[gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
Hi, I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. Any pointers? -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Amazon-Instant video
On Tuesday 12 Feb 2013 07:32:10 Kevin Brandstatter wrote: I just got amazon prime for the instant videos (among other things) and figured i should be able to watch it on linux since its in flash. However, I have had no luck getting it to play an instant video, i've narrowed it down to videos with DRM, (because trailers play fine and DRM screws up everything) Google searches come up that it needs HAL (which is deprecated) I even managed to install HAL, and still no luck i keep getting error occurred and your player cannot be updated I have the latest flash, chrome and firefox. (tried both) Just wondering if others are having the same trouble or if someone has a solution. I do not have such an account, so cannot compare with what you're getting on your system. However, I have had success using rtmpdump and friends in the past with various flash videos, as well as youtube-dl. I do fear though that DRM may screw things up, so YMMV. This is how you can try intercepting the stream with rtmpsrv. Run as root: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 1935 -j REDIRECT rtmpsrv then try to play the video with Firefox, accepting cookies, etc. At some point if rtmpsrv is successful it will print on the terminal a very long URL. Ctrl+c to stop rtmpsrv, then remove the redirect rule: iptables -t nat -D OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 1935 -j REDIRECT and run as a plain user: rtmpdump URL If the stream URL was captured successfully you should be able to download it. youtube-dl has a number of extractors some of which may work with amazons implementation. Run 'youtube-dl --list-extractors' to list them. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to stem the flood of new packages?
On 11/02/2013 23:24, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-02-11, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: snip What new stuff did you get? As best I can remember: a handful of bluetooth stuff, openldap, consolekit, policykit, thunar, wxwidgets, libnotify, fam, a bunch of gst plugins, and another dozen or two things pulled in by those. The cause of this is your decision to switch from a generic profile to a desktop profile, albeit unwittingly. Nothing stops you from using default/linux/arch/13.0. Cheers, --Kerin
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to stem the flood of new packages?
On 12/02/2013 01:24, Grant Edwards wrote: What new stuff did you get? As best I can remember: a handful of bluetooth stuff, openldap, consolekit, policykit, thunar, wxwidgets, libnotify, fam, a bunch of gst plugins, and another dozen or two things pulled in by those. Did you change your profile to 13.0 and now have a ton of USE flags set on that were previously off? It didn't occur to me until afterwards, but yes, the new USE flags did correspond with the change to a 13.0 desktop profile. I'm now wondering if my 10.0 profile was the non-desktop generic one. When I saw all the new USE flags, my assumption was that the USE flags had just been added -- but now I'm betting they were newly enabled by the 13.0 profile. That is almost certainly the profile change to 13.0 You had a more minimal profile than a desktop one, and selected a new desktop profile. The system then worked as designed and helpfully offered you a whole bunch of new stuff. Desktop profiles are designed to provide most of what the average desktop user would want. You are a minimalist kind of guy, right? Basic wm, no frills, no semantic-desktop and other integration nonsense? I recommend you change the profile again to the desktop one's parent, probably default/linux/amd64/13.0 Then add in just the USE flags that you want. It's always easier to add what you want to a system rather than removing what you don't. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
Am Dienstag, 12. Februar 2013, 10:07:42 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: Hi, I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. Any pointers? Hi Nilesh... i just recently upgraded to an AMD8350-Bundle with the Gigabyte 78LMT- USB3 Mainboard... There were 16GB of RAM included in the bundle, not the highend-type, but as i simply wanted to have enough ressources to develop and do other things in backgroud, that one perfectly meets my requirements. There is some AMD-Chipset onboard, but as i had an older NVidia Card, im using this currently, without any problems. I really don't think there should ba any issues with mainboards that are incompatible to linux... USB3 works, SATA works, ... What else should work? regards, Jens -- jens reinemuth leonhard-eckel-siedlung 4 d-67483 edesheim mobil: +49.(0)176.63613420 mail: j...@reinemuth.info jabber: j...@jabber.reinemuth.info --
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Jens Reinemuth j...@reinemuth.info wrote: Am Dienstag, 12. Februar 2013, 10:07:42 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: Hi, I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. Any pointers? Hi Nilesh... i just recently upgraded to an AMD8350-Bundle with the Gigabyte 78LMT- USB3 Mainboard... There were 16GB of RAM included in the bundle, not the highend-type, but as i simply wanted to have enough ressources to develop and do other things in backgroud, that one perfectly meets my requirements. There is some AMD-Chipset onboard, but as i had an older NVidia Card, im using this currently, without any problems. I really don't think there should ba any issues with mainboards that are incompatible to linux... USB3 works, SATA works, ... What else should work? regards, Jens -- jens reinemuth leonhard-eckel-siedlung 4 d-67483 edesheim mobil: +49.(0)176.63613420 mail: j...@reinemuth.info jabber: j...@jabber.reinemuth.info -- I researched on various motherboard with the 9-series chipset. Everything seems to work properly on Linux. So that is ruled out. What I'm now looking for is, a motherboard with on-board GFX since a discrete GFX is going out of budget for me now. -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Jens Reinemuth j...