Re: [gentoo-user] [HOT] (Half Offtopic) Gentoo on Nexus 7

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday 05 July 2015 16:36:08 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Stroller  [15-07-05 16:33]:
> > On Sun, 5 July 2015, at 9:43 am, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Is there any way to replace an exhausted accumulator of this tablet?
> > 
> > I have no idea what this means. I fear something may have been lost in
> > translation.
> 
> sorry for my bad English...
> 
> I meant:
> Is it possible to change an old LiIon pack, which is no longer to held
> a reasonable amount of charge with a new and fresh one?

Interesting. I remember, about 60 years ago while going to school on the bus, 
noticing women on their way to the shop to have their accumulators charged. 
They were rechargeable batteries in large, rectangular glass jars with 
carrying handles - must have been heavy, quite like a car battery today but 
smaller.

I think an accumulator could be recharged, but a battery* could not. Strictly 
speaking, "accumulator" might be thought a better term for what we call a 
rechargeable "battery", but usage hasn't turned out that way.

*  "Battery" seems to have come from an army parallel: a battery of guns 
inspiring a battery of energy-storage cells.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday 05 July 2015 18:01:37 Alex Thorne wrote:
> Unfortunately dmraid is not in any runlevel. I think it is lvm that's
> starting lvmetad despite use_lvmetad=0 being set in the configuration file.
> Unfortunately I think I'm just going to have to learn to live with the
> error message.

I hope you meant "mdraid".

I've rebuilt my system recently (to go back from ~amd64 to amd64) and now I 
can't find a combination that avoids all error messages, so I seem to be in the 
same boat as you now  :0

-- 
Rgds
Peter

[gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

Isn't anyone else suffering duplication of e-mails in KMail-2? This list is 
silent on the subject, and the bug I opened in April still hasn't even been 
confirmed, never mind acted on.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346695

It looks as though the underlying database design is incomplete, or just 
broken, to judge by ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err . I raised bug 
348491 about that - also unconfirmed so far. I suppose the KDE devs are 
overwhelmed.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

[Alex Thorne]

I guess I did mean mdraid, but would you mind explaining the difference
(I've never used raid so don't know much about this)? Is dmraid deprecated
in favour of mdadm?

Yes, I think most Gentoo installs I've done have had some small
warnings/error messages somewhere which I've never quite managed to
eliminate...

On 6 July 2015 at 08:54, Peter Humphrey  wrote:

> On Sunday 05 July 2015 18:01:37 Alex Thorne wrote:
> > Unfortunately dmraid is not in any runlevel. I think it is lvm that's
> > starting lvmetad despite use_lvmetad=0 being set in the configuration
> file.
> > Unfortunately I think I'm just going to have to learn to live with the
> > error message.
>
> I hope you meant "mdraid".
>
> I've rebuilt my system recently (to go back from ~amd64 to amd64) and now I
> can't find a combination that avoids all error messages, so I seem to be
> in the
> same boat as you now  :0
>
> --
> Rgds
> Peter
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Mick]

On 06-07-2015 ,09:33:58, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> Isn't anyone else suffering duplication of e-mails in KMail-2? This list is 
> silent on the subject, and the bug I opened in April still hasn't even been 
> confirmed, never mind acted on.

I had duplicated emails in my first attempt (c. 2011) to move to Kmail2.
This was on a POP3 account.  When I deleted the duplicates, more would be
created.  I did not have the full semantic KDEPIM enchilada enabled and
I was running sqlite3, which the KDE devs advised against (unable to
manage multithreaded operations that mysql/postgresql could do with
ease).  At the time I blamed sqlite as the cause of this, but I may have
been wrong if you are also observing the same.

More recently (c. 2013/4) I tried again to setup Kmail2, but using IMAP4
and mysql.  Small IMAP4 accounts with a couple of thousand messages work
fine.  Large IMAP4 accounts with 120k messages or more, work like a pig,
unless you have FTTP and some octa-core beast to run your desktop on.


> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346695
> 
> It looks as though the underlying database design is incomplete, or just 
> broken, to judge by ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err . I raised bug 
> 348491 about that - also unconfirmed so far. I suppose the KDE devs are 
> overwhelmed.

