Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:11 PM,   wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM,   wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >> >> I don't understand the current situation .So now you get ALL your
> >> >> volumes activated, or not?
> >> >
> >> > Yep, they are all activated and they all get mounted.
> >>
> >> Cool, one problem less.
> >>
> >> >> > Now for some systemd problems.  The root file system was read only 
> >> >> > when
> >> >> > I logged in, but I could remount it rw -- not sure why this was
> >> >> > happening.
> >> >>
> >> >> Set systemd.log_level=debug in your command line, and post the exit
> >> >> from journalctl -b.
> >> >
> >> > I had debug in the command line by itself, would that make the correct
> >> > log_level?  The file is quite large, should I send it to you privately?
> >>
> >> I don't think is necessary, I may have found the real problem (see below).
> >>
> >> >> >  Some units did start, but most did not.  Whenever I tried to
> >> >> > start one manually, I got a message like the following:
> >> [snip]
> >> >> > No matter what unit I tried to start I would get such a  message about
> >> >> > the service.mount.
> >> >>
> >> >> That sounds like a problem with the cgroups hierarchy (which uses a
> >> >> virtual filesystem). I don't remember seeing a problem like that
> >> >> before.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Also, even though my network names were correct, they did not come up,
> >> >> > but I will try to look in the logs to see why not.
> >> > I wrote a service file to start my network adaptors, here it is:
> >> > network@.service
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Unit]
> >> > Description=Network Connectivity for %i
> >> > Wants=network.target
> >> > Before=network.target
> >> > BindsTo=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> >> > After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> >> > [Service]
> >> > Type=oneshot
> >> > RemainAfterExit=yes
> >> > EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network@%i
> >> > ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i up
> >> > ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip addr add ${address}/${netmask} broadcast 
> >> > ${broadcast} dev %i
> >> > ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -n ${gateway} && /usr/bin/ip route add 
> >> > default via
> >> > ${gateway}'
> >> > ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -f /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh&&/bin/bash  
> >> > /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh
> >> > ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip addr flush dev %i
> >> > ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i down
> >> > [Install]
> >> > WantedBy=network.target
> >>
> >> Did you enabled network@ifaca.service? Also, WantedBy=network.target
> >> doesn't do what you probably think it does (check [1]... and BTW, I
> >> forgot my last footnote, is now on [2]).
> >>
> >> I would use WantedBy=multi-user.target.
> >>
> >> >> systemd will not (AFAIK) start your network, and before the 209 or 210
> >> >> version it needed helper program (NetwokrManager, connman, ip,
> >> >> ifconfig, etc.) to do it. Now it includes networkd, but you need to
> >> >> set up .network files (like .service files) to configure it. See [1].
> >> >>
> >> >> > So we have made some progress, but still a long way to go yet.  Note
> >> >> > also, that I am not booting into a display manager, just a regular
> >> >> > console.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What a lot of work just to get the system booted!
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, you have a setup that is not, by any means, simple. Also, in my
> >> >> experience old LVM configurations seem to cause a lot of troubles to
> >> >> bring to what systemd expects.
> >> >>
> >> >> John, could you also post here your kernel config? Those cgroups
> >> >> errors *may* be related to some missing functionality from the kernel.
> >>
> >> [snip kernel config]
> >>
> >> John, your kernel is incorrectly configured to be used by systemd.
> >> When you installed systemd, a warning should have appeared about some
> >> missing configure options; you either didn't saw or ignored those
> >> warnings. Install systemd again so you can see them.
> >>
> >> From what I can tell, you are missing *AT LEAST* the following options:
> >>
> >> CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS
> > configured as a module.
> >
> >> CONFIG_DMIID
> >
> > set to Y
> >
> >> CONFIG_FANOTIFY
> > set to y
> >
> >> CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER
> > set to y
> >
> >
> >> CONFIG_PROC_FS
> > set to y
> >
> >> CONFIG_SYSFS
> > set to y
> 
> I beg your pardon; GMail cut the config file and I didn't notice.
> 
> Well then, please send me privately the output from journalctl -b.
I did find one error so far, I had network@.eth0 and eth2 when I should
have had network@eth0 and eth2 -- thanks to Stefan.

I will send you what logs I have.

Thanks.

> 
> Regards.
> -- 
> Canek Peláez Valdés
> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
> 

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:11 PM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM,   wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >> I don't understand the current situation .So now you get ALL your
>> >> volumes activated, or not?
>> >
>> > Yep, they are all activated and they all get mounted.
>>
>> Cool, one problem less.
>>
>> >> > Now for some systemd problems.  The root file system was read only when
>> >> > I logged in, but I could remount it rw -- not sure why this was
>> >> > happening.
>> >>
>> >> Set systemd.log_level=debug in your command line, and post the exit
>> >> from journalctl -b.
>> >
>> > I had debug in the command line by itself, would that make the correct
>> > log_level?  The file is quite large, should I send it to you privately?
>>
>> I don't think is necessary, I may have found the real problem (see below).
>>
>> >> >  Some units did start, but most did not.  Whenever I tried to
>> >> > start one manually, I got a message like the following:
>> [snip]
>> >> > No matter what unit I tried to start I would get such a  message about
>> >> > the service.mount.
>> >>
>> >> That sounds like a problem with the cgroups hierarchy (which uses a
>> >> virtual filesystem). I don't remember seeing a problem like that
>> >> before.
>> >>
>> >> > Also, even though my network names were correct, they did not come up,
>> >> > but I will try to look in the logs to see why not.
>> > I wrote a service file to start my network adaptors, here it is:
>> > network@.service
>> >
>> >
>> > [Unit]
>> > Description=Network Connectivity for %i
>> > Wants=network.target
>> > Before=network.target
>> > BindsTo=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
>> > After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
>> > [Service]
>> > Type=oneshot
>> > RemainAfterExit=yes
>> > EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network@%i
>> > ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i up
>> > ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip addr add ${address}/${netmask} broadcast 
>> > ${broadcast} dev %i
>> > ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -n ${gateway} && /usr/bin/ip route add 
>> > default via
>> > ${gateway}'
>> > ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -f /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh&&/bin/bash  
>> > /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh
>> > ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip addr flush dev %i
>> > ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i down
>> > [Install]
>> > WantedBy=network.target
>>
>> Did you enabled network@ifaca.service? Also, WantedBy=network.target
>> doesn't do what you probably think it does (check [1]... and BTW, I
>> forgot my last footnote, is now on [2]).
>>
>> I would use WantedBy=multi-user.target.
>>
>> >> systemd will not (AFAIK) start your network, and before the 209 or 210
>> >> version it needed helper program (NetwokrManager, connman, ip,
>> >> ifconfig, etc.) to do it. Now it includes networkd, but you need to
>> >> set up .network files (like .service files) to configure it. See [1].
>> >>
>> >> > So we have made some progress, but still a long way to go yet.  Note
>> >> > also, that I am not booting into a display manager, just a regular
>> >> > console.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > What a lot of work just to get the system booted!
>> >>
>> >> Well, you have a setup that is not, by any means, simple. Also, in my
>> >> experience old LVM configurations seem to cause a lot of troubles to
>> >> bring to what systemd expects.
>> >>
>> >> John, could you also post here your kernel config? Those cgroups
>> >> errors *may* be related to some missing functionality from the kernel.
>>
>> [snip kernel config]
>>
>> John, your kernel is incorrectly configured to be used by systemd.
>> When you installed systemd, a warning should have appeared about some
>> missing configure options; you either didn't saw or ignored those
>> warnings. Install systemd again so you can see them.
>>
>> From what I can tell, you are missing *AT LEAST* the following options:
>>
>> CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS
> configured as a module.
>
>> CONFIG_DMIID
>
> set to Y
>
>> CONFIG_FANOTIFY
> set to y
>
>> CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER
> set to y
>
>
>> CONFIG_PROC_FS
> set to y
>
>> CONFIG_SYSFS
> set to y

I beg your pardon; GMail cut the config file and I didn't notice.

Well then, please send me privately the output from journalctl -b.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM,   wrote:
> [snip]
> >> I don't understand the current situation .So now you get ALL your
> >> volumes activated, or not?
> >
> > Yep, they are all activated and they all get mounted.
> 
> Cool, one problem less.
> 
> >> > Now for some systemd problems.  The root file system was read only when
> >> > I logged in, but I could remount it rw -- not sure why this was
> >> > happening.
> >>
> >> Set systemd.log_level=debug in your command line, and post the exit
> >> from journalctl -b.
> >
> > I had debug in the command line by itself, would that make the correct
> > log_level?  The file is quite large, should I send it to you privately?
> 
> I don't think is necessary, I may have found the real problem (see below).
> 
> >> >  Some units did start, but most did not.  Whenever I tried to
> >> > start one manually, I got a message like the following:
> [snip]
> >> > No matter what unit I tried to start I would get such a  message about
> >> > the service.mount.
> >>
> >> That sounds like a problem with the cgroups hierarchy (which uses a
> >> virtual filesystem). I don't remember seeing a problem like that
> >> before.
> >>
> >> > Also, even though my network names were correct, they did not come up,
> >> > but I will try to look in the logs to see why not.
> > I wrote a service file to start my network adaptors, here it is:
> > network@.service
> >
> >
> > [Unit]
> > Description=Network Connectivity for %i
> > Wants=network.target
> > Before=network.target
> > BindsTo=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> > After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> > [Service]
> > Type=oneshot
> > RemainAfterExit=yes
> > EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network@%i
> > ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i up
> > ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip addr add ${address}/${netmask} broadcast ${broadcast} 
> > dev %i
> > ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -n ${gateway} && /usr/bin/ip route add default 
> > via
> > ${gateway}'
> > ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -f /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh&&/bin/bash  
> > /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh
> > ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip addr flush dev %i
> > ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i down
> > [Install]
> > WantedBy=network.target
> 
> Did you enabled network@ifaca.service? Also, WantedBy=network.target
> doesn't do what you probably think it does (check [1]... and BTW, I
> forgot my last footnote, is now on [2]).
> 
> I would use WantedBy=multi-user.target.
> 
> >> systemd will not (AFAIK) start your network, and before the 209 or 210
> >> version it needed helper program (NetwokrManager, connman, ip,
> >> ifconfig, etc.) to do it. Now it includes networkd, but you need to
> >> set up .network files (like .service files) to configure it. See [1].
> >>
> >> > So we have made some progress, but still a long way to go yet.  Note
> >> > also, that I am not booting into a display manager, just a regular
> >> > console.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What a lot of work just to get the system booted!
> >>
> >> Well, you have a setup that is not, by any means, simple. Also, in my
> >> experience old LVM configurations seem to cause a lot of troubles to
> >> bring to what systemd expects.
> >>
> >> John, could you also post here your kernel config? Those cgroups
> >> errors *may* be related to some missing functionality from the kernel.
> 
> [snip kernel config]
> 
> John, your kernel is incorrectly configured to be used by systemd.
> When you installed systemd, a warning should have appeared about some
> missing configure options; you either didn't saw or ignored those
> warnings. Install systemd again so you can see them.
> 
> From what I can tell, you are missing *AT LEAST* the following options:
> 
> CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS
configured as a module.

> CONFIG_DMIID

set to Y

> CONFIG_FANOTIFY
set to y

> CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER
set to y


> CONFIG_PROC_FS
set to y

> CONFIG_SYSFS
set to y

> 
> John, if you don't set them, systemd *CANNOT WORK PROPERLY*. They are
> mandatory. I'm surprised you are able to boot to a semi-working state.
> 
> Yes, migrating to systemd is a lot of work. But if you don't see (or
> ignore) your system messages, that work gets multiplied several times.
> 
> Reconfigure, recompile, and reinstall your kernel (don't forget to
> reinstall the modules!), regenerate your initramfs, update lilo (if I
> remember correctly, you need to run lilo -something-or-another every
> time you change kernel and/or initramfs), and try again.
> 
> Regards
> 
> [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/
> [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.network.html
> -- 
> Canek Peláez Valdés
> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
> 

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM,   wrote:
[snip]
>> I don't understand the current situation .So now you get ALL your
>> volumes activated, or not?
>
> Yep, they are all activated and they all get mounted.

Cool, one problem less.