@reinemuth.info wrote: Am Dienstag, 12. Februar 2013, 10:07:42 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: Hi, I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. Any pointers? Hi Nilesh... i just recently upgraded to an AMD8350-Bundle with the Gigabyte 78LMT- USB3 Mainboard... There were 16GB of RAM included in the bundle, not the highend-type, but as i simply wanted to have enough ressources to develop and do other things in backgroud, that one perfectly meets my requirements. There is some AMD-Chipset onboard, but as i had an older NVidia Card, im using this currently, without any problems. I really don't think there should ba any issues with mainboards that are incompatible to linux... USB3 works, SATA works, ... What else should work? regards, Jens -- jens reinemuth leonhard-eckel-siedlung 4 d-67483 edesheim mobil: +49.(0)176.63613420 mail: j...@reinemuth.info jabber: j...@jabber.reinemuth.info -- I researched on various motherboard with the 9-series chipset. Everything seems to work properly on Linux. So that is ruled out. What I'm now looking for is, a motherboard with on-board GFX since a discrete GFX is going out of budget for me now. -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com I just saw the specifications of GA-78LMT-USB3. It has integrated ATI Radeon HD 3000 and search results reveal that it works in Ubuntu (so it should in Gentoo as well). Thanks a lot man. -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On 02/12/2013 12:56:31 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I just saw the specifications of GA-78LMT-USB3. It has integrated ATI Radeon HD 3000 and search results reveal that it works in Ubuntu (so it should in Gentoo as well). Thanks a lot man. But keep in mind that the Radeon HD 3000 is a bit old and not supported by the recent ati-drivers. The lastest version working with that old graphics chip is 12.6_beta_pre897 which does work with xorg-server up to 1.12.x and the recent kernels (3.8) with some patches. But there is no promise that xorg-server 1.13.x or future kernels will be supported. I haven't tried recently but e.g. googleearth didn't play well with any other drivers in the past (at least). Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 02/12/2013 12:56:31 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I just saw the specifications of GA-78LMT-USB3. It has integrated ATI Radeon HD 3000 and search results reveal that it works in Ubuntu (so it should in Gentoo as well). Thanks a lot man. But keep in mind that the Radeon HD 3000 is a bit old and not supported by the recent ati-drivers. The lastest version working with that old graphics chip is 12.6_beta_pre897 which does work with xorg-server up to 1.12.x and the recent kernels (3.8) with some patches. But there is no promise that xorg-server 1.13.x or future kernels will be supported. I haven't tried recently but e.g. googleearth didn't play well with any other drivers in the past (at least). Helmut. That would hurt. By not supported you mean there are no bugfixes or it is buggy? -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 02/12/2013 12:56:31 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I just saw the specifications of GA-78LMT-USB3. It has integrated ATI Radeon HD 3000 and search results reveal that it works in Ubuntu (so it should in Gentoo as well). Thanks a lot man. But keep in mind that the Radeon HD 3000 is a bit old and not supported by the recent ati-drivers. The lastest version working with that old graphics chip is 12.6_beta_pre897 which does work with xorg-server up to 1.12.x and the recent kernels (3.8) with some patches. But there is no promise that xorg-server 1.13.x or future kernels will be supported. I haven't tried recently but e.g. googleearth didn't play well with any other drivers in the past (at least). Helmut. That would hurt. By not supported you mean there are no bugfixes or it is buggy? -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com It seems AMD recently released a driver for those cards http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx 21 Jan 2013 is fairly recent. -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Amazon-Instant video
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 01:32:10AM -0600, Kevin Brandstatter wrote: I just got amazon prime for the instant videos (among other things) and figured i should be able to watch it on linux since its in flash. However, I have had no luck getting it to play an instant video, i've narrowed it down to videos with DRM, (because trailers play fine and DRM screws up everything) Google searches come up that it needs HAL (which is deprecated) I even managed to install HAL, and still no luck i keep getting error occurred and your player cannot be updated I have the latest flash, chrome and firefox. (tried both) Just wondering if others are having the same trouble or if someone has a solution. -Kevin Is this attached screenshot the type of message you get? If so, you should have clicked on the link there which states Why can't I watch videos on my Chrome browser in Linux? ... and this is the message it provides: The Flash Player Plugin in Chrome removed support for Digital Rights Management (DRM) in Linux as part of the upgrade from 11.3 to 11.4. This upgrade was bundled with the latest Chrome 22 update for Linux. If you applied the Chrome update, you are no longer able to watch DRM-protected content, such as movies and TV episodes. Trailers are unaffected as they do not use DRM. To get around this issue, you can use a different browser, such as Firefox. For information on Chrome and the Flash Player plug-in, see: https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=108086. My Gentoo workstation is using firefox-18.0.1 and just updated to adobe-flash-11.2.202.262 but won't play the free instant video I tried. Since that's the latest version of flash in portage, I supposed you could try and get the later source and create a local overlay and try that. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
[gentoo-user] Re: How to stem the flood of new packages?
