Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-15 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:18:25 -0400
"Francisco Rivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Message to all list : We have a work to do: Help people!. The wrold
> need person like us, people help people to be better. Smile and have
> a nice very nice day.

The world does indeed need people like you, the helpful ones.  The most
powerful part of gentoo is the extremely helpful user base.  Hopefully,
some day the rest of the world will get over their fear of non-windows
(which nowadays means unix ;) - even OSX is unix-ful enough to be in
the most recent Unix in a Nutshell ) and realize that if they only
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-15 Thread Francisco Rivas

Johannes my friend.. and all list..

If I live near to you I will go to your pc and try personaly but It's not
possible, so please we try later, when fell good try, no matter how many
time take this, really. I think the most imortant thing is try sometimes.
But we do a better work, and this is the main idea of the list. Believe me a
lot of people here can help you and I am so sure they will do.

Thanks for let us help you :D..

Message to all list : We have a work to do: Help people!. The wrold need
person like us, people help people to be better. Smile and have a nice very
nice day.

On 5/15/07, Johannes Skov Frandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi everybody

Tried and failed... again!

Everything installs nicely... but 'ati-config --initial' won't work
without
a valid 'xorg.conf' file as input.

The one that it do generates when I give it the one that works with the
opensource driver
don't allow me to run startx. It claims it can't find a monitor and the
graphic card driver.

I read on Slashdot that AMD plans to deliver future ati drivers as
opensource. Let's hope that makes thinks easy for everybody. I want bother
anymore with this graphic card. The opensource driver works decently, and
I
will start to look in to other things that are annoying me; like why I
can't
emerge vlc and why I can't get rhythmbox to play mp3.

PS

To Francisco...

Sorry for bailing out... It has been a big boost to my moral when trying
to
solve this problem, having enthusiastic and dedicated people like yourself
guiding and helping me. I will strive to be just as dedicated when my
experience reaches a level where I can be of help for this list.

Regards
Johannes Skov Frandsen

-Original Message-
From: Aleksandar L. Dimitrov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12. maj 2007 21:26
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:34:39 -0400
"Francisco Rivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi friends, Johannes bro.. I can't give up with that, I know we can
> solve your problem, I feel it :D
>

Watch out, or you'll end up as a case for the Scary Devil Monastery.
I've probably already reached this point. :)

> The most important thing is try, one more try and it's enough..
>
> Uninstall the xserver, unistall the ati drivers
> check all configurations of your kernel..
> Install xserver 7.1 and 8.36.5  ati driver manually.. run aticonfig
> --initial
>

The Xorg-Server version 1.3 is still in the testing branch, so you
might do better with the following command:

VIDEO_CARDS="fglrx" emerge -va =x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3

Then follow the already given instructions, i.e. install the version of
the driver ATI recommends

emerge -C ati-drivers && emerge -va =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8

and then remove your xorg.conf. Not remove of course, but just rename
it to a backup file. Then go on with ati-config --initial. It could
mourn about a missing X.conf, but I think it should really make one up,
no matter if there's already one or not. Running ati-config --initial
on any unclean xorg.conf could really make a mess out of it anyways
(multiple Server/Device/Monitor entries... that can be quite a nuisance
to get rid of!).

If you need any OpenGL-stuff (quite a chance you do...) this can be
discussed later on. Let's first get it to work at all :)

Regards, Aleks

PS: that's like the standard ritual for being accepted as someone
familiar with the basics of Linux: going to xorg.conf hell... once you
get used to it, it's easy. If you experience any trouble you could as
well just post it here, so we can have a look at it.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-15 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Hi everybody

Tried and failed... again!

Everything installs nicely... but 'ati-config --initial' won't work without
a valid 'xorg.conf' file as input.

The one that it do generates when I give it the one that works with the
opensource driver
don't allow me to run startx. It claims it can't find a monitor and the
graphic card driver.

I read on Slashdot that AMD plans to deliver future ati drivers as
opensource. Let's hope that makes thinks easy for everybody. I want bother
anymore with this graphic card. The opensource driver works decently, and I
will start to look in to other things that are annoying me; like why I can't
emerge vlc and why I can't get rhythmbox to play mp3.

PS

To Francisco... 

Sorry for bailing out... It has been a big boost to my moral when trying to
solve this problem, having enthusiastic and dedicated people like yourself
guiding and helping me. I will strive to be just as dedicated when my
experience reaches a level where I can be of help for this list.

Regards
Johannes Skov Frandsen

-Original Message-
From: Aleksandar L. Dimitrov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12. maj 2007 21:26
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:34:39 -0400
"Francisco Rivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi friends, Johannes bro.. I can't give up with that, I know we can
> solve your problem, I feel it :D
> 

Watch out, or you'll end up as a case for the Scary Devil Monastery.
I've probably already reached this point. :)

> The most important thing is try, one more try and it's enough..
> 
> Uninstall the xserver, unistall the ati drivers
> check all configurations of your kernel..
> Install xserver 7.1 and 8.36.5  ati driver manually.. run aticonfig
> --initial
>

The Xorg-Server version 1.3 is still in the testing branch, so you
might do better with the following command:

VIDEO_CARDS="fglrx" emerge -va =x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3

Then follow the already given instructions, i.e. install the version of
the driver ATI recommends 

emerge -C ati-drivers && emerge -va =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8

and then remove your xorg.conf. Not remove of course, but just rename
it to a backup file. Then go on with ati-config --initial. It could
mourn about a missing X.conf, but I think it should really make one up,
no matter if there's already one or not. Running ati-config --initial
on any unclean xorg.conf could really make a mess out of it anyways
(multiple Server/Device/Monitor entries... that can be quite a nuisance
to get rid of!).

