Re: [gentoo-user] fonts mostly inaccessable to xterm

2017-03-05 Thread Corbin Bird
On 03/05/2017 06:41 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Setup: VBox vm running gentoo(amd64) guest on a win-10 (64bit) host
>  Hardware: HP xw8600 - 2x Xeon  CPU X5450 @ 3.00GHz - 32 GB ram
> 
> I've been trying to get fonts to load into xterm most of the day.
> 
> I'm not getting anywhere.
> 
> for example:
> /usr/share/fonts shows all these:
> 
> 100dpi  corefonts  encodingsinconsolata-hellenic  misc   util
> 75dpi   cyrillic   inconsolata  liberation-fonts  urw-fonts
> 
> Probably going at this ass backwards but it seems just about none of
> thes are accessabel to an xterm
> 
> xlsfonts shows many `misc fixed' fonts that can be loaded into xterm.
> 
> But I have not found how to load any of the others.
> 
> For example: fc-list shows a whole different list of fonts.
> I tried several and none of those were loadable into xterm.
> 
> Trying by there names inside the directories above I have found none
> are recognized by xterm
> 
> Looking at the fonts.dir files .. at least most of those names look
> familiar in the format I'm used to such as this:
> 
>-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
> That one is found with xlsfonts.
> 
> Something like this from inconsolata fonts.dir file:
> 
>-misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
> 
>   xterm -fn -misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
> xterm: cannot load font 
> '-misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1'
> xterm: cannot load font 
> '-misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1'
> 
> trying the other kind of names there:
> 
>xterm -fn Inconsolata-Regular.ttf
>  xterm: cannot load font 'Inconsolata-Regular.ttf'
>  xterm: cannot load font 'Inconsolata-Regular.ttf'
> 
> Leave it at that for the moment...
> 
> googling for hours on this I find xterm can understand a different
> switch  `xterm -fa bla-bla'
> 
> However, xterm as installed from portage does not understand that
> switch at all.
> 
> Some of the googling mentioned that xterm has to have that ability
> compiled in, so I wondered if our xterm is compiled for that option?
> 
> And further if anyone knows what that compile option might be?
> 
> Can anyone offer some guidance here...
> 
> How to get a few of those fonts to be loadable into an xterm?
> 
> 

Please clarify ...
... if this is a console only boot ( in vm ),
... if this is a GUI Desktop ( in vm ),
and/or specific xterm ( i.e "x11-terms/xterm" ).

Corbin



[gentoo-user] fonts mostly inaccessable to xterm

2017-03-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup: VBox vm running gentoo(amd64) guest on a win-10 (64bit) host
 Hardware: HP xw8600 - 2x Xeon  CPU X5450 @ 3.00GHz - 32 GB ram

I've been trying to get fonts to load into xterm most of the day.

I'm not getting anywhere.

for example:
/usr/share/fonts shows all these:

100dpi  corefonts  encodingsinconsolata-hellenic  misc   util
75dpi   cyrillic   inconsolata  liberation-fonts  urw-fonts

Probably going at this ass backwards but it seems just about none of
thes are accessabel to an xterm

xlsfonts shows many `misc fixed' fonts that can be loaded into xterm.

But I have not found how to load any of the others.

For example: fc-list shows a whole different list of fonts.
I tried several and none of those were loadable into xterm.

Trying by there names inside the directories above I have found none
are recognized by xterm

Looking at the fonts.dir files .. at least most of those names look
familiar in the format I'm used to such as this:

   -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
That one is found with xlsfonts.

Something like this from inconsolata fonts.dir file:

   -misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

  xterm -fn -misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
xterm: cannot load font 
'-misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1'
xterm: cannot load font 
'-misc-inconsolata-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1'

trying the other kind of names there:

   xterm -fn Inconsolata-Regular.ttf
 xterm: cannot load font 'Inconsolata-Regular.ttf'
 xterm: cannot load font 'Inconsolata-Regular.ttf'

Leave it at that for the moment...

googling for hours on this I find xterm can understand a different
switch  `xterm -fa bla-bla'

However, xterm as installed from portage does not understand that
switch at all.

Some of the googling mentioned that xterm has to have that ability
compiled in, so I wondered if our xterm is compiled for that option?

And further if anyone knows what that compile option might be?

Can anyone offer some guidance here...

How to get a few of those fonts to be loadable into an xterm?




Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:23:53PM +0200, David Haller wrote

 emerge terminus-font
 
 might help. E.g.: setfont ter-132n. But that seems to need a
 framebuffer, but you seem to have that ;)
 I like default8x16 better though. At least at vga=normal which gives
 me a nice 80x25 terminal ;)

  I now have 80x25 consolemode on the notebook.  Thanks for that info.
My next goal is 80x40 etc.

 * Plan B) is there free software around that can modify/tweak the
   regular fonts to double their width?
 
 emerge psftools
 man -k psf

  Not really what I was looking for.  It simply converts between
different machine formats.  I went to the project homepage at
http://www.seasip.info/Unix/PSF/ looking for more info.  I noticed a
pointer to the PSF file format at...
http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/font-formats-1.html   I'll take a
crack at writing a consolefont magnify utility.  What I want to do is
magnify lat1-08, lat1-10, lat1-12, lat1-14, and lat1-16 vertically and
horizontally.  The simplest approach will be to magnify by a factor of
2 or 3.  Since the fonts were originally for a 640 pixel-wide screen,
that would would work on my notebook (640 * 2 = 1280) and on my 24
desktop monitor (640 * 3 = 1920).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 02:22:21 Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:23:53PM +0200, David Haller wrote
 
  emerge terminus-font
  
  might help. E.g.: setfont ter-132n. But that seems to need a
  framebuffer, but you seem to have that ;)
  I like default8x16 better though. At least at vga=normal which gives
  me a nice 80x25 terminal ;)
 
   I now have 80x25 consolemode on the notebook.  Thanks for that info.
 My next goal is 80x40 etc.

My screen is 27 and 1920 x 1080, so I can't imagine what vga=normal would 
look like  :-)  Too big, anyway.

