Re: [gentoo-user] DRI doesn't work with xorg 7.4 and an intel chipset Q35 board

2009-03-30 Thread Wolfgang Liebich
Hi,

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:51:02PM +, Momesso Andrea wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 02:05:14PM +0500, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
  On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:17:49 +0100
  wolfgang.lieb...@siemens.com wrote:
  
   I've upgraded to 2.6.27-gentoo-r10 - no change.
  
  Prehaps it'll help to upgrade to the latest developers-stable kernel
  (2.6.29), since there are quite a few changes, affecting intel video,
  most notable of which, of course, is GEM, which still (afaik) works
  only with intel.
  
  http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_28#head-b957b19f6139b6bbbfabaf790bf643b1746985d6
  http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_29#head-e1bab8dc862e3b477cc38d87e8ddc779a66509d1
  
 If you upgrade to 2.6.29 DO NOT enable modesetting by default... As the
 help says (and also my first hand experience) it will break things such
 as the intelfb.

Thanks for the tip. I do not use framebuffers at all, though.

 
 And, by the way, there are not yet drivers supporting it.

So it's somewhat useless - I see :-/

Some further experiences with other kernels:
- I've upgraded to the latest  greatest xorg-x11; this move DID solve
the instant crash on openGL usage bug, BUT it introduced some new
problems:
-- some calls to mplayer also instantly crash the X server. I did not
yet get around to pinning this problem down exactly.

-- Tests with glxgears show that as soon as I enable DRI, the
framerate DROPS from about 500 to 50. HUH???
-- Sometimes when shutting down, the shutdown of the X server does not
correctly reset the console - as soon as X-Server dies, some strange
color pattens are all that remain visible. As long as the shutdown
works, this is more of an annoyance than a problem, but if I want to
drop to console mode, this WOULD be a problem.


- Using kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.29-gentoo I get a problem during
shutdown: The shutdown of ALSA hangs, and I can only stop the computer
with the Alt-SysRq-Trick. The Alt-SysRQ shows that it seems to hang
during a rmmod - removing the ALSA modules has problems at this kernel
version. I'm using intel on board audio (intel-hda module). Sound
works - it's only a shutdown problem.

Ciao,
Wolfgang Liebich



[gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Francisco Ares
I have qt-3.3.8b-r1 and qt-4.4.2

I tried qt-assistant-4.4.2-r1, and it showed me no docs.

Then I tried to reinstall qt-4.4.2, looking for some use-flag I might
have missed, like doc or something like that.

The emerge process of qt-4.4.2 goes like that:



# emerge -v =x11-libs/qt-4.4.2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/qt-4.4.2  USE=dbus opengl qt3support 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB


 Verifying ebuild manifests

 Emerging (1 of 1) x11-libs/qt-4.4.2
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ]
 * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...[ ok ]
 * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...   [ ok ]
 Unpacking source...
 Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/qt-4.4.2/work
 Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/qt-4.4.2/work ...
 Source compiled.
 Test phase [not enabled]: x11-libs/qt-4.4.2

 Install qt-4.4.2 into /var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/qt-4.4.2/image/ category 
 x11-libs
 Completed installing qt-4.4.2 into /var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/qt-4.4.2/image/


 Installing x11-libs/qt-4.4.2
 * checking 0 files for package collisions
 * Removing /usr/share/doc
 Safely unmerging already-installed instance...
No package files given... Grabbing a set.
 Original instance of package unmerged safely.
 Auto-cleaning packages...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.

 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

#_


Nothing showing the traditional compile and install procedure.  Is this a bug?

Thankyou
Francisco


-- 
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two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw



Re: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Victor Ashirov
Hi!

uvesafb works with widescreen resoluitons.
Try this as kernel parameter:

video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,scroll:ywrap,1280x800-32

2009/3/30 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru:
 Hello.

 I have Dell Vostro 1400 with Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics
 Controller. It's native resolution is 1280x800.

 I've tried to use intelfb, but it does not work on LCD panel.

 uvesafb does not support wide screen resolutions. Supported
 resolutions are

 # cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes
 U:1024x768p-60
 U:800x600p-59
 U:640x480p-60
 U:1024x768p-60

 but FB worked definitely when I used Gentoo LiveCD to install system.

 Do I have other options? Any thoughts?


 Thanks :)

 --
 Sergey






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Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 08:13:33 Francisco Ares wrote:
 I have qt-3.3.8b-r1 and qt-4.4.2

 I tried qt-assistant-4.4.2-r1, and it showed me no docs.

[snip]

 Nothing showing the traditional compile and install procedure.  Is this a
 bug?

No. qt is now a meta package and exists only to have the qt split ebuilds as 
DEPENDencies, so it installs nothing. Unlike the kde split ebuilds, the devs 
decided not to call it qt-meta and promptly confused most of the KDE using 
community.

What you should do, it grep your world file for 'qt' and delete all explicit 
references therein to qt ebuilds. The 'emerge avuND world' and let portage 
figure out which ones you need based on dependencies of stuff that uses it. If 
'emerge --depclean' wants to remove you want to keep, then you can add that 
back to world explicitly

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

2009-03-30 Thread Steffen Loos

Simon schrieb:
 Hi there,
   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
 now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
 I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
On some systems (ubuntu, if i remember right) there was/is(?) an issue with the 
sound driver: please try do onload before you shutdown.

/ modprobe -v snd-hda-intel


Steffen






Re: [gentoo-user] full shutdown

2009-03-30 Thread Steffen Loos
Steffen Loos schrieb:
 Simon schrieb:
 Hi there,
   this must be simple (it always is) but I can't figure out by myself.
  I have one of the first eeepc (4gb) and when issuing `shutdown -h
 now` the computer shutdown perfectly but forgets to cut the current.
 I have to press the power button 4 sec to cut it manually.
 On some systems (ubuntu, if i remember right) there was/is(?) an issue with 
 the sound driver: please try do onload before you shutdown.
 
