Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2010, at 00:06, Mick wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 11:21:08 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 11:49:00 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still use e2fsprogs to change those? Nope: eve ~ # reiserfstune --help reiserfstune: unrecognized option '--help' reiserfstune: Usage: reiserfstune [options] device [block-count] Options: -j | --journal-device filecurrent journal device --journal-new-device file new journal device -o | --journal-new-offset N new journal offset in blocks -s | --journal-new-size N new journal size in blocks -t | --trans-max-size N new journal max transaction size in blocks --no-journal-availablecurrent journal is not available --make-journal-standard new journal to be standard -b | --add-badblocks file add to bad block list -B | --badblocks file set the bad block list -u | --uuid UUID|random set new UUID -l | --label LABELset new label -f | --force force tuning, less confirmations -Vprint version and exit IOW (as example): reiserfstune -l ROOTDISK /dev/hda1 ... While on the topic of labels, is there a way to change the label of a reiser4 partition, *after* it has been created? I rebuilt two partitions and forgot to relabel them ... Isn't the answer to that in the stuff you quoted? Surely one can use reiserfstune without damaging the filesystem? That could be asking a lot for me. lol I would think it could be changed the same way it was set tho. reiserfstune -l LABEL I got a lot of ideas here. o_O Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Can't connect to new router
I just got a new TP-Link TL-WR1043ND wireless router but I can't seem connect to it. I've tried the Gentoo initscript as well as wicd. With the initscript, I get: wlan3: carrier lost wlan3: timed out I see a lot of this in dmesg: b43-phy0 ERROR: MAC suspend failed I can connect to other wireless routers just fine, and I can connect to this one via ethernet. I've tried configuring it in various ways, security is disabled, and I've tried specifying static IPs with no luck. Does anyone know what I could be doing wrong? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Nikos Chantziaras schrieb am 27.08.2010 18:06: > On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> >> Actually, you can: >> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.html >> >> (Read the section below "Use a label"): >> >> fstab: >> LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 >> LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 >> LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 >> LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 > > This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. > Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. > Afaik if you are using GRUB LEGACY (0.97) and want to use LABEL/UUID in your grub.conf/menu.lst you also need an initrd. I think with GRUB 2 (1.98) it is possible without. You don't need an initrd for LABEL/UUID in /etc/fstab for both cases. -- Daniel Pielmeier signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
Jason Carson jasoncarson.ca> writes: > Can you set overscan to 0% in the ATI Catalyst Control Center. Does that > make a difference? Dunno know. 'ATI catalyst Control Center' will not launch from KDE menu system(strange) Ideas on what to recompile? ati-drivers? emerge -1 `qlist -I -C x11-drivers` has already been ran several times today ??? Can I lauch it (syntax) from the command line? (as root?) James
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > You have nothing to fear from fiddling with clock settings on a flat panel. > The owrst you can do is to get no picture. Good to know. thx James
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
Daniel da Veiga gmail.com> writes: > Have you tried setting the INPUT NAME of the HDMI to "PC" using the > remote (on TV)? > My Samsung does the same, after I set my HDMI as "PC" everything is at > the right place. Can only do this on the PC selection which only works when a standard 15 pin VGA cable is used... James
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it > has "Just Scan" mode which could potentially show you the original > image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you > might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :) THANKS, never tried that button. It does not permanently set though... the default is 16:9 (which should work), 'wide fit', then 4:3, then 'just scan'. 'just scan' does the trick. It does not permanently set though... What's the link to the manual...? I never could find it. TIA, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 27 Aug 2010, at 17:06, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 17:57:01 Bill Longman wrote: On 08/27/2010 01:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Anyway, make sure you have a bootable Linux CD/DVD handy. That way, you won't be able to blow anything up and can boot from it in order to change your /etc/fstab and grub conf. Alternatively, give your partitions Labels and reconfigure /etc/ fstab to use those. Then you don't have to worry about the changes to the device-names. I second Joost's recommendation. I don't think you can use labels on the kernel command line, so your grub will have to know for sure which device to boot. Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.html (Read the section below "Use a label"): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. Because you need to use the `root=/dev/sdaX` format in GRUB? I think an appropriate initrd/initramfs is required - I'm not sure if there are any other requirements - to use labels in GRUB. I think it's common to do things this way on RedHat systems, maybe with some other distros - that's what fouled me up when I tried using labels in GRUB; I just found grub.conf examples using them, and was unaware of this requirement. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 28 Aug 2010, at 00:06, Mick wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 11:21:08 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 11:49:00 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still use e2fsprogs to change those? Nope: eve ~ # reiserfstune --help reiserfstune: unrecognized option '--help' reiserfstune: Usage: reiserfstune [options] device [block-count] Options: -j | --journal-device filecurrent journal device --journal-new-device file new journal device -o | --journal-new-offset N new journal offset in blocks -s | --journal-new-size N new journal size in blocks -t | --trans-max-size N new journal max transaction size in blocks --no-journal-availablecurrent journal is not available --make-journal-standard new journal to be standard -b | --add-badblocks file add to bad block list -B | --badblocks file set the bad block list -u | --uuid UUID|random set new UUID -l | --label LABELset new label -f | --force force tuning, less confirmations -Vprint version and exit IOW (as example): reiserfstune -l ROOTDISK /dev/hda1 ... While on the topic of labels, is there a way to change the label of a reiser4 partition, *after* it has been created? I rebuilt two partitions and forgot to relabel them ... Isn't the answer to that in the stuff you quoted? Surely one can use reiserfstune without damaging the filesystem?
