[gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile

2009-10-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

   [1]   default/linux/x86/10.0 *
   [2]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop
   [3]   default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
   [4]   default/linux/x86/10.0/server
   [5]   hardened/linux/x86/10.0
   [6]   selinux/2007.0/x86
   [7]   selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
   [8]   selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
   [9]   selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
   [10]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
   [11]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
   [12]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
 rattus ~ #

 In almost all cases [2] or [4] is a better choice than [1]

Alan, what does it get you?  In fact what does `developer' buy you?




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT Xfce4/KDE] A URL aware applet

2009-10-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz writes:

 Then, whenever I know I have some url selected (I don't need an applet
 to tell me) I just have to press the key combination and off it
 goes. :-)

Thanks for the input and example.
The applet I'm remembering was very unobtrusive... the one recommended
here by hp_sebastian.. also is very unobtrusive.




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT Xfce4/KDE] A URL aware applet

2009-10-18 Thread Harry Putnam
hp_sebastian hp_sebast...@supersein.de writes:


 xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman-plugin

Thank, that looks pretty flexible.




[gentoo-user] [OT Xfce4/KDE] A URL aware applet

2009-10-17 Thread Harry Putnam
I once was a KDE desktop user... Lasted quite a while.  But over time
I went to Xfce4 Been using it now a good while, but one applet
from KDE is sorely missed.  

There was some kind of panel applet, that was URL aware.  Any time you
highlighted text that looked like some kind of URL, a dialog window would
open and offer to open it with whatever application normally opened
such a URL.  

You might highlight a URL in a man page, text file, or even in the
scrollback buffer and the dialog would be right there offering to open
it. 

I wondered if there is anything like that for Xfce and if anyone knows
what that applet it?

I am awaiting an answer from Xfce user list on the same question.




[gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Zhengquan Zhang zhang.zhengq...@gmail.com writes:

 2009/10/9 Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net:
 Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo users,
 I am new to gentoo and am wondering if there is a command to show
 where a package is installed? which file is installed in which
 directory?

 Thanks a lot,

 emerge app-portage/portage-utils and go with qlist package

 Exactly, Thanks a bunch,

There is also `equery'

emerge app-portage/gentoolkit


equery files pkgname (without version number)

It can do a few things that q can't and vice-versa if I recall
correctly. 




[gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?

2009-10-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:

 Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo users,
 I am new to gentoo and am wondering if there is a command to show
 where a package is installed? which file is installed in which
 directory?

 Thanks a lot,

   

 I'm not sure this is what you are talking about but this may help:

 equery files package name

 emerge gentoolkit for that command.

Gack... sorry Dale ... somehow I didn't see that you had already
mentioned equery.




[gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org writes:

 I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it

 Alt-SysRq and then REISUB

And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard?




[gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:

 I also know the SysReq key trick now.  It can take you back to a console.

I'll bite ... what is it?




[gentoo-user] about layman and eix search

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
How to make eix search an overlay too.

The manpage for layman says:

   You can search through the ebuilds available in the overlays on
   http://overlays.gentoo.org by using eix. Emerge the package and
   run update-eix-remote update.

But I find no such option in eix or eix --help|grep update
or 'man eix' although I do find eix-remote and eix-layman.

But not at all clear if either of those can cause eix to search
overlays. 

I don't see any likely use flags to change either at:
 emerge -vp eix:
  [ebuild   R   ] app-portage/eix-0.18.0  
  USE=bzip2 nls -deprecated -doc -sqlite -tools 0 kB

It must be common task for people using overlays... so anyone know how
its done.




[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes:


[...]


 Well, it sounds like you know more about the subject than I do, but
 do you know about smbmount that comes as part of samba?  Seems to me
 like that's what you're asking for.

 I had forgotten about smbmount but that too is not the same as being
 able to cd around with cd //host/share...

 Hm.  I'm wondering if you come from a Windows background and are new
 to the world of *ix? 

I started my computer life on linux 1996.. only moved to windows for
some things when editing video (I like the adobe tools... and linux
just doesn't have anything remotely comparable.)

I admit having a very thick skull, but I also have quite a lot of time
on linux and solaris...so a little has soaked into even my thick
skull.  

It took me quite a while to learn much about windows.  And it still
seems horribly awkward... especially when moving around in the file
system. Its so much slower and time wasting to have to navigate by
clickety clack in something like the navigation windows that open for
on most applications..

I most windows applications, if you want to load a new file... the
navigation starts at My Documents... a place where just about nothing
I do should be kept.  So you must navigate to wherever it is over and
over, while working on windows.  I do know a few short cuts to use
but still the basic fact is that overtime a very lot of time goes
into just moving around on winows.

 ..  That's the only way I can make sense of the
 paragraph above.

Maybe because you left out most of it?

 I had forgotten about smbmount but that too is not the same as being
 able to cd around with cd //host/share
 smbmount adds another layer of complexity... and something more to
 umount or maintain in mounted state... would also add a few more
 characters to each address.

 In order to cd to a file system (like smbfs) that file system must
 first be 'mounted' on a mount-point e.g. /mnt/ or /shares/ or wherever
 you choose to put it.  That mounting can be automated and transparent
 to the user, as Dirk said, but it must be done somehow before you can
 cd to it.

Hence my comment smbmount adds another layer of complexity...
Hence my comment would also add a few more characters to each
address. 

Someone has to configure it... and manintain it thru a  new install.
If or when that comes up.  It may not be terribly difficult... but it
does need to be done.

 Just like partitons like /root, /var, /tmp, /usr, /home and the rest
 must be mounted before they can be used by anyone, including the OS.
 This is done automatically during bootup so you don't need to do it
 yourself.  Same with network shares.

Its done automatically only if you make that happen by some
configuration.  It may be worth it though... and like I said.. I'd
forgotten about smbmount and really have never gotten envolved with
automounting things...other than one major nfs share keep on a solaris
zfs server.

automounting is somewhat new in linux... it was not commonly used when
I started out.

 I hope I'm not misunderstanding and giving you an unneeded lecture :o)

Its always a good thing to have the basics hammered into your head.

You might notice that most boxing matches are won by really basic
techniques like keeping that jab out there.  Or slipping punches that
would really do damage if you didn't know how to move with it when you
can. 

So no harm revisiting basic stuff. 

Maybe you didn't notice my reference to cygwin bash on windows being
able to navigate via UNC.

It takes only creating shares to offer thru samba, for cygwin bash to
be able to navigate them with cd //host/share.  No mounting, or if
there is, I didn't have to specifically configure it.

Smb is native to windows... so maybe that is the reason.




[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes:

 Emacs is said to be able to do this using tramp but I haven't ever
 gotten it to work.

 Konqueror can do it... but I don't run kde, and don't really want to
 fiddle with it in that direction.

 Midnight Commander can do it.

Haa, there is an old time tool... what do I need to use  in `eix' to
find it.

`eix midnight' fails as does `eix commander'

Does it have a different name in portage?

I did find a vimcommander... maybe that will have the functionality
too, since it says it has a commander style interface.




[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes:

 Hmm, Not commonly used, don't know. First versions of autofs date back to 
 April 97, amd is much older, I think. So no, automounting is NOT new in 
 Linux, 
 it's there for over a decade now.

At nearly 70, I can call a decade `fairly recent'.

I have to beg to differ here... I don't mean your statements about when
it appeared...

Linux is much older than 1997... and as I said I started a little
before that... At that time there were not many users at all not to
mention users using automounting. I'd hazard a guess that total users
was not much over 150,000 or so... just an idle guess though.

The newbies like me were definitely not using it linux then took much
more config than it does today... even on gentoo today.  You could easily
spend 2 or more wks getting X up... or even getting it to boot.

Building your own kernel was well out of the grasp of newbies at that
time.

So in that atmosphere... its not true that automount was in common use.




[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes:

 Hi,

 I really wonder about this discussion. This tool can do it, that
tool can do it, the other one, too. WTF?

No problem, don't read it.

 Just mount the damn share and _EVERY_ tool can access it. So what?

Settle down bub... you're not in a barroom here.  Ease up.




[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de writes:

 Am Samstag 03 Oktober 2009 17:31:28 schrieb Harry Putnam:
 `eix midnight' fails as does `eix commander'
 
 Does it have a different name in portage?

 No, it has the same name as everywhere: mc ;-)

Dirk, Your wisacre additions are really starting to wear on me.  Have
you been on a binge or something... and need a few days rest.

If it had the same name everywhere... Paul Hartman wouldn't have
called it `Midnight Commander' would he.

So it has at least 2 names   Jesus bud, lighten up or quit the
thread,  if it getting to be too much for you.




[gentoo-user] Re: about layman and eix search

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Roy Wright r...@wright.org writes:

 update-eix-remote is an executable, not an option to the eix
 executable.  After running update-eix-remote your normal eix queries
 will include overlays.

Ha.. no wonder I didn't find it.

However its not a part of the eix package nor is it visible on
portage.  At least 

equery files eix|grep remote fails to show it and

`eix eix-remote' fails as well.




[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes:


[...]

 Nifty, I didn't know that.  Amazing what mc can do.  Couple of points
 that are not obvious in case Harry wants to try mc:  it needs to be
 compiled with the samba USE flag set;  and you access your samba shares
 using the Right or Left dropdown menus at the top of the mc window.

Thanks... 

I never liked mc even in the old days...  always preferring the cmd
line or emacs, But that aside yes it does work.  And just for your own
info you can cd around direct from the cmd line too... just need the
right syntax... and get prompted for a passwd.

 (cd /#smb:host/share)

But the interface is so far removed from a common shell prompt and
seems really crippled by comparison, that it would take more than a
little diddling around to get some real use out of it.  Appears not to
have cmd memory or readline type history at the cmd prompt... at least
not by default or with some reasonable key press.

Also it appears not to be able to execute commands on non-local fs. 

After cd'ing into a remote machine and being prompted for passwd... if
I type `ls' enter it brings up a red error saying 

   Error!  
Cannot execute commands on non-local filesystems.

Maybe all this can be configured away I don't think I want to mess
with it really... but yes it does have the capability.





[gentoo-user] Re: about layman and eix search

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes:

[...]

 It must be common task for people using overlays... so anyone know how
 its done.

 Hi,

 Create the file /etc/eix-sync.conf with this one character in it:
 *

 Then you can simply run eix-sync to automatically sync your overlays,
 main portage tree, and update the EIX cache. Afterward it will show
 you what is new or has changed. No need to run layman -S or emerge
 --sync ever again. :)

 Also, if you have any overlays that don't include metadata, you can
 add lines like this beneath the asterisk in eix-sync.conf to make it
 generate cache for them:
 !egencache --repo=theoverlayname --update

 At least that's how I do it.

Nice... 

I do use eix-sync for a good while now... but had not synced since
installing layman... and found the out of date directions posted
earlier. ... I didn't realize eix-sync would synchronize overlays
too... I've never had an overlay before. ... I'm setting up `sunshine'
now thanks.





[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Walker n...@ep.mine.nu writes:

 Linux is much older than 1997... 

 Not at all. [...]

I really meant unix... where most of linux cmds and base tools comes
from.  But as people do unix/linux is often thought of as one kind of
thing.

[...]

 Hmm. Most of the people who used (actually, played with because it
 wasn't a usable operating
 system until much later) Linux in the early days came from Minix.
 Remember that? Newbies
 to Linux were not newbies to computers and operating systems. Far from
 it, most were pretty
 adept DOS hackers.

[...]

 You seem to have entirely forgotten what Linux actually was in the
 1990s. It was actually a hacker's
 paradise. There were NO newbies in the sense of people who were new to
 computers using Linux. The
 very nature of Linux users in those days was that they were
 experimental, had some (if not considerable)
 knowledge and were keen to try any new gizmo that came along and, if
 there wasn't one, develop their
  own. Indeed, that's exactly how and why Linux is where it is now.

No I didn't forget...

I knew nothing whatever about a computer in the 90s you are talking
about. My only knowledge of a computer came from things like seeing
the girl at the unemployment office bring up my records.  And not even
all unemployment offices had computers yet.

My first encounter with a computer or home computing started in
1996. Right from scratch.

I think you've got this a little back assward.. lots of commentary
with `quite honestly, `definitely not' and other sorts of comments
indicating a deep knowledge are a bunch of hooey. 

You may remember some things... but you do not have a good picture of
what the lower echelons was like.  

That hardcore of experimenters that are the folks who really put linux
on the map was growing rapidly..  Just as the new user base was. 

In the yrs I mentioned (96 upward) newbies were flocking to linux.
Some old timers complained about it bitterly on linux News/Mail
groups.  How the linux network was getting watered down with a bunch
of numbskulls and etc.

 FWIW, I have been involved with computers one way or another since 1969
 (a few months before Man
 set foot upon the moon).

Then you would have had quite a different view of the lower levels of
the linux movement.  And it was a movement then...

Yes there were a hard core of quite adept hackers... many of them were
very willing to offer help to newcomers back then.  All the main mail
groups or newsgroups had a cadre of true experts... much like today. 

