Re: [gentoo-user] ATI X300 problem
i have the exact problem with kernel 2.15 and framebuffer disabled. it used to work fine with the same drivers and the same kernel before the only thing that changed in my 2 isntalls is that the new one has gcc-3.4.4 while in the old i didnt' update gcc On 2/14/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 23:39 -0200, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > > I am using 2.6.15-r4, and 8.22.15 ati driver > > can some thing with frame buffer ? > > what framebuffer are you using? vesafg, vesafb-tng, or one of the > kernel ati-framebuffers? > > (you could try this command) > > $ grep FB /usr/src/linux/.config | egrep -v '^#' > -- > Iain Buchanan > > And that's the way it is... > -- Walter Cronkite > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Cheers, Ghaith -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] program lancher
Does any know another program lancher like gmrun, grun? -- Wang ShaoChun(王绍春) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PH.D Candidate Laboratory of Computer Science, Institute of Software Chinsese Academy of Sciences -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] BIND's Problem
I was trying to configure my own BIND Dynamic DNS and everything was ok, the daemon start normally, but when the client send it's hostname the output of the messages log in the server seems like this: "dhcpd: Unable to add forward map from american.cell.com to 192.168.0.128: connection refused" I was looking for this kind of message error in google, but after i do what they tell me, nothing work. Has anybody solve this kind of message error ??? If you want more info, just ask me Thanks a0d
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote: On 2/14/06, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote: data seg size (kbytes, -d) 58593 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) 58593 These are preventing any process spawned by this user from allocating more than 58593 bytes of memory (which is why 32M works, and 64M fails) Try: ulimit -d unlimited ulimit -v unlimited -Richard Well, so that was it! I just finished compiling gcc. I wonder why those limits were set for user root?! My home computer didn't have such restriction, and I recently made a new install on the computer that had all this problem, so I'm sure I didn't do it myself and forgot it... It's a relief to know it's not hw problem! Thank you, and thanks also to Benno and Zac. Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] test
this is a test mail. ignore -- Wang ShaoChun(王绍春) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PH.D Candidate Laboratory of Computer Science, Institute of Software Chinsese Academy of Sciences -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On 2/14/06, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote: > data seg size (kbytes, -d) 58593 > virtual memory (kbytes, -v) 58593 These are preventing any process spawned by this user from allocating more than 58593 bytes of memory (which is why 32M works, and 64M fails) Try: ulimit -d unlimited ulimit -v unlimited -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VERY OFF TOPIC! - Does anyone have a G4 iMac they dont want anymore?
quoth the Ian: > Hey everyone! > If you want to get rid of a (working) G4 iMac, and are willing to ship to > Canada, > please let me know. I dont have a lot of money right now as I am a student, > ($400-$450) > but we could maybe work something out. Thanks everyone!! > Cheers, > Ian Have you checked Ebay? That is where I got my G4, at about your quoted price, and yes that included shipping to Canada. -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpZXx8hOSox5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote: Or better: ulimit -a $ ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) 0 data seg size (kbytes, -d) 58593 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 8191 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 32 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 1024 pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 stack size (kbytes, -s) 58593 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 8191 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) 58593 file locks (-x) unlimited Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote: Any chance this is a resource limit issue? ulimit -l -m Nope... $ ulimit -l -m max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 32 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On 2/14/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ulimit -l -m Or better: ulimit -a -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On 2/14/06, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(4*(1024*1024))" > ~ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(8*(1024*1024))" > ~ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(16*(1024*1024))" > ~ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(32*(1024*1024))" > ~ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(64*(1024*1024))" > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in ? > MemoryError Any chance this is a resource limit issue? ulimit -l -m -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote: Also, to test whether your system can make large memory allocations, you can do: python -c "s='x'*(4*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(8*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(16*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(32*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(64*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(128*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(256*(1024*1024))" The above commands will try to allocate memory from 4M to 256M. -Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(4*(1024*1024))" ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(8*(1024*1024))" ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(16*(1024*1024))" ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(32*(1024*1024))" ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(64*(1024*1024))" Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ? MemoryError ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(128*(1024*1024))" Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ? MemoryError ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ python -c "s='x'*(256*(1024*1024))" Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ? MemoryError Thanks, Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Zac Slade wrote:
Just an absolute blind stab in the dark. what does df -h give you?
$ df -h
FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3 2.0G 281M 1.7G 15% /
udev 506M 300K 506M 1% /dev
/dev/hda5 2.0G 338M 1.6G 18% /var
/dev/hda6 9.9G 3.6G 5.8G 39% /usr
/dev/hdb2 7.6G 3.0G 4.2G 42% /home
/dev/hdb6 23G 6.3G 16G 30% /home/jorge/bulk
/dev/hdb1 7.8G 1.6G 5.9G 21% /home/jorge/bulk/backup
/dev/hda7 2.0G 392M 1.5G 21% /local
/dev/hda8 10G 1.4G 8.6G 15% /local/mail
/dev/hdb3 7.6G 5.8G 1.4G 81% /local/port
/local/port/portage 7.6G 5.8G 1.4G 81% /usr/portage
/local/port/var_tmp 7.6G 5.8G 1.4G 81% /var/tmp/portage
/local/run/qmail/varqmail
2.0G 392M 1.5G 21% /var/qmail
/local/usr2.0G 392M 1.5G 21% /usr/local
shm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm
Anything interesting in dmesg? And just to make sure we have PLENTY of
the bottom of dmesg seems strange:
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
hw_random: RNG not detected
r8169: eth0: link up
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
ip_conntrack version 2.3 (8191 buckets, 65528 max) - 216 bytes per
conntrack
ipt_recent v0.3.1: Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
http://snowman.net/projects/ipt_recent/
ipt_owner: pid, sid and command matching not supported anymore
spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
ipt_owner: pid, sid and command matching not supported anymore
ipt_owner: pid, sid and command matching not supported anymore
ipt_owner: pid, sid and command matching not supported anymore
ipt_owner: pid, sid and command matching not supported anymore
(Many repeated lines like the latter.)
information here, can we get the end of emerge.log (some context prior to the
error message).
I suppose you mean the output of emerge? The contents of
/var/log/emerge.log are laconic. Here it goes:
In file included from
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/libgcov.c:37:
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/tsystem.h:40:1:
warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/doc//cppopts.texi:137:
warning: @strong{Note...} produces a spurious cross-reference in Info; reword
to avoid that.
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/doc//cppopts.texi:345:
warning: @strong{Note...} produces a spurious cross-reference in Info; reword
to avoid that.