>> > Now for some systemd problems.  The root file system was read only when
>> > I logged in, but I could remount it rw -- not sure why this was
>> > happening.
>>
>> Set systemd.log_level=debug in your command line, and post the exit
>> from journalctl -b.
>
> I had debug in the command line by itself, would that make the correct
> log_level?  The file is quite large, should I send it to you privately?

I don't think is necessary, I may have found the real problem (see below).

>> >  Some units did start, but most did not.  Whenever I tried to
>> > start one manually, I got a message like the following:
[snip]
>> > No matter what unit I tried to start I would get such a  message about
>> > the service.mount.
>>
>> That sounds like a problem with the cgroups hierarchy (which uses a
>> virtual filesystem). I don't remember seeing a problem like that
>> before.
>>
>> > Also, even though my network names were correct, they did not come up,
>> > but I will try to look in the logs to see why not.
> I wrote a service file to start my network adaptors, here it is:
> network@.service
>
>
> [Unit]
> Description=Network Connectivity for %i
> Wants=network.target
> Before=network.target
> BindsTo=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> [Service]
> Type=oneshot
> RemainAfterExit=yes
> EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network@%i
> ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i up
> ExecStart=/usr/bin/ip addr add ${address}/${netmask} broadcast ${broadcast} 
> dev %i
> ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -n ${gateway} && /usr/bin/ip route add default 
> via
> ${gateway}'
> ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'test -f /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh&&/bin/bash  
> /etc/conf.d/postup@%i.sh
> ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip addr flush dev %i
> ExecStop=/usr/bin/ip link set dev %i down
> [Install]
> WantedBy=network.target

Did you enabled network@ifaca.service? Also, WantedBy=network.target
doesn't do what you probably think it does (check [1]... and BTW, I
forgot my last footnote, is now on [2]).

I would use WantedBy=multi-user.target.

>> systemd will not (AFAIK) start your network, and before the 209 or 210
>> version it needed helper program (NetwokrManager, connman, ip,
>> ifconfig, etc.) to do it. Now it includes networkd, but you need to
>> set up .network files (like .service files) to configure it. See [1].
>>
>> > So we have made some progress, but still a long way to go yet.  Note
>> > also, that I am not booting into a display manager, just a regular
>> > console.
>> >
>> >
>> > What a lot of work just to get the system booted!
>>
>> Well, you have a setup that is not, by any means, simple. Also, in my
>> experience old LVM configurations seem to cause a lot of troubles to
>> bring to what systemd expects.
>>
>> John, could you also post here your kernel config? Those cgroups
>> errors *may* be related to some missing functionality from the kernel.

[snip kernel config]

John, your kernel is incorrectly configured to be used by systemd.
When you installed systemd, a warning should have appeared about some
missing configure options; you either didn't saw or ignored those
warnings. Install systemd again so you can see them.

>From what I can tell, you are missing *AT LEAST* the following options:

CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS
CONFIG_DMIID
CONFIG_FANOTIFY
CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER
CONFIG_PROC_FS
CONFIG_SYSFS

John, if you don't set them, systemd *CANNOT WORK PROPERLY*. They are
mandatory. I'm surprised you are able to boot to a semi-working state.

Yes, migrating to systemd is a lot of work. But if you don't see (or
ignore) your system messages, that work gets multiplied several times.

Reconfigure, recompile, and reinstall your kernel (don't forget to
reinstall the modules!), regenerate your initramfs, update lilo (if I
remember correctly, you need to run lilo -something-or-another every
time you change kernel and/or initramfs), and try again.

Regards

[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/
[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.network.html
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:46 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
>> > Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
>> >
>> >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
>> >
>> > phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ...
>> > Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd?
>> >
>> > Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old.
>>
>> It doesn't matter, at least in theory systemd works with linux-3.0.
>>
>> John, could you please send the output from dracut --print-cmdline? In
>> my case, it lists *ALL* my lvms, and (I think) therefore all of them
>> are mounted.
>>
>> Since your lilo.conf only lists rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-root and
>> rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-usr, I think that would explain why it
>> doesn't mount the others.
>>
>> If dracut --print-cmdline doesn't print the others, could you try to
>> boot with rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/audio in the kernel command line
>> specified in your lilo.conf? If after booting /audio is mounted, then
>> I think we have found the problem. We'll need just to figure out why
>> dracut --print-cmdline does not print the other lvms.
>>
>> Also, could you try to generate your initramfs again, but this time
>> with add_dracutmodules+="systemd lvm"?
> Also, when I booted up, the systemd started a user slice and a new copy
> of systemd in the slice -- whic I think I don't want -- is this normal?

Yes: every user session gets its own cgroup and systemd --user
instance. You can track them with loginctl.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:53 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
>> > Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
>> >
>> >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
>> >
>> > phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ...
>> > Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd?
>> >
>> > Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old.
>>
>> It doesn't matter, at least in theory systemd works with linux-3.0.
>>
>> John, could you please send the output from dracut --print-cmdline? In
>> my case, it lists *ALL* my lvms, and (I think) therefore all of them
>> are mounted.
>>
>> Since your lilo.conf only lists rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-root and
>> rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-usr, I think that would explain why it
>> doesn't mount the others.
>>
>> If dracut --print-cmdline doesn't print the others, could you try to
>> boot with rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/audio in the kernel command line
>> specified in your lilo.conf? If after booting /audio is mounted, then
>> I think we have found the problem. We'll need just to figure out why
>> dracut --print-cmdline does not print the other lvms.
>>
>> Also, could you try to generate your initramfs again, but this time
>> with add_dracutmodules+="systemd lvm"?
> The secret to activate all the volumes, is to specify the volume groups
> instead of each volume -- that got them all activated, but systemd still
> is not working well.  The print-cmdline still just prints the volumes
> necessary to mount the root and user file systems, which makes sense,
> but why the rest of them do not activate, I have no clue.

I don't understand the current situation .So now you get ALL your
volumes activated, or not?

> Now for some systemd problems.  The root file system was read only when
> I logged in, but I could remount it rw -- not sure why this was
> happening.

Set systemd.log_level=debug in your command line, and post the exit
from journalctl -b.

>  Some units did start, but most did not.  Whenever I tried to
> start one manually, I got a message like the following:
> I wrote
> systemctl start /usr/lib/systemd/system/ntpd.service and got the error
> that it was unable to start because
> it could not find ntpd.service.mount:]
> May 16 01:59:52 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Failed to load configuration
> for usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount: No such file or directory
> May 16 01:59:52 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Trying to enqueue job
> usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount/start/replace
> May 16 01:59:53 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Sent message type=error
> sender=n/a destination=n/a object=n/a interface=n/a member=n/a cookie=1
> reply_cookie=1 erro\r=Unit usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount
> failed to load: No such file or directory.
> May 16 01:59:53 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Failed to process message
> [type=method_call sender=n/a path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1
> interface=org.freedesktop.sys\temd1.Manager member=StartUnit
> signature=ss]: Unit usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount failed to
> load: No such file or directory.
>
> No matter what unit I tried to start I would get such a  message about
> the service.mount.

That sounds like a problem with the cgroups hierarchy (which uses a
virtual filesystem). I don't remember seeing a problem like that
before.

> Also, even though my network names were correct, they did not come up,
> but I will try to look in the logs to see why not.

systemd will not (AFAIK) start your network, and before the 209 or 210
version it needed helper program (NetwokrManager, connman, ip,
ifconfig, etc.) to do it. Now it includes networkd, but you need to
set up .network files (like .service files) to configure it. See [1].

> So we have made some progress, but still a long way to go yet.  Note
> also, that I am not booting into a display manager, just a regular
> console.
>
>
> What a lot of work just to get the system booted!

Well, you have a setup that is not, by any means, simple. Also, in my
experience old LVM configurations seem to cause a lot of troubles to
bring to what systemd expects.

John, could you also post here your kernel config? Those cgroups
errors *may* be related to some missing functionality from the kernel.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> > Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> >
> >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
> >
> > phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ...
> > Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd?
> >
> > Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old.
> 
> It doesn't matter, at least in theory systemd works with linux-3.0.
> 
> John, could you please send the output from dracut --print-cmdline? In
> my case, it lists *ALL* my lvms, and (I think) therefore all of them
> are mounted.
> 
> Since your lilo.conf only lists rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-root and
> rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-usr, I think that would explain why it
> doesn't mount the others.
> 
> If dracut --print-cmdline doesn't print the others, could you try to
> boot with rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/audio in the kernel command line
> specified in your lilo.conf? If after booting /audio is mounted, then
> I think we have found the problem. We'll need just to figure out why
> dracut --print-cmdline does not print the other lvms.
> 
> Also, could you try to generate your initramfs again, but this time
> with add_dracutmodules+="systemd lvm"?
Also, when I booted up, the systemd started a user slice and a new copy
of systemd in the slice -- whic I think I don't want -- is this normal?
-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.05.2014 12:53, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:

> Now for some systemd problems.  The root file system was read only when
> I logged in, but I could remount it rw -- not sure why this was
> happening.  Some units did start, but most did not.  

Maybe you only got into emergency mode?

> Also, even though my network names were correct, they did not come up,
> but I will try to look in the logs to see why not.
> 
> So we have made some progress, but still a long way to go yet.  Note
> also, that I am not booting into a display manager, just a regular
> console.
> 
> 
> What a lot of work just to get the system booted!

Oh yes! very complex stuff all around.

If you want send me the log off-list, I am curious to read through it.
This really gets a challenge here ;-)

Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> > Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> >
> >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
> >
> > phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ...
> > Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd?
> >
> > Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old.
> 
> It doesn't matter, at least in theory systemd works with linux-3.0.
> 
> John, could you please send the output from dracut --print-cmdline? In
> my case, it lists *ALL* my lvms, and (I think) therefore all of them
> are mounted.
> 
> Since your lilo.conf only lists rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-root and
> rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-usr, I think that would explain why it
> doesn't mount the others.
> 
> If dracut --print-cmdline doesn't print the others, could you try to
> boot with rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/audio in the kernel command line
> specified in your lilo.conf? If after booting /audio is mounted, then
> I think we have found the problem. We'll need just to figure out why
> dracut --print-cmdline does not print the other lvms.
> 
> Also, could you try to generate your initramfs again, but this time
> with add_dracutmodules+="systemd lvm"?
The secret to activate all the volumes, is to specify the volume groups
instead of each volume -- that got them all activated, but systemd still
is not working well.  The print-cmdline still just prints the volumes
necessary to mount the root and user file systems, which makes sense,
but why the rest of them do not activate, I have no clue.

Now for some systemd problems.  The root file system was read only when
I logged in, but I could remount it rw -- not sure why this was
happening.  Some units did start, but most did not.  Whenever I tried to
start one manually, I got a message like the following:
I wrote
systemctl start /usr/lib/systemd/system/ntpd.service and got the error
that it was unable to start because
it could not find ntpd.service.mount:]
May 16 01:59:52 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Failed to load configuration
for usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount: No such file or directory
May 16 01:59:52 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Trying to enqueue job
usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount/start/replace
May 16 01:59:53 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Sent message type=error
sender=n/a destination=n/a object=n/a interface=n/a member=n/a cookie=1
reply_cookie=1 erro\r=Unit usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount
failed to load: No such file or directory.
May 16 01:59:53 ccs kernel: <31>systemd[1]: Failed to process message
[type=method_call sender=n/a path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1
interface=org.freedesktop.sys\temd1.Manager member=StartUnit
signature=ss]: Unit usr-lib-systemd-system-ntpd.service.mount failed to
load: No such file or directory.

No matter what unit I tried to start I would get such a  message about
the service.mount.

Also, even though my network names were correct, they did not come up,
but I will try to look in the logs to see why not.

So we have made some progress, but still a long way to go yet.  Note
also, that I am not booting into a display manager, just a regular
console.


What a lot of work just to get the system booted!

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
>
>> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
>
> phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ...
> Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd?
>
> Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old.

It doesn't matter, at least in theory systemd works with linux-3.0.

John, could you please send the output from dracut --print-cmdline? In
my case, it lists *ALL* my lvms, and (I think) therefore all of them
are mounted.

Since your lilo.conf only lists rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-root and
rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/64-usr, I think that would explain why it
doesn't mount the others.

