RE: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
> Matthew -- > > I think we would all like to hear how this works out. I for > one, do not > have a workable linux scanner at this time. My microtek is not > supported by linux/sane. So I am looking. > > If the Epson Perf 2400P works well I would really consider getting one > after the holidays are over. > I have one. It works quite well. gripes: the film adapter doesn't hold the film flat. I had to come up with my own kludge to correct this. It's a little slow, but I don't mind it too bad. I didn't exactly buy a professional grade scanner. I found the xsane negative color correction to be much more capable than that provided by epson-okawa. (In fairness, I ran out of patience pretty quickly with the epson-okawa software and just switched to xsane.) I'm no pro, but I found everything to work well, with slow but reasonable speed. just my nickel's worth. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
Matthew -- I think we would all like to hear how this works out. I for one, do not have a workable linux scanner at this time. My microtek is not supported by linux/sane. So I am looking. If the Epson Perf 2400P works well I would really consider getting one after the holidays are over. -rdg On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 19:53, Matthew Vaughn wrote: > I have to thank you all for the load of responses. :] > > I'm rather intrigued at the number of these that have suggested the > flatbed Epson Perfection models. Upon some research, I found that most > of this scanner series has complete SANE drivers, sports relatively high > resolutions, and comes at a very affordable price. For this reason, I'm > starting to seriously consider the Epson Perfection 2400P, with its > 2400x4800 DPI at 48 bits, the 35mm film-strip adapter thingy (whether > this is equitable to a dedicated film scanner or not is questionable, > but this flatbed does indeed deliver twice as many DPI as the film > scanner I had been considering previously), and its very low price: $129 > at Circuit City. Considering the praise these receive from Gentoo users > I've asked... > > Someone mentioned that 35mm film scanning becomes impractical below 2000 > DPI. I'm inclined to agree, but I'm happy to report that this scanner > shoots me above said threshold (not by much, though). I don't need an > absurdly high resolution, though, especially when you consider what I > intend to use this for. > > I am an amateur photographer. I also like to dabble in graphic design, > so I usually end up trying to integrate the two fields. The result is a > project I'm working on at the moment (it's, for once, coming along > nicely) which is an attempt to fuse a digital photographic portfolio > with writing and high-end graphics. I hope to treat it like a working > resume. The images contained there would certainly not be large, and > would serve a variety of functions ranging from becoming elements of the > design itself to simple galleries accompanied by text in some form. > We're not talking about massive detail here. This is a web presence; > size is limited. I don't intend to provide full-size copies. It's good > for me to have them on-hand, in either case. > > Digital photography, some argue, is the wave of the future. I frankly > don't care for it when it stands alone. The inherent detail of 35mm film > still far surpasses the images that can be produced by any digital > camera today and it suffices for my purposes to use a scanner as an > intermediary between the film and the computer. Aside from the web-work, > I intend to touch up the images for distribution in one form or another. > As I said, though, the primary function is to establish a portfolio. > > Thanks again, guys. :] -- It is vital to remember that information is not knowledge; that knowledge is not wisdom; and that wisdom is not foresight. - Arthur C Clarke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
I have to thank you all for the load of responses. :] I'm rather intrigued at the number of these that have suggested the flatbed Epson Perfection models. Upon some research, I found that most of this scanner series has complete SANE drivers, sports relatively high resolutions, and comes at a very affordable price. For this reason, I'm starting to seriously consider the Epson Perfection 2400P, with its 2400x4800 DPI at 48 bits, the 35mm film-strip adapter thingy (whether this is equitable to a dedicated film scanner or not is questionable, but this flatbed does indeed deliver twice as many DPI as the film scanner I had been considering previously), and its very low price: $129 at Circuit City. Considering the praise these receive from Gentoo users I've asked... Someone mentioned that 35mm film scanning becomes impractical below 2000 DPI. I'm inclined to agree, but I'm happy to report that this scanner shoots me above said threshold (not by much, though). I don't need an absurdly high resolution, though, especially when you consider what I intend to use this for. I am an amateur photographer. I also like to dabble in graphic design, so I usually end up trying to integrate the two fields. The result is a project I'm working on at the moment (it's, for once, coming along nicely) which is an attempt to fuse a digital photographic portfolio with writing and high-end graphics. I hope to treat it like a