Re: [gentoo-user] How can I keep baselayout-1?

[JD Horelick]

I upgraded 2 systems (both servers, one about 30 miles from me and one
a VPS on another continent) and had zero issues. Unless you have the
king of all obscure setups or you insist on merging config files
by-hand instead of using etc-update or dispatch-conf, there's only a
miniscule chance that you'll have any problems. I'd say go for it.

On 8 December 2011 09:41, Jarry  wrote:
>
> This server is ~50 miles away, and if I screw something
> and it does not boot up, I will have to go there and fix it
> on place. One small typo in ~50 config-files which must be
> updated is just enough to cause it...
>
> Anyway I'm surprised that everything older than 2.0.3
> has been simply thrown overboard, especially while it
> worked for us without a problem for many years...
>
>
> Jarry
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unity on Gentoo?

[JD Horelick]

On 24 September 2011 12:33, James Broadhead  wrote:
> On 24 September 2011 06:53, Nilesh Govindarajan  wrote:
>> Unity is kinda famous, want to try it on Gentoo. Can't find a package in
>> `eix -sS unity', I'm missing something?
>
> What you're missing is the experience of having used it. (Or having
> *tried* to use it).
>
> Once you have, you will see why no one is enthusiastic enough to write
> an ebuild and support it in gentoo (or an overlay).
>
> I'm just glad that Ubuntu still ships with vanilla Gnome (or "Ubuntu
> Classic") by default -- I maintain a few Ubuntu systems for members of
> my family.
>
>
> J
>
>



Just my opinion here, but i've used both Unity and gnome-shell and a
*MUCH* prefer Unity (IMO, I could live with Unity if GNOME2 ever went
away, i know i couldn't live with gnome-shell). It seems to have a
more well thought-out interface, it's getting massive improvements and
it's really sane and non-obtrusive (compared to gnome-shell, I still
prefer a "traditional desktop experience").

Re: [gentoo-user] What do new keywords mean?

[JD Horelick]

On 5 September 2011 02:24, Walter Dnes  wrote:
>  Whilst spelunking through ebuild files I notice that in addition to
> the usual ~amd64 and ~x86 keywords, I also see ~amd64-linux and
> ~x86-linux.  What is the significance of this?
>
> --
> Walter Dnes 
>
>

As far as I am aware, Gentoo now supports something called prefix
installations where you can use portage on top of (at least some of)
the BSD's and Solaris and some old-school Unixes and other operating
systems that aren't linux, the ~x86-linux keywords are to just signify
that it's only being stabilised for linux, not any of the other
operating systems. I could be wrong though.

Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

[JD Horelick]

On 2 September 2011 03:45, Yohan Pereira  wrote:
> On Friday 02 Sep 2011 09:27:09 András Csányi wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>
>>
>
>> In the morning after I have synced my portage I saw there is a
>
>> google-chrome and chromium package. The version numbers are the same.
>
>> I watched the websites and basically they are the same. Google Chrome
>
>> is the Chrome browser and the Chromium is the open source project. I
>
>> would like to know what is the difference between them and why do we
>
>> have two package?
>
>>
>
>> Thanks in advance for any information!
>
>>
>
>> András
>
>
>
> This is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_chrome
>
>
>
> Chromium implements a similar feature set as Chrome, but lacks built-in
> automatic updates, built-in PDF reader and Google branding, and most
> noticeably has a blue-colored logo in place of the multicolored Google logo.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> - Yohan Pereira
>
>
>
> "A man can do as he will, but not will as he will" - Schopenhauer

Also, one is a binary, one is source that you need to compile. And
Chromium is an EXTREMELY long compile

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)

[JD]

On 07/02/2011 06:26 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Grant  [11-07-03 01:12]:

The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I
also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea.  The system is for
playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever.  If you're familiar
with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far
as a motherboard and other components?  Any features a Gentoo'er
should look for?

- Grant

Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI?

Yep.  Unless you have old ATI hardware.  Current hardware doesn't work well.
  Since he wants to buy new stuff, NVidia is recommended.

That's what I was afraid of.  The fact that Nvidia has stopped making
onboard video will pose a problem.  I could install an Nvidia video
card but I'm trying to keep temps low and I don't want a third fan in
the case.

- Grant


Hi Grant,

half a year ago my motherboard lost its blue smoke and I had to buy a
new PC (the rest of the old one was outdated).

One of my thoughts was: No graphics card with a fan!

