[gentoo-user] Tomcat 5.5.26 issue

2008-03-03 Thread tecnic5
Hi everyone,

I'm having a strange issue with the latest stable version of Tomcat. I 
updated from 5.5.25-r1 to 5.5.26 and suddenly some files (XML files in 
this case) seemed unreachable for Tomcat. I run into this when I got 
several SAXParser errors, apparently because it couldn't create an 
InputStream for the file. When I switched back to 5.5.25-r1 the error 
stopped appearing.

Anyone else has experienced it?

Abraham Marín

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Jan Seeger
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NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly:
On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with 
 Por las nuevas políticas de calidad ISO 9001 que la empresa está 
 implementando, todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico deben ser 
 realizadas al correo electrónico [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Due to the new ISO9001 norm being implemented, all technical support requests
(relations?) should be taken to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Muchas gracias y disculpe las molestías.
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience
 Automáticamente este email será reenvio a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This email has automatically been resent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The person at the other email adress probably thinks he still gets the mails
normally, so he shouldn't do anything...

Regards,
Jan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Dale

Jan Seeger wrote:

NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly:
On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with
 Por las nuevas políticas de calidad ISO 9001 que la empresa está 
implementando, todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico deben 
ser realizadas al correo electrónico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Due to the new ISO9001 norm being implemented, all technical support 
requests

(relations?) should be taken to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Muchas gracias y disculpe las molestías.
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience
 Automáticamente este email será reenvio a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This email has automatically been resent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The person at the other email adress probably thinks he still gets the 
mails

normally, so he shouldn't do anything...

Regards,
Jan




Since you can read it, is there any way to stop the messages?  Over time 
this could become a problem.


Dale

:-)  :-)  :-) 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 3 March 2008, Jan Seeger wrote:

 NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly:
 On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with

  todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico 

 all technical support requests (relations?) 

all technical support-related issues 

Ok, not that it changes much... :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

2008-03-03 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
   Are you using kde-4.0.x or why do you have


 kde-3.5.7. Tried to update to kde-4.0.x near the end
  of January. This was after almost two years of not
  updating anything. This led to a emerge -uD world
  which took about a week over my string-and-can modem.
  Many, many failure to build errors kept me returning
  to the list for advice. See ,for instance, emerge -uD
  world: another obstacle in the archive. It was like
  crawling through the desert pursuing a mirage. I was
  unmerging here remerging there. Maybe that's when
  qca-2.0.0-r2 slipped into my system. I never
  completely understood why kde-4 couldn't be emerged. I
  ran update-eix and eix-sync. Even now when I do emerge
  -u kde it just points to 3.5.8.


   app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2
   unmasked? You can add =app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3
   ~whateverarchyouhave to
   /etc/portage.keyords and try again emerge -avuND
   world.


 Ok, that worked. Thanks.

So if you didn't manage to install kde-4.0.x, you should revert your
settings in /etc/portage/package.* and/or /etc/make.conf

For instance you should have app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2 in
/etc/portage/package.unmask which is not necessary if don't have
kde-4. And then you don't need app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 in
/etc/portage/package.keywords either.

I don't want to be offensive, but I strongly recommend you to do some
cleanup! I also recommend to learn how to use portage (man portage,
man ebuild, man emerge, and so on), how to manage
/etc/package/package.*, revdep-rebuild and what emerge --depclean is
doing! Learn how to handle blockers, to unmerge a specific version of
a package if it is slotted and not needed anymore, or you will get in
such troubles all the time!

I would also recommend everybody to use udept which in my opinion is
far superior to all other portage tools (depclean, eix-test-obsolete
equery, and so on), or replaces many of them by one single tool. I use
it for cleanup and other stuff, but it has some problems currently
with USE_DEFAULTS and SLOT_DEPENDENCIES so it does not work correctly
and its output has to be interpreted in the right way. There is also a
bug open where an updated ebuild exists which solves other problems
the current version has. I hope this problems go away and the
maintainer of udept finds the time to work on it again, it would be a
great loss if not!

Btw, it is no problem to install kde-4 in parallel to kde-3! It is
just a bit tricky and you should have some experience of how gentoo
works. I would also not unmask a kde version which is currently masked
and do a world update in parallel when i had not updated my system for
about two years. It is expected that many problems occur if doing so
because there are enough problems anyway after such a long time not
having done update world!

Portage wants to install kde-3.5.8 because it is now stable, thus
normal! Kde-3.5.7 is not in the tree anymore, as far as i know. I am
no kde user but i figured this all out by just reading this list and a
bit research!

Update-eix has in most cases nothing to do with upgrade problems. It
is just a database listing your portage-tree. The only problem when
not doing update-eix is that you may reason the wrong things because
the database is out of date and you rely on the output of eix which is
wrong!

Regards,

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
Just in case anyone else was thinking of doing so, I contacted the two
email addresses concerned off list and asked nicely for them to do
something :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

2008-03-03 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Daniel da Veiga wrote:
  
   Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
   forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
   happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
   would work).
  
   Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
   a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.
  
   Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
   the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
   damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
  

  There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how.
  If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way.  I read you can put Knoppix
  on a hard drive too.

  I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old
  rig.  I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it
  across the floor.  LOL

  I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy?  I think the floppy works.
  I'll check on that in a little bit.  May save me from dragging that
  thing in the house.