If you need any OpenGL-stuff (quite a chance you do...) this can be
discussed later on. Let's first get it to work at all :)

Regards, Aleks

PS: that's like the standard ritual for being accepted as someone
familiar with the basics of Linux: going to xorg.conf hell... once you
get used to it, it's easy. If you experience any trouble you could as
well just post it here, so we can have a look at it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-12 Thread Aleksandar L. Dimitrov
On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:34:39 -0400
"Francisco Rivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi friends, Johannes bro.. I can't give up with that, I know we can
> solve your problem, I feel it :D
> 

Watch out, or you'll end up as a case for the Scary Devil Monastery.
I've probably already reached this point. :)

> The most important thing is try, one more try and it's enough..
> 
> Uninstall the xserver, unistall the ati drivers
> check all configurations of your kernel..
> Install xserver 7.1 and 8.36.5  ati driver manually.. run aticonfig
> --initial
>

The Xorg-Server version 1.3 is still in the testing branch, so you
might do better with the following command:

VIDEO_CARDS="fglrx" emerge -va =x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3

Then follow the already given instructions, i.e. install the version of
the driver ATI recommends 

emerge -C ati-drivers && emerge -va =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8

and then remove your xorg.conf. Not remove of course, but just rename
it to a backup file. Then go on with ati-config --initial. It could
mourn about a missing X.conf, but I think it should really make one up,
no matter if there's already one or not. Running ati-config --initial
on any unclean xorg.conf could really make a mess out of it anyways
(multiple Server/Device/Monitor entries... that can be quite a nuisance
to get rid of!).

If you need any OpenGL-stuff (quite a chance you do...) this can be
discussed later on. Let's first get it to work at all :)

Regards, Aleks

PS: that's like the standard ritual for being accepted as someone
familiar with the basics of Linux: going to xorg.conf hell... once you
get used to it, it's easy. If you experience any trouble you could as
well just post it here, so we can have a look at it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-12 Thread Guillermo A. Amaral
On Saturday 12 May 2007 05:31, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> Deciding that I could not work with that I tried the open source drivers
> for the ati card.
> 
> Joe

If your not looking for 3D Accel how about trying the VESA driver,
or try some live distro that load up your video correctly and check out the 
xorg.conf to get an idea on how to set your up.

-William

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-12 Thread Francisco Rivas

Hi friends, Johannes bro.. I can't give up with that, I know we can solve
your problem, I feel it :D

The most important thing is try, one more try and it's enough..

Uninstall the xserver, unistall the ati drivers
check all configurations of your kernel..
Install xserver 7.1 and 8.36.5  ati driver manually.. run aticonfig
--initial

It's very strange to me it not work... I fell frustrated.. I really sorry
not help enough in your problem please excuse me...

:D


On 5/12/07, Johannes Skov Frandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi everybody

Well the xorg server downgrade did not help either, so I abandon the
cloesed source drivers from Ati
and went on to try to install my S3 onboard savage  graphic processor.

This work almost instantly without any problems except for the fact that
I experienced a lot
of areas on the screen that was updated out of sync with the rest of the
screen.

Deciding that I could not work with that I tried the open source drivers
for the ati card.

I followed this guide:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers

and added these lines to my make.conf:

INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse"
VIDEO_CARDS="savage radeon"

reinstalled my x-server and tried to start x.

This failed.

I then spent one hour or so tweaking xorg.conf and about 10 minutes ago
I finally found a combination that seems to work.


I still can't get max resolution for my monitor (1920*1200) but everything
else seems to work to a degree that I can live with for now.

Thanks for all the pointers and advices. It's very nice to have a
community
to help when you stumble along with your Linux installation.

Joe

Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Johannes,
>
> It is a good idea try with other version of the xorg. please post
> something about your experience.
>
>
> Currently I'm supporting the theory that Young Sun is right, and
that
> the problem is the version of Xorg.
>
> Tomorrow I will try to uninstall the compiled drivers from ati and
> try
> the open source drivers. If that doesn't work
> I'm feeling inclined to buy a new nvidia card instead.
>
> Maybe I could also try to make the onboard S3 savage card  work,
> although I have never been a big fan of
> graphic cards with shared memory.
>
> Thanks again for all the help
>
> Johannes
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-12 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen

Hi everybody

Well the xorg server downgrade did not help either, so I abandon the 
cloesed source drivers from Ati

and went on to try to install my S3 onboard savage  graphic processor.

This work almost instantly without any problems except for the fact that 
I experienced a lot
of areas on the screen that was updated out of sync with the rest of the 
screen.


Deciding that I could not work with that I tried the open source drivers 
for the ati card.


I followed this guide: 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers


and added these lines to my make.conf:

INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse"
VIDEO_CARDS="savage radeon"

reinstalled my x-server and tried to start x.

This failed.

I then spent one hour or so tweaking xorg.conf and about 10 minutes ago
I finally found a combination that seems to work.


