Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
On Friday 21 Apr 2017 00:31:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 20/04/2017 21:22, R0b0t1 wrote: > > And to everyone: KDE-5 doesn't exist, what you are probably referring > > to is Plasma 5. > > yes you are completely correct. But old habits die hard, and for me KDE > has always been KDE- :-) > > I blame it on an old brain where most of the neurons stopped working > ages ago and 30 years of IT work junk leaves no spares I claim 45 years to explain my most egregious lapses. :) -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Palemoon again - again
On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 17:59:13 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:06:12AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > On Monday 17 Apr 2017 13:05:59 Walter Dnes wrote: > > > 2) USE="-system-libs" is recommended. Yes, this does make the binary > > > slightly larger. But it avoids problems where changing API/ABI in the > > > system lib causes subtle problems for the program. It may also reduce > > > dependancies pulled in, depending on what your other programs have > > > pulled in. > > > > I don't see any of those USE flags. This is from the octopus overlay: > > > > [ebuild R ~] www-client/palemoon-27.2.1::octopus USE="alsa dbus > > ffmpeg gtk2 official-branding optimize printing speech spell wave webm > > -devtools -gtk3 -jemalloc -necko-wifi -pulseaudio -shared-js > > -strip-binaries -system-cairo -system-compress -system-images > > -system-libevent -system-pixman -system-spell -system-sqlite -system-vpx > > -valgrind -webrtc" 0 KiB > > That ebuild does things differently. The other palemoon ebuild was > all-or-nothing for a bunch of system libs. The octopus ebuild is > granular, allowing separate choices for system-cairo system-compress > system-images system-libevent system-pixman system-spell system-sqlite > and system-vpx. As I'm now on sys-devel/gcc-5.4.0-r3 I'll have to assess what to do next. That will be after I've finished sorting out another problem I have. -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.
On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 19:32:54 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Mick. > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 20:11:33 +0100, Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 18:26:43 Alan Mackenzie wrote: --->8 > > > Can anybody suggest ideas to get this machine booting? Would > > > partitioning the drives with MBR, and trying to boot that way help, > > > for > > > example? I really don't want to do that, though, though if it's the > > > only way to get my machine booting, I'd do it. > > > > Have you tried booting with one disk only? This should confirm if your > > set up and drivers are appropriate for your hardware. > > I have tried taking the "secondary" SSD out. It fails to boot in this > case exactly as when both SSDs are installed. However, once booted (from > the CD), the installation system can read and write the SSDs without > problem. There's a setting in the BIOS booting section, where one can > indicated whether booting from NVMe is in GPT or MBR mode, so it seems > the Asus's intention is to allow booting from an NVMe SSD. I also have an Asus motherboard, but for Intel hardware. In your BIOS secure-boot page, do you have a section called Key Management? When I was working on getting my machine to boot, a year ago, I was advised* to hit the item "Load default keys". This was to clear out any dross that might have found its way into the secure-boot mechanism and enable me to boot in Other mode - i.e. not a Microsoft secure boot. As Mick says, you need to install a kernel image in the boot partition (which must be FAT32). There are several ways to do this; I use bootctl from sys-boot/systemd-boot (don't worry - it doesn't depend on having the rest of systemd around it). It allows a choice of system to boot, without the gymnastics needed by GRUB-2, but you have to maintain the different images' config files manually. Let me know if I can' help with bootctl. Good luck! * An advantage of buying a newfangled system ready built. -- Regards Peter
[gentoo-user] Re: Pay attention to what 'emerge' tells you.
Am Thu, 20 Apr 2017 05:05:25 +0800 schrieb Bill Kenworthy : > On 20/04/17 04:54, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I did my normal (approximately) weekly emerge sync/update today, and > > the update failed: emerge complained about a conflict between perl > > 5.22 and 5.24. There were a bunch of perl modules that required > > 5.22, but others required 5.24. > > > > After a bit of messing around, I just uninstalled all the ones that > > required 5.22 (and then uninstalled whatever apps required those > > modules). This took numerous iterations of 'emerge --pretend > > --depclean' and 'emerge -C ' and 'emerge -auvND'. After > > 10-15 minutes of this, the update ran without conflict, and then I > > reinstalled whatever apps I had uninstalled. > > > > Now update the next machine... same conflicts. > > > > This time I paid closer attention to the emerge output and added > > '--backtrack=30' as it suggested. Then the update worked ran no > > problem. > > > > simpler is to: > emerge perl --nodeps > perl-cleaner --all > emerge -NuDv world etc ... > > less work, no glitches ... I have just started machine #4 Well, you are lucky that no glitches appeared... No deps ignores all deps, perl may not properly work. At least I would rebuild perl again after everything was resolved. Or you use: # emerge -1a perl --reinstall-atoms "$(qlist -IC dev-perl/ virtual/perl-)" It may require you to first uninstall all virtuals: # emerge -Ca $(qlist -IC virtual/perl-) Also, "qlist -ICS ..." may be required instead. -- Regards, Kai Replies to list-only preferred.
[gentoo-user] Re: News: invalid item?
Am Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:45:49 -0700 schrieb Daniel Frey : > Anyone sync recently and get this: > > !!! Invalid news item: > /usr/portage/metadata/news/2017-04-10-split-and-slotted-wine/2017-04-10-split-and-slotted-wine.en.txt > > Not sure if I should file a bugreport or what happened here... > > Synced a few minutes ago @ 12:37-ish PST. Please try updating portage first and then try again... -- Regards, Kai Replies to list-only preferred.
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you emerge emacs 25 with xwidgets support?
