[gentoo-user] re: nvidia GeForce 8400 GS temperature readings
Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I've set up gentoo on my desktop PC. I have a question about what temperature readings for the Nvidia GPU in question are considered to be safe. At the moment, the temperature readings for my GPU, as reported by the XFCE sensors plugin are 73 degrees C. That's ok for that GPU.
[gentoo-user] Re: Selecting a Linux compatible mobo for FX8350
Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I discussed this with a hardware expert friend of mine, and he said on board GPU could interfere with certain features of the FX8350. Additionally, no support for 1600 Mhz DDR3 could slow down the system. Going by his suggestion, I'll get a HD Radeon 7750 and a 970 series motherboard. Or you can get a board like this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514 and a cheaper video card like : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127611
[gentoo-user] Re: AMD hdaudio: why do I have two audio devices and two mixers?
walt wrote: Fresh gentoo install on new lenovo desktop. Both linux and win7 (lenovo installed) tell me that this machine has two audio devices: 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series] Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3625 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel That's the HDMI output of your integrated GPU. All AMD graphics, including the APU you have, come with integrated HDMI Audio. 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3625 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel This is the one you have to use for laptop audio. I spent an entire frustrating day discovering that the reason I have no sound is that every app wants to use /dev/mixer when only /dev/mixer1 actually works :( Only some apps (like audacious) will let me choose which mixer to use, and those apps work perfectly. Anyone else seen this before, I hope? Got a fix? I think you have to make the second one the default audio device. Possibly by editing the alsa.conf files found in /etc/modprobe.d and /usr/share/alsa. This thread may help : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/gentoo-87/set-default-sound- card-796566/ HTH
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 16.11.2011 19:05, schrieb masterprometheus: Oh I would definitly do that (overclock it I mean). But if there isn't someone with the same name, you've said : I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock ... Change of heart ? Understandable as these CPUs are easy to overclock. Yes, I know. I meant before: I don't want to overclock if it's risky and unstable ... :-) There is always a slight risk. But with a good HSF you will be ok. If you don't need the hyperthreading just get the 2500K and a good HSF. You can easily run it @4.5GHz 7/24 and safely. phew, that sounds fast, yes I assume the HT will do something to compiling stuff (read: gentoo-emerging everyday)? Yep. So Intel noticed wow, we get a few of them which run stable even at 100MHz more, let's sell them for some more money ;-) True but Intel's MSRP was just $10-15 more than a 2600K. Vendors decided to up the price a bit. Not uncommon with new products. I'd be ready to just spend a little more and get the faster CPU as I change my work-pcs only every few years. I still use a C2D E6600 for everyday purposes ... but maybe I just go for the 2600k, it will be more than enough to make things fly in comparison. Then a 2600K is a good investment for you. But maybe you should wait for the Ivy Bridge CPUs (probably @March). Or maybe : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492 (note that no stock cooler included g) With a matching mobo like one of these : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131803 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801 Seriously too much money for a small performance difference. But 6 cores (with HT of course), 4 channel memory architecture (up to 64 GB), support for PCI-e v3.0, 12MB L3 cache, all those sound good. No integrated video, though.
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Another hardware thread
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock No, if you're not going to overclock the K version is not needed. Did you also consider the newer i7-2700k? Maybe too expensive because it's so new. And I assume it's not that much faster. Although I only assume that, I have to research it ... The 2700K is nothing different than the 2600K. The only plus is a 100 MHz frequency boost. Not worth the extra $70 over a 2600/2600K.
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 2011-11-16 16:22, schrieb masterprometheus: Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock No, if you're not going to overclock the K version is not needed. But as far as I read reviews online it is easy and rather safe to do so w/ the matching motherboard. So why not ... go for it. Oh I would definitly do that (overclock it I mean). But if there isn't someone with the same name, you've said : I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to overclock ... Change of heart ? Understandable as these CPUs are easy to overclock. If you don't need the hyperthreading just get the 2500K and a good HSF. You can easily run it @4.5GHz 7/24 and safely. Did you also consider the newer i7-2700k? Maybe too expensive because it's so new. And I assume it's not that much faster. Although I only assume that, I have to research it ... The 2700K is nothing different than the 2600K. The only plus is a 100 MHz frequency boost. Not worth the extra $70 over a 2600/2600K. Yep. So Intel noticed wow, we get a few of them which run stable even at 100MHz more, let's sell them for some more money ;-) True but Intel's MSRP was just $10-15 more than a 2600K. Vendors decided to up the price a bit. Not uncommon with new products.
