Re: [gentoo-user] no /dev/ttyUSB0 device
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:17:32 -0500 Andrew Gaffney wrote: According to my online resources, a device /dev/ttyUSB0 (or /dev/usb/USB0 or /dev/usb/tts/0) should be created. I just went through this same thing. For me, the device ended up in /dev/tts/USB0, I think. Thats where it ended up with my treo palm cellphone/pda, which uses usbserial and visor modules -- Andrew Gaffneyhttp://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Installer Project -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app
I prefer to think of killer features, so my vote is for the following: 1. the GPL - it means we can see the source and fix it if necessary (well I can't but the smarter cookies can and are usually prepared to help) 2. the plain text configuration file, for similar reasons. 3. the friendliness and willingness of the users and this type of mailing list. On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:22:20 -0400 Covington, Chris wrote: -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] isa sound card and alsa
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 12:32 +0200, krzaq wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 4:24 AM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FATAL: Error inserting snd_es18xx (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r5/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko): No such device First off, instead of using isapnp tools try the ISA PnP built in kernel 2.6. This _should_ get your card going without dumping uncomenting anything. I am going to say thanks for that now, rather than after I try it - mainly because I can't see my self getting round to it for a while! After all sound is not that important on a server, but seeing that it worked under knoppix my interest was piqued... It also has this groovy built in speaker, so I can get it to talk without hanging bulky speakers off it. BTW if anyone is interested it is a compaq ap500 workstation - yes yesteryear's graphical workstations with dual pentiums 450's are today's home servers - even if it does weigh more than the average commuter vehicle. As for the ES1869 I have a card witch shows in windows 98 as ES1887 but runs on the module ES688 (or similar, dont have the source...). Give that one a try. [OT] A note about ALSA. ALSA disappionted me greatly. A week ago I moved my home server to a new box, intel i810 mainboard video,audio integrated. When trying to get the integrated crappy AC97 to work ALSA produced terrible noise. The sound card was TOTALLY unusable. After moving back to OSS, card runs smoothly, no noise, nothing! Wierd ... -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:48:32 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:34:39 -0400 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | | I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days. | | wonderful. if it is gpl, let us take it for our use too. Why? Gentoo isn't the solution for everything. Sometimes a different distribution does the job you want better. Catering for newbies is one of those things that other distributions do better. No point wasting effort trying to expand Gentoo to *that* user market... OTOH if gentoo is about choice, why not let some keen individual compile the mandrake (or better still SuSE) X configuration tool for gentoo and submit an ebuild. You might not use it Ciaran, but others might. frankly I am a user of the -configure option in X, but I usually then have to tweak the monitor settings to get a good resolution. Anyway I can tell that the X gentoo devs will be unlikely to provide a gui, but cheers to anyone else who can be bothered. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues
your system time should be in UTC, the kernel keeps track of time in UTC, there is no alternative. If your problem is the reporting of time when, for example, you use the date command, then that is converted to localtime in two steps: 1. the system wide file called /etc/localtime, which should be a link to your locale in /usr/share/zoneinfo like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ ls -l /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Aug 7 2003 /etc/localtime - /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland 2. the TZ variable, which allows individual users to vary from the system wide locale, eg if you logged into my server from the other side of the world you may want to set TZ so you got your local time. example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ date Wed Apr 6 13:53:16 NZST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ TZ=PST date Wed Apr 6 01:53:23 PST 2005 Short story, check your /etc/localtime link. On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:49:06 -0400 Philippe Gagnon wrote: Greetings, My system seems to reset the system time to UTC each times I reboot. Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks. Philippe. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:45:11 -0400 Philippe Gagnon wrote: Nick Rout wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Mar 12 10:15 /etc/localtime - /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Montreal It seems okay to me.. But I still get issues. : - / No TZ has been set. what is the output of date? do you dual boot windows? what is CLOCK set to in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/conf.d/clock? is /etc/init.d/clock in your runlevel? (should be in boot i think) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:41:09 -0700 John Myers wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 07:20, Digby Tarvin wrote: Now on my old SuSE KDM, underneath the Password line is heading Session Type with a drop down menu which in its passive state shows the window manager that will be used by default once you enter your user name. On the bottom line are four buttons/menus: Go, Clear, Menu and Shutdown, with 'menu' just containing the 'restart x-server' option. However on my Gentoo install, I get no Session Type line, and only three options on the bottom line: Login, Clear and Menu. Now the Shutdown and Session Type functionality does exist on the gentoo setup, but it is burried down in the 'Menu' sub-menus, nowhere near as convenient to get to, and as I change window managers all the time, annoying not to have a display of what the default is going to be for the next session. So I am curious - is there a setting somewhere that I have not stumbled accross that controls this behaviour? Has KDM taken a backward step? Or did SuSE make some improvements that hasn't found their way into other systems yet?? AFAIK, you're out of luck, unless you want to modify the KDM source yourself. I don't remember how 2.2 kdm worked, but I know all the 3.x kdms I've used have the layout you describe. Also, IIRC, there have been discussions on the KDE lists about what the name of the Menu menu should be, because of its contents, including the Session Type submenu. Actually , now that you mention it, I do remember the session type option. But I certainly haven't seen it since I moved to Gentoo (post-kde-3.0), and I do think it eventually disappeared from my Mandrake kdm back when I used Mandrake. Like John I am pretty sure that this is a feature of the current kdm setup. I got lost finding sessions to start with. I dunno why they hid it in menu - perhaps to unclutter, or perhaps to be less confusing to people that just want to keep using the same WM. BTW the graphical configurator for kdm can be started with kcmshell kdm - or somewhere in the k menu. -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] register to know certain event?
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:43:17 +0800 ?? ? wrote: I hope I am not the only one who have this requirement: I am a normal Gentoo user, I wish to: 1) if there is a new version of xorg-x11 gets stable on sparc (that is, keyword masked by 'sparc') I get email notification of that; 2) if there is a new version of gnome (in my case, gnome-2.10) gets stable on sparce, please let me know. Currently what I am doing is check portage once a week to see if it happens. Is there such a service I can register to see all the event related to certain packages? I don't think so, but you could always write a script to download a certain ebuild, and compare it to what is in your own portage, and to tell you if it had any changes. Just an idea. -- 锐业软服 Real SoftService http://www.realss.com 技术服务电话: 0086 592 2086411 Technical Contact: 0086 592 2086411 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] register to know certain event?
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:43:17 +0800 ?? ? wrote: I hope I am not the only one who have this requirement: I am a normal Gentoo user, I wish to: 1) if there is a new version of xorg-x11 gets stable on sparc (that is, keyword masked by 'sparc') I get email notification of that; 2) if there is a new version of gnome (in my case, gnome-2.10) gets stable on sparce, please let me know. Currently what I am doing is check portage once a week to see if it happens. Is there such a service I can register to see all the event related to certain packages? another approach would be to get a script to download the appropriate packages.gentoo.org page, for example: http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=x11-base;name=xorg-x11 and parse the output for what you want. Just an idea. -- 锐业软服 Real SoftService http://www.realss.com 技术服务电话: 0086 592 2086411 Technical Contact: 0086 592 2086411 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you avoid petty upgrades?
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:27:16 -0700 Robert Persson wrote: but if I *-r bumps do sometimes include security patches then blocking them arbitrarily would probably not be such a good idea after all. don't forget a security patch can be as small as changing the default configuration or startup options. Thanks Brian, Chris and Nick for your suggestions and for clearing that up for me. a pleasure Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120
I found these with a simple google: gv4l - front end to transcode's v4l functions streamer - front end to xawtv ffmpeg - command line kmediagrab avicap I am sure there are many many others. actually kino will capture v4l too. On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 08:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Has anyone done this? Can you recommend some Linux apps that will make video capture and relatively simple movie editing easy for my 12 year old? He's capturing XBox tricks and makes me boot my Gentoo laptop back into Win XP so that he can do the capture. The DVC120 is visible to things like usbview but after that I don't know where to turn. I tried Kino but it seemed very 1394 specific. I had bad experiences with Cinelera on another platform and am not anxious to build that unless it's significantly improved. I'm running a custom 2.6.9 kernel if it matters. Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Distcc on Windows/Mac?