mv: cannot stat `libgcc/*.os': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `s-crt0': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `crtbegin.o': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `crtbeginS.o': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `crtbeginT.o': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `crtend.o': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `crtendS.o': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `gcc-cross': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `protoize': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `unprotoize': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `specs': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `collect2': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `gcov': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `gcov-dump': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `*.[0-9][0-9].*': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `*.[si]': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `g++-cross': No such file or directory
mv: cannot stat `cc1plus': No such file or directory
make[2]: [stage1-start] Error 1 (ignored)
cp: cannot stat `libunwind.a': No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `libunwind*.so': No such file or directory
make[2]: [stage1-start] Error 1 (ignored)
mv: cannot stat `cp/*.o': No such file or directory
make[2]: [c++.stage1] Error 1 (ignored)
gengtype-lex.c: In function `yy_get_next_buffer':
gengtype-lex.c:2412: warning: old-style parameter declaration
gengtype-lex.c: In function `yy_get_previous_state':
gengtype-lex.c:2544: warning: old-style parameter declaration
gengtype-lex.c: In function `input':
gengtype-lex.c:2657: warning: old-style parameter declaration
/usr/share/bison/bison.simple: In function `yyparse':
/usr/share/bison/bison.simple:379: warning: old-style parameter
declaration
warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined
warning: structure `basic_block_def' used but not defined
warning: struct
Re: [gentoo-user] Display displacement
On 2/14/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 18:53 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > > It is not just the displacement, as i mentionend before the picture is > > unsharp in some places too. Could this also be fixed with xvidtune. > > If you have a crt, then is it a focus issue? Is your crt dying? Is the > refresh rate right? Fuzziness is a common symptom of old monitors. For the crappy 19" monitor on my desk at work I have to shrink the image size to about 15" (at least 1" away from all edges) or the characters on the screen are unreadable. So yes, xvidtune can help if aligning or shrinking the image resolves the problem. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
On 2/14/06, b.n. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well kde 3.5.1 is probably one of the most solid releases in a while. 3.5 > > had > > some issues, but so far 3.5.1 seems almost as mature as 3.4.4 was. YMMV. > > That's what I wanted to know. I think I'll begin to emerge it these days... Also remember that KDE is slotted, so even if you find that something in 3.5 doesn't work for you or that you don't like, you only have to change/rename/delete the appropriate files in /etc/env.d to get 3.4 back. Once you are satisfied with 3.5, you can do a emerge --prune --pretend to help with removing the old KDE packages. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On 2/14/06, Zac Slade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just an absolute blind stab in the dark. what does df -h give you? > Anything interesting in dmesg? And just to make sure we have PLENTY of > information here, can we get the end of emerge.log (some context prior to the > error message). Also, to test whether your system can make large memory allocations, you can do: python -c "s='x'*(4*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(8*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(16*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(32*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(64*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(128*(1024*1024))" python -c "s='x'*(256*(1024*1024))" The above commands will try to allocate memory from 4M to 256M. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On 2/14/06, Jorge Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $ free > total used free sharedbuffers > cached > Mem: 1035204 968140 67064 0 270248 > 538412 > -/+ buffers/cache: 159480 875724 > Swap: 996020300 995720 > > Of course, this is the output of free _after_ the previous failed emerge > attempts. > It seems RAM really was caught and not released... I can try rebooting, No, it wasn't. The important line is the "+/- buffers/cache", which shows you have 850M free. The rest of your used memory is buffers or cached programs, all of which can be swapped back out. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 19:25, Jorge Almeida wrote: > $ cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness > 60 > $ cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory > 0 > $ cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio > 50 That was a long shot, but just wanted to make sure the system was allowing overcommit. > $ free >total used free sharedbuffers > cached > Mem: 1035204 968140 67064 0 270248 > 538412 > -/+ buffers/cache: 159480 875724 > Swap: 996020300 995720 This seems within spec. You have plenty of memory free. > Of course, this is the output of free _after_ the previous failed emerge > attempts. It seems RAM really was caught and not released... I can try > rebooting, but there is the possibility that the box won't boot, and I'm > away... Is there some way to find what's eating RAM? If you don't have physical access to the system, don't reboot it. It's not just a good rule of thumb, it's one you should live by (whenever possible). > > What process is using the most memory right now? (Check top sorted by > > memory). > > $ top > top - 01:21:23 up 22 days, 17:29, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, > 0.00 Tasks: 120 total, 2 running, 118 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% > si Mem: 1035204k total, 968760k used,66444k free, 270684k buffers > Swap: 996020k total, 300k used, 995720k free, 538452k cached > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND >8291 root 15 0 159m 29m 3056 S 0.0 3.0 5:05.74 X > 24756 jorge 15 0 30592 25m 2576 S 0.0 2.5 0:06.52 pine > 28731 jorge 16 0 20016 14m 14m S 0.0 1.4 0:19.34 imap > 26923 root 15 0 21236 12m 9704 S 0.0 1.2 0:00.39 kdm_greet > 24757 jorge 16 0 8436 6292 5984 S 0.0 0.6 0:01.85 imap > 21961 jorge 16 0 8044 3992 2684 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.15 vim >8259 root 16 0 5756 2852 1356 S 0.0 0.3 0:50.69 cupsd > 24734 root 16 0 5944 1764 1440 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.01 sshd > 24767 root 16 0 5948 1764 1440 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.01 sshd >3588 root 15 0 2644 1560 1172 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.11 bash > 24746 jorge 15 0 2924 1472 1164 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.02 bash >6396 privoxy 15 0 36028 1464 784 S 0.0 0.1 0:07.90 privoxy > 24785 jorge 15 0 2796 1456 1156 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 bash > 24799 root 16 0 2664 1456 1156 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 bash Well nothing really stands out here There are multiple imap processes open, but really you have plenty of memory. Just an absolute blind stab in the dark. what does df -h give you? Anything interesting in dmesg? And just to make sure we have PLENTY of information here, can we get the end of emerge.log (some context prior to the error message). -- Zac Slade -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Zac Slade wrote: On Tuesday 14 February 2006 17:43, Benno Schulenberg wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: parser error : out of memory error /bin/sh: line 1: 3831 Segmentation fault Doesn't look good. :( No it doesn't, but there has to be a reason why he's out of memory... What is the output of free, before emerge? How about after it fails? Can you give the output of the following commands: cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio $ cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness 60 $ cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory 0 $ cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio 50 $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1035204 968140 67064 0 270248 538412 -/+ buffers/cache: 159480 875724 Swap: 996020300 995720 Of course, this is the output of free _after_ the previous failed emerge attempts. It seems RAM really was caught and not released... I can try rebooting, but there is the possibility that the box won't boot, and I'm away... Is there some way to find what's eating RAM? Also try using "vmstat 5" in one window and attempting the emerge in another window. What process is using the most memory right now? (Check top sorted by memory). $ top top - 01:21:23 up 22 days, 17:29, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Tasks: 120 total, 2 running, 118 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 1035204k total, 968760k used,66444k free, 270684k buffers Swap: 996020k total, 300k used, 995720k free, 538452k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 8291 root 15 0 159m 29m 3056 S 0.0 3.0 5:05.74 X 24756 jorge 15 0 30592 25m 2576 S 0.0 2.5 0:06.52 pine 28731 jorge 16 0 20016 14m 14m S 0.0 1.4 0:19.34 imap 26923 root 15 0 21236 12m 9704 S 0.0 1.2 0:00.39 kdm_greet 24757 jorge 16 0 8436 6292 5984 S 0.0 0.6 0:01.85 imap 21961 jorge 16 0 8044 3992 2684 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.15 vim 8259 root 16 0 5756 2852 1356 S 0.0 0.3 0:50.69 cupsd 24734 root 16 0 5944 1764 1440 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.01 sshd 24767 root 16 0 5948 1764 1440 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.01 sshd 3588 root 15 0 2644 1560 1172 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.11 bash 24746 jorge 15 0 2924 1472 1164 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.02 bash 6396 privoxy 15 0 36028 1464 784 S 0.0 0.1 0:07.90 privoxy 24785 jorge 15 0 2796 1456 1156 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 bash 24799 root 16 0 2664 1456 1156 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 bash Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
This will download binary source diffs against a previous release. So if you have the kdelibs-3.4 tar ball it will just get the delta tar ball that will contain the binary diff from kdelibs-3.4->kdelibs-3.5 CFLAGS are irrelevant here. It can save you a lot of bandwidth if the delta exists. o-o-ok, now I get it. It downloads the binary diff of the TARBALL. For a moment I thought it was a diff of the *compiled binaries*... I must have throwed my grey matter away, tonight. Well kde 3.5.1 is probably one of the most solid releases in a while. 3.5 had some issues, but so far 3.5.1 seems almost as mature as 3.4.4 was. YMMV. That's what I wanted to know. I think I'll begin to emerge it these days... m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mythtv backend problem...
