Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build nvidia driver on older Dell
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Pint??r Tibor wrote resync and use the new version The solution turned out to be not so much resync as keywording the latest build in /etc/portage/package.keywords =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-260.19.29 ~x86 Another couple of days of trouble-free operation, and I'll put in a request in bugzilla to promote it from ~x86 to x86. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] xorg-server
Hi Gentoo Users I have just upgraded to xorg-server 1.9.2 but unfortunately my keyboard is not recognising gb layout I have copied across use-estonian-layout.fdi.bz2 to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi and altered to gb. Rebooted etc but still keyboard is wrong. Is this still the correct file to change or should I be using xorg.conf? I have renamed to 10-keymap.fdi but does not make a difference. Following gentoo documentation. -- John D Maunder j...@articwolf.myzen.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:14:53 +, John wrote: I have just upgraded to xorg-server 1.9.2 but unfortunately my keyboard is not recognising gb layout I have copied across use-estonian-layout.fdi.bz2 to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi and altered to gb. Rebooted etc but still keyboard is wrong. Is this still the correct file to change or should I be using xorg.conf? xorg-server 1.9 no longer uses hal, xorg.conf is the easiest way to do this. -- Neil Bothwick If man ruled the world: Daisy Duke shorts would never go out of fashion. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Is there a standard sysctl-like way to modify sysfs files at boot time?
I want to do this: http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/11/forget-200-lines-red-hat-speed.html in userspace, but automate it at boot time. it requires that I create and mount the cgroup subsystem in sysfs and sounds a lot like something that I'd do in sysctl for /proc/sys, but for sysfs rather than procfs. The only thing that comes to mind is to append to the local init script, but it's so close to what sysctl does that I feel like someone's probably written some tool for it. Is there one? -- This email is:[ ] actionable [ ] fyi[x] social Response needed: [x] yes [ ] up to you [ ] no Time-sensitive: [ ] immediate[ ] soon [x] none
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
John wrote: Hi Gentoo Users I have just upgraded to xorg-server 1.9.2 but unfortunately my keyboard is not recognising gb layout I have copied across use-estonian-layout.fdi.bz2 to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi and altered to gb. Rebooted etc but still keyboard is wrong. Is this still the correct file to change or should I be using xorg.conf? I have renamed to 10-keymap.fdi but does not make a difference. Following gentoo documentation. I don't think that version uses hal, but uses udev. Is the udev USE flag enabled? I think you may want to try using a xorg.conf file but I'm not certain it is required. I gave up on hal a long time ago so I still have my file here. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] [EXAMPLE] Configuring xorg without hal
I just fumbled my way through converting my old hal mouse configuration to the new way of putting it back in xorg.conf (where it belongs :) Peter Hutterer gave me a link to his blog, which was very helpful: http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-configuration-world-order.html Turns out that the xorg-server-1.9.x defaults work okay with my cheap M$ optical wheel-mouse, but not with my expensive trackball mouse without a wheel. When hal first came along I added a custom .fdi file for the trackball by adapting the settings I formerly put in the InputDevice section in my old xorg.conf (where it should have stayed). Now that hal has gone, I've adapted the hal settings, with help from Peter's blog, back to xorg.conf but with some important adjustments. Here is my original (pre-hal) mouse config from xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse- note the old driver Option Protocol auto --- this is now redundant Option Device /dev/input/mice --- now redundant Option Emulate3Buttons Option EmulateWheel - because I have no wheel Option EmulateWheelButton 8 new default is 4 EndSection My new (post-hal) version: Section InputClass - note the new word Class, not Device Identifier trackball - can be anything you want MatchProduct ImExPS -*new*. Matches the product name! # Driver evdev --- this is redundant so I removed it. Option AutoServerLayout on --- see Peter's blog Option Emulate3Buttons on Option EmulateWheel on Option EmulateWheelButton 8 --- change the default EndSection If you have no InputDevice sections (many people no longer need them) then evdev will automatically discover and configure your keyboard and mouse without being asked, applying the xorg-server defaults. (That's why I deleted the Driver evedev from my config.) Only if the defaults are wrong for your machine do you need to change them using the stuff I outlined above. At first I tried using the old mouse driver in the old way, but it seems to fight with evdev over who's in charge and between the two of them I got error messages galore and the mouse didn't work right. The nice thing about the new InputClass thing is that you can have as many such sections as you want, each one being specific for an individual mouse or keyboard -- note the MatchProduct keyword picks out my trackball mouse specifically and doesn't prevent me from using my simpler wheelmouse if I want to, where the default settings would 'just work'. Enough for now.
[gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
Hi, I have bought myself a Christmas present, a new shiny hard disk. Now I want to copy my old Gentoo system to my new disk like this: 1.) boot with gentoo boot cd 2.) mount my old system ind /old ( / in one partition, /home, /usr, /var, /tmp and /opt in lvm2 volumes and /boot on it's own partition) 3.) mount my new disk ind /new (just 2 partitions, 1 for / and 1 for /boot) 4.) copy from /old to /new 5.) modify fstab and prepare grub 6.) reboot Concerning step 4: what is the best copy command? I tried with cp -a /old/* /new but got some problems in /home. My user dir got the wrong permissions (I d'ont know, if this is in some way connected with /home being a mount point). Of course this could be the same in other dirs. Is there a better method? I read years ago on this list about using tar with this (piping the tar output into a second tar command, which extracts the files to their final destination). Are there other tools? Or did I use cp in a wrong way? Regards Marc
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
Am 27.12.2010 16:20, schrieb Marc Blumentritt: Hi, I have bought myself a Christmas present, a new shiny hard disk. Now I want to copy my old Gentoo system to my new disk like this: 1.) boot with gentoo boot cd 2.) mount my old system ind /old ( / in one partition, /home, /usr, /var, /tmp and /opt in lvm2 volumes and /boot on it's own partition) 3.) mount my new disk ind /new (just 2 partitions, 1 for / and 1 for /boot) 4.) copy from /old to /new 5.) modify fstab and prepare grub 6.) reboot Concerning step 4: what is the best copy command? I tried with cp -a /old/* /new but got some problems in /home. My user dir got the wrong permissions (I d'ont know, if this is in some way connected with /home being a mount point). Of course this could be the same in other dirs. Is there a better method? I read years ago on this list about using tar with this (piping the tar output into a second tar command, which extracts the files to their final destination). Are there other tools? Or did I use cp in a wrong way? Regards Marc http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Custom_Stage4
[gentoo-user] Re: Best way to copy /* ?