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:23:02 -0400 Matthew Cline wrote: There was a tiny liveCD called distcc-knoppix. The iso was ~50MB. It booted up and started distccd immediatly. Google for it, though there may be issues with gcc version. The last time I checked the distcc-knoppix website, the project's maintainer stated that there might be problems using it with Gentoo. I cannot remember the exact reason why, something to do with the fact that Gentoo uses a specially-patched version of gcc? make your own using catalyst I have done it, but it was a year ago so all versions are out of date. Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help!: ATI -and Gentoo -and ( Xorg -or Xfree86 )
please stop shouting, what precisely is the question? if you want your ATI card sorted, why do we have to be bombarded with info on your router and partitioning? On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:49:02 -0400 Robert G. Hays wrote: -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120
I assume it is a video for linux (v4l) or v4l2 driver, in which case when the modules loads it should create a device called something like /dev/v4l/video0 What is the module that gets loaded when you plug the thing in anyway? (lsmod before and after should tell you) Take a look around in the /dev directory, and look at dmesg and your kernel logs when you plug the device in. xawtv is probably the simplest front end to see that you are in fact picking up a video signal. $ xawtv -c /dev/v4l/video0 actually I just noticed xawtv also has a hwscan option like this: $ xawtv -hwscan This is xawtv-3.86, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.11-gentoo-r2) looking for available devices port 105-105 type : Xvideo, image scaler name : NV10 Video Overlay port 106-137 type : Xvideo, image scaler name : NV05 Video Blitter port 138-138[ -xvport 138 ] type : Xvideo, video overlay name : NVIDIA Video Interface Port /dev/v4l/video0: OK [ -device /dev/v4l/video0 ] type : v4l2 name : BT878 video ( *** UNKNOWN/GENER flags: overlay capture tuner Which should help you find the device. On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:16:41 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 12:34 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found these with a simple google: gv4l - front end to transcode's v4l functions streamer - front end to xawtv ffmpeg - command line kmediagrab avicap I am sure there are many many others. actually kino will capture v4l too. Nick, Thanks. I was looking at a couple of these yesterday. I think they might work, or at least do part of the job, if I could figure out how to tell them about the Dazzle device. So far that eludes me. How do I tell Kino about USB devices? Don't feel the need for big explanations if you can jsut point me toward a web site somewhere. thanks much, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Keeping things clean
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:04:06 +0900 Jason Stubbs wrote: For distfiles, I do similar to the following: # mv /usr/portage/distfiles /usr/portage/distfiles.old # mkdir -p /etc/portage # echo local /usr/portage/distfiles.old /etc/portage/mirrors # emerge -ef world # rm /etc/portage/mirrors # rm -rf /usr/portage/distfiles.old Regards, Jason Stubbs Jason, great tip, I have reproduced it on my local LUG wiki. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120
Mark, I had assumed that you had ascertained that the device is supported in linux. Maybe it isn't? Brief goolging, and searching the usb linux database at http://qbik.ch is not promising. On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:35:29 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: More or less the same results on my Gentoo laptop. I'm here now: 1) No changes in modules loaded 2) No /dev/v4l directory 3) Strange dmesg results: I'm not sure what I should be looking for in my kernel's .config file: flash linux # cat .config | grep VIDEO CONFIG_IEEE1394_VIDEO1394=m CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m # CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_PMS is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_BWQCAM is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_CQCAM is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_W9966 is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_CPIA is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5246A is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5249 is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_STRADIS is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA7134 is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_MXB is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_DPC is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_HEXIUM_ORION is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_HEXIUM_GEMINI is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88 is not set # CONFIG_VIDEO_OVCAMCHIP is not set It would pay to make all of those as modules and see if any work. CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y flash linux # cat .config | grep V4 flash linux # Thanks much, Mark Christchurch Ah...Christchurch...I love that town. wow you know it? cool! clear blue skies, nice autumn day today - MWK -- -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:14:23 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: It would pay to make all of those as modules and see if any work. Where do I set up Video for Linux? make menuconfig then choose: device drivers multimedia devices video for linux -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Turn of maildir
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:39:02 -0500 Harry Putnam wrote: Robert S [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if this is relevant, but you can compile sendmail with or without the mbox USE flag - I think that that determines whether mail goes to maildir or not: [...] Appears to be very relevant ... thanks. My use flag for mbox was - - mbox : Adds support for mbox (/var/spool/mail) style mail spools So, apparently that is my problem. I'm still just learning the emerge/portage setup so not really sure how to redo that. Does one have to change basic USE flag setting somewhere or can they be set at emerge time? If so can you show a simple example? Before you go recompiling anything, or changing your configs, tell us what is your local delivery agent (LDA)? Many setups do not have sendmail or postfix actually delivering local mail, they pass it off to procmail or similar. If procmail is delivering yourr mail, you need to change procmail, not sendmail. Also are you sure you really want to go to mbox? it is in most ways inferior. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] isa sound card and alsa
I have a box that has an alsa sound card. It works in knoppix, but I
suspect that is oss as the modules is called sb, which doesn't sound
like a alsa module to me.
pnpdump (stripped of comments) looks like this, and I assume thereofre
that it is a ess1869, and that the es18xx module is the one to use.
(READPORT 0x0273)
(ISOLATE PRESERVE)
(IDENTIFY *)
(VERBOSITY 2)
(CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING
(CONFIGURE ESS0003/-1 (LD 0
(NAME ESS0003/-1[0]{ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive})
))
(CONFIGURE ESS0003/-1 (LD 1
(NAME ESS0003/-1[1]{ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive})
))
(CONFIGURE ESS0003/-1 (LD 2
(NAME ESS0003/-1[2]{ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive})
))
(WAITFORKEY)
I have done pnpdump -c /etc/isapnp.conf
When I start the isapnp service I get this:
serva root # /etc/init.d/isapnp stop start
* Configuring ISA PnP devices...
Board 1 has Identity d7 ff ff ff ff 03 00 73 16: ESS0003 Serial No -1
[checksum d7]
ESS0003/-1[0]{ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive}: Port 0x800; --- Enabled OK
ESS0003/-1[1]{ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive}: Ports 0x220 0x388 0x300;
IRQ7 DMA1 DMA0 --- Enabled OK
ESS0003/-1[2]{ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive}: Port 0x201; --- Enabled OK
[ ok ]
Hwever when I try to load the module all I get is crap:
serva root # modprobe snd-es18xx irq=7 port=0x220 dma1=1 dma2=0 mpu_port=0x388
fm_port=0x300
FATAL: Error inserting snd_es18xx
(/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r5/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko): No such
device
Its annoying me, it seems no matter what I try as module parameters it
just doesn't work!
Can anyone help me get this to go?
--
Nick Rout
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Turn of maildir
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:28:48 -0500 Harry Putnam wrote: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Before you go recompiling anything, or changing your configs, tell us what is your local delivery agent (LDA)? I'm using procmail. I've written the *.mc to include it and certain other things. I now how to setup procmail to do what I want and ahve used it for years. However, there are times when I want to remove ~/.procmailrc for sometest or other and just allow mail to be delivered to default spool. Many setups do not have sendmail or postfix actually delivering local mail, they pass it off to procmail or similar. If procmail is delivering yourr mail, you need to change procmail, not sendmail. Yes, as is the case here. But as explained above. I want to change sendmail not procmail. I have no need or desire to default to ~/.maildir and in fact it interferes with my method of testing since I'm very familiar with mbox or /var/mail/ delivery accumulated quite a number of hand written tools an scripts based on mbox format. Also are you sure you really want to go to mbox? it is in most ways inferior. Yes, for my usage (2 user home network) mbox is superior. But of course we are now into the slippery ground of opinion. For me its simpler and more tools recognize it by default. Such as mutt and a number of home written perl scripts and etc. OK I understand now that you are not floundering in the dark, or jumping in where angels fear etc. Recompiling without the maildir USE flag and with the mbox flag should help, as already discussed. Having said that I have never done it, don't use sendmail and am wedded top maildir for the moment. Good luck :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uD world trashed my website
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 00:28 -0400, Shawn Singh wrote: Hey all, His experience is pretty interesting... Does portage keep track of settings so that you don't have reconfigure it everytime you do an upgrade of a package? In other words, if (for example) I emerge apache and it reconfigured to serve webs from /var/www/html, instead of /usr/local/htdocs/ would portage get updated with that new information? in fact apache is configured to serve from /var/www/localhost/htdocs, although I understand users are encouraged to use a feature which provides virtualised services. I think you could make doubly sure that portage did not clobber your files by adding the base directory to CONFIG_PROTECT in /etc/make.conf Portage is pretty smart especially in comparison to other software management tools (up2date, and mandrake update)...so I wouldn't be surprised if it did. On Apr 4, 2005 5:03 PM, Mike Turcotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I just finished doing an emerge -uD world and portage updated apache2 along with numerous other things. I was wondering why I could not get my site working again till I realised that the upgrade process completely wiped the directory that my web site was stored in. What I don't understand is that the directory isn't even the default one that apache uses. How did this happen? And to put the icing on the cake, I did not have a backup, as I was planning on emerging a backup utility once world was done. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unsubscribe
If unsubscribing from this list is too hard for you, then so is gentoo! On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 02:43 -0700, Patrick Clery wrote: unsubscribe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Please search mailing list archives (was: Can't build media-libs/flac-1.1.0-r2)
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:04:56 -0700 John Myers wrote: On Sunday 03 April 2005 19:28, Walter Dnes wrote: grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory Obviously, you have not done even the bare minimum of trying to help yourself. This has been discussed so many times on this list, I can't even keep track. The answer is a one-line shell command. Let me guess... your last package merged was gcc, an upgrade from version 3.3.4. Try searching the mailing list archives. Or Google. Or something. But you have to at least try to help yourself before others will help you. as in http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/ -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Please search mailing list archives (was: Can't build media-libs/flac-1.1.0-r2)
Walter the problem is not isolated to flac. Don't search on flac, search on the library that is missing On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:42:37 -0400 Walter Dnes wrote: FYI, I did search for all occurences of the string flac since March 1st (4500+ messages) in my Gentoo inbox. I got multiple hits, none of which were relavant to my problem, including one poster whose email address includes the string flac. I suggest you keep your current day job and abandon any dreams of a career as a clairvoyant. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you avoid petty upgrades?