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Configuration
On 27 Aug 2010, at 21:11, Aaron Bauman wrote: ... I would rather not use the ubuntu kernel as previously suggested unless it is completely safe. I am currently booting successfully off of Ubuntu running kernel version 2.6.32-21-generic. Why would it be unsafe? The Ubuntu kernel config from /proc/config.gz is a config optimised for desktop systems of your architecture by a bunch of clever guys working for Canonical. Whilst it may be possible to optimise the kernel very specifically for your hardware, I think you would notice more shortcomings of that than benefits, and it just seems a lengthy waste of time. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On Friday 27 August 2010 11:21:08 Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Friday 27 August 2010 11:49:00 Dale wrote: > >> J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> > >> Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still > >> use e2fsprogs to change those? > > > > Nope: > > eve ~ # reiserfstune --help > > reiserfstune: unrecognized option '--help' > > reiserfstune: Usage: reiserfstune [options] device [block-count] > > > > Options: > >-j | --journal-device filecurrent journal device > >--journal-new-device file new journal device > >-o | --journal-new-offset N new journal offset in blocks > >-s | --journal-new-size N new journal size in blocks > >-t | --trans-max-size N new journal max transaction size in > >blocks --no-journal-availablecurrent journal is not available > >--make-journal-standard new journal to be standard > >-b | --add-badblocks file add to bad block list > >-B | --badblocks file set the bad block list > >-u | --uuid UUID|random set new UUID > >-l | --label LABELset new label > >-f | --force force tuning, less confirmations > >-Vprint version and exit > > > > IOW (as example): > > reiserfstune -l ROOTDISK /dev/hda1 > > > >> Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA > >> drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them > >> and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is > >> there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? > > > > Afraid not. > > The naming scheme is, officially, not constant and can change with > > reboots. > > > > On my server, with hotswap, I get different device-names when I remove a > > disk and plug it back in. > > Eg. /dev/sdb -> /dev/sdj > > (as example) > > Don't think you'll have that particular issue, but having these names > > change between reboots is possible. Especially if a drive fails and is > > not found during boot or a new drive is added. > > > > Not tested, but I believe USB-drives might also get pushed into the mix? > > > > -- > > Joost > > I do know the USB stuff changes but I wasn't sure about the others. I > would think the main drives in a system would come first but one could > never make that promise. I'm giving serious thought to using the > labels. It would also mean that I don't have to remember what partition > is what. Currently I would mount and then list what is in the directory > to see what is in it and figure out what it is. With the labels > feature, even fdisk would tell me what is what. > > This would be a good time to move the OS to a new drive. If things work > out, run from the new drive. If things blow up, boot the old drive with > the old kernel, old fstab and other settings. While on the topic of labels, is there a way to change the label of a reiser4 partition, *after* it has been created? I rebuilt two partitions and forgot to relabel them ... -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Configuration
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:11 on Friday 27 August 2010, Aaron Bauman did opine thusly: > All, > I recently asked about some issues about getting my kernel to boot. I > would rather not use the ubuntu kernel as previously suggested unless it is > completely safe. I am currently booting successfully off of Ubuntu running > kernel version 2.6.32-21-generic. The errors I kept getting when booting > the gentoo kernel was an RPC failure for NET:. Not really sure what that > could be. The following is my lspci output. Please copy the full error you get and post it here. Keep in mind for the future to always do this. We cannot help you without that info, so always just provide it in your first mail. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
> Hello, > > We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1 > that is verified 1920x1080. > > Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable > with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers. > > > OK, so I switch to a DVI-D to HDMI > on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides > are missing. Can you set overscan to 0% in the ATI Catalyst Control Center. Does that make a difference? > > OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is > on the mark: > http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826 > > But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not > to mention messing with the dot clock et al... > > > Anyone want to venture a guess about the display settings, > suggested in the link? that I should use? A better way? > > Here's the (example) math I use to use: > # DisplaySize 426 266 > # width = (1680pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 427 --> 426 > # hieght = (1050pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 267 --> 266 > > > Here is what's working with the dvi-dvi cable: > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" > Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" > Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" > Option "DPMS" "true" > HorizSync30-81 > VertRefresh 56-75 > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" > Driver "fglrx" > BusID "PCI:2:0:0" > # Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" > Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" > Monitor"aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes"1920x1080" "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > >
[gentoo-user] Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders
My Facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982 Scanned documents in the (currently 42) photo albums of my Facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982#!/profile.php?id=10750083982&v=photos Videos in my Facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982&v=app_2392950137 == To: The Linux Community I am a big fan of Linux. In fact, I am running Fedora 11 x86_64 64-bit Linux on my home multimedia desktop tower system. In order to run multiple other Linux distributions at the same time without rebooting my home personal computer, I am using the open source Xen Type 1 hypervisor/virtualization solution. You may check out my work and in-depth technical details on VGA Pass-through for add-on PCI-Express x16 graphics card to Xen-based Windows XP Home Edition 32-bit guest operating system/HVM domU running inside my Fedora 11 64-bit host operating system at the xen-devel (Xen developers) mailing list at the following internet links from July to November 2009. July 2009: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-07/index.html August 2009: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-08/index.html September 2009: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-09/index.html October 2009: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-10/index.html November 2009: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-11/index.html You may also watch High-Definition (HD) videos of Intel VT-d VGA Pass-through for PCI-Express x16 graphics card to Windows XP Home Edition HVM domU guest operating system at my Youtube account. Please visit the following Youtube link to watch my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo My works on the open source Xen virtualization Intel VT-d VGA pass-through, Building a Rocks HPC Cluster with Xen Hardware Virtual Machines (HVM), How to Setup a Virtual Supercomputer Center or HPC Cluster using Xen Virtual Machines, and Using Xen Virtualization Environment for Development and Testing of Supercomputer and High Performance Computing (HPC) Cluster MPICH2 Applications were also listed on the official Xen.org website. http://www.xen.org/support/tutorial.html Besides running Fedora 11 64-bit Linux as my host operating system (my heavily customized Xen Paravirt-Operations Domain 0 or Parent Partition in Windows Server 2008 speak with various pv-ops Dom0-patched self-compiled kernels), I am also running other Linux distributions like Fedora 12 i386 32-bit Linux, FreeBSD amd64 UNIX, openSolaris 64-bit UNIX, openSUSE 11.2 Linux, NPACI Rocks HPC Cluster, Slackware64 13.0 64-bit Linux, and Ubuntu 9.10 Linux, either as para-virtualized (PV), or fully virtualized guest operating systems/domU. Non-*NIX operating systems like Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 have to be run as Hardware Virtual Machines (HVM) under a Xen pv-ops Dom0 Linux operating system. You may want to refer to my picture/screenshot tutorials of installing various Linux distributions, UNIX variants like FreeBSD, and UNIX operating system openSolaris as virtual machines/guest operating systems under a Linux host operating system at my wordpress.com website. Please click on the following internet link: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com/ This is my secondary IT blog. My primary IT blog is http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com/ Since Google Inc. announced the release of the open source 32-bit Chromium OS (which is actually a stripped down Ubuntu 9.10-based Linux operating system) for netbooks last year, I have made an un-official port of chromiumos to the x86_64 64-bit architecture, which I called ChromiumOS64 myself. In the later stages of development, I have added Jeremy Fitzhardinge's Xen paravirt-ops Dom0 capability to my un-official ChromiumOS64 project (ChromiumOS64-Xen). My ChromiumOS64 and ChromiumOS64-Xen projects are listed at the official Xen.org website. Please visit http://www.xen.org/community/projects.html I am also enthusiastic about customizing and compiling my own Linux kernels. To add basic security to my home personal Linux multimedia computer, I have installed the open source Snort Network Intrusion Detection System (NIDS) and the open source OSSEC Host Intrusion Detection System (HIDS). A basic iptables script is also in force. I am also running s...@home (BOINC client) on my Linux PC to contribute to the search for extraterrestrials. And not forgetting that I have compiled Linux from Scratch (LFS) 6.5 from scratch following the LFS 6.5 Handbook and installed the PacMan Package Manager, essentially making it an ArchLinux Linux distribution. I hope that the above information that I have provided may be useful to you. ===
