[gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Nick Rout
When I log into gnome I get a dialog with the following message:

Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found

Advcie from google and forums.g.o seems to point to the following likely
solutions:

1. make sure user has ability to do audio - yes I can, and everything I
run in gnome produces audio output when it should (mplayer, xmms,
mpg123, xine, whatever)

2. run gst-register-0.8 - done it, more than once. Doesn't complain
about any problems, but makes no difference even after a reboot.

Thats about a summary of the suggested fixes and the results. I figured
that the error seemed to be on running gnome-volume-control, so when i
run it from an xterm I get the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/torrents/nick $ gnome-volume-control

** (gnome-volume-control:19921): CRITICAL **: how to remove plugins?

(gnome-volume-control:19921): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Factory for
`ossmixer' has no type. This probably means the plugin wasn't found
because the registry is broken. The plugin GStreamer was looking for is
named 'ossaudio' and is expected in file
'/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstossaudio.so'. The registry for this plugin
is located at '/var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml'

** (gnome-volume-control:19921): CRITICAL **: how to remove plugins?

(gnome-volume-control:19921): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Factory for
`alsamixer' has no type. This probably means the plugin wasn't found
because the registry is broken. The plugin GStreamer was looking for is
named 'alsa' and is expected in file
'/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstalsa.so'. The registry for this plugin is
located at '/var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml'


OK well it looks like something is missing. I though gst-register-0.8
was supposed to sort all that out.

What am I missing or what do I do to fix this? Can I safely
delete /var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml and re-run the register
program and see if that makes a difference? Or will i break something?


As sound is in fact working in all apps I use, its not such a worry,
just a sign that something is broken, and if something is broken it may
get worse down the track.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why gpm?

2005-09-11 Thread aka Sevein
You have net-misc/dhcpcd,
a DHCP client only.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:43:01 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

   1) In /etc/make.conf set the following entry...
 MAKEOPTS=-j1
  Do *NOT*, I repeat, do *NOT* use higher numbers.  You are begging
 for problems if you do so.

This is a blanket statement that will only slow down compiles for a lot
of people that use higher numbers with no problems. I use j2 on three
different boxes and I don't recall a single problem on any of them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Does mythtv require older nvidia builds on a radeon system?

2005-09-11 Thread Holly Bostick
W.Kenworthy schreef:
 Does mythtv require older nvidia builds on a radeon system?
 
 bunyip ~ # emerge media-tv/mythtv -vp
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 [ebuild  N] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r1  +alsa (-altivec) -arts 
 -debug +dvb +frontendonly -jack -joystick +lcd +lirc +mmx +nvidia 
 +opengl +oss -unichrome +vorbis 8,651 kB

 This is is on a laptop using a radeon card!  I presume its the opengl
  use flag is the root cause.
 
No, it's more likely that big 'ol +nvidia USE flag you've got set.
Presumably this is unnecessary, since you don't have an nVidia card that
can use any such drivers, so perhaps you'd like to add -nvida to
/etc/make.conf.

:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:33:20 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:

 I imagine he read the install instructions, which are pretty clear about
 doing an 
 
 emerge --emptytree system
 
 What makes you think this is wrong?
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6#doc_chap2

This is about building the system, not rebuilding it. Ay this point of
the installation, system has not been merged, so the only rebuilding
--emptytree does is the packages installed by bootstrap.sh. As the about
docs say, --emptytree is only needed then if you have changed your CFLAGS,
otherwise --newuse is sufficient.

Rebuilding an entire system that is working fine is a clear breach of if
it ain't broke, don't fix it, so should only be done if you are aware of
the potential problems and consequences, and how to deal with them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Does mythtv require older nvidia builds on a radeon system?

2005-09-11 Thread William Kenworthy
How did I miss that!, why is that set ...

oh well, I overlooked the obvious - thanks.

BillK


On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 11:13 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 W.Kenworthy schreef:
  Does mythtv require older nvidia builds on a radeon system?
  
  bunyip ~ # emerge media-tv/mythtv -vp
  
  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
  
  [ebuild  N] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r1  +alsa (-altivec) -arts 
  -debug +dvb +frontendonly -jack -joystick +lcd +lirc +mmx +nvidia 
  +opengl +oss -unichrome +vorbis 8,651 kB
 
  This is is on a laptop using a radeon card!  I presume its the opengl
   use flag is the root cause.
  
 No, it's more likely that big 'ol +nvidia USE flag you've got set.
 Presumably this is unnecessary, since you don't have an nVidia card that
 can use any such drivers, so perhaps you'd like to add -nvida to
 /etc/make.conf.
 
 :-)
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] panel error

2005-09-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Crute schreef:
 On 9/10/05, *Dave Nebinger* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A google search turned up another message:
 
 I had this too after I botched a VNC install. I solved it by 
 purging /tmp and all the config files in my home directory. There 
 is probably a better way but it was a new install and I didn't have
  my files on it anyhow. So try creating a new user with a new home 
 directory and see if that fixes things.
 
 Don't know if that applies to you, though.
 
 
 Hmm... feeling some dejavu with that quote. Odd. Anyhow in that one I
  wasn't quite talking about this issue. The times I have had this 
 happen are when I do something to crash Gnome. Typically a sudo 
 killall gnome-panel from a regular terminal is all it takes to fix 
 this.
 
 -Mike
 
Yes, but that doesn't necessarily fix it permanently, depending on your
settings.

Here's the deal (afaik, based on my long experience with GNOME):

One of 2 variations of the same situation seem to cause this issue:

1) there is a previously crashed panel (zombie) trying to start when the
session is loaded;

2) there is a previously crashed panel applet (zombie) trying to start
an instance of the panel when the session is loaded.

The overall issue is that the gnome-panel is always set to 'restart' in
the session manager (so if it crashes, the panel would automatically
attempt to restart, as you don't have much of a GNOME desktop without
the panel), and (of course), any panel applet that wants to run is going
to attempt to start the panel (because the applet depends on the panel
running).

The secondary issue is your individual settings for 'save session on
exit'. If the last saved session contains this zombie process, it's
going to attempt to restart whenever you login, because that's what the
purpose of the saved session is (to restore the session as it was when
saved, irrespective of its state of cleanliness).

So what has to be done is that the saved session itself has to be
cleaned of this zombie process. The problem is that much of the time,
these zombie processes do not appear in any system monitor (under
'normal' circumstances).

Two ways to do this (I find 'the long way' more reliable, but both
should theoretically work):

1) Go to GNOME Control Center = Advanced = Sessions and find out what
your session save settings are in the first place.

The short way: Set the session save to 'ask me on logout'

The long way: Turn off all session saving.

If you're going the short way, now do a killall -9 gnome-panel in a
terminal. This should be sufficient if the problem is a crashed panel,
but it won't necessarily be if the problem is a crashed applet. For
example, I normally have this problem when I first install GNOME, and
the mixer applet-- which is a default applet-- crashes due to not being
yet properly set. The mixer applet is default, so it's always going to
attempt to start, and when I get the settings fixed, it will start
normally, but prior to that I probably got a message that the mixer
applet was crashed and do I want to remove it from the panel layout?
Well of course I don't, *but* what seems to really happen is that when I
correct the settings in the Sound area of the Control Panel or whatever,
the 'original' applet doesn't get fixed and start, but a new, fixed
instance of the applet starts. So the original crashed applet that I
didn't remove is trying to start an instance of the panel, and the new,
working instance of the applet is trying to start a panel. The solution
to this is usually to remove all instances of the applet (which may
require going to gconf-editor to fix the crashed one, since I didn't
take the layout out of there when I had the chance), and add the applet
back to the panel (so that one instance only is requested), and save the
session (so that the session where both applets are attempting to start
is overwritten).

Yeah, OK, the 'short way'  isn't all that short, but GNOME can be fairly
obtuse at times.

Log out and explicitly save the session, then log back in. If the
problem was simply a zombie instance of the panel, it should now not
attempt to restart, and the 'regular' panel should start normally
(although this has never really worked for me, it's *supposed* to). You
can then set your Session settings back to 'automatically save session
on exit' or whatever you like.

The long way:

Log out (you've turned off session saving, so your current settings will
not be saved again).