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:06:31 -0700 Robert Persson wrote: It is my understanding - and please tell me if I'm wrong - that the r suffixes on the ends of ebuild versions represent fixes to the ebuild, rather than to the package itself. If that is so, would that mean that category/thing-x.y.z-r2 won't contain anything important (such as security fixes) that isn't already in version x.y.z-r1? In that case, is there a way to avoid these petty upgrades when I emerge -u world? you might want to try pye (pick your ebuild) gives you a list of what world will do and allows you to choose which ones you want. someone else will need to point out where to find it sorry as i cannot find the link. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 16:26 -0500, John Lowell wrote: Nick, Kashani, jstubbs and others, OK, *ifconfig *... eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:75:DC:B8:4E inet addr:192.168.1.44 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:110 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:1 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:37007 (36.1 Kb) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:9 Base address:0xfc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b and *route -n *... Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo There is very clearly a problem with the Gateway number and, perhaps, the Destination as well? A kernel problem, perhaps? user problem I think. Someone pointed out to you at the start of ther thread that you have the broadcast address wrong and you still haven't fixed it. and then set gateway in the config file. then restart the net.eth0 service. Thoughts? jlowell -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 18:08 -0500, John Lowell wrote: Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 16:26 -0500, John Lowell wrote: Nick, Kashani, jstubbs and others, OK, *ifconfig *... eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:75:DC:B8:4E inet addr:192.168.1.44 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:110 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:1 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:37007 (36.1 Kb) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:9 Base address:0xfc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b and *route -n *... Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo There is very clearly a problem with the Gateway number and, perhaps, the Destination as well? A kernel problem, perhaps? user problem I think. Someone pointed out to you at the start of ther thread that you have the broadcast address wrong and you still haven't fixed it. and then set gateway in the config file. then restart the net.eth0 service. Thoughts? jlowell -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Nick, I've solved the problem but it has nothing to do with the broadcast number and setting the gateway. Initially, changing broadcast to 192.168.1.255 and leaving the gateway setting where it has always been in /etc/conf.d/net, 192.168.1.1, gives no relief. Still can't ping the outside world. But running route add default gw 192.168.1.1 and pinging the web works. I've never had to do this before to get this box to the outside. The gateway address in /etc/conf.d/net has always been right, and frankly, I doubt if changing broadcast would have made any difference either. I can test that if you'd like. The way I read it, somehow the installation program isn't doing what it did the last time I installed gentoo. I'd appreciate knowing why it was necessary for me to run this command to fix the problem when /etc/conf.d/net was edited properly. Is this a bug? jlowell Stuffed if I know, but could you give us the exact gateway line from /etc/conf.d/net? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] checking user messages from emerge
look in /var/log/portage/ On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 07:41 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: How can I view the user messages from an emerge done in the past? In this case I emerged a new gcc on an old system last night and I just realised I need to check that the libpath is correctly set, and I think the path is mentioned at the end of the gcc emerge - but how do I check it now its long gone? BillK -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change Resolution
You really need to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log Quite likely your minitor is not being correctly probed by xorg, which therefore defaults to a low resolution. If that is the problem then you need to add HorizSync and VertRefresh lines into your configuration file in the monitor section. Here is mine as an example: Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model Option DPMS HorizSync35-85 VertRefresh 48-120 EndSection I have had surprisingly good luck finding rates for crappy monitors by googling. On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 23:51 +, Shawn Singh wrote: My screen resolution is set at 640 x 480...and (as you might understand) I'd like to change it. I've used the docs provided at: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml?style=printable As my guide but nothing has changed. This is a copy of my xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/lib/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load record Load extmod Load record Load extmod Load dbe Load dri Load glx Load xtrap Load freetype Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/mouse EndSectionOption Device /dev/mouse EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option HWcursor # [bool] #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option UseFBDev # [bool] #Option Rotate# [str] #Option VideoKey # i #Option Rotate# [str] #Option VideoKey # i #Option FlatPanel # [bool] #Option FPDither # [bool] #Option CrtcNumber# i #Option FPScale # [bool] #Option FPTweak # i Identifier Card0 Driver nv VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 Viewport 0 0 EndSubSection EndSection I'm running GNOME (if that makes any difference)... Thank you, Shawn Singh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and streaming wma
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 00:32 -0500, Phill MV wrote: That's my exact problem. Thanks. I don't want to start a big media player flamfest here, but you may want to take a look at kaffeine. don't get me wrong, I am a big mplayer fan too, but kaffeine seems to have improved my in-broswer experience enormously. On Apr 2, 2005 4:52 PM, Peter Gai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you have your mplayer compiled with the 'network' USE flag? That fixed the problem here... HTH Peter On Apr 2, 2005 11:22 PM, Phill MV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason mplayer can't handle some of the online radios my father likes to check out from time to time (i.e. going to http://www.tsf.pt/online/primeira/default.asp and clicking on TSF em directo on the navigation bar. See http://www.cbc.ca/listen/streams/r1_montreal_32.html for an english example of another radio I can't reach) and I really don't know why it doesn't work (win32codecs are installed right off portage). What usually happens when I visit such a site is that mplayer-in (the plugin of choice for watching videos on the web in firefox) is that it will simply hang, not giving me any info. This is what follows when I try it via a terminal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Desktop $ cat cbcr1-montreal.asx ASX VERSION=3.0 ENTRY REF HREF=mms://wm05.nm.cbc.ca/cbcr1-montreal / /ENTRY /ASX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Desktop $ mplayer cbcr1-montreal.asx MPlayer 1.0pre5try2-3.3.4 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred 1667 MHz (Family: 6, Stepping: 1) Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes MMX supported but disabled MMX2 supported but disabled SSE supported but disabled 3DNow supported but disabled 3DNowExt supported but disabled CPUflags: MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: Reading config file /usr/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf Reading config file /home/hiffy/.mplayer/config Reading /home/hiffy/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/home/hiffy/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory Reading /usr/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 73 audio 180 video codecs font: can't open file: /home/hiffy/.mplayer/font/font.desc Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars) Using usleep() timing Can't open input config file /home/hiffy/.mplayer/input.conf: No such file or directory Input config file /usr/share/mplayer/input.conf parsed: 53 binds Playing cbcr1-montreal.asx. Cache fill: 0.00% (99 bytes)XMMS: found plugin: libmp4.so (MP4 MPEG2/4-AAC audio player - 1.2.x) XMMS: found plugin: libwav.so (Wave Player 1.2.10) XMMS: found plugin: libmikmod.so (MikMod Player 1.2.10) XMMS: found plugin: libcdaudio.so (CD Audio Player 1.2.10) XMMS: found plugin: libtonegen.so (Tone Generator 1.2.10) XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libtonegen.so XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libcdaudio.so XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmikmod.so XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libwav.so XMMS: Closing plugin /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmp4.so Exiting... (End of file) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Desktop $ mplayer mms://wm05.nm.cbc.ca/cbcr1-montreal MPlayer 1.0pre5try2-3.3.4 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team [same stuff as above] Reading config file /usr/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf Reading config file /home/hiffy/.mplayer/config Reading /home/hiffy/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open '/home/hiffy/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory Reading /usr/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 73 audio 180 video codecs font: can't open file: /home/hiffy/.mplayer/font/font.desc Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars) Using usleep() timing Can't open input config file /home/hiffy/.mplayer/input.conf: No such file or directory Input config file /usr/share/mplayer/input.conf parsed: 53 binds Playing mms://wm05.nm.cbc.ca/cbcr1-montreal. Option stream url: This URL doesn't have a hostname part. File not found: 'cbcr1-montreal' Failed to open mms://wm05.nm.cbc.ca/cbcr1-montreal Exiting... (End of file) Any suggestions? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change Resolution
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 06:09 +, Shawn Singh wrote: I've made some changes, but this time I got a different error message. The message told me that no screens were found... you will need the error messages that come above the no screens founs. The log is usually long and spotting the right bit can be difficult. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: cron and top
probably cron doesn't know the path to top try /usr/bin/top -b -n 1 | mail email address On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 22:31 -0500, Matthew Cline wrote: I tried to run the following command as a daily cron job: # top -b -n 1 | mail email address However, all I get is a blank email. When I run this command manually, I get what I expected. Is there any reason why top would not work from cron? Thanks in advance, Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sometimes internet works only after /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restar
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 21:38 +0200, Antonio Coralles wrote: Dave Nebinger wrote: Is it possible to tell dhcpd to wait longer for a response, or eaven retry automatically in periodic time intervals if not succesfull ? man dhcpcd cat /etc/conf.d/net you will find out how to change the timeout if you read those two pieces of documentation :) antonio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't complete the install!
To cut a long story short it looks like the notorious ipv6 problem - wherein mirrorselect choses ipv6 mirrors (because ipv6 is enabled on the boot cd) but your chroot does not use ipv6. Find a mirror near you and put it in /etc/make.conf manually (within the chroot), the mirror list is easy to find off the main gentoo.org page. If that doesn't work use emerge-webrsync - once you have done that you have enough to complete the install, you don't need to emerge --sync after emerge-webrsync. On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 21:49 -0500, Robert G. Hays wrote: Gentoo universal CD + packages CD, 2004.3 By-the-book, literally -- I printed it and punched it into binder ! Note that I am typing sending this in Windows, thus some data may be off a *little*, since Gentoo doesn't work. - stage 1 install : - Tried mirrorselect -a -i, both: with without -bX emerge --sync only finds raven, raptor, heron, hawk, crane, cockatoo servers, no matter what. First server hit in a given run gets to about app-admin/?/io.c, at which point it gives code 30 at line 109 code 12 at line 189 and times out, follow-on servers give nothing except list-of-files. emerge-webrsync finds one server, I forget which. Says no md5's available at all, and quits. - stage 3 install : - same, even after I 'select with -o -i -b10, picking ~12 *new* servers retrying ~11 times. (Yes I mean that 'emerge --sync' hits the same 6 servers, or rather 4 of them per run, ignoring the servers I selected, or, retrying 11 times, -a -s12, recycles through same old 6.) emerge-webrsync finally found a server *I* told it to find, apparently worked, but... emerge --sync performed per previous paragraph, except different files fetched, still the io.c errors above. ... Rebooted to hdisk. Still can't get anything else, except one-at-a-time, and that has trouble. Can compile bzImage, can NOT compile modules without crash; seg-fault in various files, kernel panic in others. (SuSE 9.0 on target drive for ~10 months can compile anything, far more in a row than required to crash Gentoo-compiles, but oldconfig-bzImage does not match booted kernel, thus I will NOT patch-c. Otherwise, SuSE runs fine, always, no matter what the load.) And yes I dotted all the 'i's that I know of, in all above; 20+ years programming and everything else; I *do* know how to RTFM *follow* it. - Hardware c..: - Shuttle AN35N 400 Ultra+MCP mobo w/nVidia nForce2 chip ~6 months old. Never gets over ~45c. AMD XP 2700+, never gets over 51C, and that only once -- otherwise never over 47c. NO over-/under- -clock/-voltage. 1GB Centon RAM, as 512+256+256. www.simmtester.com for 12 hours no errors, repeatedly. Maxtor 30G hda. (Testing hd; will only fornicate with 'real' 120G when all works RIGHT.) ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 video 128MB, AGP8 Sound Blaster Live Value PCI 3Com '3c59x' NIC, PCI On-board Realtek sound nic both turned off. All BIOS parms set for precisely what I have. Precisely. - Netgear RP114 (updated) router between nic Westell modem to phone-co (bellsouth) DSL 1.5m/256k. - Drive-parts: 1) 512M dos 2) 200M linux boot 3) ~5.5G Win98/f32 4) (extended) 5) 1G unused limux (all-in-one) 6) 15M hidden dos 7) 15M dos 8) ~1G f32 9) ~1G f32 10) 1G swap 11) linux /, to end of drive; ~~20G. grub in 2). - Partitions router are NOT negotiable! I NEED correct ATI drivers to get *ALL* functionality avail on video card. I NEED Win4Lin (for W98se under linux to solve native-mode issues). I intend other things, but these two are NOT negotiable, or else I'll just have to keep running Wunnerful-Hic!-Winders98SE-HIC!!. **POSSIBLE** that the 30G hd is bad, but I doubt, rest of machine is as solid as a planet. Why crashes ignoring selected servers? PLEASE help! Thank you, Robert G. Hays -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 03:03 -0800, John Lowell wrote: I just completed a stage1 install from the minimal 2005.0 livecd on a box that will be used as a web server. I boot without incident, run ifconfig and get a perfectly suitable response, can ping my router successfully but, attempting to reach the web, get unknown host errors. The setup here is almost trite: Three workstations with dynamic addresses behind an ADSL router/switch which doubles as a dhcp server, and the webserver mentioned earlier with a static address outside the range authorized for dynamic service and with port 80 forwarded. I have /etc/conf.d/net with iface_eth0=192,168.1.44 Broadcast 192.168.0.255 NetMask 255.255.255.0 and gateway enabled at 192.168.1.1. /etc/resolv.conf shows proper nameserver numbers. I don't get it. The workstations all reach the web without difficulty. But the webserver, nothing but unknown host errors. This same machine was working just fine before the latest install with the very same configuration. Some help please. sounds like s dns problem. on the webserver what does /etc/resolv.conf say? I should include some nameserver lines. dhcp sets the nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf, a manula setup does not. I suspect thats the problem. copy the nameserver lines from one of the dhcp workstations. If that doesn't fix it try pinging an ip address on the net by number, eg ping 123.123.123.123 and let us know the results. jlowell -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't bind and pdnsd both dns servers? I don't think you can run both at once (and why would you?) On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 03:39 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: I don't think it is Gentoo way. I have installed net-dns/bind, but it isn't added to any runlevel script. Deleting the /etc/init.d/named file will break a correctness of net-dns/bind installation. === On Friday 01 April 2005 01:47, A. Khattri wrote: === On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Each Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache shows the message: * Caching service dependencies ... * Service 'named' already provided by 'dns'!; * Not adding service 'pdnsd'... What does it mean? I have not noticed any side effects. If you are replacing named with pdnsd then you will need to remove /etc/init.d/named -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!
