Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
I'm doing the same thing. I bought a barebones system from tigerdirect, and run Gentoo + imap + fetchmail + squirrelmail. My wife can check mail from her Windows XP box, I can check it from KMail, Evolution, Thunderbird, mutt, etc. There's a little setup involved, but worth the effort IMO. On Thursday 23 October 2003 12:48 am, Nate Duehr wrote: Sami Salonen wrote: > This was exactly what I was looking for - I would like to be able to see > my local folders in Windows too. Now I'm just wondering whether this > can be accomplished with KMail and any Windows mail client? There is another very sane option... switch to IMAP, keep all the mail on the server. :-) Then you have LOTS of choices for clients in any OS. If all you have is pop accounts, turn a box into a local IMAP server, and use fetchmail to pull stuff down and deliver it to the "server" machine. I switched to IMAP a number of years ago and haven't looked back, as long as the server's backed up, my mail's there and accessible from anywhere with squirrelmail (web) or an IMAP/TLS client. Nate, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
- Original Message - From: "Nate Duehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > I'm guessing the OP uses a regular ISP like most people. I'm pretty sure > > we can't get them to switch to IMAP for e-mail... :-) Yes, I understand > > that it's possible to setup a personal IMAP server that fetches your > > mail from your ISP and then access it via IMAP, but that's more work > > than many people want to get into. > > Figuring out which MTA's will read each other's files cross-platform and > behave correctly without damaging, losing or corrupting the mail seems > like a similar amount of work to me. :-) More, actually. > > Just offering choices. Fetchmail setup is about as simple as simple > gets and the OP may not have been aware of that option. Hall was right, my ISP offers POP as the only option. Setting up another computer to act only as a mail server seems a bit too much for me. I guess I'll try at least Mozilla and Opera, perhaps KMail & Eudora combo too. Thanks for all the help! -- Sami -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
Hall Stevenson wrote: I'm guessing the OP uses a regular ISP like most people. I'm pretty sure we can't get them to switch to IMAP for e-mail... :-) Yes, I understand that it's possible to setup a personal IMAP server that fetches your mail from your ISP and then access it via IMAP, but that's more work than many people want to get into. Figuring out which MTA's will read each other's files cross-platform and behave correctly without damaging, losing or corrupting the mail seems like a similar amount of work to me. :-) More, actually. Just offering choices. Fetchmail setup is about as simple as simple gets and the OP may not have been aware of that option. Nate, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
At 01:23 AM 10/23/2003, you wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 01:39, latin hypercube wrote: > With a similar set up, I have a VFAT/FAT32 partition for mail which > is accessible from both WinXP and Gentoo. I use Opera and its M2 > mail client as this means I have exactly the same functionality on > both operating systems and no worries about mailbox format. This was exactly what I was looking for - I would like to be able to see my local folders in Windows too. Now I'm just wondering whether this can be accomplished with KMail and any Windows mail client? I just checked Eudora's website and it appears they use MBOX format, which KMail also does (or can). There seems to be some gotchas with it, when mixing between Windows and Unix filesystems though. Here's the page that explains it: http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1333hq.html Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
At 01:48 AM 10/23/2003, you wrote: There is another very sane option... switch to IMAP, keep all the mail on the server. :-) I'm guessing the OP uses a regular ISP like most people. I'm pretty sure we can't get them to switch to IMAP for e-mail... :-) Yes, I understand that it's possible to setup a personal IMAP server that fetches your mail from your ISP and then access it via IMAP, but that's more work than many people want to get into. Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
Haven't found a way to do that with Kmail (which I agree is a comfortable mail client) -- kmail does allow you to store your mail in mbox or dir format, so maybe something is possible. On Thursday 23 Oct 2003 06:23 am, Sami Salonen wrote: > On Thursday 23 October 2003 01:39, latin hypercube wrote: > > With a similar set up, I have a VFAT/FAT32 partition for mail which > > is accessible from both WinXP and Gentoo. I use Opera and its M2 > > mail client as this means I have exactly the same functionality on > > both operating systems and no worries about mailbox format. > > This was exactly what I was looking for - I would like to be able to see > my local folders in Windows too. Now I'm just wondering whether this > can be accomplished with KMail and any Windows mail client? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