That core of experienced grew quickly too.

There were lots of meetings around the country of the `lugs' where newer
people brought machines and more experienced users helped them get an
OS on it and running.  You don't hear that anymore, the OSs are much
easier to install and configure.

One guy from Alaska... whos name I have forgotten... took me in hand
for several wks... walked me thru lots of stuff off the lists. and
even by phone with me in California, It's really a shame I've
forgotten his name... kind of embarrassing, because he spent a good
bit of time coaching me for a while.

But the influx was already growing quickly as can be seen from the
huge user base that happened in those 10-12 yrs.  So at least from 96
on your picture ain't cutting it.  I'd guess the user base expanded
several hundred percent from say 95 to 2005.

To say there weren't linux newbies is silly. Not to mention wrong.  




[gentoo-user] About layman... and the color output

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
New to layman but after at least a semi-careful look thru man layman I
don't find anything explaining what the different color asterisks
mean.

I didn't read every word but scanned the whole thing twice and did a
few searchs like /color  and /output

But those didn't do much good.
Anyone know what red/green/yellow signify... level of caution?




[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linux as a first platform? Was: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes:

 In separate posts, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I started my computer life on linux 1996.. only moved to windows for
 some things when editing video (I like the adobe tools... and linux
 just doesn't have anything remotely comparable.)
 ...

 I knew nothing whatever about a computer in the 90s you are talking
 about. My only knowledge of a computer came from things like seeing
 the girl at the unemployment office bring up my records.  And not even
 all unemployment offices had computers yet.

 My first encounter with a computer or home computing started in
 1996. Right from scratch.

 Hi there,

 Out of curiosity, why did you choose Linux as your first platform?

[...]

 My family had a BBC Micro as a home computer when I was a kid and then
 later (but still late 1980s) a 286 or so running DOS, but I returned
 to computing at around the same time, 1996. Someone gave me an old PC
 which I got running and I then did my first self-build of a c 150mhz
 Pentium-class system.

 At that time it seemed obvious to me to install Windows 95. I had
 used Windows 3.1 at the mother-in-law's on a handful of occasions, and
 seen it in other people's offices. Win95 had been released with
 fanfare the previous year.

Quite an interesting story.  

 I can only guess that you had some previous background in electronics,
 because I did not learn of Linux until c 2000 (although I was inactive
 in computing for a couple of years 1998 - 1999). Until then (pretty
 much) as far as I was concerned, all PCs run DOS or Windows.

 Could you possibly explain what led to to choose Linux as your first
 platform? I would love to hear from anyone else who has managed to
 completely skip the mainstream o/s (by which I mean Windows and Mac).

Sure... nothing more inviting to a windbag than a request to talk
about himself...

My background may be a bit different from most computer oriented
people.

I was born in Wyoming.  Way out in the boonies.  Things there were
backward even for the times.  We had no Electricity or running water.
Left there at age 7.

Later after our family had moved first to Las Vegas and then to
California. I became a helper in a big shipyard in San Diego.  My dad
worked there and helped me get the job... I was 17.

I learned the trade of welding... which carried me pretty much the
rest of my life.  I quit high school about that same time.  And only
got my GED years and years later when I was about 50.

I moved to Chicago in 1972 and thru work in a local shipyard... now
gone, I became a construction boilermaker.  Working in power plants and
refineries all around the midwest and west.

So I have no higher education... every little bit I managed to get
thru my hard head is self taught... or maybe taught by help lists and
reading along with lots of experimentation.

So, finally cutting to the chase now, I got a divorce around 1987 and
went back out to California where union construction wages for
boilermakers was quite a lot higher.

After a couple years I got together with a girl out there and started
seeing a lot of her... around 1992.  By 1994 we were married... 

She worked as a clerical worker on the campus of the University of Cal
at Santa Barbara... (a job had brought me up their from the LA area
around 1992. Building an Exxon refinery about 20 miles north of Santa
Barbara.  It turned in to a 2 yr stint which is a long time on one
project for a boilermaker... our jobs are usually measured in a few
mnths or less).

She worked with computers every day.. but I still knew nothing
whatever about them.  She also was very good friends with a couple for
yrs, The guy was the `network' guy for UCSB a network system admin on
most of there computer networks.  Largely unix of one stripe or
another.

(Yeah I'm finally getting there) 

Over a yr or two I too became very good friends with him.  As it
turned out he had a son who was a troublesome handful.. a kid about 13
or so at the time.  Me and this kid hit it off pretty well and I sort
of took it on myself to try to help him along... it turned out he did
more helping along than I did.

He was a linux advocate... a slackware guy, having learned about Unix
from his dad.. and I guess Linux too..  It was really him who got
me interested  I started to see where that `computer stuff' was
really nothing more than a very highly developed tool.

I was a guy who liked good tools and had used many of every
description.  My young friend taught me very basic scripting and from
there it was a love affair... I saw it as a really advanced and
adjustable tool.  I'll admit it has been quite a battle.  That young
man was an order of magnitude brighter than me so he was getting well
into it... but I caught hell for several yrs still really.

I've got to admit to finding it very hard to learn my way around with
computer languages...Or admin'ing linux, at that time the languages
weren't really even programming languages (I mean the ones I took up)
just

[gentoo-user] Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Do we have tools other than Konqueror that are aware of smb/UNK
addressing?

Before you answer please note that:
I know about ssh
I know about fuse
I know about mount -tcifs

I'd really like to be able to use UNK addressing from the cmd line.

  cd //host/share

I don't now how many of you have noticed but bash shell from cygwin on
windows has that capability built in.  Or maybe it comes from windows
env. 
  You can do `cd //linux-host/share' in a bash terminal

If command line smb/UNK is not on without lots of diddling around, what
about some file managing tool that does it like Konqueror does.

Emacs is said to be able to do this using tramp but I haven't ever
gotten it to work.

Konqueror can do it... but I don't run kde, and don't really want to
fiddle with it in that direction.





[gentoo-user] Re: Am I wrong?..

2009-10-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:

 Grant Edwards wrote:
 SNIP
  and my brain just doesn't
 work the way vi does.

   

 I'm with you Grant. Mine doesn't work that way either.

You guys do know that Bill Joy was lopsided drunk when he wrote the
bulk of vi ... right? (or so it is said by oldtimers)

Nobodys' brain works that way on purpose... You have to make it happen
with practice (or alcohol).  I should know... I've been practicing for
12 yrs and tried the alcohol technique before becoming a teetotaller
some time earlier, and still a very long ways from being an adept.  Or
even a competent for that matter.

But still compared to nano, even just the basic open file/ write to
file/ close file... is done better and easier from vi.

Someone mentioned being surprised to find nano the default in stage3.

I was surprised too.  My first gentoo installs were several yrs ago
now so I expect it now, but it did surprise me quite a bit that first
time. I'd already been through the grease with vi so could do basic
stuff well enough by that time.

However, all that said... it still isn't a big deal having nano there
at first ... Install disks are networked right off the bat these days,
so its not long before you can emerge vim or emacs, you don't have to
put up with nano for long.  




[gentoo-user] Re: Abut smb:// aware tools

2009-10-02 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes:

 On 10/02/2009 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Do we have tools other than Konqueror that are aware of smb/UNK
 addressing?

 Before you answer please note that:
 I know about ssh
 I know about fuse
 I know about mount -tcifs

 I'd really like to be able to use UNK addressing from the cmd line.

cd //host/share

 Well, it sounds like you know more about the subject than I do, but
 do you know about smbmount that comes as part of samba?  Seems to me
 like that's what you're asking for.

I had forgotten about smbmount but that too is not the same as being
able to cd around with cd //host/share
smbmount adds another layer of complexity... and something more to
umount or maintain in mounted state... would also add a few more
characters to each address.

 BTW, what is UNK addressing?

Sorry ...s/K/C/ Universal Naming Convention...  I always think of the
sound `UNK' when I think about that style of address...(//host/share),
it just slipped into print, but I guess I can't hide the fact that I am
largely braindead too.




[gentoo-user] [ot fonts in firefox]

2009-09-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone here coach me a little about getting a decent look in
firefox.

I've monkeyed around with the font settings endlessly but it seems I
can only get a look where like in a google search..  The hits are
displayed in a decent and reasonable size. But the font size in the
search box where you enter your terms is much bigger It seams nothing I
do in the supplied font adjustment settings has any effect on that
font.

You can see the window grab here:
  www.jtan.com/~reader/vu/disp.cgi

It doesn't look all that bad but notice how big the font in the search
box is compared to the index of hits.  The font inside search box is
not bold but is a fair bit larger font size than even the headlines in
the index of hits.

How do you control the font inside that search box?  And how do you
get a reliable size in the rest of it.. I tried checked and unchecked
on the item that says [] let the pages show their own fonts.
Doesn't seem to matter either way

I've tried numerous setting on the various font sizes available in the 
Edit/preferences font and advanced dialogs.  But I haven't found a
combination the just works for most stuff.




[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam 
 squawked:
  Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse
  button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text
  (console) mode?  Or using the touch pad thing somehow.  I've tried
  pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it
  has no effect.

 In console the copy-paste is provided by GPM. And I thought GPM paste
 is right mouse key, not middle key. And I am also pretty sure that GPM
 does not do third button emulation the way X does.

 I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse
 with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the
 middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then
 you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste.

 To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm
 to stick with 2-button mode.

 I am not running gpm to test; have you tried the obvious 'Insert', or 
 Shift+I, 
 or Shift+Insert?

None of those do what I'm after here.
Someone answered that screen can do the kind of thing I talked about
... and yet it can.




[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam 
 squawked:
  Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse
  button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text
  (console) mode?  Or using the touch pad thing somehow.  I've tried
  pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it
  has no effect.

 In console the copy-paste is provided by GPM. And I thought GPM paste
 is right mouse key, not middle key. And I am also pretty sure that GPM
 does not do third button emulation the way X does.

 I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse
 with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the
 middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then
 you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste.

 To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm
 to stick with 2-button mode.

 I am not running gpm to test; have you tried the obvious 'Insert', or 
 Shift+I, 
 or Shift+Insert?

 None of those do what I'm after here.
 Someone answered that screen can do the kind of thing I talked about
 ... and yet it can.
   ^yes




[gentoo-user] [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-22 Thread Harry Putnam
I use a laptop with one of those touch pads you use for a mouse where
you drag your finger around on it and have two buttons for left and
right mouse.

Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse
button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text
(console) mode?  Or using the touch pad thing somehow.  I've tried
pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it
has no effect.

So I'm thinking there must be a way from the keyboard to release the
copied string someway to `paste' whatever is currently in the copy
buffer or clipboard or whatever it is when you hightlight something in
the terminal with left mouse drag.

If I hook a real mouse to the laptop.. I can do the normal linux stuff
all with mouse.. highlight with left mouse button drag (in a terminal)
and paste the highlighted string with middle mouse.

So again, how can I effect the above with only the keyboard for pasting
or alternatively the touchpad?  (The touchpad and two button apparatus
built into the laptop)

I notice on a windows OS what ever is highlighted anywhere with the
mouse can be pasted with C-v.  Is there a similar keyboard combo in
linux (text) terminal mode?




[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes:
[...]

 One assumes that console mode means he's not running X.

 That said, I presume gpm holds the answer. But, I don't run gpm
 and don't know much about it...

James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com writes:
[...]

 then edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add a (or modify an existing uncommented):

 APPEND=-2

 And then the right-click should be paste.

Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu writes:
[...]

 I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse
 with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the
 middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then
 you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste. 

 To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm
 to stick with 2-button mode. 

Thanks to all for the prompt answers.

That solves the touch pad problem.

No one responded about the possibility of using the keyboard to do the
paste ... and man gpm is silent about it as well, does that mean its
not really possible to copy with mouse and paste with keyboard?




[gentoo-user] Re: Why am I seeing only black screen in mplayer

2009-09-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 Following my most recent update world of Sept. 13, mplayer only
 produces a black screen when playing quicktime .mov files.

 It works for me on ~amd64.  I'm using mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090825 with
 quicktime USE flag enabled.  Playing a quicktime movie shows video
 codec as ffrpza (from ffmpeg). I use vdpau for video output.

Today is the first time emerge has been able to find anything newer
than media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1

In any of the nearly a dozen repos I have set in /etc/make.conf.

Maybe now I'll see a difference.

Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes:

[...]


 you updated ffmpeg. Please rebuild mplayer. It should works afterwards.

 And in the future: revdep-rebuilt. It is your frined.

revdep-rebuild didn't help one whit in this case... as reported
earlier in this thread.




[gentoo-user] Why am I seeing only black screen in mplayer

2009-09-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Following my most recent update world of Sept. 13, mplayer only
produces a black screen when playing quicktime .mov files.

Ditto in firefox.  This was working.

But I'm not sure really what is playing the videos ... I do have gecko
installed but in the firefox settings/applications it lists:
quicktime files as being handled by `Use quicktime plugin 7.4.5

All other video formats are listed as being handled by gecko.