I suggest the first thing is to fix this bloody mailing list and whatever it is doing that makes a large number of people who click reply send their message twice. PS I don't regularly post to the sender as well as the list, but if you are co-ordinating bug day, this is important to many people. On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 19:43 +0200, Bryan Oestergaard wrote: Greetings and salutation everybody! Here's your monthly bugday (like anybody could possibly forget :) that the next bugday is held saturday 2. april. Join #gentoo-bugs on irc://irc.freenode.net to participate in all the fun and occasional bugfixing :) Regards, Bryan stergaard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: On-topic, possible mailing list issue
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 08:13 +0200, Andrea Barisani wrote: This mailing list has gone goddamned crazy for the last few months. I am sick of it, I try to contribute, yet I am flooded with idiots posting messages twice (once to gentoo-user@gentoo.org and once to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That's because people doesn't know how to use their mail client and/or watching the screen before typing 'send', that issue has been widely discussed. yeah i know, and i am firmly of the view that as this is the only list that I am on (of very many) that exhibits the behaviour, it is a configuration problem. Technically your config may follow the letter of whatever standard(s) are applicable, but it is causing a problem that didn't arise before robin, and therefore I humbly submit that whatever configuration option is causing this to happen should be fixed. IE the previous configuration didn't exhibit the behaviour, and on my observation didn't seem broken, so it should be kept. I know that the ideal would be to educate the users to either use different clients or use their clients differently, but frankly the fact that very regular posters are double posting time and time again, hour after hour, day after day, week after week, means that user education is not working in this case. Assuming that the frequent posters, who are regularly offending, read the majority of the list mail, one would assume that if they were capable of being educated, it would have sunk in by now. They have done away with everything under 5c pieces here, so that will be 10 cents thanks. About this loop that's definetly a major problem that need to be solved immediately. and thanks for doing so :-) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!
if you are not using named, then delete it and rm /etc/init.d/named. On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 12:47 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Nick, You can see, I have net-dns/bind installed _only_. named is not added to any runlevel script!! rc-update -s ... mpd | mysql | default named | nessusd | net.eth0 | default ... === On Friday 01 April 2005 12:18, Nick Rout wrote: === Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't bind and pdnsd both dns servers? I don't think you can run both at once (and why would you?) On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 03:39 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: I don't think it is Gentoo way. I have installed net-dns/bind, but it isn't added to any runlevel script. Deleting the /etc/init.d/named file will break a correctness of net-dns/bind installation. === On Friday 01 April 2005 01:47, A. Khattri wrote: === On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Each Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache shows the message: * Caching service dependencies ... * Service 'named' already provided by 'dns'!; * Not adding service 'pdnsd'... What does it mean? I have not noticed any side effects. If you are replacing named with pdnsd then you will need to remove /etc/init.d/named -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 13:13 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: /etc/init.d/named is a part of net-dns/bind installation. Imagine the situation when I need to remove pdnsd from runlevel script and add named tinstead of pdnsd. both bind and pdns provide the service dns you cannot have both initscripts in /etc/init.d or things will break (as you have seen). if you want to keep bind installed, then back up the /etc/init.d/bind script to somewhere else (outside /etc/init.d) and try again. sorry if it wasn't well enough explained before :-) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 13:45 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: I see, I can remove/backup this file. The problem is I don't understand why the /etc/init.d/named file (more strictly, the fact, this service provides 'dns') is taken into account when the service is _not_ added to one of runlevel scrips. neither do i! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Monthly BugDay reminder!
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 11:40 +0200, Bryan Oestergaard wrote: I don't think 'fixing' is likely to happen as this discussion happens frequently. It mostly boils down to the list handling being correct but some clients seems to behave incorrectly. Personally, I'd prefer if the clients handle lists properly. See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40980 for more information. Regards, Bryan stergaard And if you look you will see I have posted there, and got no reponse, which is about par for the course from the admins on this list. I emailed one of the list admins twice yesterday with info on the mailing loop, in the hope that it might help her sort it quickly. Not so much as an acknowledgement or a thank you. That sucks. I have often thought about offering to help gentoo more actively, perhaps volunteering to help write documentation (I am no programmer), but the attitude of many of the people round here is frankly arrogant and rude, and every time I verge on offering to help, I get put off by that sort of behaviour. At the risk of annoying people, but for your benefit in case you don't read the whole list, here is something I posted in another message to the list on the subject of the email list configuration (the behaviour I am referring to is the dumping of the list address into to: and cc: on some clients): quote i am firmly of the view that as this is the only list that I am on (of very many) that exhibits the behaviour, it is a configuration problem. Technically your config may follow the letter of whatever standard(s) are applicable, but it is causing a problem that didn't arise before robin, and therefore I humbly submit that whatever configuration option is causing this to happen should be fixed. IE the previous configuration didn't exhibit the behaviour, and on my observation didn't seem broken, so it should be kept. I know that the ideal would be to educate the users to either use different clients or use their clients differently, but frankly the fact that very regular posters are double posting time and time again, hour after hour, day after day, week after week, means that user education is not working in this case. Assuming that the frequent posters, who are regularly offending, read the majority of the list mail, one would assume that if they were capable of being educated, it would have sunk in by now. /quote I say again, no other list I am on exhibits this problem, just bloody change it back the the way it used to be, right, wrong or debateable in technical terms. what is easiest and most convenient for the majority of users, and causes the least annoyances, is the right config I'll add that I have no problem if I hit reply in evolution, nor in Becky! (my client in the windows environment). It is other peoples messages that are annoying, not anything I have to do in my practice. However if I did have the problem of my client putting the list into To: and cc: I would understandably forget to delete the extra address most of the time. Its late and maybe I had a long day sorting out clients' (non computer) problems. Good night. On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 08:22:56PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: I suggest the first thing is to fix this bloody mailing list and whatever it is doing that makes a large number of people who click reply send their message twice. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 10:23 -0800, John Lowell wrote: Uwe, Thanks for writing. Broadcast with 0 is default in /etc/conf.d/net. I've tried it both ways with no difference being made. Regards. jlowell John, how about giving us the output of ifconfig and route -n on the offending machine. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Service named already provided by dns!