Log back in to the 'GNOME failsafe session', which should be listed in
your list of sessions if you use GDM. If you use KDM, I'm not sure, and
I'm also not sure how you get into it using startx (I'd have to look in
my sessions folder, which I'll do after I finish this).

The idea of the failsafe session is that it's not going to run any
'startup scripts' (whatever those are for GNOME), but just the
essentials of the default session. In any case, whatever it means, the
result as I have seen it is that:

1) 

[gentoo-user] ldap user auth

2005-09-11 Thread timothy johnson
Hi all,
I just got done following the howto for ldap user auth. everything I
thought went fine. but when I switch my pam file over to what the howto
says, then it wont let me log in. 
getent passwd|grep 0:0returns what it says its is suppose to. below are my pam file, and my recent logs, any ideas on what could be wrong?auth   required pam_env.soauth   sufficient   pam_unix.so likeauth nullok
auth   required pam_deny.soaccountrequired pam_unix.sopassword   required pam_cracklib.so difok=2 minlen=8 dcredit=2 ocredit=2 retry=3password   sufficient   pam_unix.so nullok md5 shadow use_authtok
password   required pam_deny.sosessionrequired pam_limits.sosessionrequired pam_unix.so#auth   requiredpam_env.so#auth   sufficient  pam_unix.so likeauth nullok shadow
#auth   sufficient  pam_ldap.so use_first_pass#auth   requiredpam_deny.so#accountrequiredpam_unix.so#accountsufficient  pam_ldap.so
#password   requiredpam_cracklib.so retry=3#password   sufficient  pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok shadow md5#password   sufficient  pam_ldap.so use_authtok#password   requriedpam_deny.so
#sessionrequriedpam_limits.so#sessionrequriedpam_unix.so#sessionrequriedpam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel umask=0#sessionoptionalpam_ldap.so
Right now I have it set on my old config, so that I can login to the system, but when I comment out the top half and uncomment the bottom, I cant log in, and I get the follow lines in my log.Sep 11 02:13:36 tux login[7101]: PAM pam_parse: expecting return value; [...requried]
Sep 11 02:13:36 tux login[7101]: PAM pam_parse: expecting return value; [...requried]Sep 11 02:13:36 tux login[7101]: PAM pam_parse: expecting return value; [...requried]Sep 11 02:13:36 tux login[7101]: PAM pam_parse: expecting return value; [...requried]
Sep 11 02:13:40 tux slapd[6726]: conn=27 fd=13 ACCEPT from IP=127.0.0.1:53088 (IP=0.0.0.0:636)Sep 11 02:13:40 tux slapd[6733]: conn=27 op=0 BIND dn= method=128
Sep 11 02:13:40 tux slapd[6733]: conn=27 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 text=Sep 11 02:13:40 tux slapd[6734]: conn=27 op=1 SRCH base=ou=People,dc=mydomain,dc=org scope=2 deref=0 filter=((objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=timothy))
Sep 11 02:13:40 tux login(pam_unix)[7101]: session opened for user timothy by LOGIN(uid=0)Sep 11 02:13:40 tux slapd[6734]: conn=27 op=1 SEARCH RESULT tag=101 err=0 nentries=1 text=Sep 11 02:13:40 tux slapd[6733]: conn=27 op=2 UNBIND
Sep 11 02:13:40 tux slapd[6733]: conn=27 fd=13 closedSep 11 02:13:40 tux login[7101]: Permission denied


Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Robert Robinson
On 9/11/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:43:01 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
 
1) In /etc/make.conf set the following entry...
  MAKEOPTS=-j1
   Do *NOT*, I repeat, do *NOT* use higher numbers.  You are begging
  for problems if you do so.
 
 This is a blanket statement that will only slow down compiles for a lot
 of people that use higher numbers with no problems. I use j2 on three
 different boxes and I don't recall a single problem on any of them.
 

I, for some reason, recall ebuilds (mplayer?) being able to adjust the
MAKEOPTS and compiler flags on a case by case basis.  And if I recall
incorrectly, it should really be in there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql no longer working :-(

2005-09-11 Thread Antoine

...

If you still have a copy of your old databases and you stick with myisam
tables
Try to:
- stop mysql (check it with ps fax after)
- copy the old /var/lib/mysql/mysql dir into /var/lib/mysql/mysqlold
- copy the remaing databases in /var/lib/mysql/
- start mysql

Now you could play with your old tables pheraps

Good luck


I had to reinitialise phpmyadmin (of course!) because the data in the 
old database was no longer there!

Cheers
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[gentoo-user] Failing to unmerge old PHP package

2005-09-11 Thread Goeran Zängerlein

Hello *,

for some reason I have an old, unneeded PHP package floating around 
(dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2). When trying to remove it via 'emerge -v 
depclean' I get the following error message:


---snip---
QA Notice: ECLASS 'php' inherited illegally in dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2

/usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1443: 
/usr/portage/eclass/php.eclass: No such file or directory


!!! ERROR: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2 failed.
!!! Function inherit, Line 1444, Exitcode 1
!!! died sourcing /usr/portage/eclass/php.eclass in inherit()
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.


!!! FAILED prerm: 1
---snap---

I get the same error when using 'emerge --unmerge dev-php/mod_php'

It would be great, if someone could tell me of how to get rid of this 
package. Thanks a lot!


regards,
Goeran


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[gentoo-user] mod_perl2

2005-09-11 Thread Antoine

Hi,
I just can't seem to figure out how to get perl working on apache2. 
There don't seem to be any decent gentoo-specific docs, and it seems 
like the names of config files are changing constantly :-(.
Anyway, I have installed ~x86 apache2 and mod_perl. What do I do now? I 
have tried to test things but when I put the following in httpd.conf 
apache no longer starts.


Alias /perl/ /home/httpd/perl/ 

 Location /perl 
SetHandler  perl-script 
 PerlHandler Apache::Registry 
  Options ExecCGI 
   PerlSendHeader 
On 
PerlSetupEnv On 
  /Location


tux ~ # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files:
Syntax error on line 1104 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf:
Invalid command 'PerlHandler', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a 
module not included in the server configuration
Can someone point me in the right direction? It seems a lot more 
complicated than simply adding -D PHP4...

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] panel error

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:30 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
  Every time I log into gnome I get this annoying error:
  
  I've detected a panal already running, and will now exit.
  
  My wife tells me that she gets the same message when she logs into her
  account on this machine.  Is there a way to remedy this problem?  I
  checked the gentoo-user archives at GMane searching for 'panel', but
  didn't find anything...
 
 A google search turned up another message:
 
  I had this too after I botched a VNC install. I solved it by
  purging /tmp and all the config files in my home directory. There is
  probably a better way but it was a new install and I didn't have my
  files on it anyhow. So try creating a new user with a new home
  directory and see if that fixes things.
 
 Don't know if that applies to you, though.

I'd really prefer not to wipe the config files in my home directory...

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[gentoo-user] Build Problem

2005-09-11 Thread Greg Armer
Greetings list,

Could anyone explain why 40% of all my emerges fail with this error
message ?

gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc

Upon executing this file directly, it returns the exact same message:

fyre ~ # /usr/bin/i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
fyre ~ #


Here is my make.conf file incase this helps:

fyre ~ # cat /etc/make.conf
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
USE=gtk gtk2 gnome -qt -kde dvd alsa cdr


I have a feeling it has something to do with my CHOST flag, I wonder if
deleting /usr/bin/i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc and
symlinking /usr/bin/i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc to that filename would work ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] panel error

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Crute
On 9/11/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd really prefer not to wipe the config files in my home directory...Then don't, its not neccessary for this problem. That was the fix for another Gnome problem I had (not related to panels). Try following Holly's advice.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Crute
On 9/11/05, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2) The generic portion of CFLAGS consists of those flags that do notbegin with -m.For that part, use -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointerPlease, do *NOT* use -O3 (or higher!!!) or try to unroll every last
loop or use every last exotic generic optimization.Your programs will*USUALLY* work, but they'll probably be flakier.They may be faster, orthey may be slower.However, people will point their fingers at you and
laugh.Developers will ignore you when a program blows up and you filea bug report.The only exception is if a developer specifically OK'sspecial optimizations for specific modules or programs, and is willing
to support those modules or programs with extra optimization.Thingsmay change in future versions of gcc, but the 3.4.x series works bestwith the settings I've given.It may be simpler to look at 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi Nick,
   I know it's unlikely, but one other possibility is the sound card
itself. A number of my RME cards (Hammerfall, HDSP 9652) actually have
no mixer elements, meaning they cannot be controlled by Alsamixer, and
so I get the same messages even though the cards work fine with
mplayer, etc. I somehow doubt this is your case but it doesn't hurt to
point out that this message can be normal.