On 2013-02-12, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/2013 01:24, Grant Edwards wrote: It didn't occur to me until afterwards, but yes, the new USE flags did correspond with the change to a 13.0 desktop profile. I'm now wondering if my 10.0 profile was the non-desktop generic one. When I saw all the new USE flags, my assumption was that the USE flags had just been added -- but now I'm betting they were newly enabled by the 13.0 profile. That is almost certainly the profile change to 13.0 You had a more minimal profile than a desktop one, and selected a new desktop profile. The system then worked as designed and helpfully offered you a whole bunch of new stuff. Desktop profiles are designed to provide most of what the average desktop user would want. You are a minimalist kind of guy, right? Basic wm, no frills, no semantic-desktop and other integration nonsense? Yup. I recommend you change the profile again to the desktop one's parent, probably I'll give that a try. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until afterwards that I had unwittingly (some might same dim-wittingly) switched from a generic profile to a desktop profile. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Vote for ME -- I'm at well-tapered, half-cocked, gmail.comill-conceived and TAX-DEFERRED!
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On Feb 12, 2013 6:26 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 02/12/2013 12:56:31 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I just saw the specifications of GA-78LMT-USB3. It has integrated ATI Radeon HD 3000 and search results reveal that it works in Ubuntu (so it should in Gentoo as well). Thanks a lot man. But keep in mind that the Radeon HD 3000 is a bit old and not supported by the recent ati-drivers. The lastest version working with that old graphics chip is 12.6_beta_pre897 which does work with xorg-server up to 1.12.x and the recent kernels (3.8) with some patches. But there is no promise that xorg-server 1.13.x or future kernels will be supported. I haven't tried recently but e.g. googleearth didn't play well with any other drivers in the past (at least). Helmut. That would hurt. By not supported you mean there are no bugfixes or it is buggy? -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com It seems AMD recently released a driver for those cards http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx 21 Jan 2013 is fairly recent. -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com The in-kernel Radeon drivers should work great with that card as well, assuming you don't need accelerated 3d. -- Alecks from Gmail on android
Re: [gentoo-user] Amazon-Instant video
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 09:14:11AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: snip Since that's the latest version of flash in portage, I supposed you could try and get the later source and create a local overlay and try that. Should have said *earlier* source back, if not available in portage. According to the message at the website, version 11.3. Course, there's probably more of that webpage coded for the darkside, also. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Amazon-Instant video
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Kevin Brandstatter kjbrandstat...@gmail.com wrote: I just got amazon prime for the instant videos (among other things) and figured i should be able to watch it on linux since its in flash. However, I have had no luck getting it to play an instant video, i've narrowed it down to videos with DRM, (because trailers play fine and DRM screws up everything) Google searches come up that it needs HAL (which is deprecated) I even managed to install HAL, and still no luck i keep getting error occurred and your player cannot be updated I have the latest flash, chrome and firefox. (tried both) Just wondering if others are having the same trouble or if someone has a solution. Sounds like you've basically gone down the correct path. Flash on Linux is deprecated, DRM in Flash requires HAL which is deprecated. It's basically a situation that will never improve... Amazon videos did not previously use DRM, but as they attempt to compete and get more premium content, the content providers require them to use DRM, leaving us out in the cold. Not all Amazon videos use DRM but AFAIK there is no way to filter by DRM status. Adobe has a page with a DRM tester where people can attempt to play a protected video, outside of amazon: http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/flash-player-11-problems-playing.html I screwed around with trying to make Flash DRM work for a considerable amount of time and it always either crashed the plugin, crashed my browser or just plain didn't play. I finally gave up and watched it on my TV instead... If you want to get it working on your computer, your time may be better spent installing an MS Windows web browser in Wine or setting up a virtual machine with Windows... those are the only ways I've been able to get protected video like Netflix/SlingPlayer/ESPN3/etc. to work on my Linux box.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to stem the flood of new packages?
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:16:55PM +, Grant Edwards wrote On 2013-02-12, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You are a minimalist kind of guy, right? Basic wm, no frills, no semantic-desktop and other integration nonsense? Yup. I recommend you change the profile again to the desktop one's parent, probably I'll give that a try. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until afterwards that I had unwittingly (some might same dim-wittingly) switched from a generic profile to a desktop profile. USE=-* plus any flags you really need You know you want it G. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Amazon-Instant video
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:16:13AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: If you want to get it working on your computer, your time may be better spent installing an MS Windows web browser in Wine or setting up a virtual machine with Windows... those are the only ways I've been able to get protected video like Netflix/SlingPlayer/ESPN3/etc. to work on my Linux box. The computing world is still slave to Mickey$oft and Apple. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Amazon-Instant video
...probably because they agree to things such as DRM On 12/02/13 17:16, Bruce Hill wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:16:13AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: If you want to get it working on your computer, your time may be better spent installing an MS Windows web browser in Wine or setting up a virtual machine with Windows... those are the only ways I've been able to get protected video like Netflix/SlingPlayer/ESPN3/etc. to work on my Linux box. The computing world is still slave to Mickey$oft and Apple.