On 2017-04-20 20:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:09:48 +0200, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > >> Calculating dependencies... done! >> [ebuild N ] app-editors/emacs-25.2_rc2:25::gentoo USE="X alsa >> dbus gif gpm gtk gtk3 inotify jpeg png ssl svg tiff xpm zlib -Xaw3d >> -acl (-aqua) -athena (-cairo) -dynamic-loading -games -gconf -gfile >> -gsettings -gzip-el -hesiod -imagemagick -kerberos -libxml2 -livecd >> -m17n-lib -motif -pax_kernel (-selinux) -sound -source >> -toolkit-scroll-bars -wide-int -xft (-xwidgets)" 0 KiB >> >> The parentheses indicate that the flag is 'forced, masked, or >> removed' (from man emerge) so it is ignored on purpose. I have no idea >> why. > > It is masked in the profile > > % grep -r xwidgets /var/portage/profiles > ... > /var/portage/profiles/base/package.use.mask:app-editors/emacs:25 xwidgets Well, this is really surprising...I never thought of this. You made my day! I checked the file "/usr/portage/profiles/base/package.use.mask", it tells: # Ulrich Müller (4 Feb 2017) # Uses old and vulnerable net-libs/webkit-gtk:3, bug #584156. app-editors/emacs:25 xwidgets app-editors/emacs-vcs:25 xwidgets For those who don't care about it and just want to use xwidgets: Edit your use.mask file, mine is: "/etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask". Add line below: app-editors/emacs -xwidgets Danny
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
On 20/04/2017 21:22, R0b0t1 wrote: And to everyone: KDE-5 doesn't exist, what you are probably referring to is Plasma 5. yes you are completely correct. But old habits die hard, and for me KDE has always been KDE- :-) I blame it on an old brain where most of the neurons stopped working ages ago and 30 years of IT work junk leaves no spares
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set size to windows in Openbox in local config [SOLVED]
On 170420-05:57+0200, Floyd Anderson wrote:
> On Do, 13 Apr 21:55:29 +0200
> Miroslav Rovis wrote:
...
> >
> >But I forgot floyd has got a "patch to keep the window position while
> >resizing the font" and offered it:
> >
> >https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-user&m=149205691530349&w=2
...
>
> Hi Miroslav,
>
> back from some computer-free holidays,
I hope you had good and restful time!
> I haven’t forgotten that I owe
> you a patch. Study my attached approach and if you like, apply the patch
> at your own risk (it should be clean applicable to the currently latest
> upstream commit [1]).
which I just git clone'd, for that purpose.
> If you have any questions or ideas, get back to me.
Don't worry, I will! With my usual excuse for my slowness and relative
inaptitude...
> But keep in mind,
> I’m neither a developer nor a GUI programmer guru.
>
> It has some limits and/or doesn’t resolve certain issues:
> - the patch assumes ‘NorthWest’ as the reference point for the window
> gravity.
NW is just fine, I would expect that, it's the usual default.
> - if terminal background is colourised via escape sequences (as Andrew
> mentioned in [2]),
Yeah, I had marked important that email previously already, but only now
found some time to study the links (and only *some* time)...
And some of these notes of yours below I'll only more fully understand
when I, hopefully, try and apply the patch (more about my plan on that
further below):
> you may notice that a borderless window colourise
> only full cells (of rows/columns), not the gap between a terminal
> cell end and the window edge. Framed windows seems not to be
> affected by this behaviour.
> - window edges flutters/flickers while resizing fonts (independently
> from step-size and also when using escape sequences for resizing)
> - toggling a window between normal -> fullscreen/maximised state ->
> and back, you may notice that the window size has changed. I don’t
> know the reason for this issue (which occurs independently from the
> urxvt-font-size extension and my patch).
> - different window manager (WM) probably produces different
> behaviours. Think about a WM that try to imitate a tiling window
> manager by automatic resizing/positioning within a snapping area
> near the desktop edges.
> - patch is tested to my moderate needs but not fully with all kinds of
> fonts, WMs, multi monitor environment, etc.
> - ...
>
> The patch is too unimportant to solve some/all of the above issues
> and/or bloating up the urxvt extension script. And additionally,
> rxvt-unicode won’t and doesn’t expose all Xlib functions (such as
> XGetWindowAttributes) in urxvtperl, the embedded perl interpreter. So it
$ man urxvtperl # but how cryptic!, how long study that will be... I don't
have all those hours right now...
I hope I'll find a solution with less time to invest,
else...
> will be tricky sometimes, to solve a specific behaviour.
>
> My used and tested urxvt-font-size related Xresource settings:
> URxvt.font-size.keepwin:true
> URxvt.font-size.step: 4
> URxvt.keysym.C-0xffad: font-size:decrease
> URxvt.keysym.C-0xffab: font-size:increase
> URxvt.keysym.C-0xffb0: font-size:reset
>
> Since I use the default keysyms for font-size:{decrease,increase,reset}
> in Vim, I changed those defaults to C-KP_Substract (C-0xffad), C-KP_Add
> (C-0xffab), C-KP_0 (C-0xffb0) like in Firefox and others.
I don't get what these are. Not at this time. And this is my second
reading of your email...
NOTE (at proofreading): Is that 'C-KP_Substract' should read
'C-KP_Subtract'?, the "-" on the keypad? So 'C-KP_Subtract' means
Ctrl-?, and C-KP_0 means Ctrl-0?
I also compared what I have currently installed:
# eix urxvt-font-size
[I] x11-misc/urxvt-font-size
Available versions: 1.1 **
Installed versions: 1.1(13:07:28 22/02/15)
Homepage:https://github.com/majutsushi/urxvt-font-size/
Description: Perl extension for rxvt-unicode to change the font
size on the fly
#
# qlist urxvt-font-size
/usr/lib64/urxvt/perl/font-size
/usr/share/doc/urxvt-font-size-1.1/README.markdown.bz2
#
[I compared what I have currently installed] with the version, which
is the version that, IIUC, I plan to hopefully try and patch with your
patch...