Marc Blumentritt, Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:20:55 +0100: Hi, I have bought myself a Christmas present, a new shiny hard disk. Now I want to copy my old Gentoo system to my new disk like this: 1.) boot with gentoo boot cd 2.) mount my old system ind /old ( / in one partition, /home, /usr, /var, /tmp and /opt in lvm2 volumes and /boot on it's own partition) 3.) mount my new disk ind /new (just 2 partitions, 1 for / and 1 for /boot) 4.) copy from /old to /new 5.) modify fstab and prepare grub 6.) reboot Concerning step 4: what is the best copy command? I tried with cp -a /old/* /new but got some problems in /home. My user dir got the wrong permissions (I d'ont know, if this is in some way connected with /home being a mount point). Of course this could be the same in other dirs. Is there a better method? I read years ago on this list about using tar with this (piping the tar output into a second tar command, which extracts the files to their final destination). Are there other tools? Or did I use cp in a wrong way? Regards Marc Try rsync -auD --verbose --progress --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys -- exclude=/dev /old/ /new/ and then copy over /dev/console, /dev/tty and/or any other /devices Lubos
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:20:55 +0100 Marc Blumentritt marc.blumentr...@arcor.de wrote: Hi, I have bought myself a Christmas present, a new shiny hard disk. Now I want to copy my old Gentoo system to my new disk like this: 1.) boot with gentoo boot cd 2.) mount my old system ind /old ( / in one partition, /home, /usr, /var, /tmp and /opt in lvm2 volumes and /boot on it's own partition) 3.) mount my new disk ind /new (just 2 partitions, 1 for / and 1 for /boot) 4.) copy from /old to /new 5.) modify fstab and prepare grub 6.) reboot Concerning step 4: what is the best copy command? I tried with cp -a /old/* /new but got some problems in /home. My user dir got the wrong permissions (I d'ont know, if this is in some way connected with /home being a mount point). Of course this could be the same in other dirs. Is there a better method? I read years ago on this list about using tar with this (piping the tar output into a second tar command, which extracts the files to their final destination). Are there other tools? Or did I use cp in a wrong way? I'd just use rsync.
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On 27. 12. 2010 16:20, Marc Blumentritt wrote: want to copy my old Gentoo system to my new disk like this: ... cp -a /old/* /new Personally, I would use dump/restore (if you use ext3), and you do not need to worry about permissions, links, etc. Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
[gentoo-user] 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
Hi all, I am waiting for a new PC... motherboard Asus P6X58D-E Intel Core i7 950 4Go DDR Gforce GT240 I use Gentoo for nearly 8 years, and of course, it will be Gentoo on that new pc. Besides desktop working, i am going to study and produce some image and video synthesis. I have some questions : 32 bits or 64 bits ? advantages and inconvenients ? What CFLAGS have i to choose and what about kernel settings (Processor type and features) ? Thank you very much for your advices, Cheers, -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:20:30 +, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I'd just use rsync. +1 -- Neil Bothwick Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jacques Montier
jacques.mont...@numericable.fr wrote:
Hi all,
I am waiting for a new PC...
motherboard Asus P6X58D-E
Intel Core i7 950
4Go DDR
Gforce GT240
I use Gentoo for nearly 8 years, and of course, it will be Gentoo on
that new pc.
Besides desktop working, i am going to study and produce some image and
video synthesis.
I have some questions :
32 bits or 64 bits ? advantages and inconvenients ?
What CFLAGS have i to choose and what about kernel settings (Processor
type and features) ?
Thank you very much for your advices,
Cheers,
--
Jacques
Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/
I cannot really recommend what I'm using and I certainly don't
consider this advice but I'm happy to share it. Note that in general I
tend to keep use flags limited in make.conf and then add them to
packages I emerge.
The processor is an Intel i7-980x, ATI 5770 VGA.
I think this conversation could result in interesting learning. (For
me anyway!) If there are things that improve performance then we'd all
like to be better educated.
Cheers,
Mark
m...@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/make.conf
# Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more
# detailed example.
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -pipe
#Safe CFlags for the Core-i7 (web info) saved for reference
#CFLAGS=-march=core2 -msse4 -mcx16 -msahf -O2 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
# WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly.
# Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing.
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
# These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the
# profile used for building.
#FEATURES=buildpkg parallel-fetch userfetch
USE=nptl nptlonly -ipv6 fortran unicode -hal dbus X -bluetooth
-esound -timidity -cups -java gnome gstreamer kde qt4 qt3support -arts
-eds pngi policykit
MAKEOPTS=-j9
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/
SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y
INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse keyboard
VIDEO_CARDS=radeon fbdev vmware
ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel
LINGUAS=en
ACCEPT_LICENSE=dlj-1.1 PUEL AdobeFlash-10.1
source /var/lib/layman/make.conf
m...@c2stable ~ $
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:20:30 +, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I'd just use rsync. +1 What flags? - Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: Best way to copy /* ?
Mark Knecht wrote: What flags? At least -avHAX -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
and all those questions have been discussed to death on this mailing list and the gentoo-amd64 list. How about an archive plunge?