I still can't get max resolution for my monitor (1920*1200) but everything
else seems to work to a degree that I can live with for now.

Thanks for all the pointers and advices. It's very nice to have a community
to help when you stumble along with your Linux installation.

Joe

Francisco Rivas wrote:

Johannes,

It is a good idea try with other version of the xorg. please post 
something about your experience.



Currently I'm supporting the theory that Young Sun is right, and that
the problem is the version of Xorg.

Tomorrow I will try to uninstall the compiled drivers from ati and
try
the open source drivers. If that doesn't work
I'm feeling inclined to buy a new nvidia card instead.

Maybe I could also try to make the onboard S3 savage card  work,
although I have never been a big fan of
graphic cards with shared memory.

Thanks again for all the help

Johannes


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-11 Thread Francisco Rivas

Johannes,

It is a good idea try with other version of the xorg. please post something
about your experience.

On 5/11/07, JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




-Original Message-
From: Johannes Skov Frandsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:24 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

Francisco Rivas skrev:
> Hi all friends, I really like this situations because we learn so
> much...I have to thank you to all for this experience...
>
> Well we got a lot of work to do for help Johannes.
>
> You fell confortable installing the ati-drivers manually?, if your
> aswer is Yes, then:
>
> 1.- Disable all support for ati in the kernel
>
> 2.- Enable the framebuffer console like
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash, because I know (for sure) you
> want a grubsplash and bootsplash :D :
>
> 3.- Unmerge all ati driver you have installed.
>
> 4.- Execute manually the installation and finally aticonfig --initial,
> and startx.
>
> Note : I have :
> X.org <http://X.org> :
>   X Window System Version 7.1.1
>   Release Date: 12 May 2006
>   X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
>   Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
>   Current Operating System: Linux dta-desktop 2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP
> PREEMPT Wed May 9 17:07:22 VET 2007 i686
>   Build Date: 28 February 2007
>   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>to make sure that you have the latest version.
>   Module Loader present
>
> Kernel :
>   2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP PREEMPT (but I has 2.6.20-r6,r7,r8) and it
> works too.
>
> Ati Card : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
>   $fglrxinfo
>  OpenGL vendor string : ATI Technologies Inc.
>  OpenGL renderer string : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
> OpenGL version string : 2.0.6458 (8.36.5)
>
> If your answer is No. Try with #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge
> ati-drivers, in my case is
> *  x11-apps/ati-drivers-extra
>   Latest version available: 8.33.6
>   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>   Size of files: 57,246 kB
>   Homepage:  http://www.ati.com <http://www.ati.com>
>   Description:   Ati precompiled drivers extra application
>   License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0
>
> *  x11-drivers/ati-drivers
>   Latest version available: 8.35.5
>   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>   Size of files: 55,971 kB
>   Homepage:  http://www.ati.com
>   Description:   Ati precompiled drivers for recent chipsets
>   License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0
>
> Emerge the 8.35.5 and aticonfig --initial
>
> I hope this help you...Please comment us your experience...
>
> --
> Francisco Rivas
> Linux User (New) : #448324
> Linux Machine (New) : 355187
Hi everybody

Thanks for all the help so far,,, I'm embarrassed/sorry to say that non
of it really worked so far.

I recompile the  kernel without any ati support and installed 8.35.5
driver without a problem.
But aticonfig claims it can't run because of an invalid xorg.conf file
and i can't generate a new one with 'Xorg -configure'
it just prints this error:

marvin / Xorg -configure

X Window System Version 7.2.0
Release Date: 22 January 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux marvin 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #6 SMP Fri May
11 17:52:
30 GMT 2007 i686
Build Date: 11 May 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri May 11 23:11:24 2007
List of video drivers:
ati
atimisc
fglrx
radeon
savage
r128

Backtrace:
0: Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80c7b64]
1: [0xe420]
2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxProbeMain+0x13d)
[0xb74a5b1
d]
3: Xorg(DoConfigure+0x208) [0x80ca2e8]
4: Xorg(InitOutput+0x685) [0x809fae5]
5: Xorg(main+0x27b) [0x806e26b]
6: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd8) [0xb7c86838]
7: Xorg(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa1) [0x806d7a1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

Aborted

Have you tried this with removing fglrx?  I've had similar issues with
other
video drivers, and by removing fglrx from the equation I've been able to
at
least get X to fire up.

Currently I'm supporting the theory that Young Sun is right, and that
the problem is the version of Xorg.

Tomorrow I will try to uninstall the compil

RE: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-11 Thread JD


-Original Message-
From: Johannes Skov Frandsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:24 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