I'm not sure if firefox settings were changed by  update world.

Can anyone throw some light on what might be the problem here.

Does anyone know if the new version of mplayer(1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1)
offered in portage (which is not yet available in gentoo repos)...
might fix the problem?

  = * = * = * =

A list of pkgs updated on Sept 13:

qlop --list |grep 'Sep 13 '

Sun Sep 13 05:52:10 2009  dev-libs/expat-2.0.1-r2
Sun Sep 13 05:53:55 2009  media-libs/jpeg-7
Sun Sep 13 05:54:26 2009  sys-devel/gnuconfig-20090819
Sun Sep 13 05:55:10 2009  sys-libs/timezone-data-2009m
Sun Sep 13 05:56:53 2009  app-arch/xz-utils-4.999.9_beta
Sun Sep 13 05:57:25 2009  app-portage/portage-utils-0.2.1
Sun Sep 13 06:00:17 2009  dev-lang/swig-1.3.40
Sun Sep 13 06:01:51 2009  sys-apps/sandbox-2.1
Sun Sep 13 06:02:29 2009  app-arch/unzip-6.0-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:02:55 2009  sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.4
Sun Sep 13 06:06:04 2009  app-shells/bash-4.0_p33
Sun Sep 13 06:07:05 2009  mail-filter/bogofilter-1.2.1
Sun Sep 13 06:08:23 2009  media-libs/fontconfig-2.7.2
Sun Sep 13 06:08:38 2009  sys-apps/debianutils-3.2.1-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:08:54 2009  perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:09:11 2009  perl-core/Storable-2.21
Sun Sep 13 06:09:27 2009  perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:09:40 2009  dev-perl/yaml-0.70
Sun Sep 13 06:09:54 2009  dev-util/intltool-0.40.6-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:10:10 2009  dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.62
Sun Sep 13 06:10:18 2009  virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:10:26 2009  virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:10:33 2009  virtual/perl-Package-Constants-0.02
Sun Sep 13 06:10:40 2009  virtual/perl-Storable-2.21
Sun Sep 13 06:10:55 2009  perl-core/IO-Compress-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:11:08 2009  dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-1.30
Sun Sep 13 06:11:16 2009  virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:11:29 2009  perl-core/Archive-Tar-1.54
Sun Sep 13 06:11:37 2009  virtual/perl-Archive-Tar-1.54
Sun Sep 13 06:11:55 2009  perl-core/Module-Build-0.35
Sun Sep 13 06:12:02 2009  virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.35
Sun Sep 13 06:13:01 2009  sys-libs/readline-6.0_p4
Sun Sep 13 06:15:11 2009  dev-libs/apr-1.3.8
Sun Sep 13 06:16:08 2009  media-libs/libtheora-1.1_beta3
Sun Sep 13 06:16:50 2009  net-libs/libpcap-1.0.1_pre20090812
Sun Sep 13 06:18:32 2009  dev-db/sqlite-3.6.18
Sun Sep 13 06:18:45 2009  app-emacs/emacs-common-gentoo-1.2
Sun Sep 13 06:38:56 2009  dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:39:46 2009  dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9
Sun Sep 13 06:40:10 2009  dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.2
Sun Sep 13 06:41:33 2009  app-admin/rsyslog-3.22.1
Sun Sep 13 06:42:16 2009  app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.13
Sun Sep 13 06:45:28 2009  www-servers/apache-2.2.13
Sun Sep 13 06:45:35 2009  x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.6
Sun Sep 13 06:46:57 2009  x11-libs/pixman-0.16.0
Sun Sep 13 06:47:32 2009  x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.13
Sun Sep 13 06:47:57 2009  x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.0
Sun Sep 13 06:48:15 2009  x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 06:48:55 2009  x11-libs/libFS-1.0.2
Sun Sep 13 06:49:24 2009  media-fonts/encodings-1.0.2-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:53:39 2009  sys-apps/coreutils-7.5
Sun Sep 13 06:55:54 2009  sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1
Sun Sep 13 06:57:18 2009  sys-apps/findutils-4.5.5
Sun Sep 13 06:58:22 2009  sys-apps/gawk-3.1.7
Sun Sep 13 06:58:53 2009  sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20090728014017-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:00:44 2009  dev-libs/libcdio-0.80-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:05:24 2009  app-portage/eix-0.17.1
Sun Sep 13 07:06:34 2009  app-editors/nano-2.1.10
Sun Sep 13 07:07:22 2009  x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1
Sun Sep 13 07:07:49 2009  sys-apps/help2man-1.36.4-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:09:05 2009  app-i18n/enca-1.10
Sun Sep 13 07:12:17 2009  x11-libs/libXt-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 07:16:42 2009  net-misc/curl-7.19.6
Sun Sep 13 07:20:33 2009  sys-apps/dbus-1.3.0
Sun Sep 13 07:23:01 2009  x11-misc/x11vnc-0.9.8
Sun Sep 13 07:24:55 2009  x11-libs/libXaw-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 07:30:42 2009  dev-libs/glib-2.20.5
Sun Sep 13 07:31:37 2009  sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9
Sun Sep 13 07:31:46 2009  app-arch/rar-3.9.0
Sun Sep 13 07:32:54 2009  media-libs/babl-0.1.0
Sun Sep 13 07:34:39 2009  sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.9
Sun Sep 13 07:35:14 2009  dev-perl/glib-perl-1.222
Sun Sep 13 07:37:19 2009  media-libs/schroedinger-1.0.7-r2
Sun Sep 13 07:37:31 2009  sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.10.906
Sun Sep 13 07:37:50 2009  dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.831
Sun Sep 13 07:38:03 2009  sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:40:05 2009  dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:42:03 2009  mail-client/mutt-1.5.20-r5
Sun Sep 13 07:43:41 2009  mail-mta/sendmail-8.14.3-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:52:10 2009  

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up correct domainname

2009-09-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors-
 email_acco...@isp.com
   (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid 
 sender domain)

 -Transcript of session follows -
 ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com:
 MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH=
  550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected : invalid sender
 domain
 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
 

 Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically allocated IP 
 address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com?

 Is there something I could change in the configuration of my server to make 
 this work again?

I think you might avoid the problem by making sendmail Impersonate your
isps domain.

Using some or all of these settings in sendmail.mc
 MASQUERADE_AS(`yourISP.domain')dnl
 MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`youractual.domain')dnl
 FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl
 FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up correct domainname

2009-09-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 I think you might avoid the problem by making sendmail Impersonate your
 isps domain.

 Using some or all of these settings in sendmail.mc
  MASQUERADE_AS(`yourISP.domain')dnl
  MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`youractual.domain')dnl
  FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl
  FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl

 Yes, that should fix the reverse DNS problem alright, but then people who 
 receive email notifications from myserver will be confused by the domain that 
 these messages are sent from.

 I could also use the ISP's domain for my IP address in the server's 
 /etc/hosts 
 file - although it would have the same problem with regards to the domain 
 that messages are sent from.

It is possible to do lots of complicated rewriting with
`genericstable', both in and out... maybe that would bare looking
into. 




[gentoo-user] Re: fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?

2009-09-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 17:34,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 When using the line:

    @ 5 fetchmail -a

 nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded
 with

    fetchmail -a

 from the commandline.

 May be I am a little overhacked today...but what the hack I am doing
 wrong here?

 Are you sure the cron job runs? Check the logs. Or try adding:
 */5 * * * * fetchmail -a
 in your cron file.

Another way to go at it might be to use fetchmails' built in daemon
mode (fetchmail -d INTERVAL).  And forget about cron.





[gentoo-user] Re: mplayer troubles since update world

2009-09-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Kelly Hirai ke...@met.fsu.edu writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
 I didn't notice that mplayer wasn't working in firefox right away but
 I think it may have started with a recent update.
   (All updated packages are listed at the bottom)

[...]

 i had trouble with console mplayer after the last update as mplayer was
 built against another version of /usr/lib/libx264.so revdep-rebuild
 fixed that.

Thanks... 
revdep-rebuild here, turns up several pkgs needing rebuild but all are
related to a jpeg library.   And, no mplayer package came up on the
list of pkgs to rebuild.

I'll see in a while if it helped any.  But it seems unlikely since
mplayer didn't turn up on the list.  Still, if its using the wrong
jpeg library... maybe.





[gentoo-user] Re: mplayer troubles since update world

2009-09-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 i had trouble with console mplayer after the last update as mplayer was
 built against another version of /usr/lib/libx264.so revdep-rebuild
 fixed that.

 Thanks... 
 revdep-rebuild here, turns up several pkgs needing rebuild but all are
 related to a jpeg library.   And, no mplayer package came up on the
 list of pkgs to rebuild.

 I'll see in a while if it helped any.  But it seems unlikely since
 mplayer didn't turn up on the list.  Still, if its using the wrong
 jpeg library... maybe.

revdep-rebuild helped not at all in my case.
Now trying a rebuid of mplayer itself... 
emerge -vup mplayer YIKES... this is going to pull in a lot of
stuff (wrapped for mail)(Maybe I'll see improvement after this mess is
emerged): 

[ebuild U ] media-plugins/live-2009.09.04 [2009.07.28] 439 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.5 [7.0.4] 79 kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.21a [1.0.21] USE=python -alisp
-debug -doc ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop
empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter
mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol 790 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libvorbis-1.2.3 USE=-doc 1,440 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-lang/nasm-2.07 USE=-doc 762 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xproto-7.0.15 [7.0.14] 156 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/x264-0.0.20090908 USE=threads -debug 2,664 kB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/lame-3.98.2-r2 USE=-debug -mmx -mp3rtp
-sndfile 1,297 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/videoproto-2.3.0 [2.2.2] 54 kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.7.3 [2.7.2] USE=-doc 1,507 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xcb-proto-1.5 [1.2] 88 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libmp4v2-1.9.1 USE=-utils 423 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/faac-1.28-r1 663 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/xvid-1.2.2-r1 USE=-examples -pic 629 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-libs/libxcb-1.4-r1 [1.1.90.1] USE=-debug -doc
(-selinux) 299 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/flac-1.2.1-r3 USE=cxx -3dnow (-altivec) -debug
-doc -ogg -sse 1,971 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-libs/libX11-1.2.2 [1.1.5] USE=xcb* -debug -ipv6
1,833 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libsndfile-1.0.20 USE=alsa -jack -minimal
-sqlite 906 kB
[ebuild  N] media-sound/twolame-0.3.12  472 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 [1.0.4] USE=-debug 265 kB
[ebuild U ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1
[1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1] USE=X a52 aac alsa ass cddb cdio dirac dts dv
dvd* dvdnav enca encode* faac faad gif iconv jpeg* live mmx mp2 mp3*
network opengl* osdmenu png* quicktime rar real rtc samba schroedinger
shm speex theora tremor truetype unicode vorbis* x264 xv xvid -3dnow
-3dnowext -aalib (-altivec) -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia
-cpudetection -custom-cpuopts -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dvb -dxr3
-esd -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gmplayer -ipv6 -jack -joystick -ladspa -libcaca
-lirc -lzo -mad -md5sum -mmxext -mng -nas -nut -openal -opencore-amr
-oss -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr -radio -sdl -sse -sse2 -ssse3 -svga
-teletext -tga -v4l -v4l2 -vdpau -vidix -win32codecs* -xanim -xinerama
-xscreensaver -xvmc -zoran (-custom-cflags%) VIDEO_CARDS=mga tdfx
-nvidia -s3virge (-vesa%*) 14,779 kB




[gentoo-user] Where is mplayer?

2009-09-19 Thread Harry Putnam
The newest version of mplayer offered in todays sync is:
   media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1

It cannot be found in any of around a dozen repos that emerge tries
with

   emerge -vu mplayer

Anyone know where it can be found.

By the way I did try downloading the sources from:
   http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html

Renaming the downloaded tarball to  file to 
  /usr/portage/distfiles/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1

emerge appears to ignore it completely but It must be running a md5 or
something. ... Anyway emerge just goes on and tries to find it quite a
few places.

Anyone know where this file can be had currently?
  




[gentoo-user] Re: Where is mplayer?

2009-09-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 The newest version of mplayer offered in todays sync is:
media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1

 It cannot be found in any of around a dozen repos that emerge tries
 with

emerge -vu mplayer

 Anyone know where it can be found.

 By the way I did try downloading the sources from:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html

 Renaming the downloaded tarball to  file to 
   /usr/portage/distfiles/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1

Sorry that rename above should have read:

`Renaming the downloaded tarball to 
/usr/portage/distfiles/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090919.tar.bz2'

Which is the exact name emerge output shows but it is just ignored




[gentoo-user] Re: Icons on the xfce4 Desktop

2009-09-19 Thread Harry Putnam
dhk dhk...@optonline.net writes:

 I recently started using the xfce4 desktop with Gentoo and something
 happened where the icons disappeared.  When I go to the Desktop folder I
 can still see them there, the problem is I can get them to display again
 or they are displayed but off the screen.  Any ideas?