>
> References:
> [1]
>
That's the the two colons that Jan Larres, the current maintainer left
out, and you reminded him they were missing. Nice of you! (IIUC)
> [2]
>
The link that Savchenko gave in that email is puzzling me:
http://rcr.io/words/dynamic-xterm-colors.html
I want to try and figure out that bash script there... It's ver
Re: [gentoo-user] Palemoon again - again
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:06:12AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Monday 17 Apr 2017 13:05:59 Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > 2) USE="-system-libs" is recommended. Yes, this does make the binary > > slightly larger. But it avoids problems where changing API/ABI in the > > system lib causes subtle problems for the program. It may also reduce > > dependancies pulled in, depending on what your other programs have > > pulled in. > > I don't see any of those USE flags. This is from the octopus overlay: > > [ebuild R ~] www-client/palemoon-27.2.1::octopus USE="alsa dbus > ffmpeg gtk2 official-branding optimize printing speech spell wave webm > -devtools -gtk3 -jemalloc -necko-wifi -pulseaudio -shared-js > -strip-binaries -system-cairo -system-compress -system-images > -system-libevent -system-pixman -system-spell -system-sqlite -system-vpx > -valgrind -webrtc" 0 KiB That ebuild does things differently. The other palemoon ebuild was all-or-nothing for a bunch of system libs. The octopus ebuild is granular, allowing separate choices for system-cairo system-compress system-images system-libevent system-pixman system-spell system-sqlite and system-vpx. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 14:22:06 R0b0t1 wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Mick wrote: >> > OK, I know life moves on, but this move has been a retrograde step for me. >> > My konqueror:5 recently updated seems to have a number of problems and >> > features I am not happy with. Grateful for any pointers to >> > address these. In no particular order. >> > >> > 1. The Bookmarks Toolbar will *always* show up when launching Konqueror. >> > I >> > deselect Settings/Toolbars Shown/Bookmark Toolbar and relaunch the >> > application, only to find out my deselection will not stick. >> > >> > 2. The menu shows no icons, only text; buttons like open new tab/close >> > current tab show no icons, making difficult to guess. >> > >> > 3. When used as a file manager Konqueror will only open directories or >> > files if I double click on them. I have set up in systemsettings5 >> > Hardware/Input Devices/Mouse/Single click to open files and folders. >> > Konqueror ignores it. >> > >> > 4. All my years of Bookmarks of Konqueror:4 gone. I had to import them >> > manually. >> > >> > 5. Network places, gone. >> > >> > 6. Left hand Panels with Places/Devices/Folders ain't thaa'r. >> > >> > 7. Konqueror Introduction page, no icons; unless I hover over them, >> > hyperlinked titles shown in dark grey over a blue background. I know my >> > eye sight is not as good as it used to be, but this is really akin to >> > usability sabotage. >> > >> > The are probably more problems I have not captured above, but my >> > experience of konqueror:5 is that of crippleware. I don't know if this >> > has anything to do with it, I am not running konqueror on a full plasma >> > desktop, but as a stand alone application. Have you observed similar? >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Mick >> >> You should take your complaints to the project's bug tracker. I know >> they will take number 7 very seriously, and seeing as you've used the >> project for an appreciable amount of time they will likely consider >> most of your other issues. >> >> At the very least they would probably tell you how to do what you >> don't know how to do. If they can't insist that there has been a >> regression. > > Thanks R0b0t1, I don't want to darken their doorstep of devs with issues which > appear isolated to my systems. Other M/L participants many of whom are > running the full Plasma desktop, do not seem to have such problems. So, I'm > guessing I must be missing some package or other to complement the required > functionality. > I have to disagree with you here. There is no way I can see the developers responding negatively, though time might be short for new (or "reintroduced") features. I feel it necessary to mention that seventh item again, which they will take very seriously. > I'm still on kmail:4 and all menu icons are shown and functionality is not > crippled in any way. I fear what might happen when I eventually have to > install kmail:5. > I feel this is also something you should express to the developers, but admittedly I don't know the best place. Perhaps a mailing list. I understand there is a time investment but if you have any to spare it will almost assuredly spark a constructive conversation.
Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Mick wrote: > Boot with a LiveCD or LiveUSB which offers UEFI booting capability; e.g. > sysrescuecd. > > Make sure your kernel has been configured and built for the boot system you > will be using. > > Prepare a UEFI boot partition/fs and copy there your kernel image if you want > to boot without a boot manager, or GRUB/rEFInd/etc., if you want to keep using > a boot manager. > > Reboot without the LiveCD/USB and as long as you configured your system > correctly it should boot up. > I would recommend Fedora - they provide signatures for their releases.
Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.
On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 19:32:54 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Mick. > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 20:11:33 +0100, Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 18:26:43 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hello, Gentoo. > > > > > > The saga of my new AMD Ryzen machine: I've installed Gentoo onto > > > (mdadam) RAID-1 on two MVMe Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSDs, one of them being > > > plugged into the motherboard, the other in a carrier card plugged into > > > the second PCIe x16 slot. > > > > > > At least, I've got as far as the point where I need to boot into the > > > newly installed system. The machine doesn't boot. In its attempts, it > > > displays an underline cursor on a blank 80 x 25 screen, flips this > > > cursor nearer the middle of the screen once or twice, then hangs. > > > > > > The SSDs are partitioned with GPT. The boot loader is grub2. I've > > > taken care to follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook to try to > > > avoid missing out some little detail. However, I've never used grub2 > > > before, so quite possibly I have missed something out. > > > > > > It's also possible that the motherboard's BIOS is still too buggy to > > > support booting from an NVMe drive. (It's an Asus Prime X370-Pro: I've > > > already had to upgrade the BIOS once (to version 0604) to get the > > > installation CD to be recognised at all.) > > > > > > Asus doesn't have email support, they merely have an http site where one > > > can register and ask for help, if one doesn't mind their obnoxious > > > ambiguous "privacy" policy. I do mind, particularly after having paid > > > good money for a product which is only partially working. > > > > > > The BIOS boot sections are puzzling. If I disable what they call > > > "OPROM" booting (i.e. MBR), the BIOS no longer displays the three drives > > > (two SSDs + DVD) as booting options. There is an ostensible setting > > > called "secure boot" which is enabled, and I haven't found any way of > > > disabling it. > > > > If you cannot find a way to disable Secure Boot you will need to use a > > kernel image which has been digitally signed by RHL, or Microsoft. Have > > a look here (random page on Google search): > > > > https://www.howtogeek.com/175641/how-to-boot-and-install-linux-on-a-uefi-p > > c-with-secure-boot/ > > > > If you obtain the necessary key you should be able to sign your > > kernel/initrd and then use these to boot your PC without disabling secure > > boot. Some binary distros RHL/Ubuntu et al probably provide digitally > > signed images to try. > If I can't boot Gentoo, the motherboard goes back to the shop (or into > the dustbin). I'm not going to be installing anything which uses a > signed image. Still, the CD booted without a signature. Could it be > that it will boot from MBR normally, but requires a signature for GPT? > > > > When I booted from the minimal CD, did it boot in MBR or GPT mode? How > > > do I tell? > > > > Check you've disabled your Compatibility Support Module so the MoBo will > > not try to use legacy BIOS boot mode with MBR, rather than UEFI. > > If I disable the CSModule, the BIOS doesn't show the CD drive at all, so > I can't boot that way. > > > After it boots check if you can list the directory /sys/firmware/efi. > > If you get a result like this: > > > > $ ls -la /sys/firmware/efi > > ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory > > > > you have booted in BIOS mode. > > That settles it. I've been booting in MBR/BIOS mode. Thanks. > > > However, if you get a message like this: > > > > $ ls -la /sys/firmware/efi > > total 0 > > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 . > > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 .. > > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 config_table > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 efivars > > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 fw_platform_size > > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 fw_vendor > > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 runtime > > -r 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 systab > > drwxr-xr-x 134 root root0 Apr 20 20:07 vars > > > > then you have booted a UEFI system. > > > > > Can anybody suggest ideas to get this machine booting? Would > > > partitioning the drives with MBR, and trying to boot that way help, for > > > example? I really don't want to do that, though, though if it's the > > > only way to get my machine booting, I'd do it. > > > > Have you tried booting with one disk only? This should confirm if your > > set up and drivers are appropriate for your hardware. > > I have tried taking the "secondary" SSD out. It fails to boot in this > case exactly as when both SSDs are installed. However, once booted (from > the CD), the installation system can read and write the SSDs without > problem. There's a setting in the BIOS booting section, where one can > indicated whether booting from NVMe is in GPT or MBR mode, so it seems > the Asus's intention is to allow booting from an NVMe SSD. I a
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you emerge emacs 25 with xwidgets support?
