Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error

2005-07-18 Thread Holly Bostick
Stuart Howard schreef:
 thx for the response 
 
 I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound
 works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am
 not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a
 hangover from my initial genkernel instalation.

Well, there is a compromise solution:

/etc/portage/profile/package.provided

I don't have a clue what I tried to install that wanted alsa-driver, but
I added

media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.6a (don't actually have to have a version,
afaik, you can just put the package name)

to the above-mentioned file, and it never bothered me again.

Basically, you're telling Portage that you've handled this-- the
package is installed,  just not *by* Portage, so it should just trust
you. And of course you have installed the package-- when you compiled
the kernel, so it's not even like you're lying or anything.

The upside of this should be that you can uninstall the alsa-driver
package (if it is installed), or do an emerge (-p) --depclean to get rid
of it, or remove it from your world file, and no program that depends on
it should be disturbed (because you've informed Portage that the
equivalent data is available, and Portage trusts you :-) )-- and no
package that wants to depend on it in the future should try to install it.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error

2005-07-18 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Oh, I see...

Well, since you have it builtin and everything is working, maybe its
dependent on other app, do you have alsa-utils or anything that could
pull alsa-drivers?

If you have an old installation and (like me) don't remember exactly
the steps for the initial configuration (I used alsa-driver, builtin,
then removed it lots of times, recompiled the kernel lots, test
purposes) then it can be a leftover from a previous config. Now, to
determine if you can or can't remove it its up to you, you can always
remove it and emerge it again if any problem appear. And if everything
fails, you can always remove it from the kernel and emerge alsa-driver
:)

On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thx for the response
 
 I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound
 works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am
 not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a
 hangover from my initial genkernel instalation.
 I would like to remove this package from my system simply because I
 think I dont need it, this being the bit I am not sure about.
 I am afraid that there are two things on linux that I have never got
 on well with, sound and optical drives. :)
 
 stu
 
 
 
 On 7/18/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In order to use alsa-driver, you must not have alsa compiled in the
  kernel, I dunno exactly how you got this error using alsa already if
  everything was working before (unless you changed any settings on your
  kernel config). Enable only the audio support, compile modules for
  your sound-cards and let alsa-driver do the rest.
 
  On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi
  
   I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view
   before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv
   world was :-
  
   checking for built-in ALSA... yes
   configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel.
  
   !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report:
   !!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log
  
   !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed.
   !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0
   !!! econf failed
   !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
   message.
  
   I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is
   currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first
   installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built
   ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error.
   I checked the changelog and this package
   media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may
   have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is
   trying to install it even though I do not require it.
  
   Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is
   right and that I will be safe to remove the package.
   Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am
   about to kill my system :)
   in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice .
  
   thanks stu
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error

2005-07-18 Thread Stuart Howard
thx for the response 

I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound
works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am
not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a
hangover from my initial genkernel instalation.
I would like to remove this package from my system simply because I
think I dont need it, this being the bit I am not sure about.
I am afraid that there are two things on linux that I have never got
on well with, sound and optical drives. :)

stu



On 7/18/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In order to use alsa-driver, you must not have alsa compiled in the
 kernel, I dunno exactly how you got this error using alsa already if
 everything was working before (unless you changed any settings on your
 kernel config). Enable only the audio support, compile modules for
 your sound-cards and let alsa-driver do the rest.
 
 On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
 
  I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view
  before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv
  world was :-
 
  checking for built-in ALSA... yes
  configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel.
 
  !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report:
  !!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log
 
  !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed.
  !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0
  !!! econf failed
  !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
  message.
 
  I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is
  currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first
  installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built
  ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error.
  I checked the changelog and this package
  media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may
  have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is
  trying to install it even though I do not require it.
 
  Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is
  right and that I will be safe to remove the package.
  Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am
  about to kill my system :)
  in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice .
 
  thanks stu
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error

2005-07-18 Thread Daniel da Veiga
In order to use alsa-driver, you must not have alsa compiled in the
kernel, I dunno exactly how you got this error using alsa already if
everything was working before (unless you changed any settings on your
kernel config). Enable only the audio support, compile modules for
your sound-cards and let alsa-driver do the rest.