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 10:07 -0700, Kiawud wrote: Out of curiosity, what would happen if you modified the '/etc/init.d/named' file and commented out the line: provide dns Would that prevent Gentoo from thinking the '/etc/init.d/named' provided the 'dns' service? The best way to find out (short of reading and understanding the whole runlevel source code thing) would be to try it and see. Just a thought. -Hani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world
man emerge --buildpkgonly (-B) Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without actually merging the packages. This comes with the caveat that all build-time dependencies must already be emerged on the system. On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 20:51 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote: Hello I am updating a server I built some time ago using a GRP install. I want to do an emerge -uD world, but I want to know for sure this is going to work before doing this. Can I tell it somehow to compile all the packages but not install them? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 11:15 -0800, John Lowell wrote: - Original Message - From: Kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost! John Lowell wrote: Thanks for writing. Broadcast with 0 is default in /etc/conf.d/net. I've tried it both ways with no difference being made. Why don't we clear this up and have you post your ifconfig and netstat -rn kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Kashani, I certainly can post ifconfig and will but the netstat -rn is a problem. The command is not available to me with just the basic packages installed. This was a fresh stage1. I'll need to reconfigure /etc/conf.d/net for dhcp service to get the appropriate e-builld. Before I do that, have you any other thoughts or recommendations? yeah for god's sake ifconfig and route -n jlowell -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 22:59 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote: So what do I do if something fails when I emerge all this stuff? Is my server going to go down? I am just wondering if there is anything I can do to protect myself from downtime and errors. I did a pretend emerge and there are a TON of dependencies well I am no expert, but if you want to take it one step at a time, how about noting down what emerges portage wants to do (for example emerge -uDp world ~/portage.todo then manually go through and install one at a time. Don't foprget that if an emerge fails it hasn't removed the old version. The old version isn't removed until after the new one is successfully built. One thing that could happen though is that a library might get updated with a version that is not completely backwards compatible. Then something that depends on the old version doesn't compile cleanly, you are left with the old version of the app, not working because the old library has disappeared. I think at some stage you need to bite the bullet though. A thought: if you installed a GRP, why not update to the latest GRP precompiled stuff, the 2005.0 binaries are pretty new :-) To do that I would do something like this: *download the package .iso for your arch *update portage to the same snapshot as used for the 2005.0 builds *mount the .iso in a known location *point gentoo at that location for its package directory *do an emerge -uDkp world to see what portage wants to do. * those last two can be combined with PKGDIR=/known/location emerge -uDkp world Nick Rout wrote: man emerge --buildpkgonly (-B) Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without actually merging the packages. This comes with the caveat that all build-time dependencies must already be emerged on the system. On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 20:51 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote: Hello I am updating a server I built some time ago using a GRP install. I want to do an emerge -uD world, but I want to know for sure this is going to work before doing this. Can I tell it somehow to compile all the packages but not install them? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages only when doing emerge world
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 23:45 -0500, A. Khattri wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Mike Turcotte wrote: So what do I do if something fails when I emerge all this stuff? Is my server going to go down? I am just wondering if there is anything I can do to protect myself from downtime and errors. Im sorry but the previous post already answered the question by quoting the documentation. An emerge that fails does *not* get merged into your file-system and building binary packages also skips the merge step. (So how would it break your server if the package never gets merged into your file system?) man emerge I think the problem is that if you build a whole lot of packages only, without installing them, then (because each package is not actually installed on a live filesystem) any package that depends on an earlier one will fail. I know what I'm saying, but it isn't coming out right... -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Poll? What applications do you want to see?
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 19:06 +1200, Dion Sole wrote: Seriously Can you stop sending the same message over and over again? He isn't, its a loop. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dual-boot Windows with Gentoo? (say it ain't so)
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 08:57 -0800, Grant wrote: I have three Gentoo workstations. One is a laptop I take with me, and the other two are used by other people and stay at a remote location that I only visit occasionally. I would like nothing more than to have Gentoo and only Gentoo on these three machines but I'm scared of something not working at the wrong time. I'm happy to only make system changes according to GLSAs when I'm not at home base (where problems can be worked out slowly), but here are the two scenarios that freak me out: 1. I'm traveling and need to connect my laptop to strange Internet connections that (with Linux) require exotic configs. 2. I'm traveling and I apply a GLSA to one of the systems and something important breaks (network connectivity, xorg, etc). I do have VMware Workstation running XP on each system, but that relies on most of Gentoo working. I hate to say it, but it seems like maybe I should set up a dual-boot configuration on each of these machines so they can boot into Windows when Gentoo isn't working. The main issues I have with this are: 1. the remote administration problems 2. the security implications I've been running all of this over in my head, and I thought I'd get your guys' advice. From what I've read, dual booting XP with Linux is a real hassle. I could use 98SE instead, but it's really not as sweet. Get over it, maintain your system conservatively, without making major changes on the road. What makes you think windows is any use to you in this regard. Dial in or join a strangers network on your w98 box by all means, but don't forget to go to the windows update centre before you connect, to make sure you are protected from the latest threat. Oh you have to be on the network to do that - catch 22 :( - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Donation Link invisible in Firefox
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 10:41 +0200, Spider wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 19:47 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: I wanted to donate to gentoo, there has been some recent stuff on the home page. In firefox the link to the paypal donation page does not show up, in konqueror it does. Screenshots: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~nickr/firefox-donate.png http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~nickr/konq-donate.png In firefox the link is there, but invisible, if you know where to look. Is anyone else having this problem, and who should I tell? The foundation may indeed be missing out... Are you sure you haven't ticked [x] Load Images [x] for the originating web site only Where the latter checkbox will cause this to happen. Puzzle solved, I cannot remember changing that setting, but I guess that firefox picked its settings up from mozilla (didn't it?) and I've had mozilla, well, since I started on gentoo. genlop -l tells me the first package it knows about was in Dec 2002, but I installed it well before that. //Spider -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] IMAP and procmail - a simple question...
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 10:39 +0100, Steve wrote: Nick Rout wrote: What you are doing wrong is that you are not reading the procmail documentation :) To deliver to a maildir you need to add a / at the end of the directory name like: :0: * ^Subject:.*aardvark Aardvark/ Otherwise it does the standard deliver to mbox. In one! Thanks (everyone) -- I wonder why this gem is so well hidden in most docs? Hmmm. Pleased to be of help :-) By the way in this stanza: :0: * ^Subject:.*aardvark Aardvark/ you do not need the second : in :0: The second : says create a lock file so that nothing else interferes with writing to the target file You don't need that with maildir, because nothing else will have reason to write to the file. You need it for mbox, because its a folder in one file, and all sorts of programs may access the mbox, including procmail making the next delivery. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple simultaneous emerges
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 20:16 +0100, Nicolai Guba wrote: Nick Rout wrote: Not usually, but you might run into problems, if for example a library changes via one ebuild while another is compiling against it. perhaps. I do it all the time, no probles so far. I am not sure what will happen if the same package is in both lists, ie if emerge X has Y as a dependency, and emerge Z has the same dependency. On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 17:22 -0800, Grant wrote: You might notice that sometimes it tries to unpack a package that is currently being compiled if you emerge the same 'class'. Obviously that results in a 'pulled the chair under my arse' effect and the compile fails because previously compiled objects are missing :P Agreed, it pays to be careful, I would not do two complex ebuilds with many dependencies at the same time. And definitely check that both aren't going to emerge the same dependency. However, as an example, I was doing an install the other day, and emerged stuff lioke vixie-cron and mc at the same time. In fact at one point I was using 4 consoles with 2 or 3 emerges going and setting up rc files in the 4th. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apology (was Re: On-topic, possible mailing list issue)
Apologies accepted, and also given by me as I have been very grumpy about the goddamn mess this list is in. It seems to me that on some messages, at some point, someone called gary at smtp dot nildram dot co dot uk gets added into the To: or CC: list and then the mail starts looping. Can't the list admins at least find out if gary is subscribed and get him off the list? I see signs of a MS smtp agent somewhere in some of the headers. On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:59:27 +0200 Richard Fish wrote: All, I sincerely apologize for my foul language in the previous message. While it was an accurate representation of my thoughts, the language was inappropriate for a public list. And now it gets to be in the mail list archives forever. Oh joy. And Nick, even the thoughts weren't directed at you. I was just upset that my name was attached to one of the mail loops, and while not a good excuse, my anger was/is directed squarely at that silly smtp.nildram.co.uk server. -Richard Richard Fish wrote: Well, I didn't send... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: On-topic, possible mailing list issue
It seems to be something to do with the fact that for some reason you also sent it to gary at smtp dot nildram dot co dot uk which somehow seems to have redirected it to the list again. and possible reader at newsguy dot com Take alook at the headers. This mailing list has gone goddamned crazy for the last few months. I am sick of it, I try to contribute, yet I am flooded with idiots posting messages twice (once to gentoo-user@gentoo.org and once to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Now this! On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:35:42 +0200 Richard Fish wrote: Dave Nebinger wrote: I received six different copies of Mark's message... Make that 8 copies now... I'm trying to figure out how two copies of my email Re: My system startup (was More on fbuffer and grub setup) went to the list also...30 minutes apart. I don't *think* I did that...but it is getting late here. I'm sure posting more messages to the list will make it better... ;- -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage and package specific CFLAGS
I thought perhaps
CFLAGS=whatever CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} emerge foo
no doubt some dev guru will tell me I am way out of line :-)
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:14:48 +0200
Antonio Coralles wrote:
How can I tell portage to use specific CFLAGS for a particular package
without temporary changing my /etc/make.conf ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] strip
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 06:52 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can switch off the stripping by setting the nostrip variable in the FEATURES variable in /etc/make.conf. The problem with that is that it is global. Setting 'nostrip' is something that is probably wanted on a per-package basis more often than as a global option. I think that setting the 'debug' USE flag for a package should, where this causes the package to generate debugging info, automatically select 'nostrip' for that package. In the odd case it may be needed what is wrong with: FEATURES=nostrip emerge foo perhaps we need per package feature via an addition to /etc/portage - /etc/portage/package.features with a line like: app-misc/foo nostrip -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] IMAP and procmail - a simple question...