Well, thanks for the help guys.
When installing, I used the config from the LiveCD to build my own. It
seems that, somehow along the way (probably oldconfig?!) some serious
support was removed or marked as module. I mean the console support...
I'm pretty sure I didn't messed up with that part, and still, it
wasn't there. Well, 7 hours wasted on this, gosh...

Thanks again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [joke] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:07:55 +0930
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just in case anyone else was thinking of doing so, I contacted the two
 email addresses concerned off list and asked nicely for them to do
 something :)
 

Should they? Perhaps it's a part of the new ISO9001 norm being
implemented at their site?

...just kidding :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Set a property on a file and have it remove when the file is modified?

2008-03-03 Thread Erik

Daniel Iliev skrev:

Actually, if there are no other concerns, you'd have to keep only one
file for reference. Then you could compare the modification times of all
other files with this reference file.
  


Good idea! I implemented it and it reduced the number of cache 
files/directories in the tree from 633 to 26. The only drawback is that 
if the script is interrupted whilst checking a sequence of files with 
equal mtime, it will have to start over with that sequence the next time 
it is executed. (Files often get the same mtime if they are edited in an 
IDE and then all saved when executing the build command.) But reducing 
the number of cache files is worth that minor inconvenience.


In case anyone is curious, the script is here:
http://widelands.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/widelands/trunk/utils/spurious_source_code/detect
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Re: [gentoo-user] best circuit drawing software

2008-03-03 Thread Stroller


On 2 Mar 2008, at 21:20, maxim wexler wrote:


The best format for line drawings is a vector format
like svg.
With a vector format the image can be scaled to any
size and still
stay sharp.


Can it be viewed by someone who only has Explorer?


Depends on what software they have installed.

If you mean Internet Explorer then I have no idea whether it can be  
viewed in the browser itself, but the file can surely be downloaded.



Been working with xcircuit. It saves in PS but can be
made into a jpeg which looked just as sharp as the
original.


If you zoom into that jpeg fat enough you will see pixillation. I  
don't think this will be the case with the postscript file, which is  
indeed a vector (or vectorish?) format.


You're better off converting the PS file to PDF - PDF is fairly  
postscript-based, so this is an easy conversion, and PDF supports  
vector-based drawings (as well as bitmaps).


If you zoom in on a curve on the PDF using Acrobat (or whatever) you  
should find that you never see pixillation at all - this is the joy  
of vectors. Admittedly this is a fairly moot point with a small  
schematic, but I would imagine it would be considered far more  
elegant for much larger ones or (particularly) for PCB layouts.


Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Stroller


On 3 Mar 2008, at 09:57, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:


On Monday 3 March 2008, Jan Seeger wrote:


NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly:
On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with


todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico


all technical support requests (relations?)


all technical support-related issues

Ok, not that it changes much... :-)


N! It changes EVERYTHING!!

Issue is word to describe an individual periodical in a series of  
publications, and is a weasel-word when it's used as a synonym for  
problem.


Clearly if your computer isn't booting it's a PROBLEM, not merely an  
issue, so we can tell that the author of the email is engaged in  
the sort of environment where weasel-words are employed.


I have dealt with such technical support departments in the past - I  
knew of one at which the management insisted that staff were not  
allowed to describe a dead PC as a problem because that sounds too  
downbeat. Such scenarios were to be passed off to the customer as  
merely an issue (however seriously we're addressing your issue,  
sir), rather than the disaster it actually was.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 3 March 2008, Stroller wrote:
 On 3 Mar 2008, at 09:57, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
  On Monday 3 March 2008, Jan Seeger wrote:
  NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly:
  On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with
 
  todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico
 
  all technical support requests (relations?)
 
  all technical support-related issues
 
  Ok, not that it changes much... :-)

 N! It changes EVERYTHING!!

 Issue is word to describe an individual periodical in a series of
 publications, and is a weasel-word when it's used as a synonym for
 problem.

Ok. Literally, the word tema (pl. temas) would mean subject, theme, 
topic, matter. The degree of problematic-ness intended by whoever 
wrote temas can't of course be deduced, but only guessed.
In my interpretation, I took todos los temas relacionados con soporte 
técnico as meaning anything related to technical support, so issue 
seemed an acceptable translation (where issues include problems as 
well, of course). 
Also, I've seen many times if you have issues, call 123456-789. In my 
understanding, no doubt I'll call that technical support number if I 
have issues, faults or problems (however serious they may be).
But english is not my native language, so I could very well be mistaken 
in my understanding.

 Clearly if your computer isn't booting it's a PROBLEM, not merely an
 issue, so we can tell that the author of the email is engaged in
 the sort of environment where weasel-words are employed.

 I have dealt with such technical support departments in the past - I
 knew of one at which the management insisted that staff were not
 allowed to describe a dead PC as a problem because that sounds too
 downbeat. Such scenarios were to be passed off to the customer as
 merely an issue (however seriously we're addressing your issue,
 sir), rather than the disaster it actually was.

 /pet peeve

Agreed. I know that kind of environment.

So, are you saying that issue means nuisance or minor problem 
rather than real problem, and using the word to mean problem is 
incorrect? Or you just hate it when they say issue when they really 
should say disaster (in this case, I totally agree with you)?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Monday 03 March 2008, Stroller wrote:
 On 3 Mar 2008, at 09:57, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
  On Monday 3 March 2008, Jan Seeger wrote:
  NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly:
  On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with
 
  todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico
 
  all technical support requests (relations?)
 
  all technical support-related issues
 
  Ok, not that it changes much... :-)

 N! It changes EVERYTHING!!

