Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] openoffice

2005-06-03 Thread Peter Kiraly
Ok. I have another story:

In the mean time, tried to emerge Abiword. It had 7 dependents. All
compiled nicely, only abiword failed. Some sort of seg.fault again. Then
tried again (this time only abiword left to be compile) and wow... Success!

If I'm right gcc is part of the toolchain. On my system, I have
gcc-3.4.1-r3. But there is a 3.4.3-r1 stable available. Shall I try to
emerge that? May it help?

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology

2005-06-03 Thread Khan
Hello,

I'm thinking of installing gentoo on server with Intel Extended Memory
64 Technology. Do I have to make something special in make.conf or to
use usual flags:

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
MAKEOPTS=-j5
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[gentoo-user] DVD drive not found on new AMD64 system

2005-06-03 Thread Michael Kjorling
If this is better asked on gentoo-amd64, please let me know.

I am new to Gentoo, but have used GNU/Linux as the only operating
system whenever I have a choice (on workstations and servers) since
early 2001. Even then, this has me really stumped. Maybe someone can
offer some insight...

Setup: AMD64 system built around a Canyon Tech CN-8N2ALSR4 motherboard
(Nvidia NF3 chipset). Two PATA IDE channels on board and in use: on
ide0, the system hard disk and a smaller one [which fails to be
detected, but that is not a big issue], both using Cable Select; on
ide1, a DVD+-R/RW drive as master (hdc) and a hard disk as slave
(hdd), the latter used for data storage. System installed as stage3
followed by lots of emerges, including `emerge --update system' about
12 hours ago.

The two disks that really matter show up just fine, and the one that
doesn't (an old 20 GB one) doesn't show up in the BIOS either. The DVD
drive, however, shows up during the POST but Linux won't recognize
that it's there. `dmesg' says, in part:

loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with 
idebus=xx
NFORCE3-250: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:08.0
NFORCE3-250: chipset revision 162
NFORCE3-250: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround.
NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround.
NFORCE3-250: :00:08.0 (rev a2) UDMA133 controller
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: HDS722525VLAT80, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !
hdd: ST3200822A, ATA DISK drive
Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed.
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Probing IDE interface ide2...
Probing IDE interface ide3...
Probing IDE interface ide4...
Probing IDE interface ide5...
hda: max request size: 1024KiB
hda: 488397168 sectors (250059 MB) w/7938KiB Cache, CHS=30401/255/63, 
UDMA(100)
hda: cache flushes supported
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3  p5 p6 p7 
hdd: max request size: 1024KiB
hdd: 390721968 sectors (200049 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=24321/255/63, 
UDMA(100)
hdd: cache flushes supported
 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0: p1
md: linear personality registered as nr 1

ide2 and ide3 would presumably be the two S-ATA connectors on the
motherboard (that's what they show up as in the BIOS) but those are
not relevant right now. I think the wait for ready failed before
probe on ide1 has something to do with this, but tried popping in a
CD which changed nothing. My uname -a output is:

Linux vuk 2.6.11-gentoo-r7 #1 Wed Jun 1 23:28:22 UTC 2005 x86_64 AMD
Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

and

$ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep IDECD
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
$

but still

$ ls -ld /dev/cd*
ls: /dev/cd*: No such file or directory
$ ls -ld /dev/hd*
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 32 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hda - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 33 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hda1 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 33 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hda2 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 33 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hda3 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 33 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hda5 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 33 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hda6 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 33 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hda7 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 32 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hdd - 
ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/disc
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 33 Jun  3 09:37 /dev/hdd1 - 
ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part1
$ 

The kernel command line is (and yes I know that my partitioning is
somewhat unusual: /boot is on hda5 and / on hda6):

# grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst 
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda6 
init=/linuxrc vga=0x318 video=vesafb:mtrr
# dmesg | grep command
Kernel command line: root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda6 init=/linuxrc 
vga=0x318 video=vesafb:mtrr pci=routeirq console=tty0
#

There are other oddities in the dmesg output too, like ALSA claiming
to not having found any sound card but sound working perfectly once I
turn up the volume a bit. I will deal with that later, however.
(Besides, it's more cosmetic than a real problem.)

The DVD 

Re: [gentoo-user] root block device unspecified error on boot

2005-06-03 Thread Roy Wright
in /boot/grub/grub.conf, did you change your kernel root?

kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1
 
HTH,
Roy

Gentoo Linux Mailing List Client wrote:

yeah I did that as well.
grub is not the problem as far as I can tell.  
I get the boot menu just fine.
my system stops when it tries to (re)mount the root partition.
It seems to think I didn't specify it.
I thought that's what fstab was for ???

any other suggestions?  

TIA,
Tomoki


On 6/2/05, Myk Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

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Have you directed the first-stage bootloader to find root on hda1?

from
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.0/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=10#doc_chap2

try 'grub-install /dev/hda'
or 'grub' and
grub root (hd0,0)  (Specify where your /boot partition resides)
grub setup (hd0)   (Install GRUB in the MBR)
grub quit  (Exit the GRUB shell)

- --myk

Gentoo Linux Mailing List Client wrote:


I had to move my linux partition from /dev/hda3 to /dev/hda1
I have altered /etc/fstab to reflect the move, along with /boot/grub/menu.lst
yet everytime I boot I still get the following error.

   The root block device is unspecified or not detected.
   Please specify a device or shell for a shell.
   BOOT () ::

at this point if I enter /dev/hda1 the system continues to boot fine.
what am I forgetting to fix?

TIA,
Tomoki Taniguchi
  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology

2005-06-03 Thread Andreas Fredriksson
On 6/3/05, Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm thinking of installing gentoo on server with Intel(r) Extended Memory
 64 Technology. Do I have to make something special in make.conf or to
 use usual flags:

IIRC these chips are x86_64 compatible, so unless you have any
specific reason to run them in 32-bit mode you'd be better off with
the amd64 live CD and using something sane like

CFLAGS=-O2 -m64

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Re: [gentoo-user] root block device unspecified error on boot

2005-06-03 Thread Myk Taylor
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ah, sounds similar to the discussion on
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-23080.html

short version: make sure the drivers for the hdd device and filesystem
are compiled into the kernel and doubld check your grub.conf kernel= line.

- --myk

Gentoo Linux Mailing List Client wrote:
 yeah I did that as well.
 grub is not the problem as far as I can tell.  
 I get the boot menu just fine.
 my system stops when it tries to (re)mount the root partition.
 It seems to think I didn't specify it.
 I thought that's what fstab was for ???
 
 Gentoo Linux Mailing List Client wrote:
 
I had to move my linux partition from /dev/hda3 to /dev/hda1
I have altered /etc/fstab to reflect the move, along with /boot/grub/menu.lst
yet everytime I boot I still get the following error.
 
   The root block device is unspecified or not detected.
   Please specify a device or shell for a shell.
   BOOT () ::
 
at this point if I enter /dev/hda1 the system continues to boot fine.
what am I forgetting to fix?
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[gentoo-user] 3 Disk server setup - recommendations?

2005-06-03 Thread Jakub Krajcovic

Hi guys,

it has been a long time since i was last subscribed to this list, (we 
were still running gentoo 1.4 then), so let me say hello to everyone, i 
love being in the gentoo community.


No, let me get to the point. In the near future, i am going to migrate 
one server for a local highschool onto another one. I am going to do a 
fresh install on the new server (an HP tc 2100) and i was thinking 
between FC3 and gentoo. But i am writing to this list, so you all know 
how i have decided :-). The new server has this problem: it's got one 
36GB SCSI disk, and two 250GB IDE disks. And i need to build a RAID 
with LVM on top of that.  (mirroring is a must)


The problem i am having is this: how do i work this out with 3 disks? 
Should i leave the SCSI disk out of raid/lvm, and install the system on 
it, with the user data going to the RAID on top of the 2 IDE disks? (i 
quite inclined to do this). Or, would it be OK to stick all of the 3 
disks into a RAID5?, (but i dont' really feel comfortable mixing ide 
and scsi disks into one cocktail...)