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 19:11 +0100, Steve wrote: I'm using the latest dovecot IMAP server to successfully access my mail remotely with Thunderbird... and I've implemented system-wide spamassassin using a procmail in /etc/procmail - all this works fine. --my /etc/procmailrc-- DEFAULT=$HOME/.maildir/ SHELL=/bin/sh MAILDIR=$HOME/.maildir :0fw * 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f -- I hit problems when I try to tailor procmail for a specific user... I want to move all mails with a subject of aardvark into my existing Aardvark IMAP folder - so I tried this: -- ~/.procmailrc -- DEFAULT=$HOME/.maildir/ SHELL=/bin/sh MAILDIR=$HOME/.maildir :0: * ^Subject:.*aardvark Aardvark -- This creates a file called ~/.maildir/Aardvark which contains the text of the message - which isn't what I wanted at all... It is not recognised by dovecot - so doesn't arrive in my mail client. I noticed that the Aardvark IMAP folder was represented by a .Aardvark directory - but if I replace Aardvark with .Aardvark then all I get is a file msg.8h3 in this directory - and this isn't recognised by dovecot either (not being with the other messages in new, tmp or cur.) My procmailrc above looks similar to all the examples I've seen - I've never seen one specifying /new at the end or anything like that. Can anyone spot what I'm doing wrong? What you are doing wrong is that you are not reading the procmail documentation :) To deliver to a maildir you need to add a / at the end of the directory name like: :0: * ^Subject:.*aardvark Aardvark/ Otherwise it does the standard deliver to mbox. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] a closet server
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:41:48 -0800 Grant wrote: Where do you guys go when you want a barebones server for the closet? I've built machines before but it seems like it might make more sense to buy one these days. I often have old machines given to me or find companies throwing out perfectly functioning old machines - clean them up, put in new drives and fans in and they work just fine! I obviously don't know anything about this, but I remember reading about how Gentoo is going in the direction of allowing you to chain the processing power of a bunch of machines together. Is that distributed computing? Grant, where have you been for the last five or ten years? This has nothing to do with gentoo, its a linux thing. Try this for but one example http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;719533135;fp;512;fpid;1889228632 google for any combination of the following: linux clustering openmosix beowulf - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/db - required?
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:57:04 -0500 Ed Jabbour wrote: On Tuesday 29 March 2005 04:16 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:00:23 -0500 Matthew Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | You can use qpkg to find those packages that depend upon another: Not for system targets. Then what does the following mean? Is it unreliable? sys-libs/db-1.85-r1 DEPENDED ON BY: app-arch/rpm-4.2 dev-lang/perl-5.8.5-r5 dev-lang/python-2.3.4-r1 mail-mta/postfix-2.1.5-r2 sys-devel/libperl-5.8.5 sys-libs/pam-0.77-r6 and on and on for all the installed versions. What are you asking? if it is do all of the following depend on db, or is this a mistake? the answer is yes they all depend on db -- Wernher von Braun aimed for the stars . . . unfortunately, he hit London. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Webcam Logitech QuickCam IM
It has the same ID's as this one: http://qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=2889 So presumably, and tentatively, yes On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:30:06 -0300 romildo wrote: Hello. Is the Logitech QuiCam IM supported under Linux? Is the driver directly available for it in Gentoo? Vendor ID: 0x046d Product ID: 0x08a0 Romildo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: More on fbuffer and grub setup
does /boot contain a recursive link to itself? It should [EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo $ ls -l /boot [trim] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 Mar 28 08:51 boot - . On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 22:31 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Zarick Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, What happens with this setup is that I get a grub prompt on boot instead of the selection console or splash and boot or whatever is supposed to happen. Instead, I get the grub command line. If you get a GRUB command line but no selection menu, you can think GRUB *is installed* on the MBR but just doesn't know your configuration. Then, I think you should first double check the config file of GRUB. Where do you save it? It should be /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/grub.conf What follows is the actual output of the commands shown but has been editted for brevity hoping to eliminate possilbe typos. ls -l /boot/grub: (output trimmed and limited to pertinent files Trimmed out all the `stage' stuff) root299 Mar 29 15:49 grub.conf root 1495 Mar 22 09:57 grub.conf.sample root289 Mar 29 15:39 grub.conf~ root 20 Mar 29 13:15 menu.lst - /boot/grub/grub.conf root 196836 Mar 22 09:57 nbgrub root 197860 Mar 22 09:57 pxegrub root 33856 Mar 22 09:57 splash.xpm.gz If your boot partition is hda1, you also need to make sure that the /boot is mounted properly. That is: $ mount /dev/hda1 /boot mount: (output trimmed for brevity) /dev/hda5 on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw,noatime) grep '/boot' /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1/bootext3 defaults,noatime 1 1 cat /boot/grub/grub.conf: default 0 timeout 05 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz Title=gentoo root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.9-gentoo-r1 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linux ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.6.9-gentoo-r1 Where to from here...? I'm not spotting the problem that causes me to get a grub command line on boot. A little added info: I've tried it with lilo, which I know to be a robust and reliable tool from years of using it to boot linux. I get the main initrid and the resulting console in the requested resolution but still don't get a frame buffer: cat /etc/lilo.con: boot=/dev/hda prompt timeout=50 default=gentoo image=/boot/kernel-2.6.9-gentoo-r1 label=gentoo read-only root=/dev/ram0 append=init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda5 hdc=ide-scsi hdd-ide-scsi video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.9-gentoo-r1 So, at least I'm getting the console res I wanted with lilo, but still the fbuffer eludes me. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Donation Link invisible in Firefox
I wanted to donate to gentoo, there has been some recent stuff on the home page. In firefox the link to the paypal donation page does not show up, in konqueror it does. Screenshots: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~nickr/firefox-donate.png http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~nickr/konq-donate.png In firefox the link is there, but invisible, if you know where to look. Is anyone else having this problem, and who should I tell? The foundation may indeed be missing out... -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Where could i found the standard of SQL
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:34 +0800, Wang Penghui wrote: 2005-03-28 19:18 +1200Dion Sole AFAIK, you have to pay for those two standards -_- This sounds a bad news. Could i found some related documents in the Internet or any other place? Thanks Wang Penghui Whatever the answer is, it will be the same no matter how many times you repeat the email! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Runlevel schizophrenia...
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=4 On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 12:11 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: Here is another basic gentoo newbie question - what is the logic behind the way runlevels work in gentoo?? Thanks, DigbyT -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period
1. Every release has a big selection of precompiled GRP packages. 2. http://chinstrap.alternating.net has the same, and is kept up to date. On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 02:12 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: So far I've spent a very lot of time waiting for something to finish emerging. It seems like things like Mozilla take an extrordinary long time. OK, mozilla is a strage example. OTOH, I really like Gentoo, but certainly not for compiling everything by myself. I'd really like to see some precompiled packages. Most of the Gentoo Gurus will blame me because selfcompiling is one of the major differences of the Gentoo system. But the Gentoo guidelines clearly state that Gentoo is designed the way that the user has choices. And one of the choices could be: precompiled packages. I see no reason why precompiled packages with all available use flags set shouldn't be possible. In my opinion, emerging everything by myself is simply a waste of time and electric power. Gentoo is a really great distribution, the best I ever have used, but waiting for emerging something can and should be avoided. This is not a complaint at all. I'm very graceful that I'm allowed to use something like Gentoo, but there are simply resons which make me thinging about using a binary based distribution from time to time. No flaming please, I'll not take part in it ;-) . Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system = many automakes
yes that is correct, it has been like that for ages. different packages need different versions. On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 07:46 -0800, Grant wrote: Why does emerge system want to install 6 different automake versions in different slots and 2 different autoconf versions? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple simultaneous emerges
Not usually, but you might run into problems, if for example a library changes via one ebuild while another is compiling against it. perhaps. I do it all the time, no probles so far. I am not sure what will happen if the same package is in both lists, ie if emerge X has Y as a dependency, and emerge Z has the same dependency. On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 17:22 -0800, Grant wrote: Is there anything wrong with multiple simultaneous emerges? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution leaving behind processes
evolution --force-shutdown On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 02:12 +0300, Ovidiu Bivolaru wrote: fire-eyes wrote: I'm running evolution-2.2.1.1. it keeps leaving behind many processes called /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-1.2 , even after exiting. Even after exiting X. Even after going into single user mode. I can't kill it with killall /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-1.2 or killall evolution-data-server-1.2, says it can't find those proccesses. How do i kill these off, better yet, how do i get evolution to kill them when exiting? This is annoying to say the least. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Try: /usr/libexec/evolution/2.1/killev Regards, Ovidiu -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 18:09 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: On the subject of etc-update, is there any way after an extensive update to work out which package is responsible for a config file update, such as: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14676 Mar 28 15:25 ._cfg_rstartd.real the easiest is to find the package that owned the originasl file name. The orig filename was rstartd.real, and assumiong it is in /etc: qpkg -f /etc/rstartd.real -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange errors when posting to gentoo-user
yes as I said yesterday, some f*wit has either got an overful mailbox, or cancelled his email accont, without unsubscribing. you are getting the bounce messages. On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 18:23 -0500, fire-eyes wrote: I'm getting this error when I post to gentoo-user, though my posts are making it. Anyone else get this? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:10:06 +0100 (Mon, 18:10 EST) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] list exact files in pkg before emerge
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 14:51 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm probably missing this in qpkg or emerge man pages, but I'd like to know how to discover the exact files that would be installed before actually doing. emerge -v -p pkg doesn't do that in the detail I'd like to see. There is no useful way of knowing every file that will be installed by package XX, because that varies depending on USE flags. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 09:17 +, Julien Cayzac wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Occasionally, but you'll get a warning that you need to do this when you sync. I think the last time this happened on x86 was when the 1.4 profile was deprecated last year. Even after syncing, I still don't get any make.defaults, so eix is now broken: # eix -u Updating eix database in /var/cache/eix Using portage cache: /usr/portage/metadata/cache/ varsreader.cc:309 Can't open file /etc/../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defaults No such file or directory what does ls -l /etc/make.profile say? try rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /etc/make.profile /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 11:33 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 27 March 2005 11:11, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 09:17 +, Julien Cayzac wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Occasionally, but you'll get a warning that you need to do this when you sync. I think the last time this happened on x86 was when the 1.4 profile was deprecated last year. Even after syncing, I still don't get any make.defaults, so eix is now broken: # eix -u Updating eix database in /var/cache/eix Using portage cache: /usr/portage/metadata/cache/ varsreader.cc:309 Can't open file /etc/../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defa ults No such file or directory what does ls -l /etc/make.profile say? try rm /etc/make.profile ln -s /etc/make.profile /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 That's bad advice Nick ;-) First: ln -s source link means you probably meant ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 /etc/make.profile woops yes I got my parameters round the wrong way there, sorry about that! Second: That won't work for Neil anyway, because there is no /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defaults err I never suggested that he switch to the 2005.0 profile in the first place, someone else did. I was just trying to make sure he had his link right (which, as you pointed out above) I did wrong! However on this second point I think you may be wrong. /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/parent contains .. and as I understand it this points to the directory above (i.e /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/ which contains a make.defaults. Although so does /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.3/parent, yet /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.3/ contains a make.defaults, so now I am confused! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there an xfce4 user in the house?