[gentoo-user] Re: Kaspersky Rescue Disk
Hi, Mick. Thanks for replying. You wrote: Check and remove the updates file that KRD creates on your WinXP filesystem. After the scan is completed this is no longer needed and takes up space. The KRD added a \Kaspersky Rescue Disk\ directory to C: on my hard drive that contains 58 subdirectories with 188Mb in over 100 different files. Can I delete the entire Kaspersky Rescue Disk directory after doingh a scan and rebooting into Windows?? If not, which subdirectories or files should I delete? Yes, you can add any applications you see fit, but the LiveCD/USB image will grow as a result. There'd be no problem there, since I have around 3.5Gb free space on the flash drive. However, I've noticed that KRD doesn't save anything. None of my bookmarks or configuration changes remain when I re-boot into the KRD flash drive. Also, the /portage/ folders are empty and the emerge command is missing in BASH, and I believe these are necessary for adding applications (?). The only things I've been able to save are text and htm files, because KRD puts them into folders outside the ISO and op sys folders. Also, I saw a scrolling line during the KRD flash drive boot that says something like liveusb is read-only. Maybe it's set up so that you can't change or add anything? Any ideas on how I go about adding to the ISO, or to the op sys? For example, can I somehow change the read only status to rw? And would I have to change any of the boot files, like grub.exe, ldlinux.sys, and syslinux.cfg? What do you think about the idea of re-formatting the flash drive and re-installing the Kaspersky rescueusb.iso using UNetbootin or another of the live USB installation programs that allow you to add persistence? Would that be a solution? Would KRD still function if I did that? . . . but if you want to install it permanently on the hard disk, you would be better off doing a proper installation by following the Gentoo Guide. I think I'd rather keep WindowsXP on the hard drive and run a Linux distro like Gentoo from a USB flash drive. That has the advantage of keeping me operational if my hard drive becomes infected or otherwise unoperational. (Every one of my previous laptops has gone kaput because of hard drive failures.) Maybe I'm just making trouble for myself. Since these 4Gb flash drives are now so cheap, perhaps the best thing to do is leave KRD the way it is and use another flash drive for a fully-functioning Linux distro. It seems a shame, though, not putting Gentoo on the KRD to better use. Thanks for the URL. Trouble is, it's for building a live disk with Linux, and I've only got Windows on my hard drive. Anyway, I hope you can help with the queries above. Cheers! Mike P.S. I cc'd your email address because I'm reading the list from gmane, can't reply directly to posts, and wasn't sure my email to the list address would get into the same thread.
[gentoo-user] Re: How to stem the flood of new packages?
On 2013-02-12, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:16:55PM +, Grant Edwards wrote On 2013-02-12, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You are a minimalist kind of guy, right? Basic wm, no frills, no semantic-desktop and other integration nonsense? Yup. I recommend you change the profile again to the desktop one's parent, probably I'll give that a try. Unfortunately, I didn't realize until afterwards that I had unwittingly (some might same dim-wittingly) switched from a generic profile to a desktop profile. USE=-* plus any flags you really need You know you want it G. That sounds like a good way to kill an entire weekend... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'm not an Iranian!! at I voted for Dianne gmail.comFeinstein!!
