[gentoo-user] KDM Update
Hey everyone! I just upgraded KDE to 3.4 and am wondering how to replace KDM 3.2.2 with KDM 3.4? Thanks! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] KDM Update
Hey everyone! I just upgraded KDE to 3.4 and am wondering how to replace KDM 3.2.2 with KDM 3.4? Thanks! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] Going to X.org
Hey! Yes, its hard to believe, but Im sadly still on XFree. Can someone tell me in simple terms how to convert? KDE 3.4 has the genuine transparency thing, right? Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] A Windows shell Im creating
Michael Sullivan wrote: While we're on the subject of VB let me ask a question. I'm curious: Is there a clone of VB6 for Gentoo? I know about Gambas, but Gambas doesn't have a lot of the features I've grown used to in VB over the past several years, and I don't find the help system very helpful... -Michael Sullivan- Have you looked into Mono? I heard something about version 1.18 being in the portage tree, now...? Ian On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 13:29 -0600, Keith Gable wrote: Yes, this is something serious. Know how 16 bit apps are depreciated in XP? Sort of the same thing. In Longhorn, non-.NET VB/C apps will run depreciated. C is not a problem; just recompile with VS 7.0's cc. VB, however, is. VB.NET is totally different from VB6. Fortunately, though, Sun has every intention of making Java support Avalon, WinFX, Indigo, and all the hot new .NET/Longhorn stuff. I would recommend Java over VB any day. As for the OP, this is like way offtopic. Like, this is entirely the wrong domain name to be sending this message to. The wrong operating system even. That said, why not look at Litestep? Their several years worth of work is much better than anything you can throw up in VB in the time you have. May require you to learn C, but I'm managing it, so you can too (yes, I know VB like the back of my hand; I wrote a server in it ffs [yes, that's a bad idea, don't mention it]). Open formats for themes are present in LiteStep and BlackBox. Use their themes (or actually, use one of those two instead, their shell is better than anything you can throw together in VB -- there is no need to reinvent the wheel). On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:24:06 +0200, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ivan Yosifov wrote: I asume you know M$ is dropping support for non-.NET VB... Could someone tell me exactly what this means? I am trying to convert the boss to Java and if this was something serious then I might have a better shot. Does it mean that non .NET will not run properly on their forthcoming pieces of vomit OSes? Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] suggestions: buying a new computer
A. Khattri wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Nicolas Bailey wrote: I think you missed the point. It's loud, loss of hearing, thus the pardon? Honestly, I have to thank you, though--jokes are all the funnier when somebody isn't thinking about them and misses it completely. ;) But seriously, most of the noise is probably from the air-conditioning and fans - not just the disks. What about one of those new silent power supplies? I dont know how they work, ive only seen them... Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Emerge problem
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Ian K wrote: I know that it was the first ebuild of the emerge process. Upon doing an emege -p kde i get: [ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7c-r1] (thats the first ebuild.) Just to be sure, try this: # emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e I unfortunately get the same error: /usr/share/man/man3/SSL_CTX_get_ex_new_index.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/SSL_get_cipher_list.3.gz - SSL_get_ciphers.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/BN_mul.3.gz - BN_add.3.gz Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 2991, in ? mydepgraph.merge(mydepgraph.altlist()) File /usr/bin/emerge, line 1839, in merge retval=portage.doebuild(y,merge,myroot,self.pkgsettings,edebug) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 2562, in doebuild return merge(mysettings[CATEGORY],mysettings[PF],mysettings[D],mysettings[BUILDDIR]+/build-info,myroot,mysettings,myebuild=mysettings[EBUILD]) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 2695, in merge return mylink.merge(pkgloc,infloc,myroot,myebuild) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6670, in merge return self.treewalk(mergeroot,myroot,inforoot,myebuild,cleanup=cleanup) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6297, in treewalk if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,,cfgfiledict,mymtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6551, in mergeme elif stat.S_ISREG(mydmode) or (stat.S_ISLNK(mydmode) and stat.S_ISREG(os.stat(mydest)[stat.ST_MODE])): OSError: [Errno 40] Too many levels of symbolic links: '/usr/share/man/man3/EVP_BytesToKey.3.gz' Note that OpenSSL is a stable ebuild, so you *shouldn't* be having trouble with it. The errors you posted before look like errors with portage. So if it fails, try this: # emerge --sync emerge portage \ emerge metadata emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e I will do this overnight, and reply again with the result. All on one line. (Note that the 'emerge metadata' might actually be unnecc. -- I'm not sure.) Post your results. HTH! Thanks again. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Emerge problem [solved]
Ian K wrote: Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Ian K wrote: I know that it was the first ebuild of the emerge process. Upon doing an emege -p kde i get: [ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7c-r1] (thats the first ebuild.) Just to be sure, try this: # emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e I unfortunately get the same error: /usr/share/man/man3/SSL_CTX_get_ex_new_index.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/SSL_get_cipher_list.3.gz - SSL_get_ciphers.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/BN_mul.3.gz - BN_add.3.gz Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 2991, in ? mydepgraph.merge(mydepgraph.altlist()) File /usr/bin/emerge, line 1839, in merge retval=portage.doebuild(y,merge,myroot,self.pkgsettings,edebug) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 2562, in doebuild return merge(mysettings[CATEGORY],mysettings[PF],mysettings[D],mysettings[BUILDDIR]+/build-info,myroot,mysettings,myebuild=mysettings[EBUILD]) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 2695, in merge return mylink.merge(pkgloc,infloc,myroot,myebuild) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6670, in merge return self.treewalk(mergeroot,myroot,inforoot,myebuild,cleanup=cleanup) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6297, in treewalk if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,,cfgfiledict,mymtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+/,cfgfiledict,thismtime): File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6551, in mergeme elif stat.S_ISREG(mydmode) or (stat.S_ISLNK(mydmode) and stat.S_ISREG(os.stat(mydest)[stat.ST_MODE])): OSError: [Errno 40] Too many levels of symbolic links: '/usr/share/man/man3/EVP_BytesToKey.3.gz' Note that OpenSSL is a stable ebuild, so you *shouldn't* be having trouble with it. The errors you posted before look like errors with portage. So if it fails, try this: # emerge --sync emerge portage \ emerge metadata emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e I will do this overnight, and reply again with the result. Alright, the mega-command worked, and I am happily compiling KDE! :) THANKS SOOO MUCH FOR THE HELP! Ian All on one line. (Note that the 'emerge metadata' might actually be unnecc. -- I'm not sure.) Post your results. HTH! Thanks again. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] [VERY OT] A Windows shell Im creating