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:09:48 +0200, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N ] app-editors/emacs-25.2_rc2:25::gentoo USE="X alsa > dbus gif gpm gtk gtk3 inotify jpeg png ssl svg tiff xpm zlib -Xaw3d > -acl (-aqua) -athena (-cairo) -dynamic-loading -games -gconf -gfile > -gsettings -gzip-el -hesiod -imagemagick -kerberos -libxml2 -livecd > -m17n-lib -motif -pax_kernel (-selinux) -sound -source > -toolkit-scroll-bars -wide-int -xft (-xwidgets)" 0 KiB > > The parentheses indicate that the flag is 'forced, masked, or > removed' (from man emerge) so it is ignored on purpose. I have no idea > why. It is masked in the profile % grep -r xwidgets /var/portage/profiles ... /var/portage/profiles/base/package.use.mask:app-editors/emacs:25 xwidgets -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 014: Keyboard locked - Try anything you can think of. pgpqNKFumlDxo.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 14:22:06 R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Mick wrote: > > OK, I know life moves on, but this move has been a retrograde step for me. > > My konqueror:5 recently updated seems to have a number of problems and > > features I am not happy with. Grateful for any pointers to > > address these. In no particular order. > > > > 1. The Bookmarks Toolbar will *always* show up when launching Konqueror. > > I > > deselect Settings/Toolbars Shown/Bookmark Toolbar and relaunch the > > application, only to find out my deselection will not stick. > > > > 2. The menu shows no icons, only text; buttons like open new tab/close > > current tab show no icons, making difficult to guess. > > > > 3. When used as a file manager Konqueror will only open directories or > > files if I double click on them. I have set up in systemsettings5 > > Hardware/Input Devices/Mouse/Single click to open files and folders. > > Konqueror ignores it. > > > > 4. All my years of Bookmarks of Konqueror:4 gone. I had to import them > > manually. > > > > 5. Network places, gone. > > > > 6. Left hand Panels with Places/Devices/Folders ain't thaa'r. > > > > 7. Konqueror Introduction page, no icons; unless I hover over them, > > hyperlinked titles shown in dark grey over a blue background. I know my > > eye sight is not as good as it used to be, but this is really akin to > > usability sabotage. > > > > The are probably more problems I have not captured above, but my > > experience of konqueror:5 is that of crippleware. I don't know if this > > has anything to do with it, I am not running konqueror on a full plasma > > desktop, but as a stand alone application. Have you observed similar? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Mick > > You should take your complaints to the project's bug tracker. I know > they will take number 7 very seriously, and seeing as you've used the > project for an appreciable amount of time they will likely consider > most of your other issues. > > At the very least they would probably tell you how to do what you > don't know how to do. If they can't insist that there has been a > regression. Thanks R0b0t1, I don't want to darken their doorstep of devs with issues which appear isolated to my systems. Other M/L participants many of whom are running the full Plasma desktop, do not seem to have such problems. So, I'm guessing I must be missing some package or other to complement the required functionality. I'm still on kmail:4 and all menu icons are shown and functionality is not crippled in any way. I fear what might happen when I eventually have to install kmail:5. > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Halfway through the KDE-4 lifecycle it became known that konqueror then > > was essentially without a maintainer in the KDE project. Gut feels tells > > me that has likely not changed and the minimum work was done to get it > > to build under KDE-5. Just gut feel. > > That is a good guess, but there has also been a transition away from > skeuomorphism (traditional desktop icons) to what Google calls > Material Design (which as far as I can tell was actually created by > various experimental Linux projects who had no artists as > contributors, so they just started drawing colored squares). The new > UI for Konquerer may be completely intentional. > > I'd consider this not a failing of material design, which can produce > extremely attractive interfaces, but as a failing of the program; it > does look like there were features removed. To be fair a lot of things > that developers do (after seeing Google support it) such as > discoverable interfaces and minimalist UIs are often done incorrectly > as there tends to be a huge gulf between developers and their users. > > And to everyone: KDE-5 doesn't exist, what you are probably referring > to is Plasma 5. I don't recall calling it KDE-5, but if I did, Plasma 5 devs & users please accept my apologies (old dog ... new tricks). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.