[gentoo-user] Kernel Configuration
All, I recently asked about some issues about getting my kernel to boot. I would rather not use the ubuntu kernel as previously suggested unless it is completely safe. I am currently booting successfully off of Ubuntu running kernel version 2.6.32-21-generic. The errors I kept getting when booting the gentoo kernel was an RPC failure for NET:. Not really sure what that could be. The following is my lspci output. 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge Alternate 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 9602 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3) 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] 00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 41) 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller (rev 40) 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (rev 40) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Link Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4200] 02:00.0 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller (rev 20) 02:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller (rev 20) 02:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller (rev 20) 02:00.4 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. xD Host Controller (rev 20) 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05) Respectfully, Aaron
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 15:31, James wrote: > Hello, > > We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1 > that is verified 1920x1080. > > Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable > with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers. > > > OK, so I switch to a DVI-D to HDMI > on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides > are missing. > > OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is > on the mark: > http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826 > > But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not > to mention messing with the dot clock et al... > > > Anyone want to venture a guess about the display settings, > suggested in the link? that I should use? A better way? > > Here's the (example) math I use to use: > # DisplaySize 426 266 > # width = (1680pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 427 --> 426 > # hieght = (1050pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 267 --> 266 > > > Here is what's working with the dvi-dvi cable: > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" > Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" > Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" > Option "DPMS" "true" > HorizSync 30-81 > VertRefresh 56-75 > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" > Driver "fglrx" > BusID "PCI:2:0:0" > # Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" > Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" > Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1920x1080" "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > > Have you tried setting the INPUT NAME of the HDMI to "PC" using the remote (on TV)? My Samsung does the same, after I set my HDMI as "PC" everything is at the right place. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:31 on Friday 27 August 2010, James did opine thusly: > Hello, > > We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1 > that is verified 1920x1080. > > Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable > with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers. > > > OK, so I switch to a DVI-D to HDMI > on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides > are missing. > > OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is > on the mark: > http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826 > > But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not > to mention messing with the dot clock I don't have an answer to your actual question, but I can answer the above. You have nothing to fear from fiddling with clock settings on a flat panel. That only ever applied to CRT displays where running the horizontal frequency higher than the circuit was designed for would increase the HT voltage at the final anode - which often cracked the thin glass on the tube neck. Flat panels do not have a concept of scan coil to drive, there is no HT transformer and there is no tube to have 28kV inside of. The owrst you can do is to get no picture. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:00 PM, James wrote: > Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > > >> Is the monitor doing overscan on HDMI? > > I'd assume the monitor (HDMI input) is doing the overscan, > since HDMI is suppose to be 'smart'. > That what the link suggested. > >> Is the ATI driver doing underscan on HDMI based on the assumption that >> the monitor will overscan? > NO, it works find with a dvi-d 2 dvi-d cable. The computer is > always dvi-d (to either dvi-d cable 1 or hdmi cable 2).. > so how could ati-driver be doing the hdmi (embedded) protocol? > >> Check if your monitor on-screen menu has overscan settings (or change >> it to "PC Mode" or something, the manufacturers all have different >> terminology). Otherwise if it has no settings you'll have to conitunue >> messing with the ATI drivers instead. > > NO, the only pc setting is when you use a standard 15 pin > VGA cable and no protocol to adjust scan or scan ratesss > > > I'm guessing I stuck with xorg.conf machinations. > (oh boy, here we go again..) > > Ideas? I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it has "Just Scan" mode which could potentially show you the original image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :)
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
Paul Hartman gmail.com> writes: > Is the monitor doing overscan on HDMI? I'd assume the monitor (HDMI input) is doing the overscan, since HDMI is suppose to be 'smart'. That what the link suggested. > Is the ATI driver doing underscan on HDMI based on the assumption that > the monitor will overscan? NO, it works find with a dvi-d 2 dvi-d cable. The computer is always dvi-d (to either dvi-d cable 1 or hdmi cable 2).. so how could ati-driver be doing the hdmi (embedded) protocol? > Check if your monitor on-screen menu has overscan settings (or change > it to "PC Mode" or something, the manufacturers all have different > terminology). Otherwise if it has no settings you'll have to conitunue > messing with the ATI drivers instead. NO, the only pc setting is when you use a standard 15 pin VGA cable and no protocol to adjust scan or scan ratesss I'm guessing I stuck with xorg.conf machinations. (oh boy, here we go again..) Ideas? James
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:31 PM, James wrote: > We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1 > that is verified 1920x1080. > > Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable > with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers. > > > OK, so I switch to a DVI-D to HDMI > on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides > are missing. I guess this is the question to me: Is the monitor doing overscan on HDMI? or Is the ATI driver doing underscan on HDMI based on the assumption that the monitor will overscan? Check if your monitor on-screen menu has overscan settings (or change it to "PC Mode" or something, the manufacturers all have different terminology). Otherwise if it has no settings you'll have to conitunue messing with the ATI drivers instead.
[gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
Hello, We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1 that is verified 1920x1080. Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers. OK, so I switch to a DVI-D to HDMI on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides are missing. OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is on the mark: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826 But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not to mention messing with the dot clock et al... Anyone want to venture a guess about the display settings, suggested in the link? that I should use? A better way? Here's the (example) math I use to use: # DisplaySize 426 266 # width = (1680pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 427 --> 426 # hieght = (1050pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 267 --> 266 Here is what's working with the dvi-dvi cable: Section "Monitor" Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" Option "DPMS" "true" HorizSync30-81 VertRefresh 56-75 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Driver "fglrx" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" # Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Monitor"aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes"1920x1080" "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection
Re: [gentoo-user] How and whether to take action on elog message from sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.73
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:55:58AM -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > Leaving that aside, the message does not state *which* filename to > append ".static" to, and where to change it, so I'm baffled as to > how to take action on this message, even if I thought it important > to do. Itis a confusing message, but I finally figured it out. Try this: ls -l /sbin|grep lvm You'll see that all lvm commands (vgscan etc) are symlinked to lvm. You'll also see there's an "lvm.static" command. So if you want to run one of the lvm commands in static mode, you probably have to change its symlink to point to lvm.static instead of lvm. There may be other similar lvm commands, I do not know. A similar ls -l|grep for "static" shows other commands, but I do not think they are lvm. That's all. Simple once you see it :-) -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache crashed, what could be the reason?
