Re: [gentoo-user] neon: endless up-/down-grade
Hi Richard On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:07:36 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/06, Andreas Schoelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all each world update either updates or downgrades neon depending on the version just installed at that moment. It is a _very_ long-standing bug in portage that doesn't deal with some dependancy situtations very well. [1] The answer is usually to mask the newer version. echo # required by rapidsvn-0.9.0-r1 /etc/portage/package.mask echo =net-misc/neon-0.24.7 /etc/portage/package.mask Sounds good, ... but: I performed a revdep-rebuild in between which did the downgrade of neon to 0.24.7, but the remerge of rapidsvn failed then. ---8--- from the err output: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: libneon.so.26, needed by /usr/lib/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) /usr/lib/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so: undefined reference to `ne_get_content_type' /usr/lib/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so: undefined reference to `ne_get_response_header' /usr/lib/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so: undefined reference to `ne_has_support' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [rapidsvn] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: dev-util/rapidsvn-0.9.0-r1 failed. ---8--- I now read that rapisvn-0.9.0-r1 depends on the newer version of neon. Is that correct? My portage tree is in sync concerning neon and rapidsvn. Maybe I have to find out how to fix the ebuild of rapidsvn to make it build on my system. Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome and mono-tools blocking
Hi Jesús On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:11:30 +0200 Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My favorite browser is firefox, but how do I tell both of mono-tools and gnome about that? Andreas AFAIK, USE=firefox will remove the dep on seamonkey and that stuff. I dont use gnome though, maybe someone can confirm this. This helps with gnome. But why does USE=mozilla *not* help? Also mozilla is a web-client. BTW: I only use some apps of gnome, maybe I should not emerge the whole gnome thing at all. Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] neon: endless up-/down-grade
On 7/30/06, Andreas Schoelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good, ... but: I performed a revdep-rebuild in between which did the downgrade of neon to 0.24.7, but the remerge of rapidsvn failed then. Hmm, maybe try to emerge --unmerge rapidsvn and then re-merge it. Another alternative to the package.mask solution: accept the ~arch version of rapidsvn (0.9.3), which works with =neon-0.26. You can do this with (assuming you are on the x86 arch): echo ~dev-util/rapidsvn-0.9.3 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail
Dear All,Which is the best for organization mail server.Thanks rgds.Suranga
Re: [gentoo-user] depclean screw up
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:29:06 -0700, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: If you run emerge -av --noreplace on all the packages that emerge -av --depclean wants to clean, then depclean will no longer complain. This is equivalent to fixing low oil pressure in your car by disconnecting the oil warning light. -- Neil Bothwick Marriage is a relationship in which one person is always right and the other is a husband signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] configurtion error
I got this when switching the user. Any advice would help. Thanks, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ su root Password: configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_ROOTPATH' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator) asterius nabokov # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] configurtion error
Hi, Alex Fortwinder a écrit : I got this when switching the user. Any advice would help. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-366499.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user
command not found. As root everything is ok. Suggestions? Alex. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user
Alex Fortwinder a écrit : command not found. As root everything is ok. Suggestions? # emerge sudo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail
Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. sendmail has had numerous holes way back then. And I dislike the configuration language. So, I'd suggest postfix or exim. I personally use Postfix always. It's featureful and easy enough to configure. Alexander Skwar -- Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user
Done. Example on how to use it? I tried sodo -u to no avail. Thanks Alex. On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:19:57 +0200 Fabrice Delliaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Fortwinder a écrit : command not found. As root everything is ok. Suggestions? # emerge sudo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user
On 7/31/06, Fabrice Delliaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Sudo_config There's an official guide, as well: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/sudo-guide.xml -- ellotheth rimmwen * monjoy * -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail