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
if you don't use ACL (and if you don't know what I am talking about, you don't use them): cp -auv
Re: [gentoo-user] 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
Jacques Montier wrote: Hi all, I am waiting for a new PC... motherboard Asus P6X58D-E Intel Core i7 950 4Go DDR Gforce GT240 I use Gentoo for nearly 8 years, and of course, it will be Gentoo on that new pc. Besides desktop working, i am going to study and produce some image and video synthesis. I have some questions : 32 bits or 64 bits ? advantages and inconvenients ? What CFLAGS have i to choose and what about kernel settings (Processor type and features) ? Thank you very much for your advices, Cheers, -- Jacques Site webhttps://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ I just built me a new rig so I just went through the same thing. This is how I did mine. I booted a CD/DVD and used lspci -k | grep driver to list the drivers in use. That helps a lot. With that, you can use the search feature when doing the kernel config. I went with 64 bit and used a miltilib profile. So far, everything is working fine. All my usual websites are working and everything. This is my USE flags: USE=-a52 -acl acpi alsa -arts automount auto-hinter avahi -bluetooth -branding bzip2 cddb cdr chroot cleartype clucene corefonts -crypt cups curl dbus -doc dri -dts dvd dvdr -eds escreen esd exif fdftk -fftw -gcj gif gimp gkrellm -gnome gnutls gphoto2 gtk hal hbci hddtemp ipv6 -jabber -jingle java javascript jbig jpeg2k justify kde libwww logrotate loop-aes mng mplayer mp3 mdnsresponder-compat -musepack mysql nls nsplugin ofx offensive opengl -oss -otr parport pdf policykit ppds ppp qt3 qt3support qt4 sasl seamonkey semantic-desktop *smp* -sqlite -sqlite3 syslog tcl -theora *threads* tiff tk truetype type1 udev usb -v41 webkit win32codecs wma wmf X aml yahoo -xulrunner zeroconf *mmx sse sse2 3dnowext 3dnow* I put the ones that I changed in bold for you. Don't copy and paste that since the * may mess up portage. Since this list is supposed to be text only, I had to make them bold with the *. Since you are using a nvidia card, read this too. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118109 Basically, enable CONFIG_SYSVIPC in the kernel. The nvidia driver won't load without that. I have the following built into my kernel: Symmetric multi-processing support Enable MPS table AMD IOMMU support MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support Preemption Model (Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)) There are others but I think that is all that is different. That get you started? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about SATA and hot plugging.
On Thursday 16 December 2010 12:42:06 Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: OK. I'm not going to argue the point. All I know is this, the cable that came with the case will plug into any SATA connector on my mobo. There is nothing marking a eSATA port on there. There's nothing to argue. On your motherboard all ports are eSATA compatible. On my DH55HC only two of the 6 are eSATA compatible: is that written in the manual or are you just making that up? because for a lot of boards, all connectors are compatible and the ones with a different colour are just connected to an additional controller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: if you don't use ACL (and if you don't know what I am talking about, you don't use them): cp -auv Maybe cp -auvx ? Just asking, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
Thank you for your answers. Ok Volker, i am going to the archive ;-) Cheers, -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ Le 27/12/2010 18:27, Dale a gentiment tapote: Jacques Montier wrote: Hi all, I am waiting for a new PC... motherboard Asus P6X58D-E Intel Core i7 950 4Go DDR Gforce GT240 I use Gentoo for nearly 8 years, and of course, it will be Gentoo on that new pc. Besides desktop working, i am going to study and produce some image and video synthesis. I have some questions : 32 bits or 64 bits ? advantages and inconvenients ? What CFLAGS have i to choose and what about kernel settings (Processor type and features) ? Thank you very much for your advices, Cheers, -- Jacques Site webhttps://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ I just built me a new rig so I just went through the same thing. This is how I did mine. I booted a CD/DVD and used lspci -k | grep driver to list the drivers in use. That helps a lot. With that, you can use the search feature when doing the kernel config. I went with 64 bit and used a miltilib profile. So far, everything is working fine. All my usual websites are working and everything. This is my USE flags: USE=-a52 -acl acpi alsa -arts automount auto-hinter avahi -bluetooth -branding bzip2 cddb cdr chroot cleartype clucene corefonts -crypt cups curl dbus -doc dri -dts dvd dvdr -eds escreen esd exif fdftk -fftw -gcj gif gimp gkrellm -gnome gnutls gphoto2 gtk hal hbci hddtemp ipv6 -jabber -jingle java javascript jbig jpeg2k justify kde libwww logrotate loop-aes mng mplayer mp3 mdnsresponder-compat -musepack mysql nls nsplugin ofx offensive opengl -oss -otr parport pdf policykit ppds ppp qt3 qt3support qt4 sasl seamonkey semantic-desktop *smp* -sqlite -sqlite3 syslog tcl -theora *threads* tiff tk truetype type1 udev usb -v41 webkit win32codecs wma wmf X aml yahoo -xulrunner zeroconf *mmx sse sse2 3dnowext 3dnow* I put the ones that I changed in bold for you. Don't copy and paste that since the * may mess up portage. Since this list is supposed to be text only, I had to make them bold with the *. Since you are using a nvidia card, read this too. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118109 Basically, enable CONFIG_SYSVIPC in the kernel. The nvidia driver won't load without that. I have the following built into my kernel: Symmetric multi-processing support Enable MPS table AMD IOMMU support MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support Preemption Model (Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)) There are others but I think that is all that is different. That get you started? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: if you don't use ACL (and if you don't know what I am talking about, you don't use them): cp -auv The -u part can save time but I did run into trouble with that once. I never did figure out why but rm -rfv everything and then doing a cp -av fixed it. Maybe it was a fluke but who knows. Also, if he is copying to a freshly partitioned drive, there shouldn't be anything there to update anyway so it will still copy everything. Your mileage may vary tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about SATA and hot plugging.
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 16 December 2010 12:42:06 Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: OK. I'm not going to argue the point. All I know is this, the cable that came with the case will plug into any SATA connector on my mobo. There is nothing marking a eSATA port on there. There's nothing to argue. On your motherboard all ports are eSATA compatible. On my DH55HC only two of the 6 are eSATA compatible: is that written in the manual or are you just making that up? because for a lot of boards, all connectors are compatible and the ones with a different colour are just connected to an additional controller. It is written in the manual. As you seemingly will never believe this coming from me, for who knows what reason, here's a link at NewEgg. Check the details tab yourself for confirmation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121397cm_re=DH55-_-13-121-397-_-Product Jeez... Over and out, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On Monday 27 December 2010 09:38:42 Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: if you don't use ACL (and if you don't know what I am talking about, you don't use them): cp -auv Maybe cp -auvx ? Just asking, Mark if you are copying a life-sytem -x is needed. Indeed. But if you boot from a cd and mount source and destination on different mount points x is not needed.
