:49, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thank you. I will try this. I notice you have a name after "local" and and have the dispaly again after the /usr/bin/X. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 02:44, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X I use kdm and my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers (or /usr/kde/3.3/share/config/kdm/Xservers) looks like this: xsessions from F7 to F10 # :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8 :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9 :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10 I may have given you a bum steer here Brett. This setup is for KDE, it allows you to start up to three other KDM sessions by selecting "Start New Session..." from the K menu. I guess it wouldn't work from your xfce. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
I notice that in /etc/X11/xdm there is an Xsetup_0 file which starts display 0 evidently. Do I have to modify /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config to include startup entries for displays 1 and 2? On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 02:44, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X I use kdm and my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers (or /usr/kde/3.3/share/config/kdm/Xservers) looks like this: xsessions from F7 to F10 # :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8 :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9 :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10 -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
Thank you. I will try this. I notice you have a name after "local" and and have the dispaly again after the /usr/bin/X. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 02:44, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X I use kdm and my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers (or /usr/kde/3.3/share/config/kdm/Xservers) looks like this: xsessions from F7 to F10 # :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8 :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9 :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10 -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
Doing the startx -- :1 works. However, I shouldn't have to do that. On other distros I've set xdm up so it creates a couple of servers and if I do type startx it figures out where to put the display if display 0 is in use. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Ric de France wrote: Brett, On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:44:44 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen with a cursor instead of a login box. I don't know if this will help, but from the new virtual terminal line, try: $ startx -- :1 & The & is optional. That should start up another X display. You can then swap between them using Ctrl+Alt+Fx buttons... HTH, ...Ric -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
Yes, there should be an easier way. I run XFCE4, not KDE. Supposedly - and this has worked on other systems - if I set the XServers file up any new requests will go to the next available window. Thus startx will use display :1 when :0 is already in use and do it automatically. In fact on one system I had it start two or three xdm logins. I think there is something wrong on my system because if I uncomment the :1 line all I get is X with no login window. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Perral1 wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: If I leave the :1 line uncommented and restart the machine I get the grey screen with no login box. I comment the line, then ctl-bkspc and I get a login box. > > 'X :1' will start another X session. However, nothing is running. No window manager, no xterm, etc. In order to run programs there you have to 'export DISPLAY=:1.0' in the console and then ex to start kde run startkde. I've had some weird results though. There's probably a much easier way to do it, but I know that works. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
If I leave the :1 line uncommented and restart the machine I get the grey screen with no login box. I comment the line, then ctl-bkspc and I get a login box. Also, my Xserver file has no space between the : and the number 0 or 1. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can login. However, if I got to another console (say vt5) and run startx I am told that display 0 is in use - well of course it is! I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X I've checked the bug about pam_env.conf messing up things so I commented out the display and Xauth lines but still does not work. What is the proper way to stop and restart X when running in this mode? I tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen with a cursor instead of a login box. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Running multiple X logins
I start up using xdm and get an login window on vt7 from which I can login. However, if I got to another console (say vt5) and run startx I am told that display 0 is in use - well of course it is! I have /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers setup as this: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X I've checked the bug about pam_env.conf messing up things so I commented out the display and Xauth lines but still does not work. What is the proper way to stop and restart X when running in this mode? I tried /etc/init.d/xdm restart and that simply gives me a grey X screen with a cursor instead of a login box. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System is too big
Maybe all that complicated junk is if you want to put root on an LVM. I've only done one LVM2 so far on FC2/3 and it worked fine but I left /boot and /root off the LVM - it wasn't part of it. I' have a system that I'm going to install Gentoo on and use LVM2 and udev so Holly's experience is encouraging. On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Eric S. Johansson wrote: Holly Bostick wrote: I've never used genkernel, and I had lvm2 and udev working perfectly well together-- do you have the root partition on LVM or something (I didn't)? no. Even so, that's related to initrd generation, which is not the exclusive province of genkernel. I'm confused. so am I but for an entirely different reason ;-) so far, all the documentation I have seen speaks of creating either incredibly complicated large initrd images with mounting them up and copying in many file systems and all that crap. The other threads says just use genkernel and all will be much happy goodness. Since I'm trying to build xen on the system and have really no idea what my partition sizes are going to be, I really need lvm2. at times like these, I remind myself that most problems with computers are self-inflicted.. so I would welcome some suggestions on what's the best way to get udev and lvm working. --- eric -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list address - who's robin?
Well, I think the philosophy is that List-ID exists as part of the standards for mail transport so a decent client would handle it. They would provide the ability to filter on that field. From what I recall when I went through this one purpose of the header is to allow you to filter without worring about changes in list addresses. I had that happen some time ago when gentoo's mail address changed. I was filtering on the From address and someone pointed the List-id out to me. On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, A. Khattri wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Holly Bostick wrote: Not necessarily... obviously there's nothing one can do about gmail, but I just did a test on Thunderbird, which does not "natively" give you the List-Id header as a choice in the message filters fields. That's not the point though is it? - users shouldn't be *have* alter their setups to deal with this. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FireFox strange display
That seemed to have fixed it at least on that site. Thanks. On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Mike Noble wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett I. Holcomb wrote: | I'm running Firefox 1.0 and it has started behaving strangely. If I | Thanks. | Have you tried clearing the cache? This will cause it to get the data from the site and not use what is in cache. Mike - -- Mike Noble Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 0xFFDFC13B Key fingerprint: 8204 1297 B9AD 0CED 2FCE 1FB0 9491 5824 FFDF C13B Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCGQV/lJFYJP/fwTsRAtRyAJ4zGb9AhpAbLtePBNk+MJnAZgCfaKKz 7U196c1WQe8yrIopuObOznc= =/WsN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] FireFox strange display
I'm running Firefox 1.0 and it has started behaving strangely. If I click on a link I get a page full of squares with hex codes in them. The link is to a merchant page from pricegrabber.com. I've seen this once before and I ended up wiping out the firefox data for my user and letting firefox start all over. I hate to have to keep doing that if there is a better solution. Any ideas on what this might be and how to fix it? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how can I recmompile everything from scratch?