 Thanks,
 dhk
 
I know Xfce4 has some problems with a new jpeg-7 library.  Not sure
what or how.   But check and see if jpeg-7 has been installed recently.




[gentoo-user] mplayer troubles since update world

2009-09-18 Thread Harry Putnam
I didn't notice that mplayer wasn't working in firefox right away but
I think it may have started with a recent update.
  (All updated packages are listed at the bottom)

Now I just get a black screen in player window on a web page.  The
player loads and indicates its loading the video and playing it... but
all I see are controls and a black screen.

The same thing happens if I try to play the vid directly with mplayer.

This is a video that worked a few days ago.
Is it possible the changes in jpeg-7 are responsible.. or something to
do with  www-plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7
 www-plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7
that were pulled in during the update.


= * = * = * =
 Updated packages:

Sun Sep 13 05:52:10 2009  dev-libs/expat-2.0.1-r2
Sun Sep 13 05:53:55 2009  media-libs/jpeg-7
Sun Sep 13 05:54:26 2009  sys-devel/gnuconfig-20090819
Sun Sep 13 05:55:10 2009  sys-libs/timezone-data-2009m
Sun Sep 13 05:56:53 2009  app-arch/xz-utils-4.999.9_beta
Sun Sep 13 05:57:25 2009  app-portage/portage-utils-0.2.1
Sun Sep 13 06:00:17 2009  dev-lang/swig-1.3.40
Sun Sep 13 06:01:51 2009  sys-apps/sandbox-2.1
Sun Sep 13 06:02:29 2009  app-arch/unzip-6.0-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:02:55 2009  sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.4
Sun Sep 13 06:06:04 2009  app-shells/bash-4.0_p33
Sun Sep 13 06:07:05 2009  mail-filter/bogofilter-1.2.1
Sun Sep 13 06:08:23 2009  media-libs/fontconfig-2.7.2
Sun Sep 13 06:08:38 2009  sys-apps/debianutils-3.2.1-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:08:54 2009  perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:09:11 2009  perl-core/Storable-2.21
Sun Sep 13 06:09:27 2009  perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:09:40 2009  dev-perl/yaml-0.70
Sun Sep 13 06:09:54 2009  dev-util/intltool-0.40.6-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:10:10 2009  dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.62
Sun Sep 13 06:10:18 2009  virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:10:26 2009  virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:10:33 2009  virtual/perl-Package-Constants-0.02
Sun Sep 13 06:10:40 2009  virtual/perl-Storable-2.21
Sun Sep 13 06:10:55 2009  perl-core/IO-Compress-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:11:08 2009  dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-1.30
Sun Sep 13 06:11:16 2009  virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.021
Sun Sep 13 06:11:29 2009  perl-core/Archive-Tar-1.54
Sun Sep 13 06:11:37 2009  virtual/perl-Archive-Tar-1.54
Sun Sep 13 06:11:55 2009  perl-core/Module-Build-0.35
Sun Sep 13 06:12:02 2009  virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.35
Sun Sep 13 06:13:01 2009  sys-libs/readline-6.0_p4
Sun Sep 13 06:15:11 2009  dev-libs/apr-1.3.8
Sun Sep 13 06:16:08 2009  media-libs/libtheora-1.1_beta3
Sun Sep 13 06:16:50 2009  net-libs/libpcap-1.0.1_pre20090812
Sun Sep 13 06:18:32 2009  dev-db/sqlite-3.6.18
Sun Sep 13 06:18:45 2009  app-emacs/emacs-common-gentoo-1.2
Sun Sep 13 06:38:56 2009  dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:39:46 2009  dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9
Sun Sep 13 06:40:10 2009  dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.2
Sun Sep 13 06:41:33 2009  app-admin/rsyslog-3.22.1
Sun Sep 13 06:42:16 2009  app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.13
Sun Sep 13 06:45:28 2009  www-servers/apache-2.2.13
Sun Sep 13 06:45:35 2009  x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.6
Sun Sep 13 06:46:57 2009  x11-libs/pixman-0.16.0
Sun Sep 13 06:47:32 2009  x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.13
Sun Sep 13 06:47:57 2009  x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.0
Sun Sep 13 06:48:15 2009  x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 06:48:55 2009  x11-libs/libFS-1.0.2
Sun Sep 13 06:49:24 2009  media-fonts/encodings-1.0.2-r1
Sun Sep 13 06:53:39 2009  sys-apps/coreutils-7.5
Sun Sep 13 06:55:54 2009  sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1
Sun Sep 13 06:57:18 2009  sys-apps/findutils-4.5.5
Sun Sep 13 06:58:22 2009  sys-apps/gawk-3.1.7
Sun Sep 13 06:58:53 2009  sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20090728014017-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:00:44 2009  dev-libs/libcdio-0.80-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:05:24 2009  app-portage/eix-0.17.1
Sun Sep 13 07:06:34 2009  app-editors/nano-2.1.10
Sun Sep 13 07:07:22 2009  x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1
Sun Sep 13 07:07:49 2009  sys-apps/help2man-1.36.4-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:09:05 2009  app-i18n/enca-1.10
Sun Sep 13 07:12:17 2009  x11-libs/libXt-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 07:16:42 2009  net-misc/curl-7.19.6
Sun Sep 13 07:20:33 2009  sys-apps/dbus-1.3.0
Sun Sep 13 07:23:01 2009  x11-misc/x11vnc-0.9.8
Sun Sep 13 07:24:55 2009  x11-libs/libXaw-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 07:30:42 2009  dev-libs/glib-2.20.5
Sun Sep 13 07:31:37 2009  sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9
Sun Sep 13 07:31:46 2009  app-arch/rar-3.9.0
Sun Sep 13 07:32:54 2009  media-libs/babl-0.1.0
Sun Sep 13 07:34:39 2009  sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.9
Sun Sep 13 07:35:14 2009  dev-perl/glib-perl-1.222
Sun Sep 13 07:37:19 2009  media-libs/schroedinger-1.0.7-r2
Sun Sep 13 07:37:31 2009  sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.10.906
Sun Sep 13 07:37:50 2009  dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.831
Sun Sep 13 07:38:03 2009  sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:40:05 2009  dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:42:03 2009  mail-client/mutt-1.5.20-r5
Sun Sep 13 07:43:41 2009  mail-mta/sendmail-8.14.3-r1
Sun Sep 13 07:52:10 2009  media-video/ffmpeg-0.5_p19787
Sun Sep 13 08:12:49 2009  

[gentoo-user] Re: Strange desktop happening following update world

2009-09-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes:

 In short, jpeg-7 breaks some things :) It's not compatible with
 previous versions and while most programs don't have a problem with
 that, some do.

 I'm not sure exactly what causes XFCE to break, but gtk+ is broken
 with jpeg-7 and causes other apps like gqview to be screwed up as
 well. There's a patch on the gtk+ bugzilla that fixes it. If XFCE uses
 gtk+ that might be the cause. Recompiling all of XFCE might fix it,
 too.

I see... thanks... I'm so lazy I've sort of gotten to liking no
background wallpaper... I imagine stuff will eventually start working
again with future updates... maybe I'll be ready for wallpaper again
by then.




[gentoo-user] Re: Screen resolution problem

2009-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 Subsection Display
 Depth   24
 Modes   1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480
 Virtual 2048 1536
 ViewPort0 0
 EndSubsection
 EndSection

 [...]

 Sure, but we're talking about setting modelines and what not in one of the 
 new 
 *.fdi files which use xml notation, not the old xorg.conf

Ahh not exactly...
 From OP
 Several obvious questions arise:
 
_Why_ did X select a different resolution today?
_How_ can I get to the higher resolution?
_What_ can I do to prevent a recurrence of this problem?
 

My suggestion would likely solve all three




[gentoo-user] Strange desktop happening following update world

2009-09-14 Thread Harry Putnam
On reboot following recent update world I find the xfce4 manager is
not able to display the former desktop wallpaper or even the
wallpapers packaged with the install.

Other obvious changes are that ctrl-alt-bkspc no longer shuts X down
And the desktop seems to take a good bit longer to initially load.

xorg-server was one of the updates:
Dropping back one version on xorg-server did not help.
Updated was: (~)1.6.3.901-r1
Dropped back to: (~)1.6.3.901

The x11 packages installed are listed below.  Notice the large number
of drivers... That's been like that for a good while since I don't
include a VIDEO_CARDS setting in /etc/make.conf.

(I tried it a few times... wrestling the nvidia and nv drivers, but
found just leaving it out allowed things to just work.)

I doubt the number of drivers is the source of my current trouble
since as I mentioned its been like that for mnths, possibly over a yr.
= * = * = * =
 qlop --list|grep 'Sep 13.*x11'

Sun Sep 13 06:45:35 2009  x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.6
Sun Sep 13 06:46:57 2009  x11-libs/pixman-0.16.0
Sun Sep 13 06:47:32 2009  x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.13
Sun Sep 13 06:47:57 2009  x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.0
Sun Sep 13 06:48:15 2009  x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 06:48:55 2009  x11-libs/libFS-1.0.2
Sun Sep 13 07:07:22 2009  x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1
Sun Sep 13 07:12:17 2009  x11-libs/libXt-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 07:23:01 2009  x11-misc/x11vnc-0.9.8
Sun Sep 13 07:24:55 2009  x11-libs/libXaw-1.0.6
Sun Sep 13 09:14:28 2009  x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r1
Sun Sep 13 09:17:00 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-mach64-6.8.2
Sun Sep 13 09:17:27 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.4
Sun Sep 13 09:18:39 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-20090907
Sun Sep 13 09:19:42 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-glint-1.2.4
Sun Sep 13 09:20:10 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.1
Sun Sep 13 09:21:49 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.8.1
Sun Sep 13 09:23:31 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4
Sun Sep 13 09:24:48 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-sis-0.10.2
Sun Sep 13 09:25:21 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware-10.16.7
Sun Sep 13 09:25:56 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-neomagic-1.2.4
Sun Sep 13 09:26:38 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-savage-2.3.1
Sun Sep 13 09:27:16 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-r128-6.8.1
Sun Sep 13 09:28:00 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-trident-1.3.3
Sun Sep 13 09:28:49 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-mga-1.4.11
Sun Sep 13 09:29:21 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-tdfx-1.4.3
Sun Sep 13 09:29:46 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.2.1
Sun Sep 13 09:30:12 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-video-voodoo-1.2.3
Sun Sep 13 09:48:26 2009  x11-libs/gtk+-2.16.5-r1




[gentoo-user] Re: Strange desktop happening following update world

2009-09-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes:

 On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 On reboot following recent update world I find the xfce4 manager is
 not able to display the former desktop wallpaper or even the
 wallpapers packaged with the install.

 Did you upgrade to jpeg-7 recently?

Sure did... at the same time as the other stuff Sep 13.

A couple of quick googles didn't enlighten me as to what difference
that might make.

The wall paper I had up before updating is a *.png file.

`equery files jpeg-7' turned up a /usr/share/doc/jpeg-7/usage.txt.bz2

Again... not much enlightenment there.




[gentoo-user] Re: Screen resolution problem

2009-09-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 On my old computer it detected the highest resolution as 1280x1024,
 but could actually do 1600x1200 with no problems. I had to create a
 custom Modeline and put it in xorg.conf - this was before the HAL
 revolution. I've got no idea if modelines still belong in xorg.conf or
 in a FDI or something.

 Is there an *.fdi way of telling xorg which modeling or resolution to use?  
 Unlike the OP I don't currently need to with my machines, but you never know 
 tomorrow.

I've been able to set a truly massive resolution..for yrs. I like flopping
around on a huge desktop.  Its a resolution my vid card is not even
capable of... not sure how it works.. but I've used it literally for yrs.

In /etc/X11/xorg.conf I have:
(The:
 `DefaultDepth 24' line and the:
 `Virtual   2048 1536'
are the keys.  Actually gives me 2048 1536 as a desktop)

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen 1
Device  ** NVIDIA (generic)   [nv]
Monitor My Monitor
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480
Virtual 2048 1536 
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

[...]




[gentoo-user] Re: mplayer and sound in firefox during playback

2009-09-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:

 On 09/09/2009 10:05 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Wednesday 09 September 2009 01:49:15 Harry Putnam wrote:
 I've installed mplayer and am able to play back online vidoes like
 quicktime.   However, I get no sound.

 Playing the same file retrieved from browser cache, directly with
 mplayer, works with sound.

 What do I need to do with firefox to get the sound of videos?

 wild shot in the dark here

 Was firefox built with USE=alsa?

 Doesn't matter.  It's the plugin that plays the sound, not Firefox (I
 know because I have Firefox without the alsa USE flag and it works
 OK.)

I did Nikos suggestion but also discovered I hadn't relogged in the
user after adding user to audio group.  Once I did both it worked but
not sure if both were needed.  The user in audio part is a necessity
for sure... but not sure the changes on right click in a running
firefox playback is.

What I mean is, I'm not sure if it was already right.