 Issue is word to describe an individual periodical in a series of
 publications, and is a weasel-word when it's used as a synonym for
 problem.

You are argueing about the English translation of a Spanish word, done 
by someone that most probably isn't a certified translator. The word 
at issue (please excuse the pun) isn't issues but the Spanish 
word temas - and I doubt it can be described as a weasel-word in 
this context.

Uwe

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[gentoo-user] using torrent

2008-03-03 Thread Gavin Seddon

Hi,
I have a couple of dvd's as torrent files.Will someone explain how to 
create the dvd's since I have found noclear help on the www.  I inst. 
ktorrent but it hs no help.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] using torrent

2008-03-03 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman

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A torrent file is related to peer-to-peer networks. Is not what you want, BUT 
is the means to obtain it.

emerge ctorrent.

Then, ctorrent yourfile.torrent

And wait. You will obtain the .iso files.

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[gentoo-user] How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing.  I found
a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do:

http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html

However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated,
but there are iptables versions as recent at three months ago,
so it still seems to be maintained. The above page has
references to the Linux Advanced Routing  Traffic Control
site at www.lartc.org, but that site appears to be long-gone.

What's the recommended interface for doing advanced routing
stuff?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Monday 03 March 2008, Grant Edwards wrote:
 I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing.  I found
 a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do:

 http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html

 However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated,

Not to my knowledge.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Jason Carson
 I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing.  I found
 a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do:

 http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html

 However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated,
 but there are iptables versions as recent at three months ago,
 so it still seems to be maintained. The above page has
 references to the Linux Advanced Routing  Traffic Control
 site at www.lartc.org, but that site appears to be long-gone.

 What's the recommended interface for doing advanced routing
 stuff?

There are many interfaces but they are all frontends to iptables.
Personally I just did a lot of reading and built my firewall from scratch.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-03, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 03 March 2008, Grant Edwards wrote:
 I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing.  I found
 a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do:

 http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html

 However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated,

 Not to my knowledge.

I would have sworn that one source I found said that ipchains
and iptables were both deprecated in favor of netfilter, but
AFAICT, iptables is the user-space portion of netfilter.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Jason Carson
 On 2008-03-03, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 03 March 2008, Grant Edwards wrote:
 I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing.  I found
 a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do:

 http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html

 However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated,

 Not to my knowledge.

 I would have sworn that one source I found said that ipchains
 and iptables were both deprecated in favor of netfilter, but
 AFAICT, iptables is the user-space portion of netfilter.

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ipchains is used in the 2.2 kernel. iptables is for the 2.4 and 2.6
kernels. From the netfilter website Software commonly associated with
netfilter.org is iptables.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman

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| AFAICT, iptables is the user-space portion of netfilter.

That's correct, yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

2008-03-03 Thread Dale

Daniel da Veiga wrote:

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Daniel da Veiga wrote:
 
  Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
  forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
  happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
  would work).
 
  Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
  a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.
 
  Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
  the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
  damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
 

 There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how.
 If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way.  I read you can put Knoppix
 on a hard drive too.

 I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old
 rig.  I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it
 across the floor.  LOL

 I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy?  I think the floppy works.
 I'll check on that in a little bit.  May save me from dragging that
 thing in the house.




Well, thanks for the help guys.
When installing, I used the config from the LiveCD to build my own. It
seems that, somehow along the way (probably oldconfig?!) some serious
support was removed or marked as module. I mean the console support...
I'm pretty sure I didn't messed up with that part, and still, it
wasn't there. Well, 7 hours wasted on this, gosh...

Thanks again.

  


Just to clarify, you can boot from the hard drive and it is working now?

Dale

:-)  :-)
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[gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-03, Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing.  I found
 a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do:

 http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html

 However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated,
 but there are iptables versions as recent at three months ago,
 so it still seems to be maintained. The above page has
 references to the Linux Advanced Routing  Traffic Control
 site at www.lartc.org, but that site appears to be long-gone.

 What's the recommended interface for doing advanced routing
 stuff?

 There are many interfaces but they are all frontends to
 iptables. Personally I just did a lot of reading and built my
 firewall from scratch.

I found shorewall and firestarter, but neither looked very
useful to me:

 1) They're both designed for configuring firewalls, and I'm
not building a firewall machine.

 2) Neither seemed to have any way to specify port-based routing.

So it looks like plain iptables is the way to go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] using torrent

2008-03-03 Thread b.n.
Gavin Seddon ha scritto:
 Hi,
 I have a couple of dvd's as torrent files.Will someone explain how to
 create the dvd's since I have found noclear help on the www.  I inst.
 ktorrent but it hs no help.

Just open the torrent files with ktorrent (File - Open) and let the
program download the torrents.

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Re: [gentoo-user] using torrent

2008-03-03 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:00 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gavin Seddon ha scritto:

  Hi,
   I have a couple of dvd's as torrent files.Will someone explain how to
   create the dvd's since I have found noclear help on the www.  I inst.
   ktorrent but it hs no help.

  Just open the torrent files with ktorrent (File - Open) and let the
  program download the torrents.

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After downloading your dvds with your bittorrent client of choice (I
prefer Azureus, memory hog that it is), you will usually have to
extract them.  Typically, dvd images (isos) are compressed for better
data integrity into between 40 and 70 rar files.  You'd need the unrar
utility (emerge unrar) to extract them.  At that point, iirc, you
should be able to run unrar -x first archive file and you'll get
your iso.

