Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 07:27 +, Stroller wrote:
 On 31 Jan 2006, at 01:03, Grant wrote:
 
  Hello!  I've heard that data can be recovered from a formatted hard
  disk.
 
 Yes, it's fairly trivial, for someone who cares enough to try, to  
 retrieve data from a disk that's merely been formatted. Although I've  
 never tried to do so myself I regularly `shred /dev/hda` on  
 customers' scrap PCs (see `info shred`) and a data recovery  
 specialist last year offered to return 17gigs worth of data from a  
 hard drive that had died containing only 8 gigs of files.

I once deleted my partition table, created new partitions over the top
(different sizes) but I _didn't _ run mkfs on any of it.  I was able to
use a tool to see where old partition boundaries were, and I recovered
all the data intact :)  It was many hours of farting around, but I did
it :)

If you use ext3, it is hard to recover the data, sure you could use grep
over /dev/hda, but you don't know where the pieces are.  If you're happy
to put a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle back together, then go for it.

If you shred or wipe the data (run random data over the disk many
times, with a bit of magic formulas thrown in) then apparently the FBI /
CIA / KGB / WTFC has a magnetic data recovery tool to see what bit was
written before the current bit (don't ask me how).

So, it depends what you mean by format, and who has the time / money to
bother trying to recover it.

I've heard of government departments filing down the old HD's into
little pieces, then mixing them in cement for the next building project.
Could be an urban legend though.

All of the above is subject to my own bad memory :)
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[gentoo-user] Re: NIC setup? slow transfer speed

2006-01-31 Thread Remy Blank
Stuart Howard wrote:
 OK well I give up

I did, too...

 Transfer 39Mb file from
 gentoo - XP share using winXP copy trans time =5 mins [gentoo smb
 directory to XP share dir ie. XP shared dir Not mounted]

I have a similar situation here, but with an additional interesting
observation. If I copy a file from WinXP to an SMB share on a Gentoo
server with the XP explorer, I get about 2MB/s throughput, which is not
all too much on a 100Mb/s network. However, if I run the following
command in the background (eth0 being the interface over which I copy):

  tcpdump -n -i eth0 /dev/null

the throughput increases to about 8-10MB/s!

I have no idea where this could come from. The only explanation I can
see is that tcpdump puts eth0 into a sort of promiscuous mode, which
interacts favorably in the SMB protocol. But I haven't been able to
figure out how I should tune eth0 to get the same results without tcpdump.

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[gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-01-31 Thread Paul
Hi all,
I am using kmail version 1.8.3 using KDE 3.4.3 and am experiencing multiple 
deletes. I click on the waste bin icon to delete the current read message and 
read the next one.  Sometime I miss reading a message because 2 have been 
deleted instead of 1.  This happens quite often, also sometimes when I select 
a message to read a duplicate copy appears in a new window.
Is anybody else having this sort of problem?
Has anybody been able to fix this?
Any help would be appreciated.
Paul
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[gentoo-user] Autofs problem 4.1.3-r4

2006-01-31 Thread Paulo J. Matos
Hi all,

having a terrible problem with autofs which I already had a couple
months ago (wierd isn't fixed). When I start autofs I get:
/home/usr/bin/automount: option -t requires a numeric argument, got,
intr, nosuid,rsize=8192,wsize=8192.

I was able to solve it at some point but now I can't remember how I
did it. Does anyone know?

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-01-31 Thread Javier Payno
Hi

Have you read this thread? [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??

El Martes, 31 de Enero de 2006 11:20, Paul escribió:
 Hi all,
 I am using kmail version 1.8.3 using KDE 3.4.3 and am experiencing multiple
 deletes. I click on the waste bin icon to delete the current read message
 and read the next one.  Sometime I miss reading a message because 2 have
 been deleted instead of 1.  This happens quite often, also sometimes when I
 select a message to read a duplicate copy appears in a new window.
 Is anybody else having this sort of problem?
 Has anybody been able to fix this?
 Any help would be appreciated.
 Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??(nearly resolved)
De: 
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (appjaws)
  Para: 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Fecha: 
Jueves 16:44:45
   
On Thursday 26 Jan 2006 12:58, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 1/26/06, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am going to try a PS2 mouse at least it might help isolate the problem

 You can also try running xev, and try some clicking in the xev window,
 which will show you want events X is generating to the clients.  If
 you see something like two button down or button up events, that could
 account for your double clicking.

I think I might have solved this problem. I have changed the xorg.conf mouse 
protocol from auto to PS/2.  The mouse is still connected to a USB port 
and now appears to work correctly.
How strange, perhaps Peter and Dale could try this and see if it solves their 
problem as well.

Ho wait my mouse wheel isn't working now - back to the drawing board

Paul
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[gentoo-user] Re: Hard setting additional search domains into DHCP-overwrited resolv.conf

2006-01-31 Thread reader
Marco Lazzeri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm sure enough I'm missing something, but I don't know where else I
 should look at. Any hints?

You didn't mention checking /etc/conf.d/domainname.

The first few lines in a stock one have this:

  # /etc/conf.d/domainname
  
  # When setting up resolv.conf, what should take precedence?
  # If you wish to always override DHCP/whatever, set this to 1.
  OVERRIDE=1

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0.0-r1: Can't load glx or via_drv module

2006-01-31 Thread Benno Schulenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried what you said, and now I'm get to a point where it fails
 due to circular references between libglx and libGLcore.

Which are those?  Do you have a 'Load GLcore' in your xorg.conf?  
If so, then remove it.  What does your xorg.conf look like now?

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0.0-r1: Can't load glx or via_drv module

2006-01-31 Thread ralpklm
On 1/31/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tried what you said, and now I'm get to a point where it fails
  due to circular references between libglx and libGLcore.

 Which are those?  Do you have a 'Load GLcore' in your xorg.conf?
 If so, then remove it.  What does your xorg.conf look like now?

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If I add the Load GLcore I get a undefined symbol for
__glX11(something I can't rember exactly, but it is a symbol in
libglx.so)
Without (or without) Load GLcore I get a failure on Load glx from
and undefined symbol glCallList which is provided in libGLcore.so

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Re: [gentoo-user] dead USB card?