I've set consolefont=ter-124n to give me a lovely VT screen. It does have a 
diagonal bar through the zero, though, as without it the zero and capital-O 
would be identical. At least at 12 x 24 I don't confuse 0 and 8.

Still hoping to find a font editor though, to replace that zero.

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-21 Thread Benjamin Lee
On Sat, 17 May 2014 02:17:17 -0500, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm just curious.  Just reply and let me know what you use.  I think I
 need to change mine to something better. 

For monospace, Source Code Pro [1] (media-fonts/source-pro).

For proportional, I prefer Helvetica (non-free) but among free options
Liberation Sans (media-fonts/liberation-fonts).

[1] http://blog.typekit.com/2012/09/24/source-code-pro/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:28:58 I wrote:

 Still hoping to find a font editor though, to replace that zero.

Found one: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nafe/postdownload?source=dlp

I've used it to remove the oblique stroke from the zero character and slope 
its shoulders. The result's not very polished, but it'll do pro tem.

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-19 Thread David Haller
Hello,

On Sat, 17 May 2014, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 01:21:08PM +0200, David Haller wrote
 The Linux text-console font is also very good.

  I used to do email and various other stuff on a VGA2 screen (640x480).
There are 5 lat1 consolefonts...

/usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-08.psfu.gz
[..]
/usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-16.psfu.gz
[..]
  Then video drivers came along that insisted on taking over text mode,
and running at native framebuffer resolution.  I have a 1280x800
notebook that would be perfectly legible with the screen kicked into
640x480 mode, and lat1-12 font selected.  Unfortunately, the Intel
driver takes over and 1280x800 pixels text mode is barely legible 160
columns x 50 rows.  On some machines, it was possible to override things
and force 640x480 mode in consolemode at bootup.  Unfortunately, that
forcing would also stick in X, where you do not want 640x480 pixels!!!

Hm. I've no idea about the intel-drivers, but nvidia plays nice with
nomodeset or rather, I just use vga=normal on the kernel
commandline. I do not have any graphics driver in the initrd, the
nvidia module is loaded only as X gets started.

Maybe that is the problem I have with newer driver versions (I use
295.49, any newer I tested just gives me a blank screen). I should
try using nvidiafb again.

  The consolefont program can select any available font.  Question...
* Plan A) can I get 16-pixel wide lat1 consolefonts from somewhere?

emerge terminus-font

might help. E.g.: setfont ter-132n. But that seems to need a
framebuffer, but you seem to have that ;)
I like default8x16 better though. At least at vga=normal which gives
me a nice 80x25 terminal ;)

* Plan B) is there free software around that can modify/tweak the
  regular fonts to double their width?

emerge psftools
man -k psf

HTH,
-dnh

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-19 Thread David Haller
Hello,

On Sun, 18 May 2014, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 May 2014 13:21:08 David Haller wrote:
 The Linux text-console font is also very good.
Yes, except for one thing: the oblique stroke through the zero. That makes it 
almost indistinguishable from an 8, to my poor eyes (one acute myopia, the 
other even more acute astigmatism together with moderate myopia, and now both 
being destroyed slowly by glaucoma).

Some time ago I tried to find out where the VC font is defined, with
a view to removing that oblique bar, but I ran out of steam before
finding it. If anyone can shed any light on this I'd be grateful.

/usr/src/linux/drivers/video/console/font_*.c

e.g.: font_10x18.c

/* 48 0x30 '0' */
0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */
0x0e, 0x00, /* 111000 */
0x1f, 0x00, /* 000100 */
0x23, 0x00, /* 0010001100 */
0x61, 0x80, /* 011110 */
0x63, 0x80, /* 011000@110 */
0x65, 0x80, /* 01100@0110 */
0x65, 0x80, /* 01100@0110 */
0x69, 0x80, /* 0110@00110 */
0x69, 0x80, /* 0110@00110 */
0x71, 0x80, /* 011@000110 */
0x61, 0x00, /* 011100 */
0x31, 0x00, /* 0011000100 */
0x3e, 0x00, /* 001000 */
0x1c, 0x00, /* 000111 */
0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */
0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */
0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */

There you have your diagonal (I marked i with @ instead of 1).

Or it's the default8x16.psf[u][.gz] in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts.

So, depending on which console-font you've chosen, edit the char of
the respective font and make a patch out of it (diff), so that you can
easily apply it to new kernels. Maybe make an overlay out of it ;)

I think, the kernel-builtin fonts are used until framebuffer and kbd
are loaded.

HTH,
-dnh

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 02:58:26PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Saturday 17 May 2014 02:17:17 Dale wrote:
  Howdy,
  
  I'm curious.  I'm sure there are some older folks on here that have eyes
  that are not in the best of shape.  Mine are not real good even with
  glasses.  My question is, what font is the easiest to read for folks
  with bad eyes?  In other words, for you folks who can't see good, what
  font do you use?
  […]
 So far I've found these to be acceptable:
 
   Liberation Sans
   Bitstream Vera Sans
   Clockopia
   DejaVu Sans
 […]
   Verdana

For the record: DejaVu is practically the same as Bitstream Vera, but
with a much wider range of supported characters.
I suppose one of the reasons for their wide-spread use is (apart from
them being free) their high readability. Sans and serif are very similar
to another and do look nice.

 That last one, I believe, was designed by M$ for use in web pages.
 
 I'll spend some time with each of them and find which I like best. You'll 
 notice that they're all sans-serif. That's because I believe serif fonts need 
 a higher pixel density than most screens have, and that's why they work well 
 when printed on paper but not here.

Serifs help the eye at staying on the line while perusing. We as Linux
users have the big advantage of the great font rendering engine (that
actually brought me to Linux in the first place many moons ago) which
can render such details beautifully, so we would notice them, but
without them distracting, even *if* they are a bit pixelated. (I switch
off the RGB subpixels rendering though because I don’t like the apparent
colour bleed.)
Serif fonts are designed to be used in longer texts. Thus they are a
suboptimal choice for UI elements, because those are usually rather
short.