Now load it up into k3b or your burning program of choice and burn!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2008-03-03, Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing.  I found
   a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do:
  
   http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html
  
   However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated,
   but there are iptables versions as recent at three months ago,
   so it still seems to be maintained. The above page has
   references to the Linux Advanced Routing  Traffic Control
   site at www.lartc.org, but that site appears to be long-gone.
  
   What's the recommended interface for doing advanced routing
   stuff?
  
   There are many interfaces but they are all frontends to
   iptables. Personally I just did a lot of reading and built my
   firewall from scratch.

  I found shorewall and firestarter, but neither looked very
  useful to me:

   1) They're both designed for configuring firewalls, and I'm
 not building a firewall machine.

   2) Neither seemed to have any way to specify port-based routing.

  So it looks like plain iptables is the way to go.

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I hate to plug a non-gentoo distro, but if you're building yourself a
linux firewall and you want to do so without rtfm'ing, smoothwall is
the way to go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ghosting a Ext3 partition

2008-03-03 Thread Jonathan Haws
On Sunday March 2 2008 16:43, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
 Right - what you intend the backup to protect against drives all this
 sort of stuff.

The thing that is driving my backups is a hard disk failure.  Hence I was 
using Ghost instead of something else so I can backup the entire drive and 
not just a single partition.  That enables the quickest recovery of the 
entire system in the event of a failure.

I have looked everywhere I can think of to find a tool that is similar to 
Ghost that will backup the entire hard drive to an image that I can put to 
DVD, without including free blocks on the disk (I don't want an 80GB image of 
an 80GB drive when only 5GB are in use at the time).  Does anyone know of a 
tool capable of this that runs on Linux and has FULL Linux fs support?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread kashani

Grant Edwards wrote:

I found shorewall and firestarter, but neither looked very
useful to me:

 1) They're both designed for configuring firewalls, and I'm
not building a firewall machine.

 2) Neither seemed to have any way to specify port-based routing.

So it looks like plain iptables is the way to go.



	I'm not aware of any iptables front end that will also manager policy 
based routing which is Cisco-ese and maybe general Network-ese for what 
you're trying to do. However I would use shorewall (or whatever you 
prefer) to do most of the work and then insert your custom rules where 
they need to go.
	All policy routing regardless of actual implementation has you build an 
ACL of traffic you'd like messed with. Then you need to specify what 
happens to traffic that matches the ACL. However one thing the original 
how-to you linked left didn't completely spell out is NAT. You MUST NAT 
on each interface or you'll have all sorts of routing fun that does not 
work.


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[gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-03, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I found shorewall and firestarter, but neither looked very
  useful to me:

   1) [...] I'm not building a firewall machine.

 I hate to plug a non-gentoo distro, but if you're building
 yourself a linux firewall and you want to do so without
 rtfm'ing, smoothwall is the way to go.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-03, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not aware of any iptables front end that will also manager
 policy based routing which is Cisco-ese and maybe general
 Network-ese for what you're trying to do. However I would use
 shorewall (or whatever you prefer) to do most of the work and
 then insert your custom rules where they need to go.

AFAICT, I only need to add 1 iptable rule to mark outbound
frames destined to particular ports.

 All policy routing regardless of actual implementation has you
 build an ACL of traffic you'd like messed with. Then you need
 to specify what happens to traffic that matches the ACL.
 However one thing the original how-to you linked left didn't
 completely spell out is NAT. You MUST NAT on each interface or
 you'll have all sorts of routing fun that does not work.

I don't understand why I have to do NAT.  Can you explain why?
(Or point me to docs that explain why?)

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-03, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2008-03-03, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not aware of any iptables front end that will also manager
 policy based routing which is Cisco-ese and maybe general
 Network-ese for what you're trying to do. However I would use
 shorewall (or whatever you prefer) to do most of the work and
 then insert your custom rules where they need to go.

 AFAICT, I only need to add 1 iptable rule to mark outbound
 frames destined to particular ports.

 All policy routing regardless of actual implementation has you
 build an ACL of traffic you'd like messed with. Then you need
 to specify what happens to traffic that matches the ACL.
 However one thing the original how-to you linked left didn't
 completely spell out is NAT. You MUST NAT on each interface or
 you'll have all sorts of routing fun that does not work.

 I don't understand why I have to do NAT.  Can you explain why?
 (Or point me to docs that explain why?)

OK, I think I see what you mean.  The in the HOWTO to which I
linked, the box in question is apparently routing between an
internal network on eth0 and two external gateways on eth1 and
eth2.  It is choosing the external gateway based on the
destination port of the outbound packet.  That's obviously only
make sense if it's also doing NAT.

My application is not routing for any other machines/networks.
It's just a desktop machine belonging to an end-user.  It has
two gateways to the Internet (each of those gateways is doing
NAT).  All I want to do is select a gateway based on the
destination port of outbound packets.

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[gentoo-user] No fish!

2008-03-03 Thread Mick
I am not sure when this started, but trying to connect to ssh servers using 
fish with Konqueror fails with this message:

The process for the fish://ftp.mywebsite.com protocol died unexpectedly.

Nothing appears in the logs.  The same error happens with different servers.  
What might it be?