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:20:02 +0100, John wrote about [gentoo-user]
xorg-server:
I have just upgraded to xorg-server 1.9.2
but unfortunately my keyboard is not recognising gb layout
You have at least 2 courses of action:
1) Add a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
# A rule to define our keyboard layout.
KERNEL==event*, ENV{ID_INPUT_KEYBOARD}==?*, ENV{xkblayout}=gb,
ENV{xkbmodel}=pc105
2) Add a configuration file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
# Configuration for evdev-controlled input devices.
Section InputClass
Identifier keyboard
Driver evdev
Option XkbLayout gb
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
MatchIsKeyboard on
EndSection
Section InputClass
Identifier pointer
Driver evdev
MatchIsPointer on
EndSection
I used both, just to be sure, to be sure.
--
Regards,
Dave [RLU #314465]
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Monday 27 December 2010 09:38:42 Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: if you don't use ACL (and if you don't know what I am talking about, you don't use them): cp -auv Maybe cp -auvx ? Just asking, Mark if you are copying a life-sytem -x is needed. Indeed. But if you boot from a cd and mount source and destination on different mount points x is not needed. Ah, good point. I wasn't thinking about 'live' so much as just a complicated system with multiple hard drives/partitions. For instance, copying /home where here are links to other partitions for /home/users1, /home/user2, etc. I wouldn't want to copy those other users along with /home/user3 that resides on the /home partition physically. Thanks for the clarification, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about SATA and hot plugging.
On Monday 27 December 2010 09:45:34 Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 16 December 2010 12:42:06 Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: OK. I'm not going to argue the point. All I know is this, the cable that came with the case will plug into any SATA connector on my mobo. There is nothing marking a eSATA port on there. There's nothing to argue. On your motherboard all ports are eSATA compatible. On my DH55HC only two of the 6 are eSATA compatible: is that written in the manual or are you just making that up? because for a lot of boards, all connectors are compatible and the ones with a different colour are just connected to an additional controller. It is written in the manual. As you seemingly will never believe this coming from me, for who knows what reason, here's a link at NewEgg. Check the details tab yourself for confirmation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121397cm_re=DH55-_ -13-121-397-_-Product thanks. So you own a shit board. I feel for you.
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:58:26 +
David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:20:02 +0100, John wrote about [gentoo-user]
xorg-server:
I have just upgraded to xorg-server 1.9.2
but unfortunately my keyboard is not recognising gb layout
You have at least 2 courses of action:
1) Add a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
# A rule to define our keyboard layout.
KERNEL==event*, ENV{ID_INPUT_KEYBOARD}==?*, ENV{xkblayout}=gb,
ENV{xkbmodel}=pc105
2) Add a configuration file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
# Configuration for evdev-controlled input devices.
Section InputClass
Identifier keyboard
Driver evdev
Option XkbLayout gb
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
MatchIsKeyboard on
EndSection
Section InputClass
Identifier pointer
Driver evdev
MatchIsPointer on
EndSection
I used both, just to be sure, to be sure.
Have tried all suggestions and all works ok now.
Should we still be using xorg.conf as a few years
ago or not using a xorg.conf file unless we have to?
Thanks
--
John D Maunder
j...@articwolf.myzen.co.uk
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:45:01 -0600, Dale wrote: cp -auv The -u part can save time but I did run into trouble with that once. I never did figure out why but rm -rfv everything and then doing a cp -av fixed it. Maybe it was a fluke but who knows. Also, if he is copying to a freshly partitioned drive, there shouldn't be anything there to update anyway so it will still copy everything. You've just explained why rsync is a better choice. -- Neil Bothwick ... I just forgot to increment the counter, Tom said, nonplussed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:45:21 +, John wrote: Should we still be using xorg.conf as a few years ago or not using a xorg.conf file unless we have to? Or use files in xorg.conf.d, which makes maintenance easier. -- Neil Bothwick SCSI: System Can't See It signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 3Com PCMCIA network card not recognised
On Tuesday 14 December 2010 20:05:01 Bill Longman wrote: On 12/13/2010 07:17 PM, Stroller wrote: What do you get in log messages and dmesg when you compile CONFIG_PCMCIA_3C589=m and run modprobe -v Exactly the same thing. If I `modprobe -v 3c589_cs lsmod | grep -i 3c` I can see the module loaded, but I see exactly the same single line of text (and nothing more) when I plug the card in; the card is not shown in `ifconfig -a`. It doesn't make any difference if I load the module before plugging the card in or afterwards. The only remaining things I can think to do are to `make clean` before compiling my kernel and trying the exact .config kernel version from the system rescue CD. I'm not optimistic of those, however - I still think I'm likely overlooking something stupid. Try another kernel branch? Vanilla sources? Etc Stroller, have you had any success with this problem using the systemrescue CD kernel config? Looking at the configs you posted I can't see anything amiss. I assume that you have also checked that the necessary symlink is pointing to /etc/init.d/net.lo ? If the NIC in question is recognised as eth1 then something like this would be needed: cd /etc/init.d ln -s net.lo net.eth1 Finally, check that you have emerged sys-apps/pcmciautils and reboot for good measure. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
On Monday 27 December 2010 19:20:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:45:21 +, John wrote: Should we still be using xorg.conf as a few years ago or not using a xorg.conf file unless we have to? Or use files in xorg.conf.d, which makes maintenance easier. The xorg 1.9 has not behaved very nicely on my laptops, while it has been trouble free on my desktops. It seems that the settings in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf cause evdev to capture the touchpad and keyboard devices and leave no chance to synaptics and kbd drivers (there's also a bug with the synaptics driver which is worked around by adding MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event* in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf). The solution I found was to add: Option AllowEmptyInput off in Section ServerLayout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then comment out the touchpad and keyboard sections of the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf file. After that was taken care of, the keyboard settings in xorg.conf and the synaptics settings in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf started being recognised. This is my /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf: Section InputClass Identifier touchpad catchall Driver synaptics MatchIsTouchpad on MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event* Option VertEdgeScroll true Option HorizEdgeScroll true Option TapButton1 1 Option ClickButton1 1 Option VertTwoFingerScroll true Option HorizTwoFingerScroll true Option AccelFactor 0.0010 EndSection -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Best way to copy /* ?