Instead of redoing everything just fro two programs I'd recommend finding out what is wrong with them. Do you get errors - if so what are they. If you really want to redo it first emerge -C the telnet and postfix packages and then reinstall them. On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Living India wrote: Hi, I want to recompile everything from scratch...and also want to re-initilize installation/config files in /etc dir...etc etc. Can I do it? what will be the process/commands? Prob is telnet & postfix is not working... they timeout when I do something. (there is NO firewall in my env) Pls advice. Thanks, Amit _ The real power of teamwork. Experience it in real time. http://www.microsoft.com/india/office/experience/ Experience MS Office System. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging udev: is it sane?
Has worked for months here. Check out the udev tutorial on Gentoo and the links in the tutorial. I'm running an all udev system. On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Christoph Eckert wrote: Hi, a short question: I'd like to start playing with udev, but I'd like to not mess up my system. Is it save to emerge it, or will it remove existing parts of my current system, or affect it in any way? Thanks for any hint. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wants to merge Openmotif
emerge -uD world -p shows portage wants to merge openmotif. Both qpkg and equery d show nothing depends on openmotif so how do I find out what is trying to pull in openmotif? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FireFox Search Extentions don't work
Not as a regular user. As I found out I had to run firefox as root, add the engines. Then they are there. It is a permissions problem with a directory in /usr/lib. On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Tom Van Doorsselaere wrote: Klik in Firefox on the 'Add engines ...' button and choose the engine you want. If you then hover over the link to the engine you want, you see at the bottom left corner something like: "javascript:addEngine('wikipedia','png','Reference')". Go to /usr/lib/MozillaFirefox/searchplugins and su to root. Then punch in the command: wget http://mycroft.mozdev.org/plugins/wikipedia.{src,png}. 'wikipedia' is the first argument of the addEngine and the imagefile extension is the second argument of the addEngine. Restart Firefox and the added engines should be there. Tom Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have firefox 1.0 installed. When I go to the search bar and tell it to install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they never show up. Any ideas. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FireFox Search Extentions don't work
Thank you. I did try the install as root yesterday, then tried firefox as a user and it wasn't there but it is today. Regular extensions do work for me. Sounds like firefox needs to rethink some of this. On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Petter Häggholm wrote: Collins Richey wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:55:22 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have firefox 1.0 installed. When I go to the search bar and > tell it to > install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they > never show > up. Any ideas. > > > I've been using Firefox a long time, but I'm not sure what the "search bar" is? Installing regular extensions should work fine as a user (does for me) since they're stored in users' home directories; search plugins in particular sadly won't work off the shelf, so to speak, since only root has access to /usr/lib/MozillaFirefox/searchplugins, which must be modified. Personally, I just change the permissions of the directory so I can install search plugins as a user; alternatively, you could fire up Firefox as root (no need to startx as root!). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FireFox Search Extentions don't work
The search bar is at the far right on my firefox and has Google emblem with a space to type the search request. If you click on the logo you get a drop down list where you can add engines. It works fine in Windows - but they don't worry about permissions anyway . I can add search engines as root but not as my user so I think it is a permissions problem. How to fix it I don't know as I can't see anything wrong with my permissions. That's been one of the biggest problems with firefox. For some reason many add-on installs don't work unless you are root but root can't install it for you. Thanks. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Collins Richey wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:55:22 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have firefox 1.0 installed. When I go to the search bar and tell it to install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they never show up. Any ideas. I've been using Firefox a long time, but I'm not sure what the "search bar" is? OTOH, I've never had much luck installing extensions from a normal user. If I'm going to install extensions, I startx as root, then do my extension work, then log out. Any other way, file permissions get in the way. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
You had the answer in the password request - nothing in the docs about that and I'm running it as root. Nothing in messages. When I run ntop it spits out a bunch of messages then stops. No password prompt at all. So this time I hit the return key when it stopped printing messages and I got the password prompt. It continued on and now I can connect to it. I'm not sure why I had to hit the return key to get the prompt. Thanks. On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Richard Robson wrote: On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 00:34 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with ntop when first ran asks for a password, so run ntop as root first. You can then start it on boot up using rc-update, etc. If you've done that and connection is still refused, the problem lies with ntop, check out the logs (/var/log/messages, etc) for any issues. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] FireFox Search Extentions don't work
I have firefox 1.0 installed. When I go to the search bar and tell it to install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they never show up. Any ideas. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hello
Nope . I hit the compose key while in the maillist but thinking I was in my mailbox. Maybe I need to just go to bed . On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Collins Richey wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:25:41 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Haven't heard from you for a while. I hope all is well with you. All is well here, but I don't think you meant to send this to the list, or ??? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Hello