The ideal situation would be, if i got my hands on another scsi disk. 
That would be totally great, (i'd put the system on top of one mirror 
built of the 2 scsi disks, and the rest of the user data would go on 
top of the ide disks mirror) but i don't see the school producing a new 
scsi disk for me just like that.


If you have any opinions / recommendations concernign this issue, 
please let me know. I am really interested in the gentoo users opinion, 
(and myself being a libra, i hope i will able to make up my mind :-))


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-03 Thread Michael Ulm

maxim wexler wrote:


http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html


HTH,

Michael



Thanks for the tip. But before I try this(and this
goes for Richard F's suggestion) how do I safely get
rid of the grub I have? Or do I need to? The emerge -C
flag comes w/ dire warnings, The manual entry for -c
mentions slotted pkgs. And I see --depclean too, and
--prune.



If the problem is the one I had, you can simply test it
by creating the /boot/boot directory and then copy
the /boot/grub directory to /boot/boot. If that was
your problem, then grub would be able to find the
grub.conf file in /boot/boot/grub/ and everything should
work.

HTH,

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound not working with XDM

2005-06-03 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Bob Sanders wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:25:20 -0300
 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
rc.conf to use xdm and everything works ok, but I have no sound, I
tried command-line and X apps, and none has access to the alsa, oss or
esound drivers.
 
 It's probably pam.  Look as /dev/mixer, /dev/dsp, and the contents of
 /dev/sound and /dev/snd.  Who is the group owner?   If it's root,
 then the login isn't getting the permission through pam set correctly.
 
 Look through the forums, and there are some threads about editing
 pam permissions.

If it's ownership-related, I had a similar problem, solved it by
adding myself to the audio group, and changing the sound entry in
/etc/security/console.perms so that it reads:

console  0660 sound  0660 root.audio

(notice the 0660, default is 0600).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Reiser4, encryption

2005-06-03 Thread rob3
Richard Fish wrote:

rob3 wrote:

  

Hi guys,

I am very interested in encrypted directories and/or disks. Right now
I am using ext3.  Where can I find more info?  The docs page at
Gentoo?  




Probably, but someone else will have to point you to that.

For dm-crypt: http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/

For loop-AES, http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README

-Richard

  

Thank you!! Rob.
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[gentoo-user] Error when emerging dialog

2005-06-03 Thread Jules Colding
Hi,

I did:

emerge --update --deep --newuse world

after having changed my USE flags to:

USE=-qt -kde gtk2 gtkhtml gnome hal cdr unicode bzip2 doc emacs examples tetex

Everything went well until dialog was to be emerged. The output is
below. The error went away when ncurses was emerged manually.

Is a dependency missing somewhere?

Thanks,
  jules



 emerge (23 of 48) dev-util/dialog-1.0.20050206 to /
 Downloading 
 http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/distfiles/dialog_1.0-20050206.orig.tar.gz
--12:33:14--  
http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/distfiles/dialog_1.0-20050206.orig.tar.gz
   = `/usr/portage/distfiles/dialog_1.0-20050206.orig.tar.gz'
Resolving ftp.belnet.be... 193.190.198.20, 2001:6a8:3c80:0:203:baff:fe39:f931
Connecting to ftp.belnet.be[193.190.198.20]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 299,742 [application/x-gzip]

100%[=]
 299,742  684.74K/s

12:33:14 (683.84 KB/s) - 
`/usr/portage/distfiles/dialog_1.0-20050206.orig.tar.gz' saved [299,742/299,742]

 md5 files   ;-) dialog-1.0.20040731.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) dialog-1.0.20050206.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) ChangeLog
 md5 files   ;-) files/digest-dialog-1.0.20040731
 md5 files   ;-) files/digest-dialog-1.0.20050206
 md5 src_uri ;-) dialog_1.0-20050206.orig.tar.gz
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking dialog_1.0-20050206.orig.tar.gz to 
 /var/tmp/portage/dialog-1.0.20050206/work
 Source unpacked.
 * econf: updating dialog-1.0-20050206/config.guess with 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
 * econf: updating dialog-1.0-20050206/config.sub with 
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man 
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc 
--localstatedir=/var/lib --with-ncursesw
configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host.
If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be used.
checking for package version... 1.0
checking for package patch date... 20050206
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for executable suffix...
checking for object suffix... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -E
checking whether i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc needs -traditional... no
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib
checking for a BSD compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes
checking for makeflags variable...
checking if filesystem supports mixed-case filenames... yes
checking for ctags... no
checking for etags... no
checking if you want to see long compiling messages... yes
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
Configuring for linux-gnu
checking if this is really Intel compiler... no
checking if we must define _GNU_SOURCE... yes
checking version of i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 686
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for inline... inline
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for off_t... yes
checking for size_t... yes
checking for working alloca.h... yes
checking for alloca... yes
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
checking for getpagesize... yes
checking for working mmap... yes
checking whether we are using the GNU C Library 2.1 or newer... yes
checking for argz.h... yes
checking for limits.h... yes
checking for locale.h... yes
checking for nl_types.h... yes
checking for malloc.h... yes
checking for stddef.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking for string.h... (cached) yes
checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
checking for sys/param.h... yes
checking for feof_unlocked... yes
checking for fgets_unlocked... yes
checking for getcwd... yes
checking for getegid... yes
checking for geteuid... yes
checking for getgid... yes
checking for getuid... yes
checking for mempcpy... yes
checking for munmap... yes
checking for putenv... yes
checking for setenv... yes
checking for setlocale... yes
checking for stpcpy... yes
checking for strchr... yes
checking for strcasecmp... yes
checking for strdup... yes

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Printer setup tool

2005-06-03 Thread Urs Schuetz
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I re-emerged cups, got cupsd to hold, setup my deskjet 722c as
 parralel port 0, It said everything was good, but the test page
 will not print!

Suggestion:
Change in /etc/cupsd.conf:
LogLevel info 
to LogLevel debug
or even
to LogLevel debug2

Then restart cupsd, print, and read the logfiles again. I once
had a problem with wrong Ghostscript. I installed
app-text/ghostscript-afpl instead of app-text/ghostscript (the
ESP Ghostscript from www.cups.org).

urs

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[gentoo-user] Re: 3 Disk server setup - recommendations?

2005-06-03 Thread Remy Blank
Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 Should i leave the SCSI disk out of raid/lvm, and install the system on
 it, with the user data going to the RAID on top of the 2 IDE disks? (i
 quite inclined to do this). Or, would it be OK to stick all of the 3
 disks into a RAID5?, (but i dont' really feel comfortable mixing ide and
 scsi disks into one cocktail...)

The latter won't work, as RAID5 needs all partitions to be approximately
the same size. You could possibly work around that with LVM, but I have
no experience with that.

My advice: make several RAID1 devices out of the two 250GB disks (a pair
of partitions for each /, /boot, /home, swap, whatever), install the
system, data and swap on the mirror, and save the 36GB for data that is
not critical enough to require a RAID. It's not that much space anyway
(compared to the 250GB).

Remember to connect the IDE disks to separate channels (i.e. not on the
same cable). That way, you won't lose both elements of a mirror if one
channel of the IDE controller fails.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3 Disk server setup - recommendations?