PS. I've tried revdep-rebuild and nothing seems to want to be rebuilt.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread kashani

Grant Edwards wrote:


I don't understand why I have to do NAT.  Can you explain why?
(Or point me to docs that explain why?)



router01.your.network.com
eth0 - 10.11.12.1
eth1 - 24.1.2.231 - Comcast
eth2 - 64.1.2.132 - Speakeasy

Naturally RFC 1918 space is useless outside your network so you have to 
NAT. However you need to make sure that you are making your policy 
routing decisions at eth0. You don't want traffic marked as originating 
from 24.1.2.231 going out eth2 since Speakeasy could (and should) drop 
traffic that is not origination from its IP space. Additionally traffic 
will be routing back to your via Comcast connection resulting in 
asymmetric routing which can increase the chances of packets arriving 
out of order.


router01.your.network.com
eth0 - 24.2.3.1/29
eth0 - 64.2.3.1/29
eth1 - 24.1.2.231 - Comcast
eth2 - 64.1.2.132 - Speakeasy

Same case with this setup even with real IPs. The chances of convincing 
any ISP to accept routes smaller than /24 from you are tiny. And finding 
anyone who knows what you even want to do even when you have the IP 
space is pretty much non-existent. I know, I've tried. Same thing in 
this case, you'll NAT at eth1 and eth2 and policy router at eth0.


If you are doing this from a single machine with two IP's and no other 
networks or interfaces, it should just work. Linux should use the IP of 
interface the packet leaves from, but I'd use tcpdump to make sure.


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[gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?

2008-03-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-03-03, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Grant Edwards wrote:

 I don't understand why I have to do NAT.  Can you explain why?
 (Or point me to docs that explain why?)

 router01.your.network.com
   eth0 - 10.11.12.1
   eth1 - 24.1.2.231 - Comcast
   eth2 - 64.1.2.132 - Speakeasy

 Naturally RFC 1918 space is useless outside your network so
 you have to NAT.

Both of my gateways are on local networks and are doing NAT.

 However you need to make sure that you are making your policy 
 routing decisions at eth0. You don't want traffic marked as
 originating from 24.1.2.231 going out eth2

I don't have IP forwarding enabled, so that shouldn't happen.

 since Speakeasy could (and should) drop traffic that is not
 origination from its IP space. Additionally traffic will be
 routing back to your via Comcast connection resulting in 
 asymmetric routing which can increase the chances of packets
 arriving out of order.

 router01.your.network.com
   eth0 - 24.2.3.1/29
   eth0 - 64.2.3.1/29
   eth1 - 24.1.2.231 - Comcast
   eth2 - 64.1.2.132 - Speakeasy

 Same case with this setup even with real IPs. The chances of convincing 
 any ISP to accept routes smaller than /24 from you are tiny. And finding 
 anyone who knows what you even want to do even when you have the IP 
 space is pretty much non-existent. I know, I've tried. Same thing in 
 this case, you'll NAT at eth1 and eth2 and policy router at eth0.

 If you are doing this from a single machine with two IP's and no other 
 networks or interfaces, it should just work.

The machine will have different non-routing IPs on the two
interfaces where the two NAT/firewall/gateways are.  The
machine does have interfaces/networks, but since I'm not
forwarding packets, they should be irrelevant.

 Linux should use the IP of interface the packet leaves from,
 but I'd use tcpdump to make sure.

Good idea.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Stroller


On 3 Mar 2008, at 15:17, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:


On Monday 3 March 2008, Stroller wrote:

On 3 Mar 2008, at 09:57, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

On Monday 3 March 2008, Jan Seeger wrote:

NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly:
On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with


todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico


all technical support requests (relations?)


all technical support-related issues

Ok, not that it changes much... :-)


N! It changes EVERYTHING!!

Issue is word to describe an individual periodical in a series of
publications, and is a weasel-word when it's used as a synonym for
problem.


Ok. Literally, the word tema (pl. temas) would mean subject, theme,
topic, matter. The degree of problematic-ness intended by whoever
wrote temas can't of course be deduced, but only guessed.
In my interpretation, I took todos los temas relacionados con soporte
técnico as meaning anything related to technical support, so issue
seemed an acceptable translation (where issues include problems as
well, of course).


Hi Etaoin,

I didn't mean to be picky about your translation, so my apologies for  
that. And thank you to Uwe for pointing that out - I didn't intend to  
be taken that way, I just wanted to have a little rant about one of  
my (least) favourite words.


However you can also say in English all matters relating to  
technical support.




Clearly if your computer isn't booting it's a PROBLEM, not merely an
issue, so we can tell that the author of the email is engaged in
the sort of environment where weasel-words are employed.

I have dealt with such technical support departments in the past - I
knew of one at which the management insisted that staff were not
allowed to describe a dead PC as a problem because that sounds too
downbeat. Such scenarios were to be passed off to the customer as
merely an issue (however seriously we're addressing your issue,
sir), rather than the disaster it actually was.

/pet peeve


Agreed. I know that kind of environment.

So, are you saying that issue means nuisance or minor problem
rather than real problem, and using the word to mean problem is
incorrect? Or you just hate it when they say issue when they really
should say disaster (in this case, I totally agree with you)?


Issue kinda doesn't mean any of these things - neither nuisance nor  
minor problem nor real problem. It's a way of _avoiding_ saying  
any of these things at all.


The dictionary I have on this computer is the New Oxford American  
one, and it basically says:


  issue, noun
  1 an important topic for debate or discussion : the issue of  
global warming | money is not an issue


This dictionary goes on to observe the he has issues usage, but  
really this is just the same (fairly recent) euphemism.