Using hinting at full level might actually be a not-so-good idea,
because while it makes smaller fonts really crisp (filled pixel or no
filled pixel), it may lessen readability because
1) lines thickness can only vary by full pixels, making lines thinner
   than they actually are, especially on low-DPI screens.
2) the inter-letter spacing must be quantified in full pixels also.

So using half strength hinting might make the font look fuzzier on first
sight, but will improve reading flow because spacings are more even and
details can be perceived without poking out. And if you look from
farther away, it will look more natural.
The MS fonts have very detailed hinting information because they were
designed for screen use. That’s why they still look quite good with full
hinting on.


Another big advantage that we as Linuxlers have is that most GUIs will
scale nicely if we crank up the font size, as opposed to some commercial
OS I could mention. So Dale, since you are on KDE, use the freedom it
gives you (unlike some other DEs *cough*) and just crank up the sizes. ;)

Twiddling with DPI settings OTOH may be counterproductive. If you visit
a website that says: font-size: 10pt, then the font will look the same
on *all* screens if their DPI is set to the actual value. If the DPI is
set to the same value for all, but they have *physically* different
pixel pitches, then the font will look different on each screen.


I’m not an old fart[TM] yet, so I can afford running a tiny terminus on
this 136 DPI laptop. ^^ However, when working in vim, I do use a colour
scheme similar to what wabenau describes in his mail: dark (but not
black) background with light (but not bright) text colours. For the
interested: that scheme is called Wombat:
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2465
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 19 May 2014 12:29:09 David Haller wrote:
 On Sun, 18 May 2014, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  Some time ago I tried to find out where the VC font is defined, with
  a view to removing that oblique bar, but I ran out of steam before
  finding it. If anyone can shed any light on this I'd be grateful.
 
 /usr/src/linux/drivers/video/console/font_*.c
 
 e.g.: font_10x18.c
 
 /* 48 0x30 '0' */
 0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */
 0x0e, 0x00, /* 111000 */
 0x1f, 0x00, /* 000100 */
 0x23, 0x00, /* 0010001100 */
 0x61, 0x80, /* 011110 */
 0x63, 0x80, /* 011000@110 */
 0x65, 0x80, /* 01100@0110 */
 0x65, 0x80, /* 01100@0110 */
 0x69, 0x80, /* 0110@00110 */
 0x69, 0x80, /* 0110@00110 */
 0x71, 0x80, /* 011@000110 */
 0x61, 0x00, /* 011100 */
 0x31, 0x00, /* 0011000100 */
 0x3e, 0x00, /* 001000 */
 0x1c, 0x00, /* 000111 */
 0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */
 0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */
 0x00, 0x00, /* 00 */
 
 There you have your diagonal (I marked i with @ instead of 1).

Magic! Let me know when you're next in the Peak District and the drinks will 
be on me!

 Or it's the default8x16.psf[u][.gz] in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts.
 
 So, depending on which console-font you've chosen, edit the char of
 the respective font and make a patch out of it (diff), so that you can
 easily apply it to new kernels. Maybe make an overlay out of it ;)
 
 I think, the kernel-builtin fonts are used until framebuffer and kbd
 are loaded.
 
 HTH,
 -dnh

-- 
Regards
Peter




[gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-17 Thread Dale
Howdy,

I'm curious.  I'm sure there are some older folks on here that have eyes
that are not in the best of shape.  Mine are not real good even with
glasses.  My question is, what font is the easiest to read for folks
with bad eyes?  In other words, for you folks who can't see good, what
font do you use? 

I'm just curious.  Just reply and let me know what you use.  I think I
need to change mine to something better. 

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-17 Thread Philip Webb
140517 Dale wrote:
 I'm sure there are some older folks on here that have eyes
 that are not in the best of shape. Mine are not real good even with glasses.
 What font is the easiest to read for folks with bad eyes?

New Century Schoolbook was designed for small children c 1910 :
my eyes are good enough with glasses, but its shapes are my favorite.
Perhaps it's what I learned to read with (I don't remember learning to read).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 17 May 2014 02:17:17 Dale wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 I'm curious.  I'm sure there are some older folks on here that have eyes
 that are not in the best of shape.  Mine are not real good even with
 glasses.  My question is, what font is the easiest to read for folks
 with bad eyes?  In other words, for you folks who can't see good, what
 font do you use?
 
 I'm just curious.  Just reply and let me know what you use.  I think I
 need to change mine to something better.

I'm glad you asked, Dale. I've been meaning to go a-searching fonts for some 
time and now you've prompted me into it.

So far I've found these to be acceptable:

Liberation Sans
Bitstream Vera Sans
Clockopia
DejaVu Sans
Droid Sans
Free Sans
Trebuchet MS
URW Gothic L
Verdana

That last one, I believe, was designed by M$ for use in web pages.

I'll spend some time with each of them and find which I like best. You'll 
notice that they're all sans-serif. That's because I believe serif fonts need 
a higher pixel density than most screens have, and that's why they work well 
when printed on paper but not here.

Hope that hasn't muddied the waters even more!

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-17 Thread David Haller
Hello,

On Sat, 17 May 2014, Dale wrote:
I'm curious.  I'm sure there are some older folks on here that have eyes
that are not in the best of shape.  Mine are not real good even with
glasses.  My question is, what font is the easiest to read for folks
with bad eyes?  In other words, for you folks who can't see good, what
font do you use? 

Even though I can see well with glasses on (I'm quite nearsighted,
R:-5.0dpt, L:-6.5dpt) and I'm not even 40 yet ... (Font-) Readbility
on- and off-screen is some sort of a hobby and of concern of mine.

On screen or on paper? On screen, I use misc-fixed (gnu-unifont?) and
Verdana almost exclusively except for Window-Titles and the WMaker
App-menu (where I use Helvetica i.e. apparently LiberationSans (I
thought it was the URW variant Nimbus Sans(?))) as it runs less wide.

Misc-fixed has wonderfully unambiguous letter shapes, Verdana is
pretty good in that respect too.

The Linux text-console font is also very good.

Adjust font-sizes to your ability (might get tedious), though
experimenting with the screen's DPI might be a shortcut. Be wary of
anti-aliasing and sub-pixel-hinting. Test both _after_ you've chosen a
good font without them, if they help, esp. when tweaking
non-screen-optimized layouts, activate them, if the do not, leave them
off.