Haven't heard from you for a while. I hope all is well with you. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
Did that - started ,then stopped. Still get connection refused. On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 13 February 2005 00:49, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. ### ## #!/bin/bash # /usr/local/bin/my-ntop sudo ntop & sleep 10 firefox http://localhost:3000 ### ## That works for me. Thanks. I've got something else wrong as that doesn't work. I get the connection refused whether I run firefox as root or myself. Before you do the above, do `/etc/init.d/ntop start -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
Thanks. I've got something else wrong as that doesn't work. I get the connection refused whether I run firefox as root or myself. On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. # #!/bin/bash # /usr/local/bin/my-ntop sudo ntop & sleep 10 firefox http://localhost:3000 # That works for me. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
,On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. Thanks. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Richard Robson wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote: > Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? > > that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much > etc ? My favorites are iftop for instant monitoring, ntop for constant monitoring, tcpdump/ethereal for packet capturing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. Thanks. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Richard Robson wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? My favorites are iftop for instant monitoring, ntop for constant monitoring, tcpdump/ethereal for packet capturing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants to downgrade xfce4
Check the bug on this - I filed one. The answer for me was that I had xfce4-themes-4.0.6 still installed. An emerge -C on this fixed that. On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: and as a result has a blocker. any ideas? emerge -pvD world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ...done! [blocks B ] >=xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.99.2 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.0.6) [ebuild U ] x11-terms/root-tail-1.2-r1 [1.2] 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-arch/cpio-2.6-r1 [2.5] +nls 437 kB [ebuild U ] media-tv/freevo-1.5.2 [1.5.1] +X +dvd +encode -lirc -matrox +nls 4,076 kB [ebuild U ] media-libs/libpng-1.2.8 [1.2.7-r1] -debug 375 kB [ebuild U ] dev-util/meld-0.9.4.1 [0.9.0-r1] 325 kB [ebuild U ] dev-lang/f2c-20030320-r1 [20030320] 0 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-1.5p [1.5m-r2] -debug +nls 228 kB [ebuild U ] net-im/gaim-1.1.2 [1.1.1] -cjk -debug -eds -gnutls +nas +nls +perl -silc +spell 5,057 kB [ebuild U ] mail-client/nail-11.20 [11.18] +ssl 260 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.01 [2.00] 1,632 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/procps-3.2.4-r2 [3.2.4-r1] -debug 0 kB [ebuild U ] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-2-r1 [2] 0 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/mmpython-0.4.7 [0.4.5] +dvd 120 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/iproute2-2.6.10.20050112-r1 [2.6.9.20041019-r1] -atm -minimal 300 kB [ebuild U ] sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r3 [1.8.5-r2] (-uclibc) 0 kB [ebuild U ] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-1-r1 [1] 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-antivirus/clamav-0.82 [0.80] +crypt -debug -milter (-selinux) 3,482 kB [ebuild U ] sys-kernel/genkernel-3.1.0h [3.1.0e] -bootsplash 2,495 kB [ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.3.4-r1 [2.3.4] +X +berkdb -bootstrap -build -debug -doc +gdbm +ipv6* +ncurses +readline +ssl +tcltk -ucs2 0 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-5.2.1-r4 [5.2.1-r2] -acl* -build -debug +nls (-selinux) -static (-uclibc) 68 kB [ebuild U ] media-video/ogle-0.9.2 [0.9.1] +alsa -mmx +oss +xv 477 kB [ebuild U ] media-video/ogle-gui-0.9.2 [0.9.1] +gtk2 +nls 387 kB [ebuild U ] media-sound/qjackctl-0.2.14 [0.2.13] 229 kB [ebuild U ] app-emulation/vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r3 [4.5.2.8848-r2] 257 kB [ebuild U ] app-arch/dar-2.1.5-r1 [2.1.5] -acl -debug 0 kB [ebuild U ] mail-client/sylpheed-1.0.0 [0.9.99] +crypt -gnome +imlib +ipv6* +ldap +nls -pda +ssl -xface 2,300 kB [ebuild U ] mail-mta/postfix-2.1.5-r2 [2.1.5-r1] +ipv6* +ldap -mailwrapper -mbox +mysql +pam -postgres -sasl (-selinux) +ssl -vda 301 kB [ebuild U ] app-misc/livecd-tools-1.0.13 [1.0.10] +X +opengl 5 kB [ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7d-r2] -debug -emacs (-uclibc) 2,971 kB [ebuild U ] sys-devel/libtool-1.5.10-r4 [1.5.10-r3] (-uclibc) 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-admin/tmpwatch-2.9.2.1 [2.9.1.1] 18 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/psmisc-21.5 [21.4] +nls (-selinux) 373 kB [ebuild N] net-libs/courier-authlib-0.53 +berkdb +crypt -debug +gdbm +ldap +mysql +pam -postgres (-uclibc) 1,920 kB [ebuild U ] net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1 [3.0.8] +berkdb -debug +fam +gdbm +ipv6* +nls (-selinux) 2,961 kB [ebuild U ] net-firewall/firehol-1.224 [1.214] 115 kB [ebuild U ] x11-base/opengl-update-2.0_pre5 [2.0_pre4-r1] 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3 [2.1.30-r6] -debug 5,029 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/lsof-4.73 [4.71] -debug -static 999 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.0.6 [4.2.0] 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +X -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +X 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.0.6 [4.2.0] 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +X 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfprint-4.0.6 [4.2.0] 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xffm-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +samba 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +X 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +X -gnome +gtkhtml 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +X 0 kB [ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.0.6 [4.2.0] +X 0 kB [ebuild N] xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.0.6 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-text/enscript-1.6.3-r3 [1.6.3-r1] +nls 795 kB [ebuild U ] net-im/skype-1.0.0.1-r1 [0.91.0.3] +arts +esd -static 5,783 kB [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libpcre-5.0 [4.5] -debug 454 kB Total size of downloads: 44,244 kB -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - XFCE4 Startup?