But the guy in the store said, that graphics cards without a fan has a
problem: Either they are to slow (less heat) to be bought by the
people or they are fast enough to be bought, but they will die
sooner/easier due to a too hot GPU.

He gave me a card with fans and said: "If you hear something too loud
-- bring it back."
I tested the card and: Nothing. The only thing I hear is the very
quiet fan of the PC case.

The card is a: MSI N430GT PCI Express 2.0.

It has two fans, which means lesser noise since both fans can run
at lower speed.

You said, you will not need a gamer graphics card. But if you are a
fan of rendering (Blender,Luxrendere etc...) you may consider a card
with more muscles since GPU based rendering is the way to go.

BUT:
When reading the driver informations from nvidia I found that the
sections saying "Added support for" are still missing the GT 430.
I dont know whether this has any impact to you work -- the card runs
well with Linux and the OpenGL-based Blender does not have any
problems (its GPU based render engine is currently under development
so I didnt test that...)

If you are intereseted in the setup of my PC, post me a mail!

Best regards,
mcc

Interesting recommendation.
Which of the two has a better history of providing good
support for linux drivers for their products?

Re: [gentoo-user] md device hda -> sda

[JD]

  
  
On 07/01/2011 09:09 PM, Adam Carter wrote:

  
What about your grub.conf (or /boot/grub/menu.lst) ?

  
  
Its still running lilo, which references the meta devices; and the
raid-extra-boot is just a fallback if the metadevice is down IIRC (its
a mirror obviously)

boot = /dev/md0
raid-extra-boot=/dev/hda,/dev/hdc

image = /boot/kernel-2.6.38-r6ata
label = 2.6.38-r6ata
root = /dev/md2
read-only




I do not use lilo.
But, if it boots, then no
problems :)

  
  

Re: [gentoo-user] md device hda -> sda

[JD]

  
  
On 07/01/2011 08:49 PM, Adam Carter wrote:

  I havent touched the md setup on this box since it was built ~6years
ago, but for the latest kernel/udev i've finally disabled the old IDE
stuff, so the disks will now appear as sda/sdc instead of hda/hdc at
next boot. Will the change be autodetected, or will I need to update a
configuration file? There's no references to the hd devices in /etc...

The system was updated to openrc a while back, and has been restarted
a number of times since then.




What about your grub.conf (or
/boot/grub/menu.lst) ?

For example do you have

boot=/dev/sda

or

boot=/dev/hda

Only places that grub uses the hd reference are in  lines like:
splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
root (hd0,1)
and
rootnoverify (hd1,0)

I am not sure if grub version 2 does away with references to hd.

  
  

Re: [gentoo-user] Info about PCMCIA Combo USB 2.0 & SATA CardBus, Model: PPA 1158

[JD]

On 06/30/2011 10:40 AM, Thanasis wrote:

It is probably supported, but if I were you, I would ask at the
linux-kernel mailing list
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/#s3-1


I stumbled on 2 blogs which enumerated these 2 chipsets as fully 
supported since several years ago.


Thanx,

JD

Re: [gentoo-user] Info about PCMCIA Combo USB 2.0 & SATA CardBus,,Model: PPA 1158

[JD]

  
  
On 06/30/2011 10:14 AM, Dale wrote:

  
  

Thanx Dale.
I wish they had used chipset name instead of the blanket VIA.
But it that's fine. 
By the way, I tried to buy the card, but their website
claims I do not have cookies enabled, which is a farce, 
as just about every web site I visit leaves a whole bunch
of cookies from the primary web site and from their advertisers.

Cheers,
        JD

  
  

Re: [gentoo-user] Info about PCMCIA Combo USB 2.0 & SATA CardBus,,Model: PPA 1158

[JD]

  
  
On 06/29/2011 10:20 PM, Thanasis wrote:
on
  06/30/2011 07:34 AM JD wrote the following:
  This pcmcia card has a couple of bad raps
from windows users.
I need this card for my laptop because I have an external HD
enclosure
with eSATA port and my laptop lacks USB 2.0 (has USB 1.1).
The manufacturer emailed me and claimed the card was tested
in kernel 2.6.32 and passed.
I am trying to get some info about other users who may have
used it in their laptops running any version of linux.

The card's web site is:
http://ppa-usa.com/computer-products/sata/pcmcia-combo-usb-2-0-and-sata-cardbus.html

  
  
  I think the only way to be sure, is to find out the chipset that
  the
  card has.
  