Hey everyone, I have some favors to ask of those who are interested. I am thinking of developing a new shell for Windows 2000/ME/XP (such as Aston), in Visual Basic (Yes, i know VB is worse than C++, but its the only language I know well enough to do something like this) and have a few simple questions. 1 Is there any existing open source skinning program that can skin Windows widgets, and window decorations? 2 What are some cool names? I would have chosen Avalon but M$ is using it. I want names that just suggest (with their sound) importance and awe, like Avalon does. Any ideas? I would obviously be releasing it under the GPL. Im still in the planning stages so dont expect to see anything too soon. Thanks! Ian PS I know its hard, but please try and stay on topic for this one thread... I really dont need to hear why I shouldn't be developing for Windows or even considering using VB, or things along that line.. begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] [ot] Happy Easter
If you celebrate it, Happy Easter! I wish you all a happy and semi-productive holiday. :) Thanks again for everyone's help with everything. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Emerge problem
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Ian K wrote: Hey everyone, I am upgrading KDE to 3.4. I have already placed the required packages into package.keywords, and recieve this error upon initiating the compile process: 1. What did you put into package.keywords? I remember using a command to place more things into the file. (I got the command from the forums.) Here is my complete package.keywords file. sys-libs/db ~x86dev-libs/boost ~x86kde-base/arts ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86kde-base/kdelibs ~x86 kde-base/kdebase ~x86kde-base/kdeaddons ~x86 kde-base/kdeadmin ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork ~x86 kde-base/kdeedu ~x86 kde-base/kdegames ~x86kde-base/kdegraphics ~x86 kde-base/kdemultimedia ~x86kde-base/kdenetwork ~x86 kde-base/kdepim ~x86 kde-base/kdetoys ~x86kde-base/kdeutils ~x86kde-base/kdewebdev ~x86kde-base/kdeaccessibility ~x86kde-base/kde ~x86 x11-misc/engage ~x86media-gfx/gimp ~x86x11-themes/baghira ~x86x11-misc/entrance ~x86media-libs/edje ~x86 x11-libs/evas ~x86dev-libs/eet ~x86dev-db/edb ~x86 dev-libs/embryo ~x86x11-libs/ecore ~x86x11-libs/esmart ~x86 media-libs/epsilon ~x86media-libs/epeg ~x86media-gfx/blender ~x86media-gfx/yafray ~x86sys-kernel/mm-sources ~x86 gnome-extra/gdesklets-core ~x86x11-plugins/desklet-calendar ~x86 x11-plugins/desklet-sysinfo ~x86x11-plugins/desklet-wireless ~x86 x11-plugins/desklet-psidisplays ~x86x11-plugins/desklet-psiextras ~x86x11-plugins/desklet-weather ~x86x11-plugins/desklet-clock ~x86 x11-plugins/desklet-starterbar ~x86x11-plugins/desklet-battery ~x86x11-plugins/desklet-psisensors ~x86 x11-plugins/desklet-goodweather ~x86 kde-base/akode ~x86kde-base/akregator ~x86kde-base/amor ~x86 kde-base/ark ~x86kde-base/arts ~x86kde-base/artsplugin-audiofile ~x86 kde-base/artsplugin-mpeglib ~x86kde-base/artsplugin-mpg123 ~x86 kde-base/artsplugin-xine ~x86kde-base/atlantik ~x86 kde-base/atlantikdesigner ~x86 kde-base/certmanager ~x86 kde-base/cervisia ~x86kde-base/dcopc ~x86kde-base/dcopjava ~x86 kde-base/dcopperl ~x86kde-base/dcoppython ~x86kde-base/dcoprss ~x86kde-base/drkonqi ~x86kde-base/eyesapplet ~x86 kde-base/fifteenapplet ~x86kde-base/juk ~x86kde-base/kaboodle ~x86kde-base/kaddressbook ~x86kde-base/kaddressbook-plugins ~x86 kde-base/kalarm ~x86kde-base/kalyptus ~x86kde-base/kalzium ~x86kde-base/kamera ~x86kde-base/kandy ~x86 kde-base/kappfinder ~x86 kde-base/kapptemplate ~x86 kde-base/karm ~x86kde-base/kasteroids ~x86kde-base/kate ~x86kde-base/kate-plugins ~x86 kde-base/katomic ~x86kde-base/kaudiocreator ~x86kde-base/kbabel ~x86kde-base/kbackgammon ~x86kde-base/kbattleship ~x86 kde-base/kblackbox ~x86 kde-base/kbounce ~x86kde-base/kbruch ~x86kde-base/kbstateapplet ~x86kde-base/kbugbuster ~x86kde-base/kcachegrind ~x86 kde-base/kcalc ~x86 kde-base/kcardtools ~x86kde-base/kcharselect ~x86kde-base/kcheckpass ~x86kde-base/kcminit ~x86 kde-base/kcmlinuz ~x86 kde-base/kcoloredit ~x86 kde-base/kcontrol ~x86 kde-base/kcron ~x86 kde-base/kdat ~x86 kde-base/kdcop ~x86 kde-base/kde ~x86 kde-base/kde-env ~x86 kde-base/kde-i18n ~x86 kde-base/kde-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdeaccessibility ~x86 kde-base/kdeaccessibility-iconthemes ~x86 kde-base/kdeaccessibility-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdeaddons ~x86 kde-base/kdeaddons-docs-konq-plugins ~x86 kde-base/kdeaddons-kfile-plugins ~x86 kde-base/kdeaddons-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdeadmin ~x86 kde-base/kdeadmin-kfile-plugins ~x86 kde-base/kdeadmin-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork-emoticons ~x86kde-base/kdeartwork-icewm-themes ~x86kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork-kwin-styles ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork-kworldclock ~x86kde-base/kdeartwork-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork-sounds ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork-styles ~x86kde-base/kdeartwork-wallpapers ~x86kde-base/kdebase ~x86kde-base/kdebase-data ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-startkde ~x86 kde-base/kdebindings-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdebugdialog ~x86kde-base/kdeedu ~x86 kde-base/kdeedu-applnk ~x86kde-base/kdeedu-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdegames ~x86 kde-base/kdegames-meta ~x86kde-base/kdegraphics ~x86 kde-base/kdegraphics-kfile-plugins ~x86kde-base/kdegraphics-meta ~x86 kde-base/kdejava ~x86kde-base/kdelibs ~x86kde-base/kdelirc ~x86kde-base/kdemultimedia ~x86kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts ~x86 kde-base/kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data ~x86 kde-base/kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins ~x86 kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves ~x86 kde-base/kdemultimedia-meta ~x86kde-base/kdenetwork ~x86 kde-base/kdenetwork
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Emerge problem
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Ian K wrote: 1. What did you put into package.keywords? I remember using a command to place more things into the file. (I got the command from the forums.) Here is my complete package.keywords file. sys-libs/db ~x86dev-libs/boost ~x86kde-base/arts ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86kde-base/kdelibs ~x86 kde-base/kdebase ~x86kde-base/kdeaddons ~x86 kde-base/kdeadmin ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork ~x86 kde-base/kdeedu ~x86 etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc Holy Crap, Batman!(tm) That's a lot of 'keywords.' I can't really follow it all... but do you have newlines (\n) between each entry. You posted: sys-libs/db !x86 dev-libs/boost ~x86kde-base/arts ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86 ...etc But I think it should be: sys-libs/db ~x86 dev-libs/boost ~x86 kde-base/arts ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86 ...etc Which ebuild caused the problem? One way to find out is (as root) type: # tail /var/log/emerge.log I know that it was the first ebuild of the emerge process. Upon doing an emege -p kde i get: [ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7c-r1] (thats the first ebuild.) Search Gentoo's bugzilla for known bugs on this ebuild. If you don't find it, you might want to file a bug report. Is it possible it's a filesystem setting? How would I check that? Something in your filesystem limiting 'nested' symlinks? Thanks Again, Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Emerge problem