Hello, Mick. On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 20:11:33 +0100, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 18:26:43 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > The saga of my new AMD Ryzen machine: I've installed Gentoo onto > > (mdadam) RAID-1 on two MVMe Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSDs, one of them being > > plugged into the motherboard, the other in a carrier card plugged into > > the second PCIe x16 slot. > > At least, I've got as far as the point where I need to boot into the > > newly installed system. The machine doesn't boot. In its attempts, it > > displays an underline cursor on a blank 80 x 25 screen, flips this > > cursor nearer the middle of the screen once or twice, then hangs. > > The SSDs are partitioned with GPT. The boot loader is grub2. I've > > taken care to follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook to try to > > avoid missing out some little detail. However, I've never used grub2 > > before, so quite possibly I have missed something out. > > It's also possible that the motherboard's BIOS is still too buggy to > > support booting from an NVMe drive. (It's an Asus Prime X370-Pro: I've > > already had to upgrade the BIOS once (to version 0604) to get the > > installation CD to be recognised at all.) > > Asus doesn't have email support, they merely have an http site where one > > can register and ask for help, if one doesn't mind their obnoxious > > ambiguous "privacy" policy. I do mind, particularly after having paid > > good money for a product which is only partially working. > > The BIOS boot sections are puzzling. If I disable what they call > > "OPROM" booting (i.e. MBR), the BIOS no longer displays the three drives > > (two SSDs + DVD) as booting options. There is an ostensible setting > > called "secure boot" which is enabled, and I haven't found any way of > > disabling it. > If you cannot find a way to disable Secure Boot you will need to use a kernel > image which has been digitally signed by RHL, or Microsoft. Have a look here > (random page on Google search): > https://www.howtogeek.com/175641/how-to-boot-and-install-linux-on-a-uefi-pc-with-secure-boot/ > If you obtain the necessary key you should be able to sign your kernel/initrd > and then use these to boot your PC without disabling secure boot. Some > binary > distros RHL/Ubuntu et al probably provide digitally signed images to try. If I can't boot Gentoo, the motherboard goes back to the shop (or into the dustbin). I'm not going to be installing anything which uses a signed image. Still, the CD booted without a signature. Could it be that it will boot from MBR normally, but requires a signature for GPT? > > When I booted from the minimal CD, did it boot in MBR or GPT mode? How > > do I tell? > Check you've disabled your Compatibility Support Module so the MoBo will not > try to use legacy BIOS boot mode with MBR, rather than UEFI. If I disable the CSModule, the BIOS doesn't show the CD drive at all, so I can't boot that way. > After it boots check if you can list the directory /sys/firmware/efi. > If you get a result like this: > $ ls -la /sys/firmware/efi > ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory > you have booted in BIOS mode. That settles it. I've been booting in MBR/BIOS mode. Thanks. > However, if you get a message like this: > $ ls -la /sys/firmware/efi > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 . > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 .. > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 config_table > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 efivars > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 fw_platform_size > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 fw_vendor > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 runtime > -r 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 systab > drwxr-xr-x 134 root root0 Apr 20 20:07 vars > then you have booted a UEFI system. > > Can anybody suggest ideas to get this machine booting? Would > > partitioning the drives with MBR, and trying to boot that way help, for > > example? I really don't want to do that, though, though if it's the > > only way to get my machine booting, I'd do it. > Have you tried booting with one disk only? This should confirm if your set > up > and drivers are appropriate for your hardware. I have tried taking the "secondary" SSD out. It fails to boot in this case exactly as when both SSDs are installed. However, once booted (from the CD), the installation system can read and write the SSDs without problem. There's a setting in the BIOS booting section, where one can indicated whether booting from NVMe is in GPT or MBR mode, so it seems the Asus's intention is to allow booting from an NVMe SSD. > -- > Regards, > Mick -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Mick wrote: > OK, I know life moves on, but this move has been a retrograde step for me. My > konqueror:5 recently updated seems to have a number of problems and > features I am not happy with. Grateful for any pointers to address these. In > no particular order. > > 1. The Bookmarks Toolbar will *always* show up when launching Konqueror. I > deselect Settings/Toolbars Shown/Bookmark Toolbar and relaunch the > application, only to find out my deselection will not stick. > > 2. The menu shows no icons, only text; buttons like open new tab/close current > tab show no icons, making difficult to guess. > > 3. When used as a file manager Konqueror will only open directories or files > if I double click on them. I have set up in systemsettings5 Hardware/Input > Devices/Mouse/Single click to open files and folders. Konqueror ignores it. > > 4. All my years of Bookmarks of Konqueror:4 gone. I had to import them > manually. > > 5. Network places, gone. > > 6. Left hand Panels with Places/Devices/Folders ain't thaa'r. > > 7. Konqueror Introduction page, no icons; unless I hover over them, > hyperlinked titles shown in dark grey over a blue background. I know my eye > sight is not as good as it used to be, but this is really akin to usability > sabotage. > > The are probably more problems I have not captured above, but my experience of > konqueror:5 is that of crippleware. I don't know if this has anything to do > with it, I am not running konqueror on a full plasma desktop, but as a stand > alone application. Have you observed similar? > > -- > Regards, > Mick You should take your complaints to the project's bug tracker. I know they will take number 7 very seriously, and seeing as you've used the project for an appreciable amount of time they will likely consider most of your other issues. At the very least they would probably tell you how to do what you don't know how to do. If they can't insist that there has been a regression. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Halfway through the KDE-4 lifecycle it became known that konqueror then > was essentially without a maintainer in the KDE project. Gut feels tells > me that has likely not changed and the minimum work was done to get it > to build under KDE-5. Just gut feel. > That is a good guess, but there has also been a transition away from skeuomorphism (traditional desktop icons) to what Google calls Material Design (which as far as I can tell was actually created by various experimental Linux projects who had no artists as contributors, so they just started drawing colored squares). The new UI for Konquerer may be completely intentional. I'd consider this not a failing of material design, which can produce extremely attractive interfaces, but as a failing of the program; it does look like there were features removed. To be fair a lot of things that developers do (after seeing Google support it) such as discoverable interfaces and minimalist UIs are often done incorrectly as there tends to be a huge gulf between developers and their users. And to everyone: KDE-5 doesn't exist, what you are probably referring to is Plasma 5.
Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.