 / modprobe -v snd-hda-intel
sorry, 
/ modprobe -rv snd-hda-intel


Steffen



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:24:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 No. qt is now a meta package and exists only to have the qt split
 ebuilds as DEPENDencies, so it installs nothing. Unlike the kde split
 ebuilds, the devs decided not to call it qt-meta and promptly confused
 most of the KDE using community.

I'd say that's a good thing, it saved having to change every ebuild
depending on qt to depend on || (qt qt-meta) and is the same way the
transition to split XOrg packages was handled. Te -meta addition to the
KDE package names was a necessary kludge, because the split builds lived
alongside the monolithic variants.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/3/30 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:24:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 No. qt is now a meta package and exists only to have the qt split
 ebuilds as DEPENDencies, so it installs nothing. Unlike the kde split
 ebuilds, the devs decided not to call it qt-meta and promptly confused
 most of the KDE using community.

 I'd say that's a good thing, it saved having to change every ebuild
 depending on qt to depend on || (qt qt-meta) and is the same way the
 transition to split XOrg packages was handled. Te -meta addition to the
 KDE package names was a necessary kludge, because the split builds lived
 alongside the monolithic variants.

Calling it qt-meta instead of simply qt has nothing to do with this.
No ebuild should ever depend on the qt meta ebuild, instead it should
just depend on the needed parts that have been split up. So a
transition from the single qt dependency to the split up parts was
needed anyway and already took place. The only remaining reason for
the meta ebuild is that some people who want all of qt can simply
emerge the meta ebuild.

-- 
Regards,
Daniel



[gentoo-user] kacpid eating alot of cpu

2009-03-30 Thread Johan Blåbäck
Hi.

My laptop is in great need of cpu frequency scaling and sleep (it
overheats in 10 minutes of compiling otherwise and sounds like a train
when I'm sleeping), and as it seems on every how to I have found; acpi
is the way it suppose to be.
However acpi isn't so nice, since this is what happens (top)

 85:08.20  firefox
 22:31.57   X
 309:53.76 kacpid

after three days of use (notice the 309h of cpu-time). And in powertop,

15.7% (  inf)   interrupt : acpi

acpi takes quite alot of power. And for some reason, sometimes kacpid
takes ~80% for many minutes at a time and if I run powertop during
that period acpi is responsible for ~90%.

I thought that acpi was suppose to help with power waste and stuff
like that. On a forum I read that HAL is the thing one should use and
acpi is going obsolete. However, that doesn't help so much since it
seems as HAL depends on a lot of acpi options in the kernel, which are
the ones wasting the cpu and power.

So my questions are:
Is acpi suppose to act like this?
Can I fix it?
If not, whats the proper way to migrate to HAL?
Does HAL have cpufreq-tools?

Any help appreciated.

/Blå

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Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Francisco Ares
Thankyou guys

Francisco



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:38:48 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

 Calling it qt-meta instead of simply qt has nothing to do with this.
 No ebuild should ever depend on the qt meta ebuild, instead it should
 just depend on the needed parts that have been split up. So a
 transition from the single qt dependency to the split up parts was
 needed anyway and already took place. The only remaining reason for
 the meta ebuild is that some people who want all of qt can simply
 emerge the meta ebuild.

During the transition, there will be lots of packages depending on qt.
Your argument becomes true when all previous qt:4 ebuilds vanish from the
tree, and so do all ebuilds depending on them. Until then, the meta ebuild
is required, as it was with XOrg.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread Dale
John covici wrote:
 Hi.  Several months ago, during an update, I converted to baselayout2
 -- openrt, etc.  This has caused a couple of annoying problems.  When
 I shutdown the computer with shutdown -r now it does not completely
 shut down, the last message I get is init: no more processes at this
 run level.  How can I fix such a thing?

 The other problem is that once in a while a service dies -- named did
 this -- and it would not let me stop the service and when I tried to
 restart I got the message that the service was already started and it
 would not start.  How do I tell openrt or whomever that something has
 already stopped?

 Any assistance on these would be appreciated.

   

If something is stopped but init thinks it is still running, try the zap
option.  /etc/init.d/service zap

Not sure on the rest.  Hope that helps tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/3/30 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:38:48 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

 Calling it qt-meta instead of simply qt has nothing to do with this.
 No ebuild should ever depend on the qt meta ebuild, instead it should
 just depend on the needed parts that have been split up. So a
 transition from the single qt dependency to the split up parts was
 needed anyway and already took place. The only remaining reason for
 the meta ebuild is that some people who want all of qt can simply
 emerge the meta ebuild.

 During the transition, there will be lots of packages depending on qt.
 Your argument becomes true when all previous qt:4 ebuilds vanish from the
 tree, and so do all ebuilds depending on them. Until then, the meta ebuild
 is required, as it was with XOrg.


Okay, let me try to make this more clear.

First some example dependencies for the switch from monolithic to
split qt which happened between qt-4.3 and qt-4.4:

monolithic phase:
DEPEND=x11-libs/qt:4

transition phase (monolithic and split qt coexist):
DEPEND=|| ( ( x11-libs/qt-gui x11-libs/qt-opengl ) =x11-libs/qt-4.3* )

split phase (only split qt left):
DEPEND=x11-libs/qt-gui x11-libs/qt-opengl

In the monolithic phase there was no meta ebuild and everything
depended on the monolithic qt ebuild. During the transition phase the
dependencies have been separated to make it possible to use either the
monolithic qt-4.3 or the split qt-4.4 without any ebuild depending
direct on the new qt-4.4 meta ebuild but just the split parts which
are needed by the application. After the removal of the monolithic
qt-4.3 ebuild which already happened the ebuilds need to depend on the
split parts only. So there should be no ebuild in the monolithic phase
and almost all ebuilds in the transition phase that will be slowly
converted to the split phase.

So as far as I see the new qt meta ebuild wasn't needed at any time.