   Are you attempting to run the Gnome sound server? If there a
conflict happening there?

   What sound hardware are you running?

lspci
cat /proc/asound/cards

Good luck,
Mark

On 9/10/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I log into gnome I get a dialog with the following message:
 
 Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found
 
 Advcie from google and forums.g.o seems to point to the following likely
 solutions:
 
 1. make sure user has ability to do audio - yes I can, and everything I
 run in gnome produces audio output when it should (mplayer, xmms,
 mpg123, xine, whatever)
 
 2. run gst-register-0.8 - done it, more than once. Doesn't complain
 about any problems, but makes no difference even after a reboot.
 
 Thats about a summary of the suggested fixes and the results. I figured
 that the error seemed to be on running gnome-volume-control, so when i
 run it from an xterm I get the following:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/torrents/nick $ gnome-volume-control
 
 ** (gnome-volume-control:19921): CRITICAL **: how to remove plugins?
 
 (gnome-volume-control:19921): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Factory for
 `ossmixer' has no type. This probably means the plugin wasn't found
 because the registry is broken. The plugin GStreamer was looking for is
 named 'ossaudio' and is expected in file
 '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstossaudio.so'. The registry for this plugin
 is located at '/var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml'
 
 ** (gnome-volume-control:19921): CRITICAL **: how to remove plugins?
 
 (gnome-volume-control:19921): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Factory for
 `alsamixer' has no type. This probably means the plugin wasn't found
 because the registry is broken. The plugin GStreamer was looking for is
 named 'alsa' and is expected in file
 '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstalsa.so'. The registry for this plugin is
 located at '/var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml'
 
 
 OK well it looks like something is missing. I though gst-register-0.8
 was supposed to sort all that out.
 
 What am I missing or what do I do to fix this? Can I safely
 delete /var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml and re-run the register
 program and see if that makes a difference? Or will i break something?
 
 
 As sound is in fact working in all apps I use, its not such a worry,
 just a sign that something is broken, and if something is broken it may
 get worse down the track.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Weird problem with emerge sync

2005-09-11 Thread Paul Varner
 What is going wrong here? It can't be my implementation of rsync (latest
 stable), or the US pool would fail as well. It could be the servers in
 the European pool, but... all of them?
 
 Or am I simply using the wrong SYNC= in /etc/make.conf? My default is
 rsync.europe.gentoo.org, and I don't see any documentation that
 indicates that that has changed or become deprecated or invalid, but
 maybe it has. I don't particularly want to switch permanently to the US
 pool, as that just seems to make more vectors of instability for
 everybody, and is not really the point of having continental mirror
 pools anyway.
 
 Anybody got a clue as to what's happening and what, if anything, I can
 do to fix it?

You didn't state which version of rsync, but the versions below 2.6.4 do
have timeout issues.  See the following bugs:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83254
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2783

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Re: [gentoo-user] Weird problem with emerge sync

2005-09-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Paul Varner schreef:
 What is going wrong here? It can't be my implementation of rsync
 (latest stable), or the US pool would fail as well. It could be the
 servers in the European pool, but... all of them?
 
 Or am I simply using the wrong SYNC= in /etc/make.conf? My default
 is rsync.europe.gentoo.org, and I don't see any documentation that 
 indicates that that has changed or become deprecated or invalid,
 but maybe it has. I don't particularly want to switch permanently
 to the US pool, as that just seems to make more vectors of
 instability for everybody, and is not really the point of having
 continental mirror pools anyway.
 
 Anybody got a clue as to what's happening and what, if anything, I
 can do to fix it?
 
 
 You didn't state which version of rsync, but the versions below 2.6.4
 do have timeout issues.  See the following bugs:
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83254 
 https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2783
 

Thanks for the tip, Paul-- that could definitely be the issue:

net-misc/rsync
 Available versions:  2.6.0-r5 2.6.0-r6 ~2.6.3-r1 ~2.6.4 ~2.6.5 ~2.6.6
 Installed:   2.6.0-r6

For the time being, I've changed my sync mirror pool to the national one
(rather than the continental one), which seems like it's OK (but it's
early days yet, and I haven't tested extensively).

Is it worth going unstable with rsync for this? meaning, will using an
unstable rsync cause me any real problems, even as it (hopefully)
solves this (relatively minor) annoyance?

Thanks for the links; I'll look at the bugs later.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:09:29 +0200
Frank Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I returned home from work I found in the logs, that ``emerge
 --emptytree system'' failed at package 28 of 186
 
 python-fcksum-1.7.1
 i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc bla...bla
  ^
  |
  +- !
 
 gcc-config error:
   could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 
 My architecture is i686 and it seems that 27 packages before
 python-fchksum found the i686(that's SIX-eight-six)-pc-linux-gnu-gcc.

Hm, when editing /etc/make.conf, did you change the CHOST setting? That
could cause such behaviour... I think that may be amongst the reasons
why /etc/make.conf.example reads like:

---snip---
# Host Setting
# 
#
# DO NOT CHANGE THIS SETTING UNLESS YOU ARE USING STAGE1!
---snip---

...I guess you aren't using a stage1?


As a side note: When building a minimal system, using
USE=-*
in /etc/make.conf should be considered. You can then fine tune each and
every package in /etc/portage/package.use. That's quite like my setup,
my global USE is set to -* nptl ssl nls pam. All the other stuff is
set per package. I have one build host machine that distributes the
binary packages and portage tree snapshots to my other computers.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] mod_perl2

2005-09-11 Thread q-parser

Antoine wrote:


Hi,
I just can't seem to figure out how to get perl working on apache2. 
There don't seem to be any decent gentoo-specific docs, and it seems 
like the names of config files are changing constantly :-(.
Anyway, I have installed ~x86 apache2 and mod_perl. What do I do now? 
I have tried to test things but when I put the following in httpd.conf 
apache no longer starts.


Alias /perl/ /home/httpd/perl/
 Location /perl 
SetHandler  perl-script  
PerlHandler Apache::Registry 
  Options ExecCGI 
   PerlSendHeader 
On PerlSetupEnv On   /Location


tux ~ # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files:
Syntax error on line 1104 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf:
Invalid command 'PerlHandler', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a 
module not included in the server configuration
Can someone point me in the right direction? It seems a lot more 
complicated than simply adding -D PHP4...

Cheers
Antoine


I have installed mod_perl with no diffuculties. All I had to do after 
installing was to add update /etc/conf.d/apache2 and add -D PERL to line 
APACHE2_OPTS. I restarted apache and perl was working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Weird problem with emerge sync

2005-09-11 Thread Paul Varner
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 16:49 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Is it worth going unstable with rsync for this? meaning, will using an
 unstable rsync cause me any real problems, even as it (hopefully)
 solves this (relatively minor) annoyance?

I have not seen any stability issues with 2.6.4 or higher both with
Gentoo and a completely unrelated project at work that uses rsync. The
project at work did have significant issues with the timeout until we
upgraded rsync to 2.6.4.

 Thanks for the links; I'll look at the bugs later.

Quick summary, when the load on the server side is high, rsync will
erroneously timeout.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Build Problem

2005-09-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 03:37:11PM +0200, Greg Armer wrote:
 gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 
 Here is my make.conf file incase this helps:
 
 fyre ~ # cat /etc/make.conf
 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer
 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
 USE=gtk gtk2 gnome -qt -kde dvd alsa cdr
 
 
What does 
  gcc-config -c 
say?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 11 September 2005 08:33, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:03 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Saturday 10 September 2005 20:09, Frank Schafer wrote:
   ... or which distribution to install during less than 4 days?
  