On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 18:26:43 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > The saga of my new AMD Ryzen machine: I've installed Gentoo onto > (mdadam) RAID-1 on two MVMe Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSDs, one of them being > plugged into the motherboard, the other in a carrier card plugged into > the second PCIe x16 slot. > > At least, I've got as far as the point where I need to boot into the > newly installed system. The machine doesn't boot. In its attempts, it > displays an underline cursor on a blank 80 x 25 screen, flips this > cursor nearer the middle of the screen once or twice, then hangs. > > The SSDs are partitioned with GPT. The boot loader is grub2. I've > taken care to follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook to try to > avoid missing out some little detail. However, I've never used grub2 > before, so quite possibly I have missed something out. > > It's also possible that the motherboard's BIOS is still too buggy to > support booting from an NVMe drive. (It's an Asus Prime X370-Pro: I've > already had to upgrade the BIOS once (to version 0604) to get the > installation CD to be recognised at all.) > > Asus doesn't have email support, they merely have an http site where one > can register and ask for help, if one doesn't mind their obnoxious > ambiguous "privacy" policy. I do mind, particularly after having paid > good money for a product which is only partially working. > > The BIOS boot sections are puzzling. If I disable what they call > "OPROM" booting (i.e. MBR), the BIOS no longer displays the three drives > (two SSDs + DVD) as booting options. There is an ostensible setting > called "secure boot" which is enabled, and I haven't found any way of > disabling it. If you cannot find a way to disable Secure Boot you will need to use a kernel image which has been digitally signed by RHL, or Microsoft. Have a look here (random page on Google search): https://www.howtogeek.com/175641/how-to-boot-and-install-linux-on-a-uefi-pc-with-secure-boot/ If you obtain the necessary key you should be able to sign your kernel/initrd and then use these to boot your PC without disabling secure boot. Some binary distros RHL/Ubuntu et al probably provide digitally signed images to try. > When I booted from the minimal CD, did it boot in MBR or GPT mode? How > do I tell? Check you've disabled your Compatibility Support Module so the MoBo will not try to use legacy BIOS boot mode with MBR, rather than UEFI. After it boots check if you can list the directory /sys/firmware/efi. If you get a result like this: $ ls -la /sys/firmware/efi ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory you have booted in BIOS mode. However, if you get a message like this: $ ls -la /sys/firmware/efi total 0 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 config_table drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 Apr 20 17:28 efivars -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 fw_platform_size -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 fw_vendor -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 runtime -r 1 root root 4096 Apr 20 20:07 systab drwxr-xr-x 134 root root0 Apr 20 20:07 vars then you have booted a UEFI system. > Can anybody suggest ideas to get this machine booting? Would > partitioning the drives with MBR, and trying to boot that way help, for > example? I really don't want to do that, though, though if it's the > only way to get my machine booting, I'd do it. Have you tried booting with one disk only? This should confirm if your set up and drivers are appropriate for your hardware. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.
Hello, Gentoo. The saga of my new AMD Ryzen machine: I've installed Gentoo onto (mdadam) RAID-1 on two MVMe Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSDs, one of them being plugged into the motherboard, the other in a carrier card plugged into the second PCIe x16 slot. At least, I've got as far as the point where I need to boot into the newly installed system. The machine doesn't boot. In its attempts, it displays an underline cursor on a blank 80 x 25 screen, flips this cursor nearer the middle of the screen once or twice, then hangs. The SSDs are partitioned with GPT. The boot loader is grub2. I've taken care to follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook to try to avoid missing out some little detail. However, I've never used grub2 before, so quite possibly I have missed something out. It's also possible that the motherboard's BIOS is still too buggy to support booting from an NVMe drive. (It's an Asus Prime X370-Pro: I've already had to upgrade the BIOS once (to version 0604) to get the installation CD to be recognised at all.) Asus doesn't have email support, they merely have an http site where one can register and ask for help, if one doesn't mind their obnoxious ambiguous "privacy" policy. I do mind, particularly after having paid good money for a product which is only partially working. The BIOS boot sections are puzzling. If I disable what they call "OPROM" booting (i.e. MBR), the BIOS no longer displays the three drives (two SSDs + DVD) as booting options. There is an ostensible setting called "secure boot" which is enabled, and I haven't found any way of disabling it. When I booted from the minimal CD, did it boot in MBR or GPT mode? How do I tell? Can anybody suggest ideas to get this machine booting? Would partitioning the drives with MBR, and trying to boot that way help, for example? I really don't want to do that, though, though if it's the only way to get my machine booting, I'd do it. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
170420 Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: >> On Wednesday 19 Apr 2017 19:14:10 Philip Webb wrote: >>> I've never used Konqueror as a file-manager, but regularly use Krusader, >>> which I strongly recommend for all heavy-lifting of files/directories. >> Thanks Philip, I had used Krusader in the past and you encouraged me to give >> it another spin. Icons for menus still don't show up and no matter what I >> select under Panels/Selection Mode, it still requires double click to open >> files or directories. Plus it has no side panel for switching fast to other >> places, remote servers, et al. > It did the same when I peeked in on it too. For me, this worked. > Settings, Configure Krusader, Panels, Selection Mode. The check Obey > KDE's Global Selection Policy. It's not a easy setting to find > when you go blindly looking for it. If like me you have KDE set > to single click, a single click should open things up. Krusader worked properly with Fluxbox, so it shouldn't need KDE desktop, but you're correct that you need to go carefully thro' its config options. There are fast-switching options, but you may have to look for them : you can set bookmarks at the top of each panel, which I use to access an external site via Fuse among other places, & there's an option to call up a directory tree. The Krusader WWW site has a PDF manual you can download. Take a bit of time to look at everything Krusader offers. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you emerge emacs 25 with xwidgets support?