-- 
Regards,
Daniel



[gentoo-user] konqueror-4.2.1-r1 not interpreting javascript properly

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi,

One of our internal web sites launches an Add record function with this 
javascript (gleaned from the statusbar):

javascript: void window.open(blah-blah-blah.php?,InsertWindow, 
width=600,height=400,left=50,top=50,scrollbars=yes,status=no,
toolbar=no,resizable=no,dependent=yes)

Using konqueror-4.2.1-r1, if I set my Konqueror Start Page to the Intro Page 
or blank, this works correctly and I get the HMTL popup I expect with the 
correct fields rendered correctly.

If I set my Konqueror Start Page to my home directory, I get a popup window 
using file view mode (like dolphin) which obviously cannot ever work...

Before I report this as a bug, is this some kind of expected behavior I am 
running into?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 12:33:48 Dale wrote:
 John covici wrote:

  The other problem is that once in a while a service dies -- named did
  this -- and it would not let me stop the service and when I tried to
  restart I got the message that the service was already started and it
  would not start.  How do I tell openrt or whomever that something has
  already stopped?
 
  Any assistance on these would be appreciated.

 If something is stopped but init thinks it is still running, try the zap
 option.  /etc/init.d/service zap

 Not sure on the rest.  Hope that helps tho.

His real problem isn't baselayout2 and openrc, it's named.

named is notorious for crappy stupid behaviour when being stopped and 
confusing the init scripts. It happens to me so often that now I tossed out 
the init script and do it manually.

One day when my country's currency is worth something I can afford ans then I 
can get rid of named and it's start-up crap forever. It's still the only 
service I ever have to use zap on

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 30 March 2009 07:36:18 Victor Ashirov wrote:

 uvesafb works with widescreen resoluitons.

... but only if your BIOS does.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re[2]: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Monday, March 30, 2009, 2:23:43 PM, Peter wrote:

 On Monday 30 March 2009 07:36:18 Victor Ashirov wrote:

 uvesafb works with widescreen resoluitons.

 ... but only if your BIOS does.

Do you know which FB Gentoo LiveCD uses? I got FB working with it and
want to do same on my base system.


-- 
Sergey




Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 13:19:26 Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  His real problem isn't baselayout2 and openrc, it's named.
 
  named is notorious for crappy stupid behaviour when being stopped and
  confusing the init scripts. It happens to me so often that now I tossed
  out the init script and do it manually.
 
  One day when my country's currency is worth something I can afford ans
  then I can get rid of named and it's start-up crap forever. It's still
  the only service I ever have to use zap on

 I don't even know what named is but the zap option usually works for a
 lost service.  Sort of like a reset button.  I just wonder what would
 happen if it is really running when the zap option is used.  Start a new
 process I guess.  I guess ps would be a good friend then.

named is the BIND name server from the same guys as dhcpcd (and also vixie-
cron). It's a *reference* *implementation* of how a name server should work 
(it exactly 100% behaves just like the RFCs say), but as a name server in 
*production* it just sucks. It's extremely popular because it's free and just 
because life evolved that way but in real life it's the world's worst PITA to 
administer.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 30 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 30 March 2009 13:19:26 Dale wrote:
  Alan McKinnon wrote:
   His real problem isn't baselayout2 and openrc, it's named.
  
   named is notorious for crappy stupid behaviour when being stopped and
   confusing the init scripts. It happens to me so often that now I tossed
   out the init script and do it manually.
  
   One day when my country's currency is worth something I can afford ans
   then I can get rid of named and it's start-up crap forever. It's still
   the only service I ever have to use zap on
 
  I don't even know what named is but the zap option usually works for a
  lost service.  Sort of like a reset button.  I just wonder what would
  happen if it is really running when the zap option is used.  Start a new
  process I guess.  I guess ps would be a good friend then.

 named is the BIND name server from the same guys as dhcpcd (and also vixie-
 cron). It's a *reference* *implementation* of how a name server should work
 (it exactly 100% behaves just like the RFCs say), but as a name server in
 *production* it just sucks. It's extremely popular because it's free and
 just because life evolved that way but in real life it's the world's worst
 PITA to administer.

hm, I hadn't trouble with named not stopping so far. Now apache updates... 
that is a can of worms.




Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread John covici
on Monday 03/30/2009 Daniel Pielmeier(daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com) wrote
  2009/3/30 John covici cov...@ccs.covici.com:
   Hi.  Several months ago, during an update, I converted to baselayout2
   -- openrt, etc.  This has caused a couple of annoying problems.  When
   I shutdown the computer with shutdown -r now it does not completely
   shut down, the last message I get is init: no more processes at this
   run level.  How can I fix such a thing?
  
   The other problem is that once in a while a service dies -- named did
   this -- and it would not let me stop the service and when I tried to
   restart I got the message that the service was already started and it
   would not start.  How do I tell openrt or whomever that something has
   already stopped?
  
   Any assistance on these would be appreciated.
  
  Did you follow the migration guide?
  
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml

Yep.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/3/30 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:53:30 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

 So as far as I see the new qt meta ebuild wasn't needed at any time.

 So every ebuild, in the tree and all overlays, was updated before the
 split ebuilds were introduced?


I don't know the exact progress but I think the split ebuilds were
introduced masked, then the dependencies have been adjusted
accordingly. After the transition was done the ebuilds have been
unmasked.

-- 
Regards,
Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/3/30 John covici cov...@ccs.covici.com:
 Hi.  Several months ago, during an update, I converted to baselayout2
 -- openrt, etc.  This has caused a couple of annoying problems.  When
 I shutdown the computer with shutdown -r now it does not completely
 shut down, the last message I get is init: no more processes at this
 run level.  How can I fix such a thing?

 The other problem is that once in a while a service dies -- named did
 this -- and it would not let me stop the service and when I tried to
 restart I got the message that the service was already started and it
 would not start.  How do I tell openrt or whomever that something has
 already stopped?

 Any assistance on these would be appreciated.

Did you follow the migration guide?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml

-- 
Regards,
Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:17:00 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

  So every ebuild, in the tree and all overlays, was updated before the
  split ebuilds were introduced?