The right click context menu preferences/play appears to be the only
setting that would really matter.
[audio output][drop dn  menu]

The drop down offers a number of choices, alsa being one of them.  I
think it was blank when I first looked.

It seems to work with either being blank or `alsa' inserted. 




[gentoo-user] mplayer and sound in firefox during playback

2009-09-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I've installed mplayer and am able to play back online vidoes like
quicktime.   However, I get no sound.

Playing the same file retrieved from browser cache, directly with
mplayer, works with sound.  

What do I need to do with firefox to get the sound of videos?

I have the gecko-media player installed but I noticed in firefox
options/applications that *.mov files are not mentioned there.
Although quite a few other formats are listed as using gecko.





[gentoo-user] Re: After yrs of silence... I need sound

2009-09-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

[...]

 Hoping some kind sole will take the time to provide a brief outline
 off the top of there head... how to get started and cut right to the
 chase in an hour or two.


[...]

Thanks too:
Arttu V.,  Dale, Mick, Joshua Murphy

That alsaconf is way cool... 




[gentoo-user] After yrs of silence... I need sound

2009-09-06 Thread Harry Putnam
I've gone literally for yrs with no sound on my desktop machines I
rarely find a need for it.

But now I'm trying to take some online courses and find trying to work
on windows machine when coding and other sorts of editor intensive
stuff is involved... I really feel much more adept on linux.

Anyway cutting to the chase... its been so long since I even looked
into gettting sound working.. I'm sort of stunned at the realization I
have no clue at all as to how to get started.

I hoped to avoid reading acres of documentation.  Starting way at the
bottom etc etc.

Hoping some kind sole will take the time to provide a brief outline
off the top of there head... how to get started and cut right to the
chase in an hour or two.

My setup is profile x86/2008.0
On this architecture and kernel past the `-r1' is my own versioning
Linux reader 2.6.30-gentoo-r1_rdr_5 #6 [...]i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) 
  CPU 3.06GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
I try to keep within a week or two being up to date most of the time.

I've got speakers hooked up at back of the machine in the `green'
hole.

I get nothing sound wise when attempting to play a music or video
file.

Neither do I see any errors:  mplayer some.wav from a cmdprompt shows
the file playing... but I'm hearing nothing.

Below are a few chunks of info that hopefully will be useful to
someone diagnostically:

My kernel has also enabled pci sound devices/:
  M   (Creative) Ensoniq AudioPCI 1370
  M   (Creative) Ensoniq AudioPCI 1371/1373   

lspci -vv shows this item:

  00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
   (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)

   Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. 865PE Neo2-V
   (MS-6788) Mainboard

   Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
   Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-

   Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort-
   TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx-

   Latency: 0
   Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 12
   Region 0: I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
   Region 1: I/O ports at d800 [size=64]
   Region 2: Memory at febffa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
   Region 3: Memory at febff900 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
   Capabilities: access denied
   Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
   Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0




[gentoo-user] USE flags confusing on emerge gimp

2009-09-04 Thread Harry Putnam
After some resent discussion here of USE in thread:
   Subject: How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox

I'm a little confused by what I see when investigating the emerge of
gimp (wrapped for mail).

  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild  N] media-libs/babl-0.0.22  USE=-mmx -sse 388 kB

  [ebuild  N] media-libs/gegl-0.0.22  USE=svg -cairo -debug -doc
   -ffmpeg -jpeg -mmx -openexr -png
   -raw -sdl -sse -v4l 1,226 kB

  [ebuild N ] media-gfx/gimp-2.6.6 USE=alsa python svg -aalib
   (-altivec) -curl -dbus -debug -doc -exif -gnome -hal -jpeg -lcms -mmx
   -mng -pdf -png -smp -sse -tiff -webkit -wmf 15,700 kB

Would anyone want things like -jpeg, -pdf, -png, -tiff, -exif - turned
off in an image (or photo) processing program?

What does it mean that those flags are turned off?
Should I turn them on before emerging?




[gentoo-user] Re: How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox

2009-08-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes:

 Actually, I think there used to be an mplayer USE flag that behaved in
 exactly this way - it was associated with RealPlayer /or their
 codecs.

 However I would assume this to be the exception rather than the rule,
 and one would generally assume that USE=x y z adds support for x, y,
 z.

Maybe not all that exceptional... consider the case of users who don't
run gnome desktop but want certain gnome tools... would they not leave
gnome at `-gnome'?




[gentoo-user] keyboard copy paste

2009-08-30 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I copy and paste with the keybard between application windows.
I think I remember knowing how to do this at some time in the past but
now just coming up blank as to how.

I want to copy something in Emacs... ok .. no problem.. there are many
ways with keyboard inside emacs.

Now I want to paste whats on the clipboard into an Xterm cmd line,
without going to the mouse.

I'm running recent Xfce4 desktop... but not finding a way to do this.

Can I just steal whatever events happen when middle click on three
button mouse and put them into a keyboard shortcut?

How might I do that?






[gentoo-user] Re: keyboard copy paste

2009-08-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de writes:

 Am Sonntag, 30. August 2009 schrieb Harry Putnam:

 Now I want to paste whats on the clipboard into an Xterm cmd line,
 without going to the mouse.

 I'm running recent Xfce4 desktop... but not finding a way to do this.

 Can I just steal whatever events happen when middle click on three
 button mouse and put them into a keyboard shortcut?

 How might I do that?

 Pasting into an xterm or one of its clones can be done by Shift+Ins.

Haa... yes nice...

How about a way to activate a hyperlink from keyboard?

I have a list of videos that are displayed as hyperlinks on a web
page.

Tab will navigate to next and shifttab to previous link and I see
they are selected... but I find no keyboard action that does whatever
a mouse click does to hyperlinks... 

I thought either spc or enter but neither of those activate the
links. Also tried quite a few other keyboard combos, but never did
find one that activates a hyperlink like a mouse click does.

Thanks for the paste combo!




[gentoo-user] Re: keyboard copy paste

2009-08-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es writes:

[...]

 Tab will navigate to next and shifttab to previous link and I see
 they are selected... but I find no keyboard action that does whatever a
 mouse click does to hyperlinks...[/quote]

 That entirely depends on the browser you use. But usually it's enter
 once you have the link selected. At least, that works on firefox
 and seamonkey. I seem to remember the same holds true for konqueror,
 not sure.


 I thought either spc or enter but neither of those activate the
 links. Also tried quite a few other keyboard combos, but never did find one
 that activates a hyperlink like a mouse click does.

 If that doesn't work, then let us know which browser do you use.

Yes sorry.  I use firefox-3.5.1 and I also thought enter should
activate a hperlink.

I use Xfce4 desktop and and the default/linux/x86/2008.0 profile

I did look at the keyboard shortcuts listed in firefox help file but
none of them appears to be for activating a hyperlink.

If your enter key activates hyperlinks, please try some of the links
here:
  http://www.lynda.com/home/ViewCourses.aspx?lpk0=391

And let me know if it works there for you.




[gentoo-user] Re: How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox

2009-08-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

 You have it wrong.

A not unusual state of affairs for me, I'll admit.

After several yrs on gentoo... I still don't understand fully the use
of the USE flags.

 USE=thing is supposed to add *support* for thing, not
 necessarily *install* something called thing. Whatever thing
 means in the context of a specific ebuild depends on what the ebuild
 is for, and different ebuilds with the same USE flag may have
 entirely different DEPEND stanzas, depending on how the package is
 written and what it needs to build/run.

But wouldn't having the gnome use flag active cause updates to pull in
stuff that may not be necessary for the one or two gnome based tools
$user wants?




[gentoo-user] Re: keyboard copy paste

2009-08-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es writes:

 On Sun, August 30, 2009 19:52, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es writes:


 [...]


 Tab will navigate to next and shifttab to previous link and I
 see they are selected... but I find no keyboard action that does
 whatever a mouse click does to hyperlinks...[/quote]

 That entirely depends on the browser you use. But usually it's enter
 once you have the link selected. At least, that works on firefox and
 seamonkey. I seem to remember the same holds true for konqueror, not
 sure.


 I thought either spc or enter but neither of those activate the
 links. Also tried quite a few other keyboard combos, but never did
 find one that activates a hyperlink like a mouse click does.

 If that doesn't work, then let us know which browser do you use.


 Yes sorry.  I use firefox-3.5.1 and I also thought enter should
 activate a hperlink.

 I don't know what your problem might be then.

 If you select a link with tab, just pressing enter should be enough
 to open it.

 An alternate method is to directly type part of the link, firefox
 will select matches (you don't have to press any key combo to open
 the search box or anything, it's automatic as you start typing). Once
 you have typed enough characters and the selection is -hopefully-
 over the link, just press enter. This method can be a bit tricky
 sometimes. You might need to click the background on the area containing
 the links or tab somewhere near the link to be able to use it.

 Yet a third method would be to use the search feature. Control+f, then
 type part of the name, once the link is -partly- selected, press ESC
 (important, to close the search bar) then enter to activate the selected
 link.

 If your enter key activates hyperlinks, please try some of the links
 here:
 http://www.lynda.com/home/ViewCourses.aspx?lpk0=391

 As far as I can tell, they work fine in both firefox and seamonkey.

This is beginning to seem very strange... My firefox browser follows
all the things you laid out above on any other site.

It has to be something to do with me being logged into that account.

Logging out doesn't change it either... what happens is the first
keystroke I do after arriving at the home page, causes me to be logged
in again and then the links will not activate with enter

It has to be something done with javascript to intercept the event of
pressing enter and disabling or redirecting it.

There are dozens of routines in javascript and AJAX that intercept
keyboard and mouse events... and use them to display something helpful
like a preview of the page the hyperlink leads to or that sort of
thing.

So I'm guessing its either being done purposely for some reason or is
a side effect of some other javascript code.

Thanks for the time and help.




[gentoo-user] Re: How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox

2009-08-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes:


 I'm surprised you emerged mplayer with USE=-quicktime, since the
 purpose of doing so is to play Quicktime videos.
 :P

emerge came up with those setting... I just didn't change it.




[gentoo-user] Re: How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox

2009-08-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes:

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 I'm having a heck of a time getting firefox setup so it can handle
 quicktime videos.

[...]

Paul wrote:
 Seems to possibly be related to win32codecs and/or quicktime USE flag.
 Try enabling one or both of them and see if that helps.

Haa  It sure was related... compiled without complaint with those use
flags turned on.   Thank you




[gentoo-user] Re: How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox

2009-08-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:

 On 08/29/2009 10:59 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Strollerstrol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk  writes:


 I'm surprised you emerged mplayer with USE=-quicktime, since the
 purpose of doing so is to play Quicktime videos.
 :P

 emerge came up with those setting... I just didn't change it.

 Well you can't expect emerge to read your mind.  If you want
 something, enable it.  This is Gentoo, after all.

Ok... everybody is suddenly an expert... hehe.

My thinking ran something like:  Mplayer may play *.mov files with its
own codec... therefor quicktime codecs might interfere therefore
my smart gentoo tools knew this and set the quicktime flag to minus.

Ok, so it isn't all that likely...




[gentoo-user] How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox

2009-08-28 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm having a heck of a time getting firefox setup so it can handle
quicktime videos.

I understand I need mplayer to be installed but haven't been able to
emerge it.
I'm hoping someone will recognize what this problem is... I certainly
do not.  But I do see others having trouble related to multi-core
machines and mplayer... So NOTE: my hardware is not Multi-core.  Its
an intel 3.06 Ghz with 2gb of ram.

Maybe its some thing related to the use flags... but there are so many
listed as + and - ones... it's just confusing to me.  

Displayed below are first the Use flags that come up and then the tail
of the build attempt.  Use the provided url to view the full output if
desired.

(The massive full build.log and environment report can be viewed at:
www.jtan.com/~reader/mpfailure/mp.cgi)

 (first the use flags that come up)

[ebuild  N] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1  USE=X a52
aac alsa ass cddb cdio dirac dts dv dvdnav enca faac faad gif iconv
live mmx mp2 network osdmenu rar real rtc samba schroedinger shm speex
theora tremor truetype unicode x264 xv xvid -3dnow -3dnowext -aalib
(-altivec) -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags
-custom-cpuopts -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dvb -dvd -dxr3 -encode
-esd -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gmplayer -ipv6 -jack -joystick -jpeg -ladspa
-libcaca -lirc -lzo -mad -md5sum -mmxext -mng -mp3 -nas -nut -openal
-opencore-amr -opengl -oss -png -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr -quicktime
-radio -sdl -sse -sse2 -ssse3 -svga -teletext -tga -v4l -v4l2 -vdpau
-vidix -vorbis -win32codecs -xanim -xinerama -xscreensaver -xvmc
-zoran

==
(tail of failure )
==
[...]
client -lgif -lasound -ldl -lpthread -lcdio_cdda -lcdio -lcdio_paranoia  
-lfreetype -lz -lfontconfig  -lenca -lz -lbz2 -lspeex -ltheora -logg   -ldts 
-lliveMedia -lgroupsock -lUsageEnvironment -lBasicUsageEnvironment -lstdc++ 
-ldv -ldirac_encoder -ldirac_decoder -lstdc++   -lschroedinger-1.0 -lpthread 
-loil-0.3 -lm -lrt   -lpthread -ldl -rdynamic  -lm   
loader/module.o: In function `MODULE_GetProcAddress':
module.c:(.text+0xf8): undefined reference to `report_entry'
module.c:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to `report_ret'
module.c:(.text+0x10c): undefined reference to `wrapper_target'
module.c:(.text+0x111): undefined reference to `wrapper'
loader/module.o: In function `LoadLibraryExA':
module.c:(.text+0x1000): undefined reference to `report_entry'
module.c:(.text+0x100a): undefined reference to `report_ret'
module.c:(.text+0x1015): undefined reference to `wrapper_target'
module.c:(.text+0x101b): undefined reference to `wrapper'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [mplayer] Error 1
 * 
 * ERROR: media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2623:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake || die Failed to build MPlayer!;
 *  The die message:
 *   Failed to build MPlayer!
[...]