Francisco Rivas skrev:
> Hi all friends, I really like this situations because we learn so 
> much...I have to thank you to all for this experience...
>
> Well we got a lot of work to do for help Johannes.
>
> You fell confortable installing the ati-drivers manually?, if your 
> aswer is Yes, then:
>
> 1.- Disable all support for ati in the kernel
>
> 2.- Enable the framebuffer console like 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash, because I know (for sure) you 
> want a grubsplash and bootsplash :D :
>
> 3.- Unmerge all ati driver you have installed.
>
> 4.- Execute manually the installation and finally aticonfig --initial, 
> and startx.
>
> Note : I have :
> X.org <http://X.org> :
>   X Window System Version 7.1.1
>   Release Date: 12 May 2006
>   X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
>   Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
>   Current Operating System: Linux dta-desktop 2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP 
> PREEMPT Wed May 9 17:07:22 VET 2007 i686
>   Build Date: 28 February 2007
>   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>to make sure that you have the latest version.
>   Module Loader present
>
> Kernel :
>   2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP PREEMPT (but I has 2.6.20-r6,r7,r8) and it 
> works too.
>
> Ati Card : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
>   $fglrxinfo
>  OpenGL vendor string : ATI Technologies Inc.
>  OpenGL renderer string : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
> OpenGL version string : 2.0.6458 (8.36.5)
>
> If your answer is No. Try with #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge 
> ati-drivers, in my case is
> *  x11-apps/ati-drivers-extra
>   Latest version available: 8.33.6
>   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>   Size of files: 57,246 kB
>   Homepage:  http://www.ati.com <http://www.ati.com>
>   Description:   Ati precompiled drivers extra application
>   License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0
>
> *  x11-drivers/ati-drivers
>   Latest version available: 8.35.5
>   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>   Size of files: 55,971 kB
>   Homepage:  http://www.ati.com
>   Description:   Ati precompiled drivers for recent chipsets
>   License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0
>
> Emerge the 8.35.5 and aticonfig --initial
>
> I hope this help you...Please comment us your experience...
>
> -- 
> Francisco Rivas
> Linux User (New) : #448324
> Linux Machine (New) : 355187
Hi everybody

Thanks for all the help so far,,, I'm embarrassed/sorry to say that non 
of it really worked so far.

I recompile the  kernel without any ati support and installed 8.35.5 
driver without a problem.
But aticonfig claims it can't run because of an invalid xorg.conf file 
and i can't generate a new one with 'Xorg -configure'
it just prints this error:

marvin / Xorg -configure

X Window System Version 7.2.0
Release Date: 22 January 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux marvin 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #6 SMP Fri May 
11 17:52:
30 GMT 2007 i686
Build Date: 11 May 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri May 11 23:11:24 2007
List of video drivers:
ati
atimisc
fglrx
radeon
savage
r128

Backtrace:
0: Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80c7b64]
1: [0xe420]
2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxProbeMain+0x13d) 
[0xb74a5b1
d]
3: Xorg(DoConfigure+0x208) [0x80ca2e8]
4: Xorg(InitOutput+0x685) [0x809fae5]
5: Xorg(main+0x27b) [0x806e26b]
6: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd8) [0xb7c86838]
7: Xorg(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa1) [0x806d7a1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

Aborted

Have you tried this with removing fglrx?  I've had similar issues with other
video drivers, and by removing fglrx from the equation I've been able to at
least get X to fire up.

Currently I'm supporting the theory that Young Sun is right, and that 
the problem is the version of Xorg.

Tomorrow I will try to uninstall the compiled drivers from ati and try 
the open source drivers. If that doesn't work
I'm feeling inclined to buy a new nvidia card instead.

Maybe I could also try to make the onboard S3 savage card  work, 
although I have never been a big fan of 
graphic cards with shared memory.

Thanks again for all the help

Johannes


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-11 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen

Francisco Rivas skrev:
Hi all friends, I really like this situations because we learn so 
much...I have to thank you to all for this experience...


Well we got a lot of work to do for help Johannes.

You fell confortable installing the ati-drivers manually?, if your 
aswer is Yes, then:


1.- Disable all support for ati in the kernel

2.- Enable the framebuffer console like 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash, because I know (for sure) you 
want a grubsplash and bootsplash :D :


3.- Unmerge all ati driver you have installed.

4.- Execute manually the installation and finally aticonfig --initial, 
and startx.
   
Note : I have :

X.org  :
  X Window System Version 7.1.1
  Release Date: 12 May 2006
  X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
  Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
  Current Operating System: Linux dta-desktop 2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP 
PREEMPT Wed May 9 17:07:22 VET 2007 i686

  Build Date: 28 February 2007
  Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
  Module Loader present

Kernel :
  2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP PREEMPT (but I has 2.6.20-r6,r7,r8) and it 
works too.


Ati Card : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
  $fglrxinfo
 OpenGL vendor string : ATI Technologies Inc.
 OpenGL renderer string : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
OpenGL version string : 2.0.6458 (8.36.5)

If your answer is No. Try with #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge 
ati-drivers, in my case is

*  x11-apps/ati-drivers-extra
  Latest version available: 8.33.6
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of files: 57,246 kB
  Homepage:  http://www.ati.com 
  Description:   Ati precompiled drivers extra application
  License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0

*  x11-drivers/ati-drivers
  Latest version available: 8.35.5
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of files: 55,971 kB
  Homepage:  http://www.ati.com
  Description:   Ati precompiled drivers for recent chipsets
  License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0

Emerge the 8.35.5 and aticonfig --initial

I hope this help you...Please comment us your experience...

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Hi everybody

Thanks for all the help so far,,, I'm embarrassed/sorry to say that non 
of it really worked so far.