Am 27.12.2010 18:05, schrieb Remy Blank: Mark Knecht wrote: What flags? At least -avHAX I just run this as root (as a test while running my old system): rsync -avHAX --progress /home/ /new/ After a few seconds I canceled this with ctrl-c and got this result: hive new # ls -lah /home/ total 44K drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4.0K May 2 2009 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4.0K Dec 27 17:59 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 20 2007 .keep drwx-- 2 root root 16K Aug 18 2007 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 81 marc users 4.0K Dec 27 21:07 marc drwx-- 6 root root 4.0K Dec 11 20:33 root_dev drwxr-xr-x 4 marc root 4.0K Sep 7 2007 virtualbox hive new # ls -lah /new/ total 24K drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4.0K May 2 2009 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4.0K Dec 27 17:59 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 20 2007 .keep drwx-- 2 root root 4.0K Aug 18 2007 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 81 marc users 4.0K Dec 27 21:13 marc drwx-- 2 root root 4.0K Dec 27 21:13 root_dev drwx-- 2 root root 4.0K Dec 27 21:13 virtualbox Have a look at ownership an permissions of virtualbox! Another problem: hive new # ls -lah /new/marc/ total 584K drwxr-xr-x 81 marc users 4.0K Dec 27 21:13 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4.0K May 2 2009 .. [...] drwx-- 2 root root 4.0K Dec 27 21:13 Bilder [...] drwx-- 2 root root 4.0K Dec 27 21:13 Dateien [...] drwx-- 2 root root 4.0K Dec 27 21:13 Desktop [...] Originally all this dirs are owned by marc:users or marc:marc. I have no clue at all what is happening here! My home partition is ext3 mounted with these options (from fstab): noatime,user_xattr My new partition is ext4 mounted with no special options. Any ideas? Marc
[gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
Hello everyone, it's two days i'm struggling to get a decent video quality on a fresh gentoo install. i have an ATI mobility HD5650 on a laptop. i've set VIDEO_CARD=radeon on /etc/make.conf and emerge xf86-video-ati and radeon-ucode i've also followed hints from here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml but i still get a very poor quality on images on the web, and can't run secondlife (the heaviest 3d program i use) i'm using the X server with no config file also, eselect opengl list shows only xorg-x11 in the list. can anyone point me to an howto or give me some ideas on what can i do to fix this problem? Davide
[gentoo-user] Re: Best way to copy /* ?
Marc Blumentritt wrote: Have a look at ownership an permissions of virtualbox! rsync sets the mtime and permissions of directories *after* recursing into them. So if you interrupted the process while it was copying the contents of virtualbox, the permissions of that directory haven't been set yet. -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:45:01 -0600, Dale wrote: cp -auv The -u part can save time but I did run into trouble with that once. I never did figure out why but rm -rfv everything and then doing a cp -av fixed it. Maybe it was a fluke but who knows. Also, if he is copying to a freshly partitioned drive, there shouldn't be anything there to update anyway so it will still copy everything. You've just explained why rsync is a better choice. It may be better but my point was that I once had problems with the -u option. It was a freshly formatted drive so no idea why the -u would have even mattered since it has to copy everything over anyway. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 21:30:01 +0100, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server: It seems that the settings in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf cause evdev to capture the touchpad and keyboard devices and leave no chance to synaptics and kbd drivers (there's also a bug with the synaptics driver which is worked around by adding MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event* in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf). This is because the 10-evdev.conf file is processed first. This is my /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf: Try renaming 10-evdev.conf to 55-evdev.conf. This will let the synaptics driver have first look at the hardware. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Davide Carnovale francesco.davide.carnov...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, it's two days i'm struggling to get a decent video quality on a fresh gentoo install. i have an ATI mobility HD5650 on a laptop. i've set VIDEO_CARD=radeon on /etc/make.conf and emerge xf86-video-ati and radeon-ucode i've also followed hints from here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml but i still get a very poor quality on images on the web, and can't run secondlife (the heaviest 3d program i use) i'm using the X server with no config file also, eselect opengl list shows only xorg-x11 in the list. can anyone point me to an howto or give me some ideas on what can i do to fix this problem? Davide Hi Davide, Can you better define 'decent video quality'? I've got a Radeon HD 5770 on this system installed about 6 month ago. I do use a xorg.conf file. (xorg-server-1.9, machine is mostly stable + a few testing packages) I don't emerge radeon-ucode for my card. If I know what you're doing I can look here and compare. Feel free to contact me offline for specific info if it helps. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
by decent video quality i mean, that i see the images with a very low resoution (pixelated) and i can't play a video (avi file) as the framerate is too low. also 3d programs doesn't work (i've tested only second life so far) i don't need anything funky, just a normal config. are you using the ati drivers or the xorg ones? can you please share your xorg config file? BTW i'm using xorg-server-1.7.7-r1 can that be the problem? D 2010/12/27 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Davide Carnovale francesco.davide.carnov...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, it's two days i'm struggling to get a decent video quality on a fresh gentoo install. i have an ATI mobility HD5650 on a laptop. i've set VIDEO_CARD=radeon on /etc/make.conf and emerge xf86-video-ati and radeon-ucode i've also followed hints from here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml but i still get a very poor quality on images on the web, and can't run secondlife (the heaviest 3d program i use) i'm using the X server with no config file also, eselect opengl list shows only xorg-x11 in the list. can anyone point me to an howto or give me some ideas on what can i do to fix this problem? Davide Hi Davide, Can you better define 'decent video quality'? I've got a Radeon HD 5770 on this system installed about 6 month ago. I do use a xorg.conf file. (xorg-server-1.9, machine is mostly stable + a few testing packages) I don't emerge radeon-ucode for my card. If I know what you're doing I can look here and compare. Feel free to contact me offline for specific info if it helps. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
On Monday 27 December 2010 22:17:50 Davide Carnovale wrote: Hello everyone, it's two days i'm struggling to get a decent video quality on a fresh gentoo install. i have an ATI mobility HD5650 on a laptop. i've set VIDEO_CARD=radeon on /etc/make.conf and emerge xf86-video-ati and radeon-ucode i've also followed hints from here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml and here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml but i still get a very poor quality on images on the web, and can't run secondlife (the heaviest 3d program i use) i'm using the X server with no config file also, eselect opengl list shows only xorg-x11 in the list. can anyone point me to an howto or give me some ideas on what can i do to fix this problem? Davide rm xorg.conf emerge ati-drivers follow instructions.