[gentoo-user] Re: Kaspersky Rescue Disk
On Tuesday 12 Feb 2013 19:01:19 Michael Sondow wrote: Hi, Mick. Thanks for replying. You wrote: Check and remove the updates file that KRD creates on your WinXP filesystem. After the scan is completed this is no longer needed and takes up space. The KRD added a \Kaspersky Rescue Disk\ directory to C: on my hard drive that contains 58 subdirectories with 188Mb in over 100 different files. Can I delete the entire Kaspersky Rescue Disk directory after doingh a scan and rebooting into Windows?? If not, which subdirectories or files should I delete? Once you finish with scanning the WinXP for viruses then then definitions are no longer needed. If you scan it again in the future using KRD, then these will be downloaded afresh. Yes, you can add any applications you see fit, but the LiveCD/USB image will grow as a result. There'd be no problem there, since I have around 3.5Gb free space on the flash drive. However, I've noticed that KRD doesn't save anything. None of my bookmarks or configuration changes remain when I re-boot into the KRD flash drive. Also, the /portage/ folders are empty and the emerge command is missing in BASH, and I believe these are necessary for adding applications (?). The KRD image was created for a particular purpose. It is not meant to be a permanent Linux installation with the ability to update itself and any applications it may include. The only things I've been able to save are text and htm files, because KRD puts them into folders outside the ISO and op sys folders. That's as intended by its creators. Also, I saw a scrolling line during the KRD flash drive boot that says something like liveusb is read-only. Maybe it's set up so that you can't change or add anything? Yes, this is correct. A live CD/USB ISO image is of course read only. Any ideas on how I go about adding to the ISO, or to the op sys? For example, can I somehow change the read only status to rw? And would I have to change any of the boot files, like grub.exe, ldlinux.sys, and syslinux.cfg? You can't change the ISO as is. You have to follow the many examples in Google for unpacking it, making your changes and then re-packaging a new ISO image which includes your changes. What do you think about the idea of re-formatting the flash drive and re-installing the Kaspersky rescueusb.iso using UNetbootin or another of the live USB installation programs that allow you to add persistence? Would that be a solution? Would KRD still function if I did that? From what I know there are problems trying to use a design intended to be used as a LiveCD/USB in place of a permanent installation. The two are not the same in design or execution. . . . but if you want to install it permanently on the hard disk, you would be better off doing a proper installation by following the Gentoo Guide. I think I'd rather keep WindowsXP on the hard drive and run a Linux distro like Gentoo from a USB flash drive. That has the advantage of keeping me operational if my hard drive becomes infected or otherwise unoperational. (Every one of my previous laptops has gone kaput because of hard drive failures.) That's why there are a myriad tools to run back ups of your critical data. Maybe I'm just making trouble for myself. Since these 4Gb flash drives are now so cheap, perhaps the best thing to do is leave KRD the way it is and use another flash drive for a fully-functioning Linux distro. It seems a shame, though, not putting Gentoo on the KRD to better use. Running an OS from a USB is going to be slow. Even on a fast USB (unless we're talking about USB3 which is faster). I suggest you consider defragging WinXP, shrinking its partition and creating new partitions to install Linux on. Thanks for the URL. Trouble is, it's for building a live disk with Linux, and I've only got Windows on my hard drive. There is the alternative of installing VirtualBox on your WinXP and then installing Linux in that. In this way you do not need to re-partition your hard drive and you can always save the VM image to a USB for backup purposes. PS. Have a look in the Knoppix forums and FAQs which explain with a LiveCD is not designed to be used as a permanent installation. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: GNOME 3.6 is not masked in Gentoo, just keyworded. Apologies for the slight thread hijack, but I've been curious if anyone knows the current state of Gnome 3 in Gentoo? I'm currently on Gnome 2, and I'm one of those weirdos who kind of likes Gnome 3 (it's not without its faults). I also prefer to stick with stable when I can, but I've been curious on how things are going with stabilization of Gnome 3. It's kind of difficult to find information about this using Google, so I thought I'd ask if any of you knew. Thanks! -- R
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kaspersky Rescue Disk
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Yes, you can add any applications you see fit, but the LiveCD/USB image will grow as a result. There'd be no problem there, since I have around 3.5Gb free space on the flash drive. However, I've noticed that KRD doesn't save anything. None of my bookmarks or configuration changes remain when I re-boot into the KRD flash drive. Also, the /portage/ folders are empty and the emerge command is missing in BASH, and I believe these are necessary for adding applications (?). The KRD image was created for a particular purpose. It is not meant to be a permanent Linux installation with the ability to update itself and any applications it may include. The only things I've been able to save are text and htm files, because KRD puts them into folders outside the ISO and op sys folders. That's as intended by its creators. Also, I saw a scrolling line during the KRD flash drive boot that says something like liveusb is read-only. Maybe it's set up so that you can't change or add anything? Yes, this is correct. A live CD/USB ISO image is of course read only. Any ideas on how I go about adding to the ISO, or to the op sys? For example, can I somehow change the read only status to rw? And would I have to change any of the boot files, like grub.exe, ldlinux.sys, and syslinux.cfg? You can't change the ISO as is. You have to follow the many examples in Google for unpacking it, making your changes and then re-packaging a new ISO image which includes your changes. What do you think about the idea of re-formatting the flash drive and re-installing the Kaspersky rescueusb.iso using UNetbootin or another of the live USB installation programs that allow you to add persistence? Would that be a solution? Would KRD still function if I did that? From what I know there are problems trying to use a design intended to be used as a LiveCD/USB in place of a permanent installation. The two are not the same in design or execution. [...] I believe there is a way to setup persistent storage. I've never done it personally, but I think tools such as unetbootin or Pendrivelinux[1] offer it. It wont work on your standard CD, of course. [1] http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ -- Alecks
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
NG == Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com writes: NG I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and NG supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard NG GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. The only boards I've seen which have an AM3 socket and onboard video have the older chipsets which lack support for 1600 MHz and 8Gig dimms or the boards intended for the opteron 3000 series. I do not know whether the latter will work with an FX. Supermicro's line of opteron 3000 boards is at: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron3000/ They seem to cost on the order of $300 w/o SAS o $400 with. Otherwise onboard graphics means gx790 boards. OTOH, it looks like a opteron 4300 chip or two with one of these boards: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron4000/ makes for a great atx or micro-atx compute box for only a bit more than one would pay for a piledriver FX chip and fx990 board. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
[gentoo-user] Re: No server profile anymore???