I recompile the  kernel without any ati support and installed 8.35.5 
driver without a problem.
But aticonfig claims it can't run because of an invalid xorg.conf file 
and i can't generate a new one with 'Xorg -configure'

it just prints this error:

marvin / Xorg -configure

X Window System Version 7.2.0
Release Date: 22 January 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux marvin 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #6 SMP Fri May 
11 17:52:

30 GMT 2007 i686
Build Date: 11 May 2007
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri May 11 23:11:24 2007
List of video drivers:
   ati
   atimisc
   fglrx
   radeon
   savage
   r128

Backtrace:
0: Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80c7b64]
1: [0xe420]
2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxProbeMain+0x13d) 
[0xb74a5b1

d]
3: Xorg(DoConfigure+0x208) [0x80ca2e8]
4: Xorg(InitOutput+0x685) [0x809fae5]
5: Xorg(main+0x27b) [0x806e26b]
6: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd8) [0xb7c86838]
7: Xorg(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa1) [0x806d7a1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

Aborted

Currently I'm supporting the theory that Young Sun is right, and that 
the problem is the version of Xorg.


Tomorrow I will try to uninstall the compiled drivers from ati and try 
the open source drivers. If that doesn't work

I'm feeling inclined to buy a new nvidia card instead.

Maybe I could also try to make the onboard S3 savage card  work, 
although I have never been a big fan of 
graphic cards with shared memory.


Thanks again for all the help

Johannes


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-10 Thread young sun

Sorry,my English is poor:-)
I have a ATI with 9250 ,so I have to add ">x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.29.1"
to  /etc/portage/package.mask,ati-driver-8.28.8-r1 (not ati-driver-8.28.8)
and the kernel with 2.6.19 is well,but the 2.6.20 cant.
xorg 7.2 isnt support R200 (inclue 9200 9250)seriers.Dont update to 7.2 from
7.1.
Of course you can choose open source driver,it could be supported.
My English is very very Poor:-(sorry
2007/5/10, Johannes Skov Frandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Hi Johannes and every friend of the list :D.
>
> Johannes two things:
>
> 1.- I think (i guess) it's better install the 8.36.5 ati drivers,
because
> the 8.32.5 ati drivers is too bugs and is better have the actual
> driver, you
> can download from the ati page and put on the portage distfiles and
> install
> it.
>
> 2.- If you don't like the 1 then look here :
>
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554065-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-atidrivers.htmland
>
>
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554736.html?sid=eeac31c8c7d77b4d130703a372462537
>
> that persons have a problem very similary to yours.
>
> Well about your question I think, check your kernel configuration
> Graphics
> Drivers, you have to unmark the ATI modules of the kernel. At last, I
had
> the same problem with 8.32.5 my laptop frezee and the only thing what
> can I
> do was reset using the Power bottom; and the solution was install the
> 8.36.5ati driver, believe me.
>
> I hope be helpfully to you, Have a nice day :D
>
Hi Francisco

Thanks for the help so far...but it still dos not play nicly

According to 'lspci' my graphic card is:

VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
(rev 01)

and according to:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html

I should then  be using version 8.28.8 of the driver.

I have tried coping both the 8.28.8 and the 8.36.5 to my dist folder and
tried to run emerge:

emerge -va ati-drivers

but it only suggests the 8.32.5 version, which as previously mentioned,
dos not work.

Am I missing to parameters to emerge or?

I have tried to compiled ati support directly in to my kernel... this
did not work
I have tried to compile ati support as modules for my kernel... this did
not work
I have tried to add framebuffer support in the kernel with support for
ati this allows me to start x but everything is running real slow
and I experience clipping when I move around windows.

Any pointers?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-10 Thread Francisco Rivas

Hi all friends, I really like this situations because we learn so much...I
have to thank you to all for this experience...

Well we got a lot of work to do for help Johannes.

You fell confortable installing the ati-drivers manually?, if your aswer is
Yes, then:

1.- Disable all support for ati in the kernel

2.- Enable the framebuffer console like
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash, because I know (for sure) you want a
grubsplash and bootsplash :D :

3.- Unmerge all ati driver you have installed.

4.- Execute manually the installation and finally aticonfig --initial, and
startx.

Note : I have :
X.org :
 X Window System Version 7.1.1
 Release Date: 12 May 2006
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
 Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
 Current Operating System: Linux dta-desktop 2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP
PREEMPT Wed May 9 17:07:22 VET 2007 i686
 Build Date: 28 February 2007
 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
  to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Module Loader present

Kernel :
 2.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP PREEMPT (but I has 2.6.20-r6,r7,r8) and it works
too.

Ati Card : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
 $fglrxinfo
OpenGL vendor string : ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string : ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
   OpenGL version string : 2.0.6458 (8.36.5)

If your answer is No. Try with #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge ati-drivers,
in my case is
*  x11-apps/ati-drivers-extra
 Latest version available: 8.33.6
 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 Size of files: 57,246 kB
 Homepage:  http://www.ati.com
 Description:   Ati precompiled drivers extra application
 License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0

*  x11-drivers/ati-drivers
 Latest version available: 8.35.5
 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 Size of files: 55,971 kB
 Homepage:  http://www.ati.com
 Description:   Ati precompiled drivers for recent chipsets
 License:   ATI GPL-2 QPL-1.0

Emerge the 8.35.5 and aticonfig --initial

I hope this help you...Please comment us your experience...