Do NOT use normal serif-fonts for on-screen reading (like Times,
Garamond etc.). Nor normal sans-serif ones (like Arial). Use those
fonts optimized for the screen. If you need to set something in a
specific font for printing, use misc-fixed/verdana for the typing (and
use styles/formats in e.g. oowriter), and change the font as late as
possible for final layout tweaks only.

Oh, and _very_ importantly: get a _GOOD_ matt monitor if you haven't
yet. You don't need a glaring shaving mirror on your desk ;) Any
reflection, even a matt one, distracts and hurts the eye, and clear
reflections like from glaring panels like the Apple ones are esp.
exhausting.

I've had the chance to use three 17 TFT side-by-side in twos

a) an el-cheapo LG TN (yikes! I got headachey after ~30min)
b) an not-quite-cheapo Samsung Syncmaster TN (wlll, endurable for
   a few hours, lots better than the LG)
c) an about twice as expensive EIZO S1721 PVA. I use that without
   ever getting headachey for as much as 36h. current uptime is
   ~22h :)

Also: always adjust the brightness to ambient light! And adjust the
ambient light at night[1]!

And with non-matt panels, you may have to turn up the brightness way
too far to be comfortable, to still be able to see anything on screen.

I'm using that EIZO now since early Apr. 2010, and still 35%-40%
brightness suffices (as my window a bit right of the monitor is facing
north, but there's a light-yellow colored house with a bright white
picket fence, so depending, a _lot_ of light is reflected, so much so
that it is blinding even when I'm not at the PC. It's esp. bugging,
when there are quick changes on a, say, typical april day (mid-lats of
the northern Hemisphere), one minute, the (reflected) sun glares at
you, the next a dark cloud makes it seem like dusk. And no, the light
sensor sadly does not seem to work.

On paper, I very much prefer classic serif-fonts, esp. Garamond and I
like the TeX fonts (Computer Modern/Latin Modern) quite much.

-dnh

[1] usually, I have a lamp at the side, barely lighting the table,
but when I'm watching videos, I move the lamp lower, so it's only
lighting the floor/low wall and gives a low ambient light. Very
nice when watching darkish videos. Nicer than turning up the
monitor brightness (even if I turn that up to 45% or even a bit
more ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 17 May 2014 13:21:08 David Haller wrote:

 The Linux text-console font is also very good.

Yes, except for one thing: the oblique stroke through the zero. That makes it 
almost indistinguishable from an 8, to my poor eyes (one acute myopia, the 
other even more acute astigmatism together with moderate myopia, and now both 
being destroyed slowly by glaucoma).

Some time ago I tried to find out where the VC font is defined, with a view to 
removing that oblique bar, but I ran out of steam before finding it. If anyone 
can shed any light on this I'd be grateful.

Oh, and Dale, so far I've come to like the Bitstream Vera Sans at size 14 for 
KMail text.

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and bad eyes

2014-05-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 01:21:08PM +0200, David Haller wrote

 The Linux text-console font is also very good.

  I used to do email and various other stuff on a VGA2 screen (640x480).
There are 5 lat1 consolefonts...

/usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-08.psfu.gz
/usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-10.psfu.gz
/usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-12.psfu.gz
/usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-14.psfu.gz
/usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-16.psfu.gz

  They are all 8 pixels wide, giving 80 columns on a VGA screen.  At
640x400 consolemode, you got...

* lat1-08 (CGA-like) gave 80x50 (unreadable except on a large monitor)
* lat1-10 gave 80x40, which was nice
* lat1-12 gave 80x33
* lat1-14 (EGA-like) gave 80x28
* lat1-16 (VGA-like) gave 80x25

  At 640x480 consolemode...
* lat1-08 (CGA-like) gave 80x60 (unreadable except on a large monitor)
* lat1-10 gave 80x48, which is surprisingly much nicer than 80x50 above.
  Those 2 extra pixels made a world of difference
* lat1-12 gave 80x40
* lat1-14 (EGA-like) gave 80x34
* lat1-16 (VGA-like) gave 80x30

  Then video drivers came along that insisted on taking over text mode,
and running at native framebuffer resolution.  I have a 1280x800
notebook that would be perfectly legible with the screen kicked into
640x480 mode, and lat1-12 font selected.  Unfortunately, the Intel
driver takes over and 1280x800 pixels text mode is barely legible 160
columns x 50 rows.  On some machines, it was possible to override things
and force 640x480 mode in consolemode at bootup.  Unfortunately, that
forcing would also stick in X, where you do not want 640x480 pixels!!!

  The consolefont program can select any available font.  Question...
* Plan A) can I get 16-pixel wide lat1 consolefonts from somewhere?
* Plan B) is there free software around that can modify/tweak the
  regular fonts to double their width?

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[gentoo-user] Fonts (Ariel?) broken in acroread

2013-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
I don't know when exactly, but sometime in the past 6 months or so,
font support in acroread got broken.  Most of the PDF documents
generated by MS Office don't render correctly. I think the most common
font that doesn't render properly is Ariel. Acroread didn't used to
have any problems with these documents, and viewing them with out
applications seems to work OK.

What gets rendered for Ariel is a _very_ ugly, very light, sans serif
font where lower-case letters are about 1/3 the height of upper case
letters.  It's really horrid.  Here's comparison of some text rendered
by acroread (left) and emacs (right):

  http://www.panix.com/~grante/acroread-vs-emacs.png

Acroread _used_ to render this document correctly.

I've asked Google but all the hits are about asian font support.

Any ideas what I'm missing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] fonts in gitview

2012-01-22 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:34:22PM +0100, Jörg Schaible wrote:
 Hi,
 
 can anybody tell me, what font is used by gitview in the diff pane and how 
 to configure it? I did not use gitview for some time and cannot say, when 
 this started, but currently I get some kind of strange script font that is 
 hardly readable. I am normally working in a KDE4 environment.

