Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 00:21:18 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 30 June 2010 01:16:44 Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Alex, have you tried turning off the Nepomuke service? I see in one of > > > your screenshots that you are having problems with it (segfaults). > > > > No. The screenshot was taken shortly after logging in, the log shows the > > Strigi crashes. So I turned off Strigi, but kept Nepomuk. > > Correct. > > > Half of KDE4 stops working without nepomuk. > > Like akonadi - no akonadi = no useable kontact > > nepomukis very light on resources, strigi is the hog. At some point with KDE-4.4.4 I started getting errors from akonadi which mentioned nepomuke not having been registered with dbus or similar. I then logged into KDE and switched off Nepomuke, errors went away (although I still get the akonadi progress bar coming up when I launch kmail). I just started Kontact and looked at ps which showed that Nepomuke is running. So I assume that Kontact (and or Kmail) starts nepomuke when launched? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: VM experiences and faqs?
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:20:08PM -0700, walt wrote > But my real reason for replying is to ask you why you're interested > in OS/2. I thought IBM lost interest in it ages ago. Am I wrong? I have Galactic Civilizations V2.5, an OS/2-only game, on a 400 mhz PII running Warp 4. I still love it after all these years. That machine has lasted a lot longer than it should've, and it's damn loud. Virtualize that, and I'll be one happy camper. -- Walter Dnes
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:04:59PM -0700, walt wrote > When companies that rich and powerful push web-only services as the > answer to their revenue prayers, I suspect they may be able to win. The answer to that is Gnumeric/Abiword, unless MS/Google get them outlawed. OpenOffice (Bleagh) and KOffice (Bleagh) are bloated, but some people still use them. > If the trend continues, only port 80 will be in use in a few years. > Will the black hat hackers be unhappy about that? Dunno, but I'd > guess not. Hackers will be very happy and clients will be very vulnerable... du, nice profitable company youse got there Mr. CEO. It would be a shame if something terrible should happen to your cashflow, like your internet connection was killed by a backhoe, or a DDOS attack. Now, for only a few thousand dollars per month in protection, wese can see to it that nothing terrible happens to your beautiful cashflow. -- Walter Dnes
[gentoo-user] Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
I need to install the google-api-adwords-perl library, and it requires that SOAP-WSDL is patched with the soap_wsdl_patches.pl perl script. Can I have SOAP-WSDL patched via the perl script in an ebuild? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:09 +1000, Beau Henderson wrote: > On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote: [...] > > You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command: > > > > gcc -Q --help=target -march=native > > > > (thanks to Daniel Iliev for the tip) > > > > Perhaps I'm missing something but running the above gives me the impression > that -march=native > actually only configures the bare minimal install. I'm not seeing -mmmx or > -msse3 enabled on my > k8-sse3 for instance ( amongst much else ). > -march sometimes implies a some things. E.g., anything above a pentium2 implies MMX. My hunch is that k8-sse3 implies... sse3.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: VM experiences and faqs?
> > Anyone know if kvm has a similar gui for managing virtual > machines? > app-emulation/virt-manager
[gentoo-user] Re: VM experiences and faqs?
On 06/27/2010 11:19 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > ... I want to try hosting 32-bit Gentoo and also OS/2 Warp 4... I've found VirtualBox to be a bit faster than kvm only because of their highly optimized graphics driver. The vbox gui is also nice, but requires qt4 (a pain for us gnome users). Anyone know if kvm has a similar gui for managing virtual machines? But my real reason for replying is to ask you why you're interested in OS/2. I thought IBM lost interest in it ages ago. Am I wrong?
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote: 2010/6/29 Hasan SAHIN: Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command: gcc -Q --help=target -march=native (thanks to Daniel Iliev for the tip) Perhaps I'm missing something but running the above gives me the impression that -march=native actually only configures the bare minimal install. I'm not seeing -mmmx or -msse3 enabled on my k8-sse3 for instance ( amongst much else ).
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE? Get me out of here!
On 06/29/2010 07:23 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: I have: CFLAGS="-march=k8-sse3 Hm. I've never seen that flag before. My k8 supports only sse2. AFAIK -fomit-frame-pointer should be perfectly safe, at the only cost of making debugging harder. I already thought about removing it anyway, so my bug reports will make more sense. BTW, does anyone know _how_ _much_ this flag is suposed to seed things up, is it even noticeable? I've never been able to see any difference, so I don't use omit-fp. But, the main cpu-intensive app I use is gcc, and I admit I've never actually measured the difference. Uh, I just hate web clients. That's what I have a desktop environment for, I agree completely, but the Software-As-A-Service paradigm is getting a lot of attention from M$ *and* google as a more profitable alternative to selling shrink-wrapped software like M$-Office. (M$ ran out of good ideas to persuade people to buy new versions of Office many years ago, IMHO.) When companies that rich and powerful push web-only services as the answer to their revenue prayers, I suspect they may be able to win. I hate web-mail, and I always use pop3 or imap when I can, but I can't force my employer to offer those services if they've decided that running a web- mail server is cheaper. I've tried many times, but I'm losing the battle. If the trend continues, only port 80 will be in use in a few years. Will the black hat hackers be unhappy about that? Dunno, but I'd guess not.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:16:44 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > I did not want to use Chromium, but I tried it, and I must admit, it's > fast, and it uses much less memory than konqueror. And it even has web > shortcuts, which are a must-have for me now. What I'm missing most now > is mouse gestures. I don't use them myself but there are extensions to implement gestures. I don't know how well they work. -- Neil Bothwick Q. How many radical feminists does it take to change a light bulb? A. Two - one to change the bulb and one to write a book about the passive role of the socket. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> He has this uncanny ability of almost
> always being correct on technical toolchain matters
I disagree with the uncanny part. This is flameeyes we are talking
about. It's like saying "Joerg Schilling has this uncanny ability
of almost always being correct on technical CD{ROM,R,RW} DVD", or
"Dale has this uncanny ability of almost always jumping into a HAL
bashing thread"...