I had a very similar problem, but I actually got something in my /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log file: Starting up as the master server. /mnt/store//nfslockfile.lock: Permission denied Unable to open lockfile! Be sure that '/mnt/store/' exists and that both the directory and that file are writeable by this user. I checked the directory and it was owned by root (I assume because I mounted a drive there,) so I first chowned the directory to nobody:nobody thinking that the initscript ran as nobody. However, that didn't work, but I noticed that mysql runs as the user 'mysql' so I chowned the directory to mythtv:nobody and everything worked smoothly. You may have to add the user mythtv to the video group (to access your tv card.) I certainly hope that helped someone. On 1/14/06, Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm having a real odd problem running the backend server for MYTHTV... > > The short story is, I can't startup the backend server via the startup script > at /etc/init.d/mythbackend... start does not work. It claims it starts but it > doesn't, no errors, nothing at all in dmesg or messages and worse than that, > the backend server doesn't run long enough to log anything > to /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log! > > Now the kicker... if I execute /usr/bin/mythbackend directly from a console, > it runs perfectly... and for the time being that's how I'm running it... I've > a fully functional mythtv setup, I just can't start the backend server from > the init script. > > I've tried loading all kinds of einfo's to the startup script to help trace > actions in the script... it all looks like the server should be loading. I > even added strace to the script and the output looks just peachy... but it > won't start from the script. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks, in advance, > Jerry > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 16:09, Richard Fish wrote: > Which ATI do you have? The ATI drivers (fglrx) does not support > composite yet. Both of the above options are only for nvidia users, I > believe. Enabling the Composite extension should work for all drivers, it isn't accelerated on fglrx, but there is a software fallback. It may not be worth it if you can't get HW acceleration. -- Zac Slade -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 15:47, b.n. wrote: > However I did it now and I noticed the USE flag "kdexdeltas", which > description on gentoo-portage.com is: > > "kdexdeltas - Makes kde ebuilds download binary diffs rather than > entire new tarballs for every new release" > > how is it supposed to work?! does it work for every kind of C flag? This will download binary source diffs against a previous release. So if you have the kdelibs-3.4 tar ball it will just get the delta tar ball that will contain the binary diff from kdelibs-3.4->kdelibs-3.5 CFLAGS are irrelevant here. It can save you a lot of bandwidth if the delta exists. > > I think it is important to note that KDE 3.5 has been released as > > stable by KDE for some time. It is only the ebuilds that are still > > marked as testing. > > Yes, I know. But I'm easily scared :P Well kde 3.5.1 is probably one of the most solid releases in a while. 3.5 had some issues, but so far 3.5.1 seems almost as mature as 3.4.4 was. YMMV. -- Zac Slade -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 17:43, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > Jorge Almeida wrote: > > parser error : out of memory error > > /bin/sh: line 1: 3831 Segmentation fault > > Doesn't look good. :( No it doesn't, but there has to be a reason why he's out of memory... What is the output of free, before emerge? How about after it fails? Can you give the output of the following commands: cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio Also try using "vmstat 5" in one window and attempting the emerge in another window. What process is using the most memory right now? (Check top sorted by memory). > Is this box always on? Have you tried rebooting? Maybe loads of > memory have leaked away. WHOA! Stop right there. Perhaps we should help him diagnose his problem before using a shotgun. > If the RAM has gone bad, to replace it you will have to touch it > anyway. So, no harm in trying to wriggle it a bit first. Touch > and hold the case before touching the RAM strips. There is nothing in the information he has presented thus far to show that there are memory errors of any type. He very well may be just running out of memory. It happens. Send back the extra information and let's get to the bottom of the issue. -- Zac Slade -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (again)
That did it! Now I have a semi-transparent konsole, which always appears at the bottom right - thanks!! -- Iain Buchanan Alas, I am dying beyond my means. -- Oscar Wilde [as he sipped champagne on his deathbed] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
Jorge Almeida wrote: > parser error : out of memory error > /bin/sh: line 1: 3831 Segmentation fault Doesn't look good. :( > No memory-hungry apps are open, since I'm working through ssh > (and there are no other human users). Is this box always on? Have you tried rebooting? Maybe loads of memory have leaked away. > > to dust off the computer on the inside and reseat the mem > > chips? > > Perhaps, but that's a somewhat frightening idea! If the RAM has gone bad, to replace it you will have to touch it anyway. So, no harm in trying to wriggle it a bit first. Touch and hold the case before touching the RAM strips. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (again)
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 16:06 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 06:34, Iain Buchanan wrote: [snip] > > > > konsole --geometry -0-0 [snip] > > I tried - instead of -- and the results are the same: -0-0 is not > > implemented properly... > > what do you mean with 'properly'? > where should konsole pop up? konsole -geometry : appears at should appear at +0+0top left top left -0+0top righttop right +0-0top left*bottom left -0-0various**bottom right * Always appears at top left ** Sometimes appears at top right, sometimes appears aligned with existing window. These tests were done about 5x for each geometry, with and without other windows on the same virtual desktop. The same tests run with gnome-terminal (from within KDE) using --geometry instead of -geometry place gnome-terminal in the right place all the time. (again, not flaming, just testing :) -- Iain Buchanan When you make your mark in the world, watch out for guys with erasers. -- The Wall Street Journal -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Display displacement
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 18:53 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > It is not just the displacement, as i mentionend before the picture is > unsharp in some places too. Could this also be fixed with xvidtune. possibly. Did you try the shorter / taller / wider / narrower buttons? Or the auto button? (I've never tried that one) btw, do you have an lcd or crt? If you have an lcd, the picture is fuzzy in places, because it's not the right size for your lcd, and its being "stretched", which makes a few pixels here and there in the picture get off place with the pixels of the monitor. (OK not a very good explanation, but this is how I understand it :) If you have a crt, then is it a focus issue? Is your crt dying? Is the refresh rate right? I'm kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Perhaps someone who knows more about monitors can help... -- Iain Buchanan A committee takes root and grows, it flowers, wilts and dies, scattering the seed from which other committees will bloom. -- Parkinson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On 2/14/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > aha, thank you for that great explanation. However, I have edited > xorg.conf as required with > > Section "Extensions" >Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection > > and > > Option "RenderAccel" "true" > Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" > > (I have an ati) but I still get the control centre message about > translucency not available... (of course, I restarted X :) Also, is Which ATI do you have? The ATI drivers (fglrx) does not support composite yet. Both of the above options are only for nvidia users, I believe. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 07:26, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)': > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 04:41, a tiny voice compelled Boyd Stephen > Smith > > Jr. to write: > > In konsole you'll want to modify the scheme in use to have a > > transparent (or partially transparent) background (and maybe > > background text color). > > > > The WM-wide transparency is handled with the X composite extension > > (must modify xorg.conf) and kompmgr (which is automagically started > > with your KDE session, if KDE detects the composite extension is > > loaded). The window-bahavior transparency and shadows use kompmgr. > > I tried all this a while back and it used too much cpu. It slowed my > XP2400/1gigRAM system down to unacceptable levels. Has this been > corrected in KDE 3.5.x? I didn't even notice the additional CPU usage, but I'm on 2x 275 Opteron system. I have a friend who is on an 2200+ athlon and he said it started out not so bad and then gradually creeped up until it was 80% of CPU; he did have backing store enabled, IIRC. He also isn't using dual 7800 GTXs either, so that could have something to do with it. Although it was pretty and pretty useful, I turned it off because there's some wierd kopete bug that causes X to crash when opening chat windows. It goes away when I turn composite off in the KDE control panel. (So, the composite extension is present, but kompmgr doesn't really do anything.) I may go back in the future and try to just turn off transparency for kopete windows... I also didn't try it with AllGLXWithCompostie off, but that's because I still want GLX available. Composite is still considered experimental, and GLXWithComposite even more so, so I wouldn't expect it to work for everyone. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 08:11, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)': > aha, thank you for that great explanation. However, I have edited > xorg.conf as required with > > Section "Extensions" >Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection > > and > > Option "RenderAccel" "true" > Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" > > (I have an ati) but I still get the control centre message about > translucency not available... (of course, I restarted X :) Also, is > there supposed to be a command called kompmgr? I can't locate it. Yeah, kompmgr is the KDE-ized version of xcompmgr. You may have to set a USE flag to get it installed. Are you using the monolithic ebuild (kde), metapackage (kde-meta), or some other set of packages? I'm using the metapackage and I get kompmgr like so: # equery b $(which kompmgr) [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kompmgr in *... ] kde-base/kwin-3.5.1 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kompmgr) # emerge -pv '=kde-base/kwin-3.5.1' These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] kde-base/kwin-3.5.1 USE="arts kdeenablefinal xcomposite xinerama -debug" 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB I bet 'xcomposite' is the critical USE flag. Also, I would suggest your turn on the backing store. It's another modification to xorg.conf, but it should pay off with less CPU usage. The gentoo wiki should provide instructions on exactly how to modify your xorg.conf. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb symlink question