Check the docs and use the ~/.Desktop/Autostart directory. On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jans Han Xie wrote: hi, I have recently experiented XFCE4 and I think it's really good. But the only problem is I can't find how to setting start-up programs. For example, I hope gdesklets can be loaded at the time when XFCE start up. What should I do? Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
Yes, it was. CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y Thanks. On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Frédéric Grosshans wrote: Le dimanche 06 février 2005 à 12:17 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb a écrit : Tried them and they work - but I wonder what's wrong with my system in that it won't mount a dos floppy. Ext2 floppy works fine. Is your kernel compiled with the following option ? File systems -> Partition Types -> Advanced partition selection [*] PC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support Fred -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
Bingo -. Now to find out what I did differently on each system. Thank you. messages:Feb 6 11:56:55 gandalf FAT: codepage cp437 not found messages:Feb 6 11:57:26 gandalf FAT: codepage cp437 not found On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Mariusz [iso-8859-2] Pêkala wrote: don't you have to give a default codepage as a mount option for (v)fat, since recently? I'm not sure about the codepage. There is a default set in the kernel build. I believe if that would be the case you might find some error messages in syslog about 'module cp- not found' or sth like that. The default set of codepages in kernel config is pretty small. You may try to enable more or all of them, rebuild kernel and then try to mount the floppy. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerged world, now can't su
Are you still in the wheel group? On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Mike Payson wrote: I just ran 'emerge -u world' for the first time in about three weeks, and ran dispatch-conf to update my config files. Now, when I try to su to root, I always get permission denied. I'm certain that I'm typing the password, but to be safe, I have reset the password twice now with no luck. The user is in the wheel group. I believe that their was a PAM config file that was updated, but I assumed that since I hadn't changed the old one, it would be safe to replace it with the new one. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More scripting help please...
There is also an Advanced Bash tutorial on the web. I don't have the URL handy but search for it. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Sunday 06 February 2005 09:12 am, "Mal Herring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: are there any good HOW-TO's about bash scripting - i would not mind learning more about this... All I ever needed to know about bash scripting I learned from "info bash". -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
On my system I have DOS, VFAT as part of the kernel, not modules. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 06 February 2005 16:58, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thanks. I tried that and it did not work. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 06 February 2005 01:42, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: ls -lad /mnt/floppy drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 19 23:48 /mnt/floppy # lsmod|grep vfat vfat 10496 13 fat34720 1 vfat -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
Tried them and they work - but I wonder what's wrong with my system in that it won't mount a dos floppy. Ext2 floppy works fine. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Marc Redmann wrote: Hi Brett, I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error: to access a dos-floppy you could alternatively use the package "sys-fs/mtools" brgds, Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
Thanks. I may try that but I am concerned that I can not mount DOS floppies on this system which may indicate a problem. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Marc Redmann wrote: Hi Brett, I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error: to access a dos-floppy you could alternatively use the package "sys-fs/mtools" brgds, Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
Thanks. I tried that and it did not work. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 06 February 2005 01:42, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error: /dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0 vfat noauto,user,exec,nohide 0 0 Mine looks like this: /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto sync,users,noauto,rw 0 0 ls -lad /mnt/floppy drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 19 23:48 /mnt/floppy -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
I'm not sure about the codepage. There is a default set in the kernel build. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sunday 06 February 2005 03:10, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: fat asks if I mean vfat so I used vfat. Both vfat and msdos give me the try the types as msdos or fat and see if it makes a difference. don't you have to give a default codepage as a mount option for (v)fat, since recently? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
fat asks if I mean vfat so I used vfat. Both vfat and msdos give me the same error. On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 17:50 -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems try the types as msdos or fat and see if it makes a difference. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
Here it is drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 6 Jan 13 22:21 fd0 Thanks. On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Ted Ozolins wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems I've searched, didn't find any real answers. I checked this system against another Gentoo system that works just fine and mounts the floppy. What am I doing wrong. MSDOS and Vfat are compiled into the kernel. Thanks. /etc/fstab entry is shown below. # # Floppy # /dev/fd0/mnt/fd0vfat noauto,user,exec,nohide 0 0 does /mnt/fd0 exist? ls /mnt and see. If not mkdir /mnt/fd0 and try again. Cheers -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mounting Dos disk
I have a DOS floppy I try and mount but get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems I've searched, didn't find any real answers. I checked this system against another Gentoo system that works just fine and mounts the floppy. What am I doing wrong. MSDOS and Vfat are compiled into the kernel. Thanks. /etc/fstab entry is shown below. # # Floppy # /dev/fd0/mnt/fd0vfat noauto,user,exec,nohide 0 0 -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] newsgroup reader recommendations
Thunderbird does newsgroups. On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Frank Lynch wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:43:38 -0800, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I never use newsgroups but my dad has and wants something simple to work along side of Firefox since (apparently) the newsreader is stripped out of that program. What's recommended for a non-experienced user. Mostly I just want it to be easy for him and not too difficult for me to set up. try http://groups.google.com certainly the easiest to setup or pan a gnome/gtk based news reader... very easy to setup --Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia with Kernel-2.6.10-r6