2005-06-03 Thread Mike Williams
On Friday 03 June 2005 10:38, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 If you have any opinions / recommendations concernign this issue,
 please let me know. I am really interested in the gentoo users opinion,
 (and myself being a libra, i hope i will able to make up my mind :-))

I'd mirror, and LVM the 2 IDE disks for user data, and install the system on 
the SCSI. If you can ever imagine it necessary to alter partition sizes for 
the system, then LVM the SCSI disk too, but DON'T make it part of the same 
vg, it's unnecessary and can cause major headaches in the event of a failure 
or hardware moves.
Personally, I wouldn't LVM the SCSI disk as, if you can get your hands on 
another disk at some point, it's relatively straight forward (from an livecd) 
to convert your system partitions to RAID mirrors.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Error when emerging dialog

2005-06-03 Thread Remy Blank
Jules Colding wrote:
 USE=-qt -kde gtk2 gtkhtml gnome hal cdr unicode bzip2 doc emacs examples 
 tetex
 
 Everything went well until dialog was to be emerged. The output is
 below. The error went away when ncurses was emerged manually.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67524
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88161

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Error when emerging dialog

2005-06-03 Thread Jules Colding
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 13:49 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
 Jules Colding wrote:
  USE=-qt -kde gtk2 gtkhtml gnome hal cdr unicode bzip2 doc emacs examples 
  tetex
  
  Everything went well until dialog was to be emerged. The output is
  below. The error went away when ncurses was emerged manually.
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67524
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88161

I thought that ncurses would be automatically rebuild due to the --
newuse statement in my emerge command?

Regards,
  jules

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound not working with XDM

2005-06-03 Thread jakub . krajcovic
I definitely think it's ownership related. The problem is somewhere 
between pam and udev, but i think it's more likely pam. I experienced a 
very similar (if not the same) issue some time ago. When you start xdm, 
it starts as root, and somehow, something sets very restrictive (600) 
permissions on the sound devices.
So, as pointed out before, play around with pam and fix the permissions 
(i think that there is a howto for this in the forums).


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On jún 2, 2005, at 12:27, Raffaele BELARDI wrote:


If it's ownership-related, I had a similar problem, solved it by
adding myself to the audio group, and changing the sound entry in
/etc/security/console.perms so that it reads:

console  0660 sound  0660 root.audio

(notice the 0660, default is 0600).



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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound not working with XDM

2005-06-03 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Yeah, that solved the problem, it seems that the mask 600 appear more
secure to xdm than 660 :) that and group permissions and it was all
working, thanks to all of you!!!

On 6/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I definitely think it's ownership related. The problem is somewhere
 between pam and udev, but i think it's more likely pam. I experienced a
 very similar (if not the same) issue some time ago. When you start xdm,
 it starts as root, and somehow, something sets very restrictive (600)
 permissions on the sound devices.
 So, as pointed out before, play around with pam and fix the permissions
 (i think that there is a howto for this in the forums).
 
 jakub
 
 
 gmail - the best way to share your privacy with others
 On jún 2, 2005, at 12:27, Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
 
  If it's ownership-related, I had a similar problem, solved it by
  adding myself to the audio group, and changing the sound entry in
  /etc/security/console.perms so that it reads:
 
  console  0660 sound  0660 root.audio
 
  (notice the 0660, default is 0600).
 
 
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[gentoo-user] linuxrc pass command line to kernel

2005-06-03 Thread Frieder Bürzele

Hi,

I have one question. Can I change the passed boot-commandline within an
initrd-image?
Is it possible to tell the kernel that it read the changed commandline?

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[gentoo-user] More on Libretto/PCMCIA effort

2005-06-03 Thread Digby Tarvin
A. GENKERNEL
Well, I have now built a genkernal system to see if that helped, and
it didn't seem to. It got noticably less far than my manually configured
kernel, in that it did not recognise any PCMCIA slots at all :-(

It also produced a suspicious error message during boot:
/sbin/rc: line 271: /sbin/devfsd no such file or directory

I followed the instructions in the handbook, with the following exceptions:
1. Where it says to copy the config file from /proc/config.gz, I had to
grab one using an older install CD in another system (r1 rather than r3
kernel), as I was bootstrapping from a different Linux distro on this
notebook as described earlier.
2. I could not do the hotplug/coldplug emerge as these seemed to need
to download from from the net - and without PCMCIA I have not network
interface yet.

The only other thing that looked notable about the boot messages were a
number of attempts to load modules which did not exist. But I assume
genkernel knew what it was doing when deciding which modules to make.

B. MANUAL CONFIG

Going back to the more successful manaully configured kernel, it does
detect the card bridge and 3Com card.

a cat of /proc/bus/pccard/drivers gives:
3c589_cs1 1
serial_cs   1 1

As per Jerry's suggestion, the output of 'cardctl ident' is

Socket 0:
  product info: 3Com Corporation, 3C562D/3C563D, EtherLink III, 
LAN+Modem PC Card
  manfid: 0x0101, 0x0562
  function: 6 (network)
Socket 1:
  no product info available

ifconfig shows packets sent, but nothing received. My suspicion at this
stage is that there is some problem with the interrupts. I wonder what
changes have occured given that this bridge now seems to be supported
in a different driver to the one which I was using on 2.4/suse?

Here are what I think are the relevent lines from dmesg. Can anyone
diagnose what they mean, or suggest something I should try? I have
tried 'pci=routeirq' and it made no difference...

   ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
   ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
   ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
   ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
   ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
   
   PCI: setting IRQ 13 as level-triggered
   
   Linux Kernel Card Services
 options:  [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
   
   PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
   ** PCI interrupts are no longer routed automatically.  If this
   ** causes a device to stop working, it is probably because the
   ** driver failed to call pci_enable_device().  As a temporary
   ** workaround, the pci=routeirq argument restores the old
   ** behavior.  If this argument makes the device work again,
   ** please email the output of lspci to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ** so I can fix the driver.
   
   serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
   serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
   Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
   ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
   pnp: the driver 'serial' has been registered
   pnp: match found with the PnP device '00:0a' and the driver 'serial'
   ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
   
   parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP(,...)]
   lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
   
   ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
   
   ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
   PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
   ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:13.0[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
   Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:13.0 [1179:0001]
   Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0638, PCI irq 11
   Socket status: 3011
   PCI: Enabling device :00:13.1 ( - 0002)
   ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11
   ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:13.1[B] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
   Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:13.1 [1179:0001]
   Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0638, PCI irq 11
   Socket status: 3007
   
   cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: clean.
   cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: clean.
   cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x8ff: clean.
   cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x8ff: clean.
   cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x4ff: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x330-0x337 0x370-0x37f 
0x388-0x38f 0x480-0x48f 0x4d0-0x4d7
   cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x4ff: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x330-0x337 0x370-0x37f 
0x388-0x38f 0x480-0x48f 0x4d0-0x4d7
   cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
   cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
   cs: memory probe 0xa000-0xa0ff: clean.
   
   eth0: 3Com 3c562, io 0x300, irq 3, hw_addr 00:60:97:FE:BE:6C
 8K FIFO split 5:3 Rx:Tx, auto xcvr
   ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
   eth0: flipped to 10baseT
   irq 11: nobody cared!
[c012c952] __report_bad_irq+0x22/0x80
[c012ca20] note_interrupt+0x50/0x80
[c012c600] __do_IRQ+0xd0/0xe0
[c01043e1] do_IRQ+0x41/0x60
===
[c0102f3a] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
[c0117a51] __do_softirq+0x31/0x90
[c01044c9] 

Re: [gentoo-user] bandwidthd alternative

2005-06-03 Thread Vincent A. Primavera

Hello,
   This is great stuff.  Does anybody have any suggestions as to 
applications for monitoring web traffic(browsing) etc?