2006-01-31 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Richard Fish wrote:


On 1/28/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Richard Fish wrote:


It looks like the ohci and ehci drivers are fighting over the card.
You don't need both, so I would disable ohci in your kernel
configuration and see if that works.


The card has 3 USB 1.1 sockets and a 2.0 one. Isn't it necessary to
enable ohci to access the 1.1 sockets?


Who designed this freakish thing...Dr Frankenstein???


Probably. Let's say that I'm always a good example of Murphy's laws.
(Did I mention that the 1.1 USB controllers built in the MO are _uhci_?
:))


Anyway, since I have no knowledge of this card, I could be wrong.  But
I would try either the ehci or ohci driver, but not both at the same
time.


Maybe there's something wrong with the motherboard, which is not young
anymore. The USB card is just not working, whether under gentoo or
knoppix. The card is not knew, and it worked before...
Maybe I'll try changing PCI slots...

(Sorry about the delay in replying, but my cable modem has been comatose
for a few days.)

Thanks,

Jorge Almeida
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote:



I've heard of government departments filing down the old HD's into
little pieces, then mixing them in cement for the next building project.
Could be an urban legend though.

All of the above is subject to my own bad memory :)
  


I have heard the same thing.  I have watched some of them on TV get data
off some unbelievable drives.  Some had bent platters, serious
scratches, been formatted a few times etc etc etc,   After all that,
they still got enough of what they wanted.  They put a chemical on one
and you could see the data with your eyes.  It looked like a round bar
code sort of.

Whatever you use, if it does it quickly, it ain't worth the time. 
Really erasing something and rewriting data over it takes a bit of
time.  That little light should be on a while.  I still wouldn't count
on it.  Shreading it and putting it in concrete may be a good idea. 
Maybe putting it in a MRI machine would help too.  I would leave the
room though.  O_O

Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  Named Smoker
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  
Named Swifty
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.  Named Pokey
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.  Named Putput

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 06:56 -0600, Dale wrote:
 Iain Buchanan wrote:
 
 
 
 I've heard of government departments filing down the old HD's into
 little pieces, then mixing them in cement for the next building project.
 Could be an urban legend though.
 
 All of the above is subject to my own bad memory :)
   
 
 
 I have heard the same thing.  I have watched some of them on TV get data
 off some unbelievable drives.  Some had bent platters, serious
 scratches, been formatted a few times etc etc etc,   After all that,
 they still got enough of what they wanted.  They put a chemical on one
 and you could see the data with your eyes.  It looked like a round bar
 code sort of.

hmm, sounds suspicious... It could have been some sort of serial number,
but if you could see it with your eye, it definitely wasn't 0's and 1's
of data.

Someone will know (I don't) what the density is on a modern platter.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard setting additional search domains into DHCP-overwrited resolv.conf

2006-01-31 Thread Schleimer, Ben
I too am interested in knowing how to do this.
 Theres no obvious place in /etc/config.d/net(work?) to set new search domains 
in resolv.conf
 if anyone can provide info on this, I'd appricate it.
 
 Thanks!
 Ben
 
 Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan
 


- Original Message 
From: Marco Lazzeri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Tue 31 Jan 2006 11:38:12 AM IST
Subject: [gentoo-user] Hard setting additional search domains into 
DHCP-overwrited resolv.conf

Hi,

I've been trying for a while to hard set additional search domains into
my '/etc/resolv.conf', but the 'dhcpcd' daemon keeps overwriting the
whole configuration at start.

I've been googling around and searching into bugs.gentoo.org. I've also
tried some kinds of settings from `man resolv.conf`: currently I'm
starting the `dhcpcd` service with '-R -N -Y' params and I've also
tried setting 'dhcpcd_eth0' into '/etc/conf.d/net' to 'nodns'. No way.

I'm sure enough I'm missing something, but I don't know where else I
should look at. Any hints?

Thank you,
Marco

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Schleimer, Ben
I understand that writing zeros over the file should permenately delete the 
data but couldn't the data be cached elsewhere on the drive, especially with 
journalling filesystems??
 
 Cheers,
 Ben
 
 Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan
 


- Original Message 
From: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Tue 31 Jan 2006 02:56:25 PM IST
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

Iain Buchanan wrote:



I've heard of government departments filing down the old HD's into
little pieces, then mixing them in cement for the next building project.
Could be an urban legend though.

All of the above is subject to my own bad memory :)
  


I have heard the same thing.  I have watched some of them on TV get data
off some unbelievable drives.  Some had bent platters, serious
scratches, been formatted a few times etc etc etc,   After all that,
they still got enough of what they wanted.  They put a chemical on one
and you could see the data with your eyes.  It looked like a round bar
code sort of.

Whatever you use, if it does it quickly, it ain't worth the time. 
Really erasing something and rewriting data over it takes a bit of
time.  That little light should be on a while.  I still wouldn't count
on it.  Shreading it and putting it in concrete may be a good idea. 
Maybe putting it in a MRI machine would help too.  I would leave the
room though.  O_O

Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  Named Smoker
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  
Named Swifty
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.  Named Pokey
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.  Named Putput

All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up 
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote:

On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 06:56 -0600, Dale wrote:
  

Iain Buchanan wrote:



I have heard the same thing.  I have watched some of them on TV get data
off some unbelievable drives.  Some had bent platters, serious
scratches, been formatted a few times etc etc etc,   After all that,
they still got enough of what they wanted.  They put a chemical on one
and you could see the data with your eyes.  It looked like a round bar
code sort of.



hmm, sounds suspicious... It could have been some sort of serial number,
but if you could see it with your eye, it definitely wasn't 0's and 1's
of data.

Someone will know (I don't) what the density is on a modern platter.
  



Well, the one you could see was a old floppy.  I think it was a 5 1/4
floppy.  You had to look close but after they put the chems on it, you
could see it when they zoomed in on it pretty good.

I would assume they could do the same for a hard drive and just use
something to magnify it, like maybe a microscope or something.

Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.  Named Smoker
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.  
Named Swifty
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.  Named Pokey
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.  Named Putput

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/31/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you shred or wipe the data (run random data over the disk many
 times, with a bit of magic formulas thrown in) then apparently the FBI /
 CIA / KGB / WTFC has a magnetic data recovery tool to see what bit was
 written before the current bit (don't ask me how).

It works because hard disks are still analog recording devices.  The
magnetic field used to write the data extends slightly outwards on
either side of the track, and thus can record data (although with a
much lower S/N ratio) in the space between tracks.  If you have the
right hardware that can be convinced to read the area between tracks,
you have a chance of recovering the data.

In fact in recent years manufacturers have nearly reached the limit on
how tightly tracks can be squeezed together before they start
overwriting each other.  This is why laptop drives maxed out at 120G,
until Seagate started using 'perpindicular recording'.

Since there is so little spacing between the tracks now, I suspect
(but can't say for certain) that the chances of recovering data from a
modern large (160G)  drive that has been 'shred'ed is pretty much
nil, regardless of the amount of money you through at it.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic?

2006-01-31 Thread James
Benno Schulenberg benno.schulenberg at gmail.com writes:


 James wrote:
  I think my 'delete' key has quite working on a portable. Any
  programs or tricks for diagnosis the problem ?

 Switch to a VT and run 'showkey' to see whether it still produces 
 scan codes.

showkey shows  press and release of ascii '83' so I guess it working fine.
My second delete key works fine, but is in an awkward location
on the keyboard. This problem showed up recently after an emerge update world.

Any ideas how to fix this? new map?   When  I boot  (2.6.14-gentoo-r6)
the laptop, I get an error messge about :
System.map not found  can not  check symbols

Ideas?


James



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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Fish
 Someone will know (I don't) what the density is on a modern platter.

The highest density platters today are close to 100Gbit / square inch.
 So no, you won't see the bits with the naked eye!

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/31/06, Javier Payno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ho wait my mouse wheel isn't working now - back to the drawing board

Try ExplorerPS/2.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] app-arch/rpm-4.2.1 unmask problem

2006-01-31 Thread Joksim

Hello,

I'm having hard time unmasking and installing app-arch/rpm-4.2.1. I have
tried with:

package.keywords and with package.unmask

=app-arch/rpm-4.2.1
app-arch/rpm ~86

but with no luck. What am I doing wrong.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-01-31 Thread Paul
On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 12:49, Dale wrote:
I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was resolved by changing 
the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse works OK It still 
appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking.
I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev not found and 
something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!!
Any other ideas I could try?
Paul


 Funny, I thought about that thread when I saw it was taking one click
 twice too.  May want to check on that.  If you look in the Xorg.0.log
 file in /var/log it should tell you what it tries to see it as.  It may

dmesg | grep mouse
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice

 be seeing it as the wrong thing.  This may help too:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # dmesg | grep mouse
  mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
(II) LoadModule: mouse
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4
.
.
.
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) NVIDIA(0): v4l[/dev/video0]: using hw video scaling [YUY2].
.
.
.
(**) Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2
(**) Mouse1: Device: /dev/input/mice
(**) Mouse1: Protocol: ExplorerPS/2
(**) Option CorePointer
(**) Mouse1: Core Pointer
(**) Option Device /dev/input/mice
(==) Mouse1: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
(**) Mouse1: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Mouse1: Buttons: 5
(**) Mouse1: SmartScroll: 1 
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) Keyboard1: Core Keyboard
(**) Option Protocol standard
(**) Keyboard1: Protocol: standard
(**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
(**) Option XkbRules xorg
(**) Keyboard1: XkbRules: xorg
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) Keyboard1: XkbModel: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout gb
(**) Keyboard1: XkbLayout: gb
(**) Option CustomKeycodes off
(**) Keyboard1: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard1 (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse1 (type: MOUSE)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device NVIDIA Event Handler (type: Other)
(II) Mouse1: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
SetClientVersion: 0 8


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard setting additional search domains into DHCP-overwrited resolv.conf

2006-01-31 Thread Trenton Adams
On 1/31/06, Schleimer, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I too am interested in knowing how to do this.
  Theres no obvious place in /etc/config.d/net(work?) to set new search 
 domains in resolv.conf
  if anyone can provide info on this, I'd appricate it.

  Thanks!
  Ben

  Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
 Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
 by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan


Apparently Mr Kernighan likes to use falacies! :)  Poor Mr. Kernighan.
 Someone who writes clever code is not smart enough to debug it? 
That's pretty funny.  Write it right the first time, and you're more
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Grant wrote:
 Hello!  I've heard that data can be recovered from a formatted hard
 disk. 

Were did you hear that? I've got a hard time
believing that - as long as a format is somewhat
like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda.

 Lucky for me I don't have any interest in actually doing this,
 but I got in an argue\ment with a buddy last night about whether or
 not it was possible.

I don't think so.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard setting additional search domains into DHCP-overwrited resolv.conf

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/31/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Apparently Mr Kernighan likes to use falacies! :)  Poor Mr. Kernighan.

Um, you _do_ know who 'Mr Kernighan' is, right?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Stroller wrote:
 On 31 Jan 2006, at 01:03, Grant wrote:
 
 Hello!  I've heard that data can be recovered from a formatted hard
 disk.
 
 Yes, it's fairly trivial, for someone who cares enough to try, to  
 retrieve data from a disk that's merely been formatted.

Oh, is it? Please explain how!

 Although I've  
 never tried to do so myself I regularly `shred /dev/hda` on  
 customers' scrap PCs (see `info shred`) and a data recovery  
 specialist last year offered to return 17gigs worth of data from a  
 hard drive that had died containing only 8 gigs of files.

Died hard drives are a *COMPLETELY* different matter.

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Re: [gentoo-user] uname -a question

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/30/06, Jerry Eastmanhouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought that this was in the top 4 lines of the kernel Makefile.