Also a good way to go. At www.clarkconnect.org you can find a download which will turn a spare PC into a gateway/web server/mail server and automatically provide you with IMAP, POP3 and Webmail (Squirrelmail) if you don't fancy doing the set up work yourself. On Thursday 23 Oct 2003 06:48 am, Nate Duehr wrote: > Sami Salonen wrote: > > This was exactly what I was looking for - I would like to be able to see > > my local folders in Windows too. Now I'm just wondering whether this > > can be accomplished with KMail and any Windows mail client? > > There is another very sane option... switch to IMAP, keep all the mail > on the server. :-) Then you have LOTS of choices for clients in any OS. > > If all you have is pop accounts, turn a box into a local IMAP server, > and use fetchmail to pull stuff down and deliver it to the "server" > machine. > > I switched to IMAP a number of years ago and haven't looked back, as > long as the server's backed up, my mail's there and accessible from > anywhere with squirrelmail (web) or an IMAP/TLS client. > > Nate, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
Sami Salonen wrote: This was exactly what I was looking for - I would like to be able to see my local folders in Windows too. Now I'm just wondering whether this can be accomplished with KMail and any Windows mail client? There is another very sane option... switch to IMAP, keep all the mail on the server. :-) Then you have LOTS of choices for clients in any OS. If all you have is pop accounts, turn a box into a local IMAP server, and use fetchmail to pull stuff down and deliver it to the "server" machine. I switched to IMAP a number of years ago and haven't looked back, as long as the server's backed up, my mail's there and accessible from anywhere with squirrelmail (web) or an IMAP/TLS client. Nate, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
On Thursday 23 October 2003 01:39, latin hypercube wrote: > With a similar set up, I have a VFAT/FAT32 partition for mail which > is accessible from both WinXP and Gentoo. I use Opera and its M2 > mail client as this means I have exactly the same functionality on > both operating systems and no worries about mailbox format. This was exactly what I was looking for - I would like to be able to see my local folders in Windows too. Now I'm just wondering whether this can be accomplished with KMail and any Windows mail client? -- Sami -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
Have your Outlook (or whatever you use in Windows) set to "leave a copy of message on the server". This way when you get back to gentoo the mail will be available to download with Kmail. -Original Message- From: Mark Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 October 2003 9:04 pm, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: > I have one email account set up in Kmail and Outlook Express. I have no > problems using the email account at all. If I have an important email, I > make sure to send it to my other email aliases on Kmail so I can retrieve > it later. > > Also, if you have SSH access to your emails, you can always check your > emails by using Secure Shell. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
With a similar set up, I have a VFAT/FAT32 partition for mail which is accessible from both WinXP and Gentoo. I use Opera and its M2 mail client as this means I have exactly the same functionality on both operating systems and no worries about mailbox format. On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 18:46 pm, Hall Stevenson wrote: > On Wednesday 22 October 2003 20:45, Sami Salonen wrote: > > I have a dual setup with Gentoo Linux and MS Win XP. My wife uses > > Win XP and sometimes while she's working I would like to be able to > > check my emails without having to reboot to Gentoo. > > > > In Gentoo I fetch my mails from my remote server with KMail & POP. > > I have a shared disk with Win and now I would like to know what > > kind of setup I need to have to be able to fetch my mails either > > from > > > > a) Gentoo > > b) MS Win > > > > and have the same local mailbox available in both systems? > > > > Can this be done with KMail and do I need to tell it to store > > mailbox in some specific format? What software should I use in MS > > Win? Have anyone else tried this? > > I do this also (using WinXP and Eudora at work to check personal mail) > and what I do is set the Windows mail client up to leave messages on > the POP server with the option to delete them from the server *if* I > delete them locally, i.e. empty my mail trash. This way, I delete 90% > of the messages I see daily (mailing lists, usually). The ones I > want, I usually just leave in my inbox. When I get home, I check mail > and those messages that I didn't delete get delivered here. > > Hall > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