:-)
Thanks for the link as always.
W
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Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:49:38PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > What, you mean after going blank? Not that I would have noticed. If you > mean after the xserver crash, see three sentences below ;) Oh, my bad. So I assumed that you also checked the kernel logs then. Are you sure there's no kernel trouble _very early_ in the boot process? I don't know about the Dell model you have, is it a laptop? Some motherboard BIOS/ACPI are known to have a bug where they mis-report the lid status of the laptop, and so on boot the computer "thinks" the lid is closed and turns off the screen. Though the kernel would usually complain about not finding an active screen attached to the video card or something like that. > > >> > >> 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and > >> restarted by XDM every few minutes. dmesg and Xorg.0.log haven't shown > >> anything suspicious. Is this with a window manager or is this also with the vaniila TWM + xterm? I mean, if something crashes, somebody somewhere ought of have a log, right? Best of luck, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Re: X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability
On 06/28/2010 09:47 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and restarted by XDM every few minutes... I stopped using display managers years ago, mostly because they make life so difficult when X is being flakey. My advice is to avoid xdm and use startx until you figure out what's causing the crashes. This makes the logs easier to figure out.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 01:16:44 Alex Schuster wrote: > > Alex, have you tried turning off the Nepomuke service? I see in one of > > your screenshots that you are having problems with it (segfaults). > > No. The screenshot was taken shortly after logging in, the log shows the > Strigi crashes. So I turned off Strigi, but kept Nepomuk. Correct. Half of KDE4 stops working without nepomuk. Like akonadi - no akonadi = no useable kontact nepomukis very light on resources, strigi is the hog. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Mick writes: > On Tuesday 29 June 2010 15:38:05 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I used to be a big Konqueror fan until about six months ago. Then I > > tried Chromium and was blown away by its speed and the way it works > > on more sites. I do miss some of the integration of Konqueror and > > its kio-slaves and still use it for non-web duties. When the > > inevitable feature creep hits Chromium and it slows down, can see > > myself going back to Konqueror. I did not want to use Chromium, but I tried it, and I must admit, it's fast, and it uses much less memory than konqueror. And it even has web shortcuts, which are a must-have for me now. What I'm missing most now is mouse gestures. > I tried Chromium six months ago and it was not crashing, but couldn't > really tell the difference in speed from Opera for most sites. In > terms of performance it is Opera, FF, Konqueror here, with Konqueror > not managing some Javascripts at all. Opera, this might also be an idea. I never used it much, only in some cases when Konqueror had problems with web pags. > Alex, have you tried turning off the Nepomuke service? I see in one of > your screenshots that you are having problems with it (segfaults). No. The screenshot was taken shortly after logging in, the log shows the Strigi crashes. So I turned off Strigi, but kept Nepomuk. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
On 06/29/2010 06:08 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: > I have read the safe flags document and it says that : > > /GCC 4.2 introduces a new -march option, -march=*native*, which > automatically detects the features your CPU supports and sets the > options appropriately. If you have an Intel or AMD CPU and are using >>=sys-devel/gcc-4.2.3, using -march=native is recommended. Do *not* use > -march=native if you use distcc on nodes with different architectures as > this may produce unusable code. / > > which I understood, I can use the -march=native option instead of > > CFLAGS="-march=k8-msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" > > is it true? Yes, -march=native is a good, simple way to optimize your compiles. Here's what you should use on your Athlon64 X2, then: CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Dale wrote: I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, portage is not the only package manager being used. That's an important point. Personally I think portage should be the official package manager and if you chose to use something else, you should know what not to do to the system. Unofficially I think it is! ;-) Going by a few folks on -dev, I sometimes wonder if portage even exists. Sort of making a mountain out of a mole hill there. Portage requires python but I think one of the other package managers uses C or something. Remove C on my rig, no big deal as far as being able to boot and re-emerge a package. Careful. Can you really emerge gcc without at least one version of gcc on the system? I didn't think so unless you've got access to a binary somewhere, such as the install tarball or something like that. Even that could be a problem. I did some cleanup a few years ago that removed an old version of gcc and found I couldn't build anything anymore. Embarrassing! Most likely not but you can't emerge anything without python either. Yet some have emerge -C python a few times. I read where one even removed portage. I'm not sure how a person can think portage will work if you remove it. o_O Do it on a system with some other package manager and you are in a mess. Point being, it's sort of hard for them to list them since it depends on what package manager you are using. True, and a more experienced user can use equery, among other tools, to determine what dependencies a package has. Problem was my previous answer didn't mention that. Ahhh, but equery isn't always right either. That has been shown on this list before. It's a good tool but I wouldn't want to put my life in its hands. There are some packages I installed and still don't know much about. lol Sort of funny in a way. Most of them "just work" so we don't need to know much about them. Actually, for me it's _most_ packages I know NOTHING about. This machine has XFCE, Gnome and KDE. It has only 38 packages in the world file and yet emerge -e @world would build 970 packages. That's a LOT of unknown stuff for a user type like me to know anything about! (Or honestly, I probably know _NOTHING_ at all about at least 900 of those packages...) Cheers, Mark I got more in my world file but you have more packages. Sort of odd in a way. Packages installed: 945 Packages in world:76 Packages in system: 50 Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 15:38:05 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:23:48 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > > I tried chromium once, about half a year ago, but it crashed instantly. > > Emerging it again. But I like Konqueror very much. It has problems with > > some web sites, for those I use Firefox. I am missing some of Firefox' > > plugins, and it works much better with the new flash, but over all I > > like Konqueror's behaviour better. > > I used to be a big Konqueror fan until about six months ago. Then I > tried Chromium and was blown away by its speed and the way it works on > more sites. I do miss some of the integration of Konqueror and its > kio-slaves and still use it for non-web duties. When the inevitable > feature creep hits Chromium and it slows down, can see myself going back > to Konqueror. I tried Chromium six months ago and it was not crashing, but couldn't really tell the difference in speed from Opera for most sites. In terms of performance it is Opera, FF, Konqueror here, with Konqueror not managing some Javascripts at all. Alex, have you tried turning off the Nepomuke service? I see in one of your screenshots that you are having problems with it (segfaults). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?