 Standard location is going to be /usr/src/linux/Makefile


 VERSION = 2
 PATCHLEVEL = 4

This is still true with the 2.6 kernel, except that there is now also
a LOCALVERSION that comes from the .config file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-01-31 Thread Paul
On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 16:35, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 1/31/06, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 12:49, Dale wrote:
  I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was resolved by
  changing the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse works
  OK It still appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking.
  I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev not found
  and something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!!
  Any other ideas I could try?

 Hmm, seems I responded to the wrong part of a reply...

 Anyway, could you post the InputDevice and ServerLayout sections of
 your xorg.conf?

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse1 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard1 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard1
Driver  kbd

Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout gb
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol ExplorerPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

 The only obvious thing I saw missing in your xorg.0.log output was a
 line about core events, but maybe you just skipped it...
I have just checked again and can't find any mention of core events in the 
log.

Thanks for your help
Paul

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 31 January 2006 15:19, Schleimer, Ben wrote:
 I understand that writing zeros over the file should permenately delete the
 data 

Don't believe people telling that. The data will still be recoverable (with 
the right hardware). That is so because overwriting a 0 with a 0 will 
lead to another level of manetic field than overwriting a 1 with a 0. The 
only way to wipe out data safely is to write different random bit over it 
several times.

 but couldn't the data be cached elsewhere on the drive, especially 
 with journalling filesystems??

Journalling filesystems are a problem when it comes to wipe out single files. 
Wiping out the whole harddrive is still possible.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] What mobile phone / PDA combination unit that syncs with Linux should I get?

2006-01-31 Thread michael

Hey, when you find out, let me know as well.

I think our only hope is to make our own. There is (I think) at least
one open source cellphone project going on.

Michael


On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, David Dorward wrote:


The contract on my mobile phone is coming up for renewal soon, so I'm
shortly going to be in the market for a shiny new phone. (NB: I'm in
the UK, so it is devices available in this country that I'm interested
in).

I'm looking for a few specific things...

* Can talk to my Gentoo box
* Has a calendar ... that can sync with Evolution
* Has a keyboard or good handwriting recognition
* Lets me write text files and then send them to my Gentoo box
* Not /too/ expensive (Sub-?100 after the contract subsidy)

Any recommendations for devices?

Things that seem to fit are the Nokia Communicator replacement and
various Pocket PC (eeek, Microsoft!) devices (although I don't know
how well either of them work with Linux - Google kept turning up hits
to review pages that had linux somewhere in the sidebar).

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[gentoo-user] AMD 64 bit system selections

2006-01-31 Thread James
Hello,

We'll I'm finally taking the plunge and building a  high performance
64 bit AMD system. Oh, but the company paying for it insist upon 
windozXP 64bit, just in case Gentoo does not work. I'm really surprise
some vendor is not listed on gentoo.org, as it'd make this purchase
more straightforward, and It'd be a great opportunity to support Gentoo.
Any 'off the shelf' system recommendations, or  should I just purchase
pieces? (Reasonable vendors that build systems and perform Gentoo 
installation here in the US?)

What's the best 64 bit processor choice for performance for Gentoo? 
Dual-core?
Complimentary ram specs?

Mobo recommendations (lm_sensors and acpi support) in a 19 inch rack?

N+1 redundant power supply recommendations?

10/100/1000 Ethernet support?

What's the friendliest  high end video card for displaying video
(fast motion) that has open source drivers? Multiple displays?

Which Sata-2 drives give good performance and size (400 G or more)?

What's the best Raid level to run for storing, searching and manipulating
tons of video, and should I get a Gentoo friendly controller or use 
software raid?

Finally which file system would one recommed for this video server
with the best, stable performance.



ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic?

2006-01-31 Thread Benno Schulenberg
James wrote:
 showkey shows  press and release of ascii '83' so I guess it
 working fine. My second delete key works fine, but is in an
 awkward location on the keyboard.

On my keyboard the normal Delete key produces keycode 111, and the 
Del key on the numeric pad produces keycode 53.  Are you using the 
numeric Del as your normal delete key?  Then NumLock should be off, 
otherwise it'll produce a decimal point.

 Any ideas how to fix this? new map?   When  I boot 
 (2.6.14-gentoo-r6) the laptop, I get an error messge about :
 System.map not found  can not  check symbols

That is something different entirely.  When you install your kernel 
(which normally means copying bzImage to the /boot dir) you have to 
copy the System.map file (from the top dir of the kernel source) 
along with it, although this file is really only needed when you get 
oopses, so the kernel is able to tell in what function it occurs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0.0-r1: Can't load glx or via_drv module

2006-01-31 Thread Benno Schulenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I add the Load GLcore I get a undefined symbol for
 __glX11(something I can't rember exactly, but it is a symbol in
 libglx.so)
 Without (or without) Load GLcore I get a failure on Load glx
 from and undefined symbol glCallList which is provided in
 libGLcore.so

Please post the contents of your xorg.conf file.
And the output of 'emerge -pv xorg-server xf86-video-via'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Kmail empty replies

2006-01-31 Thread Benno Schulenberg
A. R. wrote:
   I've been having some problems with kmail.
   When I reply to a message, the message is delivered blank:
   The original message and my response are both blank.

What exactly do you mean with the message is delivered blank?

If you configure KMail and set the Default send method as Send 
Later (under Accounts  Sending), and you compose a message and 
press Ctrl+Enter, is the message in the outbox blank?

And the original message becomes blank too?  If you reply to a 
message, the content of that original message disappears?

You are now using Gmail for sending messages, no?  Please switch of 
the additional HTML you are sending.  And please don't top-post.
(http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html)

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Re: [gentoo-user] PHP upgrade breaks Squirrelmail

2006-01-31 Thread Dan Johansson
On Monday 30 January 2006 22.35, Ryan Tandy wrote:
 Dan Johansson wrote:
 On Monday 30 January 2006 15.35, ellotheth rimmwen wrote:
 On 1/29/06, Dan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fatal error: Call to undefined function ctype_print()
 in
 /var/www/localhost/htdocs/squirrelmail/plugins/gpg/gpg_hook_functions.ph
 p on line 842
 
 Did you compile PHP5 with support for the character type functions
 (USE=ctype)?
 
 Now I have (;-) But I get the same result.
 