If dracut --print-cmdline doesn't print the others, could you try to
boot with rd.lvm.lv=linux-files/audio in the kernel command line
specified in your lilo.conf? If after booting /audio is mounted, then
I think we have found the problem. We'll need just to figure out why
dracut --print-cmdline does not print the other lvms.

Also, could you try to generate your initramfs again, but this time
with add_dracutmodules+="systemd lvm"?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:

> Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> 
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo
> 
> phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ...
> Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd?
> 
> Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old.

I did recompile a number of times, but for now I have to stick with this
one.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:

> image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo

phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ...
Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd?

Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old.

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:39 AM,   wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >> >
> >> > Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
> >> > had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
> >> > When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
> >> > lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
> >> > line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
> >> > on using the predictable network names, even though I have
> >> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
> >> > /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
> >> > me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
> >> > emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
> >> > some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
> >>
> >> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> >> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> >> changed from the previous version to the current one.
> >>
> >> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> >> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> >> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> >> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
> >>
> >> 90crypt.conf
> >> 90lvm.conf
> >> 90mdraid.conf
> >> base.conf
> >>
> >> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
> >>
> >> 90lvm.conf
> >>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
> >>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
> >>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> >>
> >> 90mdraid.conf
> >>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
> >>
> >> base.conf
> >>ro
> >>
> >> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
> >>
> >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> >> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> >> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
> >>
> >> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> >> perfectly with the latest dracut version.
> >>
> >> The thing is, I *ALWAYS* use the -H (host only) option, so it was my
> >> understanding that the command line should be automatically generated,
> >> and it was on 036, but now it doesn't in 037. I think that's a bug.
> >>
> >> John, with respect to your case: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline"
> >> to get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate
> >> your initramfs?
> >
> > I did not try the -H, I may test with that later.
> >
> >
> > I did look at the --print-cmdline and copied the volumes they mentioned,
> > but I have other lvm volumes in my fstab and none of them were activated,
> > only the ones I specified in the command line!  This is where I have run
> > into problems.  I have quite a few lvms, I want them all activated!
> 
> I just have /, /boot, /usr and /home (encrypted) as lvms, but all are 
> activated.
> 
> > Also, since I wrote the last message, I have been looking at the
> > journalctl output and discovered a couple of things which I would like
> > some help on, but getting the lvms to work is more important.
> >
> > First, whatever happened to DefaultControllers -- I want to disable
> > those cpu hierarchies, but that option seems to have disappeared without
> > a trace, although you can google and see it in some documentation.
> 
> That went away with the new cgroup handling that is being coordinated
> between systemd and the kernel:
> 
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=7ac807320a7416463d7ff3ef6ede574863a601c5
> 
> > The keyword also was not accepted in an install section I have, what is
> > the matter with that?  I want to use my sysklogd for my syslog, how can
> > I use that with systemd?
> 
> I think you can do that with systemd.log_target=kmsg in the kernel command 
> line.
> 
> > Thanks so much for all your help on these things.
> 
> John, could you please include here the output of lsblk, your fstab,
> your dracut.conf, and your lilo.conf?

output of lsblk:
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda  8:00 931.5G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:10 3G  0 part /boot
├─sda2   8:20  1000M  0 part /mnt/oldgentoo
└─sda3   8:30 927.6G  0 part 
  ├─linux--files-64--root  253:00 3G  0 lvm  /
  ├─linux--files-swap  253:10 2G  0 lvm  [SWAP]
  ├─linux--files-64--usr   253:2065G  0 lvm  /usr
  ├─linux--files-usr--src  253:3035G  0 lvm  /usr/src
  ├─linux--files-tmp   253:4010G  0 lvm  /tmp
  ├─linux--files-64--var   253:5020G  0 lvm  /var
  ├─linux--files-home  253:6030G  0 lvm  /home
  ├─linux--files-audio 253:70   990G  0 lvm  

Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 20:23, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:

> John, could you please include here the output of lsblk, your fstab,
> your dracut.conf, and your lilo.conf?

.. I agree! it's hard to keep track and overview in here :-)




Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:39 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >
>> > Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
>> > had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
>> > When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
>> > lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
>> > line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
>> > on using the predictable network names, even though I have
>> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
>> > /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
>> > me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
>> > emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
>> > some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
>>
>> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
>> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
>> changed from the previous version to the current one.
>>
>> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
>> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
>> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
>> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
>>
>> 90crypt.conf
>> 90lvm.conf
>> 90mdraid.conf
>> base.conf
>>
>> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
>>
>> 90lvm.conf
>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>>
>> 90mdraid.conf
>>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
>>
>> base.conf
>>ro
>>
>> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
>>
>> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
>> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
>>
>> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
>> perfectly with the latest dracut version.
>>
>> The thing is, I *ALWAYS* use the -H (host only) option, so it was my
>> understanding that the command line should be automatically generated,
>> and it was on 036, but now it doesn't in 037. I think that's a bug.
>>
>> John, with respect to your case: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline"
>> to get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate
>> your initramfs?
>
> I did not try the -H, I may test with that later.
>
>
> I did look at the --print-cmdline and copied the volumes they mentioned,
> but I have other lvm volumes in my fstab and none of them were activated,
> only the ones I specified in the command line!  This is where I have run
> into problems.  I have quite a few lvms, I want them all activated!

I just have /, /boot, /usr and /home (encrypted) as lvms, but all are activated.

> Also, since I wrote the last message, I have been looking at the
> journalctl output and discovered a couple of things which I would like
> some help on, but getting the lvms to work is more important.
>
> First, whatever happened to DefaultControllers -- I want to disable
> those cpu hierarchies, but that option seems to have disappeared without
> a trace, although you can google and see it in some documentation.

That went away with the new cgroup handling that is being coordinated
between systemd and the kernel:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=7ac807320a7416463d7ff3ef6ede574863a601c5

> The keyword also was not accepted in an install section I have, what is
> the matter with that?  I want to use my sysklogd for my syslog, how can
> I use that with systemd?

I think you can do that with systemd.log_target=kmsg in the kernel command line.

> Thanks so much for all your help on these things.

John, could you please include here the output of lsblk, your fstab,
your dracut.conf, and your lilo.conf?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:48 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
>> > [snip]
>> >>
>> >> Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
>> >> had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
>> >> When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
>> >> lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
>> >> line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
>> >> on using the predictable network names, even though I have
>> >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
>> >> /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
>> >> me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
>> >> emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
>> >> some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
>> >
>> > OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
>> > and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
>> > changed from the previous version to the current one.
>> >
>> > So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
>> > dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
>> > The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
>> > files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
>> >
>> > 90crypt.conf
>> > 90lvm.conf
>> > 90mdraid.conf
>> > base.conf
>> >
>> > Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
>> >
>> > 90lvm.conf
>> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
>> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
>> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>> >
>> > 90mdraid.conf
>> >rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
>> >
>> > base.conf
>> >ro
>> >
>> > So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
>> >
>> > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
>> > rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>> > rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
>> >
>> > I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
>> > perfectly with the latest dracut version.
>>
>> I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
>> BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.
>>
>> So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
>> was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
>> documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
>> Gentoo should print an einfo message).
>>
>> Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
>> it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
>> get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
>> initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?
>
> I did not use --hostonly-cmdline because I have other parameters and
> wanted to keep everyting together -- should that make a difference?

I think so.

>  If
> I did use that then would I have append="" in lilo.conf  or the grub
> equivalemt?

Nothing; dracut would take care of everything (in theory).

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> changed from the previous version to the current one.
>
> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
>
> 90crypt.conf
> 90lvm.conf
> 90mdraid.conf
> base.conf
>
> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
>
> 90lvm.conf
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>
> 90mdraid.conf
>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
>
> base.conf
>ro
>
> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
>
> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> perfectly with the latest dracut version.
>
> The thing is, I *ALWAYS* use the -H (host only) option, so it was my
> understanding that the command line should be automatically generated,
> and it was on 036, but now it doesn't in 037. I think that's a bug.
>
> John, with respect to your case: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline"
> to get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate
> your initramfs?

There are two new options, "--hostonly-cmdline" (store kernel command
line arguments needed in the initramfs) and "--no-hostonly-cmdline"
(Do not store kernel command line arguments needed in the initramfs).



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Jc García
2014-05-15 6:38 GMT-06:00  :

>> Did you enable lvm2-lvmetad.service or socket (and set use_lvmetad=1 in
>> lvm.conf)?
> Yep, did not see that starting.
>
I have seen an odd behaviour regarding this sometimes, particulary
when I upgrade kernel, for some reason in my first reboot, my other
LVs (I have another 2 VGs) aren't activated, but on the second
reboot(Ctrl+Alt+Supr when it has got stuck), it works fine. this has
happened to me in the last 4 kernel upgrades.



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Jc García
2014-05-15 0:47 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :

> I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
> BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.
>

I don't know right now how host_cmdline got in my config(that was a
crazy day between dracut, systemd, and lvm documentations), who knows
where I saw it or if I mistyped it, anyway thanks for the correction.

> So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
> was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
> documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
> Gentoo should print an einfo message).
>
I agree, that notification in the ebulid would have saved trouble, and
I think it should be included since for sure many will run into these
problems in future.
So, would this qualify for a gentoo bug, and make the developer
include that notification?

Again, thanks for clarifying more the working of dracut.

> Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
> it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
> get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
> initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?
>
> Regards.
> --
> Canek Peláez Valdés
> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
>



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 14:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> 
>> Am 15.05.2014 13:50, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
>>> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  
 wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
>> had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
>> When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
>> lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
>> line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
>> on using the predictable network names, even though I have
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
>> me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
>> emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
>> some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
>
> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> changed from the previous version to the current one.
>
> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
>
> 90crypt.conf
> 90lvm.conf
> 90mdraid.conf
> base.conf
>
> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
>
> 90lvm.conf
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>
> 90mdraid.conf
>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
>
> base.conf
>ro
>
> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
>
> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> perfectly with the latest dracut version.

 I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
 BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.

 So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
 was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
 documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
 Gentoo should print an einfo message).

 Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
 it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
 get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
 initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?
>>>
>>> OK, I was looking through the journal output and I think the key to the
>>> lvm's not activating is the following:
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Got notification message for unit
>>> systemd-journald.service
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: Got notification
>>> message from PID 1750 (WATCHDOG=1...)
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: got WATCHDOG=1
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 2603 (lvm).
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2602 (lvm) died (code=exited,
>>> status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2603 (lvm) died (code=exited,
>>> status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2610 (lvm) died (code=exited,
>>> status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
>>> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Job
>>> dev-mapper-linux\x2d\x2dfiles\x2dportage.device/start timed out.
>>>
>>> So what is not installed?
>>
>> My search tells me that this might be a misinterpreted return code.
>> I might repeat myself but the thread gets quite large now:
>>
>> Did you enable lvm2-lvmetad.service or socket (and set use_lvmetad=1 in
>> lvm.conf)?
> Yep, did not see that starting.
> 
>>
>> I think you don't have to, I just ask to check.
>>
>> What release of lvm2, btw?
> 105-r2

Would you test downgrading to 2.02.104 for checking if that changes
something? Or 2.02.106 ...

I find various bugs on b.g.o. around lvm2 

Stefan






Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:

> Am 15.05.2014 13:50, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
> >>> [snip]
> 
>  Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
>  had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
>  When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
>  lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
>  line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
>  on using the predictable network names, even though I have
>  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
>  /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
>  me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
>  emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
>  some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
> >>>
> >>> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> >>> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> >>> changed from the previous version to the current one.
> >>>
> >>> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> >>> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> >>> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> >>> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
> >>>
> >>> 90crypt.conf
> >>> 90lvm.conf
> >>> 90mdraid.conf
> >>> base.conf
> >>>
> >>> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
> >>>
> >>> 90lvm.conf
> >>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
> >>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
> >>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> >>>
> >>> 90mdraid.conf
> >>>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
> >>>
> >>> base.conf
> >>>ro
> >>>
> >>> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
> >>>
> >>> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> >>> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> >>> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
> >>>
> >>> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> >>> perfectly with the latest dracut version.
> >>
> >> I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
> >> BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.
> >>
> >> So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
> >> was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
> >> documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
> >> Gentoo should print an einfo message).
> >>
> >> Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
> >> it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
> >> get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
> >> initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?
> > 
> > OK, I was looking through the journal output and I think the key to the
> > lvm's not activating is the following:
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Got notification message for unit
> > systemd-journald.service
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: Got notification
> > message from PID 1750 (WATCHDOG=1...)
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: got WATCHDOG=1
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 2603 (lvm).
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2602 (lvm) died (code=exited,
> > status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2603 (lvm) died (code=exited,
> > status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2610 (lvm) died (code=exited,
> > status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
> > 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Job
> > dev-mapper-linux\x2d\x2dfiles\x2dportage.device/start timed out.
> > 
> > So what is not installed?
> 
> My search tells me that this might be a misinterpreted return code.
> I might repeat myself but the thread gets quite large now:
> 
> Did you enable lvm2-lvmetad.service or socket (and set use_lvmetad=1 in
> lvm.conf)?
Yep, did not see that starting.