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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] bandwidthd alternative


ntop, iptraf.  Both good programs.  ntop is curses-based, iptraf is
web-based.  There was a thread a few weeks ago.  See:
http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg04463.html
where I originally saw these programs mentioned.

On 5/31/05, Miguel Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, im looking for a bandwidth monitor aplication, im using mrtg, but it
only shows total values, i need a more granular option, that show me on
a per ip basis, what ports, total bandwidth by ip, etc, i found
banwidthd (http://bandwidthd.sourceforge.net/)

Do you know any other alternative?

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Re: [gentoo-user] svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga Is svgalib_helper module loaded?

2005-06-03 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Sullivan schreef:
 I found a tutorial for svgalib this morning.  I've always been
 fascinated by graphics programming, but never found a tutorial that was
 simple enough for me to follow in the beginning.  I liked this tutorial.
 It provided source code for a simple c program that just plots a pixel
 to the screen.  I copied the code into a file and compiled it.  It all
 compiled fine.  When I tried to run the program, I got this:  
 
 svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga
 Is svgalib_helper module loaded?
 
 
 Is this something I can fix, or yet another situation in my quest for
 graphics programming knowledge where I'm just out of luck?
 

Ummm... the error message asked a pretty simple-seeming question:

Is svgalib_helper module loaded?

So as far as that goes, it does seem to be something you can check, and
--if the answer turns out to be no-- to fix, by loading the module
(it's a kernel module created during the install of svgalib, and if you
haven't rebooted since you installed svgalib, it won't be loaded).

If the module fails to load, what is the error after modprobe
svgalib_helper?

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga Is svgalib_helper module loaded?

2005-06-03 Thread Michael Sullivan
I modprobed svglib_helper and put it into
my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file.  When I tried to run the
tutorial program again I got this:

Not running in a graphics capable console,
and unable to find one.
Using SAVAGE driver, 12288KB. Chipset: ProSavage
Not running in a graphics capable console,
and unable to find one.
svgalib 1.9.19
svgalib: Failed to initialize mouse.
Not running in a graphics capable console,
and unable to find one.

and put me back at a terminal prompt.  How do I fix this one?

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 16:44 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Michael Sullivan schreef:
  I found a tutorial for svgalib this morning.  I've always been
  fascinated by graphics programming, but never found a tutorial that was
  simple enough for me to follow in the beginning.  I liked this tutorial.
  It provided source code for a simple c program that just plots a pixel
  to the screen.  I copied the code into a file and compiled it.  It all
  compiled fine.  When I tried to run the program, I got this:  
  
  svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga
  Is svgalib_helper module loaded?
  
  
  Is this something I can fix, or yet another situation in my quest for
  graphics programming knowledge where I'm just out of luck?
  
 
 Ummm... the error message asked a pretty simple-seeming question:
 
 Is svgalib_helper module loaded?
 
 So as far as that goes, it does seem to be something you can check, and
 --if the answer turns out to be no-- to fix, by loading the module
 (it's a kernel module created during the install of svgalib, and if you
 haven't rebooted since you installed svgalib, it won't be loaded).
 
 If the module fails to load, what is the error after modprobe
 svgalib_helper?
 
 HTH,
 Holly

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does a stage 2 or 3 install eventually catch up with stage 1?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Place
Check out the forums for info on this topic.  My last installed was
based off this thread:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-319349.html (info thread)
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-314985-highlight-emwrap.html
(support thread)

The main goals of this install method are:
1. Eliminate the circular dependencies caused by a stage1 install.
2. Eliminate the extra packages installed by a stage1/2, which are not
listed in /var/db/pkg.
3. To create a pure GCC 3.4 built toolchain/system with platform
specific optimizations, all from a stage3 tarball. (Effectively a
stage1 install built from a stage3 tarball)
4. Oh yeah, NPTL.

This is a bit OT for your case, I understand that you are trying to
get away from a stage1 to save time but the method above is well worth
the work.
You could always script part of it and let it run during the weekend. ; ) 
What you could do is build a system like this, then create binaries of
everything you install (or want to keep).  Next time you want to redo
your system all you have to do is partition and copy over whatever
binaries you want.  If you include the base system you will still have
a  completely optimized box, but in a fraction of the time.
If nothing else, it's an interesting read.

Also, if you would like to take everything one step further:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-highlight-emwrap.html

There is some interesting work being done in this thread related to
properly building a toolchain.

Have fun.

-Matt-


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 On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 20:20, Mark Shields wrote:
  That's an interesting idea, Phil.  Perhaps a livecd that works like
  Knoppix, where you can choose to install it to your system?
 
 Actually, I did use a Knoppix CD to install both Gentoo and Debian SID
 on my 5 boot box (Windows XP Pro, Fedora Core 1  3, Debian SID and
 Gentoo), as I have DSL.  I can install within X if I wish and use my
 /home partition if I need to turn off the box for some reason.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga Is svgalib_helper module loaded?

2005-06-03 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Sullivan schreef:
 On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 16:44 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 
Michael Sullivan schreef:

I found a tutorial for svgalib this morning.  I've always been
fascinated by graphics programming, but never found a tutorial that was
simple enough for me to follow in the beginning.  I liked this tutorial.
It provided source code for a simple c program that just plots a pixel
to the screen.  I copied the code into a file and compiled it.  It all
compiled fine.  When I tried to run the program, I got this:  

svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga
Is svgalib_helper module loaded?


Is this something I can fix, or yet another situation in my quest for
graphics programming knowledge where I'm just out of luck?


Ummm... the error message asked a pretty simple-seeming question:

Is svgalib_helper module loaded?

So as far as that goes, it does seem to be something you can check, and
--if the answer turns out to be no-- to fix, by loading the module
(it's a kernel module created during the install of svgalib, and if you
haven't rebooted since you installed svgalib, it won't be loaded).

If the module fails to load, what is the error after modprobe
svgalib_helper?

HTH,
Holly
 
 I modprobed svglib_helper and put it into
 my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file.  When I tried to run the
 tutorial program again I got this:
 
 Not running in a graphics capable console,
 and unable to find one.
 Using SAVAGE driver, 12288KB. Chipset: ProSavage
 Not running in a graphics capable console,
 and unable to find one.
 svgalib 1.9.19
 svgalib: Failed to initialize mouse.
 Not running in a graphics capable console,
 and unable to find one.
 
 and put me back at a terminal prompt.  How do I fix this one?
 
Let's see

not running in a graphics-capable console would imply that neither X
nor the framebuffer (I'm kinda leaning towards the framebuffer) is
running, and/or that svgalib requires some form of 3D hardware
acceleration support which is not installed. I don't know which is the
case (I don't know your setup-- i.e., how you're running this program--
or what requirements svgalib has), but presumably your interest in this
subject (or the tutorial you're following) should give some kind of a
clue as to which area of your graphics subsystem needs to be looked at.


As to the mouse thing, well, a Google search for svgalib_helper links to
this page, SM 5 BSZ - Installing svgalib-1.9.19 under different
distributions at http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/install/distrib2.htm .

Now, naturally, Gentoo is not included, but it does say this for FC3:

To get the mouse going, add a line mdev /dev/input/mice in the
/etc/vga/libvga.config file.

So I would check to see if there is a libvga.config file on the system,
and see if that line is present, and add it if not-- it just might work,
although it's also possible that this is related to your original issue
with the lack of a graphics-related console insofar as the 'original'
basic graphics setup would normally include the mouse, so if the
graphics were fixed, the mouse issue might be as well.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-03 Thread maxim wexler
Oops,

What I was trying to say before I hit the wrong key, I
paused the boot screen on the non-booting gentoo box
and took a look at the HD line. It says the LBA mode
is off. 32 bit mode is off. DMA mode is UDMA6, PIO
mode is 4

FWIW

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD drive not found on new AMD64 system

2005-06-03 Thread Zac Medico


--- Michael Kjorling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly.
snip
   ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !

Hi Michael,

Does your DVD drive still work with the livecd?  If so
you probably don't need to replace the drive.  I ran a
search for those messages from your dmesg:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=%22BIOS+didn%27t+set+cable+bits+correctly.+Enabling+workaround.%22+%22Wait+for+ready+failed+before+probe+%21%22

This result looks similar to your issue:

http://kerneltrap.org/node/3971

In that case the problem was the ata_piix driver.  Did
you compile the ata_piix driver?

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Re: [gentoo-user] More on Libretto/PCMCIA effort

2005-06-03 Thread Digby Tarvin
Mulling over this a little more, I think what these messages tell me
is that the driver is expecting interrupts on level 3 :
eth0: 3Com 3c562, io 0x300, irq 3, hw_addr 00:60:97:FE:BE:6C
but they are actually occuring on level 11:
irq 11: nobody cared!
Disabling IRQ #11

So the next question is - how does the PCMCIA bridge driver, which seems
to know it is using IRQ 11:
Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:13.0 [1179:0001]
Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0638, PCI irq 11
communicate the interrupt level to the 3c562 driver, and why do they
seem to be disagreeing?

Any suggestions? 

Regards,
DigbyT

On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 03:18:14PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote:
 Here are what I think are the relevent lines from dmesg. Can anyone
 diagnose what they mean, or suggest something I should try? I have
 tried 'pci=routeirq' and it made no difference...
 
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)

PCI: setting IRQ 13 as level-triggered

Linux Kernel Card Services
  options:  [pci] [cardbus] [pm]

PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
** PCI interrupts are no longer routed automatically.  If this
** causes a device to stop working, it is probably because the
** driver failed to call pci_enable_device().  As a temporary
** workaround, the pci=routeirq argument restores the old
** behavior.  If this argument makes the device work again,
** please email the output of lspci to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
** so I can fix the driver.

serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
pnp: the driver 'serial' has been registered
pnp: match found with the PnP device '00:0a' and the driver 'serial'
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP(,...)]
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).

ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14

ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:13.0[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:13.0 [1179:0001]
Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0638, PCI irq 11
Socket status: 3011
PCI: Enabling device :00:13.1 ( - 0002)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:13.1[B] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
Yenta: CardBus bridge found at :00:13.1 [1179:0001]
Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0638, PCI irq 11
Socket status: 3007

cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x8ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x8ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x4ff: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x330-0x337 
 0x370-0x37f 0x388-0x38f 0x480-0x48f 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x4ff: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x330-0x337 
 0x370-0x37f 0x388-0x38f 0x480-0x48f 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
cs: memory probe 0xa000-0xa0ff: clean.

eth0: 3Com 3c562, io 0x300, irq 3, hw_addr 00:60:97:FE:BE:6C
  8K FIFO split 5:3 Rx:Tx, auto xcvr
ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
eth0: flipped to 10baseT
irq 11: nobody cared!
 [c012c952] __report_bad_irq+0x22/0x80
 [c012ca20] note_interrupt+0x50/0x80
 [c012c600] __do_IRQ+0xd0/0xe0
 [c01043e1] do_IRQ+0x41/0x60
 ===
 [c0102f3a] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
 [c0117a51] __do_softirq+0x31/0x90
 [c01044c9] do_softirq+0x39/0x40
 ===
 [c01043e8] do_IRQ+0x48/0x60
 [c0102f3a] common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
 [c0101030] default_idle+0x0/0x30
 [c0101054] default_idle+0x24/0x30
 [c01010e1] cpu_idle+0x41/0x60
 [c04996eb] start_kernel+0x13b/0x160
handlers:
[c02aec10] (yenta_interrupt+0x0/0x30)
[c02aec10] (yenta_interrupt+0x0/0x30)
Disabling IRQ #11
eth0: interrupt(s) dropped!
 
 On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 11:29:47PM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:
  
  On my end... with 2.6.11, /proc/bus/pccard has /drivers which at the moment 
  says ide-cs due to the flashcard/pcmcia adapter I've got installed.
  
  Have you modprobed cs? How about a simple cardctl ident?
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Re: [gentoo-user] svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga Is svgalib_helper module loaded?

2005-06-03 Thread Zac Medico


--- Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I found a tutorial for svgalib this morning.  I've
 always been
 fascinated by graphics programming, but never found
 a tutorial that was
 simple enough for me to follow in the beginning.  I
 liked this tutorial.

Hi Michael,

Sounds like fun.  I've heard that svga is going to be
dropped from the default 2005.1 profile.  I'm not sure
how popuar it is these days.  You may want to consider
alternatives such as sdl or directfb.  I'm not
experienced with any of these but they might be worth
exploring.

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Re: [gentoo-user] bandwidthd alternative

2005-06-03 Thread Mark Shields
Ethereal/Etherape?  You can view the raw information that is sent from
remote hosts on port 80, and information sent to servers at port 80.

On 6/3/05, Vincent A. Primavera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 This is great stuff.  Does anybody have any suggestions as to
 applications for monitoring web traffic(browsing) etc?
 --
 Thank you,
 
 Vincent A. Primavera.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Shields
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] bandwidthd alternative
 
 
 ntop, iptraf.  Both good programs.  ntop is curses-based, iptraf is
 web-based.  There was a thread a few weeks ago.  See:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg04463.html
 where I originally saw these programs mentioned.
 
 On 5/31/05, Miguel Miranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, im looking for a bandwidth monitor aplication, im using mrtg, but it
  only shows total values, i need a more granular option, that show me on
  a per ip basis, what ports, total bandwidth by ip, etc, i found
  banwidthd (http://bandwidthd.sourceforge.net/)
 
  Do you know any other alternative?
 
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[gentoo-user] Your friendly Bugday Reminder

2005-06-03 Thread Bryan Oestergaard
Hi all!

Just a quick reminder that saturday 4 sees another gathering of users
and developers in #gentoo-bugs on irc.freenode.net - a monthly gathering
affectionally known as Bugday :)

Hope you'll all have lots of fun.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] linuxrc pass command line to kernel

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Fish
Frieder Bürzele wrote:

Hi,

I have one question. Can I change the passed boot-commandline within an
initrd-image?
Is it possible to tell the kernel that it read the changed commandline?

  


Not AFAIK, because by the time initrd gets control, the kernel is
already booted and all internal drivers have been initialized.  You do
have access to /sys and /proc, so anything that can be modified by
sysctl is available for you to modify.  But major flags like nosmp,
acpi=, noapic, and so on are fixed at this point.

I suppose you could mount the /boot filesystem, update the grub.conf
file (assuming you are using grub), and reboot the system from an
initrd.  That would be the 'brute-force' approach.

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[gentoo-user] gnome and aterm

2005-06-03 Thread LostSon
Hey 
 I am trying to use aterm with gnome but aterm does not seem to read
my .Xdefaults when using gnome. It works in openbox3 and fluxbox though.
I have seen in the forums that you should make a link or new file
like .Xdefaults-hostname but this hasnt worked either. What am i missing
gnome-terminal is a little heavy and i would rather use Aterm, thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD drive not found on new AMD64 system

2005-06-03 Thread Daniel da Veiga
That's why I decided to use genkernel and autoconfig, but even then I
had to take a full list of my drives and all hardware config and tweak
the kernel using menuconfig. Maybe if you take a look at yours you'll
find out that you're missing modules for your specific needs.