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 06:31 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm trying to run xfce4 genlop xfce4 reports only: * xfce-base/xfce4 But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it doesn't show up. because genlop xfce4 searches only for the package named xfce4, not xfce4-session or any name just containing xfce4. You might try genlop -l |grep xfce4 On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X. Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc. They don't appear in the taskbar pager. As a general X tip, hold down the Alt key and click-drag anywhere in the window - that way you do not need to be able to reach the title bar. Have you emerge xfce4-panel and does it appear? I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there? I have one, I am not sure where it came from. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there an xfce4 user in the house?
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 06:31 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm trying to run xfce4 genlop xfce4 reports only: * xfce-base/xfce4 But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it doesn't show up. On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X. Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc. They don't appear in the taskbar pager. I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there? FWIW, heres a list of my installed xfce4 stuff: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ qpkg -I|grep xfce4 xfce-base/libxfce4mcs * xfce-base/libxfce4util * xfce-base/xfce4 * xfce-base/xfce4-extras * xfce-base/xfce4-panel * xfce-base/xfce4-session * xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder * xfce-extra/xfce4-artwork * xfce-extra/xfce4-battery * xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman * xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph * xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme * xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox * xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd * xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer * xfce-extra/xfce4-netload * xfce-extra/xfce4-notes * xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop * xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload * xfce-extra/xfce4-systray * xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar * xfce-extra/xfce4-themes * xfce-extra/xfce4-toys * xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher * xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist * -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 11:38 -0800, Grant wrote:
I'm seeing crappy fonts in Firefox since emerging the latest xorg
version, and I am using the truetype-fonts USE flag. I emerged it
once without the bitmap-fonts USE flag, and the fonts looked really
nice, but I noticed a message during the emerge warning me to enable
bitmap-fonts. I re-emerged with bitmap-fonts enabled, and fonts have
looked crappy since. I tried commenting out different font paths in
xorg.conf to no avail. I did notice this in the emerge's output:
^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ...
/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line 1815:
16852 Segmentation fault
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdir)
${ROOT}/usr/bin/ttmkfdir -x 2 -e
${ROOT}/usr/share/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir -o ${x}/fonts.scale -d
${x}
Could that have anything to do with it?
OK OK heard you the first time!
- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 10:35 -0800, Grant wrote: A little while ago Neil turned me on to quickpkg. It sounds like a great way to protect yourself from the new package blues. Is anyone using it like that? What would be the best way to assure that your system always has a backup copy of your current version of a package available before emerging a new one? A more reliable method, assuming you have the drive space, is to add buildpkg to FEATURES in make.conf. Then emerge will automatically build a package when installing a package. It also means the package is verified, because ebuild builds it then installs from the package it just built, not the files in $PORTAGE_TMPDIR. If I'm understanding it correctly, FEATURES=buildpkg sounds less reliable for failed upgrade recovery. If you want to roll back to a previous version of a package, you're going to end up with what was originally installed, not what was working on your system right before the upgrade, right? wrong, as the package name contains the version information - eg xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.tbz2 not xorg-x11.tbz2 so unless you are constantly re-installing the same package with different use flags or cflags you should get a different binary pavckage name each time. Also, I tried to use quickpkg to protect me from any problems upgrading xorg and I ended up totally screwed. I quickpackaged my installed xorg, emerged the latest xorg, it wouldn't start, I tried to 'emerge -K xorg-x11', it said it was blocked by xorg-x11, I unmerged xorg-x11, it still said it was blocked, I tried to unmerge xorg-x11 again and it said it wasn't installed. It does sound like a portage problem instead of a quickpkg problem. I've finally gotten xorg working again thanks to a closed bug record, and let me tell you this: 1. don't emerge hardened xorg without dlloader 2. lynx doesn't work with gmail (predictable) - Grant Neil Bothwick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2)
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 12:37 -0800, Robert Persson wrote: I am getting tied in knots trying to emerge kde 3.4. I get the message sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2), even though emerge -C linux-headers gives me a message saying that linux-headers is not installed. I had this problem last night. emerge linux26-headers solved it. The thing is that I have some version or other of the 2.6.11-mm2 sources installed, so I shouldn't need either of these packages, should I? yes, don't ask me why, I asked once but didn't understand the replies, I just nodded sagely ... -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 19:01 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote: Harry Putnam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled: Being a new user, I'm wanting to get an overview of what an average gentoo user might do or need to do over a 6mnth period. I installed 3 days ago and am still getting things setup. Seems like an awfull lot of time has gone into emerging stuff I wanted installed. Now it turns out there is an update to portage and my system is telling me it needs to update portage and then update the already installed packages. 2 more huge chunks of time lost to compiling. An activity that seems so intensive that I have been reluctant to and doubted the advisability of installing or making configs during the compile process. So far I've spent a very lot of time waiting for something to finish emerging. It seems like things like Mozilla take an extrordinary long time. I'm wondering what a user might see over 6 mnths. How many portage updates in that amount of time. Howmany `update worlds'. Of the 5 machines I have running gentoo, I would say on average I run 'emerge -uDav world' from every other day to once a week. However, I sure don't sit around and watch it. Typically, I'll launch the emerge, then start reading email, news, etc, and writing code, etc while it works in the background on the same machine. I've never had an emerge stop me from getting work done. Hell, a lot of times I completely forget my CPU is pegged out running a merge, till I flip over to that desktop to look at something, then I see compiler messages flying by... Basically, it doesn't affect the UI at all. Tip for Harry: In /etc/make.conf set: PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 and the emergeing will go into the background and give way to other processes with higher priority. Also you don't need to update just because you can. If, for example, you stick to security updates, you will have far less compiling. However you may also miss something exciting on the leading edge. And yes mozilla takes a while. But if you really want to wait, try openoffice. As Jason says, just let it do the compiling in the background, and get on with using the computer. :-) hth, Cooper. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who is ndc38841 why is he getting my mail?
I'd say its pretty clear. Some f*wit has cancelled his email account but left himself subscribed. when his list mail bounces it comes back to the sender - you (or me for this message). On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 08:54 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote: Yup I got that message when I replied a couple of threads of mine! I wonder what's going on as well. On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:38:49 -0500, Ed Jabbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My posts here get posted, but I also have been receiving Delivery Status Notification (Failure) from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] with my post attached. Anybody else seeing this? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who is ndc38841 why is he getting my mail?
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:48 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: I'd say its pretty clear. Some f*wit has cancelled his email account but left himself subscribed. or possibly his mailbox is full. either way someone should remove him from the list. when his list mail bounces it comes back to the sender - you (or me for this message). -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I've tied my OS in a knot
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 20:10 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: On a recently intstalled 2004.3 from stage2. I just ran an --update portage as emerge was encouraging me to do. Somehow with that and other installations and removal I've done in the last 2 days. I've arrived at sort of catch 22. I'm told some packages are blocking an --update world. When I check it out I see: [blocks B ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 (is blocking x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1) Hey Harry, what command are you running when you get that message? What version of xorg-x11 do you have at present? It seems the answer may be this: Simply emerge xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 without the update flag, ie emerge xorg-x11 should do it. Then do the update thing. opengl-update is not installed. at least according to qpkg -I. And because when I saw the message I thought I could move on by uninstalling it. But the --update still fails. So, I thought I could just dodge it and update some of the other stuff, but other packages are also being blocked by this situation. As a very new user... I'm not sure what to do about this Any recommendations? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Scanner and permissions.