 I don't know the exact progress but I think the split ebuilds were
 introduced masked, then the dependencies have been adjusted
 accordingly. After the transition was done the ebuilds have been
 unmasked.

OK, so the meta ebuild is just a safety net for those running ebuilds not
in the portage tree.


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Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread John covici
on Monday 03/30/2009 Alan McKinnon(alan.mckin...@gmail.com) wrote
  On Monday 30 March 2009 12:33:48 Dale wrote:
   John covici wrote:
  
The other problem is that once in a while a service dies -- named did
this -- and it would not let me stop the service and when I tried to
restart I got the message that the service was already started and it
would not start.  How do I tell openrt or whomever that something has
already stopped?
   
Any assistance on these would be appreciated.
  
   If something is stopped but init thinks it is still running, try the zap
   option.  /etc/init.d/service zap
  
   Not sure on the rest.  Hope that helps tho.
  
  His real problem isn't baselayout2 and openrc, it's named.
  
  named is notorious for crappy stupid behaviour when being stopped and 
  confusing the init scripts. It happens to me so often that now I tossed out 
  the init script and do it manually.
  
  One day when my country's currency is worth something I can afford ans then 
  I 
  can get rid of named and it's start-up crap forever. It's still the only 
  service I ever have to use zap on

Thanks, at least I can restart with no difficulties after using zap.
Spamd has the opposite behavior, the init script tells me it died when
its actually running.


-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:53:30 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

 So as far as I see the new qt meta ebuild wasn't needed at any time.

So every ebuild, in the tree and all overlays, was updated before the
split ebuilds were introduced?


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Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:

 His real problem isn't baselayout2 and openrc, it's named.

 named is notorious for crappy stupid behaviour when being stopped and 
 confusing the init scripts. It happens to me so often that now I tossed out 
 the init script and do it manually.

 One day when my country's currency is worth something I can afford ans then I 
 can get rid of named and it's start-up crap forever. It's still the only 
 service I ever have to use zap on

   

I don't even know what named is but the zap option usually works for a
lost service.  Sort of like a reset button.  I just wonder what would
happen if it is really running when the zap option is used.  Start a new
process I guess.  I guess ps would be a good friend then.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/3/30 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:17:00 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

  So every ebuild, in the tree and all overlays, was updated before the
  split ebuilds were introduced?

 I don't know the exact progress but I think the split ebuilds were
 introduced masked, then the dependencies have been adjusted
 accordingly. After the transition was done the ebuilds have been
 unmasked.

 OK, so the meta ebuild is just a safety net for those running ebuilds not
 in the portage tree.


Probably, but even overlays should consider changing the dependencies
and use the advantage of the split ebuilds ;-)

-- 
Regards,
Daniel



Re[2]: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Monday, March 30, 2009, 9:36:18 AM, Victor wrote:

 Hi!

 uvesafb works with widescreen resoluitons.
 Try this as kernel parameter:

 video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,scroll:ywrap,1280x800-32

 2009/3/30 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru:
 Hello.

 I have Dell Vostro 1400 with Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics
 Controller. It's native resolution is 1280x800.

 I've tried to use intelfb, but it does not work on LCD panel.

 uvesafb does not support wide screen resolutions. Supported
 resolutions are

 # cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes
 U:1024x768p-60
 U:800x600p-59
 U:640x480p-60
 U:1024x768p-60

 but FB worked definitely when I used Gentoo LiveCD to install system.

 Do I have other options? Any thoughts?


 Thanks :)

uvesafb: unrecognized option scroll:ywrap


Current config:

/boot/grub/grub.conf:

  title Gentoo Linux 2.6.27-r8-b0
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.27-gentoo-r8-b0 root=/dev/sda3 
video=uvesafb:1280x800-32,mtrr:3,ywrap

lynx ~ # dmesg | grep uvesafb
Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda3 video=uvesafb:1280x800-32,mtrr:3,ywrap
uvesafb: Intel Corporation, Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics Controller, 
Hardware Version 0.0, OEM: Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics Chip Accelerated 
VGA BIOS, VBE v3.0
uvesafb: VBIOS/hardware supports DDC2 transfers
uvesafb: monitor limits: vf = 60 Hz, hf = 49 kHz, clk = 71 MHz
uvesafb: scrolling: redraw
uvesafb: framebuffer at 0xe000, mapped to 0xf888, using 6144k, total 
7616k


but FB does not change my recolution...


I followed this instruction:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/


-- 
Sergey




[gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread John covici
Hi.  Several months ago, during an update, I converted to baselayout2
-- openrt, etc.  This has caused a couple of annoying problems.  When
I shutdown the computer with shutdown -r now it does not completely
shut down, the last message I get is init: no more processes at this
run level.  How can I fix such a thing?

The other problem is that once in a while a service dies -- named did
this -- and it would not let me stop the service and when I tried to
restart I got the message that the service was already started and it
would not start.  How do I tell openrt or whomever that something has
already stopped?

Any assistance on these would be appreciated.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-4.4.3 won't install any files

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:58:43 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

  OK, so the meta ebuild is just a safety net for those running ebuilds
  not in the portage tree.

 Probably, but even overlays should consider changing the dependencies
 and use the advantage of the split ebuilds ;-)

Absolutely, but should != do :(
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of baselayout2 problems

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 14:08:11 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Monday 30 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  named is the BIND name server from the same guys as dhcpcd (and also
  vixie- cron). It's a *reference* *implementation* of how a name server
  should work (it exactly 100% behaves just like the RFCs say), but as a
  name server in *production* it just sucks. It's extremely popular because
  it's free and just because life evolved that way but in real life it's
  the world's worst PITA to administer.

 hm, I hadn't trouble with named not stopping so far. Now apache updates...
 that is a can of worms.

Did you try stopping a named that is auth for 36,000 domains? 