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 15:14, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb symlink question': > On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:43:21 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > ln doesn't overwrite symlinks to directories, although this is not > > > mentioned in the man page. Either delete the link first, or emerge > > > your new kernel source with the symlink USE flag. > > > > That's just not true. Heck, I thought you were the one that told me > > about the -n flag (see my other post), Neil. > > Not me, -n is a new one to me. However, my statement was partly true, > the man page doesn't mention that -f doesn't overwrite links to > directories. That's because this case falls under the case "the the target is a directory, make the symlink in (not as) the directory". In fact check this out: $ find | xargs ls -ld drwxr-xr-x 4 bss03 users 100 Feb 14 15:31 . drwxr-xr-x 2 bss03 users 40 Feb 14 15:30 ./bar lrwxrwxrwx 1 bss03 users 3 Feb 14 15:31 ./baz -> bar drwxr-xr-x 3 bss03 users 60 Feb 14 15:30 ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 bss03 users 40 Feb 14 15:30 ./foo/foo $ ln -sf foo baz $ find | xargs ls -ld drwxr-xr-x 4 bss03 users 100 Feb 14 15:31 . drwxr-xr-x 2 bss03 users 60 Feb 14 15:31 ./bar lrwxrwxrwx 1 bss03 users 3 Feb 14 15:31 ./bar/foo -> foo lrwxrwxrwx 1 bss03 users 3 Feb 14 15:31 ./baz -> bar drwxr-xr-x 3 bss03 users 60 Feb 14 15:30 ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 bss03 users 40 Feb 14 15:30 ./foo/foo $ ln -sf foo/foo baz $ find | xargs ls -ld drwxr-xr-x 4 bss03 users 100 Feb 14 15:31 . drwxr-xr-x 2 bss03 users 60 Feb 14 15:32 ./bar lrwxrwxrwx 1 bss03 users 7 Feb 14 15:32 ./bar/foo -> foo/foo lrwxrwxrwx 1 bss03 users 3 Feb 14 15:31 ./baz -> bar drwxr-xr-x 3 bss03 users 60 Feb 14 15:30 ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 bss03 users 40 Feb 14 15:30 ./foo/foo See, it will overwrite a link to a directory. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
060214 b.n. wrote: > I still can't see KDE 3.5 in the stable x86. I'm always grateful for the devs' unpaid work (big smile), but the KDE team does seem a bit over-cautious about stability sometimes. > I don't like to rely on unstable -- crashing, misworking -- apps The only problem I've had with 3.5.0 is Kpdf crashing on a 'recent document'. > Does kde 3.5 pulls in a lot of ~x86 dependencies? Not on this machine. > I don't use KDE itself -- I'm happy with Fluxbox -- > but I use KDE apps very much, Konqueror,Kwrite,Kate,K3b... I have Fluxbox installed as a back-up & configure KDE to be very simple: KDE has an excellent facility for restarting apps with each session & I like different backgrounds for my 10 desktops. 3.5.1 is the current testing version, which I may install next weekend. I recommend using the individual packages, not the big metabuilds. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb symlink question
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:43:21 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > ln doesn't overwrite symlinks to directories, although this is not > > mentioned in the man page. Either delete the link first, or emerge > > your new kernel source with the symlink USE flag. > > That's just not true. Heck, I thought you were the one that told me > about the -n flag (see my other post), Neil. Not me, -n is a new one to me. However, my statement was partly true, the man page doesn't mention that -f doesn't overwrite links to directories. -- Neil Bothwick If everything is coming your way then you're in the wrong lane. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Benno Schulenberg wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: Swap was enabled. $ emerge info [...] Looks fine. Have you tried emerging gcc again, a few times, and does it fail every time in the same spot with the same error? What error does Yes. I tried with CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS="", and with MAKEOPTS="-j1". kpdf give? Does it too fail every time at the same place? Have config.status: executing depfiles commands Good - your configure finished. Start make now make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/kpdf-3.4.3-r4/work/kpdf-3.4.3' Making all in doc make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/kpdf-3.4.3-r4/work/kpdf-3.4.3/doc' Making all in kpdf make[3]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/kpdf-3.4.3-r4/work/kpdf-3.4.3/doc/kpdf' /usr/kde/3.4/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook parser error : out of memory error parser error : out of memory error /bin/sh: line 1: 3831 Segmentation fault /usr/kde/3.4/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook make[3]: *** [index.cache.bz2] Error 139 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kpdf-3.4.3-r4/work/kpdf-3.4.3/doc/kpdf' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kpdf-3.4.3-r4/work/kpdf-3.4.3/doc' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kpdf-3.4.3-r4/work/kpdf-3.4.3' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: kde-base/kpdf-3.4.3-r4 failed. !!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 217, Exitcode 2 !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. (Always at the same place.) you tried closing memory-hungry apps like Firefox? Have you maybe No memory-hungry apps are open, since I'm working through ssh (and there are no other human users). changed the memory timings in the BIOS lately? Perhaps it is time Never touched that. The computer is about 1 year old (but I think the RAM is generic, so I would think about bad RAM, only I can't confirm it through testing...) to dust off the computer on the inside and reseat the mem chips? Perhaps, but that's a somewhat frightening idea! Benno Thanks. Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
You can determine this yourself:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv kde-base/kdebase-meta
Shame on me. I did know... just didn't think about it.
Oh, well, just came back from 10 hours in the lab.
However I did it now and I noticed the USE flag "kdexdeltas", which
description on gentoo-portage.com is:
"kdexdeltas - Makes kde ebuilds download binary diffs rather than
entire new tarballs for every new release"
how is it supposed to work?! does it work for every kind of C flag?
It has been stable for me...no crashes or glitches to speak of. If
you actually use KDE, you need a new version of dbus/hal for hotplug
device integration.
Ok, it should be of no problem for me since I don't use HAL...
Anyway why not search bugs.gentoo.org for this
information?
Right, but this time I have an excuse :). I prefer to hear about "real
life" issues. Things not marked as bugs but that I should be aware of
("it breaks X, it's weird with Y"), things marked as bugs that perhaps
are only seldomly appearing etc.etc.etc.
I think it is important to note that KDE 3.5 has been released as
stable by KDE for some time. It is only the ebuilds that are still
marked as testing.
Yes, I know. But I'm easily scared :P
m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
Jorge Almeida wrote: > Swap was enabled. > $ emerge info > [...] Looks fine. Have you tried emerging gcc again, a few times, and does it fail every time in the same spot with the same error? What error does kpdf give? Does it too fail every time at the same place? Have you tried closing memory-hungry apps like Firefox? Have you maybe changed the memory timings in the BIOS lately? Perhaps it is time to dust off the computer on the inside and reseat the mem chips? Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wierdness with mod_php
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 15:27, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write: > # esearch mod_php > [ Results for search key : mod_php ] > [ Applications found : 1 ] > > * dev-php/mod_php > Latest version available: 4.4.0-r9 > Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] > Size of downloaded files: 5,071 kB > Homepage:http://www.php.net/ > Description: Apache module for PHP > License: PHP-3 > > > # emerge -a mod_php > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild R ] dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0-r9 > > Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n > > Quitting. > > > WHY? > -- > Regards, Ernie # eupdatedb helps sorry -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] K8M800 via video card support
Thanks Benno! 2006/2/14, Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Marco Calviani wrote: > > the unichrome driver became open source, but however > > googling around i've seen many people getting into trouble for > > make it working > > Not many. It's the ones with troubles that are the loudest. :) > > Getting it to work used to be a bit complicated, as you have X and > Mesa and drm and agp and the kernel itself, and it all has to fit > precisely together. Many get it working, however. But it may be > better to ask your question on the openchrome mailing list. > > Benno > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
On 2/14/06, Ryan Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I were to setup a KDE 3.5 environment, what packages aside from kde-base > should I setup with the ~amd64 exception in my /etc/portage/package.keywords > ? ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge -pv kde-base/kdebase-meta I highly recommend using the -meta builds for kdebase, and emerging whatever other KDE applications you want, rather than using the monolithic packages. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
On 2/14/06, b.n. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2)Does kde 3.5 pulls in a lot of ~x86 dependecies? You can determine this yourself: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv kde-base/kdebase-meta > 3)What are current known bugs/instabilities/issues/what of KDE 3.5 > packages I should be aware of? I don't use KDE itself (I'm happy with > Fluxbox) but I use KDE apps very much (Konqueror,Kwrite,Kate,K3b...). It has been stable for me...no crashes or glitches to speak of. If you actually use KDE, you need a new version of dbus/hal for hotplug device integration. Anyway why not search bugs.gentoo.org for this information? I think it is important to note that KDE 3.5 has been released as stable by KDE for some time. It is only the ebuilds that are still marked as testing. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wierdness with mod_php
# esearch mod_php [ Results for search key : mod_php ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * dev-php/mod_php Latest version available: 4.4.0-r9 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 5,071 kB Homepage:http://www.php.net/ Description: Apache module for PHP License: PHP-3 # emerge -a mod_php These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0-r9 Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. WHY? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?
Michael Kintzios wrote: > > From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (New Message, Options, Auto.Spell. -- it remembers the > > setting.) > > Thank you! I'll try it again when I get home. I guess this is > not available in the GUI? (because I couldn't find it). You mean in Settings > Configure KMail? No, I couldn't find it there either. (Time for you to make and submit a patch. :) Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
If I were to setup a KDE 3.5 environment, what packages aside from kde-base should I setup with the ~amd64 exception in my /etc/portage/package.keywords ?On 2/14/06, Steven S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, b.n. wrote:> Hi,> I still can't see KDE 3.5 in the stable x86. Since I'd like to try it, but I> also don't like to rely on unstable (i.e. crashing, misworking) apps very> much, I have a couple of questions for you... >> 1)What is the timeline for having 3.5 stable? If I have to wait still 1 or 2> weeks, I don't mind, otherwise...>> 2)Does kde 3.5 pulls in a lot of ~x86 dependecies?>> 3)What are current known bugs/instabilities/issues/what of KDE 3.5 packages I> should be aware of? I don't use KDE itself (I'm happy with Fluxbox) but I use> KDE apps very much (Konqueror,Kwrite,Kate,K3b...).>> Thanks!> m.>I've been using a totally ~x86 for a long time and never had an issue. KDE 3.5 is working very well, I've not had a crash. I think the main thinggoing to be pulled in by anything is kdelibs, which you'd have to allow tobe ~x86. Just make sure you run emerge -pv packages and it will tell you exactly what it's going to need.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] RE: Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?