On 2013-02-10, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/02/2013 19:25, Jarry wrote: !!! Your current profile is deprecated and not supported anymore. !!! Use eselect profile to update your profile. !!! Please upgrade to the following profile if possible: default/linux/amd64/13.0 [...] So is server-profile not suported anymore??? I hope devs had good reason for this, but anyway a change like *this* should definitely be communicated with users in advance... [...] [1] OK, the news items, or more specifically the lack of timeous news items in advance. This is the second occurrence in recent times where devs have had to do some back-pedalling, the first was udev with it's TMPDEVFS fiasco. I myself am getting a teeny bit pissed off with this now. I think a large collection of user should pen a nice polite letter to whomever deals with such things asking for more attention to be paid to QA matters like this. +1 I have no doubts that devs have lots of work to do, but it's a rather serious situation if the difference between unstable and stable land is *not* used as an advantage when it comes to deal with situations like this and udev's kernel requirements and network rules. I guess a good rule of thumb would be: if a stabilization/profile change or introduced error message will require users to change their settings by hand, change their kernel config to match new requirements in order to have an usable system or to treat some packages/flags in a different way, this should not go forward until a news item has been prepared to notify users about it. -- Nuno Silva (aka njsg) http://njsg.sdf-eu.org/
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to stem the flood of new packages?
On Tuesday 12 February 2013 15:16:55 Grant Edwards wrote: I didn't realize until afterwards that I had unwittingly (some might same dim-wittingly) switched from a generic profile to a desktop profile. I tried a desktop profile once. Never again. It pulled in so much dross and bloat that I hurriedly reverted to a vanilla profile and added what I wanted. I only had to do that once of course, and now I have just what I want on my wonderfully configurable Gentoo box. Other than kmail2, of course. Speaking of which, does anyone here know what I have to delete to remove all traces of a previous attempt to convert kmail messages to kmail2? I'm running kmail-1.13.7 and I'd like to try upgrading to the latest version again. I've tried searching for kmail2 in ~/ but I'm not convinced I've found everything. -- Peter
[gentoo-user] What is libgomp.so.1 and why do I need it?
I have a new laptop, and I'm doing a 64-bit Gentoo install (naturally). I've run into a brick wall building xorg-server, more specifically x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.7. The build fails as it's trying to find libgomp.so.1. See attached log. I tried... find / -name libgomp* ...and got nothing. None of my other machines have that file either, so I was unable to equery b libgomp.so.1. Can anybody try that so I know what ebuild to look at? -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications log.txt.gz Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] What is libgomp.so.1 and why do I need it?
On 13/02/2013 01:46, Walter Dnes wrote: I have a new laptop, and I'm doing a 64-bit Gentoo install (naturally). I've run into a brick wall building xorg-server, more specifically x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.7. The build fails as it's trying to find libgomp.so.1. See attached log. I tried... find / -name libgomp* ...and got nothing. None of my other machines have that file either, so I was unable to equery b libgomp.so.1. Can anybody try that so I know what ebuild to look at? It's to do with OpenMP. It's probable that this post applies to you: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5039135.html#6577903 Cheers, --Kerin
Re: [gentoo-user] What is libgomp.so.1 and why do I need it?
Walter Dnes wrote: I have a new laptop, and I'm doing a 64-bit Gentoo install (naturally). I've run into a brick wall building xorg-server, more specifically x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.7. The build fails as it's trying to find libgomp.so.1. See attached log. I tried... find / -name libgomp* ...and got nothing. None of my other machines have that file either, so I was unable to equery b libgomp.so.1. Can anybody try that so I know what ebuild to look at? You may want to bookmark this site for future reference. http://www.portagefilelist.de/site/query That site comes in handy sometimes. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2 [now gnome3]
On 02/12/2013 12:26 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: GNOME 3.6 is not masked in Gentoo, just keyworded. Apologies for the slight thread hijack, but I've been curious if anyone knows the current state of Gnome 3 in Gentoo? Heh. That's a complicated question, and I'm ready to give you a complicated answer but I probably can't stay awake that long :) Most important: are you ready to suffer long hours of learning/debugging/hair- pulling/screaming to help guide the future of gnome3? Big question, and I'm still trying to decide for myself after months of not deciding :) I loved gnome2 and I wish for the good old days because every step the gnome3 devs have taken is a mystery to me. They probably have a grand vision for the future of the gnome desktop, but it's been nothing but a PITA for me because along the way they've removed some features from apps that I use everyday for important stuff like, scheduling/keeping appointments on time, etc. In my arrogant opinion, gnome3 is betaware (just-barely-beyond-alphaware) and you should 'up'grade only if you're willing to live with that excitement. One little tidbit of good news (IMO) is that the gnome3 devs have decided to maintain a 'legacy' gnome desktop for those of us who don't like gnome-shell, which I definitely don't (but Canek definitely does). I suggest you try the latest gnome3 liveCD in a virtual machine so you don't have to risk your current gnome2 install. It's a big step, and one you may want to postpone if you're not ready for hard work and big headaches. IOW, try gnome3 on a virtual machine first :)
[gentoo-user] /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 is not a symbolic link
For a longer while now I've been getting `/sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 is not a symbolic link' warning every time I build something. It didn't seem to create any actual issues and a quick Google search didn't bring anything up so I've ended up ignoring it. I am now sick of it and would love it fixed. I can't find anything on the web with anyone having the same problem and rebuilding libgmp seems to have had no effect. Does anyone have some ideas as to how the issue can be fixed? Thanks, Mateusz Kowalczyk