   Hi list,
  
   as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work
   (started ``emerge --emptytree system'' in the morning).
 
  where did you get the idea that --emptytree is needed or even a wise
  decision? --emptytree is almost NEVER needed and since it is a troublesom
  procedure, it should not be made, until you are totally sure, that you
  need it.

 I imagine he read the install instructions, which are pretty clear about
 doing an

 emerge --emptytree system

 What makes you think this is wrong?

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6#doc_ch
ap2

 (bottom of the page)


WRONG

it is there to show you, what emerge system wants to install. there is nothing 
about doing it! (Check again, see the -p)

And in the 2005.1 handbook is no (!) --emptytree.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Mark Shields
From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:


// start quote

Building the System  

 To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system. Then
 go do something to keep your mind busy, because this step takes a
long time to  complete.


Code Listing 22: Building the System 
# emerge --emptytree system

   

 Again, if you haven't touched the default CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
setting, using --newuse is sufficient.

//  end quote

So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
unless you haven't changed the defalt CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, in which case
you can just use the --newuse in place of --emptytree.

On 9/11/05, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 11 September 2005 08:33, Nick Rout wrote:
  On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:03 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Saturday 10 September 2005 20:09, Frank Schafer wrote:
... or which distribution to install during less than 4 days?
   
Hi list,
   
as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work
(started ``emerge --emptytree system'' in the morning).
  
   where did you get the idea that --emptytree is needed or even a wise
   decision? --emptytree is almost NEVER needed and since it is a troublesom
   procedure, it should not be made, until you are totally sure, that you
   need it.
 
  I imagine he read the install instructions, which are pretty clear about
  doing an
 
  emerge --emptytree system
 
  What makes you think this is wrong?
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6#doc_ch
 ap2
 
  (bottom of the page)
 
 
 WRONG
 
 it is there to show you, what emerge system wants to install. there is nothing
 about doing it! (Check again, see the -p)
 
 And in the 2005.1 handbook is no (!) --emptytree.
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[gentoo-user] mail program

2005-09-11 Thread Rupert Young
Hi,

I'm new to this list and to gentoo.

After installation I'd expected to see programs available that were present
in UNIX systems I have used. For example, the program 'mail'.

Is it necessary to install such as these separately, and if so, where can I
get it?

Regards,
 
Rupert 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 and hibernate problem.

2005-09-11 Thread Paweł Madej

I've done so but system behaviour did not changed. Any other suggestions?

Greets
Paul



Harald Arnesen wrote:
   poweroff

# PowerdownMethod 5
Try uncommenting this line.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:58, Mark Shields wrote:
 From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:

 // start quote

 Building the System

  To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system. Then
  go do something to keep your mind busy, because this step takes a
 long time to  complete.


 Code Listing 22: Building the System
 # emerge --emptytree system



  Again, if you haven't touched the default CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
 setting, using --newuse is sufficient.

 //  end quote

 So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
 unless you haven't changed the defalt CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, in which case
 you can just use the --newuse in place of --emptytree.


and this one:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?full=1

does not talk about --emptytree at all, so which one is correct?

(btw, when I installed my gentoo --emptytree was totally not needed.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:58:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:

 // start quote
 
 Building the System  
 
  To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system.
 //  end quote
 
 So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,

When BUILDING THE SYSTEM. This thread was all about rebuilding the
system, which is a completely different, and usually unnecessary, process.


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Re: [gentoo-user] mail program

2005-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:09:08 +0100, Rupert Young wrote:

 Is it necessary to install such as these separately, and if so, where
 can I get it?

emerge -av mail-client/mailx


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Zac Medico
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:58, Mark Shields wrote:
 
From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:

[snip]

So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
unless you haven't changed the defalt CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, in which case
you can just use the --newuse in place of --emptytree.
 
 
 
 and this one:
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
 
 does not talk about --emptytree at all, so which one is correct?
 
 (btw, when I installed my gentoo --emptytree was totally not needed.)
 

The emerge --emptytree will ensure that all of your packages have been 
compiled with your latest CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS settings.  It is not stricly required 
because packages compiled with different CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS are interoperable.

Note that the 2005.1 handbook mentions only the stage3 and not stage1 or 
stage2.  Installation from the lower stages is more error prone and best 
avoided.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
Note that the 2005.1 handbook mentions only the stage3 and not stage1 or 
stage2.  Installation from the lower stages is more error prone and best 
avoided.


Hardly.  Starting from a stage 3 is like starting from any old binary 
distribution.


Starting from stage 1  2 allows you to build a box customized from the 
ground up optimized for your hardware (assuming you've set the cflags 
correctly before beginning).


IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build time 
for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order to have a 
basic working gentoo system in a short timeframe.


Granted it will be more error-prone to start at a lower stage, but we're all 
here because we want that level of build.  If we were happy with stage 3 
installs, we'd be running from some binary distribution instead.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Zac Medico
Dave Nebinger wrote:
 Note that the 2005.1 handbook mentions only the stage3 and not stage1
 or stage2.  Installation from the lower stages is more error prone and
 best avoided.
 
 
 Hardly.  Starting from a stage 3 is like starting from any old binary
 distribution.
 
 Starting from stage 1  2 allows you to build a box customized from the
 ground up optimized for your hardware (assuming you've set the cflags
 correctly before beginning).
 
 IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build
 time for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order to
 have a basic working gentoo system in a short timeframe.
 
 Granted it will be more error-prone to start at a lower stage, but we're
 all here because we want that level of build.  If we were happy with
 stage 3 installs, we'd be running from some binary distribution instead.
 

A stage3 install has most of the benefits of a stage1 or stage2.  Portage gives 
you the ability to rebuild *every* single package if you choose.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
A stage3 install has most of the benefits of a stage1 or stage2.  Portage 
gives you the ability to rebuild *every* single package if you choose.


And like the binary distributions, it's targeted towards the generic 386, 
not the pentium class machines we're all using (at least it was the last 
time I checked, but it might have changed since then).


So, like I said, it is just like using another binary distribution.

And if you use a stage 3 and rebuild every package, it's not that different 
than starting from a stage 1 or 2, is it?


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Re: [gentoo-user] mail program

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 18:09 +0100, Rupert Young wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm new to this list and to gentoo.
 
 After installation I'd expected to see programs available that were present
 in UNIX systems I have used. For example, the program 'mail'.
 
 Is it necessary to install such as these separately, and if so, where can I
 get it?
 
 Regards,
  
 Rupert 


emerge mailx

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[gentoo-user] after emerge -Du world date can't keep time

2005-09-11 Thread maxim wexler
Hello everybody,

After emerge --deep --update world I compiled and
installed the new kernel, 2.6.12-gentoo-r10, then I
noticed that no matter when I boot the system, date
always starts marking time at 6:00 AM, although it
gets the date and zone right. No matter what time
string I give to date(as root), after a re-boot it
alway replies with 6AM plus whatever time has elapsed
since the original boot. FWIW rtc support is compiled
as a module and is *not* currently loaded. Also, the
BIOS clk is correct.

-mw




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Re: [gentoo-user] mail program

2005-09-11 Thread Martin S
You've found one of the features that makes Gentoo different :)

Martin S



Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread John Jolet
On Sunday 11 September 2005 13:12, Dave Nebinger wrote:
  Note that the 2005.1 handbook mentions only the stage3 and not stage1 or
  stage2.  Installation from the lower stages is more error prone and best
  avoided.

 Hardly.  Starting from a stage 3 is like starting from any old binary
 distribution.

see below
 Starting from stage 1  2 allows you to build a box customized from the
 ground up optimized for your hardware (assuming you've set the cflags
 correctly before beginning).

 IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build time
 for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order to have a
 basic working gentoo system in a short timeframe.
I'm not sure where you get this from, since X and kde/gnome  aren't IN a 
stage-3 tarball.  As I stated before, iterative testing with several binary 
distros and a stage-3 gentoo on this here laptop have shown that, even 
starting with stage-3, gentoo is faster and more efficient.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick schreef:
 On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:58:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
 
 
 // start quote
 
 Building the System
 
 To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system. //
  end quote
 
 So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
 
 
 When BUILDING THE SYSTEM. This thread was all about rebuilding the 
 system, which is a completely different, and usually unnecessary, 
 process.
 