HEALTH WARNING: This can potentially delete ALL your messages, with the
same ease that it creates duplicates.  So, ensure that you have some
back up system, to safeguard loss of your email data.

If you open the akonadi console you should be able to clear the akonadi
cache.  This ought to follow with a re-indexing of your messages by
akonadi, hopefully without creating a duplicate of each message in your
Inbox folder.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] [HOT] (Half Offtopic) Gentoo on Nexus 7

[R0b0t1]

>What I definetly DONT want is a smartphone or any other
>NSA/CIA/MOSSAD/KGB/whetever-sponsored tracking device...

Because of this point alone no currently on-market cellular device
will fulfill your needs. Incl. chromebooks or tablets with cellular
capability.

Barring a small laptop the best you could do would probably be a
mini-ITX board in a custom enclosure, but that's fairly large for the
intended purpose.

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 06 July 2015 10:19:36 Alex Thorne wrote:
> I guess I did mean mdraid, but would you mind explaining the difference
> (I've never used raid so don't know much about this)? Is dmraid deprecated
> in favour of mdadm?

Dmraid is the fake RAID that's included on most motherboards these days; it's 
meant for use with Windows and is enabled (or not) in the BIOS. There are 
Linux drivers, but we're always advised to use mdraid instead. Mdraid is all 
in software spread over the kernel, udev and user space*; it's not influenced 
at all by Windows as far as I know. Mdadm is the user-space administration 
program that comes with mdraid.

Mdadm creates /dev/mdX from one or more /dev/sdX or similar - e.g. my /dev/md1 
is built on /dev/sd[ab]1; /dev/md5 is on /dev/sd[ab]5 and /dev/md7 is on 
/dev/sd[ab]7. That last one also has LVM on it with a dozen or more logical 
volumes for segments of my overall file system.

If you want to play with mdraid, the old Gentoo guide is succinct but useful:

http://wwwold.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml

Well, it was, but suddenly it isn't there - even Google's search results end 
up in an empty page.

Ah, I've found the new version at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LVM . It must 
be very new - would you like to test it?  :-)

*  Yes, I know that udev runs in user space (="User Device" management) but I 
thought it was worth mentioning separately.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 06 July 2015 11:01:08 Mick wrote:

> If you open the akonadi console you should be able to clear the akonadi
> cache.  This ought to follow with a re-indexing of your messages by
> akonadi, hopefully without creating a duplicate of each message in your
> Inbox folder.

The only reference I can find to the cache in akonadi console v 0.99 is a 
"Cache only retrieval" tick box. I've set off a Synchronise All and I'll see if 
it does anything useful. Doesn't look like it.

I'm beginning to suspect a problem with mime types, but I'm largely ignorant 
in that area so I'd prefer it to be somewhere else :-)

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] [HOT] (Half Offtopic) Gentoo on Nexus 7

[Stroller]

On Sun, 5 July 2015, at 3:36 pm, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> 
> I meant:
> Is it possible to change an old LiIon pack, which is no longer to held
> a reasonable amount of charge with a new and fresh one?

There are loads of them on eBay for $20 - $30.

Just search "nexus 7 battery".

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nexus+7+Battery+Replacement/9895

I think there are also some howto videos on YouTube.

Stroller.

[gentoo-user] dev-util/ninja + checkinstall

[James]

Hello,

So Neil posted some weeks ago about checkinstall [1] 
I've been wanting to experiment with ninja[2] too. So has
anyone combined both tools?

While I'm at it I'd like to be able to construct a complete
DAG [3] from theses installed files and the related dependencies; very
flexible on this part, trying to learn more about the uses
and visualizations of a DAG [4].


Eventually, I want a custom build system, for rapidly prototyping code
from a variety  of tarballs that are not part of a regular build package
system; that yields control, file tracking and visual tools of  the tree,
particularly advanced math [5] and science codes. Ph.D (science) folks are
often very smart, but they sometimes do 'wacky' things with codes. I also
need to be able to ' partially unwind' and/or removed everything installed,
confidently.


I have other boxes to do this work on, but yea eventually it needs
security (sandbox et al) but fist get it working; then tighten up on
security. The authors are trusted as to intent, but not as robust admins. 
Any discussion, guidance or wiki links to something similar is most appreciated.

I also have the intention of testing this system on minimize (gentoo) and
embedded systems as a sort of system that lives completely on a usb stick,
for easy removal.