On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. sendmail has had numerous holes way back then. And I dislike the configuration language. So, I'd suggest postfix or exim. I personally use Postfix always. It's featureful and easy enough to configure. I would beg to differ with the statement about security. Qmail is arguably THE MOST secure mail server (http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html). That said, I use postfix and love it. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation questions
Collins Richey wrote: The only gotcha I found was with the xorg modular installation. After completing the basic installation, I did an 'emerge xfce4' and let portage calculate all the dependancies including xorg. When all was said and done, I discovered that the automatic dependancy selection had not included the keyboard and mouse modules for xorg, so I had to emerge these manually. Did you remember to add the line: INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse to your /etc/make.conf? This should pull in the keyboard and mouse stuff automatically. R -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail
Michael Crute wrote: On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. I would beg to differ with the statement about security. Qmail is arguably THE MOST secure mail server (http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html). Actually, it is NOT. DJB made this statement but he doesn't stand to it. See http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html for a quite big collection of bugs and RFC violations of qmail. To quote from that page: | The security guarantee is a smoke ball. Several people, among | them Wietse Venema and Georgi Guninski, have documented exploitable | qmail security bugs, yet the USD 500 have never been paid to either | of them. Bye, Alexander Skwar -- I'm in Pittsburgh. Why am I here? -- Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user
On Monday 31 July 2006 16:28, Alex Fortwinder wrote: Thanks again, but... nothing is changed? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo -l User nabokov may run the following commands on this host: (ALL) ALL [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ pppoe-stop bash: pppoe-stop: command not found Try sudo pppoe-stop. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail
On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Crute wrote: On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. I would beg to differ with the statement about security. Qmail is arguably THE MOST secure mail server (http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html). Actually, it is NOT. DJB made this statement but he doesn't stand to it. See http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html for a quite big collection of bugs and RFC violations of qmail. To quote from that page: I'm not here to start a war over the merits of any one MTA... but I think it's worth reading DJBs rebuttal of the accusations made by Postfix's author. http://cr.yp.to/qmail/venema.html -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dev/tty1 permission denied
Alex Fortwinder wrote: When I start screen as a user, I got the following: Cannot open your teminal 'dev/tty1' - please check. When I run w3m in console it says that permission denied to dev/tty1 How to set up permission? Thanks Alex chmod 666 /dev/tty1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dev/tty1 permission denied
quoth the Mike: Alex Fortwinder wrote: When I start screen as a user, I got the following: Cannot open your teminal 'dev/tty1' - please check. When I run w3m in console it says that permission denied to dev/tty1 How to set up permission? Thanks Alex chmod 666 /dev/tty1 Or better: add your user to 'tty' group in /etc/group... -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgp3r7ZZSbNMF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail
Alexander Skwar wrote: Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. Some clarification on the security of qmail: qmail has no known holes be default other than still playing the MTA game by 1998 rules which is are problems and almost as annoying as security issues. Patches like 0.0.0.0, limit-bounce size, etc solve most of those. It also has very few features which is sort of the root of the problem. In order to get features (and performance) you have to patch the hell out of qmail which is of course no longer the secure default build. The 1.0.3-r16 ebuild has 29 possible patches. It's through the patches that security problems are likely to be introduced, but IIRC there has one been one or two that have been found at least in mature non bleeding edges patches. and then on performance: qmail can be made to perform, but you have to add the performance patches (qmailqueue, big-todo, big-concurrency) and do much more tuning that you'd need to do with any other mail servers. However the one mail per TCP session is one thing you can't get around and will limit the speed of large installations. Most home user or small business users won't run into that. Or you can install Postfix/Sendmail/Exim which have had actual development over the last eight years. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome and mono-tools blocking