On 27. 8. 2010 19:23, Kyle Bader wrote: I noticed you have mod_dav& mod_cache and are running 2.2.15, perhaps it's this? http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-1452 You may be right! But what can I do? There is not even masked version 2.2.16 in portage, despite the fact it has been released by apache-foundation on 2010-07-25 (together with description of vulnerability found in 2.2.15). There has already been bug opened in gentoo-bugzila on 2010-07-28... BTW in the meantime my apache crashed again the same way, after not a single day uptime! Something I have never seen before, actually my apache has been running without any problem since the last update. And now this! Quite unpleasant, for such a critical server-software... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] How and whether to take action on elog message from sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.73
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:55 on Friday 27 August 2010, Kevin O'Gorman did opine thusly: > I read the logs, but it doesn't always help. This one apparently used to > build statically, > and is now using shared libraries. Here's the message: > === > *Subject:* [portage] ebuild log for sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.73 on > treat.kosmanor.com > > LOG: setup > Warning, we no longer overwrite /sbin/lvm and /sbin/dmsetup with > their static versions. If you need the static binaries, > you must append .static the filename! > === > ** > It's not clear to me that I would need this package when dynamically > loading is inactive, > partly because I don't think that happens -- /usr/lib is not on a separate > partition, so > it's always there. > > Leaving that aside, the message does not state *which* filename to append > ".static" to, > and where to change it, so I'm baffled as to how to take action on this > message, even > if I thought it important to do. > > Anyone have a clue? I should think it's quite obvious actually. The elog mentions /usr/lib nowhere, it does mention /sbin. It also explicitly mentions two filenames: /sbin/lvm /sbin/dmsetup then says that they are no longer overwritten with static versions. So, presumably, /sbin/{lvm|dmsetup} exists (probably statically linked), and the ebuild writes dynamically linked versions in their place. If you want static versions, you must rename the two old files to lvm.static and dmsetup.static. It is not a problem to have these binaries dynamically linked as a. they are in /sbin and /lib which by convention are mandated to be on the same partition as / and therefore always available, b. /usr/ is referenced nowhere. Witness: nazgul ~ # ldd /sbin/lvm linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x7a3ff000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7ff2c5aed000) libdevmapper-event.so.1.02 => /lib/libdevmapper-event.so.1.02 (0x7ff2c58e7000) libdevmapper.so.1.02 => /lib/libdevmapper.so.1.02 (0x7ff2c56c1000) libreadline.so.6 => /lib/libreadline.so.6 (0x7ff2c547c000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7ff2c51f9000) libudev.so.0 => /lib/libudev.so.0 (0x7ff2c4feb000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7ff2c4c74000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7ff2c5cf1000) libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x7ff2c4a23000) nazgul ~ # ldd /sbin/dmsetup linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x7fff925ff000) libdevmapper.so.1.02 => /lib/libdevmapper.so.1.02 (0x7fb0e5a8d000) libudev.so.0 => /lib/libudev.so.0 (0x7fb0e587f000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7fb0e5508000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7fb0e5cb3000) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache crashed, what could be the reason?
> Except for that, only common scannings for phpMyAdmin, myadmin, pma, > mysql, scripts, etc. Nothing more. Any ideas why apache died? I noticed you have mod_dav & mod_cache and are running 2.2.15, perhaps it's this? http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-1452 -- Kyle
Re: [gentoo-user] email client with USE flags -gtk -kde?
100827 tpar...@etherstorm.net wrote: > Can anyone recommend an email client that will work > with -gtk and -kde USE flags? Have you tried Mutt ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox (Namoroka-3.6.8, actually) and Epiphany-2.31-r1 both fail to show captchas
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/26/2010 04:29 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Kevin O'Gorman >> wrote: >> >>> On a number of websites, I've been unable to see the "captcha" that I >>> need >>> to complete my business. Neither the image nor the response show up. >>> >>> Opera, on the other hand, works fine (as does IE on my Windoze laptop). >>> >>> For instance, I can register (it's free) with the NY Times, read an >>> article >>> (example: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/26/world/asia/26kabul.html) but >>> if >>> I try to email this to anyone using the link that appears on the page, >>> I'm >>> confronted with a dialog that should have a captcha and a box for my >>> answer. It does not appear, and I cannot proceed. >>> >> >> I can't try that page because it requires an account to email to >> someone else. But, in general, my first suspects would be if you're >> using NoScript or AdBlockPlus and perhaps they are not allowing the >> javascript from the captcha service to run. >> >> > I just emailed myself that article, and there was no Captcha? Only had to > disable NoScript to get the "E-mail" popup to show. > > That's normal. I hadn't noticed, but the captcha does not appear until you type something in the message box of the email popup. On the systems with the fault, all I see is a message: "Word verification prevents automated systems from adding spam messages to your email." On Opera or IE, one also sees the captcha and a field to fill out. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
[gentoo-user] How and whether to take action on elog message from sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.73
I read the logs, but it doesn't always help. This one apparently used to build statically, and is now using shared libraries. Here's the message: === *Subject:* [portage] ebuild log for sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.73 on treat.kosmanor.com LOG: setup Warning, we no longer overwrite /sbin/lvm and /sbin/dmsetup with their static versions. If you need the static binaries, you must append .static the filename! === ** It's not clear to me that I would need this package when dynamically loading is inactive, partly because I don't think that happens -- /usr/lib is not on a separate partition, so it's always there. Leaving that aside, the message does not state *which* filename to append ".static" to, and where to change it, so I'm baffled as to how to take action on this message, even if I thought it important to do. Anyone have a clue? -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Bill Longman wrote: On 08/27/2010 09:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 18:03:51 Bill Longman wrote: On 08/27/2010 01:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: Yet another way to use labels: When you make the filesystem, apply the name then i.e.: mke2fs -j -L SpeedySSD /dev/sde1 then in your /etc/fstab use the label like this: LABEL=SpeedySSD /usr/home ext3 relatime 0 2 I don't think Dale (The OT) would like to have to reformat his partitions just to get this to work :) :-) I thought, too, (of course *after* I had pressed "SEND") that I should have switched those two sentences around. I do not mean to imply that you have to zap all your data to use labels. That would really drive people away from Gentoo, wouldn't it? (I'll be right there, honey, I just have to reformat my boot partition!) Please read these as two completely separate and independent examples, one for how to set them up in the first place and second, how to apply them. I knew what you meant tho. That was the best part of reading that. They should put this in the install guide. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 09:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday 27 August 2010 18:03:51 Bill Longman wrote: >> On 08/27/2010 01:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: > > > >> Yet another way to use labels: >> >> When you make the filesystem, apply the name then i.e.: >> >> mke2fs -j -L SpeedySSD /dev/sde1 >> >> then in your /etc/fstab use the label like this: >> >> LABEL=SpeedySSD /usr/home ext3 relatime 0 2 > > I don't think Dale (The OT) would like to have to reformat his partitions > just > to get this to work :) :-) I thought, too, (of course *after* I had pressed "SEND") that I should have switched those two sentences around. I do not mean to imply that you have to zap all your data to use labels. That would really drive people away from Gentoo, wouldn't it? (I'll be right there, honey, I just have to reformat my boot partition!) Please read these as two completely separate and independent examples, one for how to set them up in the first place and second, how to apply them.