No, Neil, this thread (or the original issue, at least), is occurring
during the initial install process:

 Hi list,
 
 as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work 
 (started ``emerge --emptytree system'' in the morning).
 

... because he's following the (old?) Handbook, which does say to use
--emptytree, although we don't quite know why.

But Frank also says:

 I'd be glad for every hint. Waiting for fixage isn't an option.

So possibly we might consider using our expertise to actually help the
guy, in case anyone might happen to know why he's getting this breakage
during his inital installation, rather than arguing about whether he
should be using --emptytree or not, especially since-- as the system is
not yet installed, it doesn't matter if it's explicitly stated or not,
because he's essentially doing an emptytree-- *not* doing an emerge -e
is not likely to solve/mitigate the issue, which is apparently that
automake is trying to install before its dependency (autoconf), for
unknown reasons.

Holly


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Dave Nebinger

Starting from stage 1  2 allows you to build a box customized from the
ground up optimized for your hardware (assuming you've set the cflags
correctly before beginning).

IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build time
for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order to have a
basic working gentoo system in a short timeframe.

I'm not sure where you get this from, since X and kde/gnome  aren't IN a
stage-3 tarball.


Oops, my bad.  Shows how many stage-3 installs I've done ;-)


As I stated before, iterative testing with several binary
distros and a stage-3 gentoo on this here laptop have shown that, even
starting with stage-3, gentoo is faster and more efficient.


I wasn't questioning whether gentoo would be faster and/or more efficient 
than the other binary distros.


My point was that, for the most part, saying start with stage 3 is like 
saying use a binary distrib.  With stage 3 you're starting with 
precompiled binaries that are built targeting someone else's hardware, not 
your own. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 07:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi Nick,
I know it's unlikely, but one other possibility is the sound card
 itself. A number of my RME cards (Hammerfall, HDSP 9652) actually have
 no mixer elements, meaning they cannot be controlled by Alsamixer,

alsamixer and alsamixer-gui both work fine.

  and
 so I get the same messages even though the cards work fine with
 mplayer, etc. I somehow doubt this is your case but it doesn't hurt to
 point out that this message can be normal.
 
Are you attempting to run the Gnome sound server? If there a
 conflict happening there?

I dunno, is that the one called esd? mplayer -ao esd works.

 
What sound hardware are you running?
 
 lspci
 cat /proc/asound/cards
 

some poxy thing onboard the motherboard:

0 [rev50  ]: VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50
 VIA 82C686A/B rev50 with ICE1232 at 0xcc00, irq 10

I  am 95% sure that gnome-volume control worked at some stage.



 Good luck,
 Mark
 
 On 9/10/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  When I log into gnome I get a dialog with the following message:
  
  Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found
  
  Advcie from google and forums.g.o seems to point to the following likely
  solutions:
  
  1. make sure user has ability to do audio - yes I can, and everything I
  run in gnome produces audio output when it should (mplayer, xmms,
  mpg123, xine, whatever)
  
  2. run gst-register-0.8 - done it, more than once. Doesn't complain
  about any problems, but makes no difference even after a reboot.
  
  Thats about a summary of the suggested fixes and the results. I figured
  that the error seemed to be on running gnome-volume-control, so when i
  run it from an xterm I get the following:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/torrents/nick $ gnome-volume-control
  
  ** (gnome-volume-control:19921): CRITICAL **: how to remove plugins?
  
  (gnome-volume-control:19921): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Factory for
  `ossmixer' has no type. This probably means the plugin wasn't found
  because the registry is broken. The plugin GStreamer was looking for is
  named 'ossaudio' and is expected in file
  '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstossaudio.so'. The registry for this plugin
  is located at '/var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml'
  
  ** (gnome-volume-control:19921): CRITICAL **: how to remove plugins?
  
  (gnome-volume-control:19921): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: Factory for
  `alsamixer' has no type. This probably means the plugin wasn't found
  because the registry is broken. The plugin GStreamer was looking for is
  named 'alsa' and is expected in file
  '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstalsa.so'. The registry for this plugin is
  located at '/var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml'
  
  
  OK well it looks like something is missing. I though gst-register-0.8
  was supposed to sort all that out.
  
  What am I missing or what do I do to fix this? Can I safely
  delete /var/lib/cache/gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml and re-run the register
  program and see if that makes a difference? Or will i break something?
  
  
  As sound is in fact working in all apps I use, its not such a worry,
  just a sign that something is broken, and if something is broken it may
  get worse down the track.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Zac Medico
Dave Nebinger wrote:
 A stage3 install has most of the benefits of a stage1 or stage2. 
 Portage gives you the ability to rebuild *every* single package if you
 choose.
 
 
 And like the binary distributions, it's targeted towards the generic
 386, not the pentium class machines we're all using (at least it was the
 last time I checked, but it might have changed since then).
 

Actually, the catalyst documentation states that an x86 stage1 is supposed to 
be targeted towards the generic 386.  This makes it possible to derive more 
specialized stages (stage2 and stage3) from it.  Normally, there is a 
specialized stage3 hosted on the mirrors for each major subarch (586, 686, 
athon, etc...).

 So, like I said, it is just like using another binary distribution.

Portage gives you the ability to rebuild *every* single package in a more 
flexible way than any binary distribution that I know of.

 
 And if you use a stage 3 and rebuild every package, it's not that
 different than starting from a stage 1 or 2, is it?
 

Except that a stage3 is less error prone.

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Re: [gentoo-user] halt hibernate on usermode

2005-09-11 Thread Mateusz Maciaś
On 9/10/05, Paweł Madej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I try to resolve such a problem:
 
 I can halt my computer only if i login to root console and do # halt
 
 User on which i work is in wheel group but i cannot do halt from it
 
 How to make it possible to halt from wheel group user?
 
 And the same thing on # hibernate
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Paul

Maybe this will help:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Let_a_common_user_shutdown/reboot




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Re: [gentoo-user] Failing to unmerge old PHP package

2005-09-11 Thread Goeran Zängerlein

Hello *,

problem solved, as described here: 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=233020highlight=php+eclass


regards,
Goeran


Hello *,

for some reason I have an old, unneeded PHP package floating around 
(dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2). When trying to remove it via 'emerge -v 
depclean' I get the following error message:


---snip---
QA Notice: ECLASS 'php' inherited illegally in dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2

/usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1443: 
/usr/portage/eclass/php.eclass: No such file or directory


!!! ERROR: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.2 failed.
!!! Function inherit, Line 1444, Exitcode 1
!!! died sourcing /usr/portage/eclass/php.eclass in inherit()
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.


!!! FAILED prerm: 1
---snap---

I get the same error when using 'emerge --unmerge dev-php/mod_php'

It would be great, if someone could tell me of how to get rid of this 
package. Thanks a lot!


regards,
Goeran





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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/11/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 07:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  Hi Nick,
 I know it's unlikely, but one other possibility is the sound card
  itself. A number of my RME cards (Hammerfall, HDSP 9652) actually have
  no mixer elements, meaning they cannot be controlled by Alsamixer,
 
 alsamixer and alsamixer-gui both work fine.
 
   and
  so I get the same messages even though the cards work fine with
  mplayer, etc. I somehow doubt this is your case but it doesn't hurt to
  point out that this message can be normal.
 
 Are you attempting to run the Gnome sound server? If there a
  conflict happening there?
 
 I dunno, is that the one called esd? mplayer -ao esd works.

Yes, I beleive that esd is the 'Enlightenment Sound Daemon' which is
somehow part of Gnome. (You know me, always guessing...) Anyway, I
think that somehow that is getting in your way.

I do not run ESD and then alsamixer works fine for my on-board type
sound chips. It never does anything for my sound cards as they all use
card specific mixers. (hdspmixer or envycontrol) Try not starting the
sound daemon. There a menu entry in the Desktop-Preferences-Sound
entry.

Note that this may effect Gnome type sounds, e.g. bells and
whistles...which I don't use.

Also, look at rc-update show and see if esound is somehow set to
start. I do not run that at boot time either.