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2 [now gnome3]
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: [...] IOW, try gnome3 on a virtual machine first :) I think it would be easier if you tried a LiveCD: http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/ For what is worth, I find myself more productive and much more at ease with GNOME 3 than with GNOME 2 (or any other desktop, for that matter). Every desktop/laptop computer I put my hands on, the first thing I try to do is to press the windows key to get the overview; it's really disappointing when it doesn't work and I realize I'm not using GNOME 3. I suggest to try the LiveCD; Walt seems to hate the shell and I love it, but that's because is a matter of personal opinion. I hate KDE (all four versions); that doesn't mean it's bad software, or that it has the wrong design. It's just not for me. Try it for a couple of weeks, and then decide if you want to try it; we on the list can help you to get the keyworded version installed. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 is not a symbolic link
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:43:52 + Mateusz Kowalczyk fuuze...@fuuzetsu.co.uk wrote: For a longer while now I've been getting `/sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 is not a symbolic link' warning every time I build something. It didn't seem to create any actual issues and a quick Google search didn't bring anything up so I've ended up ignoring it. I am now sick of it and would love it fixed. I can't find anything on the web with anyone having the same problem and rebuilding libgmp seems to have had no effect. Does anyone have some ideas as to how the issue can be fixed? Thanks, Mateusz Kowalczyk (Delete the file /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 and) check for invalid symlinks? Surely /usr/lib/libgmp.so does not point to /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3.whatever, but some more recent .so version, like /usr/lib/libgmp.so.10.0.2? Kerwin. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What is libgomp.so.1 and why do I need it?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 01:51:35AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 13/02/2013 01:46, Walter Dnes wrote: I have a new laptop, and I'm doing a 64-bit Gentoo install (naturally). I've run into a brick wall building xorg-server, more specifically x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.7. The build fails as it's trying to find libgomp.so.1. See attached log. I tried... find / -name libgomp* ...and got nothing. None of my other machines have that file either, so I was unable to equery b libgomp.so.1. Can anybody try that so I know what ebuild to look at? It's to do with OpenMP. It's probable that this post applies to you: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5039135.html#6577903 ELVIS Thank you, thank you, thank you very very much/ELVIS xkeyboard-config and xorg-server built successfully after I emerged gettext. That's what I call service. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 is not a symbolic link
You were right. Thanks. On 13/02/13 04:16, kwk...@hkbn.net wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:43:52 + Mateusz Kowalczyk fuuze...@fuuzetsu.co.uk wrote: For a longer while now I've been getting `/sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 is not a symbolic link' warning every time I build something. It didn't seem to create any actual issues and a quick Google search didn't bring anything up so I've ended up ignoring it. I am now sick of it and would love it fixed. I can't find anything on the web with anyone having the same problem and rebuilding libgmp seems to have had no effect. Does anyone have some ideas as to how the issue can be fixed? Thanks, Mateusz Kowalczyk (Delete the file /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3 and) check for invalid symlinks? Surely /usr/lib/libgmp.so does not point to /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3.whatever, but some more recent .so version, like /usr/lib/libgmp.so.10.0.2? Kerwin.
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 01:53:18 AM IST, James Cloos wrote: NG == Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com writes: NG I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and NG supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard NG GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. The only boards I've seen which have an AM3 socket and onboard video have the older chipsets which lack support for 1600 MHz and 8Gig dimms or the boards intended for the opteron 3000 series. I do not know whether the latter will work with an FX. Supermicro's line of opteron 3000 boards is at: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron3000/ They seem to cost on the order of $300 w/o SAS o $400 with. Otherwise onboard graphics means gx790 boards. OTOH, it looks like a opteron 4300 chip or two with one of these boards: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron4000/ makes for a great atx or micro-atx compute box for only a bit more than one would pay for a piledriver FX chip and fx990 board. -JimC I discussed this with a hardware expert friend of mine, and he said on board GPU could interfere with certain features of the FX8350. Additionally, no support for 1600 Mhz DDR3 could slow down the system. Going by his suggestion, I'll get a HD Radeon 7750 and a 970 series motherboard. Thanks :-) -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
Any am3+ board should work. know of no feauture intetferemce. Am 12.02.2013 10:09 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com: Hi, I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. Any pointers? -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 11:01:01 AM IST, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Any am3+ board should work. know of no feauture intetferemce. Am 12.02.2013 10:09 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com mailto:m...@nileshgr.com: Hi, I'm searching for a mobo which is fully compatible with Linux and supports AMD FX 8350. Preferably, I'm looking for one with onboard GFX, since I don't have any need for a big GFX for now. Any pointers? -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com Which one? -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
[gentoo-user] Anyone got a 2009 - 2011 PPC LiveCD?