> > >On 2017-04-20 14:48, Raffaele Belardi wrote: >> Danny YUE wrote: >Still not working. > >BTW I got: >~ $ euse -i -l xwidgets >local use flags (searching: xwidgets) > >[- ] xwidgets >app-editors/emacs: Enable use of GTK widgets in Emacs buffers >(requires GTK3) > (18) 18.59-r11 [gentoo] > (23) 23.4-r14 [gentoo] > (23) 23.4-r15 [gentoo] > (24) 24.4-r4 [gentoo] > (24) 24.5-r3 [gentoo] >[+P ] (25) 25.1 [gentoo] >[+P ] (25) 25.2_rc1 [gentoo] >[+P ] (25) 25.2_rc2 [gentoo] > >[- ] xwidgets >app-editors/emacs-vcs: Enable use of GTK widgets in Emacs buffers >(requires GTK3) >[- ] (25) 25.1.91 [gentoo] >[- ] (25) 25.2. [gentoo] >[- ] (26) 26.0. [gentoo] > >It seems strange...euse tells me there is a xwidgets USE for emacs, but >equery says something different. > >Weird... app-editors/emacs and app-editors/emacs-vcs are different packages (with different use flags). DaveF > >Danny >
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you emerge emacs 25 with xwidgets support?
Danny YUE wrote: Hi guys, Maybe I am too stupid, but how can you emerge emacs-25 with xwidgets? # USE=xwidgets emerge -v emacs These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] app-editors/emacs-25.2_rc2:25::gentoo USE="X alsa dbus gif gpm gtk gtk3 inotify jpeg png ssl svg tiff xpm zlib -Xaw3d -acl (-aqua) -athena (-cairo) -dynamic-loading -games -gconf -gfile -gsettings -gzip-el -hesiod -imagemagick -kerberos -libxml2 -livecd -m17n-lib -motif -pax_kernel (-selinux) -sound -source -toolkit-scroll-bars -wide-int -xft (-xwidgets)" 0 KiB The parentheses indicate that the flag is 'forced, masked, or removed' (from man emerge) so it is ignored on purpose. I have no idea why. raffaele
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you emerge emacs 25 with xwidgets support?
On 2017-04-20 14:48, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Danny YUE wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Maybe I am too stupid, but how can you emerge emacs-25 with xwidgets? >> >> Running `equey use emacs' shows: >> ~ $ equery u emacs >> [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation] >> [: I - package is installed with flag ] >> [ Colors : set, unset ] >> * Found these USE flags for app-editors/emacs-25.2_rc2: > ... >> >> Where is the xwidgets USE flag? >> >> I can see it by running `eix -e emacs' but setting that flag does not >> work. >> >> `USE=xwidgets emerge -a emacs' does not work. >> >> Any idea? Thanks in advance for any clue. >> >> Danny >> >> . >> > > $ euse -i -l xwidgets > local use flags (searching: xwidgets) > > [- ] xwidgets > app-editors/emacs: Enable use of GTK widgets in Emacs buffers > (requires GTK3) >(18) 18.59-r11 [gentoo] >(23) 23.4-r14 [gentoo] >(23) 23.4-r15 [gentoo] >(24) 24.4-r4 [gentoo] >(24) 24.5-r3 [gentoo] > [- ] (25) 25.1 [gentoo] > [- ] (25) 25.2_rc1 [gentoo] > [- ] (25) 25.2_rc2 [gentoo] > > > Maybe you need to set gtk3 also? > > raffaele Thanks for the quick reply. Well, my emacs was already built with gtk3. I wanted to try xwidget browser out just now, but found no corresponding USE flag. Corresponding line in package.use: app-editors/emacs xft imagemagick libxml2 gtk3 xwidgets Still not working. BTW I got: ~ $ euse -i -l xwidgets local use flags (searching: xwidgets) [- ] xwidgets app-editors/emacs: Enable use of GTK widgets in Emacs buffers (requires GTK3) (18) 18.59-r11 [gentoo] (23) 23.4-r14 [gentoo] (23) 23.4-r15 [gentoo] (24) 24.4-r4 [gentoo] (24) 24.5-r3 [gentoo] [+P ] (25) 25.1 [gentoo] [+P ] (25) 25.2_rc1 [gentoo] [+P ] (25) 25.2_rc2 [gentoo] [- ] xwidgets app-editors/emacs-vcs: Enable use of GTK widgets in Emacs buffers (requires GTK3) [- ] (25) 25.1.91 [gentoo] [- ] (25) 25.2. [gentoo] [- ] (26) 26.0. [gentoo] It seems strange...euse tells me there is a xwidgets USE for emacs, but equery says something different. Weird... Danny
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you emerge emacs 25 with xwidgets support?
Danny YUE wrote: Hi guys, Maybe I am too stupid, but how can you emerge emacs-25 with xwidgets? Running `equey use emacs' shows: ~ $ equery u emacs [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation] [: I - package is installed with flag ] [ Colors : set, unset ] * Found these USE flags for app-editors/emacs-25.2_rc2: ... Where is the xwidgets USE flag? I can see it by running `eix -e emacs' but setting that flag does not work. `USE=xwidgets emerge -a emacs' does not work. Any idea? Thanks in advance for any clue. Danny . $ euse -i -l xwidgets local use flags (searching: xwidgets) [- ] xwidgets app-editors/emacs: Enable use of GTK widgets in Emacs buffers (requires GTK3) (18) 18.59-r11 [gentoo] (23) 23.4-r14 [gentoo] (23) 23.4-r15 [gentoo] (24) 24.4-r4 [gentoo] (24) 24.5-r3 [gentoo] [- ] (25) 25.1 [gentoo] [- ] (25) 25.2_rc1 [gentoo] [- ] (25) 25.2_rc2 [gentoo] Maybe you need to set gtk3 also? raffaele
[gentoo-user] How do you emerge emacs 25 with xwidgets support?