> 
> I think you don't have to, I just ask to check.
> 
> What release of lvm2, btw?
105-r2


> 
> > Also, for the first two lines, I get hundreds of thatpair of lines, how
> > can I prevent such.
> 
> The PID1 stuff ?

Nope, the notifications about journald and watchdog=1

> 
> > So, between the lvm problem and the udev renaming my eth0 devices these
> > are the key as to why things are going wrong -- with openrc udev is not
> > renaming eth0 at all.
> 
> We'll take care of eth0 as well as soon your box boots correctly ;-)
> 
> 
> Stefan

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:

> Am 15.05.2014 12:19, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> 
> > Sure, but what I was looking for was a way to start syslogd and klogd
> > using systemd -- I do have a socket option so they can listen on the
> > socket so that should be OK.
> 
> So you look for service files?
> 
> A quick google finds examples for these 2 daemons here:
> 
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/systemd.txt
> 
> If they work it would be great to file a bug for adding systemd unit
> files to app-admin/sysklogd at bugs.gentoo.org ( I didn't check if the
> ebuild brings unit-files but at least I see it doesn't have a systemd
> USE flag).


OK, I will check, I did not see that in my search last time.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 13:50, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
>>> [snip]

 Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
 had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
 When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
 lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
 line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
 on using the predictable network names, even though I have
 /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
 /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
 me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
 emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
 some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
>>>
>>> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
>>> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
>>> changed from the previous version to the current one.
>>>
>>> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
>>> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
>>> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
>>> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
>>>
>>> 90crypt.conf
>>> 90lvm.conf
>>> 90mdraid.conf
>>> base.conf
>>>
>>> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
>>>
>>> 90lvm.conf
>>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
>>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
>>>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>>>
>>> 90mdraid.conf
>>>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
>>>
>>> base.conf
>>>ro
>>>
>>> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
>>>
>>> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
>>> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>>> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
>>>
>>> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
>>> perfectly with the latest dracut version.
>>
>> I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
>> BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.
>>
>> So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
>> was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
>> documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
>> Gentoo should print an einfo message).
>>
>> Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
>> it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
>> get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
>> initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?
> 
> OK, I was looking through the journal output and I think the key to the
> lvm's not activating is the following:
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Got notification message for unit
> systemd-journald.service
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: Got notification
> message from PID 1750 (WATCHDOG=1...)
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: got WATCHDOG=1
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 2603 (lvm).
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2602 (lvm) died (code=exited,
> status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2603 (lvm) died (code=exited,
> status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2610 (lvm) died (code=exited,
> status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
> 4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Job
> dev-mapper-linux\x2d\x2dfiles\x2dportage.device/start timed out.
> 
> So what is not installed?

My search tells me that this might be a misinterpreted return code.
I might repeat myself but the thread gets quite large now:

Did you enable lvm2-lvmetad.service or socket (and set use_lvmetad=1 in
lvm.conf)?

I think you don't have to, I just ask to check.

What release of lvm2, btw?

> Also, for the first two lines, I get hundreds of thatpair of lines, how
> can I prevent such.

The PID1 stuff ?

> So, between the lvm problem and the udev renaming my eth0 devices these
> are the key as to why things are going wrong -- with openrc udev is not
> renaming eth0 at all.

We'll take care of eth0 as well as soon your box boots correctly ;-)


Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 12:19, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:

> Sure, but what I was looking for was a way to start syslogd and klogd
> using systemd -- I do have a socket option so they can listen on the
> socket so that should be OK.

So you look for service files?

A quick google finds examples for these 2 daemons here:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/systemd.txt

If they work it would be great to file a bug for adding systemd unit
files to app-admin/sysklogd at bugs.gentoo.org ( I didn't check if the
ebuild brings unit-files but at least I see it doesn't have a systemd
USE flag).

Stefan





Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
> > [snip]
> >>
> >> Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
> >> had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
> >> When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
> >> lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
> >> line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
> >> on using the predictable network names, even though I have
> >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
> >> /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
> >> me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
> >> emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
> >> some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
> >
> > OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> > and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> > changed from the previous version to the current one.
> >
> > So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> > dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> > The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> > files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
> >
> > 90crypt.conf
> > 90lvm.conf
> > 90mdraid.conf
> > base.conf
> >
> > Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
> >
> > 90lvm.conf
> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> >
> > 90mdraid.conf
> >rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
> >
> > base.conf
> >ro
> >
> > So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
> >
> > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> > rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> > rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
> >
> > I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> > perfectly with the latest dracut version.
> 
> I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
> BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.
> 
> So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
> was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
> documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
> Gentoo should print an einfo message).
> 
> Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
> it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
> get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
> initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?

OK, I was looking through the journal output and I think the key to the
lvm's not activating is the following:
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Got notification message for unit
systemd-journald.service
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: Got notification
message from PID 1750 (WATCHDOG=1...)
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: got WATCHDOG=1
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Received SIGCHLD from PID 2603 (lvm).
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2602 (lvm) died (code=exited,
status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2603 (lvm) died (code=exited,
status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Child 2610 (lvm) died (code=exited,
status=5/NOTINSSTALLED)
4 12:54:57 ccs systemd[1]: Job
dev-mapper-linux\x2d\x2dfiles\x2dportage.device/start timed out.

So what is not installed?

Also, for the first two lines, I get hundreds of thatpair of lines, how
can I prevent such.
So, between the lvm problem and the udev renaming my eth0 devices these
are the key as to why things are going wrong -- with openrc udev is not
renaming eth0 at all.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:

> Am 15.05.2014 11:39, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> 
> > I did not try the -H, I may test with that later.
> > 
> > 
> > I did look at the --print-cmdline and copied the volumes they mentioned,
> > but I have other lvm volumes in my fstab and none of them were activated,
> > only the ones I specified in the command line!  This is where I have run
> > into problems.  I have quite a few lvms, I want them all activated!
> 
> Sure. I remember having an extra lvm.service for systemd to have all the
> LVs activated ... with that unit-file it worked more reliably for me
> (maybe not needed since some time).
> 
> For sure that service file is only run *after* the initrd has
> found/activated/mounted your LVM-based root ... might be a workaround to
> specify the root-LV in the kernel command line (plus maybe "rd.auto
> rd.lvm=1" ?) and then let the service file activate the rest of the LVs.
> 
> Just to get you started at last ;-)
> 
> 
> > Also, since I wrote the last message, I have been looking at the
> > journalctl output and discovered a couple of things which I would like
> > some help on, but getting the lvms to work is more important.
> > 
> > First, whatever happened to DefaultControllers -- I want to disable
> > those cpu hierarchies, but that option seems to have disappeared without
> > a trace, although you can google and see it in some documentation.
> > 
> > The keyword also was not accepted in an install section I have, what is
> > the matter with that?
> 
> What keyword? I don't understand right now.
> 
> >  I want to use my sysklogd for my syslog, how can
> > I use that with systemd?
> 
> systemd's journal will be written to a socket if you configure it in
> /etc/systemd/journald.conf
> 
> I would check "man journald.conf" and the option:
> 
> ForwardToSyslog=
> 
> and then let your chosen log-daemon listen there.
> 
> IMO you should take a look at journalctl then anyway ... new concepts,
> but powerful features.

Sure, but what I was looking for was a way to start syslogd and klogd
using systemd -- I do have a socket option so they can listen on the
socket so that should be OK.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 11:39, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:

> I did not try the -H, I may test with that later.
> 
> 
> I did look at the --print-cmdline and copied the volumes they mentioned,
> but I have other lvm volumes in my fstab and none of them were activated,
> only the ones I specified in the command line!  This is where I have run
> into problems.  I have quite a few lvms, I want them all activated!

Sure. I remember having an extra lvm.service for systemd to have all the
LVs activated ... with that unit-file it worked more reliably for me
(maybe not needed since some time).

For sure that service file is only run *after* the initrd has
found/activated/mounted your LVM-based root ... might be a workaround to
specify the root-LV in the kernel command line (plus maybe "rd.auto
rd.lvm=1" ?) and then let the service file activate the rest of the LVs.

Just to get you started at last ;-)


> Also, since I wrote the last message, I have been looking at the
> journalctl output and discovered a couple of things which I would like
> some help on, but getting the lvms to work is more important.
> 
> First, whatever happened to DefaultControllers -- I want to disable
> those cpu hierarchies, but that option seems to have disappeared without
> a trace, although you can google and see it in some documentation.
> 
> The keyword also was not accepted in an install section I have, what is
> the matter with that?

What keyword? I don't understand right now.

>  I want to use my sysklogd for my syslog, how can
> I use that with systemd?

systemd's journal will be written to a socket if you configure it in
/etc/systemd/journald.conf

I would check "man journald.conf" and the option:

ForwardToSyslog=

and then let your chosen log-daemon listen there.

IMO you should take a look at journalctl then anyway ... new concepts,
but powerful features.

Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
> > [snip]
> >>
> >> Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
> >> had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
> >> When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
> >> lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
> >> line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
> >> on using the predictable network names, even though I have
> >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
> >> /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
> >> me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
> >> emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
> >> some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
> >
> > OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> > and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> > changed from the previous version to the current one.
> >
> > So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> > dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> > The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> > files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
> >
> > 90crypt.conf
> > 90lvm.conf
> > 90mdraid.conf
> > base.conf
> >
> > Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
> >
> > 90lvm.conf
> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
> >rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> >
> > 90mdraid.conf
> >rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
> >
> > base.conf
> >ro
> >
> > So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
> >
> > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> > rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> > rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
> >
> > I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> > perfectly with the latest dracut version.
> 
> I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
> BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.
> 
> So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
> was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
> documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
> Gentoo should print an einfo message).
> 
> Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
> it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
> get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
> initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?

I did not use --hostonly-cmdline because I have other parameters and
wanted to keep everyting together -- should that make a difference?  If
I did use that then would I have append="" in lilo.conf  or the grub
equivalemt?


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
> > had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
> > When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
> > lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
> > line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
> > on using the predictable network names, even though I have
> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
> > /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
> > me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
> > emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
> > some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
> 
> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> changed from the previous version to the current one.
> 
> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
> 
> 90crypt.conf
> 90lvm.conf
> 90mdraid.conf
> base.conf
> 
> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
> 
> 90lvm.conf
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> 
> 90mdraid.conf
>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
> 
> base.conf
>ro
> 
> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
> 
> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> perfectly with the latest dracut version.
> 
> The thing is, I *ALWAYS* use the -H (host only) option, so it was my
> understanding that the command line should be automatically generated,
> and it was on 036, but now it doesn't in 037. I think that's a bug.
> 
> John, with respect to your case: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline"
> to get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate
> your initramfs?

I did not try the -H, I may test with that later.


I did look at the --print-cmdline and copied the volumes they mentioned,
but I have other lvm volumes in my fstab and none of them were activated,
only the ones I specified in the command line!  This is where I have run
into problems.  I have quite a few lvms, I want them all activated!

Also, since I wrote the last message, I have been looking at the
journalctl output and discovered a couple of things which I would like
some help on, but getting the lvms to work is more important.

First, whatever happened to DefaultControllers -- I want to disable
those cpu hierarchies, but that option seems to have disappeared without
a trace, although you can google and see it in some documentation.

The keyword also was not accepted in an install section I have, what is
the matter with that?  I want to use my sysklogd for my syslog, how can
I use that with systemd?