James


[1] http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/

[2] http://github.com/martine/ninja

[3] http://furius.ca/snakefood/

[4]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24936580/c-c-implementation-of-a-directed-acyclic-graph

[5] http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/graphs/sage/graphs/digraph.html

[gentoo-user] Anyone else having a problem with bash?

[walt]

My bash problem started a few weeks ago but I can't remember when.
This problem is intermittent and hard to reproduce.  I'm seeing it
maybe less than ten times per day but often enough to be really
annoying.

This is the problem:  occasionally bash gets in a state where it stops
echoing the characters I type.  The commands I type continue to work
properly and I can see the output from them but I can't see the commands
on the screen as I type them.

So far I've seen this problem start *after* some bash command has
finished executing, e.g. after doing 'git diff'.  It never happens when
I open a new xterm, before I run a command.

I emerged app-shells/sash and I don't see the problem there, so I think
this is a bash problem, but I'm just guessing.

Any ideas?

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else having a problem with bash?

[Alexander Kapshuk]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:01 PM, walt  wrote:
> My bash problem started a few weeks ago but I can't remember when.
> This problem is intermittent and hard to reproduce.  I'm seeing it
> maybe less than ten times per day but often enough to be really
> annoying.
>
> This is the problem:  occasionally bash gets in a state where it stops
> echoing the characters I type.  The commands I type continue to work
> properly and I can see the output from them but I can't see the commands
> on the screen as I type them.
>
> So far I've seen this problem start *after* some bash command has
> finished executing, e.g. after doing 'git diff'.  It never happens when
> I open a new xterm, before I run a command.
>
> I emerged app-shells/sash and I don't see the problem there, so I think
> this is a bash problem, but I'm just guessing.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>

What's the output of 'stty -a'? Is the 'echo' attribute on, 'echo', or
off, '-echo'?

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Mick]

On Monday 06 Jul 2015 16:44:39 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 06 July 2015 11:01:08 Mick wrote:
> > If you open the akonadi console you should be able to clear the akonadi
> > cache.  This ought to follow with a re-indexing of your messages by
> > akonadi, hopefully without creating a duplicate of each message in your
> > Inbox folder.
> 
> The only reference I can find to the cache in akonadi console v 0.99 is a
> "Cache only retrieval" tick box. I've set off a Synchronise All and I'll
> see if it does anything useful. Doesn't look like it.

Peter, I'm going from memory here, but I recovered from a kmail2 problem by 
clearing the akonadi cache and thereby forcing a reindexing.  I recall opening 
the akonadi console from the tool tray and this offered me a GUI, which listed 
the various KDEPIM resources.  I right clicked on the corrupted folder and 
selected to clear the cache; in my case it would not list any messages and was 
hanging when trying to sync with the mail server.  This fixed it.

Are you looking at the same place?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

[»Q«]

On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:18:18 +0300
Alexander Kapshuk  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:01 PM, walt  wrote:
> > My bash problem started a few weeks ago but I can't remember when.
> > This problem is intermittent and hard to reproduce.  I'm seeing it
> > maybe less than ten times per day but often enough to be really
> > annoying.
> >
> > This is the problem:  occasionally bash gets in a state where it
> > stops echoing the characters I type.  The commands I type continue
> > to work properly and I can see the output from them but I can't see
> > the commands on the screen as I type them.
> >
> > So far I've seen this problem start *after* some bash command has
> > finished executing, e.g. after doing 'git diff'.  It never happens
> > when I open a new xterm, before I run a command.
> >
> > I emerged app-shells/sash and I don't see the problem there, so I
> > think this is a bash problem, but I'm just guessing.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> 
> What's the output of 'stty -a'? Is the 'echo' attribute on, 'echo', or
> off, '-echo'?

I have the same symptoms as walt (except less often, probably because
I'm typing in bash less often).  The echo attribute is on for me.

I think (but am not certain) the problem started for me when I
updated bash and readline following this stabilization:


In case it matters (and since I am using USE="-*"), here are my flags
for those two packages.

bash: nls readline -afs -bashlogger -examples -mem-scramble -net
 -plugins -vanilla

sys-libs/readline: -static-libs ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" 
 ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="64 -32 -x32"

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

[Alex Thorne]

I have also experienced this intermittently with bash. Running *reset *returns
the shell to normal for me. Echo is also set on for me, but will check if
this has changed next time I experience the issue.