 
 Do I miss an USE-flag for ctype_print() to function correctly?
 
 Regards,

 Try re-merging Squirrelmail so it can link against the new php build.

Did not help. (:-(

The error does not seem to be Squirrelmail - but the PHP5 ebuild. I created a 
small php-script like this:
?php
echo ctype_print(Dan Johansson);
?

If I execute this on the commendline like this php x.php it works, but if I 
access the file through apache it does not. To further investigate I changed 
my script to:

?php
phpinfo();
?

and behold, in the apache output it says in the Configure Command 
--disable-ctype and in the commandline output it says ctype functions = 
enabled

I'm now going to look into the ebuild to see why PHP5 builds the cli and 
apache2 parts differently.

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD 64 bit system selections

2006-01-31 Thread John Jolet


On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:58 AM, James wrote:


Hello,

We'll I'm finally taking the plunge and building a  high performance
64 bit AMD system. Oh, but the company paying for it insist upon
windozXP 64bit, just in case Gentoo does not work. I'm really surprise
some vendor is not listed on gentoo.org, as it'd make this purchase
more straightforward, and It'd be a great opportunity to support  
Gentoo.

Any 'off the shelf' system recommendations, or  should I just purchase
pieces? (Reasonable vendors that build systems and perform Gentoo
installation here in the US?)

What's the best 64 bit processor choice for performance for Gentoo?
Dual-core?
Complimentary ram specs?

we're building our own with tyan motherboards, dual-core opterons and  
4 gigs of ram (for the web servers, single core and 2 gigs).  They  
have dual gig ethernet ports (one nvidia, one broadcom, drivers in  
the kernel).  Haven't found any 400gig sata drives, at least not for  
a reasonable price, we're using i think some 250s with 3ware raid  
cards (the tyan motherboards only have fakeraid).  Man these things  
SCREAM  One word of caution...the amd64 boot image that's latest  
won't complete a boot, and the older 2005.0 has broken 3ware  
drivers.  had to install 65-bit ubuntu on a small partition and boot  
to that to install gentoo.  and that ubuntu is NOT smp enabled, so  
the build went slow until I could reboot into gentoo.


we're building blade servers...not true blad servers, as each has  
it's own nics and power, but you can get 10 in a 7-u rack (I think  
it's 7 u)

Mobo recommendations (lm_sensors and acpi support) in a 19 inch rack?

N+1 redundant power supply recommendations?

10/100/1000 Ethernet support?

What's the friendliest  high end video card for displaying video
(fast motion) that has open source drivers? Multiple displays?

Which Sata-2 drives give good performance and size (400 G or more)?

What's the best Raid level to run for storing, searching and  
manipulating

tons of video, and should I get a Gentoo friendly controller or use
software raid?

Finally which file system would one recommed for this video server
with the best, stable performance.



ideas?

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[gentoo-user] Fresh install fails on Locale-gettext

2006-01-31 Thread daniel
I just finished doing a reinstall of my amd64 machine (using x86 though) and 
upon doing a:

  # emerge --update --deep --newuse world

(I'd edited my use flags and done an emerge sync) I got this:

  # emerge --update --deep --newuse world
  Calculating world dependencies ...done!
   emerge (1 of 49) dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05 to /
   md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.04.ebuild
   md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.01-r1.ebuild
   md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.03.ebuild
   md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.05.ebuild
   md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.01-r1
   md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.03
   md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.04
   md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.05
   md5 src_uri ;-) gettext-1.05.tar.gz
   Unpacking source...
   Unpacking gettext-1.05.tar.gz /var/tmp/portage/Locale-gettext-1.05/work
   Source unpacked.
   * Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker
  checking for gettext... no
  checking for gettext in -lintl... no
  gettext function not found. Please install libintl at Makefile.PL line 18.
  make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

I tried emerging gettext again, no joy.  rebooting didn't help either.  What 
am I missing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install fails on Locale-gettext

2006-01-31 Thread Steven Susbauer
Try a revdep-rebuild and see if it wants to build something.

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, daniel wrote:

 I just finished doing a reinstall of my amd64 machine (using x86 though) and
 upon doing a:

   # emerge --update --deep --newuse world

 (I'd edited my use flags and done an emerge sync) I got this:

   # emerge --update --deep --newuse world
   Calculating world dependencies ...done!
emerge (1 of 49) dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05 to /
md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.04.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.01-r1.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.03.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.05.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.01-r1
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.03
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.04
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.05
md5 src_uri ;-) gettext-1.05.tar.gz
Unpacking source...
Unpacking gettext-1.05.tar.gz /var/tmp/portage/Locale-gettext-1.05/work
Source unpacked.
* Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker
   checking for gettext... no
   checking for gettext in -lintl... no
   gettext function not found. Please install libintl at Makefile.PL line 18.
   make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

 I tried emerging gettext again, no joy.  rebooting didn't help either.  What
 am I missing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE starts and runs slowly

2006-01-31 Thread Bryce Verdier
Also, make sure that net.lo is turned on. I had a problem a while ago 
with KDE taking forever to boot  interact because net.lo wasn't 
starting in the init scripts. I guess its required.


Just something to try and help out.

bryce


Richard Fish wrote:

On 1/29/06, Korondi Márk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi, everyone

Yesterday I reinstalled gentoo, because I'd made the filesystem dirty (always
used sudo, and installed programs not in portage randomly...) and I want a
new, clean system.



With Gentoo there is almost always an easier way than
re-installing...but too late for that now.

  

I install new kde (3.5.0), but there is a problem:
While other programs - firefox, gftp,  bittorrent - run fine, all of my
programs using some kdelib or ,if I'm right, DCOP start slowly, and after
starting cannot run fine.
For example: KDE starts up slower than in the previous installation. Then I
pick konqueror, it takes 2-3 secs. to start. Then I close, and re-exec it.
2-3 secs again (where is the cache?). BUT: KHTML starts to render the page,
it hangs for 2 seconds, then begin to load. hmmm... Clicking refresh causes
the same.



Might be a prelinking issue...do you set KDE_IS_PRELINKED? And if so,
is it really pre-linked?