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Another hardware thread
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:00:15 +0200, masterprometheus wrote: For AMD I'd recommend to go for a 960T : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995 It's a 95W and as a Zosma it's actually a 6-core. Most of those (not all unfortunately) can be unlocked to a 6-core. Has Turbo functionality. That sounds like a poor gamble. A 3.0GHz CPu that I may be able to unlock to 6 cores for £20 less than a genuine 6 cores 3.2GHz 1090T. I either get slightly less for slightly less, or a lot less for slightly less :( Well when I checked the 960T was $125 at Newegg and 1090T was $170. That's a $45 difference. With $30 of this you can get a good cooler like this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 Then overclock and beat the 1090T easily in most tasks (even with 4 cores). But if you're not in a budget get the best you can. An Intel core i7 2600K is a great choice if you can afford it. Already fast, easily overclockable and hyperthreading will help with media encoding etc.
[gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread
Neil Bothwick wrote: It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use AMD before that, so I have no real allegiances. I was thinking of something like an AMD 1100T 6 core CPU, the new Bulldozers are expensive and initial reports are not that promising, but an Intel that gives the same bang per buck would do. For AMD I'd recommend to go for a 960T : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995 It's a 95W and as a Zosma it's actually a 6-core. Most of those (not all unfortunately) can be unlocked to a 6-core. Has Turbo functionality. For Intel a 2500K is the way to go but maybe you should wait for Ivy Bridge. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 I'm thinking Gigabyte for motherboard, based on comments made here in similar threads (like the one Dale started a while ago). Go for ASUS or Gigabyte. For AMD make sure you pick one that is compatible with the Bulldozer Architecture. For example : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128509 Those are UEFI boards which will help with larger AF drives. For Intel go with Z68 boards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128507 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157264 I need lots of SATA ports (fortunately, I bought a pair of 2TB drives a fortnight ago, just before the prices went ballistic). Above boards have lots of SATA ports. I'm not a gamer, but I want a system with plenty of grunt. Video performance is not critical, on board would suffice, except I need something with dual output to drive two monitors. Do any of the onboard jobbies do this or is a separate Nvidia still the best option? Dual output what ? DSUB, DVI ? A fanless card : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102933 Something more powerful : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150543
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro
Dale wrote: Hi, This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux on my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig with a slow CPU and not a lot of ram either. So, what is a easy to install distro that has KDE4, Seamonkey, gtkam, GIMP and such? I want something easy because I want to install and leave it be until he can get a new rig built. Then I'll be installing Gentoo for a more permanent install. I looked at Kubuntu, Ubuntu and tried to install Mandriva. Mandriva got to a point and just froze up on me. I tried three times and it did the same thing each time so no clue what is going on there. Ideas? You can try Mepis and Pardus : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mepis http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=pardus Download pages http://www.mepis.org/get-mepis http://www.pardus.org.tr/en/pardus/indir/
[gentoo-user] Re:Re: Problem with sound card
Lavender wrote: Er, if you have one sound card and one audio controller, then doesn't that make two sound cards? :-/ (One actual sound card (PCI or PCIe) and one integrated into the mainboard?) Ha, I'm not comprehend with hardware . You have two sound cards. One is the onboard sound card, the other is the HDMI audio that ATI graphics provides. You didn't install it then. It's in the media-sound/alsa-utils package. Also, if you want to know which sound drivers you need, look up the specs of your mainboard (or post your mainboard's brand and model here.) OK , here is my mainborad information: Brand and model : HP 3644 Chip Set: AMD 760G/780G/780V/785G/790GX/880G/890GX SN: CND9501XTP Er, can't I ask why you need this information? If the driver I built is not enough ? You have to have the the correct drivers and alsa-utils emerge. Good luck
[gentoo-user] Re: Motherboard support?
Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: I'll be soon getting a new desktop. I've fixed the CPU as AMD Phenom II 1075T These two motherboards came to my notice which support the above processor: Gigabyte 880GM - GA 880GM-USB3L 880GM-USB3 How good is Linux support with those? If bad, what other mobos support 1075T and Linux support is awesome? Neither 880G nor SB710 is a new chipset, so they should work out of the box. But you may want to wait. Bulldozers will be out at October 12, and their prices won't very different than Phenom II's. And FX-8120, expected to be priced around $200 will be an 8-core, faster and better overclocker.
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Grant wrote: My motherboard is getting flaky and it's time for a new one. I have an AMD 6000+ CPU, 4GB DDR2/800 RAM, 2TB SATA2 HD, Blu-Ray burner, PCI wireless card, 400W power supply, and ATX case. I could replace any of these components if it's worthwhile for some new feature, but I may as well keep them if it's not. You'll probably keep the HDD, Blu-Ray drive and the wireless card for the new system. It's better to replace your PSU. For example : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371046 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182202 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 They'll all do the job, different brands, models and prices. If you're not going to sell the old CPU and memory modules you can buy a mobo and keep it as a backup PC : http://cgi.ebay.com/Asus-M2N68-AM-PLUS-Socket-AM2-GeForce7025-DDR2-A-V- Lan-/310329745884?pt=Motherboardshash=item48411821dc You'll need a new chassis if you decide to keep these old parts. The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? Plenty to choose. HDMI is nearly in every motherboard with onboard video. There are many ways to go, I picked the AM3+ way and with some excessive spending for the motherboard : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514 Not economical but I like the look and the quality of this one. For the CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103903 A cheap option, but should be enough and instead of paying big bucks for 6-cores etc, wait for the bulldozer. For memory : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308 8 GB should be good for a long time. With this board you'll need a discrete video card. This one should do the job : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161374 Fanless, so some ventilation is needed. I went full AMD. Good luck.