And then try starting it again? Trust me, it's painful. It's at least 30 
minutes to get it back up, whereas ans can restart, including a full reload, 
and be accurately answering queries again in less than 3 seconds

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread laurent

Hi,

I finished etc-updates with a lot of files, is there a way or even need 
to make all application reload the updated configuration files?


thx
Laurent



Re: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 30 March 2009 12:45:17 Sergey A. Kobzar wrote:

 Do you know which FB Gentoo LiveCD uses?

Frame buffer? No, sorry - I haven't used a live CD.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 16:25:10 laurent wrote:
 Hi,

 I finished etc-updates with a lot of files, is there a way or even need
 to make all application reload the updated configuration files?

Yes, it's called a reboot. Nothing else will get the job done and guarantee 
it's done right without errors.

The better way is to just look at the files that were changed, decide for 
yourself if they need to be restarted and if so restart them manually.

If this reply sounds snarky, it's because your question is actually 
nonsensical from a Unix perspective (although probably quite reasonable from a 
human perspective). This is a situation that requires either a sledgehammer 
approach or intelligent human intervention.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] recommendations sought for fonts

2009-03-30 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Thank you willie, dale, and paul for your suggestions.

allan



Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:25:10 +0200
laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote:

 I finished etc-updates with a lot of files, is there a way or even need 
 to make all application reload the updated configuration files?

Not quite what you asked, but there's easy way to check if there are
any processes still using pre-update (non-existing now) libs:

  lsof | grep 'DEL.*lib' | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | sort -u

lsof here is sys-process/lsof (not part of the @system afaik).

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Re: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Hartman
2009/3/29 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru:
 Hello.

 I have Dell Vostro 1400 with Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics
 Controller. It's native resolution is 1280x800.

 I've tried to use intelfb, but it does not work on LCD panel.

 uvesafb does not support wide screen resolutions. Supported
 resolutions are

 # cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes
 U:1024x768p-60
 U:800x600p-59
 U:640x480p-60
 U:1024x768p-60

 but FB worked definitely when I used Gentoo LiveCD to install system.

Do you still have the Live CD? can you boot it and see what it is using?



Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread AllenJB

laurent wrote:

Hi,

I finished etc-updates with a lot of files, is there a way or even need 
to make all application reload the updated configuration files?


thx
Laurent



It depends upon the software / changes involved. Many services (eg. web 
server, mail servers) have a reload option on the init script (ie. 
/etc/init.d/apache reload), otherwise you generally need to restart them 
to apply changes. Some services / daemons will pick up changes on the 
fly, but generally they don't in my experience.


Programs which are not services / daemons will pick the changes up the 
next time they are run.


You DO NOT generally need to reboot to make sure config changes are 
correctly loaded. This is not Windows. You just need to read the 
documentation for the software involved.


AllenJB



Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 17:20:44 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:25:10 +0200

 laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote:
  I finished etc-updates with a lot of files, is there a way or even need
  to make all application reload the updated configuration files?

 Not quite what you asked, but there's easy way to check if there are
 any processes still using pre-update (non-existing now) libs:

   lsof | grep 'DEL.*lib' | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | sort -u

 lsof here is sys-process/lsof (not part of the @system afaik).

He asked about config files updated via etc-update, not about libs updated via 
emerge

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Alejandro
2009/3/30 Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com


 2009/3/29 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru:
  Hello.
 
  I have Dell Vostro 1400 with Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics
  Controller. It's native resolution is 1280x800.
 
  I've tried to use intelfb, but it does not work on LCD panel.
 
  uvesafb does not support wide screen resolutions. Supported
  resolutions are
 
  # cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes
  U:1024x768p-60
  U:800x600p-59
  U:640x480p-60
  U:1024x768p-60
 
  but FB worked definitely when I used Gentoo LiveCD to install system.

 Do you still have the Live CD? can you boot it and see what it is using?


I have a similar laptop, with the same intel chip and intelfb also didn't
work. while vesafb works good.

Cheers!


Re: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Fernando Antunes
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Alejandro elcorreode...@gmail.com wrote:



 2009/3/30 Paul Hartman 
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com
 

 2009/3/29 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru:
  Hello.
 
  I have Dell Vostro 1400 with Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics
  Controller. It's native resolution is 1280x800.
 
  I've tried to use intelfb, but it does not work on LCD panel.
 
  uvesafb does not support wide screen resolutions. Supported
  resolutions are
 
  # cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes
  U:1024x768p-60
  U:800x600p-59
  U:640x480p-60
  U:1024x768p-60
 
  but FB worked definitely when I used Gentoo LiveCD to install system.

 Do you still have the Live CD? can you boot it and see what it is using?


 I have a similar laptop, with the same intel chip and intelfb also didn't
 work. while vesafb works good.

 Cheers!


Vesafb works fine for me too.


Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread laurent

Alan McKinnon a écrit :

On Monday 30 March 2009 17:20:44 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
  

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:25:10 +0200

laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote:


I finished etc-updates with a lot of files, is there a way or even need
to make all application reload the updated configuration files?
  

Not quite what you asked, but there's easy way to check if there are
any processes still using pre-update (non-existing now) libs:

  lsof | grep 'DEL.*lib' | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | sort -u

lsof here is sys-process/lsof (not part of the @system afaik).



He asked about config files updated via etc-update, not about libs updated via 
emerge


  
yes it was usefull, I saw around fifteen process not updated so I did a 
reboot, and it's fine :)

thanks guys
L



[gentoo-user] PAN with bluez-utils-3

2009-03-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list!

I used to have a working private area network (pan) over bluetooth.
However, since the update to net-wireless/bluez-utils-3.36, it doesn't
work anymore.

I especially want to get rid of the old daemons (USE=-old-daemons)
because, as I understand it, they are deprecated. However, I just can't
find satisfying documentation on the new structure and config files.

I don't want to go into detail on what exactly doesn't work at the
moment because I really just guessed how I had to configure everything.

So my question is: Does anyone have a working set of configuration files
for newer bluez-utils? Preferably something related to the roles GN or NAP.