On 6/3/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 --- Michael Kjorling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly.
 snip
ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 Does your DVD drive still work with the livecd?  If so
 you probably don't need to replace the drive.  I ran a
 search for those messages from your dmesg:
 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=%22BIOS+didn%27t+set+cable+bits+correctly.+Enabling+workaround.%22+%22Wait+for+ready+failed+before+probe+%21%22
 
 This result looks similar to your issue:
 
 http://kerneltrap.org/node/3971
 
 In that case the problem was the ata_piix driver.  Did
 you compile the ata_piix driver?
 
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[gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Simon Maynard
Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a
better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all
refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas
on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates.
He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using
Gentoo, by default.

Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] webmin, can't access from external host with default configuration

2005-06-03 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Fri, June 3, 2005 5:55 pm, Claudinei Matos said:

 I've installed webmin on a server and I'm trying to get access there
 but always when I try I get Login failed. Please try again. using
 root user.
 I'm not on the same network and I didn't have a gui installed on the
 server to get local access via browser. I've even tryed to use links2
 but there's no support for cookies ??

AFAIR, Webmin only permits localhost access by default. You can change
this by editing the config files, or you can use elinks over SSH.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Ognjen Bezanov
Simon Maynard wrote:

Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a
better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all
refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas
on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates.
He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using
Gentoo, by default.

Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere?

Thanks,

Simon

  

I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not
refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it
along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on),
but i dont  think its that. The only difference between these machines
is that the one where  it has better transparency has been updated
while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space
on the HD) .

I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect
deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other
HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency
works better).

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[gentoo-user] symbolic link to var tmp

2005-06-03 Thread Ognjen Bezanov
I am trying to upgrade my gentoo box but the partition where /var/tmp
resides is too full.

So I tried making a symbolic link to another disk which had a lot of
space, but then gentoo refused to compile, giving me permission errors.

So im asking, how can you use /var/tmp on another disk. I dont want to
dedicate the whole disk and mount it to /var, so using links (or
possibly giving portage a differnt path) would be better.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

Oops,

What I was trying to say before I hit the wrong key, I
paused the boot screen on the non-booting gentoo box
and took a look at the HD line. It says the LBA mode
is off. 32 bit mode is off. DMA mode is UDMA6, PIO
mode is 4

FWIW


I took a peek at the manual for your MB.  You might want to double check
the BIOS settings for the hard disk and make sure that LBA/Large mode is
set to Auto.

Also, what is the CHS reported by the kernel in the dmesg output?  If it
says CHS=/255/63, then LBA mode is active.

You might want to try a modified setup command in grub:

root (hd0,1)
setup --force-lba (hd0)

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Re: [gentoo-user] symbolic link to var tmp

2005-06-03 Thread A. R.
Hello,

Did you set the right permissions?
something like chmod 1777 destination directory on the other disk

Of course, as long as you are linking to a directory in the other disk, 
however, I don't really know what needs to be done if you are using 
the whole partition in the other disk as the target for /var/tmp ...
Maybe the permissions are set in the /etc/fstab file?

Regards,

- AR


On 6/3/05, Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to upgrade my gentoo box but the partition where /var/tmp
 resides is too full.
 
 So I tried making a symbolic link to another disk which had a lot of
 space, but then gentoo refused to compile, giving me permission errors.
 
 So im asking, how can you use /var/tmp on another disk. I dont want to
 dedicate the whole disk and mount it to /var, so using links (or
 possibly giving portage a differnt path) would be better.
 
 thanks
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] symbolic link to var tmp

2005-06-03 Thread Zac Medico


--- Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to upgrade my gentoo box but the
 partition where /var/tmp
 resides is too full.
 
 So I tried making a symbolic link to another disk
 which had a lot of
 space, but then gentoo refused to compile, giving me
 permission errors.
 

Hi Ognjen,

You can't use a symbolic link like that with sandbox. 
You need to set PORTAGE_TMPDIR in make.conf.

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Re: [gentoo-user] symbolic link to var tmp

2005-06-03 Thread Holly Bostick
Ognjen Bezanov schreef:
 I am trying to upgrade my gentoo box but the partition where /var/tmp
 resides is too full.
 
 So I tried making a symbolic link to another disk which had a lot of
 space, but then gentoo refused to compile, giving me permission errors.
 
 So im asking, how can you use /var/tmp on another disk. I dont want to
 dedicate the whole disk and mount it to /var, so using links (or
 possibly giving portage a differnt path) would be better.
 
 thanks
 

You could also try cleaning /var/tmp out:

/var/tmp/portage can be emptied in its entirety, but most of the folders
there should not be taking up much space, as successfully completed
emerges will leave only a couple of bytes or kilobytes inside the
program's folder.

However, if you have failed emerges, especially for large compiles like
openoffice (not the bin), or xorg or something, the folder for that
emerge will still be in /var/tmp/portage/program_name/temp/work, because
the temporary work files are not deleted if the emerge fails. That can
take up a whole lot of space (the emerge for OOo uses some 3GB temp
space before completeion).

So you might consider deleting any program folders in /var/tmp/portage
for programs you know failed to compile and see if that helps.

Or, of course you could change your PORTAGE_TMPDIR setting in
/etc/make.conf and then change it back when you were done making
whatever new arrangements you wanted for the default /var/tmp.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD drive not found on new AMD64 system

2005-06-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:12:21AM +, Michael Kjorling wrote

 (Nvidia NF3 chipset). Two PATA IDE channels on board and in use: on
 ide0, the system hard disk and a smaller one [which fails to be
 detected, but that is not a big issue], both using Cable Select; on
 
 
 
  [...deletia...]

   NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround.
   NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround.
 
 
 

  Do *NOT* use cable select.  Yes, it works with Windoze, but then
so do Winmodems.  Set master/slave properly.  You are not the first
person to have run into problems with cable select.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-03 Thread maxim wexler
 
 Ah, some progress at last!  Seems like there is a
 problem in the
 grub.conf file, but nothing too serious.  Could you
 re-post that file?

default 0
timeout 30
title=Gentoo
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4
title=WinXP
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

Ah, some progress at last!  Seems like there is a
problem in the
grub.conf file, but nothing too serious.  Could you
re-post that file?



default 0
timeout 30
title=Gentoo
root (hd0,1)
  

Remove the root (hd0,1) line.  That should (I hope) let you boot
gentoo from the floppy.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Ryan
It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is
itself in alpha stage).  For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY
REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it.  But I noticed that the console
transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop
it.  You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control
panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab.  Just put a check in enable
GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha
transperency, but it'll probably slow down the system considerably.

Simon Maynard wrote:

It shouldn't be a hardware issue as my machine has a Geforce 4 running
the nvidia-drivers. He has a Geforce 3 running the nvidia-drivers also.
I am also running the latest stable versions of everything mixed with a
few unstable packages. So it shouldn't be a problem regarding me running
out of date software.

Thanks

Simon

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 18:46 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote:
  

Simon Maynard wrote:



Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a
better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all
refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas
on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates.
He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using
Gentoo, by default.

Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere?

Thanks,

Simon

 

  

I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not
refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it
along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on),
but i dont  think its that. The only difference between these machines
is that the one where  it has better transparency has been updated
while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space
on the HD) .

I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect
deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other
HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency
works better).




  


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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Ryan
Oppsie, I told you the wrong place for the alpha transperancy.  It's in
Desktop/Window Behavior/Translucency

Simon Maynard wrote:

It shouldn't be a hardware issue as my machine has a Geforce 4 running
the nvidia-drivers. He has a Geforce 3 running the nvidia-drivers also.
I am also running the latest stable versions of everything mixed with a
few unstable packages. So it shouldn't be a problem regarding me running
out of date software.