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Davide Carnovale francesco.davide.carnov...@gmail.com wrote: by decent video quality i mean, that i see the images with a very low resoution (pixelated) and i can't play a video (avi file) as the framerate is too low. also 3d programs doesn't work (i've tested only second life so far) i don't need anything funky, just a normal config. are you using the ati drivers or the xorg ones? can you please share your xorg config file? BTW i'm using xorg-server-1.7.7-r1 can that be the problem? I am using the xorg drivers actually. I have no problems playing video from Hulu in Linux or NetFlix in vmware/virtualbox. Graphics are fine for me. I'm not sure if 3D works at all with the xorg ATI driver. I have no need for it and haven't tried, but I keep thinking I should. Basically, the machine more than meets my needs so no need to mess around with it. xorg.conf attached. - Mark c2stable ~ # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load extmod Load glx Load dri EndSection Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon #Option monitor-VGA1 Samsung2333 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Samsung2333 VendorName Samsung ModelName2333 Option PreferredMode 1920x1080 HorizSync30-75 VertRefresh 56-61 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorSamsung2333 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier cruncher Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection c2stable ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
Volker, my card should not be supported by the ati-drivers package as it's too old. actually i tried emerging them and the xserver just hang on boot. are you sure that is the right way to go? can you link me the instructions i should follow please? Mark, i'm giving you're config a spin now, merging it with my autogenerated one (for monitor etc...) thanks a lot! will let you know if it works D 2010/12/27 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Davide Carnovale francesco.davide.carnov...@gmail.com wrote: by decent video quality i mean, that i see the images with a very low resoution (pixelated) and i can't play a video (avi file) as the framerate is too low. also 3d programs doesn't work (i've tested only second life so far) i don't need anything funky, just a normal config. are you using the ati drivers or the xorg ones? can you please share your xorg config file? BTW i'm using xorg-server-1.7.7-r1 can that be the problem? I am using the xorg drivers actually. I have no problems playing video from Hulu in Linux or NetFlix in vmware/virtualbox. Graphics are fine for me. I'm not sure if 3D works at all with the xorg ATI driver. I have no need for it and haven't tried, but I keep thinking I should. Basically, the machine more than meets my needs so no need to mess around with it. xorg.conf attached. - Mark c2stable ~ # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load extmod Load glx Load dri EndSection Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon #Option monitor-VGA1 Samsung2333 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Samsung2333 VendorName Samsung ModelName2333 Option PreferredMode 1920x1080 HorizSync30-75 VertRefresh 56-61 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorSamsung2333 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier cruncher Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection c2stable ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server
On Monday 27 December 2010 21:39:42 David W Noon wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 21:30:01 +0100, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server: It seems that the settings in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf cause evdev to capture the touchpad and keyboard devices and leave no chance to synaptics and kbd drivers (there's also a bug with the synaptics driver which is worked around by adding MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event* in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf). This is because the 10-evdev.conf file is processed first. This is my /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf: Try renaming 10-evdev.conf to 55-evdev.conf. This will let the synaptics driver have first look at the hardware. Thanks, I'll give that a spin, but it wouldn't fix the keyboard problem though. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
On Monday 27 December 2010 23:23:32 Davide Carnovale wrote: Volker, my card should not be supported by the ati-drivers package as it's too old. wtf? A 5650 is RECENT and well supported by the ati-driver package. actually i tried emerging them and the xserver just hang on boot. are you sure that is the right way to go? can you link me the instructions i should follow please? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml you probably forgot to run eselect opengl set ati Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection you can nuke everything above Section Module Load extmod Load glx Load dri EndSection that section too. So far everything would have been autoloaded. Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection unneccessary Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard EndSection ok Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection ok Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection so not needed Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon #Option monitor-VGA1 Samsung2333 EndSection ok (beware.. if you use ati drivers) Section Monitor Identifier Samsung2333 VendorName Samsung ModelName2333 Option PreferredMode 1920x1080 HorizSync30-75 VertRefresh 56-61 EndSection last three lines not needed... Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorSamsung2333 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection EndSection all that stuff.. is really not needed. Section ServerLayout Identifier cruncher Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection ok. c2stable ~ # just as example, my xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files EndSection Section Module Load evdev Load v4l EndSection Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false Option Xinerama off Option AllowEmptyInput off EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver evdev Option CorePointer Option Name Logitech, Inc. MX610 Laser Cordless Mouse EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver evdev Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel evdev Option XkbLayout de Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp EndSection Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 Option VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver Option ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor Option DPMS true EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx Option Monitor-DFP1 0-DFP1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Relocating notification popup KDE-4.5
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:35 on Tuesday 30 November 2010, Alex Schuster did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon writes: Activities. wtf are those? I tink they are really cool, although I don't use them, and probably never will. But I'm not the average user. I have six virtual desktops (current screenshots are at http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2010-11-11/ ), each one has its purpose. For each window you can define the desktop it will run on. You change the desktop, and you get new windows displayed, while the plasmoids stay the same. With activities it's the other way around. You switch the activity, and the windows stay the same, but you get different plasmoids. That's a decent explanation, thanks a lot. I can see how some folks would like that and why it's been coded. In case you're still interested, this blog entry has some more information on activities: http://chani.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/activity-oriented-vs-application-oriented-workspaces/ It also covers differences in Gnome's and KDE's approach to this activity stuff. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
Mark, your config didn't helped me, thanks anyway =) Volker, my bad, you're right, i misread the supported cards and i thought HD 6000 and above were supported, while it is R600 and above. So i'll go again into the process of installing the ati driver and will pay more attention to all the steps now. thanks also for the config file walkthrough will let you know if i'll fix this. D 2010/12/27 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com On Monday 27 December 2010 23:23:32 Davide Carnovale wrote: Volker, my card should not be supported by the ati-drivers package as it's too old. wtf? A 5650 is RECENT and well supported by the ati-driver package. actually i tried emerging them and the xserver just hang on boot. are you sure that is the right way to go? can you link me the instructions i should follow please? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml you probably forgot to run eselect opengl set ati Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection you can nuke everything above Section Module Load extmod Load glx Load dri EndSection that section too. So far everything would have been autoloaded. Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection unneccessary Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard EndSection ok Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection ok Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection so not needed Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon #Option monitor-VGA1 Samsung2333 EndSection ok (beware.. if you use ati drivers) Section Monitor Identifier Samsung2333 VendorName Samsung ModelName2333 Option PreferredMode 1920x1080 HorizSync30-75 VertRefresh 56-61 EndSection last three lines not needed... Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorSamsung2333 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection EndSection all that stuff.. is really not needed. Section ServerLayout Identifier cruncher Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection ok. c2stable ~ # just as example, my xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files EndSection Section Module Load evdev Load v4l EndSection Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false Option Xinerama off Option AllowEmptyInput off EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver evdev Option CorePointer Option Name Logitech, Inc. MX610 Laser Cordless Mouse EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver evdev Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel evdev Option XkbLayout de Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp EndSection Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 Option VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver Option ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor Option DPMS true EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx Option Monitor-DFP1 0-DFP1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
On Tuesday 28 December 2010 00:10:03 Davide Carnovale wrote: Mark, your config didn't helped me, thanks anyway =) Volker, my bad, you're right, i misread the supported cards and i thought HD 6000 and above were supported, while it is R600 and above. So i'll go again into the process of installing the ati driver and will pay more attention to all the steps now. thanks also for the config file walkthrough will let you know if i'll fix this. make sure that: /usr/src/linux points to the right sources you run eselect opengl set ati after installing the drivers you run aticonfig --intial after installing the drivers.