Thanks in advance!
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 09:20:44PM +0600, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:25:10 +0200
 laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote:
 
  I finished etc-updates with a lot of files, is there a way or even need 
  to make all application reload the updated configuration files?
 
 Not quite what you asked, but there's easy way to check if there are
 any processes still using pre-update (non-existing now) libs:
 
   lsof | grep 'DEL.*lib' | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | sort -u
 
 lsof here is sys-process/lsof (not part of the @system afaik).
 
This is worth an alias in my .zshrc...
And imho you should also post it in http://www.commandlinefu.com/

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Monday, March 30, 2009, 7:08:40 PM, Fernando wrote:



 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Alejandro elcorreode...@gmail.com wrote:


 2009/3/30 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com


 2009/3/29 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru:
 Hello.

 I have Dell Vostro 1400 with Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics
 Controller. It's native resolution is 1280x800.

 I've tried to use intelfb, but it does not work on LCD panel.

 uvesafb does not support wide screen resolutions. Supported
 resolutions are

 # cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes
 U:1024x768p-60
 U:800x600p-59
 U:640x480p-60
 U:1024x768p-60

 but FB worked definitely when I used Gentoo LiveCD to install system.

 Do you still have the Live CD? can you boot it and see what it is using?





 I have a similar laptop, with the same intel chip and intelfb also
 didn't work. while vesafb works good.

 Cheers!


 Vesafb works fine for me too.

In native 1280x800 resolution?

-- 
Sergey




[gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC (just to be sure)...

2009-03-30 Thread Jarry

Hi,

today after syncing I found new version of GCC being available,
emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world shows:

[ebuild  NS   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2-r3 [4.1.2] USE=...

I found a Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide, but it deals with GCC 3.x,
or 3.x-4.x. Should I follow that guide when upgrading 4.x version
of GCC too? In a summary, the upgrade guide recommends this way:

# emerge -uav gcc
# gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2-r3
# env-update  source /etc/profile
# emerge --oneshot -av libtool
# emerge -eav system
# emerge -eav world
# emerge -aC =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2

I'm asking just to be sure, because I have such a bad feeling,
that screwing up gcc upgrade might render my system unusable...

Jarry


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Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-user] frambuffer Dell Vostro 1400

2009-03-30 Thread Alejandro
2009/3/30 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru

 Monday, March 30, 2009, 7:08:40 PM, Fernando wrote:



  On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Alejandro elcorreode...@gmail.com
 wrote:


  2009/3/30 Paul Hartman 
  paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com
 


  2009/3/29 Sergey A. Kobzar sergey.kob...@mail.ru:
  Hello.
 
  I have Dell Vostro 1400 with Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics
  Controller. It's native resolution is 1280x800.
 
  I've tried to use intelfb, but it does not work on LCD panel.
 
  uvesafb does not support wide screen resolutions. Supported
  resolutions are
 
  # cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes
  U:1024x768p-60
  U:800x600p-59
  U:640x480p-60
  U:1024x768p-60
 
  but FB worked definitely when I used Gentoo LiveCD to install system.

  Do you still have the Live CD? can you boot it and see what it is using?





  I have a similar laptop, with the same intel chip and intelfb also
  didn't work. while vesafb works good.

  Cheers!


  Vesafb works fine for me too.

 In native 1280x800 resolution?

 --
 Sergey



I can't remeber but maybe is 1024x768


Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC (just to be sure)...

2009-03-30 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 19:56 +0200, Jarry wrote:
 Hi,
 
 today after syncing I found new version of GCC being available,
 emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world shows:
 
 [ebuild  NS   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2-r3 [4.1.2] USE=...
 
 I found a Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide, but it deals with GCC 3.x,
 or 3.x-4.x. Should I follow that guide when upgrading 4.x version
 of GCC too? In a summary, the upgrade guide recommends this way:
 
 # emerge -uav gcc
 # gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2-r3
 # env-update  source /etc/profile
 # emerge --oneshot -av libtool
 # emerge -eav system
 # emerge -eav world
 # emerge -aC =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2
 
 I'm asking just to be sure, because I have such a bad feeling,
 that screwing up gcc upgrade might render my system unusable...

You're going from a 4.x to a 4.x... it's a relatively minor upgrade, not
like going from 3.x to 4.x.  If you're that paranoid, keep 4.1.2 around
or create a quickpkg until they drop.




Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC (just to be sure)...

2009-03-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Jarry schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 today after syncing I found new version of GCC being available,
 emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world shows:
 
 [ebuild  NS   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2-r3 [4.1.2] USE=...
 
 I found a Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide, but it deals with GCC 3.x,
 or 3.x-4.x. Should I follow that guide when upgrading 4.x version
 of GCC too? In a summary, the upgrade guide recommends this way:
 
 # emerge -uav gcc
 # gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2-r3
 # env-update  source /etc/profile
 # emerge --oneshot -av libtool
 # emerge -eav system
 # emerge -eav world
 # emerge -aC =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2
 
 I'm asking just to be sure, because I have such a bad feeling,
 that screwing up gcc upgrade might render my system unusable...
 
 Jarry
 
 

You don't need to follow this guide. Just emerge and you'll be fine.
However, you might want to make adjustments to CFLAGS (especially when
you have a newer CPU, there are new -march settings for your chip) and
reemerge cpu-intensive programs and maybe important libraries like glibc
to profit from the new features.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC (just to be sure)...

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Jarry schrieb am 30.03.2009 19:56:
 Hi,
 
 today after syncing I found new version of GCC being available,
 emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world shows:
 
 [ebuild  NS   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2-r3 [4.1.2] USE=...
 
 I found a Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide, but it deals with GCC 3.x,
 or 3.x-4.x. Should I follow that guide when upgrading 4.x version
 of GCC too? In a summary, the upgrade guide recommends this way:
 
 # emerge -uav gcc
 # gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2-r3
 # env-update  source /etc/profile
 # emerge --oneshot -av libtool
 # emerge -eav system
 # emerge -eav world
 # emerge -aC =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2
 
 I'm asking just to be sure, because I have such a bad feeling,
 that screwing up gcc upgrade might render my system unusable...
 