Thanks so much for all your help on these things.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
>> had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
>> When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
>> lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
>> line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
>> on using the predictable network names, even though I have
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
>> me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
>> emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
>> some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.
>
> OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
> and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
> changed from the previous version to the current one.
>
> So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
> dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
> The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
> files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:
>
> 90crypt.conf
> 90lvm.conf
> 90mdraid.conf
> base.conf
>
> Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):
>
> 90lvm.conf
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
>rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
>
> 90mdraid.conf
>rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12
>
> base.conf
>ro
>
> So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
> rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
> rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"
>
> I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
> perfectly with the latest dracut version.

I'm an idiot; I didn't saw the documentation about hostonly_cmdline;
BTW Jc, you used host_cmdline, I think the former is the correct one.

So, to resume: there is no bug, is just that before hostonly_cmdline
was yes by default, and now is no by default. This change was
documented, but I failed to notice it (and I think the ebuild in
Gentoo should print an einfo message).

Anyway, I think that explains all my problems; John, I don't know if
it will solve yours. Again: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline" to
get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate your
initramfs? And finally, have you tried with --hostonly-cmdline?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM,   wrote:
[snip]
>
> Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
> had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
> When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
> lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
> line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
> on using the predictable network names, even though I have
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
> /etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
> me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
> emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
> some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.

OK, I was a little mystified about why dracut-036 worked on my system
and 037 didn't. Before I tried any workaround, I wanted to know what
changed from the previous version to the current one.

So I generated an initramfs with dracut-036-r4 and another one with
dracut-037-r1, and I tried to see what changed from one to the other.
The answer is surprisingly easy: in /etc/cmdline.d/, the following
files where in the 036-r4 version, but not in the 037-r4:

90crypt.conf
90lvm.conf
90mdraid.conf
base.conf

Te contents of those files are (90crypt.conf is empty):

90lvm.conf
   rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1
   rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4
   rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3

90mdraid.conf
   rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12

base.conf
   ro

So I just changed my /etc/default/grub file:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash
rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol1 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol4 rd.lvm.lv=vg/vol3
rd.md.uuid=f4a59e68:fbe4039f:a39fc86d:e9e91e12"

I regenerated my GRUB2 config, and now again my LVM test system works
perfectly with the latest dracut version.

The thing is, I *ALWAYS* use the -H (host only) option, so it was my
understanding that the command line should be automatically generated,
and it was on 036, but now it doesn't in 037. I think that's a bug.

John, with respect to your case: did you used "dracut --print-cmdline"
to get the command line? Also, have you tried to use -H to generate
your initramfs?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread wraeth
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On 14/05/14 19:40, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Well, I rebooted under dracut, but it did not do the lvmscan and so the job
> trying to find the root file system timed out after 90 seconds.  It took me
> to the emergency shell which I had specified, and I was able to do the
> lvm_scan and them magically root got mounted under sysroot, but I had no
> idea what to do next  to maybe get things going.

For what it's worth, I came across issues with my LVM/LUKS setup when I tried
dracut, and in my searches came across [1] (fedoraproject.org).  When dropped
to the dracut emergency shell, the idea is to locate and flag your root volume
in order to allow the boot process to continue.

It varies between setups, but the idea is that you make your root volume
accessible through whatever means (lvscan, cryptsetup, dm-crypt, whatever),
then symlink it to /dev/root.

Once that's done, you then `exit` the shell to allow the boot process to 
continue.

[1] http://is.gd/bmzmNu

Cheers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Jc García  wrote:
> > 2014-05-14 9:51 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :
> >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
> >>> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >>>
>  On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
>  [snip]
>  > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
> 
>  As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
>  also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].
> 
>  Please try again with dracut-036-r4.
> 
>  Regards.
> 
>  [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
>  [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
>  [3] 
>  http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
>  (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
> >>> portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
> >>> should I do that?
> >>
> >> You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable.
> >>
> >> However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try
> >> that version first?
> >>
> >> What I do know is that with dracut 037, me and Stefan ran intro troubles.
> >>
> > I described it as a 'workaround' in my first post, aware of the fact
> > that the behavior is not normal, but dracut acctually gives help
> > finding this workaround, wich is telling the kernel what LVs to use at
> > boot.
> 
> Sorry, I forgot about that.
> 
> I just tried my test LVM system with dracur-037-r1 and it didn't work.
> I have not tried yet your workaround, but there is obviously something
> fishy going on with the latest version of dracut; I would stay with
> 036-r4.
> 
> I will try your workaround, although my system is a little more
> complicated, since it uses RAID and LUKS besides LVM.

Well, the workaround sort of worked -- it went through the initrd -- I
had debug in the kernel command line, but it did not stop for nothing!
When it went to the real root, however it did not activate any of the
lvm volumes I had except for what I specified in the kernel command
line, causing things not to work well.  Also, I noticed that if insisted
on using the predictable network names, even though I have
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and
/etc/udev/rules.d/80-name-slot.rules which work fine in openrc to give
me back my eth* names.  So all in all, it was a mess and took me to an
emergency shell and that was the end of that.  I did eventually activate
some volumes by lvchange -aay, but obviously that would not work well.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 14.05.2014 18:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Jc García  wrote:
>>> 2014-05-14 9:51 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :
 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
>>
>> As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
>> also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].
>>
>> Please try again with dracut-036-r4.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
>> [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
>> [3] 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
>> (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
> portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
> should I do that?

 You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable.

 However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try
 that version first?

 What I do know is that with dracut 037, me and Stefan ran intro troubles.

>>> I described it as a 'workaround' in my first post, aware of the fact
>>> that the behavior is not normal, but dracut acctually gives help
>>> finding this workaround, wich is telling the kernel what LVs to use at
>>> boot.
>>
>> Sorry, I forgot about that.
>>
>> I just tried my test LVM system with dracur-037-r1 and it didn't work.
>> I have not tried yet your workaround, but there is obviously something
>> fishy going on with the latest version of dracut; I would stay with
>> 036-r4.
>>
>> I will try your workaround, although my system is a little more
>> complicated, since it uses RAID and LUKS besides LVM.
> 
> Here is what I got when I tried to emerge 036-r4 :
> 
> Script started on Wed 14 May 2014 11:45:56 AM EDT
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies  . done!
> [ebuild UD ] sys-kernel/dracut-036-r4 [037] USE="systemd -debug 
> (-selinux)" 250 kB
> [blocks B  ] >=sys-apps/systemd-210 (">=sys-apps/systemd-210" is blocking 
> sys-kernel/dracut-036-r4)
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 downgrade), Size of downloads: 250 kB
> Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)
> 
>  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>  * installed at the same time on the same system.
> 
>   (sys-apps/systemd-212-r4:0/2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by (gnome-base/gvfs-1.20.1:0/0::gnome, 
> installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-183:0/2= required by 
> (net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.10:0/0::gnome, installed)
> sys-apps/systemd:0/2=[abi_x86_64(-)] required by 
> (media-sound/pulseaudio-5.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-186:0= required by 
> (sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.37:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-206 required by 
> (sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-183:0/2= required by 
> (gnome-base/gnome-session-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-186:0/2= required by 
> (sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.37:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-208 required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.1.3:2/2::gentoo, 
> installed)
> sys-apps/systemd required by (net-wireless/bluez-5.18:0/3::gentoo, 
> installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by 
> (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-183:0= required by 
> (net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.10:0/0::gnome, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-44:0= required by (x11-misc/colord-1.2.0:0/2::gentoo, 
> installed)
> sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.8.2:0/0::gentoo, 
> installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-186:0=[pam] required by 
> (gnome-base/gdm-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-31 required by 
> (gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-44:0/2= required by 
> (x11-misc/colord-1.2.0:0/2::gentoo, installed)
> sys-apps/systemd required by @selected
> sys-apps/systemd required by 
> (gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
> >=sys-apps/systemd-31 required by 
> (gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.12.1:2/2::gnome, installed)
> 
> >=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/2[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,gudev,introspection?,static-libs(-)?]
>  (>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/2[abi_x86_64(-),gudev,introspection]) required by 
> (virtual/libgudev-208:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> 
> sys-apps/systemd:0=[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?]
>  (sys-apps/systemd:0=[abi_x86_64(-)]) required by 
> (media-sound/pulseaudio-5.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >=sys-apps/syste

Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Jc García
2014-05-14 10:18 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :

> I will try your workaround, although my system is a little more
> complicated, since it uses RAID and LUKS besides LVM.
That surely makes things more complicated, and I wouldn't expect
something that simple to make the 'workaround', I would try to see
what kernel command line dracut recommends, it might add something
concerning RAID, the same it does with LVM.



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Jc García  wrote:
> > 2014-05-14 9:51 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :
> >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
> >>> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >>>
>  On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
>  [snip]
>  > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
> 
>  As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
>  also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].
> 
>  Please try again with dracut-036-r4.
> 
>  Regards.
> 
>  [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
>  [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
>  [3] 
>  http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
>  (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
> >>> portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
> >>> should I do that?
> >>
> >> You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable.
> >>
> >> However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try
> >> that version first?
> >>
> >> What I do know is that with dracut 037, me and Stefan ran intro troubles.
> >>
> > I described it as a 'workaround' in my first post, aware of the fact
> > that the behavior is not normal, but dracut acctually gives help
> > finding this workaround, wich is telling the kernel what LVs to use at
> > boot.
> 
> Sorry, I forgot about that.
> 
> I just tried my test LVM system with dracur-037-r1 and it didn't work.
> I have not tried yet your workaround, but there is obviously something
> fishy going on with the latest version of dracut; I would stay with
> 036-r4.
> 
> I will try your workaround, although my system is a little more
> complicated, since it uses RAID and LUKS besides LVM.

Here is what I got when I tried to emerge 036-r4 :

Script started on Wed 14 May 2014 11:45:56 AM EDT

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  . done!
[ebuild UD ] sys-kernel/dracut-036-r4 [037] USE="systemd -debug (-selinux)" 
250 kB
[blocks B  ] >=sys-apps/systemd-210 (">=sys-apps/systemd-210" is blocking 
sys-kernel/dracut-036-r4)

Total: 1 package (1 downgrade), Size of downloads: 250 kB
Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (sys-apps/systemd-212-r4:0/2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by (gnome-base/gvfs-1.20.1:0/0::gnome, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-183:0/2= required by 
(net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.10:0/0::gnome, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2=[abi_x86_64(-)] required by 
(media-sound/pulseaudio-5.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-186:0= required by 
(sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.37:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-206 required by 
(sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-183:0/2= required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-session-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-186:0/2= required by 
(sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.37:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-208 required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.1.3:2/2::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (net-wireless/bluez-5.18:0/3::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by 
(sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-183:0= required by 
(net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.10:0/0::gnome, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-44:0= required by (x11-misc/colord-1.2.0:0/2::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.8.2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-186:0=[pam] required by 
(gnome-base/gdm-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-31 required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-44:0/2= required by (x11-misc/colord-1.2.0:0/2::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by @selected
sys-apps/systemd required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-31 required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.12.1:2/2::gnome, installed)

>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/2[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,gudev,introspection?,static-libs(-)?]
 (>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/2[abi_x86_64(-),gudev,introspection]) required by 
(virtual/libgudev-208:0/0::gentoo, installed)

sys-apps/systemd:0=[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?]
 (sys-apps/systemd:0=[abi_x86_64(-)]) required by 
(media-sound/pulseaudio-5.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-183:0= required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-session-3.12.1:0/0::gnome, installed)

>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/2[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_m

Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Jc García  wrote:
> 2014-05-14 9:51 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
>>> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>>>
 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
 [snip]
 > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple

 As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
 also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].

 Please try again with dracut-036-r4.

 Regards.

 [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
 [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
 [3] http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
 (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
>>> portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
>>> should I do that?
>>
>> You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable.
>>
>> However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try
>> that version first?
>>
>> What I do know is that with dracut 037, me and Stefan ran intro troubles.
>>
> I described it as a 'workaround' in my first post, aware of the fact
> that the behavior is not normal, but dracut acctually gives help
> finding this workaround, wich is telling the kernel what LVs to use at
> boot.

Sorry, I forgot about that.

I just tried my test LVM system with dracur-037-r1 and it didn't work.
I have not tried yet your workaround, but there is obviously something
fishy going on with the latest version of dracut; I would stay with
036-r4.