Michael Kintzios wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 13 February 2006 23:03 >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled? >> >> >> Ctrl+N, Alt+O, A. >> >> (New Message, Options, Auto.Spell. -- it remembers the setting.) > > Thank you! I'll try it again when I get home. I guess this is not > available in the GUI? (because I couldn't find it). Which is easily explained as I must be going blind lately! Thanks again for your help. :) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, b.n. wrote: Hi, I still can't see KDE 3.5 in the stable x86. Since I'd like to try it, but I also don't like to rely on unstable (i.e. crashing, misworking) apps very much, I have a couple of questions for you... 1)What is the timeline for having 3.5 stable? If I have to wait still 1 or 2 weeks, I don't mind, otherwise... 2)Does kde 3.5 pulls in a lot of ~x86 dependecies? 3)What are current known bugs/instabilities/issues/what of KDE 3.5 packages I should be aware of? I don't use KDE itself (I'm happy with Fluxbox) but I use KDE apps very much (Konqueror,Kwrite,Kate,K3b...). Thanks! m. I've been using a totally ~x86 for a long time and never had an issue. KDE 3.5 is working very well, I've not had a crash. I think the main thing going to be pulled in by anything is kdelibs, which you'd have to allow to be ~x86. Just make sure you run emerge -pv packages and it will tell you exactly what it's going to need. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System Clock Problems
On 2/14/2006 6:32 AM Benno Schulenberg wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I've tried both zeroing this file and removing it altogether. Zeroing doesn't work and if I delete it, it never gets recreated. I've even tried "touch"ing it but it remains empty. After touching it, I chmod it to ntp:ntp but still remains empty. From 'man ntpd': "... After one hour the frequency file is created and the current frequency offset written to it." Right. I should have been more clear. Even after 2 hours, there was no file. I suspected file permissions which is I used chown to set the file to ntp:ntp. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] is kde 3.5 stable enough?
Hi, I still can't see KDE 3.5 in the stable x86. Since I'd like to try it, but I also don't like to rely on unstable (i.e. crashing, misworking) apps very much, I have a couple of questions for you... 1)What is the timeline for having 3.5 stable? If I have to wait still 1 or 2 weeks, I don't mind, otherwise... 2)Does kde 3.5 pulls in a lot of ~x86 dependecies? 3)What are current known bugs/instabilities/issues/what of KDE 3.5 packages I should be aware of? I don't use KDE itself (I'm happy with Fluxbox) but I use KDE apps very much (Konqueror,Kwrite,Kate,K3b...). Thanks! m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
Ernie Schroder wrote: I tried all this a while back and it used too much cpu. It slowed my XP2400/1gigRAM system down to unacceptable levels. Has this been corrected in KDE 3.5.x? Try enabling the backingstore as suggested on the wiki. That solved the slowness problem for me. I'm running KDE 3.5.1. The other option, which is very tempting for me, is to try XGL in Xorg 7. Demo video available at http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/58 Have fun, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?
> -Original Message- > From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 13 February 2006 23:03 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled? > > > Mick wrote: > > For some reason when I reply or create a new message in Kmail the > > dynamic spellchecking is disabled. > > Ctrl+N, Alt+O, A. > > (New Message, Options, Auto.Spell. -- it remembers the setting.) Thank you! I'll try it again when I get home. I guess this is not available in the GUI? (because I couldn't find it). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors problem
Holly Bostick wrote: > This error means that your /usr/src/linux symlink points to unconfigured > kernel sources. Many, if not all, external packages that compile against > the kernel have this requirement. Yes, you are right. My fault, because I always move /usr/src/linux/.config to /boot/config-kernel-x.x.x together with new kernel (to save it). I have put it back and all works. Thanks. Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors problem
Jarry schreef: > > > Is it possible to install lm_sensors with gentoo-kernel too Yes, it is. > > I tried with gentoo-sources, but got this error: > > _ * > Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel > source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found sources for kernel > version: * 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 > > * getfilevar requires 2 variables, with the second a valid file. * > getfilevar * Could not find a usable .config > in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux > points to a configured set of Linux sources. * If you are using > KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that * it points to > the necessary object directory so that it might find .config. > > !!! ERROR: sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.9.2 failed. !!! Function > linux-info_pkg_setup, Line 537, Exitcode 1 !!! Unable to calculate > Linux Kernel version !!! If you need support, post the topmost build > error, NOT this status message. > This error means that your /usr/src/linux symlink points to unconfigured kernel sources. Many, if not all, external packages that compile against the kernel have this requirement. You don't have to make (compile) or install the kernel *right now* (although you will obviously want to do that asap), but you do have to run some type of config (make menuconfig, make xconfig, whatever) and save a configuration with proper support for the sensors before lm_sensors will compile the modules. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] K8M800 via video card support
Marco Calviani wrote: > the unichrome driver became open source, but however > googling around i've seen many people getting into trouble for > make it working Not many. It's the ones with troubles that are the loudest. :) Getting it to work used to be a bit complicated, as you have X and Mesa and drm and agp and the kernel itself, and it all has to fit precisely together. Many get it working, however. But it may be better to ask your question on the openchrome mailing list. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Benno Schulenberg wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: cc1: out of memory allocating 8579592 bytes after a total of 7716864 bytes Swap not enabled? Also, emerge --info output would be helpful. Swap was enabled. $ emerge info Portage 2.0.54 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686) = System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/ /var/qmail/control" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/pub/gentoo http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"; LANG="en_US" MAKEOPTS="-j1" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 X aalib acpi bash-completion bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdb cdparanoia cdr crypt cups curl gif gtk gtk2 imap imlib java jpeg jpeg2k kde maildir motif ncurses nls nptl nsplugin opengl pam pdflib perl pic png posix python qt readline recode ssl tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts xml zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc" Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (again)
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 15:04 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > yes, but you should be able to specify a + OR - for the x and y offset > as well: > > -geometry WxH+Xoffs+Yoffs where > W: width > H: height > Xoffs: x offset* > Yoffs: y offset* > > * x is relative to the left screen edge, if positive, and relative to > right screen edge if negative. > * y is relative to the top screen edge, if positive, and relative to the > bottom screen edge, if negative. I'm running KDE 3.4.3 and got the following results $ konsole -geometry -0+0 (window placed in upper right) $ konsole -geometry +0+0 (window placed in upper left) $ konsole -geometry +0-0 (window placed in upper left) **not correct** $ konsole -geometry -0-0 (window placed in lower right) However all of the following worked correctly: (666x402 corresonds to an 80x24 konsole with my default font) $ konsole -geometry 666x402-0+0 (upper right) $ konsole -geometry 666x402+0+0 (upper left) $ konsole -geometry 666x402+0-0 (lower left) $ konsole -geometry 666x402-0-0 (lower right) With the exception of +0-0, I was able to get consistent results. This probably doesn't help you significantly, but it does indicate that there is some bugginess with -geometry and konsole and that it isn't just your system. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors problem
Is it possible to install lm_sensors with gentoo-kernel too, or only with genkernel? I tried with gentoo-sources, but got this error: _ * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found sources for kernel version: * 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 * getfilevar requires 2 variables, with the second a valid file. *getfilevar * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. * If you are using KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that * it points to the necessary object directory so that it might find .config. !!! ERROR: sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.9.2 failed. !!! Function linux-info_pkg_setup, Line 537, Exitcode 1 !!! Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Display displacement
It is not just the displacement, as i mentionend before the picture is unsharp in some places too. Could this also be fixed with xvidtune. > The "auto" button is for an adustment on your monitor? If so, then > you can fix the X server displacement by creating a better modeline > with xvidtune. > > -Richard > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox locks up when looking at flash
> I guess that's my problem too. How do I know what's using OSS? Can > I just disable it completely while leaving ALSA intact? ALSA usually emulates OSS (it's an kernel building option). You can switch it off, but unfortunately there are still a lot of apps which only can output sound via OSS: Firefox, Skype, you name it. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: user agent switcher - automatic
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:19:10 +, Mick wrote: > Their server sends a test cookie which discriminates against decent > browsers! Firefox won't play. Opera falls apart irrespective of how I > set it to identify itself. The same happens with Konqueror in the > default user agent setting, but it logs in happily in the IE6 setting. Konqueror can have per-site user-agent settings. -- Neil Bothwick "Mr. Worf, scan that ship." "Aye Captain. 300 dpi?" signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
hey, gilberto, how about the grub trouble? use udev, check this out: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part1_chap9 have you heard of RR4? is a live dvd distro based on gentoo: http://www.lxnaydesign.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=27 and so is vida linux: http://www.vidalinux.com/ []'s claudio. On 2/14/06, Gilberto Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not likely to happen during installation, but if you use udev, the > > device nodes may not exist in your backups (depending upon how you do > > your backups...). So a restore of a backup of your root filesystem > > from a crash recovery or live CD may not restore any device nodes to > > your root filesystem. > > Well, I am not using udev. It is a install from scratch. So there is no > backup. > > > > > Anyway, ignore my message...I didn't quite understand that the problem > > was resolved. > No way, pal. Now I will read about udev, and see if I can get some > advantage out of it. 8) > > Thanks!!! > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] GConf Error