  

Below is the response from PPA,
to my request for chipset info.
I am searched the kernel 2.6.39.2 (which I got from kernel.org)
 source for VT6214  and for  VT6421
and did not get any hits.


 Original Message 

  

  Subject: 
  Re: Contact Form


  Date: 
  Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:32:45 -0400


  From: 
  inqu...@ppa-usa.com


  To: 
      JD 

  



The card uses the VIA VT6214 chipset for USB and the VIA chipset
for SATA.

Thank you,

PPA Int'l

  

Re: [gentoo-user] Info about PCMCIA Combo USB 2.0 & SATA CardBus,,Model: PPA 1158

[JD]

  
  
On 06/29/2011 11:09 PM, Thanasis wrote:

  on 06/30/2011 08:20 AM JD wrote the following:

  
On 06/29/2011 10:20 PM, Thanasis wrote:


  


  
  I think the only way to be sure, is to find out the chipset that the
card has.


Thanx. I have emailed the manufacturer and asked.
Waiting for a reply.


  
  Be aware that even if there is a reference of the chipset on the item's
packaging, there is a (small?) possibility the manufacturer might have
changed the hardware, without taking care to update the reference
accordingly.




Yes - I have seen other blogs
stating as much about wifi cards.
But I hope thatthe individual who I am in contact with is a
little
more knowledgeable than that :)

  
  

Re: [gentoo-user] Info about PCMCIA Combo USB 2.0 & SATA CardBus,,Model: PPA 1158

[JD]

On 06/29/2011 10:20 PM, Thanasis wrote:

on 06/30/2011 07:34 AM JD wrote the following:

This pcmcia card has a couple of bad raps from windows users.
I need this card for my laptop because I have an external HD enclosure
with eSATA port and my laptop lacks USB 2.0 (has USB 1.1).
The manufacturer emailed me and claimed the card was tested
in kernel 2.6.32 and passed.
I am trying to get some info about other users who may have
used it in their laptops running any version of linux.

The card's web site is:
http://ppa-usa.com/computer-products/sata/pcmcia-combo-usb-2-0-and-sata-cardbus.html


I think the only way to be sure, is to find out the chipset that the
card has.

Thanx. I have emailed the manufacturer and asked.
Waiting for a reply.

Cheers,

JD

RE: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

[JD]

-Original Message-
From: Johannes Skov Frandsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:24 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

Francisco Rivas skrev:
> Hi all friends, I really like this situations because we learn so 
> much...I have to thank you to all for this experience...
>
> Well we got a lot of work to do for help Johannes.
>
> You fell confortable installing the ati-drivers manually?, if your 
> aswer is Yes, then:
>
> 1.- Disable all support for ati in the kernel
>
> 2.- Enable the framebuffer console like 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash, because I know (for sure) you 
> want a grubsplash and bootsplash :D :
>
> 3.- Unmerge all ati driver you have installed.
>
> 4.- Execute manually the installation and finally aticonfig --initial, 
> and startx.
>
> Note : I have :
> X.org  :
>   X Window System Version 7.1.1
>   Release Date: 12 May 2006
>   X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
>   Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
>   Current Operating System: Linux dta-desktop 2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP 
> PREEMPT Wed May 9 17:07:22 VET 2007 i686
>   Build Date: 28 February 2007
>   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>to make sure that you have the latest version.
>   Module Loader present
>
> Kernel :
>   2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP PREEMPT (but I has 2.6.20-r6,r7,r8) and it 
> works too.
>
> Ati Card : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
>   $fglrxinfo
>  OpenGL vendor string : ATI Technologies Inc.
>  OpenGL renderer string : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
> OpenGL version string : 2.0.6458 (8.36.5)
>
> If your answer is No. Try with #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge 
> ati-drivers, in my case is
> *  x11-apps/ati-drivers-extra
>   Latest version available: 8.33.6
>   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>   Size of files: 57,246 kB
>   Homepage:  http://www.ati.com 
>   Description:   Ati precompiled drivers extra application
>   License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0
>
> *  x11-drivers/ati-drivers
>   Latest version available: 8.35.5
>   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>   Size of files: 55,971 kB
>   Homepage:  http://www.ati.com
>   Description:   Ati precompiled drivers for recent chipsets
>   License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0
>
> Emerge the 8.35.5 and aticonfig --initial
>
> I hope this help you...Please comment us your experience...
>
> -- 
> Francisco Rivas
> Linux User (New) : #448324
> Linux Machine (New) : 355187
Hi everybody

Thanks for all the help so far,,, I'm embarrassed/sorry to say that non 
of it really worked so far.