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 09:06 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Friday 27 August 2010 17:57:01 Bill Longman wrote: >>> On 08/27/2010 01:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Anyway, make sure you have a bootable Linux CD/DVD handy. That > way, you > won't be able to blow anything up and can boot from it in order to > change your /etc/fstab and grub conf. Alternatively, give your partitions Labels and reconfigure /etc/fstab to use those. Then you don't have to worry about the changes to the device-names. >>> >>> I second Joost's recommendation. I don't think you can use labels on the >>> kernel command line, so your grub will have to know for sure which >>> device to boot. >> >> Actually, you can: >> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.html >> >> (Read the section below "Use a label"): >> >> fstab: >> LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 >> LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 >> LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 >> LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 > > This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. > Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. What kernel drivers are you using? Here's my fstab on my x64 box that has been booting perfectly for months. And I boot it lots because it's my dev't box: LABEL=boot /boot ext3 noauto,noatime 1 2 LABEL=root / ext3 relatime0 1 LABEL=swap none swap sw 0 0 LABEL=usr /usr ext3 relatime0 2 LABEL=var /var ext3 relatime0 2 LABEL=opt /opt ext3 relatime0 2 LABEL=home /home ext3 relatime0 2
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 09:06 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> Actually, you can: >> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.html And this is similar to the syntax in the kernel's Documentation/intel_txt.txt file. >> (Read the section below "Use a label"): >> >> fstab: >> LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 >> LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 >> LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 >> LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 > > This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. > Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. Are you using ReiserFS, Nikos? It works wonders with ext.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On Friday 27 August 2010 18:03:51 Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/27/2010 01:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: > Yet another way to use labels: > > When you make the filesystem, apply the name then i.e.: > > mke2fs -j -L SpeedySSD /dev/sde1 > > then in your /etc/fstab use the label like this: > > LABEL=SpeedySSD /usr/home ext3 relatime 0 2 I don't think Dale (The OT) would like to have to reformat his partitions just to get this to work :) -- Joost
[gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 17:57:01 Bill Longman wrote: On 08/27/2010 01:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Anyway, make sure you have a bootable Linux CD/DVD handy. That way, you won't be able to blow anything up and can boot from it in order to change your /etc/fstab and grub conf. Alternatively, give your partitions Labels and reconfigure /etc/fstab to use those. Then you don't have to worry about the changes to the device-names. I second Joost's recommendation. I don't think you can use labels on the kernel command line, so your grub will have to know for sure which device to boot. Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.html (Read the section below "Use a label"): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 01:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: >> I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to >> push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 >> motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE >> drivers. This is what I have currently: >> >> hda Actual hard drive OS on this >> hdb Actual hard drive Not in use >> hdc Actual hard drive home partition >> hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. >> sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. > > The advice by the other posters to label your disks is a good one. I'm > using labels too. Not sure why I didn't think to mention it :P > > Applying labels to your filesystems is trivial. Simply use the e2label > utility (it's in the sys-fs/e2fsprogs package and installed by default, > so there's nothing new to emerge). For example, if your hda1 is your > root partition and your hda2 your swap, you can label them like this: > > e2label /dev/hda1 GentooRoot > e2label /dev/hda2 GentooSwap > > Note: hda1, not just hda. You are labeling the filesystem on a > partition, not the whole drive. > > After you label all your filesystems, you simply modify your /etc/fstab > like this: > > Before: > /dev/hda1 / ext4 noatime 0 1 > /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 > > After: > /dev/disk/by-label/GentooRoot / ext4 noatime 0 1 > /dev/disk/by-label/GentooSwap none swap sw 0 0 > > That is, you simply change "/dev/blah" to > "/dev/disk/by-label/DriveLabel" and that's it. Yet another way to use labels: When you make the filesystem, apply the name then i.e.: mke2fs -j -L SpeedySSD /dev/sde1 then in your /etc/fstab use the label like this: LABEL=SpeedySSD /usr/home ext3 relatime 0 2
Re: [gentoo-user] Virtualization where to go from VMWare-Server-1?
On 08/27/2010 12:58 AM, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently running a guest with VMware-Server-1. However the modules > needed for that on the host are no longer supported and I am stuck with 2.6.31 > for the moment. > So I am thinking of alternatives. My requirements: > > It should only need as much RAM on the host as needed (so XEN with static > assignment is out) > > It should run headless (I don't want a window on the desktop but be able > get console access when needed). > > VMWare import/compatibility would be nice but is not a must have. > > I use VirtualBox on a Mac but can it run headless? Any other proposals? VBox runs great headless. I start three VMs at boot time, all over VRDP. Highly recommended. You can migrate it to other systems if you want, too.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On Friday 27 August 2010 17:57:01 Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/27/2010 01:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> Anyway, make sure you have a bootable Linux CD/DVD handy. That way, you > >> won't be able to blow anything up and can boot from it in order to > >> change your /etc/fstab and grub conf. > > > > Alternatively, give your partitions Labels and reconfigure /etc/fstab to > > use those. > > Then you don't have to worry about the changes to the device-names. > > I second Joost's recommendation. I don't think you can use labels on the > kernel command line, so your grub will have to know for sure which > device to boot. Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.html (Read the section below "Use a label"): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 grub: title Linux root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz ro root=LABEL=ROOT rhgb quiet initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.x.x-xx.img Not tested it myself yet, but I think this doesn't require special patches :) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 01:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> Anyway, make sure you have a bootable Linux CD/DVD handy. That way, you >> won't be able to blow anything up and can boot from it in order to >> change your /etc/fstab and grub conf. > > Alternatively, give your partitions Labels and reconfigure /etc/fstab to use > those. > Then you don't have to worry about the changes to the device-names. I second Joost's recommendation. I don't think you can use labels on the kernel command line, so your grub will have to know for sure which device to boot.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2.6.35 and AHCI - what about "platform" ?
Am 27.08.2010 01:34, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > Since your SATA controller works without that option enabled, you have a > normal AHCI controller on your motherboard's southbridge. That means > the answer is "no". You don't need that option enabled. Thanks, Nikos!
[gentoo-user] Re: Virtualization where to go from VMWare-Server-1?
Konstantinos Agouros wrote: > I use VirtualBox on a Mac but can it run headless? Any other proposals? Yes, see the documentation for VBoxHeadless. -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] email client with USE flags -gtk -kde?
Can anyone recommend an email client that will work with -gtk and -kde USE flags? I know the common ones such as Thunderbird, Evolution, Kmail, and Claws are out. Is there a option similar to those or do I stick with something like Alpine?
[gentoo-user] Virtualization where to go from VMWare-Server-1?