I can't tell you about gitview, but since you're using KDE -- there is a nice
Qt-based git viewer called qgit.
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[gentoo-user] fonts in gitview

2012-01-19 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi,

can anybody tell me, what font is used by gitview in the diff pane and how 
to configure it? I did not use gitview for some time and cannot say, when 
this started, but currently I get some kind of strange script font that is 
hardly readable. I am normally working in a KDE4 environment.

Thanks,
Jörg




[gentoo-user] fonts for: gv, xpdf, flpsed

2012-01-04 Thread Joseph

What kind of font packages are following application use for their interface 
(GUI menus)
gv, xpdf, flpsed etc.

Ever since I switch to a new system, I'm having problem view the menu options 
in all these packages that deal with postscipt files.
Their menu fonts are small barley readable and ugly, some package don't 
even work correctly like flpsed.

So I'm thinking, I'm missing some fonts or they are not correctly pointing to 
the correct location.

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[gentoo-user] Fonts.

2011-11-26 Thread Stayvoid
Hi there!

I have some fonts which are not included in the repository.
How can I install them?

Cheers!



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts.

2011-11-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 November 2011 08:00, Stayvoid stayv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there!

 I have some fonts which are not included in the repository.
 How can I install them?

 Cheers!

Bad, works immediately: Put them in /usr/share/fonts

Good: I'm sure that there is a setting for per-user font dirs in ${HOME}

AMAZING: Copy the existing ebuilds in portage, edit them a bit for
your new fonts, then submit them to Sunrise, so that ALL Gentoo users
can use them!

Pick one :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts.

2011-11-26 Thread Stayvoid
 Bad, works immediately: Put them in /usr/share/fonts
That didn't work for me.

 Good: I'm sure that there is a setting for per-user font dirs in ${HOME}
Could you be more specific?



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts.

2011-11-26 Thread Urs Schutz
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:35:15 +0300
Stayvoid stayv...@gmail.com wrote:

  Bad, works immediately: Put them in /usr/share/fonts
 That didn't work for me.
 
  Good: I'm sure that there is a setting for per-user
  font dirs in ${HOME}
 Could you be more specific?
 

copy the fonts to ~/.fonts/, or make soft links there.

There is a fantastic application (outside portage) for font
management, its called fontmatrix.
The UI of fontmatrix version 0.6.0 is a lot better than
fontmatrix version 0.9.99, which I did not like.
If you use a lot of different fonts for your work,
fontmatrix 0.6.0 is one of the best font managers around.

Urs



[gentoo-user] Fonts installation.

2011-11-25 Thread Stayvoid
Hi there!

I have some fonts which are not included in the repository.
How can I install them?

Cheers!



[gentoo-user] Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread CJoeB
Hi all.

Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to
KDE and I can't figure out how to do it.  In my previous KDE install,
there used to be a menu item for adding fonts.  I *have* googled for
this, but haven't found anything relevant.  Can someone please help?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 June 2011 13:54:27 CJoeB wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to
 KDE and I can't figure out how to do it.  In my previous KDE install,
 there used to be a menu item for adding fonts.  I *have* googled for
 this, but haven't found anything relevant.  Can someone please help?
 
 Regards,
 
 Colleen


open the system center - or how it is called in english, scroll down and there 
is font installation (or managment or whatever that menu topic is called). 
Click on it and you are only two clicks from installing a font...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:54 on Saturday 04 June 2011, CJoeB did 
opine thusly:

 Hi all.
 
 Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to
 KDE and I can't figure out how to do it.  In my previous KDE install,
 there used to be a menu item for adding fonts.  I *have* googled for
 this, but haven't found anything relevant.  Can someone please help?

Many common fonts are available in ebuilds, so you could just emerge that.

Otherwise

System Settings - System Administration - Font Installer

to do it manually


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[gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Marco
Hi,

I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list:

~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv
Helvetica:style=Oblique
Helvetica:style=Bold
Helvetica:style=Regular
Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique

It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system.
Nevertheless, they don't show up in OpenOffice. Any tips on how to use
them in Oo?

Thanks!

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 Marco



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Marco schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list:
 
 ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv
 Helvetica:style=Oblique
 Helvetica:style=Bold
 Helvetica:style=Regular
 Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique
 
 It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system.
 Nevertheless, they don't show up in OpenOffice. Any tips on how to use
 them in Oo?
 

At least on my system, Helvetica is a bitmap font. OOo doesn't seem to
put these in its font list.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Marco
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Florian
Philippli...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote:
 Marco schrieb:
 Hi,

 I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list:

 ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv
 Helvetica:style=Oblique
 Helvetica:style=Bold
 Helvetica:style=Regular
 Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique

 It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system.
 Nevertheless, they don't show up in OpenOffice. Any tips on how to use
 them in Oo?


 At least on my system, Helvetica is a bitmap font. OOo doesn't seem to
 put these in its font list.

Hi,

how can i see if a font is a bitmap or a truetype?

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 Marco



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Marco schrieb:
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Florian
 Philippli...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote:
 Marco schrieb:
 Hi,

 I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list:

[...]

 It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system.
 Nevertheless, they don't show up in OpenOffice. Any tips on how to use
 them in Oo?

 At least on my system, Helvetica is a bitmap font. OOo doesn't seem to
 put these in its font list.
 
 Hi,
 
 how can i see if a font is a bitmap or a truetype?
 

Just look at it in a font viewer like media-gfx/gnome-specimen. A bitmap
font gets uglier when it gets bigger (e.g. you can identify single
pixels when they are scaled up).



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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
In 58965d8a0904151141u394849ckc7b241dddf686...@mail.gmail.com 
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com (Paul Hartman) writes:

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Konstantinos Agouros elw...@agouros.de 
wrote:
 Hi,

 I am having problems with some webpages in FireFox as well as Eclipse.
 Fonts are totally garbled. It looks like they were written with chalk
 and then somebody wiped over them. A redraw fixes is sometimes but
 then it gets garbled again. I am using nvidia-drivers 96.XX for legacy
 reasons.