Am 30.06.2010 00:22, schrieb waltd...@waltdnes.org: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:56:45PM +0700, Robin Atwood wrote > >> I installed OS/2 Warp 4 with KVM and it "just worked" (TM)! It is also >> incredibly fast (on a Core2 Duo). > > Thanks for that report. I'll try it out. KVM is nice. Just before I recompiled the kernel on a dedicated server I will very likely never see then emerged the packages and booted the first vm, controlling it via ssh and libvirt ... nice, it is ... S
Re: [gentoo-user] VM experiences and faqs?
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:56:45PM +0700, Robin Atwood wrote > I installed OS/2 Warp 4 with KVM and it "just worked" (TM)! It is also > incredibly fast (on a Core2 Duo). Thanks for that report. I'll try it out. -- Walter Dnes
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
29-06-2010 22:03, Bill Longman yazmış: On 06/29/2010 05:54 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? Sorry, Hasan, I dropped my "3"s. -msse3 and -march=k8-sse3 Hi Bill, I have read the safe flags document and it says that : /GCC 4.2 introduces a new -march option, -march=*native*, which automatically detects the features your CPU supports and sets the options appropriately. If you have an Intel or AMD CPU and are using >=sys-devel/gcc-4.2.3, using -march=native is recommended. Do *not* use -march=native if you use distcc on nodes with different architectures as this may produce unusable code. / which I understood, I can use the -march=native option instead of CFLAGS="-march=k8-msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" is it true? Regards, Hasan.
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
2010/6/29 Hasan SAHIN : > Hello all, > > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command: gcc -Q --help=target -march=native (thanks to Daniel Iliev for the tip)
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
On 06/29/2010 05:54 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: > Hello all, > > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? Sorry, Hasan, I dropped my "3"s. -msse3 and -march=k8-sse3
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
Hasan SAHIN writes: > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? Sure, as long as you are not using distcc, in which case the distcc servers would compile according to _their_ native option. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
On 06/29/2010 05:54 PM, Hasan SAHIN wrote: > Hello all, > > I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the > CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. > > Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? > > P.S. : I am using x86 stable box. Depends more on the version of gcc you're using. And you can also add -msse on the X2. Supposedly there's a -march=k8-sse but in my experience it was not good. Others may have different experience.
[gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4
Seems like the horrendous screw-up that was the libpng-1.4 update never got fixed properly and is hitting stable users now. Flameeyes, in his usual in-your-face style, has documented what needs to be done: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update If you are a stable user, save yourself a lot of trouble over the next few days, read his blog and do what he says. He has this uncanny ability of almost always being correct on technical toolchain matters -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] -march=native
Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? P.S. : I am using x86 stable box. Regards, Hasan.
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:23:11PM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote: > > > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized > > web browser with a page with pictures and text. > > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and > > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it > > takes a moment. > > Is there disk activity when this happens? > > Wonko > Well, I guess not. But I will examine it. The system doesn't use swap, I don't use memory consuming applications.
Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability
Am 29.06.2010 13:48, schrieb Willie Wong: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:47:42PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: >> 1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is >> started. While I know my system long enough to recognize common boot >> errors by watching the disk and peripheral device activity, I wouldn't >> like to make a filesystem recovery blindfolded ;) > > Any dmesg output? > What, you mean after going blank? Not that I would have noticed. If you mean after the xserver crash, see three sentences below ;) >> >> 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and >> restarted by XDM every few minutes. dmesg and Xorg.0.log haven't shown >> anything suspicious. >> >> In the end that means that I'm currently stuck with xorg-server-1.7 and >> no modesetting. >> > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 20:08:34 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, > > portage is not the only package manager being used. Personally I think > > portage should be the official package manager and if you chose to use > > something else, you should know what not to do to the system. > > That's restrictive and un-Gentoo-like. The official package manager is > anything that follows the EAPI specs. I wholeheartedly agree. There shouldn't even BE such a thing as a standard package manager, there should only be standards. Otherwise you get into the standard being "whatever portage is doing today" - a moving target at best -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:40:56 -0500, Dale wrote: > I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, > portage is not the only package manager being used. Personally I think > portage should be the official package manager and if you chose to use > something else, you should know what not to do to the system. That's restrictive and un-Gentoo-like. The official package manager is anything that follows the EAPI specs. > Portage > requires python but I think one of the other package managers uses C or > something. Remove C on my rig, no big deal as far as being able to > boot and re-emerge a package. Do it on a system with some other > package manager and you are in a mess. Point being, it's sort of hard > for them to list them since it depends on what package manager you are > using. That's a slightly different issue. No, portage isn't in @system directly, but it is part of a list of package managers, one of which must be installed, and Python is a dependency of that, so a warning would be reasonable if you were using portage to do the unmerging. However, emerge -C does warn against its use these days, and you shouldn't really use it on anything that is not in @world. -- Neil Bothwick TEXAS VIRUS: Makes sure that it's bigger than any other file. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Dale wrote: > I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, portage is > not the only package manager being used. That's an important point. > Personally I think portage should > be the official package manager and if you chose to use something else, you > should know what not to do to the system. Unofficially I think it is! ;-) > Portage requires python but I > think one of the other package managers uses C or something. Remove C on my > rig, no big deal as far as being able to boot and re-emerge a package. Careful. Can you really emerge gcc without at least one version of gcc on the system? I didn't think so unless you've got access to a binary somewhere, such as the install tarball or something like that. Even that could be a problem. I did some cleanup a few years ago that removed an old version of gcc and found I couldn't build anything anymore. Embarrassing! > Do > it on a system with some other package manager and you are in a mess. Point > being, it's sort of hard for them to list them since it depends on what > package manager you are using. > True, and a more experienced user can use equery, among other tools, to determine what dependencies a package has. Problem was my previous answer didn't mention that. > There are some packages I installed and still don't know much about. lol > Sort of funny in a way. Most of them "just work" so we don't need to know > much about them. Actually, for me it's _most_ packages I know NOTHING about. This machine has XFCE, Gnome and KDE. It has only 38 packages in the world file and yet emerge -e @world would build 970 packages. That's a LOT of unknown stuff for a user type like me to know anything about! (Or honestly, I probably know _NOTHING_ at all about at least 900 of those packages...) Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM,wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc ??? emerge -DuN application ??? What am I missing in the question? Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. You will not hurt your system doing that command. - Mark I wanted to follow up on my somewhat cavalier comment a couple of days ago about doing emerge -C on a dependency. It was a bad comment for me to make without adding some discussion around it. This can actually harm your system if you emerge -C the wrong dependency. For instance, emerge -C gcc or python is likely a bad thing to do as you will be unable to build anything to get the system fixed again. However emerge -C jack-audio-connection-kit as a dependency for something like Ardour wouldn't harm the system but would demonstrate what I was talking about. Any new user reading this thread at some future date should ensure that (at a minimum) if they emerge -C anything at all that at least it's not part of @system. emerge should warn of this but it's best to do a little study before pushing the enter key. Cheers, Mark It is good that you explained that more. I thought about the same thing but thought maybe I was missing something that was mentioned earlier in another message. I wouldn't always count on portage warning before removing a system package tho. I tested this by trying to remove python and portage said nothing it doesn't say on any other package even one in the world file. Future users may want to ask first either here or on the forums before removing something that may be questionable. It may not be a bad idea for a thread with packages that should never be removed. Things such as gcc, python, baselayout etc. Maybe a user would find that and at least have a general guide. I also think it would be a good idea to have the same on the forums as a "sticky" thread that the mods can edit from time to time. Dale Dale, The last thing I want to do is cause anyone any trouble. From that point it's easier to just stay quiet all the time and let others more experienced than myself answer all the questions. However I don't really want to act that way - taking and never giving. I like your idea about lists of packages that should never be removed. Personally I think a doc doc page somewhere in the install/maintenance doc group would be good but it would need to be well maintained. Understanding the absolute minimum number of things that are required to use emerge and get a package built would be a good doc, if it doesn't exist somewhere already. Personally I'm never 100% sure about anything that's not an application package I installed myself and is sitting in the world file. I suspect others - possibly you included - have similar fears at times. Cheers, Mark I know there are times when I don't say anything because I am unsure about the answer. If I do say something, I usually say I'm not sure or something to that effect. Like you, I never want to make matters worse than they already are for someone. I wouldn't want someone to do me that way either. I mentioned this on -dev once when this topic came up. Thing is, portage is not the only package manager being used. Personally I think portage should be the official package manager and if you chose to use something else, you should know what not to do to the system. Portage requires python but I think one of the other package managers uses C or something. Remove C on my rig, no big deal as far as being able to boot and re-emerge a package. Do it on a system with some other package manager and you are in a mess. Point being, it's sort of hard for them to list them since it depends on what package manager you are using. There are some packages I installed and still don't know much about. lol Sort of funny in a way. Most of them "just work" so we don't need to know much about them. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:30:03 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!: [snip] >I have: >CFLAGS="-march=k8-sse3 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" > >AFAIK -fomit-frame-pointer should be perfectly safe, at the only cost >of making debugging harder. For AMD K8 processors (i.e. amd64), the -fomit-frame-pointer option is silently ignored by GCC. It has no meaning on the newer hardware platforms. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, wrote: >>> Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc >>> >>> ??? >>> >>> emerge -DuN application >>> >>> ??? >>> >>> What am I missing in the question? >>> >>> Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge >>> nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should >>> pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. >>> >>> You will not hurt your system doing that command. >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> >> >> I wanted to follow up on my somewhat cavalier comment a couple of days >> ago about doing emerge -C on a dependency. It was a bad comment for me >> to make without adding some discussion around it. This can actually >> harm your system if you emerge -C the wrong dependency. For instance, >> emerge -C gcc or python is likely a bad thing to do as you will be >> unable to build anything to get the system fixed again. However emerge >> -C jack-audio-connection-kit as a dependency for something like Ardour >> wouldn't harm the system but would demonstrate what I was talking >> about. >> >> Any new user reading this thread at some future date should ensure >> that (at a minimum) if they emerge -C anything at all that at least >> it's not part of @system. emerge should warn of this but it's best to >> do a little study before pushing the enter key. >> >> Cheers, >> Mark >> >> > > It is good that you explained that more. I thought about the same thing but > thought maybe I was missing something that was mentioned earlier in another > message. > > I wouldn't always count on portage warning before removing a system package > tho. I tested this by trying to remove python and portage said nothing it > doesn't say on any other package even one in the world file. Future users > may want to ask first either here or on the forums before removing something > that may be questionable. > > It may not be a bad idea for a thread with packages that should never be > removed. Things such as gcc, python, baselayout etc. Maybe a user would > find that and at least have a general guide. I also think it would be a > good idea to have the same on the forums as a "sticky" thread that the mods > can edit from time to time. > > Dale Dale, The last thing I want to do is cause anyone any trouble. From that point it's easier to just stay quiet all the time and let others more experienced than myself answer all the questions. However I don't really want to act that way - taking and never giving. I like your idea about lists of packages that should never be removed. Personally I think a doc doc page somewhere in the install/maintenance doc group would be good but it would need to be well maintained. Understanding the absolute minimum number of things that are required to use emerge and get a package built would be a good doc, if it doesn't exist somewhere already. Personally I'm never 100% sure about anything that's not an application package I installed myself and is sitting in the world file. I suspect others - possibly you included - have similar fears at times. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
First of all - try to configure X-es by hald. If this don't work on Your arch, try revert to xorg.conf. I have Intel GMA965 card and it work's ideal. If You say about web clients, that You hate them - it's yours right. I like it, because of 396 firm contacts on my contact book connected to them files, tasks and events in calendar, notes, divided between couple groups. I like it because of linking things together and it's safer when You travel with Your laptop (server is mine so I decide when upgrade and configure app). I've integrated it remote with blackberry ;) so it's nice tool together. Chromium is very stable now. Half year ago there was a difference with exploding cards and flash. Now it works great. As You say about FTP's and Delphin - set Your default file manager to Konqueror. I don't like delphin. In me is stagnation after KDE 3.x - if it work's so why provide something different again from scratch? That's all for now what I can say. If I find more time, I read Your whole mail and post some info about things I know. Greet's At Wtorek, 29-06-2010 on 16:23 Alex Schuster wrote: Mateusz Mierzwiński writes: > I have KDE4. It work's perfect. Whooo, now at least this sounds good! > Try set "Custom-cxxflags" to off, > maybe this will help. From my opinion KDE and QT 4 don't like > customized C/CXX Flags, such as fomit-frame-pointer and similar. I have: CFLAGS="-march=k8-sse3 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" AFAIK -fomit-frame-pointer should be perfectly safe, at the only cost of making debugging harder. I already thought about removing it anyway, so my bug reports will make more sense. BTW, does anyone know _how_ _much_ this flag is suposed to seed things up, is it even noticeable? And then I just loked at the Safe CFLAGS page [*], and it says: The flag -fomit-frame-pointer is enabled at -O1, -O2, -O3 and -Os on arches where it doesn't interfere with debugging, such as AMD64, but not x86. So if you're on x86 you should add it to your CFLAGS. About -mfpmath=sse: I think I enabled it after a discussion about what - march=native would do. Now the gcc documentation [2] says: For the i386 compiler, you need to use -march=cpu-type, -msse or -msse2 switches to enable SSE extensions and make this option effective. For the x86-64 compiler, these extensions are enabled by default. So I will turn off both -mfpmath=sse and -fomit-frame-pointer, but it would change nothing. > Try to set correct USE flags They should be okay I think... > and first of all - add DBUS to default runlevel if Your "Welcome" screen > don't work - it works for me. I once had this problem, but now DBUS is in the default runlevel. > You should also have Hald for X.org configuration. Do you mean I should configure X via