Re: [gentoo-user] Console Resolution
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 4:22 pm, Dane Elwell wrote: > I think you're looking for Framebuffer support. Not got the balls to try > this myself, but the results are impressive. You might not have, but genkernel has. That's how I did mine. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" You've got to be kidding me!!
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 3:50 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Wednesday 17 September 2003 21:27, Joshua Banks wrote: > > LOL.. > > > > Do I need to be a computer programmer now to figure out what files I can > > update safely and which ones I should ignore, keep, > > throw-out...ect.ect.. > > You don't need to be a programmer at all - that's much harder. What you do > need is to be comfortable with config files; there's no other way to > survive with Gentoo at the moment and possibly not in the future either. > Textual config files are the heart of GNU software and most *NIX software. However, it's got to be said that because of etc-update's tendency to show you both what are obviously config files as well as what are obviously computer programs, there's a demarcation that would be beneficial to implement in future versions. Most of what whizzes past in etc-update is some form of computer program, I've noticed, and I really don't think it should expect me to be reprogramming some arcane part of the system, whereas a config file, such as fstab, make.conf or rc.conf is my responsibility because I altered it in the first place. I'm just growing out of the phase where I'd let etc-update do everything for me, and then take the remaining two weeks to get my system back up running. Now, etc-update isn't such an ordeal. The interactive merging thing never works, though, so I keep copies of the whole system on another drive, and derive the old un-updated config information from that. The computer programs themselves aren't my concern, so I let etc-update just do everything, but take note of what it updates. If I recognise it, then I'll copy the original back as soon as etc-update finishes. That's the best way of doing it. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update and fstab...
I'd like some sort of flag system which says to etc-update: "I've chosen to alter this file myself before, at some point in time" or "I've never touched this file in my life before, in fact, I didn't know it even existed." Of course, it's not a foolproof system - it wouldn't catch files that I have indirectly altered using Webmin, for example, but it would go some way. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test2 results
Tried 2.6.0 beta 2 but couldn't get em8300-libraries or em8300-modules to happen at all. A total no-go. Went back to 2.4.21 because viewing films on the Dxr3 plugged into the telly is now an accepted part of family life. Anyone else with a Dxr3 find the same probs in compiling the em8300 stuff with 2.6.0? -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Keymap not loading
On 18:46 Tue 29 Jul , Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: > > I solved it by putting full path minus extension in KEYMAPS="" and > CONSOLEFONT="" within /etc/rc.conf. I also. While I was at it, I changed the consolefont to the font simply called 't'. I love it. It's here to stay. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Round 2: modules/kernel problem & No modules work -- i8k
I don't really know how the whole module thing works, but I've encountered similar situations where modules can't be found because things are not looking where I thought they should, and basically because I don't understand much of it. As a result of some chats on #gentoo, I've come up with this approach: do a 'modprobe -l > my-modules.txt' which seems to result in a list of modules, each with a fully absolute path, and each with a '.o' or whatever ending. By hand, I've gone through each line and deleted the stuff that isn't the module name, and the bits after the dot. I'm sure there's a programming way of doing it, but frankly this was quicker than spending another twenty years trying to learn programming, which hasn't worked out so far. Then I change the result into /etc/modules.autoload and all is happy. It'd be nice if there were an automated way of arriving at modules.autoload from the output of modprobe -l and simply allowing the user to comment out the bits not needed (or in my case, it's all needed or I wouldn't have made the kernel that way in the first place). -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to use this list effectively?
On Thursday 03 April 2003 12:21 am, Carlos C. Gonzalez wrote: > Oh well. Lists seem to be much better than forums for some odd reason but > they sure do fill up the mailboxes. You're not supposed to actually read them. They're there to make it seem like you know about certain subjects. I've got absolutely tonnes of unread list mail about Java, Cocoa, Objective-C and suchlike. You'd think that I actually know how to program. Same as my bookshelf. None of it has the slightest meaning to me, however, and I'm as unable to program as I ever was, 20 years ago. However, just looking at all the mail pile up lets me see statistically which are the popular topics, so I know which words to use when discussing technology. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to use this list effectively?