Thanks

Simon

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 18:46 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote:
  

Simon Maynard wrote:



Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a
better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all
refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas
on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates.
He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using
Gentoo, by default.

Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere?

Thanks,

Simon

 

  

I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not
refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it
along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on),
but i dont  think its that. The only difference between these machines
is that the one where  it has better transparency has been updated
while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space
on the HD) .

I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect
deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other
HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency
works better).




  


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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Simon Maynard
He is running FVWM, same as me. He has also had this exact same kind of
transparency for over a year now and also in two different distributions
and with multiple types of terminal.

Its really bugging me now :-) Thanks for your input,

Simon

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 13:44 -0600, Ryan wrote:
 It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is
 itself in alpha stage).  For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY
 REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it.  But I noticed that the console
 transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop
 it.  You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control
 panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab.  Just put a check in enable
 GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha
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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Ryan
One other note, you will also need Load extmod in your X server config
file for the alpha to work.  Otherwise you wont notice true alpha being
on.  The easiest way to tell if you have true alpha on is to make the
taskbar transperant and then move a window BEHIND it.  If you can see
the window, you have alpha on.  If it is still showing the desktop
background, then alpha is still not working for some reason.

Ryan wrote:

It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is
itself in alpha stage).  For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY
REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it.  But I noticed that the console
transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop
it.  You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control
panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab.  Just put a check in enable
GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha
transperency, but it'll probably slow down the system considerably.

Simon Maynard wrote:

  

It shouldn't be a hardware issue as my machine has a Geforce 4 running
the nvidia-drivers. He has a Geforce 3 running the nvidia-drivers also.
I am also running the latest stable versions of everything mixed with a
few unstable packages. So it shouldn't be a problem regarding me running
out of date software.

Thanks

Simon

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 18:46 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote:
 



Simon Maynard wrote:

   

  

Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a
better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all
refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas
on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates.
He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using
Gentoo, by default.

Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere?

Thanks,

Simon



 



I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not
refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it
along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on),
but i dont  think its that. The only difference between these machines
is that the one where  it has better transparency has been updated
while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space
on the HD) .

I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect
deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other
HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency
works better).

   

  

 




  


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

I took a peek at the manual for your MB.  You might
want to double check
the BIOS settings for the hard disk and make sure
that LBA/Large mode is
set to Auto.



It *is*. The only other choice is disabled. 

  

Also, what is the CHS reported by the kernel in the
dmesg output?  If it
says CHS=/255/63, then LBA mode is active.




CHS=65535/16/63

  


Damn.  Looks like LBA is being disabled, most likely because the drive
was initially partitioned without LBA.  Parted might be able to fix
this, but I'm not sure.  You may have to restart from scratch

If you are brave, follow these steps _very_ carefully to see if it is
simply due to the partitioning of the disk.  If you are careful, you can
do this without damaging any data on your system.  All of this will be
from the livecd:

First, backup your partition table and MBR to a floppy disk:

# mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
# dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/floppy/mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
# fdisk -l /dev/hda  /mnt/floppy/partitions.txt
# umount /mnt/floppy

Now we need to erase things:

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 ## DOUBLE CHECK THIS LINE

And reboot the live CD.  If LBA is working, CHS should now be reported
as xxx/255/63.

To restore things, run:

# mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
# dd if=/mnt/floppy/mbr.backup of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 ## DOUBLE
CHECK AGAIN

If you have logical partitions also, use the data in
/mnt/floppy/partitions.txt to recreate them using fdisk with the exact
starting cylinder, ending cylinder, and Id.

# umount /mnt/floppy

And reboot.  If all went well, you didn't lose any data...



If you do decide to rebuild the system, and we did not get LBA mode from
blanking the partition table and rebooting above, then you can try
running fdisk with -H 255, partition the drive, and reboot.  That
should basically force things to the right mode.

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Re: [gentoo-user] symbolic link to var tmp

2005-06-03 Thread Philip Webb
050603 Ognjen Bezanov wrote:
 I tried making a symbolic link to another disk

IIRC you can make a symbolic link only within the same partition.
others please correct me, if i'm mistaken.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Fish
Richard Fish wrote:

maxim wexler wrote:

  

Ah, some progress at last!  Seems like there is a
problem in the
grub.conf file, but nothing too serious.  Could you
re-post that file?

   

  

default 0
timeout 30
title=Gentoo
root (hd0,1)
 



Remove the root (hd0,1) line.  That should (I hope) let you boot
gentoo from the floppy.

-Richard

  


Um, sorry, what I meant to say was:

Change the lines above to read:

default 0
timeout 30

title Gentoo
kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4

title WinXP
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Ryan
Well, then I guess I wouldnt know.  Thats the only way I've ever been
able to get Konsole or Gnome Terminal to use real alpha transperency.  I
would check your Xorg config for that Extmod line I mentioned in the
other post.  Without it, you cant use real alpha transperency (well at
least in my experiences anyways).

Simon Maynard wrote:

He is running FVWM, same as me. He has also had this exact same kind of
transparency for over a year now and also in two different distributions
and with multiple types of terminal.

Its really bugging me now :-) Thanks for your input,

Simon

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 13:44 -0600, Ryan wrote:
  

It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is
itself in alpha stage).  For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY
REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it.  But I noticed that the console
transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop
it.  You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control
panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab.  Just put a check in enable
GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha
transperency, but it'll probably slow down the system considerably.



  


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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Fish
Simon Maynard wrote:

He is running FVWM, same as me. He has also had this exact same kind of
transparency for over a year now and also in two different distributions
and with multiple types of terminal.
  


Maybe I am wrong (I can't actually stand terminal transparency...sure it
looks cool, but I need to get work done!), but I think this is what the
COMPOSITE extension for X was supposed to do...allow high-performance
alpha blending among other things.

You might check out (via xdpyinfo) whether his X is built/configured for
composite support or not..and compare to yours.

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SOLVED: [gentoo-user] DVD drive not found on new AMD64 system

2005-06-03 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 2005-06-03 14:52 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Do *NOT* use cable select.  Yes, it works with Windoze, but then
 so do Winmodems.  Set master/slave properly.  You are not the first
 person to have run into problems with cable select.

First off: thanks, Walter! Yes, setting master/slave manually did make
the smaller disk show up to both the BIOS and Linux. I also tried
re-jumpering hdc and hdd, putting the hard disk as master and the DVD
drive as slave instead of the other way around.

And would you believe it? It solved all the problems at once! The
drives seem to show up properly, and now the system will also reboot
properly. (It failed - hanged - before the BIOS came to Detecting IDE
drives when I used Cable Select.)

Winmodems always makes me wonder what other crap might pass for
hardware, but that's another tale for another day and one I am sure is
told even here frequently enough anyway.

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Re: SOLVED: [gentoo-user] DVD drive not found on new AMD64 system

2005-06-03 Thread Colin

Michael Kjorling wrote:


On 2005-06-03 14:52 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


 Do *NOT* use cable select.  Yes, it works with Windoze, but then
so do Winmodems.  Set master/slave properly.  You are not the first
person to have run into problems with cable select.
   


First off: thanks, Walter! Yes, setting master/slave manually did make
the smaller disk show up to both the BIOS and Linux. I also tried
re-jumpering hdc and hdd, putting the hard disk as master and the DVD
drive as slave instead of the other way around.

And would you believe it? It solved all the problems at once! The
drives seem to show up properly, and now the system will also reboot
properly. (It failed - hanged - before the BIOS came to Detecting IDE
drives when I used Cable Select.)

Winmodems always makes me wonder what other crap might pass for
hardware, but that's another tale for another day and one I am sure is
told even here frequently enough anyway.
 