Re: [gentoo-user] very poor video quality with xorg-server and ati video card
problem solved, hooray! thanks Volker for the guidance! it turned out to be a problem related to the kernel config, as i had ati dri built there, and possibly some framebuffer problems too. Thanks a lot! Davide 2010/12/28 Davide Carnovale francesco.davide.carnov...@gmail.com Mark, your config didn't helped me, thanks anyway =) Volker, my bad, you're right, i misread the supported cards and i thought HD 6000 and above were supported, while it is R600 and above. So i'll go again into the process of installing the ati driver and will pay more attention to all the steps now. thanks also for the config file walkthrough will let you know if i'll fix this. D 2010/12/27 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com On Monday 27 December 2010 23:23:32 Davide Carnovale wrote: Volker, my card should not be supported by the ati-drivers package as it's too old. wtf? A 5650 is RECENT and well supported by the ati-driver package. actually i tried emerging them and the xserver just hang on boot. are you sure that is the right way to go? can you link me the instructions i should follow please? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml you probably forgot to run eselect opengl set ati Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection you can nuke everything above Section Module Load extmod Load glx Load dri EndSection that section too. So far everything would have been autoloaded. Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection unneccessary Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard EndSection ok Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection ok Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection so not needed Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon #Option monitor-VGA1 Samsung2333 EndSection ok (beware.. if you use ati drivers) Section Monitor Identifier Samsung2333 VendorName Samsung ModelName2333 Option PreferredMode 1920x1080 HorizSync30-75 VertRefresh 56-61 EndSection last three lines not needed... Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorSamsung2333 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1920x1080 EndSubSection EndSection all that stuff.. is really not needed. Section ServerLayout Identifier cruncher Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection ok. c2stable ~ # just as example, my xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files EndSection Section Module Load evdev Load v4l EndSection Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false Option Xinerama off Option AllowEmptyInput off EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver evdev Option CorePointer Option Name Logitech, Inc. MX610 Laser Cordless Mouse EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver evdev Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel evdev Option XkbLayout de Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp EndSection Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 Option VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver Option ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor Option DPMS true EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx Option Monitor-DFP1
[gentoo-user] Re: [EXAMPLE] Configuring xorg without hal
On 12/27/2010 06:03 AM, walt wrote: ... My new (post-hal) mouse config: Section InputClass - note the new word Class, not Device Identifier trackball - can be anything you want MatchProduct ImExPS -*new*. Matches the product name! Clarification about that MatchProduct keyword: Hal and udev differ slightly in the way they identify hardware devices (is anyone surprised?). When I run 'lshal' to display all my hardware, I see this about the mouse: info.product = 'ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse' Now for the confusion. When I run 'udevadm info --export-db I see: E: PRODUCT=11/2/6/6d E: NAME=ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse Note that MatchProduct in the xorg.conf file really wants the udev NAME, *not* the udev PRODUCT. I suppose the MatchProduct keyword was selected back in the day when hal was still the boss instead of a has-been. MatchName would be much less confusing than MatchProduct. But don't hold your breath waiting for it to change.
[gentoo-user] Re: 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
On 12/27/2010 09:27 AM, Dale wrote: I went with 64 bit and used a miltilib profile. So far, everything is working fine. Dale, don't wait -- go buy a hundred lottery tickets before your luck runs out :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
walt wrote: On 12/27/2010 09:27 AM, Dale wrote: I went with 64 bit and used a miltilib profile. So far, everything is working fine. Dale, don't wait -- go buy a hundred lottery tickets before your luck runs out :) Why? Going with multilib means I can run either 32 or 64 bit code if needed. What's the point of buying a nice CPU if you are not going to use it? If I was going to run 32 bit, I should have stuck with my old rig. Please explain why this is not going to work long term? Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
On 12/27/2010 04:24 PM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 12/27/2010 09:27 AM, Dale wrote: I went with 64 bit and used a multilib profile. So far, everything is working fine. Dale, don't wait -- go buy a hundred lottery tickets before your luck runs out :) Why? Going with multilib means I can run either 32 or 64 bit code if needed. What's the point of buying a nice CPU if you are not going to use it? If I was going to run 32 bit, I should have stuck with my old rig. Please explain why this is not going to work long term? No, not the multilib part -- the everything is working fine part. It was just my bad attempt at a joke, so relax and enjoy the smooth sailing while it lasts. And a very happy and prosperous New Year to you and the whole motley gentoo crew while I'm at it :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 32 or 64 bits, CFLAGS and kernel settings ?