Rebuild the module while you are running on the kernel you want to use that module in. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Captain FantastiK wrote: HI I tried with older version 6111 downloaderd from Nvidia, but the installer was unable to load kernel module `nvidia.ko`. This is most likely because the kernel modules was built with the wrong kernel source files... How to fix this pleae ? cApTaiN_FaNtAsTiK From: Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia with Kernel-2.6.10-r6 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:01:44 + On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:48:58 +1300 (NZDT), Nick Rout wrote: > > You should definitely try the older NVidia driver, 1.0.6111. > I don't see that card as a barrier to the 6629 driver or the 2.6.10-r6 You don't, but others do. It is worth the OP's trying with the older driver. -- Neil Bothwick "Bother," said Pooh, as he drained the vodka bottle dry. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list _ Des mécanismes de contrôle parental puissants permettent à votre enfant de découvrir tout ce quInternet a à offrir. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-ca&page=features/parental&ST=1&xAPID=1983&DI=2043 Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites
Will do . On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Ralph Slooten wrote: Ralph Slooten wrote: `emerge xfce4` Sorry, missread ;-) morning blues I guess. Please ignore. Ralph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites
I've done that. All themes are installed. I'm interested in how to install the theme tarballs I'd download under Gentoo. On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Caleb Jacobs wrote: emrge -s xfce to search for xfce4 stuff On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:12:18 +0100, Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: `emerge xfce4` Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one install these in xfce under gentoo? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites
I did that - put these extra themes are not part of portage are they? On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Ralph Slooten wrote: `emerge xfce4` Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one install these in xfce under gentoo? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce related websites
How does one install these in xfce under gentoo? On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Valarie and Nick Schmidt wrote: http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/963/ On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:43:29 +, Joel Merrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just gone from Gnome & Ext3 -> Xfce 4.2, NPTL, Reiser4 and RAID1 Jesus! What a difference!!! I must say that I'm beginning to prefer Xfce to Gnome. Does anyone have any good links to Xfce related sites? T.I.A. Joel -- Joel Merrick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4
That did the trick! Thanks. The manual looks much improved. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Kristian Niemi wrote: As Xfce4-2:s friendly manual[1] explained to me, I have to add "/usr/libexec/xfsm-shutdown-helper" to be accessed by sudoers; i.e., adding /sbin/shutdown doesn't do it for xfce4. So I have the following in my /etc/sudoers -file: --- Cmnd_Alias SHUTDOWN = /sbin/shutdown, /usr/libexec/xfsm-shutdown-helper myuser ALL = NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN --- Without adding the xfsm-shutdown-helper it didn't work for me either, after I added it: no problems. Hope it helps. h: Kristian [1] Most likely found on your local system as well, but an online version is available at, for instance, the following location: http://www.loculus.nl/xfce/documentation/docs-4.2/xfce4-session.html Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Nope. I added myuser localhost=/sbin/shutdown using visudo. I logged out, logged back in and still no options. Sudo is installed. I left the %users localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now commented as I don't want all users to be able to do this. What am I missing? On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Aaron Kulbe wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hm, this is interesting. I installed 4.2 when it became stable over > > the weekend and it has the power off or reboot grayed out. I know > > xfce4 4.2 has configure options to enable this but the ebuild doesn't > > show any use flags for it and I haven't had a chance to investigate > > further. Howe do I get it to let me do this. My user is a member of > > the wheel group and can do su -. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > From: Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 06:03:14 GMT > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4 > > > > xfce4 version 4.2 is now stable on x86. It has options to reboot > > or halt > > > when you use the exit button from the panel. if you want to halt or > > > reboot you need to give your user password. > > > > On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 07:42 +, Russ Brown wrote: > > > > > HK wrote: > > > > > > > n_powell wrote: > > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > Having just gone through this, I know how to get it done. > > You need to install sudo, and your user needs to be configured in the > /etc/sudoers file. man sudoers will give you the info for this. > > In the /etc/sudoers file, there are options for shutdown that are > commented by default. Uncomment them and you will have access to the > shutdown/reboot options from withing XFCE4. > > Aaron Kulbe > a.k.a. SuperLag on FreeNode. > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4
Nope. I added myuser localhost=/sbin/shutdown using visudo. I logged out, logged back in and still no options. Sudo is installed. I left the %users localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now commented as I don't want all users to be able to do this. What am I missing? On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Aaron Kulbe wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, this is interesting. I installed 4.2 when it became stable over the weekend and it has the power off or reboot grayed out. I know xfce4 4.2 has configure options to enable this but the ebuild doesn't show any use flags for it and I haven't had a chance to investigate further. Howe do I get it to let me do this. My user is a member of the wheel group and can do su -. Thanks. > From: Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/01/27 Thu AM 06:03:14 GMT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4 > > xfce4 version 4.2 is now stable on x86. It has options to reboot or halt > when you use the exit button from the panel. if you want to halt or > reboot you need to give your user password. > > On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 07:42 +, Russ Brown wrote: > > > HK wrote: > > > > > n_powell wrote: > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Having just gone through this, I know how to get it done. You need to install sudo, and your user needs to be configured in the /etc/sudoers file. man sudoers will give you the info for this. In the /etc/sudoers file, there are options for shutdown that are commented by default. Uncomment them and you will have access to the shutdown/reboot options from withing XFCE4. Aaron Kulbe a.k.a. SuperLag on FreeNode. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] exiting wm xfce4