On 5/10/07, Aleksandar L. Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 12:24 +0200, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
> Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 10:45 +0200, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
> >
> >> I should then  be using version 8.28.8 of the driver.
> >>
> >> I have tried coping both the 8.28.8 and the 8.36.5 to my dist folder
and
> >> tried to run emerge:
> >>
> >> emerge -va ati-drivers
> >>
> >> but it only suggests the 8.32.5 version, which as previously
mentioned,
> >> dos not work.
> >>
> >> Am I missing to parameters to emerge or?
> >>
> >
> > You should try
> > $ sudo emerge -va =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5
> > Note that the precise path (before the slash) is mandatory, as is the
> > `=' sign. You don't have to copy the stuff into portage/distfiles, but
> > maybe your xorg-version could block the merge. Try downgrading then.
> >
> > But I'm not sure if this could help with your issues.
> >
> > Regards, Aleks
> >
> >
> Hi Aleks
>
> Sorry... I get the same error
>
> Joe
>
Hi Johannes,
Whoops, sorry, seems I got the version number wrong. Of course, just
substituting the desired version would help. On my system:

12:40:11 | 1 $ emerge -p =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8  USE="acpi opengl -doc"
[blocks B ] x11-drivers/ati-drivers (is blocking
x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0)

This means it is not fine to install them with a newer x-server on my
arch (x86).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-10 Thread Aleksandar L. Dimitrov
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 12:24 +0200, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
> Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 10:45 +0200, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
> >   
> >> I should then  be using version 8.28.8 of the driver.
> >>
> >> I have tried coping both the 8.28.8 and the 8.36.5 to my dist folder and
> >> tried to run emerge:
> >>
> >> emerge -va ati-drivers
> >>
> >> but it only suggests the 8.32.5 version, which as previously mentioned,
> >> dos not work.
> >>
> >> Am I missing to parameters to emerge or?
> >> 
> >
> > You should try 
> > $ sudo emerge -va =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5
> > Note that the precise path (before the slash) is mandatory, as is the
> > `=' sign. You don't have to copy the stuff into portage/distfiles, but
> > maybe your xorg-version could block the merge. Try downgrading then.
> >
> > But I'm not sure if this could help with your issues.
> >
> > Regards, Aleks
> >
> >   
> Hi Aleks
> 
> Sorry... I get the same error
> 
> Joe
> 
Hi Johannes,
Whoops, sorry, seems I got the version number wrong. Of course, just
substituting the desired version would help. On my system:

12:40:11 | 1 $ emerge -p =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8  USE="acpi opengl -doc" 
[blocks B ] x11-drivers/ati-drivers (is blocking
x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0)

This means it is not fine to install them with a newer x-server on my
arch (x86).

Regards, Aleks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-10 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 10:45 +0200, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
>   
>> I should then  be using version 8.28.8 of the driver.
>>
>> I have tried coping both the 8.28.8 and the 8.36.5 to my dist folder and
>> tried to run emerge:
>>
>> emerge -va ati-drivers
>>
>> but it only suggests the 8.32.5 version, which as previously mentioned,
>> dos not work.
>>
>> Am I missing to parameters to emerge or?
>> 
>
> You should try 
> $ sudo emerge -va =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5
> Note that the precise path (before the slash) is mandatory, as is the
> `=' sign. You don't have to copy the stuff into portage/distfiles, but
> maybe your xorg-version could block the merge. Try downgrading then.
>
> But I'm not sure if this could help with your issues.
>
> Regards, Aleks
>
>   
Hi Aleks

Sorry... I get the same error

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-10 Thread Aleksandar L. Dimitrov
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 10:45 +0200, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
> I should then  be using version 8.28.8 of the driver.
> 
> I have tried coping both the 8.28.8 and the 8.36.5 to my dist folder and
> tried to run emerge:
> 
> emerge -va ati-drivers
> 
> but it only suggests the 8.32.5 version, which as previously mentioned,
> dos not work.
> 
> Am I missing to parameters to emerge or?

You should try 
$ sudo emerge -va =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5
Note that the precise path (before the slash) is mandatory, as is the
`=' sign. You don't have to copy the stuff into portage/distfiles, but
maybe your xorg-version could block the merge. Try downgrading then.

But I'm not sure if this could help with your issues.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-10 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Hi Johannes and every friend of the list :D.
>
> Johannes two things:
>
> 1.- I think (i guess) it's better install the 8.36.5 ati drivers, because
> the 8.32.5 ati drivers is too bugs and is better have the actual
> driver, you
> can download from the ati page and put on the portage distfiles and
> install
> it.
>
> 2.- If you don't like the 1 then look here :
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554065-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-atidrivers.htmland
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554736.html?sid=eeac31c8c7d77b4d130703a372462537
>
> that persons have a problem very similary to yours.
>
> Well about your question I think, check your kernel configuration
> Graphics
> Drivers, you have to unmark the ATI modules of the kernel. At last, I had
> the same problem with 8.32.5 my laptop frezee and the only thing what
> can I
> do was reset using the Power bottom; and the solution was install the
> 8.36.5ati driver, believe me.
>
> I hope be helpfully to you, Have a nice day :D
>
Hi Francisco

Thanks for the help so far...but it still dos not play nicly

According to 'lspci' my graphic card is:

 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
(rev 01)

and according to:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html

I should then  be using version 8.28.8 of the driver.

I have tried coping both the 8.28.8 and the 8.36.5 to my dist folder and
tried to run emerge:

emerge -va ati-drivers

but it only suggests the 8.32.5 version, which as previously mentioned,
dos not work.