I will try your workaround, although my system is a little more
complicated, since it uses RAID and LUKS besides LVM.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Jc García
2014-05-14 9:51 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés :
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
>> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>> > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
>>>
>>> As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
>>> also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].
>>>
>>> Please try again with dracut-036-r4.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
>>> [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
>>> [3] http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
>>> (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
>> portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
>> should I do that?
>
> You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable.
>
> However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try
> that version first?
>
> What I do know is that with dracut 037, me and Stefan ran intro troubles.
>
I described it as a 'workaround' in my first post, aware of the fact
that the behavior is not normal, but dracut acctually gives help
finding this workaround, wich is telling the kernel what LVs to use at
boot.
> Regards.
> --
> Canek Peláez Valdés
> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
>



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
>>
>> As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
>> also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].
>>
>> Please try again with dracut-036-r4.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
>> [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
>> [3] http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
>> (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
> portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
> should I do that?

You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable.

However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try
that version first?

What I do know is that with dracut 037, me and Stefan ran intro troubles.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Jc García
2014-05-14 9:42 GMT-06:00  :
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
>>
>> As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
>> also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].
>>
>> Please try again with dracut-036-r4.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
>> [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
>> [3] http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
>> (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
> portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
> should I do that?
>
>
I'm using dracut 037-r1 and got it to work.
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>  John Covici
>  cov...@ccs.covici.com
>



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
> [snip]
> > I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
> 
> As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
> also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].
> 
> Please try again with dracut-036-r4.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
> [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
> [3] http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
> (for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 --
should I do that?


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM,   wrote:
[snip]
> I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple

As I told you in [1], the 037 version has problems with LVM; please
also check the thread in [2], specially the post in [3].

Please try again with dracut-036-r4.

Regards.

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274340
[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/274152
[3] http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg145647.html
(for some reason it doesn't appear in gmane).
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:43 AM,   wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM,   wrote:
> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
> >> >> [snip]
> >> >> > OK, I will try dracut,
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
> >> >> RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:
> >> >>
> >> >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
> >> >> GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"
> >> >>
> >> >> And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):
> >> >>
> >> >> add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
> >> >> add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
> >> >> fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"
> >> >>
> >> >> That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
> >> >> with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
> >> >> the man pages included.
> >> >>
> >> >> > but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
> >> >> > what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
> >> >> > thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, 
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > can I do instead?
> >> >>
> >> >> You can use bootchart:
> >> >>
> >> >> man 1 systemd-bootchart
> >> >>
> >> >> It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
> >> >> for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
> >> >> finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Canek Peláez Valdés
> >> >> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> >> >
> >> > Well, since I am unable to see, the graph would not do me any good, any
> >> > way to get it in text form?  What I want to see (and I know the order
> >> > may change) is which starts first and so on, to make sure targets,
> >> > etc. do what I want them to do.
> >>
> >> Try adding this to your kernel command line:
> >> systemd.log_target=console systemd.log_level=debug. It will add a lot
> >> of output, including what is being executed.
> >
> > I also in my kernel command line said rd.lvm=1 just to make sure.
> 
> John, which version of dracut are you using? Also, what was the
> command line you used to generate it?

I am using version 037 and the command line was very simple
dracut --force -M
and here is its output:
 Script started on Wed 14 May 2014 04:52:19 AM EDT
Executing: /usr/bin/dracut --force -M
00bootchart: Could not find command '/sbin/bootchartd'!
00dash: Could not find command '/bin/dash'!
50plymouth: Could not find command 'plymouthd'!
50plymouth: Could not find command 'plymouth'!
90btrfs: Could not find command 'btrfs'!
90dmraid: Could not find command 'dmraid'!
90mdraid: Could not find command 'mdadm'!
90multipath: Could not find command 'multipath'!
95fcoe-uefi: Could not find command 'dcbtool'!
95fcoe-uefi: Could not find command 'fipvlan'!
95fcoe-uefi: Could not find command 'lldpad'!
95iscsi: Could not find command 'iscsistart'!
95iscsi: Could not find command 'iscsi-iname'!
95nbd: Could not find command 'nbd-client'!
97biosdevname: Could not find command 'biosdevname'!
bash
caps
caps: does not work with systemd in the initramfs
modsign
dracut-install: ERROR: installing '/usr/bin/keyctl'
/usr/libexec/dracut-install -D /var/tmp/initramfs.dpEwDV /usr/bin/keyctl
i18n
network
crypt
dm
Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
Skipping udev rule: 60-persistent-storage-dm.rules
Skipping udev rule: 55-dm.rules
kernel-modules
Omitting driver i2o_scsi
lvm
Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
Skipping udev rule: 56-lvm.rules
Skipping udev rule: 60-persistent-storage-lvm.rules
cifs
nfs
resume
rootfs-block
terminfo
udev-rules
Skipping udev rule: 91-permissions.rules
Skipping udev rule: 80-drivers-modprobe.rules
systemd
usrmount
base
fs-lib
shutdown
*** Including modules done ***
*** Installing kernel module dependencies and firmware ***
*** Installing kernel module dependencies and firmware done ***
*** Resolving executable dependencies ***
*** Resolving executable dependencies done***
*** Stripping files ***
*** Stripping files done ***
*** Store current command line parameters ***
*** Creating image file ***
*** Creating image file done ***

Script done on Wed 14 May 2014 04:52:50 AM EDT



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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:43 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM,   wrote:
>> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
>> >> [snip]
>> >> > OK, I will try dracut,
>> >>
>> >> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
>> >> RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:
>> >>
>> >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
>> >> GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"
>> >>
>> >> And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):
>> >>
>> >> add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
>> >> add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
>> >> fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"
>> >>
>> >> That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
>> >> with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).
>> >>
>> >> Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
>> >> the man pages included.
>> >>
>> >> > but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
>> >> > what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
>> >> > thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
>> >> > can I do instead?
>> >>
>> >> You can use bootchart:
>> >>
>> >> man 1 systemd-bootchart
>> >>
>> >> It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
>> >> for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
>> >> finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
>> >>
>> >> Regards.
>> >> --
>> >> Canek Peláez Valdés
>> >> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
>> >
>> > Well, since I am unable to see, the graph would not do me any good, any
>> > way to get it in text form?  What I want to see (and I know the order
>> > may change) is which starts first and so on, to make sure targets,
>> > etc. do what I want them to do.
>>
>> Try adding this to your kernel command line:
>> systemd.log_target=console systemd.log_level=debug. It will add a lot
>> of output, including what is being executed.
>
> I also in my kernel command line said rd.lvm=1 just to make sure.

John, which version of dracut are you using? Also, what was the
command line you used to generate it?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Jc García
2014-05-14 3:40 GMT-06:00  :
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM,   wrote:
>> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
>> >> [snip]
>> >> > OK, I will try dracut,
>> >>
>> >> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
>> >> RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:
>> >>
>> >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
>> >> GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"
>> >>
>> >> And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):
>> >>
>> >> add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
>> >> add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
>> >> fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"
>> >>
>> >> That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
>> >> with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).
>> >>
>> >> Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
>> >> the man pages included.
>> >>
>> >> > but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
>> >> > what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
>> >> > thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
>> >> > can I do instead?
>> >>
>> >> You can use bootchart:
>> >>
>> >> man 1 systemd-bootchart
>> >>
>> >> It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
>> >> for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
>> >> finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
>> >>
>> >> Regards.
>> >> --
>> >> Canek Peláez Valdés
>> >> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
>> >
>> > Well, since I am unable to see, the graph would not do me any good, any
>> > way to get it in text form?  What I want to see (and I know the order
>> > may change) is which starts first and so on, to make sure targets,
>> > etc. do what I want them to do.
>>
>> Try adding this to your kernel command line:
>> systemd.log_target=console systemd.log_level=debug. It will add a lot
>> of output, including what is being executed.
>>
>> Everything is documented in the man page: man  1 systemd.
>
> Well, I rebooted under dracut, but it did not do the lvmscan and so the
> job trying to find the root file system timed out after 90 seconds.  It
> took me to the emergency shell which I had specified, and I was able to
> do the lvm_scan and them magically root got mounted under sysroot, but I
> had no idea what to do next  to maybe get things going.
>
> So how can I get dracut to do its lvm_scan -- I even added the line
> add_dracutmodules+="lvm"

This is a must if you are not running 'dracut --lvmconf'

> but no joy.
> I saved the rdsosreport.txt and if that is of any use, I can post it.
>
In the dracut manpage, I found the '--print-cmdline' argument , it
generates a suggested kernel command line  , I hadn't used it before,
but this what it printed:

rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/usr
rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/root
root=/dev/mapper/gentoovg-root rootflags=defaults rootfstype=ext4

So I guess, its neccesary to have this in the command line. At the
time I struggled for an entire day with the same timeout when my LVs
where not recognized, did research trial/error with dracut and
genkernel, got them both working, stayed with dracut because I liked
it, I tried to avoid this struggle for you on my first response, but
I see is going to take you longer...

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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Jc García
2014-05-14 3:43 GMT-06:00  :

> I also in my kernel command line said rd.lvm=1 just to make sure.
>

Have tried this too(only rd.lvm), until I didn't tell what to
recognize nothing was done, this might be a bug, but I forgot about it
.



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM,   wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >> > OK, I will try dracut,
> >>
> >> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
> >> RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:
> >>
> >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
> >> GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"
> >>
> >> And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):
> >>
> >> add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
> >> add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
> >> fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"
> >>
> >> That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
> >> with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).
> >>
> >> Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
> >> the man pages included.
> >>
> >> > but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
> >> > what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
> >> > thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
> >> > can I do instead?
> >>
> >> You can use bootchart:
> >>
> >> man 1 systemd-bootchart
> >>
> >> It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
> >> for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
> >> finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.
> >>
> >> > Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >> --
> >> Canek Peláez Valdés
> >> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> >
> > Well, since I am unable to see, the graph would not do me any good, any
> > way to get it in text form?  What I want to see (and I know the order
> > may change) is which starts first and so on, to make sure targets,
> > etc. do what I want them to do.
> 
> Try adding this to your kernel command line:
> systemd.log_target=console systemd.log_level=debug. It will add a lot
> of output, including what is being executed.

I also in my kernel command line said rd.lvm=1 just to make sure.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM,   wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >> > OK, I will try dracut,
> >>
> >> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
> >> RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:
> >>
> >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
> >> GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"
> >>
> >> And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):
> >>
> >> add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
> >> add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
> >> fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"
> >>
> >> That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
> >> with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).
> >>
> >> Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
> >> the man pages included.
> >>
> >> > but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
> >> > what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
> >> > thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
> >> > can I do instead?
> >>
> >> You can use bootchart:
> >>
> >> man 1 systemd-bootchart
> >>
> >> It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
> >> for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
> >> finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.
> >>
> >> > Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >> --
> >> Canek Peláez Valdés
> >> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> >
> > Well, since I am unable to see, the graph would not do me any good, any
> > way to get it in text form?  What I want to see (and I know the order
> > may change) is which starts first and so on, to make sure targets,
> > etc. do what I want them to do.
> 
> Try adding this to your kernel command line:
> systemd.log_target=console systemd.log_level=debug. It will add a lot
> of output, including what is being executed.
> 
> Everything is documented in the man page: man  1 systemd.

Well, I rebooted under dracut, but it did not do the lvmscan and so the
job trying to find the root file system timed out after 90 seconds.  It
took me to the emergency shell which I had specified, and I was able to
do the lvm_scan and them magically root got mounted under sysroot, but I
had no idea what to do next  to maybe get things going.