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Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 20:45, Sami Salonen wrote: > I have a dual setup with Gentoo Linux and MS Win XP. My wife uses > Win XP and sometimes while she's working I would like to be able to > check my emails without having to reboot to Gentoo. > > In Gentoo I fetch my mails from my remote server with KMail & POP. > I have a shared disk with Win and now I would like to know what > kind of setup I need to have to be able to fetch my mails either > from > > a) Gentoo > b) MS Win > > and have the same local mailbox available in both systems? > > Can this be done with KMail and do I need to tell it to store > mailbox in some specific format? What software should I use in MS > Win? Have anyone else tried this? I do this also (using WinXP and Eudora at work to check personal mail) and what I do is set the Windows mail client up to leave messages on the POP server with the option to delete them from the server *if* I delete them locally, i.e. empty my mail trash. This way, I delete 90% of the messages I see daily (mailing lists, usually). The ones I want, I usually just leave in my inbox. When I get home, I check mail and those messages that I didn't delete get delivered here. Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 October 2003 9:04 pm, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: > I have one email account set up in Kmail and Outlook Express. I have no > problems using the email account at all. If I have an important email, I > make sure to send it to my other email aliases on Kmail so I can retrieve > it later. > > Also, if you have SSH access to your emails, you can always check your > emails by using Secure Shell. I just use imap :) - -- Mark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/lwNtzrmqzOOQUj8RArCqAJ4uuCQU6vMEsdf+b53rPzaZSqZu1QCcD9gT cpEfjHTawP1Q0CX29BqGTqk= =Nt63 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have one email account set up in Kmail and Outlook Express. I have no problems using the email account at all. If I have an important email, I make sure to send it to my other email aliases on Kmail so I can retrieve it later. Also, if you have SSH access to your emails, you can always check your emails by using Secure Shell. - -- Kevin Miller, Jr. Masters of Public Affairs, Comparative and International Affairs, Information Systems, and Nonprofit Management, School of Public and Environmental Affairs Indiana University - Bloomington http://www.amerasianworld.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 812-219-5047 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/lvD7P2TQUAjSykARApoCAKCQ5bVuziPU7wHMwggfXRKGsVyWdACglDss RJZkVhAIuEdhA1Lq1blwztU= =fi+A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
I guess, you will need to create a fat32 partition for data exchange and use Mozilla email client. Keep your emails on the fat32 partition. I am assuming that LINUX and windows both can write on that partition. let me know, if it works. Prabhat Sami Salonen wrote: >I have a dual setup with Gentoo Linux and MS Win XP. My wife uses Win XP >and sometimes while she's working I would like to be able to check my >emails without having to reboot to Gentoo. > >In Gentoo I fetch my mails from my remote server with KMail & POP. I >have a shared disk with Win and now I would like to know what kind of >setup I need to have to be able to fetch my mails either from > >a) Gentoo >b) MS Win > >and have the same local mailbox available in both systems? > >Can this be done with KMail and do I need to tell it to store mailbox in >some specific format? What software should I use in MS Win? Have anyone >else tried this? > > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Reading emails from both Gentoo Linux and MS Win
I have a dual setup with Gentoo Linux and MS Win XP. My wife uses Win XP and sometimes while she's working I would like to be able to check my emails without having to reboot to Gentoo. In Gentoo I fetch my mails from my remote server with KMail & POP. I have a shared disk with Win and now I would like to know what kind of setup I need to have to be able to fetch my mails either from a) Gentoo b) MS Win and have the same local mailbox available in both systems? Can this be done with KMail and do I need to tell it to store mailbox in some specific format? What software should I use in MS Win? Have anyone else tried this? -- Sami -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