Ian K wrote: Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Ian K wrote: 1. What did you put into package.keywords? I remember using a command to place more things into the file. (I got the command from the forums.) Here is my complete package.keywords file. sys-libs/db ~x86dev-libs/boost ~x86kde-base/arts ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86kde-base/kdelibs ~x86 kde-base/kdebase ~x86kde-base/kdeaddons ~x86 kde-base/kdeadmin ~x86 kde-base/kdeartwork ~x86 kde-base/kdeedu ~x86 etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc Holy Crap, Batman!(tm) That's a lot of 'keywords.' I can't really follow it all... but do you have newlines (\n) between each entry. You posted: sys-libs/db !x86 dev-libs/boost ~x86kde-base/arts ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86 ...etc But I think it should be: sys-libs/db ~x86 dev-libs/boost ~x86 kde-base/arts ~x86 kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86 ...etc Which ebuild caused the problem? One way to find out is (as root) type: # tail /var/log/emerge.log I know that it was the first ebuild of the emerge process. Upon doing an emege -p kde i get: [ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7c-r1] (thats the first ebuild.) Search Gentoo's bugzilla for known bugs on this ebuild. If you don't find it, you might want to file a bug report. Is it possible it's a filesystem setting? How would I check that? Something in your filesystem limiting 'nested' symlinks? Thanks Again, Ian PS I edited the package.keywords file so it was easier to read... I guess it wasn't. But yes, there was a new line in betwen each. Sorry about that.. :) begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] Skining Windows 98 or ME
Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 23:36 +, Ian K wrote: Hey everyone, I have Windows ME on the family computer, and was wondering if there are any open or free programs that could go about it? I have tried both Chroma and Window Blinds, but they are a general pain in the rear. Has any one else come across one? Ian Too OT for this list IMHO mate. Oh, I know, but all of you guys are geniouses! I do apologize, but you are the most intelligent people I know, to ask. I ask the question again though. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Display managers
Peter Karlsson wrote: On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, Nick Rout wrote: kdm allows pics - click your pic and type your login (however it _has_ been broken on my machine for a while, the pix no longer show up) i am pretty sure gdm will do the same. it'd be unlike those gnome guys to let kde have a feature they didn't have, and vice versa! Gdm will let you do this, and has so for some time. I haven't seen any pictures of this done, can you maybe point me to a skin or something? Basically I want it to look a lot like Windows XP's, with a nice artsy twist. Thanks again and everyone! Ian are you sure XP had it first? I am quite sure the gdm did this before xp was out. If not, I guess Ill just have to wait until KDE 3.4 comes out with its themed login screen! :) There's another display manager called entrance which is an 'enlightenment' equivalent to x/g/kdm, i.e. _really_ themeable beyond belief... Try 'emerge -s entrance'. Best regards Peter K -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] Skining Windows 98 or ME
J. Patrick Campbell wrote: On Sat, March 5, 2005 8:28 pm, Ian K said: Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 23:36 +, Ian K wrote: Hey everyone, I have Windows ME on the family computer, and was wondering if there are any open or free programs that could go about it? I have tried both Chroma and Window Blinds, but they are a general pain in the rear. Has any one else come across one? Ian Too OT for this list IMHO mate. Oh, I know, but all of you guys are geniouses! I do apologize, but you are the most intelligent people I know, to ask. I ask the question again though. Ian Windows ME??? you'll be lucky it doesnt' break if you add anything to it. it's the most unstable OS MS ever put out! Well, I will say its much stabler than the XP one I have to work with @ work, although Linux is much better than all of Microsoft combined. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] Skining Windows 98 or ME
Antoine wrote: Pupeno wrote: Oh, I know, but all of you guys are geniouses! I do apologize, but you are the most intelligent people I know, to ask. I ask the question again though. If 'we' are so intelligent, and we are mostly using Gentoo, why don't you just follow the path the geniouses have drawn for you and use Gentoo instead of Windows ? Because I suspect he is like me - he is forced to work with doze at work, and would like to be able to make it more Gentoo-like. Bingo. In any case, in a slightly related topic... with a GPL version of QT coming out for doze, it is going to be possible (though maybe not feasible) to port kde to doze (or so I have read). Apparently this is going to mean that it will be able to use the doze kernel, and kde as your desktop. That would be huge! Pure kde/qt apps would then be immediately xplatform. Does this mean I can run doze programs under KDE in this instance to replace explorer? On another count, it seems there is already a gtk port, so does that mean it would be possible to port Gnome (I can't see anyone jumping up for that but you never know...) also? GNOME isn't worth porting to anything. (In my own opinion) Well, I wouldn't say that... I just like KDE more. Dont flame me! :) Ian Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] Display managers
Hi there. I was just wondering if anyone has come across a display/login manager that allows to to theme it kind of like Windows Xp's? You know, click your pic, and type your password. That is the /one/ thing Bill Gates did right with Windows XP. If not, I guess Ill just have to wait until KDE 3.4 comes out with its themed login screen! :) Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] [OT] Skining Windows 98 or ME
Hey everyone, I have Windows ME on the family computer, and was wondering if there are any open or free programs that could go about it? I have tried both Chroma and Window Blinds, but they are a general pain in the rear. Has any one else come across one? Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie Hardware Advice