El Lunes, 31 de Julio de 2006 18:58, Richard Fish escribió: On 7/31/06, Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tinkered a bit with this and came along with this ebuild (i have no idea You could have saved yourself some trouble by reading the ChangeLog for yelp, which contains: 02 Jul 2006; John N. Laliberte [EMAIL PROTECTED] -yelp-2.6.5.ebuild, -yelp-2.10.0.ebuild, +yelp-2.12.2-r1.ebuild, +yelp-2.14.2-r2.ebuild: convert from mozilla to seamonkey. remove old ebuilds. So this ebuild used to support mozilla, but it was changed. I wonder why? Yeah, its true. It was a couple of minutes only, though :P http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137665 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/39923/focus=39923 If you find it useful, feel free to open a but in bugzilla and feel free to submit this modiffied ebuild, so it can go into portage and you dont have to mess with ebuild in the future. This is unlikely, as mozilla is being removed. That is what I though, as I said, im not a gnome user. So, had no real idea to make an affirmation. Never cared about mozilla either. I bet that taking a look at the changelog is far more time consumming than inserting 3 words into an ebuild :P Anyway, there is the ebuild in case someone wants to use it while mozilla is still in this realm hehe. But I would think about changing to any other browser- Jesús. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation questions
On 7/31/06, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins Richey wrote: The only gotcha I found was with the xorg modular installation. After completing the basic installation, I did an 'emerge xfce4' and let portage calculate all the dependancies including xorg. When all was said and done, I discovered that the automatic dependancy selection had not included the keyboard and mouse modules for xorg, so I had to emerge these manually. Did you remember to add the line: INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse to your /etc/make.conf? This should pull in the keyboard and mouse stuff automatically. Cool, I'll add that to my bag of tricks. It's been about 2 years since the last time I built a Gentoo system, so a few things have changed. -- Collins Richey If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Subject: [gentoo-user-de] Xawtv/Scantv refuses cooperation
Hi, on my system Xawtv is installed with USE=zvbi, so that I have `scantv' enclosed. Anyway, it doesn't work: # scantv [...] vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] open /dev/vbi: Invalid argument # I wonder how this error message could arise because of the following: # dd if=/dev/vbi bs=8 count=1 | od -x 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 8 Bytes (8 B) copied, 0.099231 seconds, 0.1 kB/s 000 374d 1620 341e 544a 010 # I had a look at the source code but I found the open call parameters okay. Any clue what could be wrong there? Thanks in advance, Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Subject: [gentoo-user-de] Xawtv/Scantv refuses cooperation
On 7/31/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, on my system Xawtv is installed with USE=zvbi, so that I have `scantv' enclosed. Anyway, it doesn't work: # scantv [...] vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] open /dev/vbi: Invalid argument strace -e open scantv might give more info. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD
Hello, Since I've got to install a web server on an older machine (PIII) and this web pages suggest that 2006.1 will be released in August, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/ I thought I'd ask if anybody can point me to an early release or testing release of 2006.1 liveCD or just a guess as to a date. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
Hi everybody.I am new in Gentoo's world: I have just installed it.My trouble is in downloading packages went I emege it. I can ping distfiles.gentoo.org, but it doesn't download anything. Output is: ***Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org...1.0.0.0Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|1.0.0.0|:80... failed: Connection timed out.Retrying.***I can't neither download mirror list by using mirrorselect... :-( I am using a Linksys ADSL2MUE via PPPoA dsl connection. It NATs, and does not do DMZ or port forwarding. Anyway I can download stuff via http:// protocol by links2.Any hint?Cheers in advance. -- Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody. I am new in Gentoo's world: I have just installed it. Welcome My trouble is in downloading packages went I emege it. I can ping distfiles.gentoo.org, but it doesn't download anything. Output is: You should probably try setting a different mirror for GENTOO_MIRRORS in /etc/make.conf. You can see the current mirror list here: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
Thanks Richard! It works!I am in debt!2006/7/31, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You should probably try setting a different mirror for GENTOO_MIRRORSin /etc/make.conf.You can see the current mirror list here:http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml -Richard-- Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD
On 7/31/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Since I've got to install a web server on an older machine (PIII) and this web pages suggest that 2006.1 will be released in August, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/ I thought I'd ask if anybody can point me to an early release or testing release of 2006.1 liveCD or just a guess as to a date. Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the latest Gentoo anyway. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD
Daniel da Veiga wrote: Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the latest Gentoo anyway. I think the idea is to skip the five hour gcc/glibc update by starting from newer binaries in a hypothetical 2006.1 stage3. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] boot stalls at 'mounting local file systems'
any have a hint, my gentoo desktop box stalls booting at 'mounting local file systems' for a sudden. there's no system config files i alerted, nothing at all. from win i see all my ext3 partitions, all VFAT are there too. whatshoul i look for? martins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] neon: endless up-/down-grade
On Monday 31 July 2006 07:24, Richard Fish wrote: On 7/30/06, Andreas Schoelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good, ... but: I performed a revdep-rebuild in between which did the downgrade of neon to 0.24.7, but the remerge of rapidsvn failed then. Hmm, maybe try to emerge --unmerge rapidsvn and then re-merge it. Another alternative to the package.mask solution: accept the ~arch version of rapidsvn (0.9.3), which works with =neon-0.26. You can do this with (assuming you are on the x86 arch): echo ~dev-util/rapidsvn-0.9.3 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords I think that the fundamental problem is that the neon API changes between versions, so rapidsvn will only compile against one version of neon while gnome-vfs will only compile against a different version. I had this problem a few days ago and realised I don't use rapdisvn, as I prefer kdesvn, so I removed rapidsvn and the problem went away. This isn't much help though if you need rapidsvn :-( See: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139318 Steve -- Steve EvansE-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB:http://www.gorbag.com Registered Linux user #217906: http://counter.li.org Public Encryption Key: http://www.gorbag.com/public-key.html 2.6.17-gentoo-r4 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GNU/Linux 22:19:44 up 6 days, 10:58, 1 user, load average: 0.80, 0.74, 0.67 Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. -- Robert A. Heinlein pgpEqGIH5jqQ0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] boot stalls at 'mounting local file systems'
On 7/31/06, Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
any have a hint, my gentoo desktop box stalls booting at 'mounting local
file systems' for a sudden. there's no system config files i alerted,
If you are using ldap, it can cause long delays for things that occur
before networking is active when something tries to lookup a user from
the ldap server, but times out.
So far I've heard of this affecting bootmisc, udev, and now
localmount. There are some workarounds listed in this bug:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99564
Basically, downgrading the version of ldap or or changing the ldap
configuration seems to fix it for most people.
In your case, it is probably this part of localmount that is causing
the problem:
if [[ -n ${usbfs} ]] \
[[ -e /proc/bus/usb ! -e /proc/bus/usb/devices ]]
then
ebegin Mounting USB device filesystem (${usbfs})
usbgid=$(echo $(getent group usb) | awk -F: '{print $3}')
mount -t ${usbfs} usbfs /proc/bus/usb \
${usbgid:+-o devmode=0664,devgid=${usbgid}}
eend $? Failed to mount USB device filesystem
fi
This tries to do a lookup of the 'usb' group.
If it does indeed turn out to be an ldap issue, add a comment to the
linked bug or at least let me know and I'll do it.
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
The problem persists... Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files.It's strange: it download some packeges, but not some others. Some packages are available on some server and not in some others. Some packages are just not avaiable. Obviously wget doesn't work.Any extra hint?Marco2006/7/31, Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Richard! It works!I am in debt!2006/7/31, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You should probably try setting a different mirror for GENTOO_MIRRORSin /etc/make.conf.You can see the current mirror list here: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml -Richard-- Marco -- Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem persists... Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files. It's strange: it download some packeges, but not some others. Some packages are available on some server and not in some others. Some packages are just not avaiable. Can you give some examples? Maybe the packages that are not downloading have been obsoleted by newer versions, so only the newer versions are available on the mirror. You did run the emerge --sync step, right? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
2006/8/1, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem persists... Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files. It's strange: it download some packeges, but not some others. Some packages are available on some server and not in some others. Some packages are just not avaiable.Can you give some examples?Maybe the packages that are notdownloading have been obsoleted by newer versions, so only the newerversions are available on the mirror.You did run the emerge --sync step, right?-Richard--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listThat's what I thought.Ie.: ftp://mi.mirror.garr.it/pub/1/gentoo/distfiles/kbd-1.12.tar.gzI can download it from the laptop (firefox), but not with wget...***sickboy2 ~ # wget ftp://mi.mirror.garr.it/pub/1/gentoo/distfiles/kbd-1.12.tar.gz--00:53:30-- ftp://mi.mirror.garr.it/pub/1/gentoo/distfiles/kbd-1.12.tar.gz = `kbd-1.12.tar.gz'Resolving mi.mirror.garr.it... 1.0.0.0Connecting to mi.mirror.garr.it|1.0.0.0|:21... failed: Connection timed out.Retrying.***:-( -- Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