I just noticed that with my on-board NVidia sound chip that if I
double clicked the volume control (which I guess oyu don't have right
now...) that I got a little GUI mixer that shoed me that PCM was
disabled on that chip. This means (I think) that if I would have used
it but tried to get digital audio I wouldn't have gotten any sound so
when you get your volume control working make sure that you double
check PCM audio as I think you'll want that working.

 
 
 What sound hardware are you running?
 
  lspci
  cat /proc/asound/cards
 
 
 some poxy thing onboard the motherboard:
 
 0 [rev50  ]: VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50
  VIA 82C686A/B rev50 with ICE1232 at 0xcc00, irq 10

Yeah, it's an onboard thing and apparently the only sound processor in
the system. alsamixer should work with that. Possibly either PCM or
some other control you can see in alsamixer is muted. That will also
cause the volume control to not work in Gnome I think...

Sorry about so much guessing...

 
 I  am 95% sure that gnome-volume control worked at some stage.

I'll bet it did.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Nick Rout schreef:
 When I log into gnome I get a dialog with the following message:
 
 Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found
 
 Advcie from google and forums.g.o seems to point to the following 
 likely solutions:
 
 1. make sure user has ability to do audio - yes I can, and everything
  I run in gnome produces audio output when it should (mplayer, xmms,
  mpg123, xine, whatever)
 
 2. run gst-register-0.8 - done it, more than once. Doesn't complain 
 about any problems, but makes no difference even after a reboot.
 
 Thats about a summary of the suggested fixes and the results. I 
 figured that the error seemed to be on running gnome-volume-control, 
 so when i run it from an xterm I get the following:

I would suggest:

Open the GNOME control panel and check the following settings:

Sound: Is enable sound system on startup checked or not? Just note,
for the time being.

If it is set, then you likely need to check rc-update show, to make sure
the esound service is started.
This will route everything GNOME through the esd sound server. This may
or may not be how you want to run it.

If it is not set, then everything should be running through ALSA-- but
GNOME may not be prepared to deal with that, as it expects to run ESD.

You can either 'fix' GNOME so it runs through ALSA, or you can run ESD.

If you want to 'fix' GNOME, go to Multimedia systems' and basically
screw around with the audio sinks until you can get test sounds from
both tests. On my system, this requires that the standard output and
standard source be set to OSS (Alsa seems to hang or crash, but since I
have ALSA OSS emulation on, I don't worry about it, because it's still
using ALSA anyway).

Then turn off esd (rc-update del esound default).

Log out and in, and hopefully GNOME should now use the ALSA (OSS) devices.

If you want to use ESD, then in the Multimedia section, set the output
and source to ESD, and make sure that esound is running in rc-update (if
it is not already running, then try starting it with /etc/init.d/esound
start). Make sure that the 'enable sound server at startup' is set in
the Sound panel, log out and back in, and ESD should work.

Oh, and whatever route you choose, you probably want to remove the mixer
from your panel, then re-add it to prevent other panel weirdnesses that
seem to occur when you have to do this (which you always do, because the
gnome-mixer-applet is apparently so stupid that it can't detect the
environment properly; I've never had it work out-of-the-box. Ever. And
I've been using GNOME for quite a while).

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Nick Rout

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:59:53 +0200
Holly Bostick wrote:

 Nick Rout schreef:
  When I log into gnome I get a dialog with the following message:
  
  Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found
  
  Advcie from google and forums.g.o seems to point to the following 
  likely solutions:
  
  1. make sure user has ability to do audio - yes I can, and everything
   I run in gnome produces audio output when it should (mplayer, xmms,
   mpg123, xine, whatever)
  
  2. run gst-register-0.8 - done it, more than once. Doesn't complain 
  about any problems, but makes no difference even after a reboot.
  
  Thats about a summary of the suggested fixes and the results. I 
  figured that the error seemed to be on running gnome-volume-control, 
  so when i run it from an xterm I get the following:
 
 I would suggest:
 
 Open the GNOME control panel and check the following settings:
 
 Sound: Is enable sound system on startup checked or not? Just note,
 for the time being.
 
 If it is set, then you likely need to check rc-update show, to make sure
 the esound service is started.
 This will route everything GNOME through the esd sound server. This may
 or may not be how you want to run it.
 
 If it is not set, then everything should be running through ALSA-- but
 GNOME may not be prepared to deal with that, as it expects to run ESD.
 
 You can either 'fix' GNOME so it runs through ALSA, or you can run ESD.
 
 If you want to 'fix' GNOME, go to Multimedia systems' and basically
 screw around with the audio sinks until you can get test sounds from
 both tests. On my system, this requires that the standard output and
 standard source be set to OSS (Alsa seems to hang or crash, but since I
 have ALSA OSS emulation on, I don't worry about it, because it's still
 using ALSA anyway).
 
 Then turn off esd (rc-update del esound default).
 
 Log out and in, and hopefully GNOME should now use the ALSA (OSS) devices.
 
 If you want to use ESD, then in the Multimedia section, set the output
 and source to ESD, and make sure that esound is running in rc-update (if
 it is not already running, then try starting it with /etc/init.d/esound
 start). Make sure that the 'enable sound server at startup' is set in
 the Sound panel, log out and back in, and ESD should work.
 
 Oh, and whatever route you choose, you probably want to remove the mixer
 from your panel, then re-add it to prevent other panel weirdnesses that
 seem to occur when you have to do this (which you always do, because the
 gnome-mixer-applet is apparently so stupid that it can't detect the
 environment properly; I've never had it work out-of-the-box. Ever. And
 I've been using GNOME for quite a while).

Thank you Holly, this looks very thorough, and I'll look into it again
tonight at home. 

I am a recent gnome convert, quite enjoying a change from kde and xfce. 

One thing, how do I remove the mixer from the panel when it doesn't show up on 
the panel (due to terminating with my original error message as
the panel is starting). 

Thanks.

 
 Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:25:40 -0400 Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| It may be simpler to look at 
| http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html for the

Except that it's oh so very wrong...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:30:45 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:

 And if you use a stage 3 and rebuild every package, it's not that
 different than starting from a stage 1 or 2, is it?

There's one major difference, the system is available for use in around
an hour. Rebuilding after the system is working means you can still get
on with using the computer at the same time.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:15:46 -0500, John Jolet wrote:

  IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build
  time for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order
  to have a basic working gentoo system in a short timeframe.

 I'm not sure where you get this from, since X and kde/gnome  aren't IN
 a stage-3 tarball.

No, but they are on the GRP package CDs that accompany each release.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:16:23 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:

 No, Neil, this thread (or the original issue, at least), is occurring
 during the initial install process:

Whoops, my mistake. This comes up so often it's easy to get the threads
muddled up :(

 So possibly we might consider using our expertise to actually help the
 guy, in case anyone might happen to know why he's getting this breakage
 during his inital installation, rather than arguing about whether he
 should be using --emptytree or not,

Hasn't this already been covered early in the thread? Run fix_libtool.sh
to fix the error then do emerge --resume to carry on.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread John Jolet
On Sunday 11 September 2005 16:57, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:15:46 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
   IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build
   time for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order
   to have a basic working gentoo system in a short timeframe.
 
  I'm not sure where you get this from, since X and kde/gnome  aren't IN
  a stage-3 tarball.

 No, but they are on the GRP package CDs that accompany each release.
yes, but there's no requirement to use grp packages with a stage-3.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Holly Bostick
Nick Rout schreef:
 On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:59:53 +0200 Holly Bostick wrote:
 
 Oh, and whatever route you choose, you probably want to remove the 
 mixer from your panel, then re-add it to prevent other panel 
 weirdnesses that seem to occur when you have to do this (which you 
 always do, because the gnome-mixer-applet is apparently so stupid 
 that it can't detect the environment properly; I've never had it 
 work out-of-the-box. Ever. And I've been using GNOME for quite a 
 while).
 
 
 Thank you Holly, this looks very thorough, and I'll look into it 
 again tonight at home.
 
 I am a recent gnome convert, quite enjoying a change from kde and 
 xfce.
 
 One thing, how do I remove the mixer from the panel when it doesn't 
 show up on the panel (due to terminating with my original error 
 message as the panel is starting).

OK, that's a bit weird; in my experience it usually complains that it
can't find any devices (or can't use them, or whatever), but the little
(useless) speaker does appear on the panel.