Check this list's archives from a couple weeks ago for a thread called
Ugly fonts on some seb sites (sic), there were a couple of hints
posted by Nikos Chantziaras that really made my fonts look a lot
better in Firefox and friends. Maybe it will help you, too.
The upgrade to the 96.XX version from ~x86 resolved it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
In 20090416054846.ga9...@pacific.net.au zek...@gmail.com (Gregory Shearman) 
writes:

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
 In 20090415113152.ga11...@pacific.net.au zek...@gmail.com (Gregory 
 Shearman) writes:

I solved the problem by adding nvidia-drivers
(x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~x86) to /etc/portage/package.keywords. The
latest 96.XX driver was installed which was 96.43.11

You do need:

=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.00.00

in /etc/portage/package.mask so that the latest (~x86) 96.XX driver will be 
installed.

I'm not sure if it will work for you, but maybe it's work a try.
 Thanks for the tip. Do I need to rebuild anything but nvidia-drivers?

No, I just added the nvidia drivers line to
/etc/portage/package.keywords and emerged the nvidia-drivers. I hope it
works for you.
Yup it did. A great many thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Konstantinos Agouros wrote:

 Yup it did. A great many thanks!
   

Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
 use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
 anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
 curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
 currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.

The readme file in the driver archive (and on the unix download page
at ndivia's site) contains the list of supported GPUs and which driver
can operate them. The FX-5200 is listed as being supported by the
legacy driver 173.14.xx series.



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
 use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
 anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
 curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
 currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.
 

 The readme file in the driver archive (and on the unix download page
 at ndivia's site) contains the list of supported GPUs and which driver
 can operate them. The FX-5200 is listed as being supported by the
 legacy driver 173.14.xx series.


   

OK.  I looked on the site but couldn't find anything even close to my
FX-5200.  Maybe I was in the wrong place or something.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
 use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
 anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
 curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
 currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.


 The readme file in the driver archive (and on the unix download page
 at ndivia's site) contains the list of supported GPUs and which driver
 can operate them. The FX-5200 is listed as being supported by the
 legacy driver 173.14.xx series.




 OK.  I looked on the site but couldn't find anything even close to my
 FX-5200.  Maybe I was in the wrong place or something.

Here's the list section of the README file on the web:

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.44/README/appendix-a.html



[gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-15 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi,

I am having problems with some webpages in FireFox as well as Eclipse. 
Fonts are totally garbled. It looks like they were written with chalk
and then somebody wiped over them. A redraw fixes is sometimes but
then it gets garbled again. I am using nvidia-drivers 96.XX for legacy
reasons.

Anybody got a clue how to fix this? Do I need to change something in
xorg.conf?

Regards,

Konstantin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-15 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:

 Hi,

 I am having problems with some webpages in FireFox as well as Eclipse. 
 Fonts are totally garbled. It looks like they were written with chalk
 and then somebody wiped over them. A redraw fixes is sometimes but
 then it gets garbled again. I am using nvidia-drivers 96.XX for legacy
 reasons.

One of my machines runs a GeForce4 card and uses the legacy 96.XX
drivers.

 Anybody got a clue how to fix this? Do I need to change something in
 xorg.conf?

I had the same problems with font smudging in *all* programs and on the
kde desktop. It was almost impossible to even read the start menu.

I solved the problem by adding nvidia-drivers
(x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~x86) to /etc/portage/package.keywords. The
latest 96.XX driver was installed which was 96.43.11

You do need:

=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.00.00

in /etc/portage/package.mask so that the latest (~x86) 96.XX driver will be 
installed.

I'm not sure if it will work for you, but maybe it's work a try.

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Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-15 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
In 20090415113152.ga11...@pacific.net.au zek...@gmail.com (Gregory Shearman) 
writes:

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:

 Hi,

 I am having problems with some webpages in FireFox as well as Eclipse. 
 Fonts are totally garbled. It looks like they were written with chalk
 and then somebody wiped over them. A redraw fixes is sometimes but
 then it gets garbled again. I am using nvidia-drivers 96.XX for legacy
 reasons.

One of my machines runs a GeForce4 card and uses the legacy 96.XX
drivers.

 Anybody got a clue how to fix this? Do I need to change something in
 xorg.conf?

I had the same problems with font smudging in *all* programs and on the
kde desktop. It was almost impossible to even read the start menu.

I solved the problem by adding nvidia-drivers
(x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~x86) to /etc/portage/package.keywords. The
latest 96.XX driver was installed which was 96.43.11

You do need:

=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.00.00

in /etc/portage/package.mask so that the latest (~x86) 96.XX driver will be 
installed.

I'm not sure if it will work for you, but maybe it's work a try.
Thanks for the tip. Do I need to rebuild anything but nvidia-drivers?

Thanks,

Konstantin

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Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Konstantinos Agouros elw...@agouros.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I am having problems with some webpages in FireFox as well as Eclipse.
 Fonts are totally garbled. It looks like they were written with chalk
 and then somebody wiped over them. A redraw fixes is sometimes but
 then it gets garbled again. I am using nvidia-drivers 96.XX for legacy
 reasons.

Check this list's archives from a couple weeks ago for a thread called
Ugly fonts on some seb sites (sic), there were a couple of hints
posted by Nikos Chantziaras that really made my fonts look a lot
better in Firefox and friends. Maybe it will help you, too.



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-15 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
 In 20090415113152.ga11...@pacific.net.au zek...@gmail.com (Gregory 
 Shearman) writes:

I solved the problem by adding nvidia-drivers
(x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~x86) to /etc/portage/package.keywords. The
latest 96.XX driver was installed which was 96.43.11

You do need:

=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.00.00

in /etc/portage/package.mask so that the latest (~x86) 96.XX driver will be 
installed.

I'm not sure if it will work for you, but maybe it's work a try.
 Thanks for the tip. Do I need to rebuild anything but nvidia-drivers?

No, I just added the nvidia drivers line to
/etc/portage/package.keywords and emerged the nvidia-drivers. I hope it
works for you.

-- 
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power



[gentoo-user] fonts problem

2009-01-03 Thread Pat
Hello,

I'm trying to install new system based on amd64 and there are the font
problems during the installation.
1) the skype menus are blank
2) Eterm giving this error message:
Eterm:  Error:  Unable to load font
-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1.
Falling back on fixed
Eterm:  Error:  Unable to load font
-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1.  Falling
back on k14
Eterm:  FATAL:  Couldn't load the fallback font either.  Giving up.