Dave Nebinger wrote: From personal experience, I can say this: DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE GET AN ATI CARD. I am very happy with my new nVidia card. I went through hell with my ATI card. So I greatly recommend nVidia. From personal experience, I can say this: DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE GET AN NVIDIA CARD. I am very happy with my new ATI card. I went through hell with my nVidia card. So I greatly recommend ATI. Actually I'm not trying to be crass. But for every response like the one above you'll get an equally-emphatic opposite response. I had problems with nVidia because I had an older card and the later nVidia drivers just wouldn't work with it. I had problems with X freezes, etc., that just would not go away. Switched over to an ATI card and have had no problems since. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list All I can say is that, I have an ATI Radeon. I got it working in Linux faster than in Windows. Ive not had much experience with NVidia, but ATI works fine for me. begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Hey Does anyone have ideas for this? Its been quite a while since anyone has responded. Thanks! Ian K wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 11:21:03PM +, Ian K wrote Please also note that the appropriate kernel option for my card: Device drivers -Sound --Sound Card Support (*) ---ALSA ALSA (*) ISA Devices -Yamaha OPL3-SA2/SA3 (M) Upon modprobing (modprobe snd-opl3sa2), I get FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound.isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device. Now we're at the clutching-at-straws stage. Have you tried compiling the sound driver into the kernel, rather than building it as a module? This should at least avoid the modprobe stage. Yes I have, in fact it was in trouble shooting the builtin driver, that my friend recommended using modules instead. Thanks! Ian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 11:21:03PM +, Ian K wrote Please also note that the appropriate kernel option for my card: Device drivers -Sound --Sound Card Support (*) ---ALSA ALSA (*) ISA Devices -Yamaha OPL3-SA2/SA3 (M) Upon modprobing (modprobe snd-opl3sa2), I get FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound.isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device. Now we're at the clutching-at-straws stage. Have you tried compiling the sound driver into the kernel, rather than building it as a module? This should at least avoid the modprobe stage. Yes I have, in fact it was in trouble shooting the builtin driver, that my friend recommended using modules instead. Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Rumen Yotov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Ian K wrote: | Bob Sanders wrote: | | Hey everyone, | I sent this about 4 days ago, and got no response. | Can someone check into it please? | | | | I followed this last week and did some looking around. Others | seemed to not be having problems, but no one was running a | current kernel, though several were running alsa with no problems. | | Thus I found nothing that might point at a bug in alsa. Rather, | I'd guess you might have a hardware problem. | | This soundcard works under Windows ME / the dual boot of this laptop. | | Or the kernel | PCI/ISA bus drivers have an issue, perhaps not initalizing | the sound chip. | | | | Does the sound chip show up in the lspci or dmesg output? | Or can you wonder through /proc/bus/pci/devices and find the | sound chip listed? | | | The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there | a command to show the ISA devices? | Yes think so. Try lshw | grep ISA, 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an ISA-device on my mobo. HTH Rumen Hi again. I emerged this program. Upon trying that line lshw | grep ISA I get no output. After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output, but it did not mention sound, nor ISA cards. Please note that this soundcard works, it does so fine under Windows ME. (I dual boot.) I just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really annoying without sound. Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Hi again! Yes, upon going into the menuconfig, my current kernel does have ISA Support enabled (*). Please also note that the appropriate kernel option for my card: Device drivers -Sound --Sound Card Support (*) ---ALSA ALSA (*) ISA Devices -Yamaha OPL3-SA2/SA3 (M) Upon modprobing (modprobe snd-opl3sa2), I get FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound.isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device. Thanks again!! Ian Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:06:51AM +, Ian K wrote | The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there | a command to show the ISA devices? | Yes think so. Try "lshw | grep ISA", 'emerge lshw'. Using it output's an ISA-device on my mobo. HTH Rumen Hi again. I emerged this program. Upon trying that line "lshw | grep ISA" I get no output. After, I tryed plain lshw. I got loads of output, but it did not mention sound, nor ISA cards. Please note that this soundcard works, it does so fine under Windows ME. (I dual boot.) I just really want it to work on Linux, cause its really annoying without sound. Thanks! Ian If it's an ISA unit, the next question is... do you have ISA enabled in your kernel. Run "make menuconfig" and at the top level, you'll see Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA) --- Go into that item and make sure that ISA support is enabled. If it hasn't been enabled, enable it, rebuild the kernel and reboot to the new kernel. begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to make the laptop sleep?
Hi there, Perhaps your laptop's BIOS has an option so that when you close the panel/screen your laptop goes into sleep by itself? This feature obviously doesn't require Windows. I also know that some of the newer laptops and pretty much all Toshiba made ones allow you to control your fan with the fan utility for Toshiba Laptops. (Emerge toshiba-utils). HTH Ian Hareesh Nagarajan wrote: Hi, Times at which I am not by my laptop I leave my laptop locked using 'xlock'. I know this isn't the best way because 'xlock' consumes many CPU cycles. What is the best way to lock my laptop so that when I do resume work my laptop isn't at 75 degree celcius (My CPU fan doesn't seem to stop or slow down either). Moreover are there any recent guides/docs to enable power management features on a laptop (I've already checked the Gentoo guide; Any other guides out there?). Thanks, Hareesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Bob Sanders wrote: Hey everyone, I sent this about 4 days ago, and got no response. Can someone check into it please? I followed this last week and did some looking around. Others seemed to not be having problems, but no one was running a current kernel, though several were running alsa with no problems. Thus I found nothing that might point at a bug in alsa. Rather, I'd guess you might have a hardware problem. This soundcard works under Windows ME / the dual boot of this laptop. Or the kernel PCI/ISA bus drivers have an issue, perhaps not initalizing the sound chip. Does the sound chip show up in the lspci or dmesg output? Or can you wonder through /proc/bus/pci/devices and find the sound chip listed? The soundcard is not listed with lspci, as it is an ISA card. Is there a command to show the ISA devices? Have you tried a different version of the kernel, or just the one 2.6.10? I have not tried any other versions of the kernel, but due to my laptop's lack of speed, I would rather not have to switch. btw - please try to avoid sending HTML. It's makes it hard to read your replies. THanks, Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Hey everyone, I sent this about 4 days ago, and got no response. Can someone check into it please? Thanks! Ian Ian K wrote: My answers are *bold* for easy reading. Thanks again! Ian Hey Holly, sorry about the lack of information. I got the error: Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy It was repeated twice throughout the dmesg at the times when I did the modprobes. I modprobed the following: (I wont include the .ko or path) No, you don't modprobe using the .ko or path anyway, so no need to include it. snd-mpu401-uart snd-opl3-synth snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi snd-hwdep snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi-emul snd-ainstr-fm snd-seq-midi snd-opl3sa2-That gives me the DMESG error And what does lsmod say at this point: is the module loaded (meaning that it is in fact busy), or not (meaning that it is in fact not found)? Well, true, this is not a strict test, as the module might have been loaded by the kernel, in which case it does not seem to appear in an lsmod (annoying as it is), but it is someplace to start. *Well, when I go Modprobe snd-opl3sa2 I get this lovely output: FATAL: Error insetring snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device (IN DMESG): Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy. The other modprobes seem to have survived a restart, and seem to have loaded. The snd-opl3sa2 is not on the list. However, I will still put the list in this mail: Module Size Used By snd_opl3_lib 10208 0 snd-hwdep 9060 1 snd_opl3_lib snd_cs4231_lib 25696 0 snd_mpu401_uart 7456 0 snd_rawmidi 24288 1 snd_mpu401_uart * Why are you modprobing these modules manually anyway? Why are they not being loaded by the kernel, alsasound, or /etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6? *I did this for manual testing before autoloading.