the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ that will be obsolete soon? I have the hal USE flag set, but X is configured by xorg.conf only. > BTW. I don't use any desktop mail client - I've chosen GroupOffice > for web client with IMAP support and great tool for my work - safer > because of laptop disk crashes or similar - data is stored external > and it's delivered by OpenVPN with certificate nad data encryption. Uh, I just hate web clients. That's what I have a desktop environment for, with consistent looking applications, shortcuts, drag&drop and what else. I am using kmail with IMAP over SSL. > Chromium as major web browser, I tried chromium once, about half a year ago, but it crashed instantly. Emerging it again. But I like Konqueror very much. It has problems with some web sites, for those I use Firefox. I am missing some of Firefox' plugins, and it works much better with the new flash, but over all I like Konqueror's behaviour better. Maybe I could change Firefox behaviour in the advanced settings, I did not look into this yet. And from time to time Friefox also gives me trouble, and I have to remove my profile directory to make it start again. Chromium is built, and seems to work. Oh, it's fast. And uses few memory. And even has web shortcuts, that's great. And flash just works, while konquerro has major problems with it. > Subversion integrated with KDE, Wicd > as network configuration daemon. Also Kadu as IM, wine + winamp, > OpenOffice. Not installed Compiz for now, but I have it on my plans. Here: CVS via command line, static network configuration, kopete, Amarok (which I find beautiful), occasionally OpenOffice. > Login screen works great, loading is realy fast. Only one problem > with Bluetooth but i think it's device fault - device USB connector > broken. Everyday working with dual-head 2 monitors - KDE 4 detects > when I connect another monitor, soundcard and Xine integration into > phonon works with no glitches. Other tools like SSH/SFTP integrated > into konqueror works great - konqueror itself also perfect! Ah, so you DO like konqueror! Great. > It's good, it's fast, it's intuitive, it's "better desktop software", > it's XXI century desktop environme
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, wrote: Hi, is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain application without emerging the application itself? And: Will I hurt the system that way? Best regards, mcc ??? emerge -DuN application ??? What am I missing in the question? Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. You will not hurt your system doing that command. - Mark I wanted to follow up on my somewhat cavalier comment a couple of days ago about doing emerge -C on a dependency. It was a bad comment for me to make without adding some discussion around it. This can actually harm your system if you emerge -C the wrong dependency. For instance, emerge -C gcc or python is likely a bad thing to do as you will be unable to build anything to get the system fixed again. However emerge -C jack-audio-connection-kit as a dependency for something like Ardour wouldn't harm the system but would demonstrate what I was talking about. Any new user reading this thread at some future date should ensure that (at a minimum) if they emerge -C anything at all that at least it's not part of @system. emerge should warn of this but it's best to do a little study before pushing the enter key. Cheers, Mark It is good that you explained that more. I thought about the same thing but thought maybe I was missing something that was mentioned earlier in another message. I wouldn't always count on portage warning before removing a system package tho. I tested this by trying to remove python and portage said nothing it doesn't say on any other package even one in the world file. Future users may want to ask first either here or on the forums before removing something that may be questionable. It may not be a bad idea for a thread with packages that should never be removed. Things such as gcc, python, baselayout etc. Maybe a user would find that and at least have a general guide. I also think it would be a good idea to have the same on the forums as a "sticky" thread that the mods can edit from time to time. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge all but...
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM, wrote: >> Hi, >> >> is it possible to emerge all missing dependencies of a certain >> application without emerging the application itself? And: Will >> I hurt the system that way? >> >> Best regards, >> mcc > > ??? > > emerge -DuN application > > ??? > > What am I missing in the question? > > Test it on a clean app with no dependencies missing. It should emerge > nothing. Then emerge -C one dependency and try it again. It should > pick up that dependency but not emerge the app itself. > > You will not hurt your system doing that command. > > - Mark > I wanted to follow up on my somewhat cavalier comment a couple of days ago about doing emerge -C on a dependency. It was a bad comment for me to make without adding some discussion around it. This can actually harm your system if you emerge -C the wrong dependency. For instance, emerge -C gcc or python is likely a bad thing to do as you will be unable to build anything to get the system fixed again. However emerge -C jack-audio-connection-kit as a dependency for something like Ardour wouldn't harm the system but would demonstrate what I was talking about. Any new user reading this thread at some future date should ensure that (at a minimum) if they emerge -C anything at all that at least it's not part of @system. emerge should warn of this but it's best to do a little study before pushing the enter key. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:23:48 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > I tried chromium once, about half a year ago, but it crashed instantly. > Emerging it again. But I like Konqueror very much. It has problems with > some web sites, for those I use Firefox. I am missing some of Firefox' > plugins, and it works much better with the new flash, but over all I > like Konqueror's behaviour better. I used to be a big Konqueror fan until about six months ago. Then I tried Chromium and was blown away by its speed and the way it works on more sites. I do miss some of the integration of Konqueror and its kio-slaves and still use it for non-web duties. When the inevitable feature creep hits Chromium and it slows down, can see myself going back to Konqueror. -- Neil Bothwick If you don't pay your exorcist, you get repossessed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Mateusz Mierzwiński writes: > I have KDE4. It work's perfect. Whooo, now at least this sounds good! > Try set "Custom-cxxflags" to off, > maybe this will help. From my opinion KDE and QT 4 don't like > customized C/CXX Flags, such as fomit-frame-pointer and similar. I have: CFLAGS="-march=k8-sse3 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" AFAIK -fomit-frame-pointer should be perfectly safe, at the only cost of making debugging harder. I already thought about removing it anyway, so my bug reports will make more sense. BTW, does anyone know _how_ _much_ this flag is suposed to seed things up, is it even noticeable? And then I just loked at the Safe CFLAGS page [*], and it says: The flag -fomit-frame-pointer is enabled at -O1, -O2, -O3 and -Os on arches where it