Thank you. I'll try that. On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Aaron Kulbe wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, this is interesting. I installed 4.2 when it became stable over the weekend and it has the power off or reboot grayed out. I know xfce4 4.2 Having just gone through this, I know how to get it done. You need to install sudo, and your user needs to be configured in the /etc/sudoers file. man sudoers will give you the info for this. In the /etc/sudoers file, there are options for shutdown that are commented by default. Uncomment them and you will have access to the shutdown/reboot options from withing XFCE4. Aaron Kulbe a.k.a. SuperLag on FreeNode. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers
It won't? I have a TI500 and run MOH (all three) and HL in it. On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: Hi Tony, The NVidia wouldn't run Half life or Medal of Honour in XP though, that's why I bought the ATI. Makes sense. I hate to offer this next suggestion as it's a plain shot in the dark, but maybe try - emerge -eat ati-drivers-extra Then reboot when all is done. Bob -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xfce4-4.2 and xfce-base-4.0.6
I filed a bug because I did what they said. Removed the base, installed 4.2. Next day and emerge -uD world -p wants to downgrade a bunch of stuff to 4.06! I guess I could do an emerge -C on all stuff it wants to downgrade but I'd like to know what broke. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Bill Davidson wrote: On 16:39 Sun 23 Jan , Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:16:19 + (UTC), heide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, unable to solve a problem with emerging xfce4, please forgive me for consulting this kind list. Last week an emerge -uvDa --newuse world upgraded xfce4 from xfce-4.0.6 to 4.2 and it worked fine. Now, another emerge -uvDa --newuse world gives me: [blocks B ] xfce-base/xfce4-base (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.0) After this removal the emerge -uvDa --newuse world wanted to install xfce4-base-4.0.6 again and the block was the same as the original one above. Should I file a bug or is this behavior just because of me trying to do some silly things? My suggestion is: this is a bug. I encountered the same problem. I was too lazy to report, so I just did emerge -C on everything in xfce-base and xfce-extra. Then I restarted the emerge. The developers have screwed up something, so I'm sure they would appreciate a hint. hmmm. I just upgraded today. I did a "emerge -C xfce4-base" beforehand and everythin went smoothly from there. Bill -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels
At this point I'd do the emerge -C whateversourcethisis, then reemerge it - after a sync. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, A. Khattri wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: It should. Sounds like something is wrong with the file. I don't remember any { in .config. Maybe this is something in the Makefile? I found this: # grep { Makefile sed -ne "/^->/{s:^->\([^ ]*\) [\$$#]*\([^ ]*\) \(.*\):#define \1 \2 /* \3 */:; s:->::; p;}"; \ Examining the Makefile further: define filechk_gen-asm-offsets (set -e; \ echo "#ifndef __ASM_OFFSETS_H__"; \ echo "#define __ASM_OFFSETS_H__"; \ echo "/*"; \ echo " * DO NOT MODIFY."; \ echo " *"; \ echo " * This file was generated by arch/$(ARCH)/Makefile"; \ echo " *"; \ echo " */"; \ echo ""; \ sed -ne "/^->/{s:^->\([^ ]*\) [\$$#]*\([^ ]*\) \(.*\):#define \1 \2 /* \3 */:; s:->::; p;}"; \ echo ""; \ echo "#endif" ) endef No { in any of my kernel configs: # grep { /boot/config-2.6.* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels
It should. Sounds like something is wrong with the file. I don't remember any { in .config. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, A. Khattri wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: No. If you have no .config file you just copy it from another kernel directory and then run make oldconfig. If you have one already you can back it up if you want otherwise it won't make a difference. This is what I thought - so copying my old config over should work: # cd /usr/src/linux # ls -a ./ .config.old .tmp_vmlinux2* Makefilee fs/ patches.txt ../.tmp_System.map .versionModule.symvers include/ scripts/ ..tmp_kallsyms1.o.cmd .tmp_kallsyms1.S .vmlinux.cmdREADME init/ security/ ..tmp_kallsyms2.o.cmd .tmp_kallsyms1.o COPYING REPORTING-BUGS ipc/ sound/ ..tmp_vmlinux1.cmd .tmp_kallsyms2.S CREDITS System.map kernel/ usr/ ..tmp_vmlinux2.cmd .tmp_kallsyms2.o Documentation/ arch/ lib/ vmlinux* .config.tmp_versions/MAINTAINERS crypto/ mm/ .config.cmd.tmp_vmlinux1*Makefiledrivers/net/ # cp /boot/config-2.6.9-gentoo-r1 .config cp: overwrite `.config'? y # make oldconfig Missing }. # make menuconfig Missing }. # As you can see, no config targets work at all. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels
No. If you have no .config file you just copy it from another kernel directory and then run make oldconfig. If you have one already you can back it up if you want otherwise it won't make a difference. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Francisco Ares wrote: > AFAIK, you have to rename your old ".config" as ".config.old" > > Hope this helps > Francisco > > > A. Khattri wrote: > >> Ive had this problem for the last few 2.6 kernel releases. >> >> After emerging a kernel, I copy my old config over and then try and merge >> it before building a new kernel: > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge problem with e100
On my system with an e100 I built it as a module during the kernel build and then load it at startup. Did you try that? On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Richard Foltyn wrote: > On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 00:21 +0100, pat wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I've setup new system and compile the kernel (2.6.10-r1) and I want to >> install >> network card. I did "emerge e100" after kernel compilation, but I have >> received error (in attachement). Did I something wrong ??? > > Maybe you don't really need the e100 package to get your NIC running. > The necessary module should be part of every kernel and works without > problems. I don't even have the e100 package installed. > > My NIC: > Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) > Ethernet Controller (rev 42) > > Kernel Config: > CONFIG_E100=m > CONFIG_E100_NAPI=y > > Hope this helps, > richard > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo will never support vpn based on pptp. It's pity but it's fact.