working resume. The images contained there would certainly not be large, and would serve a variety of functions ranging from becoming elements of the design itself to simple galleries accompanied by text in some form. We're not talking about massive detail here. This is a web presence; size is limited. I don't intend to provide full-size copies. It's good for me to have them on-hand, in either case. Digital photography, some argue, is the wave of the future. I frankly don't care for it when it stands alone. The inherent detail of 35mm film still far surpasses the images that can be produced by any digital camera today and it suffices for my purposes to use a scanner as an intermediary between the film and the computer. Aside from the web-work, I intend to touch up the images for distribution in one form or another. As I said, though, the primary function is to establish a portfolio. Thanks again, guys. :] -- Matthew Vaughn mvaughn (at) nethershaw (dot) com Writing and the Graphic Arts http://www.nethershaw.com GnuPG Key ID: 5EFDB776 (available from http://www.keyserver.net) Key fingerprint:4453 0AD2 39B2 62F6 6B41 F121 2A6F C139 5EFD B776 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:12:07PM -0600, rd wrote: > Matthew -- > > I don't want to bust your bubble... but scanning 35mm slides is not > something that should be done with <$300 scanners. No if you want any > kind of quality. It might be ok if you are just trying to build an > "index"/"thumb gallery" of your pictures. > > To truly scan a slide into the computer, all of the docs that I have > read say a minimum of 2000 dpi is required. This translates into a > special purpose film/slide scanner (Nikon is one) in the range of $1500 > to $1800. That's pretty much what I've heard. I have a cheaper ($250CND) HP that has the slide and negative scanner attachment for it (not a "real" negative scanner by any means) that works ok except for the tediousness of loading it that at high res can produce some nice scans, more than enough for a thumbnail gallery (scans up to 1200x1200 I think), but is still not professional grade. However, if what you're looking for is to get images into digital at a decent resolution to display online and do some photo manipulation, a set up like I have works fine, and the one you pointed to probably will be around the same quality as a "normal" scanner, just much easier to load and use :) Good luck though, please post what you end up doing, as I'd be interested in hearing what it's about. BTW, good to see I'm not the only person who prefers 35mm to digital (or at least I can replace my SLR with a digital rebel or *ist without needing to sell a kidney to pay for it :) alan -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net "There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games."-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 05:12, rd wrote: > To truly scan a slide into the computer, all of the docs that I have > read say a minimum of 2000 dpi is required. This translates into a > special purpose film/slide scanner (Nikon is one) in the range of $1500 > to $1800. Yes, and I would suppose that getting a scsi scanner is better than using an usb for this, if you have room for a scsi card it will not cost you a lot of dinero. And you could probably pick up and older version canon or nikon filmscanner for about 400$. I've used my canon canoscan 2700F for some years now with good results. But if you really want the best advice on scanners go to the SANE home page and/or join the sane mail list. -- Sigurd Stordal master in Petrology/mineralogy President of GOGS Opuscreator VS in DNM95 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
On Monday 08 December 2003 09:09 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > I don't have a USB scanner (just an old Microtek IISP) but the > linux newsgroup I hang out in seems to like Epson scanners as they > have pretty good support for Linux. The Epson 1660 was mentioned > as well as the 2400, and 3200 series. > > On Monday 08 December 2003 20:48, you wrote: > > Hey, guys. I need your help. I'm really into 35mm photography (I > > hate digital cameras), though I very much like keeping a digital > > portfolio of my pictures for online display. I decided that I > > would like to purchase a scanner for the sole purpose of > > converting my images to a digital format with the highest > > quality-to-price ratio possible. I've heard a lot of excellent > > things about 35mm film scanners (they directly scan the image > > negatives to produce extremely high-quality digital renditions), > > and am considering those to be higher on my list than flatbeds. > > Problem: It has to work with my Linux desktop. > > > > I'm asking the following questions of the Gentoo community: > > > > * What, based on your experience, and keeping in mind that > > I'm on a budget (not willing to spend over $300, with an eye on > > the ones below $200), are the best (working in Linux) quality USB > > scanners (film or flatbed) on the market? > > * Keeping Linux in mind, what would you recommend, and (if > > you've used it) what were your experiences in getting it to > > function (particularly with regard to drivers and userland > > tools)? > > > > This is what I am currently considering: > > http://www.scanace.com/en/product/1800u.php > > > > I believe it is TWAIN compatible, which should make things > > easier. If you feel so inclined, please weigh your responses > > against this. I thank the community in advance for any assistance > > provided. :] > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I'm running an Epson 1660 here. I had no problems getting it running at all. It has a built in transparancy adaptor, but I haven't tried it as yet. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