Running strace with the -tt option can also give you an idea of what
the KDE application is doing during that 2-3 second delay.

-Richard

  


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[gentoo-user] Re: AMD 64 bit system selections

2006-01-31 Thread James
John Jolet john at jolet.net writes:

  We'll I'm finally taking the plunge and building a  high performance
  64 bit AMD system. Oh, but the company paying for it insist upon
  windozXP 64bit, just in case Gentoo does not work. I'm really surprise
  some vendor is not listed on gentoo.org, as it'd make this purchase
  more straightforward, and It'd be a great opportunity to support  
  Gentoo.
  Any 'off the shelf' system recommendations, or  should I just purchase
  pieces? (Reasonable vendors that build systems and perform Gentoo
  installation here in the US?)


Well you pretty much just mentioned what I was leaning to. On the HD front,
check out this bad boy:  Hitachi T7K500, 500 GB SATA-2. Almost as fast
as the WD 10,000 rpm raptor drives, from what I've read

Thanks for the info.


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[gentoo-user] DRI, modular X and the intel 855GM video card

2006-01-31 Thread Andrew Frink
Hey all i have a intel 855GM using the i810 driver in modualr X, just recently hardware acceleration stopped working. Not really sure why.here's my glx-info output.name of display: :
0.0libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.libGL error: InitDriver failedlibGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect renderingdisplay: :0 screen: 0direct rendering: Noserver glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,  GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,  GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, 
 GLX_SGIX_fbconfigclient glx vendor string: SGIclient glx version string: 1.4client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,  GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, 
 GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method,  GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control,  GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, 
 GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_MESA_render_textureanyways the permissions on /dev/dri/card0 is rw for my user. any ideas would be helpful


[gentoo-user] Re: Re: CUPS -- fails better!

2006-01-31 Thread Mick
maxim wexler wrote:

 
 
 --- Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 maxim wexler wrote:
 
 [snip...]
  I [30/Jan/2006:14:52:31 -0700] Job 23 queued on
  'deskjet' by 'root'.
 
 Why are you running it as root?
 
 That was a test page run from localhost631 which
 requires that I be root.
 
 Here's the command-line try, this time as root(the
 earlier example was as user):
 
 sarawak heathen #  unix2dos env-lp-test | lpr -l
 unix2dos: converting file env-lp-test to DOS format
 ...
 lpr: error - stdin is empty, so no job has been sent.

Sorry I can't help with the unix2dos thing - never used it (yet).

Just checking some basics:
Have you User lp, System lp, SystemGroup lp as well as 

Location /
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
/Location

in your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, with just the default authentication setup,
i.e. no encryption, etc.?
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[gentoo-user] Re: PHP upgrade breaks Squirrelmail

2006-01-31 Thread Harm Geerts
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 20:11, Dan Johansson wrote:
 I'm now going to look into the ebuild to see why PHP5 builds the cli and
 apache2 parts differently.
Could it be you forgot to restart apache after rebuilding php?

The configure part for each SAPI is a generic function and doesn't care about 
which SAPI it's building for.
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Re: [gentoo-user] amarok sound engine

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/31/06, C. Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know if you've solved this issue.  I'm using the Xine engine
 with amaroK (1.3.6) and it works fine.  Did you choose an output
 plugin in the 'Configure amaroK -- Engine' screen, or did you let it
 auto detect?  Mine is set to auto detect.

Try building with USE=-gstreamer

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS -- fails better!

2006-01-31 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:36:04 +0100
Harm Geerts wrote:

 On Monday 30 January 2006 23:00, maxim wexler wrote:
  I [30/Jan/2006:14:52:31 -0700] Started backend
  /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 5870) for job 23.
  E [30/Jan/2006:14:52:31 -0700] PID 5869 stopped with
  status 3!
  I [30/Jan/2006:14:52:31 -0700] Hint: Try setting the
  LogLevel to debug to find out more.
 
  ditto, nothing prints
 
  Oh, and changing debug level in cupsd.conf doesn't
  have any effect. I saved the file; do I have to logout
  and in again?
 You'll need to restart cups after changing the config.
 e.g.: /etc/init.d/cups restart
 
 with loglevel set to debug cups will print more information on each step it 
 takes. But with the current error you can already make an educated guess.
 /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel dies with errorcode 3, so this is where you've 
 got to start looking. I wouldn't be suprised if it's a permission problem 
 like Mick says.

No look closer, that is NOT what it says!!

It says PID 5869 stopped with status 3!  PID 5869 is foomatic-rip (see two 
lines above, not quoted above, but in maxim's message)

Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 5869) for job
23.

parallel is the next PID 5870

google found a few references to foomatic-rip status 3. 

But anyway rasing the debug level may pinpoint it better. I have often
found problems with versions of ghostscript when you get ripping
problems with cups, but that may be a red herring :-)




 
 You could try running /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel from a console to see 
 what happens (as the same user as cups is running under!)
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Grant
  I understand that writing zeros over the file should permenately delete the
  data

 Don't believe people telling that. The data will still be recoverable (with
 the right hardware). That is so because overwriting a 0 with a 0 will
 lead to another level of manetic field than overwriting a 1 with a 0. The
 only way to wipe out data safely is to write different random bit over it
 several times.

Almost everyone seems to agree that recovering data from a formatted
drive is possible.  What is the process by which this is done?  I've
read here that:

1. The space between tracks contains historical data information.

and:

2. There is a difference between a track written with a 0 and then
overwritten with a 0 and a track written with a 1 and then overwritten
with a 0.

Are these the two processes by which this data recovery is made possible?

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] emerge update world and modular xorg-x11

2006-01-31 Thread Cláudio Henrique
I have installed modular xorg-x11 following the guides in gentoo
(http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml) and
in gentoo-wiki (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg) and now I'm
having trouble updating my system. how can I solve this?


localhost ~ # emerge -uDav world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy virtual/x11 have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- virtual/x11-6.8 (masked by: package.mask)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(dependency required by media-gfx/gimp-2.2.8-r1 [ebuild])



!!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-gfx/gimp
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [kde Q] Gack too man shares showing up on desktop

2006-01-31 Thread Harry Putnam
Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've cleared all boxes at kcontrol/Desktop/Behavior/Device icons

 Also the top one, Show device icons, after which the whole list 
 greys out?