Resolving mi.mirror.garr.it... 1.0.0.0 mi.mirror.garr.it resolves to 193.206.139.34, maybe you have a DNS issue? Did you setup /etc/resolv.conf properly? Can you test ping mi.mirror.garr.it to make sure your machine can actually resolve it's IP properly? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files. It's strange: it download some packeges, but not some others. Can you give some examples? Maybe the packages that are not downloading have been obsoleted by newer versions, so only the newer versions are available on the mirror. You did run the emerge --sync step, right? That's what I thought. Ie.: ftp://mi.mirror.garr.it/pub/1/gentoo/distfiles/kbd-1.12.tar.gz I can download it from the laptop (firefox), but not with wget... *** sickboy2 ~ # wget ftp://mi.mirror.garr.it/pub/1/gentoo/distfiles/kbd-1.12.tar.gz--00:53:30-- ftp://mi.mirror.garr.it/pub/1/gentoo/distfiles/kbd-1.12.tar.gz = `kbd-1.12.tar.gz' Resolving mi.mirror.garr.it... 1.0.0.0 http://1.0.0.0 Connecting to mi.mirror.garr.it|1.0.0.0|:21... failed: Connection timed out. Retrying. *** If you can download files over http:// and ftp:// doesn't work this might be a firewall problem. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD
On 7/31/06, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the latest Gentoo anyway. I think the idea is to skip the five hour gcc/glibc update by starting from newer binaries in a hypothetical 2006.1 stage3. kashani Hi, I got stuck in that gcc upgrade problem this last week and unfortunately couldn't make the upgrade work. After gcc-3.4.6 was supposedly upgraded I started running into packages that didn't rebuild correctly even though I *thought* I had followed the gcc upgrade wiki faithfully. In the end I gave up and rubuilt the machine from scratch. Probably took me longer but now it's working well. So beyond 5 hours, it's the confidence starting out that when you get done it's going to be successful. This experience tested my faith a bit. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] harmful Reply-To Munging on Gentoo mailing lists
It has come to my attention that Reply-To Munging is not a good idea to have on mailing lists: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html . For example, in my gmail account I see something like this in the (prettified) header of each message from Gentoo's mailing lists: From: Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED]Mailed-By: gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org and when I click Reply (Reply to all option does not exist for Gentoo mailing lists) it automatically replies to the list rather than the author of the thread. Who is in charge of the mailing lists and would be the best person to suggest this to? Should I send this to a different gentoo-* list? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] harmful Reply-To Munging on Gentoo mailing lists
It has been discussed before and IMHO should not change. Please if you want to discuss go somewhere else like IRC. On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:10:48 -0400 Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov wrote: It has come to my attention that Reply-To Munging is not a good idea to have on mailing lists: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html . For example, in my gmail account I see something like this in the (prettified) header of each message from Gentoo's mailing lists: From: Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED]Mailed-By: gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org and when I click Reply (Reply to all option does not exist for Gentoo mailing lists) it automatically replies to the list rather than the author of the thread. Who is in charge of the mailing lists and would be the best person to suggest this to? Should I send this to a different gentoo-* list? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] harmful Reply-To Munging on Gentoo mailing lists
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 08:10:48PM -0400, Penguin Lover Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov squawked: Who is in charge of the mailing lists and would be the best person to suggest this to? Should I send this to a different gentoo-* list? Big discussion over this about 18 months ago. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/120320/focus=120320 The change was made as you suggested, without announcement. Some users noticed, some didn't. One person asked about the change. The whole thing eventually degenerated into a big hoopla and the change reverted. Personally I don't care either way. My preferred MUA (mutt) is smart enough and configurable enough to treat mailing lists properly. Best, W -- Q: Why is the CERN ion accelerator circular and not linear? A: It crosses international borders and Switzerland must remain neutral. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 5 days, 3:40 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] harmful Reply-To Munging on Gentoo mailing lists