I recompile the  kernel without any ati support and installed 8.35.5 
driver without a problem.
But aticonfig claims it can't run because of an invalid xorg.conf file 
and i can't generate a new one with 'Xorg -configure'
it just prints this error:

marvin / Xorg -configure

X Window System Version 7.2.0
Release Date: 22 January 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux marvin 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #6 SMP Fri May 
11 17:52:
30 GMT 2007 i686
Build Date: 11 May 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri May 11 23:11:24 2007
List of video drivers:
ati
atimisc
fglrx
radeon
savage
r128

Backtrace:
0: Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80c7b64]
1: [0xe420]
2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxProbeMain+0x13d) 
[0xb74a5b1
d]
3: Xorg(DoConfigure+0x208) [0x80ca2e8]
4: Xorg(InitOutput+0x685) [0x809fae5]
5: Xorg(main+0x27b) [0x806e26b]
6: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd8) [0xb7c86838]
7: Xorg(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa1) [0x806d7a1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

Aborted

Have you tried this with removing fglrx?  I've had similar issues with other
video drivers, and by removing fglrx from the equation I've been able to at
least get X to fire up.

Currently I'm supporting the theory that Young Sun is right, and that 
the problem is the version of Xorg.

Tomorrow I will try to uninstall the compiled drivers from ati and try 
the open source drivers. If that doesn't work
I'm feeling inclined to buy a new nvidia card instead.

Maybe I could also try to make the onboard S3 savage card  work, 
although I have never been a big fan of 
graphic cards with shared memory.

Thanks again for all the help

Johannes


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: new install - X fails

[JD]

Yes, I believe so.  I got the iso's (both stage 3 and minimal 2007) from
gentoo.org .  Is there a more recent release that would have the drivers for
the 945 ?

-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:01 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: new install - X fails

JD  atlantic.net> writes:

> 
> Just got a D420 laptop and wanted to setup gentoo...
> Booted from cd, got to the OpenGL start, and X fails ...


Are you using 2007.0 based installation media? It was just
release:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng



hth

James




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RE: [gentoo-user] new install - X fails

[JD]

Thanks, Alex.  I had to run 'installer' from commandline.  Went with the
recommended setup; got an Exception that the dialog says "this is a Bad
Thing" ... I've done it twice, gotten to this point, and whether I choose
'yes' or 'no' to the prompt at this point, the system hangs, with no choice
but to start over.  So, the stage 3 installer for 64 bit looks hosed.  I'm
afraid its back to the Minimal CD and building the system again from
scratch.  I really hope the developer's can get this resolved... I was
perfectly happy with stage1 and building from scratch back in the beginning.
This 'helping to get a system up faster' just isn't working when it comes to
gentoo...

-Original Message-
From: Aleksandar L. Dimitrov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:13 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new install - X fails

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 19:52 -0400, JD wrote:
> Just got a D420 laptop and wanted to setup gentoo...
> Booted from cd, got to the OpenGL start, and X fails ...
> 
> On looking at the details dialog, I find
> Dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol:
> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
> (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)

That means it was not able to find the GLcore module. Try locating it
with
$ locate libGLcore.so
on my system its in /usr/lib. You could den update the modules path in
xorg.conf or symlink (but the latter is no good idea)
Unfortunately I have no idea which package it belongs to. (Xorg itself?)

> 
> In the X details dialog, other than the mouse error, and (what seems like)
> all of the fonts being invalid (Info and Warnings)
> The last line says:
> (EE) No devices detected.
> Fatal server error:
> No screens found
> 
It just can't find a lot of fonts. Don't worry, they can be added later.
A recent version of x.org should really behave well despite this. The
"No Screens found" is the usual output xorg gives when it encounters one
or more errors during start up.

> The display (according to lspci) is Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express.
> 
> Do I need to customize the xorg.conf file to get the install to work?
> 

You could just try commenting the line 'Load "GLcore"' in xorg.conf.
That's just if you don't need GL-support for things like beryl.
> 

Regards, Aleks

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[gentoo-user] new install - X fails

[JD]

Just got a D420 laptop and wanted to setup gentoo...
Booted from cd, got to the OpenGL start, and X fails ...