Egad, don't know why I couldn't see that one until you pointed it out.
That cleared the slate... thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD 64 bit system selections

2006-01-31 Thread Bob Sanders
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:58:53 + (UTC)
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 What's the best 64 bit processor choice for performance for Gentoo? 
 Dual-core?

Perhaps you should ask what the best price performance/watt in the cpu
range?  Generally it's best to figure out your needs and then calculate the
cost for each step up in cpu power to meet those needs.

 Complimentary ram specs?
 

Personally, I prefer 2-2-2 or 2-3-2.5 ram, but it's expensive and not all
applications benefit.

 Mobo recommendations (lm_sensors and acpi support) in a 19 inch rack?
 

Tyan or Super Micro tend to be better choices.

 N+1 redundant power supply recommendations?


Vendors change every year.  If you've got big bucks and can find someone that 
will
sell single units - Delta.  Otherwise, whomever can meet the current demands.
 
 10/100/1000 Ethernet support?


On the motherboard - best is typically Broadcom or Intel.  The rest are pretty 
good.
 
 What's the friendliest  high end video card for displaying video
 (fast motion) that has open source drivers? Multiple displays?


Doesn't exist.  But Nvidia is the better bet as their drivers tend to work more 
often.
 
 Which Sata-2 drives give good performance and size (400 G or more)?
 
 What's the best Raid level to run for storing, searching and manipulating
 tons of video, and should I get a Gentoo friendly controller or use 
 software raid?
 

For video data, use a linear stripe across two controllers.  And at least three 
controllers
for HD video.  But HD video requires SCSI or SAS, stripped across multiple 
controllers and
15Krpm drives in the arrays.

 Finally which file system would one recommed for this video server
 with the best, stable performance.


XFS.

Bob 
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 17:39 -0800, Grant wrote:
 
 Almost everyone seems to agree that recovering data from a formatted
 drive is possible.  What is the process by which this is done?  I've
 read here that:
 
 1. The space between tracks contains historical data information.
 
 and:
 
 2. There is a difference between a track written with a 0 and then
 overwritten with a 0 and a track written with a 1 and then overwritten
 with a 0.
 
 Are these the two processes by which this data recovery is made possible?

They both rely on the fact that you can read what _was_ once written to
the hard drive by examining the spaces.  So that's one method.

The other method of recovering data is just to cat /dev/hda, but that
relies on the hd not being wiped (overwritten with 0's and 1's many
times in a semi-random fashion!).
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update world and modular xorg-x11

2006-01-31 Thread Mike Owen
On 1/31/06, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (dependency required by media-gfx/gimp-2.2.8-r1 [ebuild])

Upgrade to gimp-2.2.9, which has support for Modular X.

Mike

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[gentoo-user] CD and DVD indexing tool

2006-01-31 Thread Tom Eastman
Hey all,

I'm looking for a utility that could be used for indexing the contents
of the dozens and hundreds of CDRs and DVDRs that I've amassed over the
years.  I was kind of thinking just a heap of text files with the
contents of 'tree' or 'ls -R' or something, but it would be nicer if
there was some kind of metadata gathering, such as ID3 tags / JFIF /
MPEG info etc. etc.

Are there tools available that are any good at this?  Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] amarok sound engine

2006-01-31 Thread Martins Steinbergs
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 20:42, C. Beamer wrote:
 Martins Steinbergs wrote:
 Hi,
 

 Hi,

 I don't know if you've solved this issue.  I'm using the Xine engine
 with amaroK (1.3.6) and it works fine.  Did you choose an output
 plugin in the 'Configure amaroK -- Engine' screen, or did you let it
 auto detect?  Mine is set to auto detect.

 Colleen

I came to conclusion this isn't amarok or xine problem. different boots with 
different results with no change between. this sound bug comes together with 
fast clock what i hadn't solve, but buggy sound is only amarok, xine or xmms 
plays nice. at leats fast clock i can sync with hardware.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X USE flag - what does it do?

2006-01-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 10:54:27PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote

 No, it means the flag setting changed since the last install. The newer
 portage also has a % to show the flag has been added to the ebuild since
 the last install.
 
 You are thinking of use.defaults, which appear to have been phased out
 for the very latest portage, judging by the number of extra packages with
 -flag* that appeared in emerge --newuse world after updating portage. I
 had no idea so many of my USE flags had been set by use.defaults rather
 than the profile.

  I found out... the hard way... with ipv6 quite some time ago.  Note
the first entry in my USE variable...

USE=-* 3dnow X a52 aac alsa bzip2 cdr dga dio divx4linux dri dvd dvdr dvdread 
encode exif ffmpeg flac fortran gb gif gtk2 imlib jpeg maildir mikmod mime mmap 
mmx mng mp3 mpeg ncurses nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ogg opengl plotutils 
png posix quicktime readline sdl sharedmem slang sockets sse theora threads 
tiff truetype vcd vorbis win32codecs wmf xpm xv zlib

  Gentoo is about control, and I want full control over the optional
stuff.  The only booby-trap I ran into is that I have to include...

app-text/xpdf motif

...in /etc/portage/package.use.  xpdf builds just the libs, *BUT NO XPDF
EXECUTABLE*, if you don't have the motif flag somewhere.  Sometimes,
you have no choice, but to invoke package.use, because different apps
function best in your environment with a different setting.  E.g...

  - with X support compiled in, and DISPLAY set, mc sits and spins its
wheels for several seconds when launched in a real text console.
But sdl and various other apps don't do what I want them to do if
not built with X support.

  - building all apps with the static flag is not normally practical.
However, you want busybox to run standalone as a rescue facility,
even if some libs are screwed up.  It makes sense, to build busybox
with static.  I argue that it's foolhardy not to do so.