In your case, you have a few options.

One is if the error message asks you if you want to remove the applet
from your configuration, say yes. Done.

You could also just destroy the entire panel,  then create a new one,
and that would also solve the problem.

The most complex, but probably most complete solution would be to go
into gconf-editor and remove it there; I see the mixer in apps= panel=
default_setup and apps= panel= general = applet_id_list. You may also
find it in apps= panel=applets.

Unfortunately, I can't say which of the default options would be the
correct one to remove (unless it was in apps= panel=applets, which are
self-added, generally), as I've never had the mixer totally not
appearing, just being broken, so I was always able to right-click and
remove it.

You might also try the failsafe session (see my previous post on
gnome-panel earlier today) to see if there's a zombie process that
prevents the applet from appearing. Afaik, that's the usual reason that
something like this would happen (the restart instance of this or any
program is not appearing because a zombie process is still active from
the last instance, so the program/applet/whatever thinks it's still
running thus does not start a new instance).

HTH,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] cdrdao woes

2005-09-11 Thread David Busby

List,
  I'm trying to make copies of my bands CDs with little success.  I've done this before but have since switched 
hardware and upgraded my kernel.  I want to use cdrdao (which I used before) but it currently stops with no error 
message and exit code ($?) 1.  cdrecord can see my DVD drive attached to my IDE channel.  Here's my output:


carbon ~ # cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.33
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'MATSHITA' 'DVD-RAM SW-9585 ' 'B100' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *


cdrdao scanbus shows nothing!:
carbon ~ # cdrdao scanbus
Cdrdao version 1.2.0 - (C) Andreas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SCSI interface library - (C) Joerg Schilling
  Paranoia DAE library - (C) Monty

Check http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html#dt for current driver tables.

Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'

My kernel was booted with this setting: hdc=ide-scsi, I read to do set that in 
the kernel help under make menuconfig.
I also want to be able to burn UDF/data DVDs with this thing too, but music first.  I've looked at the HowTos on the 
Gentoo WIKI but those haven't helped, and I'm trying everything as root so I don't think permissions are involved.


I've tried to re-emerge cdrtools and cdrdao without success.

Any ideas where to go next?

/djb

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Re: [gentoo-user] after emerge -Du world date can't keep time

2005-09-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:59:58AM -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
 After emerge --deep --update world I compiled and
 installed the new kernel, 2.6.12-gentoo-r10, then I
 noticed that no matter when I boot the system, date
 always starts marking time at 6:00 AM, although it
 gets the date and zone right. No matter what time
 string I give to date(as root), after a re-boot it
 alway replies with 6AM plus whatever time has elapsed
 since the original boot. FWIW rtc support is compiled
 as a module and is *not* currently loaded. Also, the
 BIOS clk is correct.
 
 -mw
 

hum, run 
  rc-status boot
is clock started?

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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrdao woes

2005-09-11 Thread Dave Nebinger
My kernel was booted with this setting: hdc=ide-scsi, I read to do set 
that in the kernel help under make menuconfig.
I also want to be able to burn UDF/data DVDs with this thing too, but 
music first.  I've looked at the HowTos on the Gentoo WIKI but those 
haven't helped, and I'm trying everything as root so I don't think 
permissions are involved.


I've tried to re-emerge cdrtools and cdrdao without success.

Any ideas where to go next?


Sure, remove the hdc=ide-scsi option, reboot, then use the device path 
directly for IDE burning.


In your case it's probably something like:

 dev=/dev/hdc

I do all of my burning using IDE directly, even though Schily's tools whine 
about it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome complains about no mixer elements and/or device on login

2005-09-11 Thread Nick Rout

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:32:38 +0200
Holly Bostick wrote:


 
 HTH,
 Holly

I'm sure it will help. I see a current emerge -uD world is compiling a
whole lot of new gnome-related packages. I'll see if that results in any
change and then try your suggestions. I'm sure I'll learn more about
gnome as I go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Nick Rout

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:12:51 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

 On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:58, Mark Shields wrote:
  From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:
 
  // start quote
 
  Building the System
 
   To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system. Then
   go do something to keep your mind busy, because this step takes a
  long time to  complete.
 
 
  Code Listing 22: Building the System
  # emerge --emptytree system
 
 
 
   Again, if you haven't touched the default CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
  setting, using --newuse is sufficient.
 
  //  end quote
 
  So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
  unless you haven't changed the defalt CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, in which case
  you can just use the --newuse in place of --emptytree.
 
 
 and this one:
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
 
 does not talk about --emptytree at all, so which one is correct?
 
 (btw, when I installed my gentoo --emptytree was totally not needed.)

Well it seems to me that doc does not deal with a stage 1 or stage 2
install, I haven't read every word, but I can't find any reference to
bootstrap.

So its irrelevant.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrdao woes

2005-09-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 04:03:18PM -0700, David Busby wrote:
 My kernel was booted with this setting: hdc=ide-scsi, I read to do set that 
 in the kernel help under make menuconfig.
 I also want to be able to burn UDF/data DVDs with this thing too, but music 
 first.  I've looked at the HowTos on the Gentoo WIKI but those haven't 
 helped, and I'm trying everything as root so I don't think permissions are 
 involved.
 
 I've tried to re-emerge cdrtools and cdrdao without success.
 
 Any ideas where to go next?
 
I've never used DVD writers, but for CD-writers, since the 2.6 series,
IDE burners can use the ATAPI transport layer. So perhaps you can try
NOT using ide-scsi? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Nick Rout

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:15:58 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:

   No, but they are on the GRP package CDs that accompany each release.
 
  yes, but there's no requirement to use grp packages with a stage-3.
 
 There is if you're using stage 3 as quoted above.

what have you been smoking Neil? A stage 3 install just means you have a 
biggish tarball at the start and it installs a very basic working system
ready to comile on. You still do your own kernel and you can EITHER use
GRP packages OR compile them yourself. Soem people prefer to use GRP and stage 
3 to get a working system and then add or change packages later.
At least they then have a gui and can read their email and peruse
bugzilla/forums/wiki (OK I know you can do all those things in a console
too)

You can also use the GRP packages if you started from stage 1. They are
simply pre-compiled with a pre-defined set of USE flags, and a set of
CFLAGS for their architecture.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Crute
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:25:40 -0400 Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:| It may be simpler to look at| 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread Nick Rout

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:45:26 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:58:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
 
  // start quote
  
  Building the System  
  
   To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system.
  //  end quote
  
  So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
 
 When BUILDING THE SYSTEM. This thread was all about rebuilding the
 system, which is a completely different, and usually unnecessary, process.

No its not, do I have to quote the original poster:

quote 

Hi list,

as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work
(started ``emerge --emptytree system'' in the morning).

/quote

 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for Lost Labyrinth

2005-09-11 Thread Markus Döbele
Hallo Nick,

looks good.

The next release 1.1.1 will only be a bug fix release.
So this (1.1.0) is a good version for a release I think!

Markus


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 Von: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Betreff: Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for Lost Labyrinth
 Datum: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:59:18 +1200
 
 
 On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 23:16:29 +1200
 Nick Rout wrote:
 [snip]
 
 
  Please report any errors in use of the ebuild. This time I really am
  going to post it to bugs.gentoo.org, its just that Markus keeps
  delivering new versions.
  
  In particular please make sure highscores works, I am no games player
  and can't get into the highscores table to check it works!
 
 I have now crerated a bug which _should_ result in this making it to
 portage one day sometime.
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104971
 
 
 *Please* report successes and failures with the ebuild on the above bug.
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 01:06:54AM -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote

 I don't necessarily agree with using -* in your USE flags, simply
 because I think the USE flags in the /etc/make.conf are meant to
 enhance the builds with options you plan on using.  Default USE
 flags, as identified by the developers, typically are limited to
 those components that the package needs to function correctly.
 
 And for those things that you really don't want to have, you can
 always specify the negative USE flag, i.e. -gnome to totally
 disable gnome (which is what I use).
 
 Using -* basically says that you know better than the developers,
 which is a position I wouldn't want to take...

  One size does not fit all.  Default flags have been a pet peeve of
mine since the ipv6 fiasco.