[gentoo-user] Firefox - Couldn't Load XPCOM

2009-08-02 Thread Harry Putnam
This must be a known issue, but I don't see recent messages that
appear to be about this problem with firefox.

Over the last few updates I'm unable to run firefox at all.

If called from cmdline I see:
 firefox
Couldn't load XPCOM.

I read somewhere it might have something to do with Xulrunner.  But I
see my latest update also updated xulrunner.

Now running these:
Sat Aug  1 11:45:01 2009  net-libs/xulrunner-1.9.1.1-r1
Sat Aug  1 11:48:15 2009  www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.1-r1

Anyone have a tip about this?




[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox - Couldn't Load XPCOM

2009-08-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 This must be a known issue, but I don't see recent messages that
 appear to be about this problem with firefox.

 Over the last few updates I'm unable to run firefox at all.

 If called from cmdline I see:
  firefox
 Couldn't load XPCOM.

 I read somewhere it might have something to do with Xulrunner.  But I
 see my latest update also updated xulrunner.

 Now running these:
 Sat Aug  1 11:45:01 2009  net-libs/xulrunner-1.9.1.1-r1
 Sat Aug  1 11:48:15 2009  www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.1-r1

 Anyone have a tip about this?

Nevermind... revdep-rebuild -v -- --ask 
found package dev-libs/nss  to be inconsistent and rebuilt it.

That seems to have cured the problem.




[gentoo-user] Re: How send mail when user login on ssh or local ?

2009-07-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Vagner Rodrigues vag...@litrixlinux.org writes:

 Hi Folks !


  Somebody  know how I to  so send mail with  IP and Date/time  when same
 user login on shell  ( remote or local ) ?

 I work with another admin's  and I never told me  when they access and
 for what  my server  to do something,  I try log but this can be erased 
 and maybe mail can help me about access and with this I can Ask about
 this access.

Do you really think the other admins would be erasing logs?

one way to get some input would be to run your own script that calls 
`w' who `who' every half hour and writes it to a file with `' redirect.

Then once a day the script could mail you the resulting file.

If the other admins are logging in as root... you would see where they
were logging in from... and possibly identify them that way... also
`w' may give a little hint as to what they are doing.

Some scanning of the output file would reveal quite a lot of info over
time. 

look at `man w' or `man who' for what you would be getting

The output might look something like this...showing who is logged in
and from where:

 w
[...]
USERTTY FROM  LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
jhc  p1 pool-173-70-160-  2:36AM 0 /bin/ksh 
cytroic  p3 fw1.appliedcard. 02Jul09 7days screen -x 
st   p4 mais2.cat.utexas Wed07PM 20:26 -bash 
rob  pa 216-239-45-4.goo Sun11PM27 screen -rd 
dwa  ph 68-116-196-242.d  8:10PM  1:00 -bash 
reader   pk c-98-215-178-110  9:57PM 0 w 
mage pq c-65-34-215-99.h Fri10PM 5days screen -r 


Or use `who' to get a full print of the remote hosts users are logging
in from:

  who 
jhc  ttyp1Jul 30 02:36   (pool-173-70-160-108.nwrknj.fios.)
cytroic  ttyp3Jul  2 13:59   (fw1.appliedcard.com)
st   ttyp4Jul 29 19:05   (mais2.cat.utexas.edu)
rob  ttypaJul 26 23:50   (216-239-45-4.google.com)
dwa  ttyphJul 30 20:10   (68-116-196-242.dhcp.oxfr.ma.char)
reader   ttypkJul 30 21:57   (c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast)
mage ttypqJul 24 22:49   (c-65-34-215-99.hsd1.fl.comcast.n)




[gentoo-user] check for nfs systems offered for mounting

2009-07-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Is there anyway to check for nfs filesystems that are mountable?

Something like smbclient can do for cifs/smb shares.

equery tools nfs-utils  doesn't show anything likely.




[gentoo-user] Re: [nfs] nfs mount settings

2009-07-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

 There is nothing much you can do about this except:

 Renumber your gid's locally to match the nfs server,
 or renumber the nfs share gids to match your local machine

Looking into that I noticed, as you thought the gid of the share on
solaris is alphabetic wheel but numeric 15.   Which is the gid of
`man' on gentoo.

But I noticed the gid 16 is not taken on the gentoo os so promoted man
to gid 16 and changed wheel from 10 to 15.

Logging my user out and back in I see the gid 15 now is wheel so the
same as solaris.

Having my user mount the nfs ... it ends up `reader:wheel'.  Both are
my users uid and one of his gids so now both the uid and gid match
those on the solaris OS where user reader:wheel owns the source
directory. (also /projects on solaris box).

But with all that in place a copy using `-a' still causes the the
same error warning.

  ls -l /projects/it
  -rw-r--r--+ 1 reader wheel 0 Jul 27 09:17 /projects/it

 cp -a /projects/it /projects/it2
 cp: preserving permissions for `/projects/it2': 
 Operation not supported

  ls -l /projects/it2
  -rw-r--r--+ 1 reader wheel 0 Jul 27 09:17 /projects/it2

 ==

  user reader (on gentoo) running command id -a
  uid=1000(reader) gid=1000(reader) groups=15(wheel),16(man),
250(portage),1000(reader)

  user reader (on solaris) running command id -a
  uid=1000(reader) gid=10(staff) groups=10(staff),3(sys),4
 (adm),15(wheel)

 ==

And the nfs source directory is also set-gid (by user reader)
  ls -ld /projects (on solaris server)
  drwxr-sr-x 14 reader wheel 17 2009-07-27 09:29 /projects





[gentoo-user] Re: [nfs] nfs mount settings

2009-07-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes:

 Further to A McK's reply, suggest use of `ls -ln`.

 Assuming the -n is supported on Slowaris all will become clear.


But after the changes mentioned in a reply to Alan M.  it now shows
the same on both the source /projects (on solaris) and the mounted nfs
/projects on gentoo.

ls -ln (on solaris)

   ls -ln /projects
total 18
drwxr-xr-x  2 1000 10   5 2009-07-25 18:46 bookmks
drwxrwxrwx  9 1000 15  10 2009-07-13 08:38 harvey
drwxr-xr-x  3 1000 15   3 2009-01-21 18:22 mob1
drwxr-xr-x 32 1000 15  34 2009-06-24 07:35 reader_rdr
[...]

=

ls -ln (on gentoo)

total 18
drwxr-xr-x+  2 1000 10   5 Jul 25 18:46 bookmks
drwxrwxrwx   9 1000 15  10 Jul 13 08:38 harvey
drwxr-xr-x+  3 1000 15   3 Jan 21  2009 mob1
drwxr-xr-x+ 32 1000 15  34 Jun 24 07:35 reader_rdr
[...]

The only difference I see is the `+' on gentoo.  I'm not sure what
that means.




[gentoo-user] Re: [nfs] nfs mount settings

2009-07-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

[...]

 Logging my user out and back in I see the gid 15 now is wheel so the
 same as solaris.

 When you do this, you only change the username attached to the gid. Remember 
 that the filesystem does not know or care what username you use, it only 
 knows 
 about gids. You now need to find every file group owned by man's old gid and 
 chown it to man's new gid. Put another way, the man groups files now appear 
 to 
 belong to the wheel group, and the wheel group's files are orphaned. This 
 ought to do it:

 - umount nfs shares
 - find / -gid 15 -exec chown :16 {} +;

Not many files have group man... mainly /var/cache/man/*

 - find / -gid 10 -exec chown :15 {} +;
 - mount nfs shares

I'm working on that... but that would only get to files NOT on the nfs
mount.  Far as on the nfs mount...where the `cp -a' problem is, the
numeric gids are the same on all machines now.

[...]

 But with all that in place a copy using `-a' still causes the the
 same error warning.

 Let's try something stupid :-)

 cp -a is a GNU extension IIRC, and Solaris userland does not support it. 
 Try cp -pr just for fun

The server is opensolaris.. which has lots of gnus tools... including
cp -a, but just making sure:

 cd /projects
 touch file
 cp -rp file file2
  cp: preserving permissions for `file2': Operation not supported

 Also, there's an ACL on that file (the +). What are those rules, determined 
 by 
 getfacl? It shouldn't make a difference as ACLs cannot take away a user's 
 permissions. But SELinux can ... offhand I cannot think of anything on 
 Solaris 
 that works similarly - anything ring a bell here about your nfs server?

getfacl doesn't show anything as an acl...
  getfacl file 
  # file: file
  # owner: reader
  # group: wheel
  user::rw-
  group::r--
  mask::rwx
  other::r--

 What are your mount options on the client side, and the relevant line in 

I posted those already.. `noauto,users,exec,dev,suid'

 exports on the server side?

opensolaris running zfs filesystem doesn't use an exports list.

nfs exporting is done by using the: 

`zfs set sharenfs=on'  cmd on the desired member of a zfs filesystem.

I don't really know what the defaults are and not really sure how to
find out either.

I've run into something more serious in the course of investigating
about the nfs mount...  a reboot of gentoo has shown that I have no
keyboard or mouse once I turn X on.  

So the nfs stuff will have to wait its working well enough for me
to work on the mounted filesystem for now anyway.




[gentoo-user] [nfs] nfs mount settings

2009-07-26 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm not that familiar with nfs usage ... only used lightly a few
times.

I have an opensolaris nfs server serving a share to my gentoo box.

The mount point is set as owner:group  of my user (reader).

Also has the set-gid bit set.

ls -ld /projects
drwxr-sr-x 2 reader wheel 48 Jun 24 07:08 /projects

And the mount settings in /etc/fstab
(zfs is the hostname of the opensolaris server)

zfs:/projects   /projectsnfs   noauto,users,exec,dev 0 0

With those settings my user or root can mount it.

When its mounted the permissions change to this:

ls -ld /projects
drwxr-sr-x+ 13 reader man 14 Jul 25 09:47 /projects

Whats with the `man' group?

Also, when mounted I find when I try to copy somethihng with the -a
option, which tries to maintain any permission settings.  It causes an
error warning... (although the copy is done).

 cp -a file file1
  cp: preserving permissions for `file1': Operation not supported

And the files permissions end up:
 ls -l file*
-rw-r--r--+ 1 reader man223962 Jul 26 15:56 file
-rw-r--r--+ 1 reader reader 223962 Jul 26 15:56 file1

Is there some way to set it up so that permissions can be copied?
Also to alow the set-gid setting to work?




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] File merge tool

2009-07-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Roy Wright r...@wright.org writes:

 kdiff3 is my favorite graphical merge tool (hey, even have it running
 on my macbook).

Thanks.. I'm pretty sure that would involve installing some part of
kde which I'm not interested in doing.  Just too much grind time when
updating and not that much in return.





[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] File merge tool

2009-07-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net writes:


 Along time I used tkdiff and it worked really fine, since yesterday I
 swapped to the new package diffuse, which is actually the same in gtk.

Now that does look usefull.

Too bad I see no way to ignore differences in dates of the various
entries.   That seems to occur in many many places.

But the tool seems really usefull.  Thanks




[gentoo-user] Where to start with this kind of X problem

2009-07-25 Thread Harry Putnam
I've had X running and running xfce4 desktop for mnths.

This is a single user machine on a home lan uptodate gentoo.

Today I decided to create a new user and start an x session for that
user.

I moved to a virtual terminal Ctrl-alt-F2

Then copied the .xinitrc file I use to start xfce from my normal user
to this new one's ~.

Made sure Owner:Group were set to newuser:newuser and called the same
command I use to start an X session as my regular user.

  startx

Only since Xfce is already running on display :0  I called it on
display :1 (something I've done in the past with no problem)

 so:

  startx -- :1

And I get all these errors that do not appear when I startx as my
regular user (full log posted at the end):

[...]

Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Sat Jul 25 13:42:18 2009
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf

(EE) Failed to load module freetype (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) module ABI major version (4) doesn't match the server's version (5)
(EE) Failed to load module nv (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) module ABI major version (2) doesn't match the server's version (4)
(EE) Failed to load module mouse (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) module ABI major version (2) doesn't match the server's version (4)
(EE) Failed to load module kbd (module requirement mismatch, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
[...]

How can I have all these module problems but have no trouble booting
as my regular user?

It must be something else causing the error?  I'm not understanding
why one user can startx but not another on the same hardware and same
.initrc file.

Below I've included the log from the failed attempt and followed with
the successful log of my regular user starting X at last boot. 

==
Full log for new user (failed): 

X.Org X Server 1.6.2
Release Date: 2009-7-7
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r1_rdr_5 i686 
Current Operating System: Linux reader 2.6.30-gentoo-r1_rdr_5 #6 Thu Jun 25 
08:12:58 CDT 2009 i686
Build Date: 14 July 2009  11:13:21AM
 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Sat Jul 25 13:42:18 2009
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout Simple Layout
(**) |--Screen Screen 1 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor My Monitor
(**) |   |--Device ** NVIDIA (generic)   [nv]
(**) |--Input Device Mouse1
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard1
(==) Not automatically adding devices
(==) Not automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/TTF does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/Type1 does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
built-ins,
/usr/share/fonts/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
/usr/share/fonts/OTF,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
(II) Loader magic: 0x1ee0
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 8

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0343:1462:9590 nVidia Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 
5700LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0xfd00/16777216, 0xc000/268435456, BIOS @ 
0x/131072
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
[3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
[4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) extmod will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in 
the config file.
(II) dbe will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in 
the config file.
(II) glx will be loaded by default.
(II) record will be loaded by default.
(II) dri will be loaded by default.
(II) dri2 will be loaded by default.

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to start with this kind of X problem

2009-07-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 How can I have all these module problems but have no trouble booting
 as my regular user?

 It must be something else causing the error?  I'm not understanding
 why one user can startx but not another on the same hardware and same
 .initrc file.

Whooops ... I mislead any prespective readers.
It turns out even my regular user cannot startx.  Its been a while
since I left X or rebooted so I just assumbed the regular user could
still startx.

NOT SO...

I see several x11 related items were installed recently in updates.
reader  qlop --list|grep ' Jul '|grep x11
Sat Jul  4 08:22:29 2009  x11-misc/util-macros-1.2.2
Sat Jul  4 08:23:25 2009  x11-proto/inputproto-1.5.1
Sat Jul  4 08:23:37 2009  x11-proto/dri2proto-2.1
Sat Jul  4 08:24:04 2009  x11-apps/xfs-1.1.0-r1
Sat Jul  4 08:24:25 2009  x11-libs/libXinerama-1.0.3
Sat Jul  4 08:29:53 2009  x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-1.6
Sat Jul  4 08:41:05 2009  x11-proto/glproto-1.4.10
Sat Jul  4 08:50:49 2009  x11-libs/cairo-1.8.8
Sat Jul  4 08:54:21 2009  x11-libs/pango-1.24.3
Sat Jul  4 09:40:38 2009  x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.1.902
Sat Jul  4 09:42:44 2009  x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.2.2
Tue Jul 14 08:22:54 2009  x11-libs/pango-1.24.4
Tue Jul 14 11:19:40 2009  x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.2-r1

Some of them matching the things I got errors about..
kbd input and 2 versions of the full server itself.

Has anyone else noticed problems with X in recent updates?

I'm backing up xorg-server to pre 1.6.1.902 to see it that does any
good but have a hunch it will involve more reinstalls than that.




[gentoo-user] Re: Where to start with this kind of X problem

2009-07-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 I'm backing up xorg-server to pre 1.6.1.902 to see it that does any
 good but have a hunch it will involve more reinstalls than that.

Seems to have cured the problem... now able to start multiple X
sessions on different displays




[gentoo-user] [OT] File merge tool

2009-07-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Summary:
Any suggestions for a file merge tool?

Details:

I'd like to try just actually manually merging bookmarks.html files
from different computers.  Diff and Patch seem kind of hard or maybe
impossible to use for this.

If you have identical parts in different places they will just keep
adding up... no way to weed out duplication.

If there anything that can do that or at least help me do it.

I'm not talking about bookmark merge/storage things like Xmarks or
foxmarks.   My files are not so large that I couldn't do it by hand
but would need some smart helper tool. 





[gentoo-user] Re: Still getting calls to gcc-i486

2009-07-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Heiko Wundram he...@xencon.net writes:

 On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:13:01 -0500, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com
 wrote:
 snip
 So far I haven't found any instance of i486 files remaining on the
 system... what else might evoke that output?

 As I said: some Python makefile retains the reference to the (former) i486
 compiler. That Makefile is used when building packages using distutils
 (that's what's happening here). If remerging Python itself didn't help, how
 about grepping /usr/lib/python2.6 for i486, and replacing the matching
 string by hand?

 grep -R i486 /usr/lib/python2.6

 On my system (i686), it's /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile that matches.
 And that should also be what's used by distutils.

Yup... I didn't quite follow your first post about that.  And assumed
the re-emerge of python under i686 would fix it.

But after editing multiple occurrances of i486 in
/usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile ... pycairo now emerges with no
errors.. thanks.





[gentoo-user] Re: Still getting calls to gcc-i486

2009-07-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Also ... anyone have another idea how to iron this out.  I've done
 everything suggested here in this thread but still cannot compile
 pycairo successfully.

How about it folks... anymore suggestions on this:
emerge error:
[...]
building 'cairo._cairo' extension
creating build/temp.linux-i686-2.6
creating build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/cairo
i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -DNDEBUG -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fPIC 
-I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 
-I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/python2.6 -c cairo/cairomodule.c -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/cairo/cairomodule.o
unable to execute i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: No such file or directory
error: command 'i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1
[...]

So far I haven't found any instance of i486 files remaining on the
system... what else might evoke that output?

CHOST has been i686 for a good while now... thru at least 2 updated
and no problems... but it was once i486... I did all the removal steps
and all the suggestions offered in this thread... but still get the
same error.




[gentoo-user] Still getting calls to gcc-i486

2009-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
On a recent update world I get a failure on pycairo that appears to be
the result of a call for gcc-i486.   

A month or more ago I went thru the process of changing /etc/make.conf
from i486 to i686... deleting all instances of files with i486.

I've lost track of where all the guff was located but apparently I
missed something can anyone tell me where to look?

emerge error:
[...]
building 'cairo._cairo' extension
creating build/temp.linux-i686-2.6
creating build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/cairo
i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -DNDEBUG -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fPIC 
-I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 
-I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/python2.6 -c cairo/cairomodule.c -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/cairo/cairomodule.o
unable to execute i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: No such file or directory
error: command 'i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1
[...]




[gentoo-user] Re: Still getting calls to gcc-i486

2009-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes:


[...]

 i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: No such file or directory error: command
 'i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1
 [...]

 did you run fix-libtool.sh?

Doing so failed to help in any way.

root # fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch i486-pc-linux-gnu
* Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...
 *   [1/5] Scanning /lib ...
 *   [2/5] Scanning /usr/lib ...
 *   [3/5] Scanning //usr//lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib ...
 *   [4/5] Scanning /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib ...
 *   [5/5] Scanning /usr/local/lib ...

Looks like nothing was found.

reemerge pycairo fails with same error

Heiko Wundram he...@xencon.net writes:


[...]

 unable to execute i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: No such file or directory
 error: command 'i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1
 [...]

 Re-merge python. Python keeps the compiler that was used to compile it in a
 separate Makefile that's used to compile Python packages (with
 distutils), and that's what you're hitting here (as you haven't updated
 that).

That went off without error, but then going back to update world fails
at pycairo with same error message.





[gentoo-user] Re: Still getting calls to gcc-i486

2009-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes:

 That went off without error, but then going back to update world fails
 at pycairo with same error message.

 you could grep for i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc

I'm not sure what you had in mind there... or where to grep -r but a
grep -r from `/' has run for several hours and turned up nothing.

I finished the update world by using --skip-first but with the update
done, going back to pycairo... it still fails exactly the same.

Can you be a little more specific about what you are thinking with the
grep idea?

Also ... anyone have another idea how to iron this out.  I've done
everything suggested here in this thread but still cannot compile
pycairo successfully.

Do I really need it... what other operations might use it?

Using the `-t' flag to emerge like `-vpuDt world' shows a chain of stuff
related to emacs-cvs:

  These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

  Calculating dependencies... done!

  [nomerge ] app-editors/emacs-cvs-23.0.96 USE=X alsa gif gpm svg xpm
  -Xaw3d -dbus -gtk -gzip-e l -hesiod -jpeg -kerberos -m17n-lib -motif
  -png -sound -source -tiff -toolkit-scroll-bars -xft
  
  [nomerge ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.26.0 USE=zlib -debug -doc
  
  [nomerge ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.15 USE=bzip2 python -debug -doc
  -gnome
  
  [nomerge ] dev-python/pygtk-2.14.1 USE=X -doc -examples
  
  [ebuild U ] dev-python/pycairo-1.8.6 [1.8.4] USE=-doc% -examples 0
  kB

But I'd sooner find why i486 gcc is getting involved.




[gentoo-user] Request for [OT] advice

2009-06-28 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I go about merging two bookmarks.html style files... and not
lose any or duplicate any?

I realize the de-duping part is probably not going to be all that
thorough so maybe just at some level, remove dups.

It seems with diff and patch I end up losing bookmarks.  Also I'm not
so sure I know how to do that.  Which order to diff the files and
patch etc.

But also it seems those tools may interfere with the necessary format
to obtain a bookmark.html syle result once imported into `firefox'.

I realize there are bookmark sites that claim to be able to do this.
And even tools in portage to create you own server also foxmarks
claims to allow a server setup.

I've tried many of the above choices and for one reason or another
either failed or didn't like the result.

I want to know if I can accomplish something worthwhile with common
scripting tools and a pretty low level of skill with them.




[gentoo-user] gcc error compiling imagemagic

2009-06-24 Thread Harry Putnam
emerging imagemagick ... I hit this gcc error:

[...]
   
-L/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/work/ImageMagick-6.5.2-9/PerlMagick/../magick/.libs
 -lMagickCore 
-L/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/work/ImageMagick-6.5.2-9/PerlMagick/../wand/.libs
 -lMagickWand -lperl -lm \
***  
gcc-config: error: could not run/locate 'i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc'
***
make[3]: *** [blib/arch/auto/Image/Magick/Magick.so] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/work/ImageMagick-6.5.2-9/PerlMagick'
make[2]: *** [install-exec-perl] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/work/ImageMagick-6.5.2-9'
make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/work/ImageMagick-6.5.2-9'
make: *** [install] Error 2

Between the asterisks ... it appears to be looking for the wrong gcc.

Setting from /etc/make.conf
  ## from an old backup ##
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

I did once have 486 in there but followed the gcc guide to get changed
up.

That guide recommended removing the old 486 files... in a couple of
places but I don't recall they were in a bin directory.

I do see some i486 files in /usr/bin:

i486-pc-linux-gnu-c++   i486-pc-linux-gnu-g++
i486-pc-linux-gnu-cpp   i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
i486-pc-linux-gnu-gfortran 

but also the i686 are there too:
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-addr2line   i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ 
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar  i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++-4.3.2   
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-as  i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++ i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-4.3.2   
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++-4.3.2   i686-pc-linux-gnu-gfortran
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++filt i686-pc-linux-gnu-gfortran-4.3.2  
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-cpp i686-pc-linux-gnu-gprof   
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-cpp-4.3.2   i686-pc-linux-gnu-ld
  
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-nm
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-objcopy
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-objdump
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-readelf
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-size
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-strings
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip

Is this the source of the trouble... looks like all the i486 are also there
as i686 too...

And the build environment recorder at:
/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/temp/environment
appears to show nothing but i686..
  
  ARCH=x86
  ARCH_LIB=/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i486-linux
  CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CDEFINE_default=__unix__
  CFLAGS='-O2 -march=i686 -pipe'
  CFLAGS_default=
  CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CHOST_default=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CROSSCOMPILE_OPTS=
  CTARGET_default=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CVSROOT=/usr/local/cvsroot
  CVS_RSH=ssh
  CXXFLAGS='-O2 -march=i686 -pipe'
  DEFAULT_ABI=default
  DEFINED_PHASES=' compile configure install prepare setup test unpack'
  
Also I tried something may have not been all to bright.

I renamed the i486 files listed above... trying to see it that made a
difference, but imagemagick build process is still looking for an
i486 file:
 
 From most recent emerge attempt:
  
  [...]
  make[3]: i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Command not found
  [...]

Anyone know what is causing this?




[gentoo-user] Re: gcc error compiling imagemagic

2009-06-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 emerging imagemagick ... I hit this gcc error:

 [...]