Am I missing to parameters to emerge or?

I have tried to compiled ati support directly in to my kernel... this
did not work
I have tried to compile ati support as modules for my kernel... this did
not work
I have tried to add framebuffer support in the kernel with support for
ati this allows me to start x but everything is running real slow
and I experience clipping when I move around windows.

Any pointers?

Joe




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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-09 Thread Francisco Rivas

Hi Johannes and every friend of the list :D.

Johannes two things:

1.- I think (i guess) it's better install the 8.36.5 ati drivers, because
the 8.32.5 ati drivers is too bugs and is better have the actual driver, you
can download from the ati page and put on the portage distfiles and install
it.

2.- If you don't like the 1 then look here :
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554065-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-atidrivers.htmland
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554736.html?sid=eeac31c8c7d77b4d130703a372462537
that persons have a problem very similary to yours.

Well about your question I think, check your kernel configuration Graphics
Drivers, you have to unmark the ATI modules of the kernel. At last, I had
the same problem with 8.32.5 my laptop frezee and the only thing what can I
do was reset using the Power bottom; and the solution was install the
8.36.5ati driver, believe me.

I hope be helpfully to you, Have a nice day :D

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-09 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Excuse me please, only few things..
> On 5/8/07, Francisco Rivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, a few months ago I had the same problem [too], then :
>>
>> emerge xf86-input-mouse
>> xf86-video-fbdev
>> xf86-video-vga [1]
>> xf86-video-vesa [1]
>> xf86-input-keyboard
>>
>> Note: [1] Only if you want, because when you install the ati driver you
>> don't need neather of them.
>>
>> By other side and very important (my recomendation), download ati
>> 8.36driver and install it, reconfigure your
>> xorg.conf doing this
>> aticonfig --initial. It's a good idea you do a backup of your xorg.conf.
>
>
> and after aticonfig  --initial, and items before do startx.. and
> $ glxinfo | grep direct [if you have a 3d accel the system response]
>
>direct rendering: Yes
> Or
>
> $glxgears :D
>
> Please excuses for my english and regards :D
>
Hi Francisco

I tried:

emerge -va emerge -av ati-drivers

but got this error:

!!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1614:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 971:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
  environment, line 4097:   Called src_compile
  ati-drivers-8.32.5.ebuild, line 157:   Called linux-mod_src_compile
  linux-mod.eclass, line 516:   Called die

!!! Unable to make  GCC_VER_MAJ=4 KVER=2.6.20-gentoo-r7
KDIR=/usr/src/linux kmod_build.
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
!!! A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5/temp/build.log'.

Any hint on what could be the problem?

Johannes Skov Frandsen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-08 Thread Dmitry
Hello,

I've never tried to run X without config, but.. I see that your output 
shows:

(EE) Unable to locate/open config file

is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf okay ?



> Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> This is my first attempt on installing X so bare with me if my
>> question is somewhat trivial.
>>
>> So...I emerge gnome... tried to start x and got the following error
>> message:
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ startx
>> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/joe/.serverauth.3857
>>
>> X Window System Version 7.2.0
>> Release Date: 22 January 2007
>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
>> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
>> Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #3 SMP Tue
>> May 8 19:5
>> 0:52 GMT 2007 i686
>> Build Date: 05 May 2007
>>Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>>to make sure that you have the latest version.
>> Module Loader present
>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>>(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>>(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
>> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue May  8 20:33:09 2007
>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>
>> New driver is "ati"
>> (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines)
>> (EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) Failed to load module "vga" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) No drivers available.
>>
>> Fatal server error:
>> no screens found
>> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
>>  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
>> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $
>>
> 
> Johannes, it might be worth taking a look at the following:
> 
> Info about setting up Xorg's open or ATI closed source drivers:
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
> 
> Setting up ATI closed source drivers:
> 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
> 
> 
> Also, what model is your ATI card?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-08 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:

Hi

This is my first attempt on installing X so bare with me if my question 
is somewhat trivial.


So...I emerge gnome... tried to start x and got the following error 
message:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/joe/.serverauth.3857

X Window System Version 7.2.0
Release Date: 22 January 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #3 SMP Tue 
May 8 19:5

0:52 GMT 2007 i686
Build Date: 05 May 2007
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue May  8 20:33:09 2007
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file

New driver is "ati"
(==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines)
(EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "vga" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $



Johannes, it might be worth taking a look at the following:

Info about setting up Xorg's open or ATI closed source drivers:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml

Setting up ATI closed source drivers:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers


Also, what model is your ATI card?


Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-08 Thread Dale
Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Hi, a few months ago I had the same problem, then :
>
> emerge xf86-input-mouse
> xf86-video-fbdev
> xf86-video-vga [1]
> xf86-video-vesa [1]
> xf86-input-keyboard
>
> Note: Only if you want because when you install the ati driver you
> don't need neather of them.
>
> By other side and very important (my recomendation), download ati 8.36
> driver and install it, reconfigure your xorg.conf doing this
> aticonfig --initial. It's a good idea you do a backup of your xorg.conf.
>
> Please try that thing and please give us feedback :D
>
> I hope be helpfully for you have a nice day :D
>
> On 5/8/07, *Johannes Skov Frandsen* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> This is my first attempt on installing X so bare with me if my
> question
> is somewhat trivial.
>
> So...I emerge gnome... tried to start x and got the following
> error message:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ startx
> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/joe/.serverauth.3857
>
> X Window System Version 7.2.0
> Release Date: 22 January 2007
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
> Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #3 SMP Tue
> May 8 19:5
> 0:52 GMT 2007 i686
> Build Date: 05 May 2007
> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
> 
> to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue May  8 20:33:09 2007
> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>
> New driver is "ati"
> (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines)
> (EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "vga" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) No drivers available.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
>   after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $
>
> Is there a config file I have mised or
> I have compiled my kernel with ATI support to the best of my
> knowlege.(my shell is running nicly in 1920*1200 so i guess it
> must be
> using my graphiccard right).
>
> If its any help, linux seems to think I'm using a CRT monitor when I
> boot (says so when it boots) , but I'm not.
>
> Any help appriciated.
>
> Johannes Skov Frandsen
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>
>
>
>
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> Linux Machine (New) : 355187 

Do you have the following set in your make.conf file?

> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse"

That may not help but it may.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-08 Thread Francisco Rivas

Excuse me please, only few things..
On 5/8/07, Francisco Rivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi, a few months ago I had the same problem [too], then :

emerge xf86-input-mouse
xf86-video-fbdev
xf86-video-vga [1]
xf86-video-vesa [1]
xf86-input-keyboard

Note: [1] Only if you want, because when you install the ati driver you
don't need neather of them.

By other side and very important (my recomendation), download ati 8.36driver 
and install it, reconfigure your
xorg.conf doing this
aticonfig --initial. It's a good idea you do a backup of your xorg.conf.



and after aticonfig  --initial, and items before do startx.. and
$ glxinfo | grep direct [if you have a 3d accel the system response]

   direct rendering: Yes
Or

$glxgears :D

Please excuses for my english and regards :D


Please try that thing and please give us feedback :D

I hope be helpfully for you have a nice day :D

On 5/8/07, Johannes Skov Frandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> This is my first attempt on installing X so bare with me if my question
> is somewhat trivial.
>
> So...I emerge gnome... tried to start x and got the following error
> message:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ startx
> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/joe/.serverauth.3857
>
> X Window System Version 7.2.0
> Release Date: 22 January 2007
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
> Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #3 SMP Tue
> May 8 19:5
> 0:52 GMT 2007 i686
> Build Date: 05 May 2007
> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
> to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue May  8 20:33:09 2007
> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>
> New driver is "ati"
> (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines)
> (EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "vga" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) No drivers available.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
>   after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $
>
> Is there a config file I have mised or
> I have compiled my kernel with ATI support to the best of my
> knowlege.(my shell is running nicly in 1920*1200 so i guess it must be
> using my graphiccard right).
>
> If its any help, linux seems to think I'm using a CRT monitor when I
> boot (says so when it boots) , but I'm not.
>
> Any help appriciated.
>
> Johannes Skov Frandsen
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting X

2007-05-08 Thread Francisco Rivas

Hi, a few months ago I had the same problem, then :

emerge xf86-input-mouse
   xf86-video-fbdev
   xf86-video-vga [1]
   xf86-video-vesa [1]
   xf86-input-keyboard

Note: Only if you want because when you install the ati driver you don't
need neather of them.

By other side and very important (my recomendation), download ati
8.36driver and install it, reconfigure your
xorg.conf doing this
aticonfig --initial. It's a good idea you do a backup of your xorg.conf.

Please try that thing and please give us feedback :D

I hope be helpfully for you have a nice day :D

On 5/8/07, Johannes Skov Frandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi

This is my first attempt on installing X so bare with me if my question
is somewhat trivial.

So...I emerge gnome... tried to start x and got the following error
message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/joe/.serverauth.3857

X Window System Version 7.2.0
Release Date: 22 January 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 i686
Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #3 SMP Tue
May 8 19:5
0:52 GMT 2007 i686
Build Date: 05 May 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue May  8 20:33:09 2007
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file

New driver is "ati"
(==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines)
(EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "vga" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

Is there a config file I have mised or
I have compiled my kernel with ATI support to the best of my
knowlege.(my shell is running nicly in 1920*1200 so i guess it must be
using my graphiccard right).

If its any help, linux seems to think I'm using a CRT monitor when I
boot (says so when it boots) , but I'm not.

Any help appriciated.

Johannes Skov Frandsen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting x after update

2006-08-07 Thread Stewart Taylor

Richard Fish wrote:

On 8/6/06, Stewart Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Hi all

I've just completed an emerge --update --deep world, all went ok until I
re-started, then I could only get console mode. This is the contents of
/var/log/xdm.log.


Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Probably you have ModulePath in /etc/X11/xorg.conf set to some now
non-existant directory.  Try removing the setting, or change it to:

   ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"

HTH,
-Richard


Thanks Richard, that did the trick.

Stewart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting x after update

2006-08-06 Thread Richard Fish

On 8/6/06, Stewart Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Hi all

I've just completed an emerge --update --deep world, all went ok until I
re-started, then I could only get console mode. This is the contents of
/var/log/xdm.log.


Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Probably you have ModulePath in /etc/X11/xorg.conf set to some now
non-existant directory.  Try removing the setting, or change it to:

   ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"

HTH,
-Richard
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