On looking at the details dialog, I find
Dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol:
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)

In the X details dialog, other than the mouse error, and (what seems like)
all of the fonts being invalid (Info and Warnings)
The last line says:
(EE) No devices detected.
Fatal server error:
No screens found

The display (according to lspci) is Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express.

Do I need to customize the xorg.conf file to get the install to work?


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RE: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710

[JD]

I might be able to help as well (also didn't see the earlier part of this
thread)... I have several M710's at work running both gentoo and Ubuntu, and
X is running ok on them.  Getting the config from a liveCD is a good place
to start if you're really not sure.  One thing though - since some other
items were mentioned (albeit briefly), regarding kernel and splashimage,
maybe a quick review of the system would refresh those of us who are now on
the radar with you... sounds like re-hashing, but we can't fix one thing and
break three others.  The idea here is to get you up and running with the
least additional frustration...

-Original Message-
From: Rumen Yotov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:11 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710

On Fri, 04 May 2007 08:48:20 -0400
Colleen Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> david wrote:
> > What happens when you;
> > 
> > emerge -pv xorg-x11
> > 
> What do you mean, "What happens"? It emerges, no error messages.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Colleen
> > 
> 
> 
Hi,
Don't have the OP mail-thread, but just a suggestion - boot with some
Live-CD (Knoppix comes in mind), copy the generated xorg.conf.
Later play with it, man pages, Google, ML etc.
At least will have a working Xorg.
HTH. Rumen
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RE: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710

[JD]

I just caught the tail of this thread... is this about an nvidia video?
If so, even under Ubuntu I had troubles with X.  I downloaded the nvidia
source for the driver for mine (on a couple of different machines), and
compiled it, then modprobe'd it, then added it to the autoload conf file.
X worked very nicely after that.  I just went through this same headache
with another Dell (D420) which had an Intel graphics onboard chip.
Although, in that instance, Noven really came through, showing me some of
his xorg.conf file, and pointing out the need for some fancy driver
loading...
Nvidia seems to have its own brand of headache with Linux on a few distro's.
I've taken it as a rule of thumb to compile-load-add_to_conf to avoid all of
their mess on all of my machines.
I don't know if gentoo has this in portage (easy enough to check for it),
but Ubuntu has an nvidia-kernel package that is apt-able, and then with the
driver in hand, it can be compiled and loaded.  I'm sure gentoo, (being a
superior development machine) has it (or something quite similar).

-Original Message-
From: Mick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:44 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710

On Thursday 03 May 2007 01:08, Colleen Beamer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having a heck of a time.  I've tried so many things, that I'm
> totally confused.
>
> After installing xorg-x11, I ran Xorg -configure.  It gives me a file
> with no horizontal or vertical sync.  

I would think then that you would have to enter these yourself - check the 
manufacturers manual, or the equivalent OEM product specification.  What I 
mean here is that Dell are assemblers, or box-shifters, they don't actually 
manufacture components.  Their products are usually similar with other 
differently branded products.  If you find the OEM then you should be able
to 
source the hsync for it.  

Alternatively, you could try different LiveCDs for one that successfully 
guesses these parameters and run xvidtune to see what they are, or look 
at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  You could do well to see if they load any
particular 
modules for your monitor/keyboard/mouse too.

If you haven't yet wiped out WinXP you could run msinfo.msc to find out what

the monitor reports to the MSWindows kernel.

Finally, you could try installing Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, etc. to find one
that 
recognises and configures your hardware before you copy xorg.conf for using 
it thereafter with Gentoo.

> I tried using the ddcxinfo-knoppix 
> tool, but when I did ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returned 0 0.  When I
> did ddxcinfo-knoppix -modelines, it didn't have a matching mode for my
> monitor - the default being 1920x1200.  I assume that because I don't
> have a horizontal and vertical sync in my xorg.conf file that's why the
> screen becomes all garbled when startx bombs out.

and, or it could be because you need some special driver (not familiar with 
nvidia I'm afraid).

> Xorg.0.log tells me that there is no core keyboard or mouse.  I've built
> support into the kernel.  in /dev/input/ there are choices for mice
> mouse0 and mouse1. I've tried using all of these and trying various
> drivers, but nothing works.

I'm afraid I'm not sure how to help here, but if your mouse/keyboard are not

configured properly you may never be able to boot into X.  Have you set up 
something like: 

INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics"

in your /etc/make.conf before you emerged Xorg?  You may need to also search

around for evdev (I think).