I have heard the same for Epson scanners except for the ones that end in '70. They are reported to hate linux. -- Alma Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I don't have a USB scanner (just an old Microtek IISP) but the linux newsgroup I hang out in seems to like Epson scanners as they have pretty good support for Linux. The Epson 1660 was mentioned as well as the 2400, and 3200 series. On Monday 08 December 2003 20:48, you wrote: Hey, guys. I need your help. I'm really into 35mm photography (I hate digital cameras), though I very much like keeping a digital portfolio of my pictures for online display. I decided that I would like to purchase a scanner for the sole purpose of converting my images to a digital format with the highest quality-to-price ratio possible. I've heard a lot of excellent things about 35mm film scanners (they directly scan the image negatives to produce extremely high-quality digital renditions), and am considering those to be higher on my list than flatbeds. Problem: It has to work with my Linux desktop. I'm asking the following questions of the Gentoo community: * What, based on your experience, and keeping in mind that I'm on a budget (not willing to spend over $300, with an eye on the ones below $200), are the best (working in Linux) quality USB scanners (film or flatbed) on the market? * Keeping Linux in mind, what would you recommend, and (if you've used it) what were your experiences in getting it to function (particularly with regard to drivers and userland tools)? This is what I am currently considering: http://www.scanace.com/en/product/1800u.php I believe it is TWAIN compatible, which should make things easier. If you feel so inclined, please weigh your responses against this. I thank the community in advance for any assistance provided. :] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
Matthew -- I don't want to bust your bubble... but scanning 35mm slides is not something that should be done with <$300 scanners. No if you want any kind of quality. It might be ok if you are just trying to build an "index"/"thumb gallery" of your pictures. To truly scan a slide into the computer, all of the docs that I have read say a minimum of 2000 dpi is required. This translates into a special purpose film/slide scanner (Nikon is one) in the range of $1500 to $1800. -rdg On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 19:48, Matthew Vaughn wrote: > Hey, guys. I need your help. I'm really into 35mm photography (I hate > digital cameras), though I very much like keeping a digital portfolio of > my pictures for online display. I decided that I would like to purchase > a scanner for the sole purpose of converting my images to a digital > format with the highest quality-to-price ratio possible. I've heard a > lot of excellent things about 35mm film scanners (they directly scan the > image negatives to produce extremely high-quality digital renditions), > and am considering those to be higher on my list than flatbeds. Problem: > It has to work with my Linux desktop. > > I'm asking the following questions of the Gentoo community: > > * What, based on your experience, and keeping in mind that I'm on a > budget (not willing to spend over $300, with an eye on the ones below > $200), are the best (working in Linux) quality USB scanners (film or > flatbed) on the market? > * Keeping Linux in mind, what would you recommend, and (if you've > used it) what were your experiences in getting it to function > (particularly with regard to drivers and userland tools)? > > This is what I am currently considering: > http://www.scanace.com/en/product/1800u.php > > I believe it is TWAIN compatible, which should make things easier. If > you feel so inclined, please weigh your responses against this. I thank > the community in advance for any assistance provided. :] -- It is vital to remember that information is not knowledge; that knowledge is not wisdom; and that wisdom is not foresight. - Arthur C Clarke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
I use a Epson Perfection 1660 Photo scanner under xsane It works great, bought it for like $89 bux -- TriKster Abacus irc.freenode.net #cllug #gentoo #linuxfriends irc.cotse.com #linux #linuxmall.us http://www.cllug.org http://www.trikster.homelinux.org icq# 266645328 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