Locate the device that is being used as the scanner device. look at its permissions and ownership. make sure you are looking at the device, not a symlink to it. the standard approach is to give a group (eg scanner group) permissions to the device, then add allowed users ot that group. On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 01:34 -0300, Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello gentooers. I have a Plustek Parallel Port scanner working (using parport0), but only as root, how do I get it to work for normal users ? I've read that I should tweak some permissions, but I'm not sure which ones. - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://pupeno.com Reading Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCR4k9fW48a9PWGkURAmOSAJ91andM7eYyhQZNkLsM+bvlyy8dvwCfa5d/ EsmjUG2cRI6uskThVGztN5M= =4owY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing kernel boot sequence
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 03:30 -0500, Colin wrote: All right, I still can't boot the LiveCD even after discovering the doataraid parameter (didn't do anything) and switching my Linux disk from secondary master to primary slave, thinking that might do something. While booting Darik's Boot and Nuke (which is Linux-based), it told me that support for my drive controller (HPT372N) was experimental. Only one of my disks appeared, and it wasn't the one I needed erased. I could probably get some more answers if I could capture the nofb kernel's output as it booted. Is there any way to send output to a printer, or at least have it pause after each page of text so I can read it? (I've only been able to make out no known IDE timings, but that's not much help on its own.) google for the serial console howto, boot with a serial console and use a terminal program like minicom on another box to read (and save) the boot messages. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] binary server problems (`emerge -gK world`)
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 15:41 -0500, Jesse Guardiani wrote: I've been trying to update my servers with `emerge -gK world`, but I'm running into some really strange problems. The update doesn't seem to be getting everything. If I run `emerge --update --deep --pretend world` on a client after an update then I get about 50 additional items that need to be updated. If you want to acheive the same results, shouldn't you pass the --deep switch to the first command, like: emerge -gK --deep world (or emerge -gKD world) [snip] -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] one more su problem
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 11:51 -0500, A. Khattri wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, maxim wexler wrote: no, I used #useradd to create a user. So when it boots and stops at tux login: I can enter my username and then the user passwd and get the blue and yellow prompt ending in $. From there if I su I get the error. Useradd doesn't set the password - you must run passwd after adding the account. emerge superadduser its a lot more thorough than useradd -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] one more su problem
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 19:24 -0800, maxim wexler wrote: Can you log in as the user at all? Or are you trying only from su? only from su...don't know what this means. After boot I login as user or root. If, as user, I enter su, I get error, acct expired. Am I missing something, some gentoo-specific method here? When I ran slack or redhat I would su as user($), enter a password, and be presented with a root prompt(#) on the next line with all the privileges of root at my disposal. Are there any messages in /var/log/messages (or your equivalent) that might apply? almost positive, no. run it through strace and see what is happening. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Submitting an ebuild
you submit it to bugs.gentoo.org. That is the only, repeat only, way On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 21:30 -0800, Bill Six wrote: Hi, I just built an ebuild for wx4j (http://www.wx4j.org). I have never made one before. How do I submit it into the portage tree? Do I sign up for the gentoo-submissions list and do it that way? Thanks, Bill Six __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 12:22 -0800, Brian Jonas wrote: $20 plus shipping may be a better investment than many, many hours of your time. Especially considering how they are packaging this release: From http://store.gentoo.org/product_info.php?cPath=2products_id=49 For a faster install and less dependence on an Internet connection, choose one of the 2-CD builds. The second CD includes pre-built binary packages to get you up and running quickly. Whats so new about that? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 09:17 -0500, A. Khattri wrote: Unfortunately Portage on Mac doesn't have many packages packages in it yet (most stuff is masked) - its just too new. As a Mac (laptop) user myself I would love to see it mature. are you talking about portage on top of MacOS X (ppc-macos) or native linux (ppc)? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] one more su problem
please post each message obnce and once only - check your To: and cc: fields BEFORE you press send - please! On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 21:17 -0800, maxim wexler wrote: (the same message twice) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Custom Live CD - Catalyst or Livecd-ng
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:38:57 -0300 Raphael Melo wrote: Hi there. I want to build a livecd that runs apache and mysql on the boot process. I was wondering which of this tools should I use to accomplish this. Anybody ever tried something like this? I would like to hear hints and recommendations. I have done this using both livecd-ng and catalyst. catalyst replaces livecd-ng, forget livcd-ng. In my case it was to run distcc take a good look at the catalyst docs, join the gentoo-catalst mailing list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mbox vs maildir
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 22:58 -0700, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:49:23 +1300, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look it was me who raised the OT-ness of this thread and if you read back I kind of withdrew my complaint and apologised. There is a line somewhere, and the related problem in this case is how easy it is to get info on the pros and cons of mbox vs maildir by a very simple google search. Sorry to be a bugbear. I'm on a lot of other lists, and seldom do I read on those lists, go and search somewhere else, we're not interested, although I understand that is standard practice on Debian lists. I, for my part, am interested in all things Gentoo and by extension all things Linux, and as Brett stated, there's always the chance that someone on the list has a particular Gentoo insight into the supposedly OT question. Sometimes a Google search on common things such as mbox and maildir can throw out a lot of trivia, perhaps not even including a simple answer as to why one or the other without a tremendous amount of digging, whereas a real live body may have the desired simple answer, and we all (at least the portion of all who doesn't know the answer in advance) can benefit from the shortcut. In conclusion, my OT filter is not as finely tuned as yours. LOL good way of putting it! good thing we are not all the same, it would be boring! I will shut up now. Later, -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mbox vs maildir
On Mon, March 7, 2005 9:29 pm, Neil Bothwick said: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:01:21 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: What is the best way to convert an existing mbox setup to maildir? Reconfiguring the MTA/MDA looks straightforward, but what is the best way to convert existing mailboxes? http://www.google.com/search?q=convert+mbox+to+maildirsourceid=operanum=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 I'd already Googled and found various different alternatives. I wasn't asking for a search string to put into Google, I was asking for the best way to migrate a live system. In other words, I was hoping to get a reply from someone who had done the job themselves. Google only returns web pages containing your search string, it doesn't give recommendations on the best way to do a job. well for a start its way OT. it is not related to gentoo, it is a generic mailserver question, better suited to comp.mail.imap, if you can stomach usenet these days LOL. secondly you give us no idea of how many users? how many mailboxes? how many folders? how much data? do you have all the user passwords? does it have to be done on a live system with minimal disruption to users? or do you have all the time in the world to play? Have you tried any of the solutions you have found via google on a small set of data? You'll get a much better response on lists like this if you show you have done some research, tell us why you are still undecided, and what the sticking point is in making your decision. getting your favourite mail client to open both mail stores and drag and dropping works well for a few users if you have all their passwords (or don't mind resetting them), but wouldn't work for the administrators gmail or hotmail, or even a moderate number of users (believe me I have migrated 6 or 7 users from one imap server to another this way and it would be a PITA for too many more!) The chapter that is available online of O'Reilly's Managing IMAP (google it:-) discusses in some depths moving a reasonable sized installation from mbox to cyrus (IIRC), it may give you some inspiration. -- Neil Bothwick Reboot America. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mbox vs maildir
On Mon, March 7, 2005 10:24 pm, Neil Bothwick said: On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:07:06 +1300 (NZDT), Nick Rout wrote: well for a start its way OT. it is not related to gentoo, it is a generic mailserver question, better suited to comp.mail.imap, if you can stomach usenet these days LOL. It may be somewhat OT, but not way OT, it is on a Gentoo server after all. secondly you give us no idea of how many users? how many mailboxes? About half a dozen. how many folders? None, this is currently a POP3 system. Adding IMAP and folders is one of the reasons for wanting to switch. so the POP users have left their mail on the server? usually it gets deleted on download, although of course it is possible to leave it there. how much data? Around 600MB. do you have all the user passwords? Yes. does it have to be done on a live system with minimal disruption to users? or do you have all the time in the world to play? I can play on a test setup, but the transition has to be with minimal disruption. Have you tried any of the solutions you have found via google on a small set of data? Not yet. This is something I had been considering when the thread came up. It seemed a good opportunity to find out if someone else had already made a similar transition instead of having to do it all again. The chapter that is available online of O'Reilly's Managing IMAP (google it:-) discusses in some depths moving a reasonable sized installation from mbox to cyrus (IIRC), it may give you some inspiration. That's better, a response with some useful information, thank you :) hey sorry i dissed you over being potentially OT - I am sick of OT on this lsit, I get enough email each day as it is! However this was not the right thread to pick on as it is al hell of a lot more relevant than some of the threads. now u could do this: leave the pop server running set up the imap server suspend your mta so no more mail enters the system start the imap server from a client (another machine is fine but you want a decent connection so have it on the same lan as the server if possible) for each user do: set up an email client with two accounts, one pop and one imap, both on the same server drag and drop from the pop account to the imap account's inbox done; change the mta config to get mail delivered to the new mail store and start it up. turn off pop on the server. get everyone to put a new account in their email client to the imap server. I would only do this because I am too lazy to find/write/test a script to take the mbox store and put it into maildir format. the mb2md script that google will have found for you looks pretty comprehensive. it looks as if it doesn't destroy the mbox file, so you should be able keep the data until you are sure it has worked. good luck, and back up before you do it! -- Neil Bothwick And if you say No, I shall be forced to shoot you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mbox vs maildir
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 20:46 -0700, Collins Richey wrote: I agree 100%, Brett, but we are in the minority. Look it was me who raised the OT-ness of this thread and if you read back I kind of withdrew my complaint and apologised. There is a line somewhere, and the related problem in this case is how easy it is to get info on the pros and cons of mbox vs maildir by a very simple google search. As for the direction the thread took, ie how to *convert*, that too could have been asked in a different way - theres a big difference in the annoyance factor of the following two methods of posing a question: very annoying: how do i convert mbox to maildir? IMHO quite acceptable: I want to convert half a dozen pop3 mbox mailstores to maildir with minimal disruption. I have googled and found a number of scripts for this, but I am not sure what is the best approach, as they all seem to have pros and cons. A tool that is in portage or that people have tested on a gentoo system would be nice [It seems that] most on the lists are purists. Look this is a nice list, nice people, helpful community etc. But it does get a bit long winded and very OT sometimes. Honestly the question about mbox conversion to maildir would have been answered a lot more authoritatively on comp.mail.imap - sometimes its about using the best tool for the job. I see questions on here that get flailed about by people guessing and being semi-informed - whereas if the question had been asked in a more appropriate forum, the canonical answer would have been quickly available. Why, you can't even ask a question about catalyst (which should be a perfectly legitimate Gentoo subject) without being told: get thee to the catalyst list. well there is a specialised list for catalyst, it is mainly a dev tool and many devs do not appear to be on this list, and when someone has a similar problem to yours they will hopefully find the answer in that list's archive :-) Sigh. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] Skining Windows 98 or ME
On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 01:28 +, Ian K wrote: Oh, I know, but all of you guys are geniouses! LOL and some of us can even spel! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help finding files
frankly maxim, your question would have been a lot more understandable if you had explained the problem something like this: I am trying to get dial up networking going, and portage wants me to install the following packages, but I need to download these on another system/os before i can connect to the internet on this box. how can i find and download the exact files I need? The answer is then simple, emerge -pf package will tell you what files portage wants and a list of urls where they should be found. simply download those files and get them into /usr/portage/distfiles and you should be fine. portage will find them there and not attempt to download them Like Holly i was confused about why you would want to download the packages outside portage, and that led to a lot of futzing around. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 09:18:44 -0800 (PST) maxim wexler wrote: Those are dependencies to whatever it is you're trying to install. Portage will handle these for you. No need for any manual intervention. Catch 22. portage requires access to web. dial-up requires wvstreams and wvidial. No dial-up, no portage,n'est ce pas? -mw __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mbox vs maildir
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 00:58:52 + Neil Bothwick wrote: What is the best way to convert an existing mbox setup to maildir? Reconfiguring the MTA/MDA looks straightforward, but what is the best way to convert existing mailboxes? http://www.google.com/search?q=convert+mbox+to+maildirsourceid=operanum=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