 Jarry
 
 

The recommendations in the section General Upgrade Instructions should
apply here.

Another thing probably worth to mention is that some big packages (xorg,
mono, firefox, etc) are about to go stable in the near future. So it is
maybe a good idea to upgrade this packages in one go with the gcc
upgrade to avoid needlessly double compilation.

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[gentoo-user] audio convert splitter etc...

2009-03-30 Thread Vasya Volkov

Hello.
Can you suggest some simple program which can make these functions: 
1).ape,.cue splitting 2)converting flac/ape/wav to ogg mp3 etc. 
3)cutting parts of audio files? Please with overlay if one there is.




Re: [gentoo-user] kacpid eating alot of cpu

2009-03-30 Thread Michael Higgins
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:57:11 +0200
Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is acpi suppose to act like this?

No. But you probably really knew that. ;-)

 Can I fix it?

I had to update to latest kernels, as bug patch for kacpid hogging CPU with 
certain laptops and certain configurations is in 2.6.28, finally. (Happens 
consistently when returning from sleep or when switching out the extra battery 
for the DVD. I think Dell and some HP machines are/were affected.)

IDK if this will help *you*, but if it smells similar... might be worth 
checking into.

Cheers,


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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC (just to be sure)...

2009-03-30 Thread KH
Florian Philipp schrieb:
 Jarry schrieb:
   
 Hi,

 today after syncing I found new version of GCC being available,
 emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world shows:

 [ebuild  NS   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2-r3 [4.1.2] USE=...

 [snip]

 Jarry


 

 You don't need to follow this guide. Just emerge and you'll be fine.
 However, you might want to make adjustments to CFLAGS (especially when
 you have a newer CPU, there are new -march settings for your chip) and
 reemerge cpu-intensive programs and maybe important libraries like glibc
 to profit from the new features.

   
Hi,

have a look at: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags#-march.3Dnative

I just changed this and did only follow up till emerge -eav system. Will
skip world unless I do run in trouble.

kh



Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:31:47 +0100, AllenJB wrote:

 It depends upon the software / changes involved. Many services (eg. web 
 server, mail servers) have a reload option on the init script (ie. 
 /etc/init.d/apache reload), otherwise you generally need to restart
 them to apply changes.

Or send them a SIGHUP - killall -HUP processname


-- 
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Programmers do it bit by bit.


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Re: [gentoo-user] reload etc conf files

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 23:21:00 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:31:47 +0100, AllenJB wrote:
  It depends upon the software / changes involved. Many services (eg. web
  server, mail servers) have a reload option on the init script (ie.
  /etc/init.d/apache reload), otherwise you generally need to restart
  them to apply changes.

 Or send them a SIGHUP - killall -HUP processname

Don't try that with X though...

-- 
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[gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
This doesn't seem to be my week with Konqueror. Suddenly my bank's internet 
banking site won't work, claiming SSL errors.

Could someone please double check using konqueror-4.2.1* if this link works, 
or if I have done something stupid config-wise:

http://www.absa.co.za
In the left sidebar there's a red block. Top right of that block is a logon 
button. Clicking it should take you to an https login page, instead I almost 
instantly get an error page.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 30 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 This doesn't seem to be my week with Konqueror. Suddenly my bank's internet
 banking site won't work, claiming SSL errors.

 Could someone please double check using konqueror-4.2.1* if this link
 works, or if I have done something stupid config-wise:

well it works with 4.2.67 - and my bank's website works with 4.2.1 when I used 
it last week. You have done a revdep-rebuilt?



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 March 2009 23:49:37 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Monday 30 March 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  This doesn't seem to be my week with Konqueror. Suddenly my bank's
  internet banking site won't work, claiming SSL errors.
 
  Could someone please double check using konqueror-4.2.1* if this link
  works, or if I have done something stupid config-wise:

 well it works with 4.2.67 - and my bank's website works with 4.2.1 when I
 used it last week. You have done a revdep-rebuilt?

Yes, lately I've been doing emerge world|depclean|revdep-rebuild almost daily, 
and it's been over a month since something failed.

But I just noticed that I have some kde-testing packages installed. No idea 
how they got there as I reverted to portage-tree only for KDE some time back. 
I must have wanted to check something in the overlay and forgot to remove it 
when done.

So I'll remove the overlay, rebuild, test again and report back the results.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:40 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Could someone please double check using konqueror-4.2.1* if this link
 works, or if I have done something stupid config-wise:

The login page does not work here with konqueror-4.2.1-r1 (amd64),
giving a ssl negotiation failed error. Other https sites work fine,
however.

$ konqueror -version
Qt: 4.5.0
KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1)
Konqueror: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1)

I have not used the kde overlay for quite some time, so that is not the
issue, at least for me.

Regards,

Brandon Vargo




Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 This doesn't seem to be my week with Konqueror. Suddenly my bank's internet 
 banking site won't work, claiming SSL errors.

 Could someone please double check using konqueror-4.2.1* if this link works, 
 or if I have done something stupid config-wise:

 http://www.absa.co.za
 In the left sidebar there's a red block. Top right of that block is a logon 
 button. Clicking it should take you to an https login page, instead I almost 
 instantly get an error page.

   

Well, I'm still on the old KDE 3.5 stuff but I tried it anyway.  I get
this little boo boo message with Konqueror:

An error occurred while loading https://ib.absa.co.za/ib/ib.jsp:
Could not connect to host ib.absa.co.za.

If you got the same, this may not just be a KDE 4 boo boo.  I also tried
it in Seamonkey, it loaded the page fine with no error.

Hope this piece of oddity helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S. Care to share your password info so I can test this properly? 
ROFLMAO



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 00:04:33 Brandon Vargo wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:40 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Could someone please double check using konqueror-4.2.1* if this link
  works, or if I have done something stupid config-wise:

 The login page does not work here with konqueror-4.2.1-r1 (amd64),
 giving a ssl negotiation failed error. Other https sites work fine,
 however.