Hi guys, Maybe I am too stupid, but how can you emerge emacs-25 with xwidgets? Running `equey use emacs' shows: ~ $ equery u emacs [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation] [: I - package is installed with flag ] [ Colors : set, unset ] * Found these USE flags for app-editors/emacs-25.2_rc2: U I + + X : Add support for X11 - - Xaw3d : Add support for the 3d athena widget set + + acl : Add support for Access Control Lists + + alsa: Add support for media-libs/alsa-lib (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) - - athena : Enable the MIT Athena widget set (x11-libs/libXaw) + + dbus: Enable dbus support for anything that needs it (gpsd, gnomemeeting, etc) - - dynamic-loading : Enable loading of dynamic libraries at runtime - - games : Support shared score files for games - - gconf : Use gnome-base/gconf to read the system font name - - gfile : Use gfile (dev-libs/glib) for file notification + + gif : Add GIF image support + + gpm : Add support for sys-libs/gpm (Console-based mouse driver) - - gsettings : Use gsettings (dev-libs/glib) to read the system font name - - gtk : Add support for x11-libs/gtk+ (The GIMP Toolkit) + + gtk3: Prefer version 3 of the GIMP Toolkit to version 2 (x11-libs/gtk+) - - gzip-el : Compress bundled Emacs Lisp source - - hesiod : Enable support for net-dns/hesiod + + imagemagick : Use media-gfx/imagemagick for image processing + + inotify : Enable inotify filesystem monitoring support + + jpeg: Add JPEG image support - - kerberos: Add kerberos support + + libxml2 : Use dev-libs/libxml2 to parse XML instead of the internal Lisp implementations - - livecd : !!internal use only!! DO NOT SET THIS FLAG YOURSELF!, used during livecd building - - m17n-lib: Enable m17n-lib support - - motif : Add support for the Motif toolkit - - pax_kernel : Enable building under a PaX enabled kernel + + png : Add support for libpng (PNG images) - - sound : Enable sound support - - source : Install C source files and make them available for find-function + + ssl : Add support for Secure Socket Layer connections + + svg : Add support for SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) + + tiff: Add support for the TIFF image format - - toolkit-scroll-bars : Use the selected toolkit's scrollbars in preference to Emacs' own scrollbars - - wide-int: Prefer wide Emacs integers (typically 62-bit). This option has an effect only on architectures where "long" and "long long" types have different size. + + xft : Build with support for XFT font renderer (x11-libs/libXft) + + xpm : Add support for XPM graphics format + + zlib: Add support for zlib (de)compression Where is the xwidgets USE flag? I can see it by running `eix -e emacs' but setting that flag does not work. `USE=xwidgets emerge -a emacs' does not work. Any idea? Thanks in advance for any clue. Danny
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 19 Apr 2017 19:14:10 Philip Webb wrote: >> 170419 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> I gave up on konqueror as a browser during KDE-3 and switched to Dolphin >>> as file manager in KDE-4. Have you considered that? >> I've never used Konqueror as a file-manager, but regularly use Krusader, >> which I strongly recommend for all heavy-lifting of files/directories. > Thanks Philip, I had used Krusader in the past and you encouraged me to give > it another spin. Icons for menus still don't show up and no matter what I > select under Panels/Selection Mode, it still requires double click to open > files or directories. Plus it has no side panel for switching fast to other > places, remote servers, et al. > > I am probably missing some specific Plasma packages to control all this, > which > my selective installation of meta packages hasn't dragged in (yet). It did the same when I peeked in on it too. For me, this worked. Settings, Configure Krusader, Panels, Selection Mode. The check Obey KDE's Global Selection Policy. It's not a easy setting to find when you go blindly looking for it. If like me you have KDE set to single click, a single click should open things up. By the way, I stopped using Konqueror a while back. It just seems so broken compared to what it used to be. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] netifrc, configure by SSID and MAC simultaneously?
Op 20-4-2017 om 01:16 schreef Peter Humphrey: On Wednesday 19 Apr 2017 12:00:50 Neil Bothwick wrote: If you have an always on computer on your network, I would recommend trying dnsmasq. It has a DHCP server and means you can do all your network configuration in the one place, with simple text config files. +1. I've been using it for some years. Nice. I installed DD-WRT on my router some time ago, and have dnsmasq running on that. Works like a charm.
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
On Wednesday 19 Apr 2017 19:14:10 Philip Webb wrote: > 170419 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I gave up on konqueror as a browser during KDE-3 and switched to Dolphin > > as file manager in KDE-4. Have you considered that? > > I've never used Konqueror as a file-manager, but regularly use Krusader, > which I strongly recommend for all heavy-lifting of files/directories. Thanks Philip, I had used Krusader in the past and you encouraged me to give it another spin. Icons for menus still don't show up and no matter what I select under Panels/Selection Mode, it still requires double click to open files or directories. Plus it has no side panel for switching fast to other places, remote servers, et al. I am probably missing some specific Plasma packages to control all this, which my selective installation of meta packages hasn't dragged in (yet). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Palemoon with gcc-5 without issues WAS: Palemoon again - again
On Wednesday 19 Apr 2017 00:51:00 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 18 Apr 2017 17:04:16 Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170418-09:17+, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > If you are certain you don't have gcc in slot 5.x installed. You can > > > add palemoon to /etc/portage/package.unmask > > > > "If" is what I would start with. Because it's hard to believe. Possible, > > but I'd be more believing if I saw 'emerge --info' and 'gcc-config -l' > > of that machine in that time. > > peak ~ # gcc-config -l > [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.9.4 * > peak ~ # > > I say again: I have just the one version of GCC installed. And it isn't > 5.x either. Why is that hard to accept? Hah! And now of course portage has just offered me version 5.4.0-r3. Ho-hum. -- Regards Peter
[gentoo-user] Re: konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!
Mick wrote: > OK, I know life moves on, but this move has been a retrograde step for me. > My konqueror:5 recently updated seems to have a number of problems and > > features I am not happy with. Grateful for any pointers to address these. > In no particular order. > > 1. The Bookmarks Toolbar will *always* show up when launching Konqueror. > I deselect Settings/Toolbars Shown/Bookmark Toolbar and relaunch the > application, only to find out my deselection will not stick. > > 2. The menu shows no icons, only text; buttons like open new tab/close > current tab show no icons, making difficult to guess. > > 3. When used as a file manager Konqueror will only open directories or > files > if I double click on them. I have set up in systemsettings5 > Hardware/Input > Devices/Mouse/Single click to open files and folders. Konqueror ignores > it. > > 4. All my years of Bookmarks of Konqueror:4 gone. I had to import them > manually. > > 5. Network places, gone. > > 6. Left hand Panels with Places/Devices/Folders ain't thaa'r. > > 7. Konqueror Introduction page, no icons; unless I hover over them, > hyperlinked titles shown in dark grey over a blue background. I know my > eye sight is not as good as it used to be, but this is really akin to > usability sabotage. I am missing the support for man: and info: protocols. Do I need now some additional package? Cheers, Jörg