So how can I get dracut to do its lvm_scan -- I even added the line 
add_dracutmodules+="lvm"
but no joy.
I saved the rdsosreport.txt and if that is of any use, I can post it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread Jc García
2014-05-13 7:43 GMT-06:00  :
> Jc García  wrote:
>
>> 2014-05-12 21:46 GMT-06:00  :
>> > Hi.  Well, even with use_fstab=yes, it does not put one, just
>> > /etc/fstab.empty of 0 length -- how can I fix?
>> >
>> That is strange, never had this problem, actually adding this made it
>> work for me, I assume you actually used the ' "yes" ', might be
>> important for the syntax, I uncompressed my ramdisk a few minutes ago
>> to actually verify the fstab, and it is in fact included, might be
>> other parameters missing in cofiguration, all uncomented parameters in
>> my dracut.conf are these in case it might help you:
>>
>> logfile=/var/log/dracut.log
>> fileloglvl=6
>> add_dracutmodules+="lvm bash dm kernel-modules systemd"
>> lvmconf="yes"
>> use_fstab="yes"
>> host_cmdline="yes"
>> kernel_cmdline="cmdline..."
>>
>> And when generating I just simply run:
>> dracut --kver 'kernel_version'
>>
>> As you see my configuration is pretty simple, I suggest you to try
>> forcing the inclussion of fstab(extract, and re-compress the image),
>> to verify if it solves your booting problem, it might be a dracut
>> bug(tough it seems a relatively simple feature to be that prone to
>> bugs).
>
> hmmm, do we really need add_dracutmodules+="lvm bash dm kernel-modules
> systemd"
>

It's not necessary  indeed, the Idea was you to compare this with
yours, since its working here, for example bash is actually a thing of
mine wanting a nice shell even in the initrd. you include what fits
your needs.
>
> I had the fstab with and without the quotes,  but no difference.  Maybe
> I need to include the thing individually?
>
>
>
> --
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> How do
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>
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>



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread covici
Jc García  wrote:

> 2014-05-13 7:18 GMT-06:00  :
> >
> > Nope, dracut does things different, so I am still working on the kernel
> > command line.  My question was about the /etc/fstab.empty problem.
> >
> In the documentation it says, enabling this, uses the fstab instead of
>  /proc/self/mountinfo, when generating the image, it does not say it
> includes it, so I think that is working properly. Have you tried
> booting manually from a grub command line(I read you use lilo, I don't
> know if it has this feature, but the idea is manually write your
> kernel command line before boot ), this has helped me several times
> when finding booting problems, you can use anything with grub in it
> (livecd, usb, etc...) so you don't have to install it, in case you are
> not familiar with grub.

Well, if this is OK, then I can proceed, I thought that the systemd
generator needed the actual /etc/fstab file to generate the correct
mount events, so I was concerned that this would not happen, but maybe
the initrd does not need to do that so much.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread covici
Jc García  wrote:

> 2014-05-12 21:46 GMT-06:00  :
> > Hi.  Well, even with use_fstab=yes, it does not put one, just
> > /etc/fstab.empty of 0 length -- how can I fix?
> >
> That is strange, never had this problem, actually adding this made it
> work for me, I assume you actually used the ' "yes" ', might be
> important for the syntax, I uncompressed my ramdisk a few minutes ago
> to actually verify the fstab, and it is in fact included, might be
> other parameters missing in cofiguration, all uncomented parameters in
> my dracut.conf are these in case it might help you:
> 
> logfile=/var/log/dracut.log
> fileloglvl=6
> add_dracutmodules+="lvm bash dm kernel-modules systemd"
> lvmconf="yes"
> use_fstab="yes"
> host_cmdline="yes"
> kernel_cmdline="cmdline..."
> 
> And when generating I just simply run:
> dracut --kver 'kernel_version'
> 
> As you see my configuration is pretty simple, I suggest you to try
> forcing the inclussion of fstab(extract, and re-compress the image),
> to verify if it solves your booting problem, it might be a dracut
> bug(tough it seems a relatively simple feature to be that prone to
> bugs).

hmmm, do we really need add_dracutmodules+="lvm bash dm kernel-modules
systemd"


I had the fstab with and without the quotes,  but no difference.  Maybe
I need to include the thing individually?



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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread Jc García
2014-05-13 7:18 GMT-06:00  :
>
> Nope, dracut does things different, so I am still working on the kernel
> command line.  My question was about the /etc/fstab.empty problem.
>
In the documentation it says, enabling this, uses the fstab instead of
 /proc/self/mountinfo, when generating the image, it does not say it
includes it, so I think that is working properly. Have you tried
booting manually from a grub command line(I read you use lilo, I don't
know if it has this feature, but the idea is manually write your
kernel command line before boot ), this has helped me several times
when finding booting problems, you can use anything with grub in it
(livecd, usb, etc...) so you don't have to install it, in case you are
not familiar with grub.



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:

> Am 13.05.2014 14:29, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> 
> >> * What is the status now with dracut? The mentioned options ... I
> >> don't have them in my config (although my setup is now completely
> >> different from yours ... anyway).
> > 
> > I emerged it and want to use it to boot with systemd.
> 
> Did you configure dracut as Canek's examples show?
> Adding in the modules etc ?
> 
> Could you build the initramfs with it, matching your kernel?
> 
> Do you successfully use that initramfs with openrc then?
> 
> >> * grub-2, right?
> > 
> > Nope, lilo.
> 
> serious? Wow ... I have no experience with that combination ...
> 
> So you have something like:
> 
>  append = "quiet init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd"
> 
> in your lilo.conf and applied it ... ?

Nope, dracut does things different, so I am still working on the kernel
command line.  My question was about the /etc/fstab.empty problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread Jc García
2014-05-13 7:02 GMT-06:00 Jc García :
> 2014-05-12 21:46 GMT-06:00  :
>> Hi.  Well, even with use_fstab=yes, it does not put one, just
>> /etc/fstab.empty of 0 length -- how can I fix?
>>
> That is strange, never had this problem, actually adding this made it
> work for me, I assume you actually used the ' "yes" ', might be
> important for the syntax, I uncompressed my ramdisk a few minutes ago
> to actually verify the fstab, and it is in fact included, might be
> other parameters missing in cofiguration, all uncomented parameters in
> my dracut.conf are these in case it might help you:
>
Sorry I did a wrong cd(I still sleepy, is early morning here), I have
the same fstab.empty with nothing inside. so I'm lost here.



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread Jc García
2014-05-12 21:46 GMT-06:00  :
> Hi.  Well, even with use_fstab=yes, it does not put one, just
> /etc/fstab.empty of 0 length -- how can I fix?
>
That is strange, never had this problem, actually adding this made it
work for me, I assume you actually used the ' "yes" ', might be
important for the syntax, I uncompressed my ramdisk a few minutes ago
to actually verify the fstab, and it is in fact included, might be
other parameters missing in cofiguration, all uncomented parameters in
my dracut.conf are these in case it might help you:

logfile=/var/log/dracut.log
fileloglvl=6
add_dracutmodules+="lvm bash dm kernel-modules systemd"
lvmconf="yes"
use_fstab="yes"
host_cmdline="yes"
kernel_cmdline="cmdline..."

And when generating I just simply run:
dracut --kver 'kernel_version'

As you see my configuration is pretty simple, I suggest you to try
forcing the inclussion of fstab(extract, and re-compress the image),
to verify if it solves your booting problem, it might be a dracut
bug(tough it seems a relatively simple feature to be that prone to
bugs).



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.05.2014 14:29, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:

>> * What is the status now with dracut? The mentioned options ... I
>> don't have them in my config (although my setup is now completely
>> different from yours ... anyway).
> 
> I emerged it and want to use it to boot with systemd.

Did you configure dracut as Canek's examples show?
Adding in the modules etc ?

Could you build the initramfs with it, matching your kernel?

Do you successfully use that initramfs with openrc then?

>> * grub-2, right?
> 
> Nope, lilo.

serious? Wow ... I have no experience with that combination ...

So you have something like:

 append = "quiet init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd"

in your lilo.conf and applied it ... ?

Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:

> Am 13.05.2014 05:46, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
> 
> > Hi.  Well, even with use_fstab=yes, it does not put one, just
> > /etc/fstab.empty of 0 length -- how can I fix?
> 
> I didn't read the full thread yet ... but let me get that straight for
> me to understand the status:
> 
> * You want to have / and everything on LVM volumes (LVs) and /boot (not
> /boot/efi, right? No EFI here?) as a separate partition.

Correct.

> 
> Are you able to boot this via openrc?

Yes openrc works fine.

> 
> * What is the status now with dracut? The mentioned options ... I don't
> have them in my config (although my setup is now completely different
> from yours ... anyway).

I emerged it and want to use it to boot with systemd.

> 

 * Do you have systemd now installed in the default location?

Yes.

> 
> * global USE-flag "systemd" set? and recompiled stuff ... ?

Yes.

> 
> * grub-2, right?

Nope, lilo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 13.05.2014 05:46, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:

> Hi.  Well, even with use_fstab=yes, it does not put one, just
> /etc/fstab.empty of 0 length -- how can I fix?

I didn't read the full thread yet ... but let me get that straight for
me to understand the status:

* You want to have / and everything on LVM volumes (LVs) and /boot (not
/boot/efi, right? No EFI here?) as a separate partition.

Are you able to boot this via openrc?

* What is the status now with dracut? The mentioned options ... I don't
have them in my config (although my setup is now completely different
from yours ... anyway).

* Do you have systemd now installed in the default location?

* global USE-flag "systemd" set? and recompiled stuff ... ?

* grub-2, right?

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread covici
Jc García  wrote:

> 2014-05-12 4:15 GMT-06:00  :
> 
> > How can I do this, genkernel looks for its init before it mounts /usr
> > and genkernel-next will not mount the separate /usr at all.  My latest
> > initrd is from the very latest genkernel.
> >
> > But how to get a complete history of systemd actions in the order that
> > they are done, I thought the confirm_spawn would do this for me -- at
> > least for my initial debugging.
> >
> 
> I have had this trouble too, and a very similar setup than you, and
> after a few workarounds I got to boot with a genkernel and a dracut
> generated initramfs, so it can be done both ways, but i would
> recommend dracut, since is more straight forward in practice, and you
> can setup once and then just generate initramfs that surely will work.
> The most important part is your kernel boot comand line, giving
> instructions so your system specific lvm volumes (root, usr and var if
> separated). mine looks like this
> "rd.lvm rd.lvm.vg=gentoovg rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/root
> rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/usr root=/dev/mapper/gentoovg-root
> ccinit=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet"
> A little too long in my opinion, but works, and the rd.lvm.lv parts
> result redundant if rd.lvm.vg is already set, i think, it worked when
> I tested, but I kept the redundancy just in case.
> this can be setup in sevaral ways, directly when compiling the kernel,
> using dracut the config file, or the bootloader, I used dracut since I
> wanted to centralize the boot process configuration as much as
> possible.
> Also be sure that the lvm binaries are included in the initramfs, if
> you will be using dracut you would need to add to /etc/dracut.conf:
> 
> use_fstab="yes"
> host_cmdline="yes"
> kernel_cmdline="your_cmd_line"

Hi.  Well, even with use_fstab=yes, it does not put one, just
/etc/fstab.empty of 0 length -- how can I fix?


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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread covici
Jc García  wrote:

> 2014-05-12 10:22 GMT-06:00  :
> 
> > My kernel command line is like this:
> > init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/mapper/linux--files-64--root
> > udev video=uvesafb:1280x1024 speakup.synth=spkout vmalloc=256M dolvm
> > rootfstype=ext4 real_init=/sbin/systemd systemd.confirm_spawn=yes
> >
> > I thought the dolvm would take care of all lvm related stuff, I don't
> > understand the rd.lvm parts at all, I have never seen such.
> >
> I tried several times with only dolvm, but that didn't work for me,  I
> found the documentation for rd.lvm 'man 7 dracut.kernel', in the LVM
> section.

Ahhh, these are dracut specific, that is why I had never heard of them
before.  So I am off to read the dracut docs before I change anything!

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread Jc García
2014-05-12 10:22 GMT-06:00  :

> My kernel command line is like this:
> init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/mapper/linux--files-64--root
> udev video=uvesafb:1280x1024 speakup.synth=spkout vmalloc=256M dolvm
> rootfstype=ext4 real_init=/sbin/systemd systemd.confirm_spawn=yes
>
> I thought the dolvm would take care of all lvm related stuff, I don't
> understand the rd.lvm parts at all, I have never seen such.
>
I tried several times with only dolvm, but that didn't work for me,  I
found the documentation for rd.lvm 'man 7 dracut.kernel', in the LVM
section.