The best way (IMO) to perceive the word issue is the global warming  
one or the couple who are going to marriage counselling because they  
have issues (to talk about). In the former case it's a matter of  
public debate, in which everyone has a view and in which people are  
entitled to opposite views; in the latter case there are likewise two  
ways to see the situation and the solution will be found through  
discussion and compromise. An issue is a two-way street, in which  
opinions go both ways.


The use of the word issue within technical support is wide, and so  
you'd never lose marks for using it in a translation as you have; I  
suppose I must admit that - with the evolution of language - the word  
has perhaps become a synonym for problem. But this usage is a bit  
of co-optation - one doesn't like to admit one's software has  
problems, so one uses the word issue instead. Problem sounds so  
negative, an issue is just something to be worked through.


As I say, my objection to this usage stems from one company whose  
staff were prohibited from the use of the word problem. But  
technical support problems are frequently NOT a two-way street, and  
they're not something for discussion  compromise the way your  
spouse's habits might be. If I've bought software from you and it  
crashes every time I press print it truly IS a problem, and use of  
the word issue to describe this is, IMO, weasly.


I hope this helps to explain this fairly obscure entomology. I don't  
pretend to be a definitive source (I'm not a dictionary), and mine is  
perhaps a bit of a minority opinion. But as a non-native speaker I  
guess you may be interested in why I said what I did, so hopefully  
this clarifies.


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Re: [gentoo-user] No fish!

2008-03-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:14:25 +, Mick wrote:

 I am not sure when this started, but trying to connect to ssh servers
 using fish with Konqueror fails with this message:
 
 The process for the fish://ftp.mywebsite.com protocol died unexpectedly.

Aargh! It is broken here too, using KDE 3.5.9 but with 4.0.1 also
installed. Which version(s) do you have?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)

2008-03-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 3 March 2008, Stroller wrote:

 I didn't mean to be picky about your translation, so my apologies for
 that. And thank you to Uwe for pointing that out - I didn't intend to
 be taken that way, I just wanted to have a little rant about one of
 my (least) favourite words.

No offense at all. Instead, I was genuinely interested in finding out 
whether I was missing something.  

 Issue kinda doesn't mean any of these things - neither nuisance nor
 minor problem nor real problem. It's a way of _avoiding_ saying
 any of these things at all.

 The dictionary I have on this computer is the New Oxford American
 one, and it basically says:

issue, noun
1 an important topic for debate or discussion : the issue of
 global warming | money is not an issue

 This dictionary goes on to observe the he has issues usage, but
 really this is just the same (fairly recent) euphemism.

 The best way (IMO) to perceive the word issue is the global warming
 one or the couple who are going to marriage counselling because they
 have issues (to talk about). In the former case it's a matter of
 public debate, in which everyone has a view and in which people are
 entitled to opposite views; in the latter case there are likewise two
 ways to see the situation and the solution will be found through
 discussion and compromise. An issue is a two-way street, in which
 opinions go both ways.

Thanks. This covers and goes well beyond the simple meaning of matter, 
subject that I was assigning to the word.

 The use of the word issue within technical support is wide, and so
 you'd never lose marks for using it in a translation as you have; I
 suppose I must admit that - with the evolution of language - the word
 has perhaps become a synonym for problem. But this usage is a bit
 of co-optation - one doesn't like to admit one's software has
 problems, so one uses the word issue instead. Problem sounds so
 negative, an issue is just something to be worked through.

I usually like to call a spade a spade (I think this is the english idiom 
for the concept), so problem is perfectly fine for me in these cases. 
Moreover, I'm the first to admit my faults, so if something I did or 
wrote does not work, I have no problem (pardon the pun) in saying that 
it has a problem unlike, as you point out, some companies or technical 
support departments (but it seems to me that the same holds for many 
politicians, managers, etc.).

 As I say, my objection to this usage stems from one company whose
 staff were prohibited from the use of the word problem. But
 technical support problems are frequently NOT a two-way street, and
 they're not something for discussion  compromise the way your
 spouse's habits might be. If I've bought software from you and it
 crashes every time I press print it truly IS a problem, and use of
 the word issue to describe this is, IMO, weasly.

Yes, I guess it may be called an euphemism (usually coupled with some 
amount of hypocrisy, in my modest experience).

 I hope this helps to explain this fairly obscure entomology. I don't
 pretend to be a definitive source (I'm not a dictionary), and mine is
 perhaps a bit of a minority opinion. But as a non-native speaker I
 guess you may be interested in why I said what I did, so hopefully
 this clarifies.

Surely I was interested, and I thank you for your detailed explanation.
You cleared all my issues! :-)
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[gentoo-user] xorg-server problem loading mouse driver

2008-03-03 Thread Robert Stockdale IV
Im currently running Gentoo on an Athlon 4600+ dual core with 4Gig
 ram, nVidia 7600GS video card and USB keyboard and Trackman Wheel
 trackball. I just emerged xorg-server 1.4.0.90-r3 and when I try to
 startx I get an initialization screen with a pointer that fails to
 move. Afterwards I crtl-alt-backspace it shows an error message as
 follows:
 X.Org X Server 1.4.0.90
 Release Date: 5 September 2007
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.22-sabayon x86_64
 Current Operating System: Linux java 2.6.24.2 #8 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 2
 10:23:57 EST 2008 x86_64
 Build Date: 26 February 2008 09:20:21AM
 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
 to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Module Loader present
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Mar 2 10:29:01 2008
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so: undefined symbol:
 miPointerGetMotionEvents
 (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
 (EE) Failed to load module mouse (loader failed, 7)
 (II) Module ramdac already built-in
 FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.24.2/video/nvidia.ko):
 Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
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[gentoo-user] Make krusader default file manager

2008-03-03 Thread Danis Petkakis
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hello there i'm trying to make krusader my default file manager...so when
i'm double-clicking on a directory it should be opened by Krusader...i try
to set it up correctly in kcontrol-kde components-file
associations-inode-directory and choose Krusader in the application
preference box but when i double-click on a folder it pops up an error
message saying kdeinit could not launch '/usr/bin/krusader'...could someone
tell me how to make krusader the default file manager?? thanks...