[gentoo-user] Re: Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: ?baselayout?suffer,??? huh? Google Translate : **Personal experience, baselayout how updates are in fact not suffer, Oh~ ** Xiangru Chen's translation is a bit better, I must admit.
[gentoo-user] Re: videos that won't go away.
Dale wrote: Hi folks, I noticed something weird but I'm not sure what to even search for to get a fix. When I play a video with Seamonkey or Firefox, then close the tab or close the browser, the video is still there. If the video contains text, it is really noticeable. It's like a freeze frame of what ever was there when I closed the tab or browser. It does this in both Seamonkey and Firefox. The video affects my desktop wallpaper or background, Konsole, Kpatience, and any other program I have open. It is weird. Some programs like Konsole, which is running as root, just sort of distort in some weird way. The only way to correct this weirdness is to log out of KDE and back in. That returns everything back to normal. Closing the app I was using to play the video does not work. If I use Firefox and download helper to capture the video and save it, I can play the video with Smplayer with no ill effects. It plays and closes just fine. It's just when I use Seamonkey or Firefox that this happens. I have upgraded the kernel and had upgrades to both Seamonkey and Firefox. I have recompiled the nvidia drivers as well. The nvidia drivers, kernel and other info is here: root@fireball / # equery list seamonkey [ Searching for package 'seamonkey' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] www-client/seamonkey-2.0.14 (0) root@fireball / # equery list firefox [ Searching for package 'firefox' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] www-client/firefox-3.6.17 (0) root@fireball / # equery list nvidia [ Searching for package 'nvidia' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] media-video/nvidia-settings-260.19.29 (0) [I--] [ ~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-260.19.44 (0) root@fireball / # equery list xorg [ Searching for package 'xorg' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.9 (0) [I--] [ ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.5 (0) root@fireball / # uname -r 2.6.38-gentoo-r3 root@fireball / # I have not tried a emerge -e world yet. I may do that when KDE 4.6.3 is released. Does anyone have any clue as to what could cause this? If you need more info, let me know. Thanks. Dale If you're using official drivers for your video cards Flash Hardware acceleration is activated. But it doesn't work well in Linux. Right click on a flash video, click on setting, and then the display tab. Disable hardware acceleration. That generally fixes the problem you describe. Good luck.
[gentoo-user] Re: Which motherboard ?
Jacques Montier wrote: Hi all, I have some questions about hardware choice. Do you think those two motherboards are working on Linux with i5 760 or i7 920 processor ? - GA P55 US3L GIGABYTE - Asus P6X58D-E The Asus one with an i7. Both the X58 chipset and i7 CPUs are fairly aged products and should be well supported by the recent linux kernels.
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: CPU socket and picking a heat sink.
Dale wrote: masterprometheus wrote: Dale wrote: Your motherboard includes a serial port header. The only thing you need is a port like this one : http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=3543sku=09480# Thanks for the link. If the mobo does have that when it gets here, I'll be ordering that. Your mobo has that connector. You can see it in newegg's pictures. Which coolermaster you picked ? Good luck. I picked this monster: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1689160 I got it in already and it is nice, especially compared to my old case. It's a great one. Would be my choice too if I had to buy a new chassis. The price is more than you paid for your CPU and you're saying you don't have money for a better mobo :) ? Actually paying for a good computer case is a great idea, you won't regret. BTW something I forgot to mention is that the other expensive gigabyte mobo has a dedicated memory (128 MB DDR3) for its integrated graphics (called sideport memory by AMD). Not a big deal but it's a nice feature. Last, I hope you have a good PSU, don't use a crappy one. If you need help picking one, don't hesitate to ask.
[gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$
Dale wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153116 Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V Power supply. I like this brand and would like to stay with this but if the price is right, I could be tempted to change my mind. My biggest question on this, can this handle this mobo, CPU, video card and 3 to 4 drives including a DVD burner? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103644 I saw that you already bought it. It's a below average product. Should still work fine for this system. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207007 All of these are superior products with great prices. If one can get the rebate the last one is a steal. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118056 ZALMAN CNPS10X FLEX CPU Cooler. This thing got good reviews and it is not priced to high. According to the searches I have done this will fit the mobo/CPU and should fit in the case. Any disagreements on this? Zalman's cooler is a good one but the one I listed in a prior thread is cheaper. Performance is similar. This one of course doesn't need a fan and will be silent. Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory. According to newegg this fits the mobo. Agree? Yes a good one. If you don't need the fastest you can get a cheaper kit : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144478 However no objection to Crucial. I only plan to build one or the other not both. I would like to make sure everything should fit fine but I would also like to get a opinion. I would like a opinion on whether build #2 would be better in the long run? It appears to be a bit faster although the price is not much different. Build #1 is $611.92. Build #2 is $637.92. That doesn't include shipping but a lot of the items have free shipping anyway. Basically, I need this to last me several years since I can't afford to rebuild every few years. Also, one reason for the HUGE CPU cooler, I run folding in the winter. Helps heat the place up a bit. lol My current rig with a Volcano 12 runs at about 90F at full load. I would like to run pretty close to that since it just makes the CPU last longer. I'm open to ideas, discussion, problems and opinions. I mostly want to make sure each build will work and which I should build. Thanks for your time and replies. If you need more info, let me know. The rest is good to great but that PSU is
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: CPU socket and picking a heat sink.
Dale wrote: Thanks for confirming that the coolers will fit. I did some googling but it just wasn't making sense to me yet. I found a site later on that said most coolers used different adapters to work with different sockets if needed. That helped me figure out some of it. Picking another mobo was a good idea. I actually ended up picking this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675 This is a retail product, it will come with a cooling device. If you're not going to overclock it will be sufficient and you won't need to pay for an HSF. However, some third party coolers produce much less noise if that's a consideration. That is a GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 which is a bit better. A good board and choice. I'll have to figure out a way to get my UPS, which uses a serial port, to work but I *think* I still have a serial to USB adapter around here somewhere. I'm going to have to cross that bridge one of these days. Your motherboard includes a serial port header. The only thing you need is a port like this one : http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=3543sku=09480# This mobo is not as new as the Gigabyte you linked to but the one I posted above is in my budget. I actually blew my budget and may end up spending a little more than planed. I forgot the the new way for drives is to use SATA instead of IDE. I had to add a DVD burner that was SATA This board supports up to 2 PATA devices. I guess you already had some PATA devices. and also had to get some Artic Silver since I can't find my other tube from years ago. I'll take the opportunity to say this again. The new Cooler Master case is HUGE. lol Which coolermaster you picked ? Good luck.
[gentoo-user] Re: CPU socket and picking a heat sink.
Dale wrote: Hi, Doing some research on building me a new rig. I have ran into sort of a hick up. The socket types are confusing me here. This is the mobo that I *might* be getting. http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspecmaincat_no=1cat2_no=171cat3_no=prod_no=1856 If that link don't work, it is a MSI 790XT-G45 mobo. I do most of my shopping on newegg and was looking for a CPU heat sink to go on that bad boy. The MSI website says AM2+. When I start to looking on newegg, there are several sockets that have AM2+ in it. My question is, which is which or will any of them fit? The CPU I am looking at is a AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz and it says it is a AM2+ as well. I assume that will fit the mobo? ;-) It doesn't come with a cooler tho. I may end up picking something else for the mobo and CPU but I do want to figure out what the differences are between these socket types and what fits what. Explanations are good and links are good too. Pictures may even be better. lol Yes all HSF for AM2/AM2+/AM3 should work with your CPU. A good one (price/performance) would be this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 But may I suggest that you buy another mobo. It's not that cheap and lack some features : 1. It utilizes DDR2. I think you want this to get that OEM AMD CPU but it's not worth in my opinion. DDR2 modules are generally more expensive than DDR3 ones and will be more so in future. 2. No USB 3 ports. May not be that important but it's available already in most motherboards. 3. No SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. No big deal in general but might become important if you buy a high performance solid state disk. 4. No e-sata port. A few options for you : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157197 (no 6Gb/s and only 1 USB 3 port but very inexpensive) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660 (no 6Gb/s, no e-sata, VIA audio codec, but 2 usb 3 ports) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157192 (VIA audio codec, only 1 USB 3 port, up to 2 firewire port, 1 e-sata 6Gb/s, all the features, good price) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130269 (everything right and better components, a little expensive of course) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435 (great layout, high quality components, lacks e-sata though, but lots of expansion slots, expensive of course but a great one) Good luck
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ATX PS recommendation
maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, I bought a Coolmax PS which was touted as the latest and greatest and then it died. When I opened it up I found the output crowded with puffy, oozing electrolytic caps, most made by Fuhjyyu. A search for Fuhjyyu on Google revealed that I'm not alone. Can somebody recommend a *reliable*, up-to-date PS, =400W with a 120mm fan? Maxim That one is a good choice if you really need 400+W PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003 Note : This is my first post to this list. If anything wrong please inform me (character encoding , fonts, line length) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