On 6 July 2015 at 20:07, »Q«  wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:18:18 +0300
> Alexander Kapshuk  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:01 PM, walt  wrote:
> > > My bash problem started a few weeks ago but I can't remember when.
> > > This problem is intermittent and hard to reproduce.  I'm seeing it
> > > maybe less than ten times per day but often enough to be really
> > > annoying.
> > >
> > > This is the problem:  occasionally bash gets in a state where it
> > > stops echoing the characters I type.  The commands I type continue
> > > to work properly and I can see the output from them but I can't see
> > > the commands on the screen as I type them.
> > >
> > > So far I've seen this problem start *after* some bash command has
> > > finished executing, e.g. after doing 'git diff'.  It never happens
> > > when I open a new xterm, before I run a command.
> > >
> > > I emerged app-shells/sash and I don't see the problem there, so I
> > > think this is a bash problem, but I'm just guessing.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> >
> > What's the output of 'stty -a'? Is the 'echo' attribute on, 'echo', or
> > off, '-echo'?
>
> I have the same symptoms as walt (except less often, probably because
> I'm typing in bash less often).  The echo attribute is on for me.
>
> I think (but am not certain) the problem started for me when I
> updated bash and readline following this stabilization:
> 
>
> In case it matters (and since I am using USE="-*"), here are my flags
> for those two packages.
>
> bash: nls readline -afs -bashlogger -examples -mem-scramble -net
>  -plugins -vanilla
>
> sys-libs/readline: -static-libs ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32"
>  ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="64 -32 -x32"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[gentoo-user] Printer margins

[Dale]

Howdy,

I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges.  Now I want to do
some printing.  Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to the bottom
which ends up blurred and unreadable.  I've looked in Seamonkey
settings, nothing.  I've looked in Hplip, nothing there.  I've even
looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense.  I don't like the new
cups interface.  I didn't see anything there related to margins and when
I looked in the config file, I couldn't make sense of what to change.

So, how does one change the bottom margin to say 1/2 or even 3/4 inch or
something?  Is there a way? 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[James]

Dale  gmail.com> writes:



> So, how does one change the bottom margin to say 1/2 or even 3/4 inch or
> something?  Is there a way? 

Use to be (decades ago) it was in lp or lpr filter files.

Now (at least my experiences) is that each app (particularly if it is
a gui based app) has it's own method. Some retain settings other do not;
ymmv.


For cups settings, I google for margin ideas for printers.conf.


PS, copy out your config files in /etc/cups/ so when cups hammers them
in the future, you have working backup copies


sorry I could not help more...
I'd be most curious to learn of a universal method nowadays,
particularly one that works on ascii, text and such printed via
lp.



James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[Dale]

James wrote:
> Dale  gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>
>> So, how does one change the bottom margin to say 1/2 or even 3/4 inch or
>> something?  Is there a way? 
> Use to be (decades ago) it was in lp or lpr filter files.
>
> Now (at least my experiences) is that each app (particularly if it is
> a gui based app) has it's own method. Some retain settings other do not;
> ymmv.
>
>
> For cups settings, I google for margin ideas for printers.conf.
>
>
> PS, copy out your config files in /etc/cups/ so when cups hammers them
> in the future, you have working backup copies
>
>
> sorry I could not help more...
> I'd be most curious to learn of a universal method nowadays,
> particularly one that works on ascii, text and such printed via
> lp.
>
>
>
> James
>
>
>


I googled before posting this and I found pretty much what you are
describing.  I found some really old posts but given how much things
have changed, I doubt those would still apply.  The closest I found was
to edit the ppd file itself.  Given the age of that match, I'm worried
even that may not work or only work in applications I'm not using
anyway.  I have no idea how much that may have changed especially given
how much cups has changed the user interface. 

I'm hoping someone has a idea on this tho.  It's annoying as heck to
print something and not be able to read the parts that are needed.  By
the way, I'm wanting to do this in Seamonkey and Firefox.  Well, so far
anyway. 