* And what precisely is your problem with sound-- does it not work, and in what respect does it not work? It is quite easy with Gentoo to get over-involved with errors that do not actually affect one's use of the machine (fixing errors for the sake of fixing errors, rather than just getting on with what you wanted to do. It's one of the few downsides to Gentoo ;-) ). *Well, no program can detect the sound card, and obviously, I cant hear anything when playing media/music files.* My laptop is the ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 445CDX. I am (trying) using ALSA under KDE 3.3.2 I have ISA support selected in the kernel options, although I dont know where ISAPNP is located. ISA Plug and Play support is located in Device Drivers=Plug and Play Support. *I found it, and compiled into the kernel, with no effect.* I guess thats it for now... Oh yes, inside the sound system of the control center, (KDE) when you select the hardware tab, what audio device should i use? Autodetect? That depends. I didn't use KDE that much (before I was forced to by SuSE), but when I did, I usually found the Autodetect to suc... be less than optimal for the onboard sound chip I was using at that time (VIA 8233). Changing the sound server to use ALSA sometimes worked, but the surest bet was to use OSS or Threaded OSS (because I had ALSA OSS emulation enabled). *Thanks!* HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
My answers are bold for easy reading. Thanks again! Ian Hey Holly, sorry about the lack of information. I got the error: Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy It was repeated twice throughout the dmesg at the times when I did the modprobes. I modprobed the following: (I wont include the .ko or path) No, you don't modprobe using the .ko or path anyway, so no need to include it. snd-mpu401-uart snd-opl3-synth snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi snd-hwdep snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi-emul snd-ainstr-fm snd-seq-midi snd-opl3sa2 -That gives me the DMESG error And what does lsmod say at this point: is the module loaded (meaning that it is in fact "busy"), or not (meaning that it is in fact "not found")? Well, true, this is not a strict test, as the module might have been loaded by the kernel, in which case it does not seem to appear in an lsmod (annoying as it is), but it is someplace to start. Well, when I go Modprobe snd-opl3sa2 I get this lovely output: FATAL: Error insetring snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device (IN DMESG): Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy. The other modprobes seem to have survived a restart, and seem to have loaded. The snd-opl3sa2 is not on the list. However, I will still put the list in this mail: Module Size Used By snd_opl3_lib 10208 0 snd-hwdep 9060 1 snd_opl3_lib snd_cs4231_lib 25696 0 snd_mpu401_uart 7456 0 snd_rawmidi 24288 1 snd_mpu401_uart Why are you modprobing these modules manually anyway? Why are they not being loaded by the kernel, alsasound, or /etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6? I did this for manual testing before autoloading. And what precisely is your problem with sound-- does it not work, and in what respect does it not work? It is quite easy with Gentoo to get over-involved with errors that do not actually affect one's use of the machine (fixing "errors" for the sake of fixing errors, rather than just getting on with what you wanted to do. It's one of the few "downsides" to Gentoo ;-) ). Well, no program can detect the sound card, and obviously, I cant hear anything when playing media/music files. My laptop is the ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 445CDX. I am (trying) using ALSA under KDE 3.3.2 I have ISA support selected in the kernel options, although I dont know where ISAPNP is located. ISA Plug and Play support is located in Device Drivers=Plug and Play Support. I found it, and compiled into the kernel, with no effect. I guess thats it for now... Oh yes, inside the sound system of the control center, (KDE) when you select the hardware tab, what audio device should i use? Autodetect? That depends. I didn't use KDE that much (before I was forced to by SuSE), but when I did, I usually found the Autodetect to suc... be less than optimal for the onboard sound chip I was using at that time (VIA 8233). Changing the sound server to use ALSA sometimes worked, but the "surest bet" was to use OSS or Threaded OSS (because I had ALSA OSS emulation enabled). Thanks! HTH, Holly begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Holly Bostick wrote: Ian K wrote: Hi. My laptop has a Yamaha OPL3-SA2 soundcard, but the appropriate drivers will not recognize it. It says the device is not found or busy. I AM SURE my soundcard is this, I checked my computer's specifications. I enabled the appropriate kernel options in the 2.6.10 kernel, and compiled and such. I then modprobed a few of the available ones. I did a DMESG and got the above error twice. Just so you know, the soundcard is an ISA device. Thanks! Ian You got "the above error twice"... there is no error above (at least, I don't see it). So what was the error? And what were the "appropriate options" you enabled in the kernel? Was one of them ISAPNP? Are you using ALSA or OSS? What did you try to modprobe? "A few of the available ones" says little, especially when there is only one sound card actually present, so why would you modprobe other hardware that is not present? What was the output of the modprobe(s)? The actual make and model of the laptop would be useful too, in case it in particular has some known quirks. You're right in that this chip should work, but without some more specific information as to what your settings are, and what the error output is, we're just flying blind. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hey Holly, sorry about the lack of information. I got the error: Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy It was repeated twice throughout the dmesg at the times when I did the modprobes. I modprobed the following: (I wont include the .ko or path) snd-mpu401-uart snd-opl3-synth snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi snd-hwdep snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi-emul snd-ainstr-fm snd-seq-midi snd-opl3sa2 -That gives me the DMESG error My laptop is the ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 445CDX. I am (trying) using ALSA under KDE 3.3.2 I have ISA support selected in the kernel options, although I dont know where ISAPNP is located. I guess thats it for now... Oh yes, inside the sound system of the control center, (KDE) when you select the hardware tab, what audio device should i use? Autodetect? Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?
Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 19:28 -0500, Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 11:45 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 08 February 2005 03:59, Piotr wrote: Dnia wtorek 08 lutego 2005 03:38, Rick van Hattem napisa: On Tuesday 08 February 2005 03:52, Jeff Cranmer wrote: I'd like to upgrade my system with a more powerful graphics card. Presently, I have a VT8375 Video Card built into the motherboard. As far as I can tell, this does not allow any accelerated graphics processing capability, so I'm left with basic software graphics support for games like Quake2, and others simply do not run at regular speed (if at all). Looking on Pricewatch.com, there are a number of video cards available. What is the best value (and the easist to install) for a linux system? I'd like high speed graphics for games, and may also want to have video capture capability in future so that I can convert my PAL video collection over to DVD. A friend of mine recommended nvidia, as they have a few pieces of support software for linux to handle setup etc. What video cards would you recommend? Thanks Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list If it comes to video acceleration in games under linux then I don't think you have another option besides nvidia, ATi is improving there drivers bit by bit but the drivers are still crap, they work but don't get half the performance you should have. I think geForce II MX 400 ( or 200 ) 64MB whould be good choice. You can buy it for like 20$ (?), it is enough powerfull to run Enemy Territory ( 43 fps actually :) ) Quake 2/3 ( 76 fps ) . and he will get a fx5200 for 50 which works even with the latest drivers, while users of elderly cards (everything older than gf4) are out of luck. Looking at the specs, the fx5200 is AGP8x interface. My motherboard (K7VMM Athlon XP 2400) supports AGP4x 266MHz mode up to 1Gbit/sec bandwidth. Are the AGP8x and AGP4x interfaces downwards compatible? Would the fx5200 work with this interface, and if so, would I get the additional benefit of this card over, for example, a GEForce4 MX440 128MB, with only AGP4x support? Okay, I've answered at least part of my question, as the AGP8x cards are compatible with an AGP4x interface (though you can't use the higher 2.1Gbit/sec bandwidth of AGP8x). From what I've read following this discussion, GeForce4 users have experienced problems, but GeForce FX users are okay. The choices then boil down to: GeForce FX5200: up to 256MB RAM for about $47 (128MB) or $72 (256MB). GeForce FX5500: up to 256MB RAM for about $66 (128MB) or $75 (256MB). GEForce FX5700: up to 256MB RAM for about $73 (128MB) or $95 (256MB). My next question is "Are there any differences between cards with these chipsets which would mean something to me?" It seems that the 256MB internal RAM results in faster processing with the same chipset, but it's unclear to me whether this would result in better graphics capability with only an AGP4x pipe. All seem to have TV out and DVI out (so I can connect my PC to my HDTV if I so wish). For programs like Quake2 and Flightgear, would an FX5200 do the job with plenty of processing power to spare? Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I have an ATI Radeon 7200. It works perfectly and its good enough for my games: Star Trek Armada II NeverWinter Nights Sims 1 Sims 2 HTH Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Hi. My laptop has a Yamaha OPL3-SA2 soundcard, but the appropriate drivers will not recognize it. It says the device is not found or busy. I AM SURE my soundcard is this, I checked my computer's specifications. I enabled the appropriate kernel options in the 2.6.10 kernel, and compiled and such. I then modprobed a few of the available ones. I did a DMESG and got the above error twice. Just so you know, the soundcard is an ISA device. Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Kernel Priority
Hey Everyone. I have an older computer and Im putting KDE on it. What I want to know is if you can assign KDE's desktop and menus and stuff a higher priority, as you maybe would a screensaver. Please answer with basic terms as I am a newbie. Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Kernel Priority
Hey Everyone. I have an older computer and Im putting KDE on it. What I want to know is if you can assign KDE's desktop and menus and stuff a higher priority, as you maybe would a screensaver. You know, to make KDE seem faster! :) Please answer with basic terms as I am a newbie. Thanks! Ian PS Im sorry if this email is a duplicate, but I got a failure notice, so I'm sending it again to be sure. begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Priority
Mike Noble wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian K wrote: | Hey Everyone. | I have an older computer and Im putting KDE on it. What I want to know | is if you | can assign KDE's desktop and menus and stuff a higher priority, as you | maybe would a | screensaver. You know, to make KDE seem faster! :) | Please answer with basic terms as I am a newbie. | Thanks! | Ian | I am not aware of any way to run kde with a higher priority, what I would suggest would be that you choose a desktop which puts less of a strain on the system. Both KDE and GNOME are system intensive window managers. Something like XFCE, TWM, TVWM, BLACKBOX, the list goes on of window managers which take less resources and run faster. These will not give you everything the KDE or GNOME gives, and it will take some work. If this in not what you are willing to do then you will have to live with KDE or GNOME being slow. Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/wLRlJFYJP/fwTsRAh1IAJwLhNabzivMlVaavg2aBaUe3LarWwCfafuZ pmZlmosH3yNB/aM6xcLfscg= =p8nL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Please dont give me the down with KDE or GNOME talk, Ive heard it all too much before. I have made a decision and am sticking with it. I also was going to use it for Xine and such to increase music playback preformance. If anyone knows of such a way to do this, please reply. I guess the main reason I am persuing this, is because identical versions of KDE (one with Gentoo / one with Slackware) performed differently, under the same circumstances. I was thinking that maybe it had something to do with the other distro, in case the guys at Slackware rigged it like that.? Anyways, please help if you can. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Burning CDs
Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been having lots of troubles burning CDs lately, now, there's no burner/reader in any of the dialogs of K3B and when I press 'Burn', k3b crashes. Any idea what's going on and/or what can I do ? I'm using the lattest 2.6 kernel. Thank you. - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://pupeno.com Reading Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/vK6fW48a9PWGkURAlpoAKCF2ch9yqg8bNLJkBD57zMXfKGBtACeKOCS n+4Q/llQFzu39mxRqvVwsdU= =xIiT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list So basically, Im assuming that it had worked before, otherwise you would not be trying. Have you recently upgraded a kernel? Is your CD Burner known to have issues with Linux? Cheers, Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2..4.20 too old
death rince wrote: Hi, I have a system that is running 2.6.10 kernel. The b44 driver crashes often so I tried switching to 2.4.20 kernel. but when the system boot up and started to mount the disk, it complained of too old a kernel. would appreciate some advice thank u regards shiva __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hey Out of my own experience, the 2.6.10 kernel is still quite new, perhaps there is a glitch somewhere with your driver. Try going (back) to 2.6.9 or even 2.6.7. HTH Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Priority
Mike Noble wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian K wrote: | Mike Noble wrote: | | | Please dont give me the down with KDE or GNOME talk, Ive heard it all | too much before. | I have made a decision and am sticking with it. I also was going to use | it for Xine and such to | increase music playback preformance. If anyone knows of such a way to do | this, please reply. | I guess the main reason I am persuing this, is because identical | versions of KDE (one with | Gentoo / one with Slackware) performed differently, under the same | circumstances. I was thinking | that maybe it had something to do with the other distro, in case the | guys at Slackware rigged it | like that.? Apparently you have a rather big chip on your shoulder. I was not saying anything bad about KDE or GNOME. I use KDE myself, but is a resource hog. All I was doing was giving you options which is what Linux is all about. Mike No no no no... I didn't mean to sound rude... I just really dont like people tellin' me that over and over. I dont mind KDE, and I dont really think its that bad.. Anyways, ya Im sorry... Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea
James Colannino wrote: John Myers wrote: [...]I do, however, really wish that I could find out how far in this build I am.[...] I would absolutely LOVE that ;) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list DITTO! If I had the skill, I would love to help, but maybe I could help with a website or something...? That project would rock! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Priority [SOLVED]
Mike Noble wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 W.Kenworthy wrote: | Rather than looking at kde/gnome, you might get better results by | changing the xserver priority. There were some threads on the forums in | the past on this with good results. Some have also reported that | compiling xfree (and xorg) with -Os can make a big difference to x/x | apps, but I suspect that it would only help startup, and be very | detrimental to continuous processing such as movie playback. | | You mention snappier menus etc - this is indicative that you do not have | enough resources to go around - if you up the priority for these | actions, what is going to happen to your playback? Moving to Kernel 2.6 | with the appropriate scheduler may help here if you are still using 2.4. | - 2.4 is ultimately faster in terms of work processed, but 2.6 is much | more responsive to desktop actions. | | As a gnome user, I would also like to add to the other reply you got | from a kde user. gnome/kde are both resource hogs, and on older HW you | *WILL* need to go to a lighter window manager to get decent performance. | I have used fluxbox successfully where gnome wouldnt cut it in the past | - this not to put down my favourite window environment, but an | acknowledgement that all that niceness comes at a (sometimes | prohibitive) price. | Another option which might give a better performance would be to prelink KDE. Information on prelink can be found at: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/yrtlJFYJP/fwTsRAv10AJ9EOrUstfF5nexQHjK7O07BrqXDWACdF6ts Nmt81kDSOByr/GG+KjEB2tQ= =fWnU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Thank you very much guys! I will try that prelink thing and research the xserver priority. Thanks again! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Firefox and offline web pages
Kevin Philp wrote: Rubbish!! - The whole point is Firefox is extendable. Get the Mozilla archive format extension from tools- extensions-get more and you can save whole websites in a single file as well as in the same format as used by IE. So my Firefox IS intelligent enough because I used one of the huge array of extensions available. Kevin. On Wednesday 26 January 2005 09:35, Dirk Raeder wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian K wrote: Grand! Thanks Dirk, one last thing. When it makes this folder, will it store another pages images there too or will it make a seperate folder for each saved page? Thanks Again! I'm sorry, Firefox is not intelligent enough to recognize a folder it made earlier. Every page gets a separate folder. Of course, you can manually merge them and edit the html-files to fit the new paths. - -- Dirk Raeder I prefer encrypted and signed messages. My GPG key is available at hkp://blackhole.pca.dfn.de with ID 0x05EB5446 Registered Linux user #378554 http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFB92RR2QYJ1wXrVEYRAtWCAKC2tgERlBx4aacUzYUVoU2rv0QhxgCVHcwB sts1eQv67srhVV2iQp3+fA== =CNdb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Thanks, Kevin! I have installed the plugin. Now, how do I access the page I saved? Can I just goto it when I dont have the internet on that computer? Thanks! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerge KDE 3.3 problem
Hi everyone! I am having an issue when i emerge kde. It compiles the first file successfully, and while in the process of merging the file, I get this: /usr/share/man/man3/DES_pcbc_encrypt.3.gz - des.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/EVP_SignUpdate.3.gz - EVP_SignInit.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/DSAparams_print.3.gz - RSA_print.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/SSL_CTX_get_ex_new_index.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/SSL_get_cipher_list.3.gz - SSL_get_ciphers.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/BN_mul.3.gz - BN_add.3.gz Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 2991, in ? mydepgraph.merge(mydepgraph.altlist()) File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 1839, in merge retval=portage.doebuild(y,"merge",myroot,self.pkgsettings,edebug) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 2562, in doebuild return merge(mysettings["CATEGORY"],mysettings["PF"],mysettings["D"],mysettings["BUILDDIR"]+"/build-info",myroot,mysettings,myebuild=mysettings["EBUILD"]) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 2695, in merge return mylink.merge(pkgloc,infloc,myroot,myebuild) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6670, in merge return self.treewalk(mergeroot,myroot,inforoot,myebuild,cleanup=cleanup) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6297, in treewalk if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,"",cfgfiledict,mymtime): File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+"/",cfgfiledict,thismtime): File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+"/",cfgfiledict,thismtime): File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+"/",cfgfiledict,thismtime): File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6536, in mergeme if self.mergeme(srcroot,destroot,outfile,secondhand,offset+x+"/",cfgfiledict,thismtime): File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 6551, in mergeme elif stat.S_ISREG(mydmode) or (stat.S_ISLNK(mydmode) and stat.S_ISREG(os.stat(mydest)[stat.ST_MODE])): OSError: [Errno 40] Too many levels of symbolic links: '/usr/share/man/man3/EVP_BytesToKey.3.gz' Im on kernel 2.6.9-rc1-mm2 256MB RAM Im on ReiserFS I have 1 GB of SWAP My root partition is 70GB (no seperate /usr partition) I already have KDE 3.2.2 installed, in case that has something to do with it. Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggested Video Cards
Tres Melton wrote: I too am preparing to get a new system and have been watching the AMD64 motherboard thread with interest and thought about starting a thread on video cards. I am looking to get the most advanced card I can get that uses completely Free drivers. I've heard that there is an older Nvidia card that is well supported (4200?). OpenGL is important to me as well. There is a great interview of Timothy Miller on Kernel Trap: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4622 Tim is an avid Free Software user and a graphics card designer that works for a company that builds graphics cards for medical and air traffic control systems and has convinced his company, Tech Source, to fund the development of a completely Free and Open video card. He is hoping for a release date of June 2005 but engineering samples are supposed to be available earlier to developers of graphics systems (X, KDE, Gnome, Mplayer, etc.). When it is available I'll buy one if for no other reason than to support the project, but, until then, what is the card that the Gentoo graphics developers are using? I just use a ATI Radeon 7200. Its good enough for me, and it runs NeverWinter Nights and Sims2 good enough for me. It was childs play to get working under Linux. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Firefox and offline web pages
Hey Everyone! I was just wondering if, like Internet Explorer, Firefox could store a page and its contents on the hard drive for 'offline browsing.' Thanks! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Firefox and offline web pages
Dirk Raeder wrote: Ian K wrote: Hey Everyone! I was just wondering if, like Internet Explorer, Firefox could store a page and its contents on the hard drive for 'offline browsing.' Thanks! Ian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hey Ian, yes it can. Load the webpage you want stored and select File Save Page as... in the menu. Firefox will store the HTML-File with the name you give it and create a folder where it stores the CSS and the images. Dirk -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Grand! Thanks Dirk, one last thing. When it makes this folder, will it store another pages images there too or will it make a seperate folder for each saved page? Thanks Again! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: How many posts do you have saved for this mailing list?