 $ konqueror -version
 Qt: 4.5.0
 KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1)
 Konqueror: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1)

 I have not used the kde overlay for quite some time, so that is not the
 issue, at least for me.


So it's not just me then. I have almost the identical setup, apart from qt - 
I'm still on 4.4.2. Maybe I should hold off rebuilding kde and wait a day or 
two for KDE-4.2.2

Thanks for the feedback

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 00:06:23 Dale wrote:

 Well, I'm still on the old KDE 3.5 stuff but I tried it anyway.  I get
 this little boo boo message with Konqueror:

 An error occurred while loading https://ib.absa.co.za/ib/ib.jsp:
 Could not connect to host ib.absa.co.za.

Now that's interesting. That's the page you get redirected to after SSL 
negotiation succeeds. And I know for a fact it worked for many years in 3.5.x

Looks like my bank is doing what I do so often:

Change stuff and hope that it's transparent. If not, the users will moan and 
I'll fix it. Maybe.

:-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 March 2009, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  This doesn't seem to be my week with Konqueror. Suddenly my bank's
  internet banking site won't work, claiming SSL errors.

 Well, I'm still on the old KDE 3.5 stuff but I tried it anyway.

 If you got the same, this may not just be a KDE 4 boo boo.

I'm running vanilla KDE, so with Konqueror 3.5.9 I can open this page fine 
when I click on the logon button: https://ib.absa.co.za/ib/ib.jsp

I am not sure if my javascript settings are default, but if you enable Debug 
and Report Errors you should see if this is a javascript problem.  Also I 
would think that you need to have your cookies switched on (haven't tried 
without).

HTH.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 This doesn't seem to be my week with Konqueror. Suddenly my bank's internet
 banking site won't work, claiming SSL errors.

 Could someone please double check using konqueror-4.2.1* if this link works,
 or if I have done something stupid config-wise:

 http://www.absa.co.za
 In the left sidebar there's a red block. Top right of that block is a logon
 button. Clicking it should take you to an https login page, instead I almost
 instantly get an error page.

It works fine for me in Konq 4.2.2 on Linux and Konq 4.2.1 on Windows XP.



Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and https sites

2009-03-30 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 March 2009 00:06:23 Dale wrote:

   
 Well, I'm still on the old KDE 3.5 stuff but I tried it anyway.  I get
 this little boo boo message with Konqueror:

 An error occurred while loading https://ib.absa.co.za/ib/ib.jsp:
 Could not connect to host ib.absa.co.za.
 

 Now that's interesting. That's the page you get redirected to after SSL 
 negotiation succeeds. And I know for a fact it worked for many years in 3.5.x

 Looks like my bank is doing what I do so often:

 Change stuff and hope that it's transparent. If not, the users will moan and 
 I'll fix it. Maybe.

 :-)

   

Don't worry, me and my bank has went a few rounds too.  They just don't
understand that Linux doesn't get viruses like their windoze boxes
does.  They may get a wake up call in the next day or so tho.  I been
hearing about this nasty fishing lure going around.  Heck, even the CBS
news network was infected here.  It took those guys almost two weeks to
find out they even had it then several days to figure out it was on
about all of theirs.

Me, I'd switch to Linux something and boot windoze.  Some people are not
as smart as us tho.  ;-)

Windoze is like dating.  Time tells what is more secure.  I don't hear
about Linux boxes getting infected like this.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs -plasma -webkit

2009-03-30 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:

  If so are they no long valid for kdelibs (in which case
  I leave them in make.conf) or are they completely
  deprecated flages (and hence I should removed them
  from make.conf)?

 The former. Other stuff is likely to make use of plasma and webkit (they are 
 fairly generic things)

OK

got it
Gmane requires more new than old
ok

thx

James









Re: [gentoo-user] audio convert splitter etc...

2009-03-30 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:40:17 +0400
Vasya Volkov my.pipes.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 Can you suggest some simple program which can make these functions: 
 1).ape,.cue splitting 2)converting flac/ape/wav to ogg mp3 etc. 
 3)cutting parts of audio files? Please with overlay if one there is.
 

I use following simple script for flac-mp3 conversion:
=
#!/bin/bash

lame_opts=--vbr-new -V 2 -B 256

for FLAC in $@; do

MP3=`basename ${FLAC%.flac}.mp3`

TAGS=TITLE TRACKNUMBER GENRE DATE COMMENT ARTIST ALBUM\
Title Tracknumber Genre Date Comment Artist Album
for VAR in $TAGS; do eval $VAR=''; done

eval $(metaflac --export-tags-to=- $FLAC | sed 's/=\(.*\)/=\1/')

[ -z $TITLE ]  TITLE=$Title
[ -z $TRACKNUMBER ]  TRACKNUMBER=$Tracknumber
[ -z $GENRE ]  GENRE=$Genre
[ -z $DATE ]  DATE=$Date
[ -z $COMMENT ]  COMMENT=$Comment
[ -z $ARTIST ]  ARTIST=$Artist
[ -z $ALBUM ]  ALBUM=$Album

echo Converting $FLAC to mp3: $MP3

flac -c -d $FLAC | lame $lame_opts - $MP3

id3tag \
--artist=$ARTIST \
--album=$ALBUM \
--song=$TITLE \
--track=$TRACKNUMBER \
--genre=$GENRE \
--year=$DATE \
--comment=$COMMENT \
$MP3

done
=

Script actually depends on following packages (main tree):
  media-libs/flac
  media-libs/id3lib
  media-sound/lame



I'm sorry for posting following on the list, since it's non-english.
Just disregard the rest of the message, please :)

Concerning ape, there were some suggestions in (quite recent) ape 2
wav (flac) thread on gentoo-user-ru mailing list:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user-ru/msg_060cfe116536e31d0b823d7d5117e999.xml
Also, check out this link (if you haven't stumbled upon it already):
http://engraver.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/monkeys-audio-ape-cue-%D0%B2-gentoo/

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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