Hi guys, I'm going to keep this short right now, but there's a problem with the current (20120909) PPC liveCDs [1]. I installed using Finnix instead (release 107, latest, Dec 2012), managing to make partitions, unpack the tarball and compile a kernel, but I seem to be running into a Yaboot problem. On the mirrors is a Gentoo 2008.0 PPC liveCD, but it doesn't support Ext4, so my rootfs is unrecognised. I've tried the Ubuntu 10.04 alternative PPC install CD, as that was described on Ubuntu's site as being for special installs. However it gives a blue curses installer, rather than a bash prompt - when I found a way to exit that, I just get a really primitive Ash / Busybox environment, and I can't fire up Yaboot. So from this list [2]: T2@Live doesn't have a full environment, either; I can't find the GNUstep LiveCD (seems to be discontinued on PPC; Rock is the predecessor to T2@Live and the link doesn't work. Finally the MiB PPC Knoppix is too old for Ext4. Of the list on this page [3]: I've tried Ubuntu, both the others (Fedora Suse/Novell) seem to be discontinued on PPC. I would like to try a Gentoo PPC install CD from between 2010 and the first half of 2012. Mid or late 2011 would probably be most ideal, better to be sure that it was built before the occurrence of the bugs mentioned in [1]. The devs seem aware of these [1] bugs, but appear to have left a nonfunctional Gentoo minimal installer CD (the one built 20120909) on the mirrors, anyway. I would prefer to try a c 2011 Gentoo LiveCD before I reapproach the problem I'm having with Finnix. Many thanks in advance for any help or suggestions, Stroller. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7223326.html [2] http://livecdlist.com/architecture/ppc [3] http://macosx.com/forums/boot-camp-os-virtualization-mac/309147-linux-livecds-ppc.html#post1478292
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2 [now gnome3]
Thanks for the reply! I agree that it is complicated, and that the direction of Gnome is mysterious. I've been using it at work, and I've enjoyed some things about it. Some other choices are puzzling. I'm interested to stick around to see where it will go.
[gentoo-user] OT: Resetting KMail 2 / semantic-desktop (Was: How to stem the flood of new packages?)
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:38:43 + Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Speaking of which, does anyone here know what I have to delete to remove all traces of a previous attempt to convert kmail messages to kmail2? I'm running kmail-1.13.7 and I'd like to try upgrading to the latest version again. I've tried searching for kmail2 in ~/ but I'm not convinced I've found everything. If this is any help to you, I've attached a script that I've used numerous times to start from scratch with the whole KDE4 semantic desktop. It moves everything related to Nepomuk, Akonadi, and Kontact's apps, out of your KDE directories and into a backup folder. Log out, run it, and enjoy the fresh smell of Strigi indexing ~ all over again. If you're okay with this level of cleaning; not 100% certain this is complete but it works for me. But, I've never used Kmail 1, so I can't say whether or not it will interfere with Kmail 1's files, because I have no idea where they live. Also, if there are extra a conversion has taken place from Kmail 1 files created, I'll have missed those (but would like to add them!). Also, you might need to manually delete extra resource directories from ~/.local/share. I've had odd first starts where KDE decides after much deliberation that I need seven local-mail resources... Cheers, Bryan akonuke.bash Description: Binary data
[gentoo-user] Re: Kaspersky Rescue Disk
Hi, Mick. Thanks for all the suggestions and information. I will research them all. I'd still like to keep away from putting a Linux op sys on a hard drive partition. The hard drives in these netbooks and laptops are their weak link. The HDD on my Asus 1000HA has lasted for seven years with heavy use and probably hasn't got much more life on it. I've got all my important data double-backed-up (on a flash drive and online), so that's okay. But if and when I lose the HDD I want to still be able to use the computer, via an outboard Linux op sys. The Asus 1000HA is really a sweet little machine. I don't like any of the newer models anywhere near as much. I see what you mean about ISOs not being writeable. That makes a real problem with live bootable USB flash drives. Actually, I haven't tried creating a file in any of the user directories accesible from the terminal, so I don't know for sure I can't. Kaspersky saves some config data, so there may be a way. Rewriting the ISO sounds like more than I can chew. Is there a way to do a full Linux installation on a flash drive, rather than just the ISO image? That might be worth a try with one of the smaller Linux versions, no? Anyway, thanks very much for all your good advice. Cheers! Mike