I may end up printing them to a PDF file then printing them from that. 
Maybe that will give me some room at the bottom.  Pain in the rear tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer margins

[Lee]

HPLIP installs several executables. Have you made sure you have started the
correct setup program? As I recall, these settings ARE included in the
hplip setup for my printer, which is an older 3 in 1.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Dale  wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges.  Now I want to do
> some printing.  Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to the bottom
> which ends up blurred and unreadable.  I've looked in Seamonkey
> settings, nothing.  I've looked in Hplip, nothing there.  I've even
> looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense.  I don't like the new
> cups interface.  I didn't see anything there related to margins and when
> I looked in the config file, I couldn't make sense of what to change.
>
> So, how does one change the bottom margin to say 1/2 or even 3/4 inch or
> something?  Is there a way?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>


-- 
Terry 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

[Bill Kenworthy]

On 07/07/15 04:43, Alex Thorne wrote:
> I have also experienced this intermittently with bash. Running /reset
> /returns the shell to normal for me. Echo is also set on for me, but
> will check if this has changed next time I experience the issue.
> 
> On 6 July 2015 at 20:07, »Q« mailto:boxc...@gmx.net>>
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:18:18 +0300
> Alexander Kapshuk  > wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:01 PM, walt  > wrote:
> > > My bash problem started a few weeks ago but I can't remember when.
> > > This problem is intermittent and hard to reproduce.  I'm seeing it

another "me too" - but rarely

blindly running "stty sane" restores it

BillK

[gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[walt]

On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500
Dale  wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges.  Now I want to
> do some printing.  Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to the
> bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable.  I've looked in Seamonkey
> settings, nothing.  I've looked in Hplip, nothing there.  I've even
> looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense.  I don't like the new
> cups interface.

cups, bah!  Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'.  From
painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever printer/fax
devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to recreate them.

By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting
localhost:631 in a web browser.  Is that the cups interface you're
using?

Re: [gentoo-user] Printer margins

[Dale]

Lee wrote:
> HPLIP installs several executables. Have you made sure you have
> started the correct setup program? As I recall, these settings ARE
> included in the hplip setup for my printer, which is an older 3 in 1.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Terry mailto:ny6...@gmail.com>>


I set this up a while ago but checked it again.  I don't see any way to
adjust the margins anywhere in hplip.  I even tried to set it up again
but basically all it does and see the printer and add it.  There's not
anything to set up really.

I only wish it would. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[Dale]

walt wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500
> Dale  wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges.  Now I want to
>> do some printing.  Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to the
>> bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable.  I've looked in Seamonkey
>> settings, nothing.  I've looked in Hplip, nothing there.  I've even
>> looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense.  I don't like the new
>> cups interface.
> cups, bah!  Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'.  From
> painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever printer/fax
> devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to recreate them.
>
> By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting
> localhost:631 in a web browser.  Is that the cups interface you're
> using?
>
>

It used to do the same with me but that stopped a long time ago.  Thing
is, cups or not, I can't find anything to adjust the margin.  Nothing in
cups, nothing in hplip either. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail-2 duplicates

[Paul Colquhoun]

On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 09:33:58 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> Isn't anyone else suffering duplication of e-mails in KMail-2? This list 
is
> silent on the subject, and the bug I opened in April still hasn't even 
been
> confirmed, never mind acted on.
> 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346695
> 
> It looks as though the underlying database design is incomplete, or 
just
> broken, to judge by ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err . I raised 
bug
> 348491 about that - also unconfirmed so far. I suppose the KDE devs 
are
> overwhelmed.


Yes, I get duplicate message as well. I've been getting them for all 
versions of Kmail-2, as far as I remember.

Currently using version 4.14.8 and the frequency of duplicates has 
dropped, but they still happen.

Also, Kmail-2 doesn't seem to move message files correctly in maildir 
folders. Quite a few get left in the 'new' directory instead of being moved 
to 'cur'. I havn't checked to see it these correleate with duplicated 
messages at all.