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 11:47 pm, Steve Juranich wrote: > that mutt and kmail do as well (though I could be wrong). KMail definitely - I use it a lot to sort lists into folders within folders. Works very well - you can see all the different unread mail pile up. Must try reading some of it occasionally. You can simply secondary-click the email to 'create filter' and it'll offer to make a rule for mailing lists (or subject or from or to, if you prefer) and if you make an appropriate folder, it'll let you select that as the destination. If you then secondary-click on the folder, you can set up options such as icons that change when empty, expiry intervals for read/unread, mailing list address (useful for lists that reply to the author otherwise) and set an email address to send from. There's also a 'reply to mailing list' button available to put in the toolbar. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
I use Mac OS -X (well, Jagwire) and I'm always using sudo instead of popping into su and out again. I've just installed sudo on Gentoo and configured wheel group as sudoers and used it to do something, and it instantly felt at home. I'm just wondering how many other people use sudo instead of su, and whether it should be perhaps included in a 'standard' install (by which I mean mentioned in the install docs). -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR
On Sunday 23 March 2003 9:20 am, Matthew Tedder wrote: > I don't know what video driver to specify for my S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR > card? Actually, I don't see generic SVGA either.. Only VGA and that's not > even worth trying. > > My card is built into a Shuttle MK35N mainboard. Anyone know what to use > for this hardware? Whilst it's not the same, here is the XF86config section for my Asus Terminator, which has similar graphics hardware (not DDR though): Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "HWCursor" # [] #Option "SWCursor" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "Rotate"# [] #Option "UseBIOS" # [] #Option "LCDClock" # #Option "ShadowStatus" # [] #Option "VideoRAM" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "savage" VendorName "S3" BoardName "ProSavage KM133" ChipSet "ProSavage" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection The driver in both cases is simply known as 'savage', according to xf86cfg. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X configuration
On Saturday 22 March 2003 4:35 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are there any other X configuration tools available asside from "xf86cfg" > and "xf86config"?? Yes. Stick a Knoppix CD in and then from there, email yourself the resulting XF86config file. That's what I did. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] !!! ERROR: dev-lang/gforth-0.5.0 failed.
On Friday 21 March 2003 10:58 pm, Robert Claeson wrote: > Do you have emacs installed? gforth should obviously emerge that as a > dependency, but perhaps you've stumbled onto a missing dependency. That's interesting - yes, emacs is installed (21.2-r2), but I'd forgotten all about it. I must've installed emacs and vi when I first setup, but never touched emacs, instead stumbling my way into a few vi commands enough to get on with (which is the opposite of what I thought I'd do - I initially assumed I'd go for emacs over vi for some reason). -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] !!! ERROR: dev-lang/gforth-0.5.0 failed.
On Friday 21 March 2003 10:50 pm, Robert Claeson wrote: > Try emerging gforth as "root" instead of your own user. It was. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] !!! ERROR: dev-lang/gforth-0.5.0 failed.
I thought I might try my hand at programming, in order to get a job, lots of money and eventual fame and recognition. So, I tried to emerge gForth: ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gforth.el /bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gforth.el': Permission denied make: *** [install] Error 1 !!! ERROR: dev-lang/gforth-0.5.0 failed. !!! Function src_install, Line 44, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-gforth-0.5.0-6922.log" open_wr: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gforth.el What do I do now? -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "Package in world file is not installed"
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 8:11 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Do the errors at least tell you what packages are listed but not installed? They do indeed: Calculating world dependencies *** Package in world file is not installed: media-plugins/xine-dvdnav *** Package in world file is not installed: net-misc/gshield *** Package in world file is not installed: sys-apps/xinetd *** Package in world file is not installed: gnome-base/gnome *** Package in world file is not installed: net-firewall/firestarter *** Package in world file is not installed: media-video/xine-ui *** Package in world file is not installed: net-firewall/ipchains-firewall Interestingly, these are all packages that I've tried but unmerged at one time or another. However, other packages that I've also tried but unmerged at other times aren't listed like this. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "Package in world file is not installed"
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 2:13 pm, Ian Tindale wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 1:35 pm, Don Smith wrote: > > Ian Tindale wrote: > > >Every time I try for an emerge world, I get a series of "Package in > > > world file is not installed" yadda yadda yadda messages. > > > > Try running regenworld. It will double check your world file. > > Just tried that. Still does it. It's still doing it no matter what I do. Oh well, I'll leave it as it is - it seems like a harmless fault for now. Strange that there's no information whatsoever - searches for the error don't bring up much at all, other than that other people have seen it but not found a solution. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "Package in world file is not installed"
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 1:35 pm, Don Smith wrote: > Ian Tindale wrote: > >Every time I try for an emerge world, I get a series of "Package in world > > file is not installed" yadda yadda yadda messages. > > Try running regenworld. It will double check your world file. Just tried that. Still does it. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] "Package in world file is not installed"
Every time I try for an emerge world, I get a series of "Package in world file is not installed" yadda yadda yadda messages. Is there an easy fix? Is the system doomed? Should I just make a cup of tea and cry? -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo and Rendezvous
I'd like to ask the group a tentative and highly general fuzzy question about zeroconf and rendezvous. Not really a question, more of a 'what about this Rendezvous stuff, eh?': Here's a bit of background: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2002/12/20/zeroconf.html I've got Gentoo running now on three x86 machines here, and I have Jagwire (MacOS X.2) running on my iBook. I'd be interested to hear how much integration my Gentoo system can stretch toward the Rendezvous end. Rendezvous, or zeroconf, isn't specifically only an Apple thing, although that's where it's found most commonly, and that's where the name is branded most prominently. It'd be interesting to see it proliferate in Gentoo's environment too, perhaps. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What would cause Mozilla to not mozill?