Can someone help?

Thanks a lot

Pat

P.S. kernel 2.6.26-gentoo-r4, architecture amd64, X.org 7.4 (unmasked by
~amd64)



Re: [gentoo-user] fonts problem

2009-01-03 Thread Maciej Kazulak
Sure you installed all the necessary font packages? Also make sure X knows
about them, see /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

2009/1/3 Pat p...@xvalheru.org

 Hello,

 I'm trying to install new system based on amd64 and there are the font
 problems during the installation.
 1) the skype menus are blank
 2) Eterm giving this error message:
 Eterm:  Error:  Unable to load font
 -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1.
 Falling back on fixed
 Eterm:  Error:  Unable to load font
 -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1.  Falling
 back on k14
 Eterm:  FATAL:  Couldn't load the fallback font either.  Giving up.

 Can someone help?

 Thanks a lot

Pat

 P.S. kernel 2.6.26-gentoo-r4, architecture amd64, X.org 7.4 (unmasked by
 ~amd64)




Re: [gentoo-user] fonts [was: upgrading a large package, say Xorg]

2006-09-30 Thread David Relson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:43:49 -0700
Ryan Tandy wrote:

 David Relson wrote:
Since ATI's drivers are not 7.x
  compatible I'm not using them. 
 
 Yes, they are. 
 http://digg.com/linux_unix/ATI_Beats_nVidia_to_Xorg_7_1_Compatible_Drivers

Good news!  Following from there to ATI's site, I found that my
Radeon chipset is supported by driver 8.28.8 (last updated 8/18/06).

The last time I tried updating the ATI driver, I ended with a b0rked
X.org.  I managed to create a working xorg.conf which I shall save
before installing this driver.  As they say, once bitten, twice shy.

Regards,

David
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[gentoo-user] fonts [was: upgrading a large package, say Xorg]

2006-09-29 Thread David Relson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:57:43 +0200
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

 On Friday 29 September 2006 14:46, John Newman wrote:
 [SNIP]
  But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X.
  However, when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole
  list of Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of
  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything.
 
 Actually it says x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 or something like that (you
 obviously didn't bother to show us...). You are running
 xorg-x11-6.8.x.
 
  I was thinking that 
  emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an
  upgrade - that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new
  stuff as it went along.
 
 Nope.
 
  Is my only option to manually unmerge my current
  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (and I have hundreds of packages I've
  emerge'd that depend on it, naturally), then emerge
  x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I believe?).   Or is
  there a better way?
 
 I believe the upgrade guide should suffice [1]. And yes, it does tell
 you to unmerge the old xorg-x11. Just follow that guide and you
 should be fine...
 
 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml

Unmerging xorg-x11-6.9 and then emerging xorg-x11-7.0 does indeed
work!  The unmerge was down with bated breath :-  The emerge went well
and the system has been working well, though a problem has surfaced
that I think is related.

I've got an ATI Radeon card and was using ATI's official drivers which
are xorg-x11-6.x compatible.  Since ATI's drivers are not 7.x
compatible I'm not using them.  About the time of the change I noticed
that fonts weren't looking as good as I recalled them being and
suspect it's related.  Sigh ...

Any suggestions?

Regards,

David

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Re: [gentoo-user] fonts [was: upgrading a large package, say Xorg]

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Tandy

David Relson wrote:

  Since ATI's drivers are not 7.x
compatible I'm not using them. 


Yes, they are. 
http://digg.com/linux_unix/ATI_Beats_nVidia_to_Xorg_7_1_Compatible_Drivers

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?

2006-07-24 Thread louis brazeau

On 7/19/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 I got good looking fonts setting for my firefox (and most others
 X11-progs) when installing Gentoo initially.

 Now I updated X11 (Xorg) and especiall firefox got a very bad
 font-set.

 Since I dont know the initial font settings of the firefox
 application I would be lucky, if one could post her/his one to me, so
 that I could get an idea, what fonts to use best.

 Thanks a lot for your help in advance!

 Have a nice weekend,
 Meino


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Check that you have xdpyinfo on your system. Firefox uses that to
adjust fonts when it starts.

After upgrading to xorg-x11 7.0 I noticed that fonts in Firefox where
much ugliyer than they used to. I started it in a xterm and it
complained about a missing xdpyinfo. So, I emerged xdpyinfo and
re-started Firefox.

Voila, my fonts are back.

Hope it helps.

P.S.: If you haven't read it already, the HOWTO Xorg and Fonts
document is prety good.
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts

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[gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?

2006-07-19 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
Hi,

 I got good looking fonts setting for my firefox (and most others
 X11-progs) when installing Gentoo initially.

 Now I updated X11 (Xorg) and especiall firefox got a very bad
 font-set.

 Since I dont know the initial font settings of the firefox
 application I would be lucky, if one could post her/his one to me, so
 that I could get an idea, what fonts to use best.

 Thanks a lot for your help in advance!

 Have a nice weekend,
 Meino

   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?

2006-07-19 Thread Mark Knecht

On 7/19/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 I got good looking fonts setting for my firefox (and most others
 X11-progs) when installing Gentoo initially.

 Now I updated X11 (Xorg) and especiall firefox got a very bad
 font-set.

 Since I dont know the initial font settings of the firefox
 application I would be lucky, if one could post her/his one to me, so
 that I could get an idea, what fonts to use best.

 Thanks a lot for your help in advance!

 Have a nice weekend,
 Meino


Did you emerge the font set that was in the xorg-x11-7 upgrade HOWTO?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg

# emerge -DuNav font-adobe-100dpi font-adobe-75dpi font-adobe-utopia-100dpi \
font-adobe-utopia-75dpi font-bh-100dpi font-bh-75dpi font-bh-type1 \
font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi \
font-bitstream-100dpi font-bitstream-75dpi ttf-bitstream-vera \
corefonts sharefonts freefonts font-ibm-type1

Hope this helps,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?