doesn't interfere with debugging, such as AMD64, but not x86. So if you're on x86 you should add it to your CFLAGS. About -mfpmath=sse: I think I enabled it after a discussion about what - march=native would do. Now the gcc documentation [2] says: For the i386 compiler, you need to use -march=cpu-type, -msse or -msse2 switches to enable SSE extensions and make this option effective. For the x86-64 compiler, these extensions are enabled by default. So I will turn off both -mfpmath=sse and -fomit-frame-pointer, but it would change nothing. > Try to set correct USE flags They should be okay I think... > and first of all - add DBUS to default runlevel if Your "Welcome" screen > don't work - it works for me. I once had this problem, but now DBUS is in the default runlevel. > You should also have Hald for X.org configuration. Do you mean I should configure X via the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ that will be obsolete soon? I have the hal USE flag set, but X is configured by xorg.conf only. > BTW. I don't use any desktop mail client - I've chosen GroupOffice > for web client with IMAP support and great tool for my work - safer > because of laptop disk crashes or similar - data is stored external > and it's delivered by OpenVPN with certificate nad data encryption. Uh, I just hate web clients. That's what I have a desktop environment for, with consistent looking applications, shortcuts, drag&drop and what else. I am using kmail with IMAP over SSL. > Chromium as major web browser, I tried chromium once, about half a year ago, but it crashed instantly. Emerging it again. But I like Konqueror very much. It has problems with some web sites, for those I use Firefox. I am missing some of Firefox' plugins, and it works much better with the new flash, but over all I like Konqueror's behaviour better. Maybe I could change Firefox behaviour in the advanced settings, I did not look into this yet. And from time to time Friefox also gives me trouble, and I have to remove my profile directory to make it start again. Chromium is built, and seems to work. Oh, it's fast. And uses few memory. And even has web shortcuts, that's great. And flash just works, while konquerro has major problems with it. > Subversion integrated with KDE, Wicd > as network configuration daemon. Also Kadu as IM, wine + winamp, > OpenOffice. Not installed Compiz for now, but I have it on my plans. Here: CVS via command line, static network configuration, kopete, Amarok (which I find beautiful), occasionally OpenOffice. > Login screen works great, loading is realy fast. Only one problem > with Bluetooth but i think it's device fault - device USB connector > broken. Everyday working with dual-head 2 monitors - KDE 4 detects > when I connect another monitor, soundcard and Xine integration into > phonon works with no glitches. Other tools like SSH/SFTP integrated > into konqueror works great - konqueror itself also perfect! Ah, so you DO like konqueror! Great. > It's good, it's fast, it's intuitive, it's "better desktop software", > it's XXI century desktop environment, not such as Gnome and funny > "icons trashroom" on desktop. I mostly agree. If only there weren't all those little bugs. It still looks quite unfinished to me. Ican somehow live with these bugs, but I am not sure if I should recommend KDE4 for others. At my institute we are also using KDE4 now, which makes some things convenient. But it is bad to have nice dolphin shortcuts to FTP locations, and dolphin cannot read remote files when they contain umlauts. And you you need to have another way of getting them. For the users, it might be easier to learn this second, reliable method only, instead of also learning to use the more convenient one which sometimes does not work. > Why KDE? Because i like it. Don't say that this software SUCKS, > _check_Your_config_. If You have problem try to remove .kde or .kde4 > folder in Your home directory and recreate profile. I just did this some days ago and re-created most things from scratch, except for kmail. That was a lot of work BTW, I spent a couple of hours doing that. Some things are fixed indeed, but most problems persist. BTW, I had ma
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote: > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized > web browser with a page with pictures and text. > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it > takes a moment. Is there disk activity when this happens? Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] What is wrong with lame?
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Mateusz Mierzwiński > wrote: >> Hi, >> I wish to ask if anyone also have same feeling that Winamp running on Wine >> (ALSA output) have better sound quality than players like VLC, XMMS, Amarok >> and even songbird just as many others? >> What's wrong with decoding of audio if I have such feeling running now >> Winamp? >> Thanks, >> Mateusz M. > > Everything sounds normal on my system... can you describe the sound > difference at all? Maybe winamp is doing some kind of equalizing which > changes the sound. Also, check your mixer levels, if they are set to 100% try to make it lower. I used to have a computer that would sound horrible if the levels were much more than 50%.
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:42:49PM -0400, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:26:13PM +0200, mailinglist...@gmail.com wrote > > > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a > > page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the > > page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment. > > Is this for all X apps, or just Firefox. If it's just text-rendering, > try compiling Firefox with "moznopango" flag , either in /etc/make.conf > or /etc/package.use. Note that this may disable non-English fonts. > > > I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD > > and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server. > > Is that 512MB the video card or your system ram? If it's 512MB system > ram, that's probably your problem right there. Firefox will strain your > system just by itself. Firefox is getting too bloated for its own good. > SQL database and spell-check built in... what was the old joke about > Mozilla 0.9... about:kitchen sink. Firefox is a mediocre operating > system that lacks a lightweight web-browser. > > -- > Walter Dnes > :) I don't use firefox. 512MB is my system RAM, but I'm sure it's not the problem. I have this problem with different applications, even with epdfview. I'm using webkit-gtk based browsers (midori, surf, uzbl). The only app. which is drawn back instantly is xterm:) So, it must be some configuration or build issue, because of ubuntu livecd (it is working fast). I guess if it's working fine from cd, it should work as well from hard drive. Thanks, bendeguz
Re: [gentoo-user] What is wrong with lame?
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Mateusz Mierzwiński wrote: > Hi, > I wish to ask if anyone also have same feeling that Winamp running on Wine > (ALSA output) have better sound quality than players like VLC, XMMS, Amarok > and even songbird just as many others? > What's wrong with decoding of audio if I have such feeling running now > Winamp? > Thanks, > Mateusz M. Everything sounds normal on my system... can you describe the sound difference at all? Maybe winamp is doing some kind of equalizing which changes the sound.