Im sorry if this is a violation of edicuite here, if so please tell me, and I wont do it again. If its ok though, how many messages do you have from this list? Me? 16,371 Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting [SOLVED]
neil wrote: Dave Nebinger wrote: And I'd be willing to bet you may encounter other similar issues as I really don't think the current kernel with it's modern features and expectations of a later Pentium (i.e. PIII+) would be too happy with The kernel doesn't have any such expectations. It's designed to work with a wide range of CPUs - including ones that aren't even Intel-compatible. Now to Ian: It seems to start up fine. Then, it pauses as soon as it gives me the output for detecting my processor (PentiumMMX 133mHz). It just plain stops. It sounds to me very much as if you have APIC support turned on in the kernel. If so, turn it off and try again. Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hey all, Thanks for the input Neil, but unfortunately APIC is not the problem, as it was turned off. I played around a little, and finally got the sucker to boot by turning off the framebuffer and the splash options. I never guessed that they would have such an importance. Thanks for all of the help! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting
Axel Schmalowsky wrote: ««Omega21»» wrote: Hey everyone! I have reinstalled Gentoo on my system. Everything went fine. Im using that love path, so my kernel is 2.6.10-rc3-love1. My problem lies at bootup. After removing the liveCD and selecting Linux in GRUB, It seems to start up fine. Then, it pauses as soon as it gives me the output for detecting my processor (PentiumMMX 133mHz). It just plain stops. It does respond to a CTRL-ALT-DELETE, and displays no output, but does a restart at a normal speed. Any ideas of whats wrong? Thanks! Ian __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list please post your grub.conf it eases to identify the problem greetings axel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Alright, here it is: default 0 timeout 10 splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=..::Gentoo Linux::.. root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 title=..::Windows ME::.. root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Thats it! Thanks again! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems booting
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Ian K wrote: title=..::Gentoo Linux::.. root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda2 Note that (hd0,1) == /dev/hda2 You are telling grub to look on the same partition for /boot and /. I doubt this is actually what you have. The line root(hd0,1) should point to the partition that has /boot. In this case it's probably correct. (If /boot is at /dev/hda2) The kernel parameter for root should point to the partition that has your root filesystem. Most likely you need to change this line: kernel /bzImage root=/dev/hda3 If you can't figure it out, post your partition layout and someone here can help you sort through it. :-) If this clarifies, I do not have a boot partition. Its simply on / hda1 = Windows hda2 = Linux root. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] before begining
John Coder wrote: I have been reading most of the emails sent to this list for the past couple of days because I plan to start my first attempt at installing my gentoo system. Is there any addvice from those who have completed this recently? It will be an amd 800 and I have been running suse for the past year with great success, and I have tried Feddora core 1 and previous versions of redhat. Thanks John Coder -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Thank you for choosing Gentoo. I personally cannot imagine using any other distro. My peice of advice is that while it is mighty tempting to have the USE flags in make.conf extend 3 screens, you really shouldn't. Not all programs are completely compatible with every use flag, and this may give you some compile problems. Keep them simple. If you are going to use KDE (I recommend KDE for the first linux user) all you really need is USE=qt kde -gnome If you will be using GNOME you really only need USE=-qt -kde gnome gtk As well, follow the documentation very carefully. It is sometimes easier to click the links after you finish each step as opposed to scrolling. Enjoy Gentoo! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] before begining
Ian K wrote: John Coder wrote: I have been reading most of the emails sent to this list for the past couple of days because I plan to start my first attempt at installing my gentoo system. Is there any addvice from those who have completed this recently? It will be an amd 800 and I have been running suse for the past year with great success, and I have tried Feddora core 1 and previous versions of redhat. Thanks John Coder -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Thank you for choosing Gentoo. I personally cannot imagine using any other distro. My peice of advice is that while it is mighty tempting to have the USE flags in make.conf extend 3 screens, you really shouldn't. Not all programs are completely compatible with every use flag, and this may give you some compile problems. Keep them simple. If you are going to use KDE (I recommend KDE for the first linux user) all you really need is USE=qt kde -gnome If you will be using GNOME you really only need USE=-qt -kde gnome gtk As well, follow the documentation very carefully. It is sometimes easier to click the links after you finish each step as opposed to scrolling. Enjoy Gentoo! Ian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I thought of something else. FOR ISH TAR SAKE, DONT USE THE ROOT ACCOUNT REGULARLY AFTER INSTALLING YOUR SYSTEM!! Dont even spend time making your WM (window manager) or DE (desktpo enviornment) look pretty under root. ake yourself a regular user and stick with it! hehe, Im done ranting now. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] weird compile problem
Robert Schweikert wrote: I am trying to update my gentoo distribution that I am running on my laptop. When emerge is running the build for X.org gcc blows up with an internal compiler error. I am assuming at this point that there is a memory issue, i.e. not enough horsepower on the laptop. However, when I change to the working directory and then run make and make install everything works just fine, i.e. the compiler only blows up when run from emerge. My question is now, how do I tell portage that the package in question is already installed and to move on to the next package to be upgraded? Help is appreciated. Thanks, Robert Hi, I am a really new user, so this may or may not work. Its more a logical idea. Is there any effect if you run emerge in that package's directory? HTH Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] GDM and another DE/WM
Hey Everyone! First, let me say happy new year. Second, A question. Please answer this as basically as ya can, because im a noobie. Basically, I think GDM is amazing. I think GNOME is not. Is there a way to have GDM used as a login manager, without installing GNOME? I do plan to have XFCE / KDE / FLUXBOX on this computer, and I relly dont want to use anymore disk space for GNOME. Thank you so much! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM and another DE/WM [SOLVED]
Holly Bostick wrote: Ian K wrote: Hey Everyone! First, let me say happy new year. Second, A question. Please answer this as basically as ya can, because im a noobie. Basically, I think GDM is amazing. I think GNOME is not. Is there a way to have GDM used as a login manager, without installing GNOME? I do plan to have XFCE / KDE / FLUXBOX on this computer, and I relly dont want to use anymore disk space for GNOME. Thank you so much! Ian Add -gnome to your USE flags in /etc/make.conf (since you don't want GNOME support for anything, since you are not going to use GNOME, you might as well state your preference globally), and then emerge gdm. That's all there is to it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Of course it helps! Your posts always do. Thank you very much! Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Start-up Progress Bar
Hi. For those of you who have been following my problemed laptop, where nothing would compile, I have decided to try a stage 1 install after a format. Since the furthest I got today was the step of configuring the make.conf, I was wondering if now, or in the near future would be a good time to go about getting that progress bar that the live cd defaultly uses. How would I do that? Thank you. Ian begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