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:52 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > OK, I will try dracut,
>>
>> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
>> RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:
>>
>> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
>> GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"
>>
>> And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):
>>
>> add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
>> add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
>> fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"
>>
>> That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
>> with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).
>>
>> Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
>> the man pages included.
>>
>> > but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
>> > what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
>> > thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
>> > can I do instead?
>>
>> You can use bootchart:
>>
>> man 1 systemd-bootchart
>>
>> It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
>> for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
>> finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.
>>
>> > Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
>>
>> Regards.
>> --
>> Canek Peláez Valdés
>> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
>
> Well, since I am unable to see, the graph would not do me any good, any
> way to get it in text form?  What I want to see (and I know the order
> may change) is which starts first and so on, to make sure targets,
> etc. do what I want them to do.

Try adding this to your kernel command line:
systemd.log_target=console systemd.log_level=debug. It will add a lot
of output, including what is being executed.

Everything is documented in the man page: man  1 systemd.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
> [snip]
> > OK, I will try dracut,
> 
> I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
> RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
> GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"
> 
> And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):
> 
> add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
> add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
> fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"
> 
> That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
> with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).
> 
> Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
> the man pages included.
> 
> > but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
> > what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
> > thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
> > can I do instead?
> 
> You can use bootchart:
> 
> man 1 systemd-bootchart
> 
> It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
> for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
> finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.
> 
> > Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.
> 
> Regards.
> -- 
> Canek Peláez Valdés
> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias

Well, since I am unable to see, the graph would not do me any good, any
way to get it in text form?  What I want to see (and I know the order
may change) is which starts first and so on, to make sure targets,
etc. do what I want them to do.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM,   wrote:
[snip]
> OK, I will try dracut,

I hope it works with dracut. This is my kernel command line and
RAID/LVM related stuff from GRUB2:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet nosplash"
GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm mdraid1x"

And this is my dracut.conf (minus comments):

add_dracutmodules+="crypt lvm mdraid systemd"
add_drivers+="autofs4 ipv6 dm-crypt aes sha256"
fscks="umount mount /sbin/fsck* e2fsck"

That's it. I didn't touched anything else to make dracut+systemd work
with LVM and RAID (and LUKS, but that doesn't matter).

Also, dracut comes with extensive and very clear documentation; check
the man pages included.

> but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
> what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
> thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
> can I do instead?

You can use bootchart:

man 1 systemd-bootchart

It will produce a chart with all the processes, and how long it takes
for every one of them. But remember, the order depends on which one
finishes before, and that can change from boot to boot.

> Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:15 AM,   wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:22 AM,   wrote:
> >> > Hi.  I have been trying to get systemd to boot, but I have run into
> >> > several problems and need some help.  I am using everything but /boot as
> >> > lvm's, with a separate user partition.  I had to copy systemd to /sbin
> >> > because the initrd looks for the realinit too soon, but that is maybe
> >> > another matter.
> >>
> >> Moving systemd to /sbin sounds like it's not going to work. Run
> >> readelf -d /usr/lib/systemd/systemd; all the NEEDED libraries on
> >> /usr/lib should be available to the binary at the time it's being
> >> executed.
> >
> > How can I do this, genkernel looks for its init before it mounts /usr
> > and genkernel-next will not mount the separate /usr at all.  My latest
> > initrd is from the very latest genkernel.
> 
> With genkernel, I don't know; I never used it. On the other hand,
> dracut is designed to work with systemd; if you use the systemd USE
> flag and the systemd module, it even uses systemd *inside* the
> initramfs.
> 
> > But how to get a complete history of systemd actions in the order that
> > they are done, I thought the confirm_spawn would do this for me -- at
> > least for my initial debugging.
> 
> The problem obviously is not in systemd, but in the integration of
> genkernel+systemd. I repeat, I never used genkernel, so I don't know
> what you can do.
> 
> That being said, "get a complete history of systemd actions in the
> order that they are done" will not tell you much: systemd uses heavy
> parallelization, so in some runs the order in which actions are
> performed will be different from others.
> 
> The problem is that if systemd is installed into /usr/lib (which is
> Gentoo's case), then /usr should be mounted before systemd starts.
> That's responsibility of the initramfs, not of systemd, and the
> solution lies in the initramfs, not in systemd.
> 
> My only possible recommendation would be for you to try dracut.
> 
> Regards.
> -- 
> Canek Peláez Valdés
> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
> 

OK, I will try dracut, but I still want to know what systemd is doing,
what processes its spawning, etc.  -- how can I find this out -- I
thought to use the confirm_spawn, but it times out and keeps going, what
can I do instead?

Thanks people for all your responses, this is a great list.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread covici
Jc García  wrote:

> 2014-05-12 4:15 GMT-06:00  :
> 
> > How can I do this, genkernel looks for its init before it mounts /usr
> > and genkernel-next will not mount the separate /usr at all.  My latest
> > initrd is from the very latest genkernel.
> >
> > But how to get a complete history of systemd actions in the order that
> > they are done, I thought the confirm_spawn would do this for me -- at
> > least for my initial debugging.
> >
> 
> I have had this trouble too, and a very similar setup than you, and
> after a few workarounds I got to boot with a genkernel and a dracut
> generated initramfs, so it can be done both ways, but i would
> recommend dracut, since is more straight forward in practice, and you
> can setup once and then just generate initramfs that surely will work.
> The most important part is your kernel boot comand line, giving
> instructions so your system specific lvm volumes (root, usr and var if
> separated). mine looks like this
> "rd.lvm rd.lvm.vg=gentoovg rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/root
> rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/usr root=/dev/mapper/gentoovg-root
> ccinit=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet"
> A little too long in my opinion, but works, and the rd.lvm.lv parts
> result redundant if rd.lvm.vg is already set, i think, it worked when
> I tested, but I kept the redundancy just in case.
> this can be setup in sevaral ways, directly when compiling the kernel,
> using dracut the config file, or the bootloader, I used dracut since I
> wanted to centralize the boot process configuration as much as
> possible.
> Also be sure that the lvm binaries are included in the initramfs, if
> you will be using dracut you would need to add to /etc/dracut.conf:
> 
> use_fstab="yes"
> host_cmdline="yes"
> kernel_cmdline="your_cmd_line"

My kernel command line is like this:
init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/mapper/linux--files-64--root
udev video=uvesafb:1280x1024 speakup.synth=spkout vmalloc=256M dolvm
rootfstype=ext4 real_init=/sbin/systemd systemd.confirm_spawn=yes

I thought the dolvm would take care of all lvm related stuff, I don't
understand the rd.lvm parts at all, I have never seen such.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:15 AM,   wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:22 AM,   wrote:
>> > Hi.  I have been trying to get systemd to boot, but I have run into
>> > several problems and need some help.  I am using everything but /boot as
>> > lvm's, with a separate user partition.  I had to copy systemd to /sbin
>> > because the initrd looks for the realinit too soon, but that is maybe
>> > another matter.
>>
>> Moving systemd to /sbin sounds like it's not going to work. Run
>> readelf -d /usr/lib/systemd/systemd; all the NEEDED libraries on
>> /usr/lib should be available to the binary at the time it's being
>> executed.
>
> How can I do this, genkernel looks for its init before it mounts /usr
> and genkernel-next will not mount the separate /usr at all.  My latest
> initrd is from the very latest genkernel.

With genkernel, I don't know; I never used it. On the other hand,
dracut is designed to work with systemd; if you use the systemd USE
flag and the systemd module, it even uses systemd *inside* the
initramfs.

> But how to get a complete history of systemd actions in the order that
> they are done, I thought the confirm_spawn would do this for me -- at
> least for my initial debugging.

The problem obviously is not in systemd, but in the integration of
genkernel+systemd. I repeat, I never used genkernel, so I don't know
what you can do.

That being said, "get a complete history of systemd actions in the
order that they are done" will not tell you much: systemd uses heavy
parallelization, so in some runs the order in which actions are
performed will be different from others.

The problem is that if systemd is installed into /usr/lib (which is
Gentoo's case), then /usr should be mounted before systemd starts.
That's responsibility of the initramfs, not of systemd, and the
solution lies in the initramfs, not in systemd.

My only possible recommendation would be for you to try dracut.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread Jc García
2014-05-12 4:15 GMT-06:00  :

> How can I do this, genkernel looks for its init before it mounts /usr
> and genkernel-next will not mount the separate /usr at all.  My latest
> initrd is from the very latest genkernel.
>
> But how to get a complete history of systemd actions in the order that
> they are done, I thought the confirm_spawn would do this for me -- at
> least for my initial debugging.
>

I have had this trouble too, and a very similar setup than you, and
after a few workarounds I got to boot with a genkernel and a dracut
generated initramfs, so it can be done both ways, but i would
recommend dracut, since is more straight forward in practice, and you
can setup once and then just generate initramfs that surely will work.
The most important part is your kernel boot comand line, giving
instructions so your system specific lvm volumes (root, usr and var if
separated). mine looks like this
"rd.lvm rd.lvm.vg=gentoovg rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/root
rd.lvm.lv=gentoovg/usr root=/dev/mapper/gentoovg-root
ccinit=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd quiet"
A little too long in my opinion, but works, and the rd.lvm.lv parts
result redundant if rd.lvm.vg is already set, i think, it worked when
I tested, but I kept the redundancy just in case.
this can be setup in sevaral ways, directly when compiling the kernel,
using dracut the config file, or the bootloader, I used dracut since I
wanted to centralize the boot process configuration as much as
possible.
Also be sure that the lvm binaries are included in the initramfs, if
you will be using dracut you would need to add to /etc/dracut.conf:

use_fstab="yes"
host_cmdline="yes"
kernel_cmdline="your_cmd_line"



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:22 AM,   wrote:
> > Hi.  I have been trying to get systemd to boot, but I have run into
> > several problems and need some help.  I am using everything but /boot as
> > lvm's, with a separate user partition.  I had to copy systemd to /sbin
> > because the initrd looks for the realinit too soon, but that is maybe
> > another matter.
> 
> Moving systemd to /sbin sounds like it's not going to work. Run
> readelf -d /usr/lib/systemd/systemd; all the NEEDED libraries on
> /usr/lib should be available to the binary at the time it's being
> executed.

How can I do this, genkernel looks for its init before it mounts /usr
and genkernel-next will not mount the separate /usr at all.  My latest
initrd is from the very latest genkernel.

But how to get a complete history of systemd actions in the order that
they are done, I thought the confirm_spawn would do this for me -- at
least for my initial debugging.


> 
> How did you get your initramfs? dracut? genkernel? Roll your own?
> 
> > I had set confirm_spawn=y in the kernel command line, but it only waits
> > a short time and then says assuming positive response and tries to
> > continue -- how can I get it to wait for me?  Also, even so, it died on
> > mounting of my lvms, saying there was some kind of timeout and came to a
> > complete halt (maybe it was a shell, but no prompt) after all those
> > failed, so I could do nothing much.  Openrc works fine, but I was trying
> > to get gnome to work, so I was trying to use systemd.
> >
> > It saved no logs (none I can find), but then again /var was not mounted.
> >
> > Any help with this would be appreciated.
> 
> I use dracut for my initramfs; I would recommend you to try it.
> However, last time I tried to use it with LVM (a few days ago), the
> last version (037) failed, but 036-r4 worked perfectly.
> 
> Regards.
> -- 
> Canek Peláez Valdés
> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
> 

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:22 AM,   wrote:
> Hi.  I have been trying to get systemd to boot, but I have run into
> several problems and need some help.  I am using everything but /boot as
> lvm's, with a separate user partition.  I had to copy systemd to /sbin
> because the initrd looks for the realinit too soon, but that is maybe
> another matter.

Moving systemd to /sbin sounds like it's not going to work. Run
readelf -d /usr/lib/systemd/systemd; all the NEEDED libraries on
/usr/lib should be available to the binary at the time it's being
executed.

How did you get your initramfs? dracut? genkernel? Roll your own?

> I had set confirm_spawn=y in the kernel command line, but it only waits
> a short time and then says assuming positive response and tries to
> continue -- how can I get it to wait for me?  Also, even so, it died on
> mounting of my lvms, saying there was some kind of timeout and came to a
> complete halt (maybe it was a shell, but no prompt) after all those
> failed, so I could do nothing much.  Openrc works fine, but I was trying
> to get gnome to work, so I was trying to use systemd.
>
> It saved no logs (none I can find), but then again /var was not mounted.
>
> Any help with this would be appreciated.

I use dracut for my initramfs; I would recommend you to try it.
However, last time I tried to use it with LVM (a few days ago), the
last version (037) failed, but 036-r4 worked perfectly.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México