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 9:20 am, Voicu Liviu wrote: > > Run it from console and see errors (if any) Tried that too - nothing. Not even the mozilling cursor. Just goes on to the next prompt silently. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] What would cause Mozilla to not mozill?
I've noticed that Mozilla 1.2.1 doesn't actually do anything. Start it up from the menu, it gives the endlessly pulsating cursor of Mozillaness, but this soon ends and suddenly, nothing more happens. At all. Not that I've missed it one iota - I've been using Knode & KMail instead, and Konqueror for the browser, so it's more a marginal irritation that there's something sitting on the system that took a big chunk of time to install and does nothing. Even if a solution transpired, I probably still wouldn't use it now. Maybe it's better like it is. I've even stopped using it on the iBook in favour of Safari in Jagwire. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Prob w/ dhcpcd...
On Monday 10 March 2003 4:42 pm, Mike Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 08:13, Mike Diehl wrote: > > Well, I still can't get dhcpcd to work. > > I very *vaguely* remember something about needing 'Socket Filtering' > under 'Networking Options' enabled for dhcp(c)d, so don't hold me to > anything! :) I get that fault any time I try to start dhcpd (which fails). They're there in the kernel. Webmin reports that dhcpd fails, every time. In the end I gave the machines here (3 others and an iBook) manually assigned IP numbers, until I find out why dhcpd doesn't go. Vanilla-flavoured kernel 2.4.20. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4.20 and Via Sound
On Friday 07 March 2003 2:29 pm, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > I am currently using gentoo-sources-2.4.19-r10 and I see that there is > an upgrade to 2.4.20-r1. > > I have an onboard VIA Sound system: > > 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 > Audio Controller (rev 40) > > that will only work with alsa, which is wonky even at best. Does anyone > know if the VT8233 has support added to 2.4.20? On a pair of Asus Terminator K7 machines, with vanilla 2.4.20, I ended up with these modules: cmpci sound uart401 ac97_codec via82cxxx_audio Hope that helps. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux as a print server for macs
On Monday 03 March 2003 9:39 pm, Matt Darland wrote: > 3. You could also look at the AppleTalk tools for Linux to emulate > an AppleTalk server( it's called 'netatalk' I believe ). This solution > would be the least expensive financially, and likely the most > compatible with OS9 but I don't know anything about how to set it up, > or if it really works :) I would recommend the NetATalk route first. It's cheap, and it works, if you can get your head round the setup. I've had it running before quite satisfactorily on previous Mandrake and Red Hat setups, ages ago. There's also a WebMin module for NetATalk too. Having trumpeted it loudly, I must admit I never got round to setting up printer serving, but the procedure for doing so didn't seem overly incomprehensible, so I should've given it a go. I only really wanted file serving, so I left it at that. Currently I don't have any OS 9 machines (other than a knackered Duo 230 that barely works and can only connect through Localtalk, so that doesn't count). I'm only running Jagwire these days on my iBook. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.1.2-r2.ebuild error
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 3:28 pm, Ian Tindale wrote: > On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:14 pm, Ian Tindale wrote: > > I think (I might be right) that the problem is a lack of end bracket in > > the file. > > Hmm. Just had the same fault on another ebuild* during installation of KDE. > Same solution - fix the missing last closing curly bracket in the file. ...and again, on 'gdk-pixbuf' Hmm... -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freetype-2.1.2-r2.ebuild error
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:14 pm, Ian Tindale wrote: > I think (I might be right) that the problem is a lack of end bracket in the > file. Hmm. Just had the same fault on another ebuild* during installation of KDE. Same solution - fix the missing last closing curly bracket in the file. Is this a common occurrence, and is it something wrong at my end or is it happening to other people in the outside world also? *(can't remember what the package was - a graphics related library - I just put the final curly bracket in and off it went. Should've taken notice). -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] freetype-2.1.2-r2.ebuild error
I'm doing a pair of installs at more or less the same time (one after the other when the CD was finished with). I've just noticed today that both units have faulted at a certain point - building freetype-2.1.2-r2.ebuild - an error is complained of. I think (I might be right) that the problem is a lack of end bracket in the file. I've edited the file on each and popped an end curly bracket in (which it looks like it needs, as there's an opening one with no closure (I'm not a programmer, but I've seen these things before in ActionScript)) and it goes ahead and works. Just thought anyone else might benefit from this. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] svg viewer?