[gentoo-user] My recent problems have been strange...

2008-03-03 Thread Chris Walters

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My recent problems upgrading packages to the testing versions have been more
than a little odd.  It would always end the same way - there would be files
missing that had been there before I merged a package, and the loss of these
files would prevent the caching of service dependencies.  Thus, I could not use
emerge and several other tools.

The strange part is that it happened four different times with four different
packages.  Three examples are texinfo, gawk and coreutils.  What makes this
problem more odd is that I could install those those packages, without trouble,
later - with no changes on my part.  I did not sync, as I was already up to
date, and I did not change any options.  Each time I was able to merge a
package that has caused me trouble, another package, would cause the same 
problem.

Oh, and by the way, yes I do keep an up to date backup of my entire system, and
will restore it, if necessary.  This is especially true when re-installing
Gentoo, as I have found that, often the order of emerging things can make or
break a system (I would call a system broken when you can't run emerge, many
key files are missing, and the environment variables are such that you can't
run anything, and when rebooting does not work, causing you to have to turn off
the computer which corrupts the file system).

Regards,
Chris

PS:  I finally got everything in order, and it is working fine.
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server problem loading mouse driver

2008-03-03 Thread Dale

Robert Stockdale IV wrote:

Im currently running Gentoo on an Athlon 4600+ dual core with 4Gig
 ram, nVidia 7600GS video card and USB keyboard and Trackman Wheel
 trackball. I just emerged xorg-server 1.4.0.90-r3 and when I try to
 startx I get an initialization screen with a pointer that fails to
 move. Afterwards I crtl-alt-backspace it shows an error message as
 follows:
  SNIP 
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 Bob
  


You should have a line that looks something like this in your 
/etc/make.conf file:


INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse

Since you use a trackball it may not be mouse but something else.  
That's something to check at least.  You may want to post the output of 
emerge --info too, just in case.


Dale

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[gentoo-user] Is there really no way to search http://packages.gentoo.org ?!

2008-03-03 Thread Daevid Vincent
Am I completely retarded or is this broken?

http://packages.gentoo.org/

There USED to be a way to search packages. I don't see such a feature
anymore? I tried it in both IE6 and FF2 just in case.


:(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there really no way to search http://packages.gentoo.org ?!

2008-03-03 Thread Ophidian

Daevid Vincent wrote:

Am I completely retarded or is this broken?

http://packages.gentoo.org/

There USED to be a way to search packages. I don't see such a feature
anymore? I tried it in both IE6 and FF2 just in case.


:(



I switched to hitting up www.gentoo-portage.com instead because of this 
lack of feature.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there really no way to search http://packages.gentoo.org ?!

2008-03-03 Thread Dale

Ophidian wrote:

Daevid Vincent wrote:

Am I completely retarded or is this broken?

http://packages.gentoo.org/

There USED to be a way to search packages. I don't see such a feature
anymore? I tried it in both IE6 and FF2 just in case.


:(



I switched to hitting up www.gentoo-portage.com instead because of 
this lack of feature.


Aaron


And I get this when I go there:

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ERROR
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Got a error in both Seamonkey and Konqueror.  Ideas?

Dale

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[gentoo-user] Upgraded kernel from .17 to .23 and all sorts of broken things... (nvidia, splash, iptables)

2008-03-03 Thread Daevid Vincent
I had to upgrade my kernel from linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8 to
linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r9

Now all sorts of things are broken.

First and foremost, I used to use:

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1

But I can't re-emerge that now -- it's gone!? WTF!?

[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
 Available versions:  71.86.01 (~)71.86.04 96.43.01 (~)96.43.05
[m]100.14.09 [m](~)100.14.11 [m]100.14.19 [M](~)100.14.23 [m](~)169.07
[m](~)169.09 [m](~)169.09-r1 [m](~)169.12 {acpi custom-cflags gtk
kernel_linux multilib}
 Installed versions:  96.43.05(18:44:21 03/03/08)(acpi gtk kernel_linux
-multilib)
 Homepage:http://www.nvidia.com/
 Description: NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries

So, I tried to emerge whatever the latest stable one was and it told me that
I was fsck'd and to mask out =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-97.0.0.

Re-emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.

Now when I start X, I have a @#(*[EMAIL PROTECTED] blank/black screen! UGH! 

What now? How do I get back the only working driver for this piece of crap
GeForce 440 Go card that is apparently unsupported now in newer drivers.
(It's in a Dell i8200 notebook -- I CAN'T replace the card BTW)

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Next thing that's broken is my framebuffer console. I'm stuck back at some
God-awful 80x25 display. And the lovely
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash doesn't load anymore.
http://fbsplash.berlios.de/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:distros:gentoo would
indicate that nothing has really changed that I can see. The install
mentions this fbcondecor thing, but says it's optional.