Hi, I am currently running a guest with VMware-Server-1. However the modules needed for that on the host are no longer supported and I am stuck with 2.6.31 for the moment. So I am thinking of alternatives. My requirements: It should only need as much RAM on the host as needed (so XEN with static assignment is out) It should run headless (I don't want a window on the desktop but be able get console access when needed). VMWare import/compatibility would be nice but is not a must have. I use VirtualBox on a Mac but can it run headless? Any other proposals? Thanks, Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Altersheimerstr. 1, 81545 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 "Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos." B'Elana Torres
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still use e2fsprogs to change those? No, but you can use reiserfstune -l. Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? Don't know. But even if so the result is not cecessarily accurate. My two SATA drives were sd[ab], but when I added two PATA drives those got these names, and the SATA ones became sa[cd]. But even this changes, with a kernel derived from GRML, the PATA ones were sd[bc], and the SATA ones sd[ad]. Weird, huh? And things become even mor eunpredictable when I have USB drives plugged in during boot. So I also suggest using labels or UUIDs. My own method is yet another one. As I have everything on LVM (except for the /boot partitino, which is on an USB stick), my drives are identified by their volume group. /dev/weird is the system drive, /dev/weird2 is the identical backup drive. This way I do not have any /dev/sdX in either fstab or grub.conf. And when the system drive fails, I vgrename wird2 to weird, and then the backup drive will become the system drive. Wonko It would be nice if something like *fdisk could edit the labels tho. It would be so much easier. I didn't see anything in the man pages tho. I looked into LVM a good while ago. It's just to much for me to keep up with since I just have a desktop system here. It has its good points but just way overkill for what I have here. It seems as time goes on, things get more complicated. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/27/2010 12:49 PM, Dale wrote: Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? You do the labeling *before* you switch to the new kernel. Once you get it working correctly with your current kernel, then you can upgrade to the new ATA drivers and it will just work (which is the whole point of this exercise.) I hadn't thought of that feature. It should work regardless of which kernel I boot, either the old IDE drivers or the new PATA drivers. Cool !!! Time to start taking notes and putting ducks beaks to duck tails. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 11:49:00 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still use e2fsprogs to change those? Nope: eve ~ # reiserfstune --help reiserfstune: unrecognized option '--help' reiserfstune: Usage: reiserfstune [options] device [block-count] Options: -j | --journal-device filecurrent journal device --journal-new-device file new journal device -o | --journal-new-offset N new journal offset in blocks -s | --journal-new-size N new journal size in blocks -t | --trans-max-size N new journal max transaction size in blocks --no-journal-availablecurrent journal is not available --make-journal-standard new journal to be standard -b | --add-badblocks file add to bad block list -B | --badblocks file set the bad block list -u | --uuid UUID|random set new UUID -l | --label LABELset new label -f | --force force tuning, less confirmations -Vprint version and exit IOW (as example): reiserfstune -l ROOTDISK /dev/hda1 Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? Afraid not. The naming scheme is, officially, not constant and can change with reboots. On my server, with hotswap, I get different device-names when I remove a disk and plug it back in. Eg. /dev/sdb -> /dev/sdj (as example) Don't think you'll have that particular issue, but having these names change between reboots is possible. Especially if a drive fails and is not found during boot or a new drive is added. Not tested, but I believe USB-drives might also get pushed into the mix? -- Joost I do know the USB stuff changes but I wasn't sure about the others. I would think the main drives in a system would come first but one could never make that promise. I'm giving serious thought to using the labels. It would also mean that I don't have to remember what partition is what. Currently I would mount and then list what is in the directory to see what is in it and figure out what it is. With the labels feature, even fdisk would tell me what is what. This would be a good time to move the OS to a new drive. If things work out, run from the new drive. If things blow up, boot the old drive with the old kernel, old fstab and other settings. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Am 27.08.2010 10:50, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > Applying labels to your filesystems is trivial. Simply use the e2label > utility (it's in the sys-fs/e2fsprogs package and installed by default, > so there's nothing new to emerge). For example, if your hda1 is your > root partition and your hda2 your swap, you can label them like this: > > e2label /dev/hda1 GentooRoot > e2label /dev/hda2 GentooSwap > > Note: hda1, not just hda. You are labeling the filesystem on a > partition, not the whole drive. Would that work for raid-devices as well? # /etc/fstab /dev/md0/ ext4noatime,nobarrier,nodiratime0 1 Just curious ... Umm, why not try it? # e2label /dev/md0 gentooRoot # ls /dev/disk/by-label/gentooRoot -l lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 27. Aug 12:14 /dev/disk/by-label/gentooRoot -> ../../md0 cool ... thx, Stefan
[gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 12:49 PM, Dale wrote: Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? You do the labeling *before* you switch to the new kernel. Once you get it working correctly with your current kernel, then you can upgrade to the new ATA drivers and it will just work (which is the whole point of this exercise.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Dale writes: > Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still > use e2fsprogs to change those? No, but you can use reiserfstune -l. > Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA > drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them > and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is > there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? Don't know. But even if so the result is not cecessarily accurate. My two SATA drives were sd[ab], but when I added two PATA drives those got these names, and the SATA ones became sa[cd]. But even this changes, with a kernel derived from GRML, the PATA ones were sd[bc], and the SATA ones sd[ad]. Weird, huh? And things become even mor eunpredictable when I have USB drives plugged in during boot. So I also suggest using labels or UUIDs. My own method is yet another one. As I have everything on LVM (except for the /boot partitino, which is on an USB stick), my drives are identified by their volume group. /dev/weird is the system drive, /dev/weird2 is the identical backup drive. This way I do not have any /dev/sdX in either fstab or grub.conf. And when the system drive fails, I vgrename wird2 to weird, and then the backup drive will become the system drive. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On Friday 27 August 2010 11:49:00 Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Friday 27 August 2010 11:00:58 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: > >> 2010/8/27 Nikos Chantziaras: > >>> On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: > I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going > to push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit > NF7 2.0 motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the > older IDE drivers. This is what I have currently: > > hda Actual hard drive OS on this > hdb Actual hard drive Not in use > hdc Actual hard drive home partition > hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. > sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. > >>> > >>> The advice by the other posters to label your disks is a good one. I'm > >>> using labels too. Not sure why I didn't think to mention it :P > >>> > >>> Applying labels to your filesystems is trivial. Simply use the e2label > >>> utility (it's in the sys-fs/e2fsprogs package and installed by default, > >>> so there's nothing new to emerge). For example, if your hda1 is your > >>> > >>> root partition and your hda2 your swap, you can label them like this: > >>> e2label /dev/hda1 GentooRoot > >>> e2label /dev/hda2 GentooSwap > >>> > >>> Note: hda1, not just hda. You are labeling the filesystem on a > >>> partition, not the whole drive. > >>> > >>> After you label all your filesystems, you simply modify your /etc/fstab > >>> like this: > >>> > >>> Before: > >>> /dev/hda1 / ext4 noatime 0 1 > >>> /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 > >>> > >>> After: > >>> /dev/disk/by-label/GentooRoot / ext4 noatime 0 1 > >>> /dev/disk/by-label/GentooSwap none swap sw 0 0 > >>> > >>> That is, you simply change "/dev/blah" to > >>> "/dev/disk/by-label/DriveLabel" and that's it. > >> > >> Or you can do it by uuid, all the info you need can be picked from this > >> output: > >> > >> $ ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l > >> > >> Then just add lines to fstab like this: > >> > >> UUID="6ea2b219-0bcc-4c90-9960-82a9659e6d0e" / ext4 noatime 0 1 > > > > True, except that for mere mortals, Labels are slightly easier to read > > and understand :) > > > > And that, I find, is less prone to mistakes. > > > > -- > > Joost > > Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still > use e2fsprogs to change those? Nope: eve ~ # reiserfstune --help reiserfstune: unrecognized option '--help' reiserfstune: Usage: reiserfstune [options] device [block-count] Options: -j | --journal-device filecurrent journal device --journal-new-device file new journal device -o | --journal-new-offset N new journal offset in blocks -s | --journal-new-size N new journal size in blocks -t | --trans-max-size N new journal max transaction size in blocks --no-journal-availablecurrent journal is not available --make-journal-standard new journal to be standard -b | --add-badblocks file add to bad block list -B | --badblocks file set the bad block list -u | --uuid UUID|random set new UUID -l | --label LABELset new label -f | --force force tuning, less confirmations -Vprint version and exit IOW (as example): reiserfstune -l ROOTDISK /dev/hda1 > Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA > drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them > and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is > there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? Afraid not. The naming scheme is, officially, not constant and can change with reboots. On my server, with hotswap, I get different device-names when I remove a disk and plug it back in. Eg. /dev/sdb -> /dev/sdj (as example) Don't think you'll have that particular issue, but having these names change between reboots is possible. Especially if a drive fails and is not found during boot or a new drive is added. Not tested, but I believe USB-drives might also get pushed into the mix? -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday 27 August 2010 11:00:58 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2010/8/27 Nikos Chantziaras: On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE drivers. This is what I have currently: hda Actual hard drive OS on this hdb Actual hard drive Not in use hdc Actual hard drive home partition hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. The advice by the other posters to label your disks is a good one. I'm using labels too. Not sure why I didn't think to mention it :P Applying labels to your filesystems is trivial. Simply use the e2label utility (it's in the sys-fs/e2fsprogs package and installed by default, so there's nothing new to emerge). For example, if your hda1 is your root partition and your hda2 your swap, you can label them like this: e2label /dev/hda1 GentooRoot e2label /dev/hda2 GentooSwap Note: hda1, not just hda. You are labeling the filesystem on a partition, not the whole drive. After you label all your filesystems, you simply modify your /etc/fstab like this: Before: /dev/hda1 / ext4 noatime 0 1 /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 After: /dev/disk/by-label/GentooRoot / ext4 noatime 0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/GentooSwap none swap sw 0 0 That is, you simply change "/dev/blah" to "/dev/disk/by-label/DriveLabel" and that's it. Or you can do it by uuid, all the info you need can be picked from this output: $ ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l Then just add lines to fstab like this: UUID="6ea2b219-0bcc-4c90-9960-82a9659e6d0e" / ext4 noatime 0 1 True, except that for mere mortals, Labels are slightly easier to read and understand :) And that, I find, is less prone to mistakes. -- Joost Hmmm, I use resierfs for my file systems, most of them anyway. I still use e2fsprogs to change those? Is there a way to boot a Gentoo/Knoppix CD and make it use the PATA drivers? That way I can boot it and see exactly how it will name them and what drive is what without actually changing anything at all. Is there a boot option "noide" or some other switch I can use? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2010/8/27 J. Roeleveld: On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: Hi folks, I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE drivers. This is what I have currently: hda Actual hard drive OS on this hdb Actual hard drive Not in use hdc Actual hard drive home partition hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. So, hda has the Gentoo OS on it and hdc is my /hone directory. I have videos, mp3's and various other data on sda. Currently hdb is not being used, since for those who keep up with my threads would know, it is the one that is terribly slow. Something along the lines of 10Mbs/sec or something of that nature. It's just hard to get out of the case right now and I can't get to it with a hammer either. :/ You can at least disconnect it then. Right now all it does and eat power, heat the case and make noise :-/ My theory is something like this: hda will become sda; hdb will become sdb; hdc will become sdc; hdd will become sdd; and sda will become sde. Would that be a logical expectation? I'd say sda will stay as is, hda will become sdb, and so forth. This entirely depends on the way your BIOS orders your drivers, as far as I know. It could be either way. But, we all know how flexible grub is. You can just use TAB to autocomplete and try. All you need to boot is your root fs, after that fdisk -l will reveal all the info you need. fstab is another story, that might cost you an extra reboot into a livecd to fix it. But, using labels as said will fix all the problems (beforehand) for you, as said. I have heard of the labels before but never used them. I need to google that and see how that is done. Another thing that I hadn't thought of, grub. I didn't even think about grub would have to be edited. That would have been interesting when I tried to boot up. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On Friday 27 August 2010 11:00:58 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: > 2010/8/27 Nikos Chantziaras : > > On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: > >> I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to > >> push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 > >> motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE > >> drivers. This is what I have currently: > >> > >> hda Actual hard drive OS on this > >> hdb Actual hard drive Not in use > >> hdc Actual hard drive home partition > >> hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. > >> sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. > > > > The advice by the other posters to label your disks is a good one. I'm > > using labels too. Not sure why I didn't think to mention it :P > > > > Applying labels to your filesystems is trivial. Simply use the e2label > > utility (it's in the sys-fs/e2fsprogs package and installed by default, > > so there's nothing new to emerge). For example, if your hda1 is your > > root partition and your hda2 your swap, you can label them like this: > > > > e2label /dev/hda1 GentooRoot > > e2label /dev/hda2 GentooSwap > > > > Note: hda1, not just hda. You are labeling the filesystem on a > > partition, not the whole drive. > > > > After you label all your filesystems, you simply modify your /etc/fstab > > like this: > > > > Before: > > /dev/hda1 / ext4 noatime 0 1 > > /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 > > > > After: > > /dev/disk/by-label/GentooRoot / ext4 noatime 0 1 > > /dev/disk/by-label/GentooSwap none swap sw 0 0 > > > > That is, you simply change "/dev/blah" to "/dev/disk/by-label/DriveLabel" > > and that's it. > > Or you can do it by uuid, all the info you need can be picked from this > output: > > $ ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l > > Then just add lines to fstab like this: > > UUID="6ea2b219-0bcc-4c90-9960-82a9659e6d0e" / ext4 noatime 0 1 True, except that for mere mortals, Labels are slightly easier to read and understand :) And that, I find, is less prone to mistakes. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
2010/8/27 Nikos Chantziaras : > On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: >> >> I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to >> push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 >> motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE >> drivers. This is what I have currently: >> >> hda Actual hard drive OS on this >> hdb Actual hard drive Not in use >> hdc Actual hard drive home partition >> hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. >> sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. > > The advice by the other posters to label your disks is a good one. I'm > using labels too. Not sure why I didn't think to mention it :P > > Applying labels to your filesystems is trivial. Simply use the e2label > utility (it's in the sys-fs/e2fsprogs package and installed by default, so > there's nothing new to emerge). For example, if your hda1 is your root > partition and your hda2 your swap, you can label them like this: > > e2label /dev/hda1 GentooRoot > e2label /dev/hda2 GentooSwap > > Note: hda1, not just hda. You are labeling the filesystem on a partition, > not the whole drive. > > After you label all your filesystems, you simply modify your /etc/fstab like > this: > > Before: > /dev/hda1 / ext4 noatime 0 1 > /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 > > After: > /dev/disk/by-label/GentooRoot / ext4 noatime 0 1 > /dev/disk/by-label/GentooSwap none swap sw 0 0 > > That is, you simply change "/dev/blah" to "/dev/disk/by-label/DriveLabel" > and that's it. > > > Or you can do it by uuid, all the info you need can be picked from this output: $ ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l Then just add lines to fstab like this: UUID="6ea2b219-0bcc-4c90-9960-82a9659e6d0e" / ext4 noatime 0 1 -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
[gentoo-user] Re: Is there any games base on openCL?
On 08/25/2010 02:44 AM, Blackdream W wrote: I install the ati-drivers-10.7.1 just now,this version it seem support openCL 1.1. Any games base on it? Not right now. And it probably will stay that way, since games mainly target Windows as a platform and there they can use either PhysX on NVidia cards and DX11 Physics for ATI; OpenCL doesn't play a role there.
[gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE drivers. This is what I have currently: hda Actual hard drive OS on this hdb Actual hard drive Not in use hdc Actual hard drive home partition hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. The advice by the other posters to label your disks is a good one. I'm using labels too. Not sure why I didn't think to mention it :P Applying labels to your filesystems is trivial. Simply use the e2label utility (it's in the sys-fs/e2fsprogs package and installed by default, so there's nothing new to emerge). For example, if your hda1 is your root partition and your hda2 your swap, you can label them like this: e2label /dev/hda1 GentooRoot e2label /dev/hda2 GentooSwap Note: hda1, not just hda. You are labeling the filesystem on a partition, not the whole drive. After you label all your filesystems, you simply modify your /etc/fstab like this: Before: /dev/hda1 / ext4 noatime 0 1 /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 After: /dev/disk/by-label/GentooRoot / ext4 noatime 0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/GentooSwap none swap sw 0 0 That is, you simply change "/dev/blah" to "/dev/disk/by-label/DriveLabel" and that's it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any games base on openCL?
On 26 Aug 2010, at 06:24, Blackdream W wrote: 2010/8/26 Volker Armin Hemmann On Wednesday 25 August 2010, Blackdream W wrote: I install the ati-drivers-10.7.1 just now,this version it seem support openCL 1.1. Any games base on it? Thanks. games can not be based on opencl. Games might be able to use opencl tospeedup certain kinds of calculations. But you can not 'use' opencl like opengltobase a game on it. Sorry..I don't know how to describe it clearly, with my poor English... My understanding is that OpenCL is mostly useful for scientific applications and things like WPA cracking. It allows access to graphics card processing in a way that is *not* dependent on sending the results to video. That's quite different from the need, in gaming, to send high-quality output to the screen. In gaming the CPUs are about adequate for things like deciding where the bad guys should hide or if your spaceship can carry the selected quantity of cargo. So in gaming it's desirable to dedicate the graphics card to making the screen look pretty, and there is no use for OpenCL. The exception to this is that OpenCL type stuff *might* be used for physics simulations in games - I've seen demonstrations in which the PhysX engine is used to model a rockfall or avalanche more accurately, so that more rocks can be shown on screen at once time. Flying through an asteroid field or the debris of an exploded enemy fighter might be better modelled using something like OpenCL. However I doubt that there are many Linux-based games that can use this kind of acceleration. Is it possible you were thinking of OpenGL? Also: please don't top-post, at least when the person you're replying to has posted underneath some quoted text. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
2010/8/27 J. Roeleveld : > On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: >> > Hi folks, >> > >> > I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to >> > push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 >> > motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE >> > drivers. This is what I have currently: >> > >> > hda Actual hard drive OS on this >> > hdb Actual hard drive Not in use >> > hdc Actual hard drive home partition >> > hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. >> > sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. >> > >> > >> > So, hda has the Gentoo OS on it and hdc is my /hone directory. I have >> > videos, mp3's and various other data on sda. Currently hdb is not being >> > used, since for those who keep up with my threads would know, it is the >> > one that is terribly slow. Something along the lines of 10Mbs/sec or >> > something of that nature. It's just hard to get out of the case right >> > now and I can't get to it with a hammer either. :/ >> >> You can at least disconnect it then. Right now all it does and eat >> power, heat the case and make noise :-/ >> >> > My theory is something like this: hda will become sda; hdb will become >> > sdb; hdc will become sdc; hdd will become sdd; and sda will become sde. >> > Would that be a logical expectation? >> >> I'd say sda will stay as is, hda will become sdb, and so forth. This entirely depends on the way your BIOS orders your drivers, as far as I know. It could be either way. But, we all know how flexible grub is. You can just use TAB to autocomplete and try. All you need to boot is your root fs, after that fdisk -l will reveal all the info you need. fstab is another story, that might cost you an extra reboot into a livecd to fix it. But, using labels as said will fix all the problems (beforehand) for you, as said. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On Friday 27 August 2010 09:49:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to > > push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 > > motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE > > drivers. This is what I have currently: > > > > hda Actual hard drive OS on this > > hdb Actual hard drive Not in use > > hdc Actual hard drive home partition > > hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. > > sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. > > > > > > So, hda has the Gentoo OS on it and hdc is my /hone directory. I have > > videos, mp3's and various other data on sda. Currently hdb is not being > > used, since for those who keep up with my threads would know, it is the > > one that is terribly slow. Something along the lines of 10Mbs/sec or > > something of that nature. It's just hard to get out of the case right > > now and I can't get to it with a hammer either. :/ > > You can at least disconnect it then. Right now all it does and eat > power, heat the case and make noise :-/ > > > My theory is something like this: hda will become sda; hdb will become > > sdb; hdc will become sdc; hdd will become sdd; and sda will become sde. > > Would that be a logical expectation? > > I'd say sda will stay as is, hda will become sdb, and so forth. > > Anyway, make sure you have a bootable Linux CD/DVD handy. That way, you > won't be able to blow anything up and can boot from it in order to > change your /etc/fstab and grub conf. Alternatively, give your partitions Labels and reconfigure /etc/fstab to use those. Then you don't have to worry about the changes to the device-names. -- Joost
[gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
On 08/27/2010 10:37 AM, Dale wrote: Hi folks, I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE drivers. This is what I have currently: hda Actual hard drive OS on this hdb Actual hard drive Not in use hdc Actual hard drive home partition hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. So, hda has the Gentoo OS on it and hdc is my /hone directory. I have videos, mp3's and various other data on sda. Currently hdb is not being used, since for those who keep up with my threads would know, it is the one that is terribly slow. Something along the lines of 10Mbs/sec or something of that nature. It's just hard to get out of the case right now and I can't get to it with a hammer either. :/ You can at least disconnect it then. Right now all it does and eat power, heat the case and make noise :-/ My theory is something like this: hda will become sda; hdb will become sdb; hdc will become sdc; hdd will become sdd; and sda will become sde. Would that be a logical expectation? I'd say sda will stay as is, hda will become sdb, and so forth. Anyway, make sure you have a bootable Linux CD/DVD handy. That way, you won't be able to blow anything up and can boot from it in order to change your /etc/fstab and grub conf.
[gentoo-user] Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Hi folks, I been putting this off but it looks like the newer kernels are going to push me to changing this real soon. I have a older system, Abit NF7 2.0 motherboard with the older IDE drives. I'm still using the older IDE drivers. This is what I have currently: hda Actual hard drive OS on this hdb Actual hard drive Not in use hdc Actual hard drive home partition hdd DVD burner Duh! It's a burner. sda Actual hard drive connected through a SATA PCI card. Misc stuff. So, hda has the Gentoo OS on it and hdc is my /hone directory. I have videos, mp3's and various other data on sda. Currently hdb is not being used, since for those who keep up with my threads would know, it is the one that is terribly slow. Something along the lines of 10Mbs/sec or something of that nature. It's just hard to get out of the case right now and I can't get to it with a hammer either. :/ My theory is something like this: hda will become sda; hdb will become sdb; hdc will become sdc; hdd will become sdd; and sda will become sde. Would that be a logical expectation? Anybody see anything that may cause a hiccup on this change? I know I have to update fstab before rebooting. I may also have a sledge hammer or a really big shotgun close by, just in case it gets any bad ideas like messing up /home. ;-) I'm currently using this: AMD and nVidia IDE support This would be the new, possibly improved, version of things: AMD/NVidia PATA support Correct? I'm just wanting to cover a few bases and make sure I am on the right track and understand things before I blow up something. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)