On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view
 before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv
 world was :-
 
 checking for built-in ALSA... yes
 configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel.
 
 !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report:
 !!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log
 
 !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed.
 !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0
 !!! econf failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.
 
 I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is
 currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first
 installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built
 ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error.
 I checked the changelog and this package
 media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may
 have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is
 trying to install it even though I do not require it.
 
 Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is
 right and that I will be safe to remove the package.
 Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am
 about to kill my system :)
 in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice .
 
 thanks stu
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error

2005-07-18 Thread Zac Medico

Stuart Howard wrote:
thx for the response 


I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound
works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am
not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a
hangover from my initial genkernel instalation.
I would like to remove this package from my system simply because I
think I dont need it, this being the bit I am not sure about.
I am afraid that there are two things on linux that I have never got
on well with, sound and optical drives. :)

stu



In the gentoo alsa guide lists the pros and cons of alsa-driver vs. the alsa 
modules from kernel.org.  If alsa already works then you don't need 
alsa-driver.  Portage would certainly notify you of any dependency.

After you prune the world file, you can use emerge -a depclean to remove 
unneeded packages.  Of course, after a depclean (or any library changes), revdep-rebuild 
may be necessary.

Zac
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[gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error

2005-07-18 Thread Stuart Howard
Hi 

I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view
before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv
world was :-

checking for built-in ALSA... yes
configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel.

!!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report:
!!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log

!!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed.
!!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0
!!! econf failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is
currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first
installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built
ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error.
I checked the changelog and this package
media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may
have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is
trying to install it even though I do not require it.

Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is
right and that I will be safe to remove the package.
Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am
about to kill my system :)
in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice .

thanks stu


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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error

2005-07-18 Thread Stuart Howard
OK well it looks like I have been neglecting my admin duties 

I am going to proceed with removing the alsa-driver and then go from
there, Holly thx for the workaround but I do not feel confident in me
;)
I will trust the powers that be and make portage happy, my theory
being that portage manages a safe secure stable system and why should
I choose to break it.
Anyway, on further investigation ie. a revdeprebuild and a emerge p
--depclean [as suggested] it seems I have a fair few problems. Lots of
nasty red messages saying eek!!
[mmm I digress it seems, must return to topic] 
so revdep is complaining at firefox, probably due to my changing from
compiled to bin and the depclean would like to remove 134 packages!!

On further reading I think that adding -gnome to /etc/make.conf was
hasty [I use xfce but still enjoy a few gnome packages]
I will have to do some investigating.

On the plus side my daily emerge world has just completed as I was
writing this so that is good and sound appears to work though I have
not yet rebooted --loathed to do it, reminds me of days on the dark
side.

well thx people, I will be back should all go horribly wrong :)

stu



On 7/18/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stuart Howard schreef:
  thx for the response
 
  I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound
  works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am
  not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a
  hangover from my initial genkernel instalation.
 
 Well, there is a compromise solution:
 
 /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
 
 I don't have a clue what I tried to install that wanted alsa-driver, but
 I added
 
 media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.6a (don't actually have to have a version,
 afaik, you can just put the package name)
 
 to the above-mentioned file, and it never bothered me again.
 
 Basically, you're telling Portage that you've handled this-- the
 package is installed,  just not *by* Portage, so it should just trust
 you. And of course you have installed the package-- when you compiled
 the kernel, so it's not even like you're lying or anything.
 
 The upside of this should be that you can uninstall the alsa-driver
 package (if it is installed), or do an emerge (-p) --depclean to get rid
 of it, or remove it from your world file, and no program that depends on
 it should be disturbed (because you've informed Portage that the
 equivalent data is available, and Portage trusts you :-) )-- and no
 package that wants to depend on it in the future should try to install it.
 
 HTH,
 Holly
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