This is in my grub.conf file (sans the line breaks for readability):

kernel=(hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda3 
video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
splash=silent,theme:livecd-2006.1 quiet 
CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 
fbcon=scrollback:128K hdb=ide-scsi 
resume=/dev/hda6 pmdisk=/dev/hda6 
netdev=5,0xec80,eth0
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/fbsplash-livecd-2006.1-1600x1200

When I boot it complains about not being able to open /dev/fb0 or /dev/fb/0
Failing to configure resolution and icon positioning

The .log file from the install says this:

 * Please note that the 'fbsplash' kernel patch has now been renamed to
 * 'fbcondecor'.  Accordingly, the old 'splash' initscript is now called
 * 'fbcondecor'.  Make sure you update your system.  See:
 * http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/fbcondecor/#history
 * for further info about the name changes.
 *
 * Also note that splash_util has now been split into splash_util, fbsplashd
 * and fbcondecor_ctl.

locutus portage # rc-update del splash default
 * 'splash' removed from the following runlevels: default
locutus portage # rc-update del splash boot
 * 'splash' removed from the following runlevels: boot
locutus portage # rc-update add fbcondecor boot
 * rc-update: '/etc/init.d/fbcondecor' not found; aborting
locutus portage # ls /etc/init.d/fbc*
ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/fbc*: No such file or directory
locutus portage # ls /etc/init.d/spl*
ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/spl*: No such file or directory

UGH!

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And lastly, I get this BS when I try to start shorewall, which then causes
it to STB and therefore I'm completely locked off from the network. I can
'shorewall clear' which allows me net access, but then I'm completely
exposed! UGH.

And of course http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_Howto_setup_shorewall isn't
loading.

locutus grub # /etc/init.d/shorewall start
 * Starting firewall ...
iptables: Invalid argument
   ERROR: Command /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state
ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Failed
iptables: Invalid argument
iptables: Invalid argument
/sbin/shorewall: line 375: 13010 Terminated  ${VARDIR}/.start
$debugging start

I googled and tried some of the kernel options I saw mentioned, but that
doesn't seem to be helping.

[I] net-firewall/shorewall
 Available versions:  3.0.8 3.2.9 3.4.6 3.4.7 ~4.0 ~4.0-r1 {doc}
 Installed versions:  3.4.7(16:10:17 03/03/08)(-doc)
 Homepage:http://www.shorewall.net/
 Description: Shoreline Firewall is an iptables-based firewall
for Linux.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion--FIXED

2008-03-03 Thread maxim wexler
 Now do 
 emerge -avuND world 
 to make sure everything is up to date followed by
 emerge -av --depclean
 and
 revdep-rebuild

...
Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All
done.

Amen.


  

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Re: [gentoo-user] best circuit drawing software

2008-03-03 Thread maxim wexler
  Been working with xcircuit. It saves in PS but can
 be
  made into a jpeg which looked just as sharp as the
  original.
 
 If you zoom into that jpeg fat enough you will see
 pixillation. I  
 don't think this will be the case with the
 postscript file, which is  
 indeed a vector (or vectorish?) format.
 
 You're better off converting the PS file to PDF -
 PDF is fairly  
 postscript-based, so this is an easy conversion, and
 PDF supports  
 vector-based drawings (as well as bitmaps).
 
 If you zoom in on a curve on the PDF using Acrobat
 (or whatever) you  
 should find that you never see pixillation at all -
 this is the joy  
 of vectors. Admittedly this is a fairly moot point
 with a small  
 schematic, but I would imagine it would be
 considered far more  
 elegant for much larger ones or (particularly) for
 PCB layouts.

xcircuit should suffice for my needs. You can right
click the files in konqueror and save them to jpegs,
pngs etc. No one's going to bother zooming in on any
of them.

mw


  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ghosting a Ext3 partition

2008-03-03 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Jonathan Haws wrote:

On Sunday March 2 2008 16:43, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
  

Right - what you intend the backup to protect against drives all this
sort of stuff.



The thing that is driving my backups is a hard disk failure.  Hence I was 
using Ghost instead of something else so I can backup the entire drive and 
not just a single partition.  That enables the quickest recovery of the 
entire system in the event of a failure.


I have looked everywhere I can think of to find a tool that is similar to 
Ghost that will backup the entire hard drive to an image that I can put to 
DVD, without including free blocks on the disk (I don't want an 80GB image of 
an 80GB drive when only 5GB are in use at the time).  Does anyone know of a 
tool capable of this that runs on Linux and has FULL Linux fs support?


  
I actually think that 'dump' will do what you want... provided you can 
choose a time when the machine is not busy (should be easy if it's your 
desktop!). You have to do 1 dump per filesystem, but many desktop 
installations only consist of / (+ maybe /boot) anyway. Also dump of a 
80Gb system that only uses 5Gb will produce a 5Gb image Also it can 
do incremental an cumulative backups.


Some friends of mine use Amanda to backup their (Redhat/Centos) servers, 
that may worth looking at too.


Cheers

Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there really no way to search http://packages.gentoo.org ?!

2008-03-03 Thread Mike Mazur
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And I get this when I go there:

Looks like they might be experiencing some downtime at the moment. Try
again later.

I can't even remember how long I've been using gentoo-portage.com now...

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there really no way to search http://packages.gentoo.org ?!

2008-03-03 Thread Dale

Mike Mazur wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

 And I get this when I go there:



Looks like they might be experiencing some downtime at the moment. Try
again later.

I can't even remember how long I've been using gentoo-portage.com now...

Mike
  


Murphy's law, if you want a site to go down, give me the link.  :/ 


LOL

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