HTH.
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[JD]

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From: Novensiles divi Flamen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new gentoo user - D420

On Wed, 2 May 2007 08:06:43 JD wrote:
> Noven~
> Thanks very much for the help!  I got the kernel rebuilt and compiled, and
> used some of your xorg.conf suggestions.  X comes up fine on the D240 now!
> I really appreciate your help with this.
>
Excellent, glad to hear you got it working. FYI Beryl with AIGLX works 
brilliantly on it too :)

I've been looking into Beryl as well.  As soon as I get gnome fired up, I'll
do some more emerging... I'm looking into the possibility of setting up
another gentoo box for a friend of mine who wants to learn about Linux "from
the inside out" (as he puts it).  I'm considering just giving him the
minimal install CD and a link to the handbook (which is where I started),
and let him go to town.
Jack

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Noven~
Thanks very much for the help!  I got the kernel rebuilt and compiled, and
used some of your xorg.conf suggestions.  X comes up fine on the D240 now!
I really appreciate your help with this.

Jack

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From: Novensiles divi Flamen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:17 AM
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On Tue, 1 May 2007 15:27:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, all...
> I have a Dell Latitude D420.
> I used the minimal CD to install gentoo on this machine, and to date, have
> The OS running, along with X server emerged.
> The video (according to lspci) says it is Intel 945GM.
> I have found some articles detailing how this doesn't work with gentoo,
but
> would like to know if anyone has some insight on getting it to work.
> I found an article which said that using the I810 driver worked (to an
> extent), but I also found others which said that it doesn't.
> I'd really like to get an X workstation (with gnome or kde at this point)
> Working - at least minimally - on it.  I can get X to start with twm using
> vga, but the terminal text is unreadable (looks like garbage both for
> prompt and for text typed).  Can anyone give me some direction?  Thank you
> for the reply.  I appreciate the help.

I found that it 'just worked' for me.

I use vesafb-tng for frame buffer, the intel driver gave me too much grief
for 
not enough return (although I last tried it over a year ago). 

For DRI I use the drm_i915 and agp_intel modules.  I also have 915resolution

emerged, your need for that depends on whether your monitor has widescreen.

Here is my xorg.conf


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "LCD"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Touchpad" "AlwaysCore"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "AIGLX" "true"
Option  "BlankTime" "5"
Option  "StandbyTime" "10"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Projector"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
Screen  1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Touchpad" "AlwaysCore"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "AIGLX" "false"
EndSection


Section "Files"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/corefonts"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/local/share/fonts"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "glx"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "record"
Load  "dri"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "type1"
Load  "synaptics"
#   SubSection  "extmod"
#   Option"omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA 
extension
#   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection



Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Touchpad"
Driver  "synaptics"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mouse0"
Option  "Protocol"  "auto-dev"
Option  "LeftEdge"  "1700"
Option  "RightEdge" "5300"
Option  "TopEdge"   "1700"
Option  "BottomEdge""4200"
Option  "FingerLow" "25"
Option  "FingerHigh""30"
Option  "MaxTapTime""180"
Option  "MaxTapMove""0"
Option  "VertScrollDelta"   "100"
Option  "HorizScrollDelta"  "100"
Option  "MinSpeed"  "0.02"
Option  "MaxSpeed"  "0.08"
Option  "AccelFactor"   "0.05"
Option  "EdgeMotionMinZ""47"
Option  "EdgeMotionMaxZ""51"
Option  "EdgeMotionMinSpeed""50"
Option  "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed""55"
Option  "LeftRightScrolling""1"
Option  "UpDownScrolling"   "1"
Option  "EmulateMidButtonTime"  "75"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
Option  "SHMConfig" "on"
Option  "TapButton1""0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Dell"
ModelName"Dell internal LCD"
Option   "DPMS" "true"
#   HorizSync28.0 - 50.0
#   VertRefresh  43.0 - 75.0
#   Model

[gentoo-user] workspace setups

[JD ATL LP]

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My first email from my new gentoo laptop!

I'm trying to figure out how these workspaces 'work'.
I want to setup one for business, and another for dev.
e.g. in the business space, i'd have office apps, stock ticker, etc
showing.
in the dev space, i'd have a program editor,web browser,etc.
is there some gentoo or wiki docs that give me a good intro in how to
customize these spaces?

Thanks for the input...

John D
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