-- 
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC. http://andor.dropbear.id.au/
  Asking for technical help in newsgroups?  Read this first:
 http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro

[gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[walt]

On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:41:07 -0500
Dale  wrote:

> walt wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500
> > Dale  wrote:
> >
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges.  Now I want
> >> to do some printing.  Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to
> >> the bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable.  I've looked in
> >> Seamonkey settings, nothing.  I've looked in Hplip, nothing
> >> there.  I've even looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense.
> >> I don't like the new cups interface.
> > cups, bah!  Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'.  From
> > painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever
> > printer/fax devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to
> > recreate them.
> >
> > By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting
> > localhost:631 in a web browser.  Is that the cups interface you're
> > using?
> >
> >
> 
> It used to do the same with me but that stopped a long time ago.

Dale, did you try it *this* time?  If not, please try the
same-ole-same-ole tired remedy just one more time.  The price is
right :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[Daniel Frey]

On 07/06/2015 06:40 PM, walt wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:41:07 -0500
> Dale  wrote:
> 
>> walt wrote:
>>> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500
>>> Dale  wrote:
>>>
 Howdy,

 I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges.  Now I want
 to do some printing.  Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to
 the bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable.  I've looked in
 Seamonkey settings, nothing.  I've looked in Hplip, nothing
 there.  I've even looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense.
 I don't like the new cups interface.
>>> cups, bah!  Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'.  From
>>> painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever
>>> printer/fax devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to
>>> recreate them.
>>>
>>> By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting
>>> localhost:631 in a web browser.  Is that the cups interface you're
>>> using?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It used to do the same with me but that stopped a long time ago.
> 
> Dale, did you try it *this* time?  If not, please try the
> same-ole-same-ole tired remedy just one more time.  The price is
> right :)
> 
> 

Have you tried lpadmin?

I seem to recall my old printer I had this problem and was able to use:

`lpadmin -o page-bottom-default=36 -o page-top-default=36`

That set a system-wide default. IIRC it's set by dpi, but it's been a
while. Might have to experiment to see if it still works.

To see options you can use `lpoptions -l`

My new printer uses foomatic drivers and it works properly without
messing around with options to set the margins.

If that doesn't help then I don't have a clue...

There should be man pages for both lpadmin and lpoptions.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[Dale]

walt wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:41:07 -0500
> Dale  wrote:
>
>> walt wrote:
>>> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:01:44 -0500
>>> Dale  wrote:
>>>
 Howdy,

 I finally got around to ordering some ink cartridges.  Now I want
 to do some printing.  Thing is, it tries to print ALL the way to
 the bottom which ends up blurred and unreadable.  I've looked in
 Seamonkey settings, nothing.  I've looked in Hplip, nothing
 there.  I've even looked in cups, well, nothing that makes sense.
 I don't like the new cups interface.
>>> cups, bah!  Every time cups is updated my printer 'breaks'.  From
>>> painful years of experience I now know to 'delete' whatever
>>> printer/fax devices cups knows about and use hp-setup (not cups) to
>>> recreate them.
>>>
>>> By 'delete' I'm referring to the cups interface I access by visiting
>>> localhost:631 in a web browser.  Is that the cups interface you're
>>> using?
>>>
>>>
>> It used to do the same with me but that stopped a long time ago.
> Dale, did you try it *this* time?  If not, please try the
> same-ole-same-ole tired remedy just one more time.  The price is
> right :)
>
>
>


Yes I did.  The printer works fine.  It's just the margins that I need
to change.  There used to be a way to set the margins but that is gone. 
Anyway, before when I did a update, the printer wouldn't work at all. 
It would generally just sit there claiming it is going to print but
never does.  Deleting and adding it again would fix that.  That was a
long time ago.  When I have printer problems, that it what I try first. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Printer margins

[Dale]

Daniel Frey wrote:
> Have you tried lpadmin?
>
> I seem to recall my old printer I had this problem and was able to use:
>
> `lpadmin -o page-bottom-default=36 -o page-top-default=36`
>
> That set a system-wide default. IIRC it's set by dpi, but it's been a
> while. Might have to experiment to see if it still works.
>
> To see options you can use `lpoptions -l`
>
> My new printer uses foomatic drivers and it works properly without
> messing around with options to set the margins.
>
> If that doesn't help then I don't have a clue...
>
> There should be man pages for both lpadmin and lpoptions.
>
> Dan
>
>


What I did was edit the file like I found with google.  I've only
printed a couple pages so far but it seems to work.  I changed the
margin setting from 36 to 56.  I'll likely have to print some more to
see if it works OK for sure.  I'm hoping. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)