 Otherwise the content was fine, but it makes me wonder why it would be 
 necessary.  New folks migrating to Gentoo are going to use the handbook, 
 and I don't believe the handbook tells them to enable 
 framebuffer/bootsplash, etc.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part1_chap10

suggests that it's OK, specifically the sentences...

 But before we install one of these two bootloaders, we inform you
 how to configure framebuffer (assuming you want it of course). With
 framebuffer you can run the Linux command line with (limited)
 graphical features (such as using the nice bootsplash image Gentoo
 provides).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:00:17AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
 On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:43:01 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
 
1) In /etc/make.conf set the following entry...
  MAKEOPTS=-j1
   Do *NOT*, I repeat, do *NOT* use higher numbers.  You are begging
  for problems if you do so.
 
 This is a blanket statement that will only slow down compiles for
 a lot of people that use higher numbers with no problems. I use j2
 on three different boxes and I don't recall a single problem on any
 of them.

  I can compromise by giving people a choice between...

  a) Run the safe setting -j1

  b) Run a with a higher value.  If a compile blows up on you, try it
again with -j1 before reporting a bug or asking for help.

  I start up my big emerges just before going to bed, or just before
going to work in the morning.  They're usually ready by the time I get
back to the computer.  Actually, maybe that idea should be part of my
hintsg.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ideas for a mini-FAQ/HOWTO

2005-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:25:40AM -0400, Michael Crute wrote

 It may be simpler to look at 
 http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html for the cflags for 
 the processor. 

  Yikes!!!  Let's just say that I strongly disagree with them.

  1) I do not consider -O3 to be safe.  Back a few years ago in my
Redhat days, I did my first custom compiles with the Mozilla 0.95 (*NOT*
Firefox 0.95) sources.  The thing that drove me to learn was that the
standard Mozilla 0.95 build was excruciatingly slow on a 433 mhz PIII
with 128 megs of RAM.  When I built with -O3, the resulting program
would usually segfault on startup or soon thereafter.  With -O2, Mozilla
0.95 was stable and was almost reasonably fast.

  2) They miss mmx, sse, sse2, sse3, 3dnow, and mfpmath=sse, which are a
lot safer than O3.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nasty bugs in portage?

2005-09-11 Thread John Jolet
On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:

  yes, but there's no requirement to use grp packages with a stage-3.

 There is if you're using stage 3 as quoted above.
No, there isn't.  This laptop was built with a stage 3 tarball, everything 
else was compiled from source.  I know because I watched kde build for 16 
hours.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 and hibernate problem.

2005-09-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng
 -Original Message-
 From: Pawel Madej [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've done so but system behaviour did not changed. Any other 
 suggestions?

I think there was a bug in recent 2.6.13 kernels.
IIRC there should be a fix in the APCI method calls included in maybe -r5 or
-r6 in portage.

I can't remember, since my laptop died, waiting for replacement Motherboard.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 and hibernate problem.

2005-09-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng


 -Original Message-
 From: Pawel Madej [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:09 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 and hibernate problem.
 
 
 I've done so but system behaviour did not changed. Any other 
 suggestions?

This reportedly worked for some other user

Try this patch -
http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/patches-2.6.13/suspend2-2.2-rc6-poweroff-fix.diff


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RE: [gentoo-user] Multiple Displays nVida vs Radeon... take TWO

2005-09-11 Thread Ow Mun Heng

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I actually got mine working pretty happily.  It connected to the
 projector today and worked with no problems.

  Section ServerLayout
  Identifier X.org Configured
  Screen Screen0 0 0
  InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
  InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
  # Uncommenting this will enable Dual Head
  #   Screen Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
  # This will enable separate displays for Dual Head.
  #   Option  Clone Off
  # Do you want Xinerama??
  #   Option  Xinerama On

Glad that it helped.


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Re: [gentoo-user] after emerge -Du world date can't keep time

2005-09-11 Thread maxim wexler


--- Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:59:58AM -0700, maxim
 wexler wrote:
  Hello everybody,
  
  After emerge --deep --update world I compiled and
  installed the new kernel, 2.6.12-gentoo-r10, then
 I
  noticed that no matter when I boot the system,
 date
  always starts marking time at 6:00 AM, although it
  gets the date and zone right. No matter what time
  string I give to date(as root), after a re-boot it
  alway replies with 6AM plus whatever time has
 elapsed
  since the original boot. FWIW rtc support is
 compiled
  as a module and is *not* currently loaded. Also,
 the
  BIOS clk is correct.
  
  -mw
  
 
 hum, run 
   rc-status boot
 is clock started?
 

yup

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-11 Thread Martin S
2005/9/7, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
x11-themes/gtk-engines-qt...

Haven't tried that. I'll give it a look. I do think it is problem
though that you will have such very different standards as to how
applications are supposed to work between WMs/DEs (just take file
management).


Regards,Martin S


Re: [gentoo-user] cdrdao woes

2005-09-11 Thread David Busby

Dave Nebinger wrote:
My kernel was booted with this setting: hdc=ide-scsi, I read to do set 


Sure, remove the hdc=ide-scsi option, reboot, then use the device path 
directly for IDE burning.


In your case it's probably something like:

 dev=/dev/hdc

I do all of my burning using IDE directly, even though Schily's tools 
whine about it.




Ok, so I removed that foolishness from my kernel bootline and rebooted.
When I run cdrdao with scanbus I get this:

carbon ~ # cdrdao scanbus
Cdrdao version 1.2.0 - (C) Andreas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SCSI interface library - (C) Joerg Schilling
  Paranoia DAE library - (C) Monty

Check http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html#dt for current driver tables.

Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'

ATA:1,0,0MATSHITA, DVD-RAM SW-9585 , B100


But this:
carbon ~ # cdrdao write --device ATA:1,0,0 --reload --force cp_csp.cdtoc
Cdrdao version 1.2.0 - (C) Andreas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SCSI interface library - (C) Joerg Schilling
  Paranoia DAE library - (C) Monty

Check http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html#dt for current driver tables.

Still simply exits with a status of 1, what is going on?  I've looked in the logs and don't see anything and I'm still 
stuck :(


/djb

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[gentoo-user] ntpd timezone

2005-09-11 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I'm new to Gentoo.  I've built a system based on the 2.6-11 kernel and 
everything has been working fine.  Some time passed and I thought it a 
good idea to update.  Thus I ran emerge -uvD world to update.  Then I 
ran etc-update to merge the conf files.  I basically accepted 
replacement of conf files I didn't think I'd changed and merged the ones 
I did change.  However, now ntpd seems to make my time about 8 hours 
behind my local time.  I am on PDT.  I suspect ntpd is seeing PDT as GMT 
and then the system is subtracting the 8 hours.  What file(s) should I 
look at to get things back to normal?


Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntpd timezone

2005-09-11 Thread Mark Shields
What does 

ls -ln /etc/localtime

return?On 9/12/05, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm new to Gentoo.I've built a system based on the 2.6-11 kernel andeverything has been working fine.Some time passed and I thought it agood idea to update.Thus I ran emerge -uvD world to update.Then I
ran etc-update to merge the conf files.I basically acceptedreplacement of conf files I didn't think I'd changed and merged the onesI did change.However, now ntpd seems to make my time about 8 hoursbehind my local time.I am on PDT.I suspect ntpd is seeing PDT as GMT
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Re: [gentoo-user] after emerge -Du world date can't keep time

2005-09-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:41:31PM -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:59:58AM -0700, maxim
  wexler wrote:
   Hello everybody,
   
   After emerge --deep --update world I compiled and
   installed the new kernel, 2.6.12-gentoo-r10, then
  I
   noticed that no matter when I boot the system,
  date
   always starts marking time at 6:00 AM, although it
   gets the date and zone right. No matter what time
   string I give to date(as root), after a re-boot it
   alway replies with 6AM plus whatever time has
  elapsed
   since the original boot. FWIW rtc support is
  compiled
   as a module and is *not* currently loaded. Also,
  the
   BIOS clk is correct.
   
   -mw
   
  
  hum, run 
rc-status boot
  is clock started?
  
 
 yup

what about the output from hwclock? run it as root, does it give the
same time/date as date?

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