On 7/31/06, Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has come to my attention that Reply-To Munging is not a good idea to have on mailing lists: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html . That is a matter of opinion. I find the Reply-To munging to be very helpful. Who is in charge of the mailing lists and would be the best person to suggest this to? Should I send this to a different gentoo-* list? http://bugs.gentoo.org, against infrastructure. But my guess is that it will likely be closed as WONTFIX, as this has come up before. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Resolving mi.mirror.garr.it... 1.0.0.0 Um, ok, somehow you resolved both mi.mirror.garr.it and distfiles.gentoo.org to 1.0.0.0. Even if that was a valid IP address, I would say your DNS server is lying to you. Try using a sane DNS server in /etc/resolve.conf. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] harmful Reply-To Munging on Gentoo mailing lists
Big discussion over this about 18 months ago. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/120320/focus=120320 Thanks a lot. I didn't find the search functions on the archives sites very helpful in finding an old thread about this. The change was made as you suggested, without announcement. Some users noticed, some didn't. One person asked about the change. The whole thing eventually degenerated into a big hoopla and the change reverted. Oh well ... lets not repeat that then! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff
there is something wrong with your name resolution: distfiles.gentoo.org does not have IP address 1.0.0.0 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:55:55 +0200 Marco Fabbri wrote: Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org...1.0.0.0 Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|1.0.0.0|:80... failed: Connection timed out. Retrying. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: 2006.1 liveCD
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the latest Gentoo anyway. I think the idea is to skip the five hour gcc/glibc update by starting from newer binaries in a hypothetical 2006.1 stage3. But you gotta wait months for new releases, while (like you said) it only take a few hours to update (if you WANNA update, because I still use gcc 3.4.6). And it can be done in the background, while you use the system anyway. I started my post with Since I've got to install a web server on an older machine (PIII) I managing 8 gentoo systems already. It's a new install. I can wait a few days to test out the new 2006.1 installation media methods.. Or maybe find the location of an x86 image in testing. My experiences with 2006.0 were less than spectacular, although things worked in the end, a lot of manual hacking was required to complete the installation process. I was just looking for a little 'insider info' not a thesis on Linux installations And YES installation media is very important for Gentoo, to attract new members to the Gentoo community and to simplify the life of those admins that are managing many systems and performing new installation. ymmv, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] harmful Reply-To Munging on Gentoo mailing lists
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 08:43:09PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: My preferred MUA (mutt) is smart enough and configurable enough to treat mailing lists properly. Here, here. -- Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. pgpa1ta5KFB8F.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2006.1 liveCD
On 7/31/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the latest Gentoo anyway. I think the idea is to skip the five hour gcc/glibc update by starting from newer binaries in a hypothetical 2006.1 stage3. But you gotta wait months for new releases, while (like you said) it only take a few hours to update (if you WANNA update, because I still use gcc 3.4.6). And it can be done in the background, while you use the system anyway. I must have hit the sweet spot. I installed (amd64) from the latest stage3 I could find a few weeks ago and never paid much attention to the gcc/glibc version. I'm on 3.4.6-r1, and I've never noticed any compile problems, but then I've not tried emerging empty world. My machine is too sodding fast to need that. -- Collins Richey If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Foomatic should be added to the Gentoo Printing doc
I followed this guide to set up printing: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml but it didn't start working until I emerged foomatic. The guide doesn't mention foomatic whatsoever. My printer is a Brother HL-2040 laser. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Foomatic should be added to the Gentoo Printing doc
Grant wrote: I followed this guide to set up printing: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml but it didn't start working until I emerged foomatic. The guide doesn't mention foomatic whatsoever. My printer is a Brother HL-2040 laser. Maybe file a bug against docs? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Foomatic should be added to the Gentoo Printing doc
Grant wrote: I followed this guide to set up printing: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml but it didn't start working until I emerged foomatic. The guide doesn't mention foomatic whatsoever. My printer is a Brother HL-2040 laser. The latest cups ebuild will force you to install some sort of drivers, defaulting to foomatic, on USE=ppds. Thanks, Donnie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