 -L/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/work/ImageMagick-6.5.2-9/PerlMagick/../magick/.libs
  -lMagickCore 
 -L/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.2.9/work/ImageMagick-6.5.2-9/PerlMagick/../wand/.libs
  -lMagickWand -lperl -lm \
 ***  
 gcc-config: error: could not run/locate 'i486-pc-linux-gnu-gcc'
 ***

I've found quite a lot of help on this after enough googling.
Maybe I'll post again after trying all I've found
meantime please just ignore this post and the original.




[gentoo-user] need smbpasswd coaching

2009-06-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Its so seldom that I have to work on samba config I forget between
times whatever steps are needed.

This time I just copied an old config over to a new[ish] gentoo
install.

Now attempting to set smbpasswds.  First I tried to give a windows
client user name (but no such user on gentoo OS). Failed with message
user not found 

Ok.. I think I recall somekind of mapping to do for aliasing windows
user to a user on gentoo server.

So next tried an actual Gentoo user name:

  smbpasswd reader
root # smbpasswd reader
  New SMB password:
  Retype new SMB password:
  Failed to find entry for user reader.
  Failed to modify password entry for user reader
 
Where is smbpasswd looking for an entry for reader?




[gentoo-user] Re: need smbpasswd coaching

2009-06-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 So next tried an actual Gentoo user name:

   smbpasswd reader
 root # smbpasswd reader

Gackkk I left out the all important -a

Sorry for the line noise




[gentoo-user] Re: Canonical place to list modules to load

2009-06-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:

 On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:

  So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it?

 It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5
 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6.  This has always been in the
 handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too.

 That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved
 to /etc/conf.d/modules.

Thanks... that's what I was after.

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

[...]
Alan M wrote:
 With baselayout-1, the layout was a bit haphazard. baselayout-2 and openrc 
 took the opportunity to tidy all this up.

And /etc/conf.d/modules does seem saner.




[gentoo-user] Re: Canonical place to list modules to load

2009-06-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Shields laebsh...@gmail.com writes:

 It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5
 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6.  This has always been in the
 handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too.

Yeah... thats why I was confused.  But as you see, things are
different with baselayout2.

I was fortunate in that I came to baselayout2 on a completely new
install.  I imagine its a bit more confusing moving from baselayout1
to 2.




[gentoo-user] Re: Sysloggers

2009-06-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 Perhaps rsyslog?

 http://www.rsyslog.com
 
   Among others, it offers support for on-demand disk buffering, reliable 
 syslog over TCP, SSL, TLS and RELP, writing to databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL, 
 Oracle, and many more), email alerting, fully configurable output formats 
 (including high-precision timestamps), the ability to filter on any part of 
 the syslog message, on-the-wire message compression, and the ability to 
 convert text files to syslog. It is a drop-in replacement for stock syslogd 
 and able to work with the same configuration file syntax.
 

 It's in portage.

And I can say as an rsyslog user...of some mnths, that even if you
don't need all those refinements, for just basic use it just like
syslog and doesn't require learning yet another config syntax like
syslog-ng does.




[gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load

2009-06-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Where do we list modules we want loaded at boot?

When I run  modprobe fuse
WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files
 belong  into /etc/modprobe.d/.

/etc/modprobe.conf doesn't actually appear to have any modules listed
but does list a herd of aliases for modules.

Looking under /etc/modprobe.d
aliases.conf  blacklist.conf  i386.conf  pnp-aliases.conf

All of which appear to hold the same or more lists of aliases.

So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it?




[gentoo-user] Installing apache with USE='-suexec'

2009-06-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Starting to emerge apache I see the default USE flags include
-suexec.  I'm not much of an apache buff but wondered if that would
have a bad effect on allowing users to run cig scripts.

I'm not even sure its related... but recall something dimly about
using suexec to run such scripts.




[gentoo-user] Can I get a tip for reading eix output?

2009-06-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Can I get a likely search string for the massive man page of eix to
understand all the info contained in its ouput.

A quick search on `output' seems to miss it.

Things like found in this output:

eix ^apr$ 

* dev-libs/apr
 Available versions:  (1)  1.2.11!t (~)1.2.12!t (~)1.3.0!t 1.3.2!t 1.3.3!t 
1.3.5!t
{debug doc ipv6 urandom}
 Homepage:http://apr.apache.org/
 Description: Apache Portable Runtime Library


What do the `!t' entries following the versions available mean?

Also, is it odd to have older versions under `~'?




[gentoo-user] Re: apache dep apr no emerge

2009-06-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Setup:
pc
2.6.30-gentoo-r1_rdr_3
profile=default/linux/x86/2008.0

 This a fresh install... just being built up now.
 Attempting to emerge apache, and breaking on the depenedency apr.

 Apparently something to do with not being able to determine 
 `tagged configuration'

 Anyone recognize what the problem is? 

[...]

For anyone searching about problems with apache and apr here is the
bug report and advice

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236217




[gentoo-user] Re: Whey two dangling symlinks /etc/init.d/ depscan.sh runscript.sh

2009-06-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes:

 On Montag 15 Juni 2009, Harry Putnam wrote:
 This is a very new install but somehow I have two dangling symlinks in
 /etc/init.d.

   depscan.sh and runscript.sh

 Anyone know where these come from or if they are signs of a problem?

 have you switched to baselayout2/openrc?

Not on purpose.

I started the installation with stage3 of 06/07 or close and have
updated to current portage running ~x86.

Would an 06/07 to current have involved the switch you mention?




[gentoo-user] Re: About procmail and getline

2009-06-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de writes:

 * Harry Putnam (rea...@newsguy.com) [12.06.09 16:41]:
 
 There is a patch offered but still one would think using standard
 emerge on a package that is outside the `~' daredevil stage and is not
 masked, it should `just work' [tm]. 
 


 When I read the bug rightfully, procmail did not build with glibc 
 2.10.1, which is *not* stable yet, especially because of a lot packages 
 which don't build cleanly with it at the moment.

 So if you'd use the stable glibc it would build fine. There is no need 
 to mark procmail in any way. ~x86 should be able to apply patches on 
 their own, or wait until the patch arrives in tree.

Having run ~x86 since starting to build this install... how big of a
problem would it be to return to stable?




[gentoo-user] Re: About procmail and getline

2009-06-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de writes:

 * Harry Putnam (rea...@newsguy.com) [12.06.09 16:41]:
 
 There is a patch offered but still one would think using standard
 emerge on a package that is outside the `~' daredevil stage and is not
 masked, it should `just work' [tm]. 
 


 When I read the bug rightfully, procmail did not build with glibc 
 2.10.1, which is *not* stable yet, especially because of a lot packages 
 which don't build cleanly with it at the moment.

 So if you'd use the stable glibc it would build fine. There is no need 
 to mark procmail in any way. ~x86 should be able to apply patches on 
 their own, or wait until the patch arrives in tree.

Probably should use only stable but never have in over 5 yrs.
Probably much to the dismay of this list.

But even then, when a package is known in advance NOT to install with
current ~x86 tools, seems there would be some way to let user know
that.

Since you've said it is because of glibc... and this is a known bug
seems there might be a way to flag or mark procmail as incompatible
with it.

Maybe that would be way to hard to keep up with?




[gentoo-user] Re: About procmail and getline

2009-06-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de writes:

 First of all the bug is fixed, and a working patch was there 1 day after 
 the opening. I call this a fast response...
 
 For ~x86 this is a working solution, and if you use ~x86: b.g.o *is* the 
 users information system and applying patches should be no problem.

Point taken.
 
 The problem with glibc is, that you only find issues when you recompile 
 your whole world, which is not needed in most cases. And most of the 
 errors with glibc-2.10.1 result from wrong castings, which is only a 
 compile time issue not a run issue.

 And all these problems are upstream, so you can patch for yourself in 
 gentoo, but the cleaner solution is to wait for upstream to include the 
 patch there. And release a new version, when they do too...

Thanks for your patience and I learned in an earlier thread one very easy
way to get things working... 

I guess you'd still call it a patch... but not requiring setting up
your own local portage and producing a patched version.

ebuild /usr/portage/section/pkg/pkg.ebuild configure

  Do necessary manipulations

ebuild /usr/portage/section/pkg/pkg.ebuild merge

I realize in some cases that would be a recurring chore but I kind of
doubt it this time.  procmail will not likely need updating for some
time and then like you've suggested portage will have it fixed.




[gentoo-user] Whey two dangling symlinks /etc/init.d/ depscan.sh runscript.sh

2009-06-14 Thread Harry Putnam
This is a very new install but somehow I have two dangling symlinks in
/etc/init.d.

  depscan.sh and runscript.sh

Anyone know where these come from or if they are signs of a problem?




[gentoo-user] Re: Introduce Manual manipulation during an emerge

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com writes:

 Is there a reason to use i486 stage3? I think an i686 one might have
 been available and a better hit if your system is/was set up as an i686
 before this? Well, not that it counts now, gotta go with what you have
 unpacked.

Looking at those stages again... it is not apparent in any way that I
should have gotten something besides x86.

I see there is an i686.  But apparently I was to slow to figure out
that I needed it.

Thanks ... I'm working thru the CHOST doc now.




[gentoo-user] set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Setting a version to local kernel builds has been discussed here so
sorry to bang on it some more.

I found information here from a previous thread and kept one of the
answers but finding now that I don't really understand it.

Or am doing the proceedure wrong.

It was Neil B's post:

  From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
  Subject: Re: Append string on Kernel builds
  Newsgroups: gmane.linux.gentoo.user
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:11:22 +
  Message-ID: 20090120141122.46b83...@krikkit
  
  On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:43:56 -0600, rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
  
   I like to use that and put `-$MYHOST' as string.  I wondered if
   there is any way to set a numericly incrementing string.  Maybe
   some trick syntax that can go in that spot?
  
  cd /usr/src/linux
  echo -${MYHOST}- localversion1
  ln -s .version localversion2
  
  The build system adds the contents of any localversion* files it
  finds, and it also increments .version.


But when I try this I get only the $MYHOST part (in this case
host=reader) and not the increment.

So for linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r1

and in /usr/src/linux
 cat localverion1:
  _reader_

Cat .version:
  1
And the symlink
 ls -l localversion2
 lrwxrwxrwx [...] Jun 12 18:01 localversion2 - .version
I get this naming after a build:

  vimlinuz-2.6.30-gentoo-r1_reader_

No version gets appended.

I understood it should have also append the numeric version and
increment it each time I build that kernel.

Anyone see where I'm dorking this up?




[gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

 So for linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r1

 and in /usr/src/linux
  cat localverion1:
   _reader_

 Cat .version:
   1
 And the symlink
  ls -l localversion2
  lrwxrwxrwx [...] Jun 12 18:01 localversion2 - .version
 I get this naming after a build:

   vimlinuz-2.6.30-gentoo-r1_reader_

 No version gets appended.

 I understood it should have also append the numeric version and
 increment it each time I build that kernel.

 Anyone see where I'm dorking this up?

 I only see two thing:

 Did you set both

 ()  Local version - append to kernel release

That one needs to be left blank right?  Else what ever you put there
will appear in kernel name and I'm using localversion files for that.

 [ ] Automatically append version information to the version string

This one is checked.

 In General setup?

 Second, you appear to have used a file called localverion1 instead of 
 localversion1

 Is that a real mistake, or just a typo in your mail?

Its a typo... I just checked to make sure though.. would have been nice if
a real missnaming was the problem.

ls -l  /usr/src/linux/localversion*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion2 - .version




[gentoo-user] Re: set local kenel version

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

 On Saturday 13 June 2009 18:05:37 Harry Putnam wrote:
  Is that a real mistake, or just a typo in your mail?

 Its a typo... I just checked to make sure though.. would have been nice if
 a real missnaming was the problem.

 ls -l  /usr/src/linux/localversion*
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 12 18:01 /usr/src/linux/localversion2 -
 .version

 Pity - I was hoping you'd have an easy fix here :-)

 localversion is a feature I never use, so I fear I won't be able to help you 
 much further...

You did already you made me look around better and finally
recompile to test once more and now it works.

Some kind of operator dimmness going on before I guess.




[gentoo-user] apache dep apr no emerge

2009-06-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup:
   pc
   2.6.30-gentoo-r1_rdr_3
   profile=default/linux/x86/2008.0

This a fresh install... just being built up now.
Attempting to emerge apache, and breaking on the depenedency apr.

Apparently something to do with not being able to determine 
`tagged configuration'

Anyone recognize what the problem is? 

Tail of emerge below:

 Source configured.
 Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5 ...
make 
make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5'
/bin/sh /usr/bin/libtool --silent --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread 
 -O2 -march=i686 -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLINUX=2 -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE 
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE   -I./include 
-I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5/include/arch/unix 
-I./include/arch/unix 
-I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5/include/arch/unix 
-I/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5/include  -o 
passwd/apr_getpass.lo -c passwd/apr_getpass.c  touch passwd/apr_getpass.lo
libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
make[1]: *** [passwd/apr_getpass.lo] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/apr-1.3.5/work/apr-1.3.5'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 * 
 * ERROR: dev-libs/apr-1.3.5 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2691:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake || die emake failed;
 *  The die message:
 *   emake failed




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