walt wrote: On 12/27/2010 04:24 PM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 12/27/2010 09:27 AM, Dale wrote: I went with 64 bit and used a multilib profile. So far, everything is working fine. Dale, don't wait -- go buy a hundred lottery tickets before your luck runs out :) Why? Going with multilib means I can run either 32 or 64 bit code if needed. What's the point of buying a nice CPU if you are not going to use it? If I was going to run 32 bit, I should have stuck with my old rig. Please explain why this is not going to work long term? No, not the multilib part -- the everything is working fine part. It was just my bad attempt at a joke, so relax and enjoy the smooth sailing while it lasts. And a very happy and prosperous New Year to you and the whole motley gentoo crew while I'm at it :) Whew ! Glad you was joking. I thought I had done made a boo boo. lol I do wish I would win the lottery. We don't have one where I am tho. :-( Happy New Year to you as well. Same to everyone else on the list as well. Maybe next year will be better but I'm not holding my breath. :/ Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Kernel section mismatch(es)
I'm trying to compile a hardened kernel (linux-2.6.36-hardened-r6) and the build is generating thousands (literally) of section mismatch warnings. I've copied my old .config (2.6.31, non-hardened) to the root of the source tree and did a `make oldconfig' followed by `make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y'. WTF's up with this? FWIW, I'm working on rebuilding my box and the make is within a chroot'ed environment - working through the system build process to a temporary directory tree with the intent of booting from a CD and replacing the existing filesystem with the new version. FWIW#2: Google'd `linux section mismatch' and didn't get any hits that would point to a reason for the mismatches or a solution for resolving them. -- Michael J. Barillier /// http://blackwolfinfosys.net/users/blackwolf/ _O_| ``Ignorance breeds monsters to fill up the vacancies of the soul __O| that are unoccupied by the verities of knowledge.'' OOO| -- Horace Mann
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to copy /* ?
On 12/27/2010 10:20 AM, Marc Blumentritt wrote: Hi, I have bought myself a Christmas present, a new shiny hard disk. Now I want to copy my old Gentoo system to my new disk like this: 1.) boot with gentoo boot cd 2.) mount my old system ind /old ( / in one partition, /home, /usr, /var, /tmp and /opt in lvm2 volumes and /boot on it's own partition) 3.) mount my new disk ind /new (just 2 partitions, 1 for / and 1 for /boot) 4.) copy from /old to /new 5.) modify fstab and prepare grub 6.) reboot Concerning step 4: what is the best copy command? I tried with cp -a /old/* /new This should have gotten the permissions right; -a implies --preserve=all. Not sure what happened there. The tar method you're looking for is: tar -C /old cpf - | tar -C /new xvpf - You'll probably not want to do the entire / in a single go, since /proc, /sys, and /dev (at least) should be skipped. Copy /old/sbin - /new/sbin, etc. for all of the root folders that aren't their own partitions. The rest you can do the entire mount point at once, though I'm not sure you really need to copy /tmp either. You can also use rsync, dump/restore, and probably a dozen other tools to make this work. Google for backup entire hard disk and start reading :) --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel section mismatch(es)
On 12/27/10 23:06, Michael J. Barillier wrote: I'm trying to compile a hardened kernel (linux-2.6.36-hardened-r6) and the build is generating thousands (literally) of section mismatch warnings. I've copied my old .config (2.6.31, non-hardened) to the root of the source tree and did a `make oldconfig' followed by `make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y'. WTF's up with this? FWIW, I'm working on rebuilding my box and the make is within a chroot'ed environment - working through the system build process to a temporary directory tree with the intent of booting from a CD and replacing the existing filesystem with the new version. FWIW#2: Google'd `linux section mismatch' and didn't get any hits that would point to a reason for the mismatches or a solution for resolving them. Just ignore them. They might indicate kernel bugs (like compiler warnings), but even if they did, there's nothing you could do about them. Setting CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y just gives you more info that you don't need.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Relocating notification popup KDE-4.5
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Tuesday 28 December 2010, Alex Schuster did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:35 on Tuesday 30 November 2010, Alex Schuster did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon writes: Activities. wtf are those? I tink they are really cool, although I don't use them, and probably never will. But I'm not the average user. I have six virtual desktops (current screenshots are at http://www.wonkology.org/comp/desktop/2010-11-11/ ), each one has its purpose. For each window you can define the desktop it will run on. You change the desktop, and you get new windows displayed, while the plasmoids stay the same. With activities it's the other way around. You switch the activity, and the windows stay the same, but you get different plasmoids. That's a decent explanation, thanks a lot. I can see how some folks would like that and why it's been coded. In case you're still interested, this blog entry has some more information on activities: http://chani.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/activity-oriented-vs-application-orie nted-workspaces/ It also covers differences in Gnome's and KDE's approach to this activity stuff. Good find, it does answer some questions! (especially in the comments). I tend to agree with the long post by user Fri13; to a casual observer my life and desktop looks nicely organized and everything one-to-one mapped to something else. In reality, it's just like everyone else - a mish-mash collection of stuffs that somehow makes sense in my head. So I looked long and hard at this, and found that my desktop is *taskbar- centric* - it's my primary way of organizing things. Apps are spread across 6 virtual desktops in a very ad-hoc style - amarok is on desktop 6 (where it's out of the way), kontact on desktop 2 (where it can be full screen), konsole sticky on the right hand side of all desktops (where I can see it everywhere), and all browsers usually end up on desktop 1 with large numbers of tabs each. Note there's no common method to this madness :-) Like most people, my work is never nicely categorized by Activity - it's too fluid and changeable and too subject to my mood and how I feel today. I also don't like abstracting away the specific app used for a function, I do care whether it's gwenview, okular or digiKam that's loaded an image. They are not mere apps, they are tools, and I'm always aware of what tool I'm using. There's a parallel in the real world - to cut a piece of steel in my workshop I can use any one of several tools and they are NOT interchangeable; to cut a 2 square tube to length I *do* want the angle grinder and not the hacksaw, so I chose the tool myself and do not have it handed to me by some magic selector. Apps are similar, they have their strengths and weaknesses and I usually know which one I want. So now I do understand Activities better. It can be a good idea and I'd like to see some usage experts survey it extensively to make it more obvious how it works. One function that comes to mind which I would use is to return the desktop to a prior state. I often work from home and then want my apps arranged the same way I have them at work. But for now I think I'll just continue the way I always have with a good old Unix virtual desktop setup and KDE session manager. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