Re: [gentoo-user] slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:26 PM, wrote: > hi all! > > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized > web browser with a page with pictures and text. > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it > takes a moment. > I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much > faster, I didn't recognize any problem. > dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so > I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's > some kind of kernel or USE flag problem. > Any of you experienced similap problem? > > Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or > pastebin? > > I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD > and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server. Maybe try to set "AccelMethod" "EXA" in your xorg.conf (radeon section) and then restart X
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay
ok, I got it after add a file "repo_name" to /var/lib/layman/myown, the warning message disappeared thanks very much 2010/6/29 Chen Huan > thanks > > previously jabberd2 is being merged from my own overlay too > > in /var/lib/layman/myown, I just make the directory net-im/jabberd2/, there > is no other things in /var/lib/layman/myown > > Should I add some other things to the directory of my own overlay?? > > > > Did you previously rename your repo or pass PORTDIR_OVERLAY from the > command line (which can sometimes confuse portage). > === > No, i didn't do anything like that > > 2010/6/29 Albert Hopkins > > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 19:51 +0800, Chen Huan wrote: >> > I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To >> > avoid >> > the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I make >> > /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild >> > >> > when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I try to re-merge it, >> > the >> > output is : >> > >> > Calculating dependencies... done! >> > [ebuild R ] net-im/jabberd2-2.2.8 USE="berkdb ldap mysql pam ssl >> > zlib >> > -debug -memdebug -postgres -sqlite" 0 kB [?=>1] >> > >> > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB >> > Portage tree and overlays: >> > [0] /usr/portage >> > [1] /var/lib/layman/myown >> > [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined >> >> It's saying jabberd is being rebuilt, and orginally it was build from a >> repo that is ownknown, and now it will be built >> from /usr/lib/layman/myown. >> >> Did you previously rename your repo or pass PORTDIR_OVERLAY from the >> command line (which can sometimes confuse portage). >> >> >> >> >
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay
thanks previously jabberd2 is being merged from my own overlay too in /var/lib/layman/myown, I just make the directory net-im/jabberd2/, there is no other things in /var/lib/layman/myown Should I add some other things to the directory of my own overlay?? Did you previously rename your repo or pass PORTDIR_OVERLAY from the command line (which can sometimes confuse portage). === No, i didn't do anything like that 2010/6/29 Albert Hopkins > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 19:51 +0800, Chen Huan wrote: > > I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To > > avoid > > the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I make > > /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild > > > > when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I try to re-merge it, > > the > > output is : > > > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > [ebuild R ] net-im/jabberd2-2.2.8 USE="berkdb ldap mysql pam ssl > > zlib > > -debug -memdebug -postgres -sqlite" 0 kB [?=>1] > > > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB > > Portage tree and overlays: > > [0] /usr/portage > > [1] /var/lib/layman/myown > > [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined > > It's saying jabberd is being rebuilt, and orginally it was build from a > repo that is ownknown, and now it will be built > from /usr/lib/layman/myown. > > Did you previously rename your repo or pass PORTDIR_OVERLAY from the > command line (which can sometimes confuse portage). > > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 19:51 +0800, Chen Huan wrote: > I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To > avoid > the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I make > /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild > > when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I try to re-merge it, > the > output is : > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild R ] net-im/jabberd2-2.2.8 USE="berkdb ldap mysql pam ssl > zlib > -debug -memdebug -postgres -sqlite" 0 kB [?=>1] > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB > Portage tree and overlays: > [0] /usr/portage > [1] /var/lib/layman/myown > [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined It's saying jabberd is being rebuilt, and orginally it was build from a repo that is ownknown, and now it will be built from /usr/lib/layman/myown. Did you previously rename your repo or pass PORTDIR_OVERLAY from the command line (which can sometimes confuse portage).
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay
Chen Huan writes: > I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To > avoid the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I > make /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild > > when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I try to re-merge it, > the output is : > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild R ] net-im/jabberd2-2.2.8 USE="berkdb ldap mysql pam ssl > zlib -debug -memdebug -postgres -sqlite" 0 kB [?=>1] > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB > Portage tree and overlays: > [0] /usr/portage > [1] /var/lib/layman/myown > [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined > > > It says the jabberd2 's source repository could not be determined > > I know it is not a problem and can be ignored, but I want to know where > I should modify to fix it? The usual way would be to put it into the local overlay which is defined by the PORTDIR_OVERLAY setting in /etc/make.conf. In order to avoid another warning message, create a directory 'profile' there with a file 'repo_name' containing an arbitrary name, like 'my local portage tree'. Wonko
[gentoo-user] Problem about my own overlay
I had done some hack on jabberd2, and I make a new ebuild for it, To avoid the new ebuild being overwrite when I execute "emerge --sync", I make /var/lib/layman/myown for this ebuild when I emerged jabberd2, it's normal, but when I try to re-merge it, the output is : Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-im/jabberd2-2.2.8 USE="berkdb ldap mysql pam ssl zlib -debug -memdebug -postgres -sqlite" 0 kB [?=>1] Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB Portage tree and overlays: [0] /usr/portage [1] /var/lib/layman/myown [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined It says the jabberd2 's source repository could not be determined I know it is not a problem and can be ignored, but I want to know where I should modify to fix it? Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:47:42PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > 1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is > started. While I know my system long enough to recognize common boot > errors by watching the disk and peripheral device activity, I wouldn't > like to make a filesystem recovery blindfolded ;) Any dmesg output? > > 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and > restarted by XDM every few minutes. dmesg and Xorg.0.log haven't shown > anything suspicious. > > In the end that means that I'm currently stuck with xorg-server-1.7 and > no modesetting. > -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