Hello to everybody, Since some day I get this error while starting Gnome: > >GConf Error: Error contactiong the configuration server; it may be > >necessary to enable necessario TCP/IP support for ORBit or there may be > >an old NFS lock due to system crash. Please see > >http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ (Detail - 1: Error converting IOR > >"" referencing an object 2: Error converting IOR "" referencing an > >object 2) > >EGConf Error: Error contactiong the configuration server; it may be > >necessary to enable necessario TCP/IP support for ORBit or there may be > >an old NFS lock due to system crash. Gnome doesn't start in a good way. I can see only the desktop, but without any icons Other info: - I have tried to re-emerge everything in system and world but without success. - I have tried to log as root to try (I never do it). - I have tried to look at http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ - I think this is a permission problem - KDE is working perfectly Does anybody have some idea/suggestion/other_tries? Thanks. ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] DEVPATH not set (subsystem pci)
My system has this message in the log from several times: Feb 14 10:41:45 archie hal.hotplug[11262]: DEVPATH is not set (subsystem pci) I just updated the system last week and that included a bump in udev and hal. However, another system which is nearly the same architecture was also updated and it doesn't have this message in the log at boot... What do I do to fix this problem? So far, I think things work as they should, but it looks like a problem waiting to happen... -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (again)
On 2/13/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I have some eye candy I want to bring from Gnome - transparent > konsole is the first. Right click in the Konsole window, select Settings->Schema-> and a transparent schema. You can also modify an existing or create a new schema with Settings->Configure Konsole > Secondly, I start konsole with the following command (from another > konsole): > > konsole --geometry -0-0 The KDE window manager doesn't really support this. It is probably better to use window-specific settings in the window manager. 1. Right click on a title-bar, select "Configure Window Behavior..." 2. Select "Window-Specific Settings" and "New..." 3. Click the "Detect" button and click on a Konsole window. 4. Under Geometry, turn on the "Position" checkbox, set it to remember. Now you can position/resize your konsole like you want, and KDE will remember it. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] K8M800 via video card support
Hi Daniel, thanks for sharing your experience. The only "problem" in getting an Nvidia or ATI video card is that they rely on closed source proprietary drivers (apart for "older" ATI card for which the xorg radeon drivers works well); on the contrary i've seen that the unichrome driver became open source, but however googling around i've seen many people getting into trouble for make it working thanks again, MC 2006/2/14, Daniel da Veiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I had one of this Via cards, different than yours, it was a KM400, but > they're all Unychrome family (still have it onboard, only disabled), > and it was a hell of a time getting it to work, in fact, I had to get > an unstable Xorg, compile some stuff myself and getting a new opengl > driver to copy over the old one. > > Of course, now things are better, the Xorg version now unmasked if I'm > not mistaken offers support for this card, and you should have less > problems making it work, I can tell you it works, it has direct > rendering and I was able to configure it with some work and lots of > search (specially hard because I only had this machine and all search > was done using links in text mode). > > Sincerely, on of the best things I've done was getting my NVidia video > card, and NForce chipset is way better than VIA, but that's IMHO, > invest more money and get a better mobo. > > On 2/14/06, Marco Calviani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi list, > >i would like to buy a motherboard which uses a K8M800 chipset. Does > > Xorg drivers offers 2D/3D acceleration for this card? Anyone has > > experience with it using gentoo? > > > > Best regards, > > MC > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > -- > Daniel da Veiga > Computer Operator - RS - Brazil > -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- > Version: 3.1 > GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- > PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ > --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] K8M800 via video card support
I had one of this Via cards, different than yours, it was a KM400, but they're all Unychrome family (still have it onboard, only disabled), and it was a hell of a time getting it to work, in fact, I had to get an unstable Xorg, compile some stuff myself and getting a new opengl driver to copy over the old one. Of course, now things are better, the Xorg version now unmasked if I'm not mistaken offers support for this card, and you should have less problems making it work, I can tell you it works, it has direct rendering and I was able to configure it with some work and lots of search (specially hard because I only had this machine and all search was done using links in text mode). Sincerely, on of the best things I've done was getting my NVidia video card, and NForce chipset is way better than VIA, but that's IMHO, invest more money and get a better mobo. On 2/14/06, Marco Calviani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi list, >i would like to buy a motherboard which uses a K8M800 chipset. Does > Xorg drivers offers 2D/3D acceleration for this card? Anyone has > experience with it using gentoo? > > Best regards, > MC > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Display displacement
> Now when i switch with CTRL-ALT-F1-6 through my consoles they are > displaced. On CTRL-ALT-F7 where my X-Server runs the picture is fine. > When i fix it in the consoles with the "Auto-Button" the X-Server on > F7 is displaced. The "auto" button is for an adustment on your monitor? If so, then you can fix the X server displacement by creating a better modeline with xvidtune. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet Module (3c59x) not recognized
On 14 Feb 2006, at 13:27, Gilberto Martins wrote: ... I tried to compile the kernel following the guidelines in the handbook, like make menuconfig, make and make module_install. But it seems the the modules were not generated. I tried "find /usr/ -iname "*"3c59x*" but only the source code was listed. I was expecting to find the "*.ko". What I missed? The Quick Install Guide gives the spelling as: `make && make modules_install` Stroller -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] PHP fails
I'm trying to emerge php here and do some playing around. I don't have apache on this box but installed monkeyd as a light weight webserver. Emerge php fails as below checking for tgetent in -lncurses... no checking for tgetent in -ltermcap... no checking for readline in -lreadline... no configure: error: readline library not found !!! ERROR: dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5 failed. !!! Function php5_0-sapi_src_compile, Line 516, Exitcode 1 !!! configure failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. $ locate libreadline /usr/lib/libreadline.so /usr/lib/libreadline.a /lib/libreadline.so /lib/libreadline.so.4 /lib/libreadline.so.5 /lib/libreadline.so.4.3 /lib/libreadline.so.5.0 Some help? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] K8M800 via video card support
Hi list, i would like to buy a motherboard which uses a K8M800 chipset. Does Xorg drivers offers 2D/3D acceleration for this card? Anyone has experience with it using gentoo? Best regards, MC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (again)
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 06:34, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 00:54 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 00:35, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > Welcome to my post, and remember to leave your flamewars at the door :) > > > > > > I've just installed KDE for the first time in a couple of years. It > > > seems to have come a long way. > > > > > > However, I have some eye candy I want to bring from Gnome - transparent > > > konsole is the first. > > > > turn on transparency in controll center (Arbeitsfläche is the menupoint > > ins german, shouild be desktop in english, below it, there is 'window > > properties' or so, where you can turn on transparency) > > I found "translucency" - is that it? I couldn't turn it on because it > asks for Xorg ≥ 6.8 (which I have) and some Xconfig changes. Is this > really necessary? I had a transparent terminal with kde once already, > and I didn't do anything special... > > > > Secondly, I start konsole with the following command (from another > > > konsole): > > > > > > konsole --geometry -0-0 > > > > it works with > > konsole -geometry 0x0 > > and > > konsole -geometry +0+0 > > > > see the singe - ? > > yes, but you should be able to specify a + OR - for the x and y offset > as well: > > -geometry WxH+Xoffs+Yoffs where > W: width > H: height > Xoffs: x offset* > Yoffs: y offset* > > * x is relative to the left screen edge, if positive, and relative to > right screen edge if negative. > * y is relative to the top screen edge, if positive, and relative to the > bottom screen edge, if negative. > > > > what's going on?!! > > > > - not -- > > I tried - instead of -- and the results are the same: -0-0 is not > implemented properly... what do you mean with 'properly'? where should konsole pop up? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge
Hi, On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:43:33 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 03:31, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > about 'Re: [gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge': > > [...] > > If you /do/ want to do packet filtering on br0, I belive you can with > iptables. A rule with in the filter table on the FORWARDING chain with -i > br0 -o br0 should match. You could also do some logging this way. Nah, bridging is ethernet layer, not IP layer. So it will work using ebtables, not iptables. OTOH, when building a bridge, it usually doesn't make much sense to set up lots of rules for security's sake, but rather in order to reduce chattiness between the bridged networks (one may want to filter broadcasts and other noisy stuff). > > I also wanted to know if there's a need for iptables, mainly for > > security. But since there isnt' an ip addressed to br0, I would presume > > that it is safe, but I thought I'll check here 1st. > > I really can't answer the safety issue. From my understanding packets > coming in br0 and be delivered locally, even when br0 doesn't have an IP > address (and similarly with sending packets out br0) so I don't think not > having an IP address really buys you any safety. It certainly does, but OTOH, the OP wrote he'll set up a third ethernet adapter for connecting to the bridging machine, so iptables may make sense on that interface. The FORWARD chain of iptables is only for forwarding IP packets (heh, it's obvious, isn't it? :-), i.e. when building a router. Well, I think it should be possible to redirect bridged packets to the local host in order to let them go through routing, but this seems to be a little cludgy, because the same thing probably can be archieved by using proxy_arp in the first place, which would save us from using promiscuous mode... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge troubles
Jorge Almeida wrote: > cc1: out of memory allocating 8579592 bytes after a total of > 7716864 bytes Swap not enabled? Also, emerge --info output would be helpful. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] lm_sensors question.