As far as I've heard, the Linux kernel doesn't work well with cable 
select.  Don't know why, though.  Personally, I've used cable select 
before with no problems.  Anyway, with Serial ATA here, IDE master/slave 
settings and all those SCSI jumpers (ID, termination, power on, SE/LVD, 
etc.) should be a thing of the past.


If the BIOS autodetects drives, why would the OS have so much trouble?  
My guess is the Linux kernel chooses to bypass the slow BIOS and access 
the hardware directly, which is why options such as hdx=stroke work with 
older BIOSes.


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo deployment scripts?

2005-06-03 Thread Matthias Bethke
There's some SuSE-based workstations around me here I have to take care
of. I guess they won't have to bear SuSE for much longer though.
The alternatives I can imagine now are Debian and Gentoo. Personally I'd
prefer Gentoo, but I don't feel like reinventing the weel by writing my
own deployment scripts. There are not many different hardware setups, so
I could do an initial install by installing one machine of each and then
cloning its HD---the main problem is getting updates done without having
to waste megawatthours on unneccessary compilation. I've seen people
mentioning such setups here, so I guess somebody has developed the stuff
I'd need already? I'd be thankful for any hint or pointer...

cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Does a stage 2 or 3 install eventually catch up with stage 1?

2005-06-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 11:08:21PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
 On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:21:35 -0400, Phil Sexton wrote:

  After I have the new portage tree, I then
  
  emerge --update --deep --newuse world
  
  I think I have essentially a stage 1 install without having to
  re-compile working stuff that needs no changes.
 
 Except that any changes to your CFLAGS make no difference to packages
 that are not recompiled. If you really want the equivalent of a stage 1
 install, you should do emerge -e world. However, most packages will be
 recompiled eventually, so you would reach almost a stage 1 at some time.

  Am I missing something here?  Doesn't --newuse catch everything that
is affected by changed flags?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo deployment scripts?

2005-06-03 Thread Antonino Sabetta
 mentioning such setups here, so I guess somebody has developed the stuff
 I'd need already? I'd be thankful for any hint or pointer...

This does not answer you question, but probably could be a partial
solution: have you considered cloning the hd of the 'first' machine
and then copying it to the hd of all the others? g4u for instance
could be used for this purpose
AS

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo deployment scripts?

2005-06-03 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Antonino,
on Friday, 2005-06-03 at 20:55:43, you wrote:
 So you're actually trying to reuse even the compilation work performed on
 the 'first' (let's call it 'master') machine and avoid compiling on all
 the others when you do an emerge --update world for instance?

That was my idea, or rather that's how I understood someone whose name I
forgot seems to have done it. Makes sense IMHO.

 If there were such a script that could copy the binaries and the new
 files to all the other machines I would probably not trust it! :)

Why? The total size of the shell/Python/whatever-scripts a simple
emerge foo triggers is probably over a meg, and it usually runs just
fine. Thinking about it, some simple parsing of emerge's output should
do something useful already:

emerge $package |
sed -n '/^ Merging $package/,/^ \* / {s/^[^ ] //; p}' |
while read f; do scp $f $somewhere ; done

I wouldn't mind adding another 500 bytes of Perl there :)

 I'd try to automate as much as possible the update process, possibly
 by keeping sincronized the configuration files of all the machines (but
 this is to be done on a per-file basis!!) and/or triggering an emerge foo
 on the other machines as soon as you do an emerge foo on the master.
 I must admit that I see this process difficult to understand and to
 debug in case of errors or misbehaviours

Yup. It's unlikely something should fail as long as all machines keep an
identical configuration, but glitches can still happen. So I'd have to
look through all the compilation logs...hm :-S We'll see.

cheers!
Matthias

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Re: SOLVED: [gentoo-user] DVD drive not found on new AMD64 system

2005-06-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 09:07:35PM +, Michael Kjorling wrote

 Winmodems always makes me wonder what other crap might pass for
 hardware, but that's another tale for another day and one I am sure is
 told even here frequently enough anyway.

tinfoil=tight
  Each time I hear about Bill Gates pushing a new hardware standard, I
get nervous.  It seems that Winmodems, Winprinters, USB modems, etc.
have one goal... namely to only run on the latest version of Windows.
Even if you can get a new computer without Windows, you'll find that
linux (or for that matter your old copy of Windows98SE) won't work
because the manufacturers do proprietary stuff with their peripherals
and they only write drivers for the latest Windows version.
/tinfoil

  Even nVidia, who do provide some proprietary drivers for linux, won't
necessarily run on the latest linux kernel.  And please don't get me
started about mouse and keyboard connectors.  It's annoying having to
keep a computer 18 inches away from the wall because the serial mouse is
connected to a serial-to-PS2 adaptor, which is connected to a PS2-to-USB
adaptor.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does a stage 2 or 3 install eventually catch up with stage 1?

2005-06-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 03 June 2005 06:41 pm, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 11:08:21PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote

  On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:21:35 -0400, Phil Sexton wrote:
   After I have the new portage tree, I then
  
   emerge --update --deep --newuse world
  
   I think I have essentially a stage 1 install without having to
   re-compile working stuff that needs no changes.
 
  Except that any changes to your CFLAGS make no difference to packages
  that are not recompiled. If you really want the equivalent of a stage
  1 install, you should do emerge -e world.

   Am I missing something here?  Doesn't --newuse catch everything that
 is affected by changed flags?

-N (--newuse) catches USE flags (which may or may not affect a package, and 
the ones that use are listed in the ebuild's IUSE variable), not CFLAGS 
(which affect all C-language packages) or CXXFLAGS (which affect all 
C++-language packages).

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.4.1?

2005-06-03 Thread Roy Wright
Howdy,

I'm seeing an interesting change in behaviour between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
When told to turn off or reboot the computer, KDM now exits to a console
login prompt instead of shutting down.  Any ideas?

Overall 3.4.1 is feeling more stable.  The only seg faults have been on
shutdown.  Konqueror would seg fault occasionally in 3.4.0.  This is on
a 3GHz P4 system.

The more I use KDE, the more I'm liking it.  Blows M$ away for usability.

TIA,
Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.4.1?

2005-06-03 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Maybe the user can't shutdown? Try the halt command from a console
using the user that you log in with KDE. Also check the logs to see if
any message appears while you command the shutdown.

I personally dislike KDE, but that's related to the fact that I don't
have such a computer (p4 3G) to run it, on my downclocked athlon xp
1.1 fluxbox rules. That's not something to discuss here, I'm just more
of a no ruindow$ style.

On 6/4/05, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 I'm seeing an interesting change in behaviour between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
 When told to turn off or reboot the computer, KDM now exits to a console
 login prompt instead of shutting down.  Any ideas?
 
 Overall 3.4.1 is feeling more stable.  The only seg faults have been on
 shutdown.  Konqueror would seg fault occasionally in 3.4.0.  This is on
 a 3GHz P4 system.
 
 The more I use KDE, the more I'm liking it.  Blows M$ away for usability.
 
 TIA,
 Roy
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[gentoo-user] telnet without telnetd anyone???

2005-06-03 Thread Walter Dnes
  Just poking around through my system today.  I see a directory
/etc/xinet.d complete with cupsd and telnetd config files (WTF?).  I'm
sure we're all aware of the (in)security of telnetd.  And yes, I had
/usr/sbin/in.telnetd but no xinetd or xinetd.  /etc/var/lib/portage/world
indicates that I had telnet-bsd installed.  qpkg -q -I telnet-bsd said
that nothing depends on it, so I unmerge it.

  Now I find that I have no telnet client for custom whois queries, etc.
netkit-telnetd is obviously not what I want.  Is there a package that
provides a plain ordinary telnet client... period???

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