On Sunday 23 February 2003 4:49 pm, gabor wrote: > hi, > > what do you use to view svg images? http://freshmeat.net/releases/63652/ Enjoy -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation progress - step 6 - confusing table
I don't understand the table that details swap space in the instructions on the website under step 6: Physical RAM Swapspace Size 0-48MB RAM 048-064MB RAM 064MB-128MB RAM 128-256MB RAM 256-512MB RAM 720MB 702MB 640MB 256MB There are only two column headers, but the first row of items seems to be five items wide, and the second row is four items wide. In which way should meaning be derived correctly from this? -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation progress - step 2, and nothing works.
On Friday 14 February 2003 13:08, Ian Tindale wrote: > doesn't apply to me, then on to Network Testing. Here I get differing > results too: I get the details for lo not eth0 (the loopback, I believe). > No eth0. That's where I'm up to so far. False alarm on this one - I need to manually use 'modprobe' to specify '8139too' on this Asus Terminator. Network is go now. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation progress - step 2, and nothing works.
On Friday 14 February 2003 12:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi
>
> if you are using the 1.4rc2 x86 live cd, then you have to set a
> password for the root login on console one before loggin on to
> other console.
>
> there must be some hint about this when you boot the live cd i'm
> sure.
No. I'm using 1.4_rc2 and the instructions on the website are for 1.4_rc2, and
they specifically state:
"You will be automatically logged in as "root" and the root password will be
set to a random string for security purposes. You should have a root ("#")
prompt on the current console, and can also open new root consoles by
pressing Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4. Get back to the one you started on by
pressing (you guessed it) Alt-F1."
I find that this isn't true.
I've skipped over step 2 and I'm past step 3 - none of which seems to apply to
me: no PCI modules in this machine, no SCSI modules either, no RAID and I've
not recieved any notification that DMA is or isn't enabled, so it's probably
not a problem.
In step 4 now, I've also noticed another anomaly. The text that appears when
the CD is booted and up to the root prompt says that to:
"Type net-config eth0 to eth0 IP address settings by hand"
If I do that, I get:
"bash: net-config: command not found"
This appears to conflict with the website instructions, which mention PPOE
(which doesn't apply to me), then automatic network setup, which uses
'net-setup eth0' instead (which I'm trying now). This gives me the
opportunity of using DHCP settings, which I've selected, now I go on to
manual DHCP configuration, which doesn't apply to me as I've just done the
automatic setup, then I go on to Manual Static configuration, which I can
skip as I've done it automatically, on to Proxy configuration, which also
doesn't apply to me, then on to Network Testing. Here I get differing results
too: I get the details for lo not eth0 (the loopback, I believe). No eth0.
That's where I'm up to so far.
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[gentoo-user] Installation progress - step 2, and nothing works.
Hi all. I've progressed to step 2 in the installation instructions. I've tried the Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4 idea suggested in step 2, but there's an apparent contradiction between what is said and what actually happens. It says that I can open up new root consoles using Alt-F2, Alt-F3 and Alt-F4. No I can't. It asks for a cdimage login: and whatever I type, it then asks for a password. Whatever I type it rejects it. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