James wrote: > hddtemp /dev/hda < for example> > /dev/hda: HTS726060M9AT00: 44 C # hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 22 C This doesn't look right, as system temperature is shown as 29°C. At startup hddtemp reported 12 C, while room temperature is 17°C. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 Disk insert feature
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:51:48 -0700, Ian wrote: > I installed KDE 3.5 with the split ebuilds, emerging the minimum: > konqueror, kdesktop, kcontrol, konsole, kicker, etc... > I noticed that I dont get that dialog box that appears when KDE finds a > new medium for data. (CD, Jumpdrive) > Do you know what I should install to get it? You need kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves and make sure you have 'hal' in USE. -- Neil Bothwick This is as bad as it can get-but don't bet on it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] System Clock Problems
Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I've tried both zeroing this file and removing it altogether. > Zeroing doesn't work and if I delete it, it never gets recreated. > I've even tried "touch"ing it but it remains empty. After > touching it, I chmod it to ntp:ntp but still remains empty. >From 'man ntpd': "... After one hour the frequency file is created and the current frequency offset written to it." Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (cvs repositories)
> 2006/2/14, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all KDE lovers, > > Is there a way to use some sort of graphical CVS plugin for > konqueror? > Or any program other than tkcvs? > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 09:07 +0100, jose javier parra sanchez wrote: > cervisia for cvs > kdesvn for subversion. Thanks. cervisia looks good - I'll have to wait til I get to work to try it out. Is there any way of "integrating" it to kde, so that cvs related files have different colours, or emblems, or something? There is a cool (M$) explorer extension for windows called Tortoise CVS, which plays with icon colours, emblems, and lets you do right click- cvs commands from explorer. thanks, -- Iain Buchanan She used to diet on any kind of food she could lay her hands on. -Arthur Baer, American comic and columnist -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 03:41 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Kicker and Konsole both support a limited form of transparency. You'll set > this limited form up through kicker/koncole specific configurations. > > In konsole you'll want to modify the scheme in use to have a transparent > (or partially transparent) background (and maybe background text color). > > The WM-wide transparency is handled with the X composite extension (must > modify xorg.conf) and kompmgr (which is automagically started with your > KDE session, if KDE detects the composite extension is loaded). The > window-bahavior transparency and shadows use kompmgr. aha, thank you for that great explanation. However, I have edited xorg.conf as required with Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection and Option "RenderAccel" "true" Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" (I have an ati) but I still get the control centre message about translucency not available... (of course, I restarted X :) Also, is there supposed to be a command called kompmgr? I can't locate it. thanks, -- Iain Buchanan Who loves me will also love my dog. -- John Donne -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gateway tring to emerge xorg, don´t know why
thank you guys, problem solved !!! On 2/14/06, Nagatoro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > > Hi Gentoo-List, I am having a bit of a problem with my gentoo box > > running as a gateway/proxy. > > > > I am trying to update it and I my box without my concern want to > > emerge xorg ( snip ) > > emerge -pvDu world returns: > > [blocks B ] > app-text/poppler-0.5.0-r4) > [...] > > any one has a clue about what is wrong and why it wants to emerge xorg ? > > You have an outdated xpdf installation. unmerge it and try again. > > -- > Naga > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- An application asked: "Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better", so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet Module (3c59x) not recognized
Hi again. > I'm a bit confused by Gilberto's statement: "Of course I had no > network for this." > If you mean that "I have no networking because of this error" and the > modprobe line above makes no difference then I might be inclined to > swap the network card out for another one. Yeah, that is what I intended to say, sorry for that. Probably I was sleepy ... But worst than not finding the module to be loaded, is executing "lsmod" and having nothing listed. I tried to compile the kernel following the guidelines in the handbook, like make menuconfig, make and make module_install. But it seems the the modules were not generated. I tried "find /usr/ -iname "*"3c59x*" but only the source code was listed. I was expecting to find the "*.ko". What I missed? I see the problem is not relative to the nic module, but to any module. Guess I should gather more details and start a new thread. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 04:41, a tiny voice compelled Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. to write: > In konsole you'll want to modify the scheme in use to have a transparent > (or partially transparent) background (and maybe background text color). > > The WM-wide transparency is handled with the X composite extension (must > modify xorg.conf) and kompmgr (which is automagically started with your > KDE session, if KDE detects the composite extension is loaded). The > window-bahavior transparency and shadows use kompmgr. I tried all this a while back and it used too much cpu. It slowed my XP2400/1gigRAM system down to unacceptable levels. Has this been corrected in KDE 3.5.x? -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gateway tring to emerge xorg, don´t know why
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > Hi Gentoo-List, I am having a bit of a problem with my gentoo box > running as a gateway/proxy. > > I am trying to update it and I my box without my concern want to > emerge xorg ( snip ) > emerge -pvDu world returns: > [blocks B ] any one has a clue about what is wrong and why it wants to emerge xorg ? You have an outdated xpdf installation. unmerge it and try again. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gateway tring to emerge xorg, don´t know why
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > [ebuild N] app-text/ghostscript-esp-7.07.1-r8 -X -cjk +cups > -emacs +gtk 2 kB That's the reason. > PS my USE flags are: > USE="logrotate -X -gnome -motif -kde -qt -png" Add -gtk to your USE flags. HTH. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gateway tring to emerge xorg, don´t know why
Hi Gentoo-List, I am having a bit of a problem with my gentoo box running as a gateway/proxy. I am trying to update it and I my box without my concern want to emerge xorg ( snip ) emerge -pvDu world returns: [blocks B ]
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
> Not likely to happen during installation, but if you use udev, the > device nodes may not exist in your backups (depending upon how you do > your backups...). So a restore of a backup of your root filesystem > from a crash recovery or live CD may not restore any device nodes to > your root filesystem. Well, I am not using udev. It is a install from scratch. So there is no backup. > > Anyway, ignore my message...I didn't quite understand that the problem > was resolved. No way, pal. Now I will read about udev, and see if I can get some advantage out of it. 8) Thanks!!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On 14 February 2006 09:12, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 07:40 +0100, Harm Geerts wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 06:34, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 00:54 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 00:35, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > > > > > > turn on transparency in controll center (Arbeitsfläche is the > > > > menupoint ins german, shouild be desktop in english, below it, there > > > > is 'window properties' or so, where you can turn on transparency) > > > > > > I found "translucency" - is that it? I couldn't turn it on because it > > > asks for Xorg ≥ 6.8 (which I have) and some Xconfig changes. Is this > > > really necessary? I had a transparent terminal with kde once already, > > > and I didn't do anything special... > > > > Yes that's it, and yes you do have to change some settings in xorg.conf > > if you haven't done so already. > > why? I have panel transparency? already, so why do I need to do > something special for konsole transparency? The panel doesn't use the alpha channel. That's fine for the panel because you usually don't move it around a lot. Windows like konsole, on the other hand, can be dragged around. If you do that with a transparent window not using the alpha channel it eats a *lot* of CPU. Uwe -- Why do consumers keep buying products they will live to curse? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 03:31, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge':
> On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 18:38 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Sunday 12 February 2006 20:58, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> >
> > about '[gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge':
> > > Just got a bridge setup to put in to monitor network traffic. I
> > > wonder if there's a need to put in iptables/ebtables into it.
>
> I only asked this question because I am paranoid and when building
> internet connected servers, being paranoid is a good thing(tm).
Agreed.
If you /do/ want to do packet filtering on br0, I belive you can with
iptables. A rule with in the filter table on the FORWARDING chain with -i
br0 -o br0 should match. You could also do some logging this way.
> I also wanted to know if there's a need for iptables, mainly for
> security. But since there isnt' an ip addressed to br0, I would presume
> that it is safe, but I thought I'll check here 1st.
I really can't answer the safety issue. From my understanding packets
coming in br0 and be delivered locally, even when br0 doesn't have an IP
address (and similarly with sending packets out br0) so I don't think not
having an IP address really buys you any safety.
That said, I'm a newbie or worse when it comes to these issues. I've just
recently started learning iptables.
> > > the bridge(br0) does not have an ip address.
> >
> > That seems wrong to me, my bridge device (between the two GB eithernet
> > ports on my MB) does indeed get an IP address and neither eth0/1 gets
> > one.
>
> Yes. That's right, eth0 and eth1 don't get an ip.
> /etc/conf.d/net contains
> config_eth0("null")
> config_eth1("null")
>
> I don't put an IP on the bridge (Br0) because there isn't a need for
> one. What I do is put another eth card (eth2) into the mix and put a
> private IP into it for SSH access and admin etc.