I've got a super-cheapo Mustek 1200UB flatbed. That scanner is a PITA when it comes to getting it working in Windows2k/XP. No problem with Mandrake 9.0+, Redhat 7.3+, or Gentoo - works perfect. Isaac Matthew Vaughn wrote: Hey, guys. I need your help. I'm really into 35mm photography (I hate digital cameras), though I very much like keeping a digital portfolio of my pictures for online display. I decided that I would like to purchase a scanner for the sole purpose of converting my images to a digital format with the highest quality-to-price ratio possible. I've heard a lot of excellent things about 35mm film scanners (they directly scan the image negatives to produce extremely high-quality digital renditions), and am considering those to be higher on my list than flatbeds. Problem: It has to work with my Linux desktop. I'm asking the following questions of the Gentoo community: * What, based on your experience, and keeping in mind that I'm on a budget (not willing to spend over $300, with an eye on the ones below $200), are the best (working in Linux) quality USB scanners (film or flatbed) on the market? * Keeping Linux in mind, what would you recommend, and (if you've used it) what were your experiences in getting it to function (particularly with regard to drivers and userland tools)? This is what I am currently considering: http://www.scanace.com/en/product/1800u.php I believe it is TWAIN compatible, which should make things easier. If you feel so inclined, please weigh your responses against this. I thank the community in advance for any assistance provided. :] -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. Linux is the answer. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
My Epson Perfection 640U works fine for me in Gentoo. Dont't remember what is cost, but it wasn't much, <$100? I use a scanning program called "QuiteInsane". No ebuild, I compile it from CVS. http://quiteinsane.sourceforge.net/cvs.html AFAIK, TWAIN support is irrelevant in Linux. Check to see if a given scanner is supported by SANE: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html But I don't see the Epson 1800 model listed in either the stable or development branches. My guess is that it might work, but only in some kind of lower-resolution compatibility mode. On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:09:47 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have a USB scanner (just an old Microtek IISP) but the linux > newsgroup I hang out in seems to like Epson scanners as they have > pretty good support for Linux. The Epson 1660 was mentioned as well > as the 2400, and 3200 series. > > On Monday 08 December 2003 20:48, you wrote: > > Hey, guys. I need your help. I'm really into 35mm photography (I > > hate digital cameras), though I very much like keeping a digital > > portfolio of my pictures for online display. I decided that I would > > like to purchase a scanner for the sole purpose of converting my > > images to a digital format with the highest quality-to-price ratio > > possible. I've heard a lot of excellent things about 35mm film > > scanners (they directly scan the image negatives to produce > > extremely high-quality digital renditions), and am considering those > > to be higher on my list than flatbeds. Problem: It has to work with > > my Linux desktop. > > > > I'm asking the following questions of the Gentoo community: > > > > * What, based on your experience, and keeping in mind that I'm > > on a > > budget (not willing to spend over $300, with an eye on the ones > > below$200), are the best (working in Linux) quality USB scanners > > (film or flatbed) on the market? > > * Keeping Linux in mind, what would you recommend, and (if > > you've > > used it) what were your experiences in getting it to function > > (particularly with regard to drivers and userland tools)? > > > > This is what I am currently considering: > > http://www.scanace.com/en/product/1800u.php > > > > I believe it is TWAIN compatible, which should make things easier. > > If you feel so inclined, please weigh your responses against this. I > > thank the community in advance for any assistance provided. :] -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
I don't have a USB scanner (just an old Microtek IISP) but the linux newsgroup I hang out in seems to like Epson scanners as they have pretty good support for Linux. The Epson 1660 was mentioned as well as the 2400, and 3200 series. On Monday 08 December 2003 20:48, you wrote: > Hey, guys. I need your help. I'm really into 35mm photography (I hate > digital cameras), though I very much like keeping a digital portfolio of > my pictures for online display. I decided that I would like to purchase > a scanner for the sole purpose of converting my images to a digital > format with the highest quality-to-price ratio possible. I've heard a > lot of excellent things about 35mm film scanners (they directly scan the > image negatives to produce extremely high-quality digital renditions), > and am considering those to be higher on my list than flatbeds. Problem: > It has to work with my Linux desktop. > > I'm asking the following questions of the Gentoo community: > > * What, based on your experience, and keeping in mind that I'm on a > budget (not willing to spend over $300, with an eye on the ones below > $200), are the best (working in Linux) quality USB scanners (film or > flatbed) on the market? > * Keeping Linux in mind, what would you recommend, and (if you've > used it) what were your experiences in getting it to function > (particularly with regard to drivers and userland tools)? > > This is what I am currently considering: > http://www.scanace.com/en/product/1800u.php > > I believe it is TWAIN compatible, which should make things easier. If > you feel so inclined, please weigh your responses against this. I thank > the community in advance for any assistance provided. :] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