Same here. I use a Cisco VPN client. It simply installs and runs. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: > On Sunday 23 January 2005 12:06, Heinz Sporn wrote: >> Please let me note - for the members of our list that don't share the > > At work, I use the Cisco VPN client (net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des) with > Gentoo. I had a couple of configuration problems initially because the > support people at our Web service provider didn't know a thing about > the Linux client, so I was more or less on my own. But after reading > some documentation and applying common sense, it Just Works[TM]. > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ulimate Gentoo Box
I use -O2. I would advise you to check the mail list for the extensive discussions about optimazations that has occured. In short you can do what you want but if you break your system - tough luck . Some optimizations can cause problems with various apps. I also have to wonder if some of the optimizations really do anything to make up for the trouble they cause. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Nick Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 19:54 -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote: >> Nick Smith wrote: -O3 is more optimized than -O2, but those optimizations usually make the >> > so in your guys experience/opinion what would you use? > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ATI RAge XL
I have one system with an onboard ATI Rage XL. Is it even possible to get opengl working with this card? I've looked at the Gentoo hardware 3d docs and the ati-gatos but they don't explicitly mention this card. I've been using Nvidia so I'm not really sure what is what in the ATI line. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm problem
If you've merged with portage and then added RPM the RPM program will not know what's in portage so it will think you have nothing. RPM has it's own database which at this point is empty. The only way to fill it is to use RPM to install stuff. But why do you want RPM when you have portage? On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > Cheryl Homiak wrote: > >> However, last night I emerged rpm and tried to use it. I get weird stuff >> about things I know are on the system and in the path rpm SHOULD be able >> to see being needed--for instance: >> /bin/sh is needed ... > > Doesn't RPM use it's own package database, sort of like portage? If you > haven't installed everything with RPM, wouldn't the database be empty? > Perhaps find a way to build that database or else use --force. > > You might consider posting to a Red Hat/Fedora list. They typically know > the ins and outs of RPM. > > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D desktop / workplace switcher
Did you do anything special with the conf files? On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Nick Rout wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 22:21 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Jan Callewaert wrote: >> Has anyone used 3ddesktop with xfce4? If so what were the results? > > as a result of this thread i did so and it works :-) > > > >> >> >>> * Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-12 22:49:16 +1100]: >>> >>>> Hi Gentoo users, >>>> >>>> I usually use the Gnome desktop and the way I change workspaces / >>>> desktops / workplaces is by clicking on the different squares on the >>>> >>>> -- >>>> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >>>> >>> >>> That's 3ddesktop: emerge 3ddesktop >>> >>> Jan >>> >> >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D desktop / workplace switcher
Thank you. I am going to try it. On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Nick Rout wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 22:21 -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Jan Callewaert wrote: >> Has anyone used 3ddesktop with xfce4? If so what were the results? > > as a result of this thread i did so and it works :-) > > > >> >> >>> * Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-12 22:49:16 +1100]: >>> >>>> Hi Gentoo users, >>>> >>>> I usually use the Gnome desktop and the way I change workspaces / >>>> desktops / workplaces is by clicking on the different squares on the >>>> >>>> -- >>>> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >>>> >>> >>> That's 3ddesktop: emerge 3ddesktop >>> >>> Jan >>> >> >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail client
It's whatever you prefer . I use Pine and like it. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Maarten wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 02:57, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: >> Pine is a good one. > > Huh ? > Wasn't Pine [Pine Is Not Elm] renamed a while ago to Ping [Pine Is Not Good] ? > > Joking aside, I think mutt is a better client in many respects, but pine can > do the job, if the circumstances are favourable to pine that is... > > Maarten > >> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, John Dangler wrote: >>> Can someone recommend a mail client I can load for commandline access? >>> I'm having some problems with a baseline backup and don't want to load >>> the X environment until I get this baseline backed up. Thanks. Any >>> input is appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >> >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail client
Pine is a good one. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, John Dangler wrote: > Can someone recommend a mail client I can load for commandline access? I'm > having some problems with a baseline backup and don't want to load the X > environment until I get this baseline backed up. Thanks. Any input is > appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D desktop / workplace switcher
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Jan Callewaert wrote: Has anyone used 3ddesktop with xfce4? If so what were the results? > * Ric de France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-12 22:49:16 +1100]: > >> Hi Gentoo users, >> >> I usually use the Gnome desktop and the way I change workspaces / >> desktops / workplaces is by clicking on the different squares on the >> >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> > > That's 3ddesktop: emerge 3ddesktop > > Jan > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tool to keep up the time?