Okay; I use my br0 as my connection to the local network, so I do assign a
(sDHCP) address to it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] MythTV users - read before updating to 0.19
Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >I just wasted an hour so I thought maybe I could save someone else > the problems. The new MythTV 0.19 rev that's out in portage doesn't > work with an older mythbackend server running version 0.18. Apparently > you have to update both ends at the same time. Of course portage is > not smart enough to know the server is running elsewhere on the > network and save me the problem so I'm dropping back to the 0.18 > frontend on my desktop. This has, I think, always been the case. I once emerged a newer frontend, connected back to the server and it didn't work. Worse, by connecting it the frontend UPDATED the mysql tables, so the backend ceased functioning altogether (...!). A nice DoS. I wrote to the mythtv list regarding this behaviour (I called it a bug) but it was deemed neccessary ie. not a bug at all since some extensions in the frontend run standalone (like weather, etc.) so the frontend has to update the db. I was not satisfied with that answer, but what can you do... I has no other than updating the backend too, since there is no rollback possibility. The next MythTV update I do will have to be carefully planned, since I deploy one backend and 4 frontends... Maybe this behaviour has changed by now though, since from your post I gather your backend still works fine. Still, my strong advice is: always always backup the mysql db before attempting to connect ANY newer version MythTV frontend. >I hope this saves someone else the time. Hear hear. Maarten > Cheers, > Mark > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
Gilberto Martins wrote: > What is OP ? > _O_riginal _P_oster, I believe. Maarten -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Display displacement
Thank you, @Ian i have the old 2.6.14-r5 kernel with nvidia 1.0-6629 in /boot and in grub.conf, this configuration works. But i don' think it is necessary to check this out, because as i mentioned before, i have the displacement with the old and the new nvidia-driver. So i think it is a framebuffer-problem. The only thing i can check is the new nvidia-driver with the old kernel, because the new kernel does not work with the old nvdia-driver, as you can see below. @All For the better understanding i will post the hole story together. I updated to kernel 2.6.15-r1, which results in the display displacement, splash-theme starting up late and nvidia-driver not working at all. According to the recommendations of this list i upgraded to kernel 2.6.15-r4 and nvidia 1.0-8178, it solved the splash and the nvidia problem, but the display displacement still remains. Now when i switch with CTRL-ALT-F1-6 through my consoles they are displaced. On CTRL-ALT-F7 where my X-Server runs the picture is fine. When i fix it in the consoles with the "Auto-Button" the X-Server on F7 is displaced. Is there something wrong with the console framebuffer? For updating to kernel 2.6.15-r1 i used my old kernel config After i have done make menuconfig it shows me this output .config:1317:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol FB_SOFT_CURSOR .config:1426:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol USB_BLUETOOTH_TTY Does the FB in FB_SOFT_CURSOR not mean FrameBuffer. Thank you for any recommendations! Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge troubles
I'm unable to emerge gcc: 17012 all allocated states, 101385 all allocated arcs 20258 all allocated alternative states 4765 all transition comb vector els, 13107 all trans table els 4765 all state alts comb vector els, 13107 all state alts table els 13107 all min delay table els 0 locked states num transformation: 0.016001, building DFA: 7.968497 DFA minimization: 0.468029, making insn equivalence: 0.00 all automaton generation: 8.536533, output: 0.144009 /bin/sh /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/move-if-change tmp-attrtab.c insn-attrtab.c echo timestamp > s-attrtab stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fprofile-generate -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -pedantic -Wno-long-long -Wold-style-definition -DHAVE_CONFIG_H-I. -I. -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/. -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/../include -c insn-attrtab.c \ -o insn-attrtab.o cc1: out of memory allocating 8579592 bytes after a total of 7716864 bytes make[2]: *** [insn-attrtab.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/build/gcc' make[1]: *** [stageprofile_build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/build/gcc' make: *** [profiledbootstrap] Error 2 !!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1 failed. !!! Function gcc_do_make, Line 1339, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed with profiledbootstrap !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. The problem appeared when emerging -DNu world. It failed with kpdf. Then I tried to emerge binutils glibc gcc and it failed at gcc. Assuming a hardware problem, I tried a script I read about on a recent thread: http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html The script executed without a whisper. The box has 1GB RAM, P4 3GHz, no overclocking. The system is up to date. revdep-rebuild seems happy, except for wanting to re-emerge openoffice-bin, always. What else can I do? Is there some other test for hw failure? I can't try memtest now (I'm away from the box) but it didn't report errors last time I checked, not too long ago. -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
Gilberto Martins schreef: > > You are right. I pointed it to hdb1 and not to hdb3. It is working. Hurrah!! > > What is OP ? > "Original Post" or "Original Poster", referring to the person who started a thread if you forgot their name and don't have time to scroll back through a long thread to find it. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Max Number of Partitions
Mick wrote: > If I read you right, then /usr will behave the same with regards to data > fragmentation (in the non-LVM sense of the word) whether in a primary > partition on its own, or in a LV also on its own? Yes, exactly. Alexander Skwar -- Captain: "You would have done the same." Mal: "You can already see I haven't. Now get the hell off my ship." -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 01:12, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trying KDE (again)': > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 07:40 +0100, Harm Geerts wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 06:34, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 00:54 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 00:35, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > > > > > > turn on transparency in controll center > > > > > > I found "translucency" - is that it? > > > > Yes that's it, and yes you do have to change some settings in > > xorg.conf if you haven't done so already. > > why? I have panel transparency? already, so why do I need to do > something special for konsole transparency? Kicker and Konsole both support a limited form of transparency. You'll set this limited form up through kicker/koncole specific configurations. In konsole you'll want to modify the scheme in use to have a transparent (or partially transparent) background (and maybe background text color). The WM-wide transparency is handled with the X composite extension (must modify xorg.conf) and kompmgr (which is automagically started with your KDE session, if KDE detects the composite extension is loaded). The window-bahavior transparency and shadows use kompmgr. The limited transparency is not, for what i understand, hw accelerated and shows the desktop background never other windows. The kompmgr transparency can be hw accelerated and will also show other windows, not just teh desktop background. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
> -Original Message- > From: Maarten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 13 February 2006 17:49 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the > installation of Gentoo > > > Richard Fish wrote: > >>Now, after rebooting, it really went straight, with text menu. It > >>starts loading really fast the system,but all of a sudden, a "Kernel > >>Panic" says: > >> > >>Warning - Unable to open an initial console > >>Kernel panic - not suncing: No init found. Try passing > init= option to kernel > > > > > > This message usually means you are missing /dev/console on > your root filesystem. > > That warning, yes. > But the error right after that means what it says: No init > found, ie. it > has mounted a filesystem (else you get another error-: Kernel panic - > cannot mount root partition) but it is unable to find 'init' there. > From that, one can deduce the OP probably pointed the kernel to the > wrong root partition (ie. /boot, or /usr, etc.) . . or, on a multipartition installation they've missed out some rather important directory which needs to be in / for it to boot, like e.g. /sbin. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 18:38 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Sunday 12 February 2006 20:58, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> about '[gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge':
> > Just got a bridge setup to put in to monitor network traffic. I wonder
> > if there's a need to put in iptables/ebtables into it.
>
> While I have seen iptables rules like -i br0 -o br0 ACCEPT, I do not think
> they are necessary normally. I know my bridge device will move traffic
> from eth0 to eth1 and vice-versa without iptables (I don't think it's even
> in my kernel).
I only asked this question because I am paranoid and when building
internet connected servers, being paranoid is a good thing(tm).
>From what I read, putting iptables/ebtables is for using the bridge as
an in-place-firewall (transparently etc).
I also wanted to know if there's a need for iptables, mainly for
security. But since there isnt' an ip addressed to br0, I would presume
that it is safe, but I thought I'll check here 1st.
>
> > the bridge(br0) does not have an ip address.
>
> That seems wrong to me, my bridge device (between the two GB eithernet
> ports on my MB) does indeed get an IP address and neither eth0/1 gets one.
Yes. That's right, eth0 and eth1 don't get an ip.
/etc/conf.d/net contains
config_eth0("null")
config_eth1("null")
I don't put an IP on the bridge (Br0) because there isn't a need for
one. What I do is put another eth card (eth2) into the mix and put a
private IP into it for SSH access and admin etc.
> Might check this out:
> http://www.headnut.org/files/linux-gentoo_bridge_guide.txt
Have read through it (again) I believe i"ve seen this before when I was
researching bridges
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[gentoo-user] Rhythmbox and Audioscrobbler
I thought I'd give the latest Rhythmbox a try with the scocial music audoscrobbler system. When I emerged it it all ran fine but even with the username and password in the audioscrobbler box I'm not seeing my last.fm page update. I enebaled musicbrainz in my make.conf in case that was it but no dice. I've looked at the network traffic but I can't see any going to audioscrobbler so I'm guessing rhythmbox is just not sending it. Anyone else got this working? -- Alex, homepage: http://www.bennee.com/~alex/ It's not the valleys in life I dread so much as the dips. -- Garfield -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (cvs repositories)
cervisia for cvskdesvn for subversion.2006/2/14, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi all KDE lovers,Is there a way to use some sort of graphical CVS plugin for konqueror?Or any program other than tkcvs?My main gripe with tkcvs is every time I select "remove from archive", it deletes the file locally as well!! Luckily I have backups!But it would be nice to use cvs actions (checkin, update, etc) fromkonqueror.Googling is useless in this case, as all the results for cvs just point me to cvs versions of kde apps...thanks,--Iain Buchanan If this were Ada, I suppose we'd just constant fold 1/0 intodie "Illegal division by zero" -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