2006-07-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Knecht wrote:
 Did you emerge the font set that was in the xorg-x11-7 upgrade HOWTO?
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg
 
 # emerge -DuNav font-adobe-100dpi font-adobe-75dpi
 font-adobe-utopia-100dpi \
 font-adobe-utopia-75dpi font-bh-100dpi font-bh-75dpi font-bh-type1 \
 font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi \
 font-bitstream-100dpi font-bitstream-75dpi ttf-bitstream-vera \
 corefonts sharefonts freefonts font-ibm-type1

In general that's kind of a silly font set. No new apps still use bitmap
fonts (-75dpi and -100dpi). Probably the only ones worth having there
are ttf-bitstream-vera and corefonts, maybe sharefonts/freefonts if
you'll settle for lower quality.

Thanks,
Donnie



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[gentoo-user] fonts after xorg-server and nvidia upgrade

2006-04-24 Thread Catalin Trifu
Hi,


After upgrading the nvidia drivers to version 1.0.8756 and
xorg-server to version 1.0.99.901-r1 X starts up but no fonts
are displayed on screen. Sometimes there is a short period I can
see the stuff on screen and then it disappears again.
Downgrading to xorg-server is a pain because of ABI dependencies.
I've tried reemerging the fonts, rebuilding the fonts directories
and nothing.
Things are working with the xorg nv driver, but not with the
nvidia binary drivers. I do need the nvidia drivers because
this is a laptop and I use my flat panel for daily use and I need
the TwinView from the nvidia drivers.


Thanks,
Catalin

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[gentoo-user] Fonts in Firefox-bin

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   In an regular email I get from Apple a number of characters show up
as little boxes that say 00 93 and 00 94. In the following quote
the quotes at 'launching' and the quote at the end are bad until I
paste it into GMail which seems to take care of it. The two quotes at
the beginning are fine.

In Hands-on with Aperture, David Schloss (pdnonline) offers a fairly
detailed overview of the application Apple expects to ship later this
month. Aperture, says Schloss, is launching out of the gate with more
features and functionality than anything else to date. With Aperture,
Apple has the ability to bring a whole new level of sophistication to
the post-production market place.

1) This is a font issue, right?

2) If so, how do I determine what Apple's HTML is looking for?

3) Generally, what fonts do folks load to get the best results on this stuff?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts in Firefox-bin

2005-11-11 Thread Michael Crute
On 11/11/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, In an regular email I get from Apple a number of characters show upas little boxes that say 00 93 and 00 94. In the following quotethe quotes at 'launching' and the quote at the end are bad until I
paste it into GMail which seems to take care of it. The two quotes atthe beginning are fine.In Hands-on with Aperture, David Schloss (pdnonline) offers a fairlydetailed overview of the application Apple expects to ship later this
month. Aperture, says Schloss, is launching out of the gate with morefeatures and functionality than anything else to date. With Aperture,Apple has the ability to bring a whole new level of sophistication to
the post-production market place.1) This is a font issue, right?2) If so, how do I determine what Apple's HTML is looking for?3) Generally, what fonts do folks load to get the best results on this stuff?
Thanks,MarkI ran into this same issue only for me it was with Asian characters. I re-compiled X with the cjk (multi-byte characters) use flag and everything works perfectly now. I would try that first (even though re-compiling X is a long painful process). 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts in Firefox-bin

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/11/05, Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/11/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 In an regular email I get from Apple a number of characters show up
  as little boxes that say 00 93 and 00 94. In the following quote
  the quotes at 'launching' and the quote at the end are bad until I
  paste it into GMail which seems to take care of it. The two quotes at
  the beginning are fine.
 
  In Hands-on with Aperture, David Schloss (pdnonline) offers a fairly
  detailed overview of the application Apple expects to ship later this
  month. Aperture, says Schloss, is launching out of the gate with more
  features and functionality than anything else to date. With Aperture,
  Apple has the ability to bring a whole new level of sophistication to
  the post-production market place.
 
  1) This is a font issue, right?
 
  2) If so, how do I determine what Apple's HTML is looking for?
 
  3) Generally, what fonts do folks load to get the best results on this
 stuff?
 
  Thanks,
  Mark
 

 I ran into this same issue only for me it was with Asian characters. I
 re-compiled X with the cjk (multi-byte characters) use flag and everything
 works perfectly now. I would try that first (even though re-compiling X is a
 long painful process).

 -Mike

Hi Mike,
   Tried it but no success. I'm still getting the little 2 character things.

   Here's how I did the xorg emerge. I wonder about the font server?
Did you emerge with that option?

lightning ~ # emerge -pv xorg-x11

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6  (-3dfx) (-3dnow)
+bitmap-fonts +cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
-insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal (-mmx) +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk
(-sse) -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #


Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts in Firefox-bin

2005-11-11 Thread Michael Crute
On 11/11/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I ran into this same issue only for me it was with Asian characters. I re-compiled X with the cjk (multi-byte characters) use flag and everything works perfectly now. I would try that first (even though re-compiling X is a
 long painful process). -MikeHi Mike, Tried it but no success. I'm still getting the little 2 character things. Here's how I did the xorg emerge. I wonder about the font server?
Did you emerge with that option?lightning ~ # emerge -pv xorg-x11These are the packages that I would merge, in order:Calculating dependencies ...done![ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
(-3dfx) (-3dnow)+bitmap-fonts +cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server-insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal (-mmx) +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk(-sse) -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB
Total size of downloads: 0 kBMy X install looks like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc $ emerge -pv xorg-x11

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4
-3dfx +3dnow +bitmap-fonts +cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
-insecure-drivers -ipv6 -minimal +mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk
+sse -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) +xprint +xv 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
I actually un-emerged the font server a while back and
haven't suffered any adverse effects. Can you send me a link or a copy
of this email (provided its not confidential or anything) to see if I
can duplicate what you are seeing?

-Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts in Firefox-bin

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/11/05, Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you send me a link or a copy of this email (provided
 its not confidential or anything) to see if I can duplicate what you are
 seeing?


  -Mike


Doing so off line.
 Thanks!

- Mark

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