emerge ntp - the man ntp. On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, myang wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any package in the portage which can automatically connect to > certain server, > get the exact time and automatically adjust the time of my machine? It > seems my machine always behind the current time. Thanks! > > MF > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem / cups
Nope, didn't work. Maybe tomorrow there will be an updated ebuild. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > There is a bug on this - the ebuild has a bad SRC_URI. I just did another > sync and the cups ebuild shows up as being downloaded. As soon as portage > stops udating it's cache I'll see if that fixes the problem. > > On Fri, 7 Jan > 2005, Joseph wrote: > >> Yes, this is the case. >> What puzzled me is that I couldn't find new ebuild even on Gentoo >> server; it appeared maybe two hours after I rsync. >> >> > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem / cups
There is a bug on this - the ebuild has a bad SRC_URI. I just did another sync and the cups ebuild shows up as being downloaded. As soon as portage stops udating it's cache I'll see if that fixes the problem. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Joseph wrote: > Yes, this is the case. > What puzzled me is that I couldn't find new ebuild even on Gentoo > server; it appeared maybe two hours after I rsync. > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem / cups
Maybe the package hasn't made it to the mirrors yet. The ebuild can exist but not the packages. Try again later. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Joseph wrote: > When I try to "emerge -uDav world" it is trying to upgrade cups to newer > version that doesn't exist! > > Calculating world dependencies ...done! > [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23 [1.1.23_rc1] > > When I try to compile it I get: > !!! Couldn't download cups-1.1.23-source.tar.bz2. Aborting. > > But checking the latest ebuilds the most current version is 1.1.23_rc1 > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up 2.6 system from scratch
Devfs will keep the old names. My /etc/devfsd.conf file has a setting that tells it to keep old names and it was on by default. Kathy Wills wrote: Collins Richey wrote: Cool. Does it do anything for you that devfs doesn't? I haven't noticed any difference other that it doesn't change (on my system anyway) a lot of the names of devices like devfs did. If I want for example /dev/hda3, I don't have to go looking for it under /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3. I just look for /dev/hda3. It makes it a lot easier for me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where to define shell aliases?
I put my aliases, environment variables, etc. in /etc/bash.rc and I modified /etc/skel/.bash_profile to source this file. Thus users get whatever is in /etc/bash.rc. Sven Köhler wrote: hi, till now i still write my aliases to /etc/portage, but shouldn't there be a better way? i remember a distro where /etc/portage included some file like /etc/aliases which containes the common aliases like alias ls=ls --color or such stuff. so what do you think? should this be improved? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pretty CUPS frontend
You're welcome. Anthony Hoppe wrote: Thanks. On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 13:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a browswer http://localhost:631 and you'll get the cups admin tool. From: Anthony Hoppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2004/02/11 Wed PM 12:53:32 GMT To: Gentoo-User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [gentoo-user] Pretty CUPS frontend __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lis t -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage borked?
Try running ldconfig and see what happens. Simon Matthews wrote: Can anyone shed any light on this: # emerge -upD world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies -Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 2513, in ? if not mydepgraph.xcreate(myaction): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 1105, in xcreate myeb=portage.portdb.xmatch("bestmatch-visible",mydep) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4673, in xmatch myval=best(self.xmatch("match-visible",None,mydep,mykey)) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4684, in xmatch myval=match_from_list(mydep,self.xmatch("list-visible",None,mydep,mykey)) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4670, in xmatch myval=self.gvisible(self.visible(self.cp_list(mykey))) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4716, in visible mymatches=self.xmatch("match-all",x) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 4688, in xmatch myval=match_from_list(mydep,self.cp_list(mykey)) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 3531, in match_from_list raise KeyError, "Specific key requires an operator (%s) (try adding an '=')" % (mydep) KeyError: "Specific key requires an operator (app-editors/vim-6.2-r5) (try adding an '=')" Please help! Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge wants to downgrade Alsa.
Doesn't work either. Thanks, though. Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sunday 08 Feb 2004 21:39, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How do I tell portage that I want to have these installed and I'm tired of hearing they should be downgraded. I tried adding the libs to /etc/portage/package.unmask but the merge then tells me they are blocked by the ~keyword. Have you tried putting the 0.9.8 versions in /etc/portage/package.mask? I know this works to stop portage doing unwanted upgrades, I expect it should work for downgrades too. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge wants to downgrade Alsa.
I thought about -i but would like to find another way - if there is one. Maybe portage-ng will fix a lot of this. Jerry McBride wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2004 05:25 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I use the -D to keep dependencies updated. I'd use the -U if it worked. So my question remains - a) can I tell portage to realize that the alsa stuff I have installed is okay - is it possible and b) how do I get -U to work also. I know I'll get flamed for this... but in my humble opinion portage has some serious bugs in it still. Along with your malfunctioning -U switch, I've seen any number of odd behavours from it. Seeing all the increments in the portage tree, maybe this will all be fixed one day soon. That aside, I just "emerge -i " the offending ebuild and I'm never bothered for it again... Untill the next broken ebuild is tossed into portage, that is.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list