  If I find that most apps need a flag (e.g. X) I enable it generally
in /etc/make.conf, and disable it in /etc/portage/package.use for the
few packages that don't like it.  If a flag is required for only 1 or 2
apps, I go the other way.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Electricsheep (General Question)

2006-01-31 Thread Ian
Thanks!I got it working. I just left it on overnight. :)Thanks again!On 1/31/06, Steven Susbauer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It takes a lot longer than 8-10 minutes, I don't think their download
server is very quick, or something like that. Wait a while and it willactually start working (and if you have it selected in kscreensaver orxscreensaver, you shouldn't need to configure anything).On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Simon Hogg wrote:
 On 1/27/06, Bill Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20:19 Fri 27 Jan , Ian wrote: Hey everyone I came across this app and and having issues getting it to work.
 I was told to leave it running so it could do a download. After 8-10 minutes, nothing came up. Is there any way I can verify what its doing? Is this what Im supposed to do?
 I played with this a couple of years ago. It is a applet for xscreensaver, I don't recall the detail of configuring it, but it wasn't too difficult. But it does chew up alot of bandwidth, and the results were less than
 spectacular.I ended up unmerging it. Good luck Bill RobertsIIRC the program you're trying to remember is xscreensaver-demoHTH,Simon--
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[gentoo-user] Abiword 2.2.11 crashes

2006-01-31 Thread Adrian
Greetings all;

Suddenly I've stated having a problem with Abiword 2.2.11 -- every time
I cut or copy text it crashes.  This version was working fine.  

I checked bugs.gentoo and couldn't find a bug report regarding this
situation. 

I wonder if it has anything to do with the programs which I have
upgraded lately, those being:
--
Calculating dependencies  ...done!

 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.20 [2.17] +nls 1,690 kB

 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2 [4.1.20-r1] -build
+nls (-selinux) -static 759 kB 
 
 [ebuild U ] app-editors/nano-1.3.9 [1.3.7] -build -debug
-justify -minimal +ncurses +nls +slang +spell -unicode 1,109 kB 

 [ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.4 [2.12.0] -debug +doc +ssl
-static 661 kB

 [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2 [2.10.0-r2] -debug +doc
-gnutls -hal -howl +ipv6 -samba +ssl 1,521 kB 

 [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.12.0-r1 [2.10.1] -debug
384 kB 

 [ebuild U ] gnome-base/eel-2.12.2 [2.10.1] +X -debug 660 kB

 [ebuildU ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.12.2 [2.10.1-r1] +X -debug
3,962 kB 

 [ebuildU ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1] -debug +encode
+gnome -pccts 1,687 kB 

 [ebuild U ] media-sound/ecasound-2.4.3
[2.3.3] +alsa +arts +audiofile* -debug +jack* -libsamplerate +mikmod
+ncurses -oss* +python -ruby -sndfile +vorbis* 1,086 kB 

 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-5.2.1-r7 [5.2.1-r6] +acl* -build
+nls (-selinux) -static 65 kB 

 [ebuild U ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.12.0 [2.10.0]
-debug -static 1,644 kB 

 [ebuild U ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.1 [0.2.0-r3] 81 kB 

 [ebuild U ] app-office/koffice-1.4.2-r6 [1.4.1-r1]
+arts -debug +doc -javascript -mysql +postgres -xinerama 19,030 kB
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I'm gonna try emerging Abiword again tonight to see if that helps.

Any observations?  Thank you very much.
Adrian

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update world and modular xorg-x11

2006-01-31 Thread ralpklm
On 1/31/06, Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have installed modular xorg-x11 following the guides in gentoo
 (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml) and
 in gentoo-wiki (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg) and now I'm
 having trouble updating my system. how can I solve this?


 localhost ~ # emerge -uDav world

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating world dependencies -
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy virtual/x11 have been masked.
 !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
 - virtual/x11-6.8 (masked by: package.mask)

 For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
 refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
 (dependency required by media-gfx/gimp-2.2.8-r1 [ebuild])



 !!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-gfx/gimp
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Don't be surprised if there are more dependencies that need to be
unmasked that are seemingly unrelated to modular X (this is not
mentioned in the HOWTO).

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Recovering data from a formatted hard disk

2006-01-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 31 January 2006 15:19, Schleimer, Ben wrote:
 I understand that writing zeros over the file should permenately delete the
 data 
 
 Don't believe people telling that.

Why not? I would believe those people.

 The data will still be recoverable

Will it? Why is it, that there are no proofs at all
that this is actually possible? Or do you have any
prove?

 The 
 only way to wipe out data safely is to write different random bit over it 
 several times.

0 is good enough with modern hardware. That's so, because current
harddrives have a much higher rate of staying in the track and thus
do not write to the left or right of it.

 
 but couldn't the data be cached elsewhere on the drive, especially 
 with journalling filesystems??
 
 Journalling filesystems are a problem when it comes to wipe out single files. 

Yes.

 Wiping out the whole harddrive is still possible.

But not with normal hardware.

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Re: [gentoo-user] app-arch/rpm-4.2.1 unmask problem

2006-01-31 Thread Joksim

Holly Bostick wrote:

Joksim schreef:


Hello,

I'm having hard time unmasking and installing app-arch/rpm-4.2.1. I have
tried with:

package.keywords and with package.unmask

=app-arch/rpm-4.2.1
app-arch/rpm ~86

but with no luck. What am I doing wrong.



RPM-4.2.1 is neither package masked nor arch masked for x86. It is
removed from/not available to the x86 tree, as well as several others
(amd64, ppc64, ppc macos).


eix rpm

* app-arch/rpm
 Available versions:  4.0.4-r5 4.2 4.2-r1 -4.2.1

That's what that - means before the version number.

You can still install it though- if you really want; I would strongly
suggest checking the ChangeLog and b.g.o to find out what's going on,
since a package being made unavailable to any part of the Portage tree
indicates serious issues-- by adding the following to
/etc/portage/package.keywords:

app-arch/rpm -x86 (or -amd64 or -ppc64, or -ppc macos, depending on what
you're using)

But I wouldn't expect it to compile, or be worth the trouble it's likely
to cause you, all things considered.


Yes, I'm trying to install rpm on vserver and dev-libs/beecrypt depends 
on rpm-4.2.1. I have filled a bug:


http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121046
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