Re: [gentoo-user] vmware/xorg.conf issues --SOLVED--
On 00:03 Sat 16 Jul , Richard Fish wrote: Bill Roberts wrote: Richard I tried all of your suggestions, without success. See inline comments: Note device and monitor section of xorg.conf at end: I've had one further idea. I have a 4-port kvm switch (Cybex), it has never interferred with anything in the past four or five years. Wonder if. . . , maybe that could be having an effect. One other thought. In full screen, ever other line is black, giving the awful looking screen. Couldn't that have something to do with interlacing?? Wish I understood all of this better. Oh, one more thing. Modelines can be an issue, but only if VMWare and X are running at different resolutions or color depths. For example, my normal laptop resolution is 1600x1200. If I go fullscreen VMWare at 1600x1200 or 1280x1024, everything works normally. However there is also a 1400x1050 mode in XP, but my hardware doesn't seem to support that resolution, so if I try to go fullscreen, I get a resolution that results in a corrupted display for the right 1/3 of the screen. So it is possible that a particular modeline could fix that issue for me, and may be related to why you had to specify modelines previously. But if the resolution and depth are the same, then the same modeline should apply whether VMWare is fullscreen or not, AFAIK. I finally solved the mystery. I copied the modelines generated by the Knoppix 3.6 CD for this monitor into the Monitor section of xorg.conf, and, voila!!, the full screen issues disappeared. Vmware now works like a charm. Maybe it will do something for my mplayer/mythtv issues. Thanks, Richard, for your ideas. They helped me narrow down the potential problems, and eventually solve the problem itself. Bill Roberts pgprIVaby8LJm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware/xorg.conf issues
Oh, one other oddity. The vmware modules vmmon and vmnet which should be loaded by /etc/init.d/vmware in default mode, don't get loaded. Can't figure out why. Make sure the kernel version in /usr/src/linux matches the version of the kernel currently running. What does the following command says? # ls /etc/vmware Cheers, AS -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware/xorg.conf issues
On 09:41 Fri 15 Jul , Antonino Sabetta wrote: Oh, one other oddity. The vmware modules vmmon and vmnet which should be loaded by /etc/init.d/vmware in default mode, don't get loaded. Can't figure out why. Make sure the kernel version in /usr/src/linux matches the version of the kernel currently running. What does the following command says? # ls /etc/vmware ls -al /etc/vmware/ total 85 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 160 Jul 15 10:22 . drwxr-xr-x 83 root root 5496 Jul 15 10:04 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 211 Jul 15 10:22 config drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 240 Jul 15 10:04 init.d -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 14482 Jul 15 10:04 installer.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58854 Jul 15 10:22 locations Kernel version matches. I also did an emerge -C', removed all files, and re-emerged. Still blurred full-screen. Thanks Bill Roberts pgpZPj3OGEZVZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware/xorg.conf issues
Well, nothing obvious is popping out at me, but see my comments inline below... Bill Roberts wrote: I am going NUTS trying to figure out how to make full-screen mode work properly in vmware-workstation 5. I can go into full-screen mode, but it looks like only half of the lines get drawn, so it's very ugly, impossible to read. A major reason for this can be enabling framebuffer graphics in the kernel. If you are using framebuffer graphics, try compiling a new kernel with only text-mode console support. Full-screen vmware sessions seem most reliable this way. I had beautiful screens in 4.5.2 which turned ugly at some point (don't know causal factor). I emerged 5, got beautiful screens again. I have been trying to get mplayer hdtv working, so I've been playing around with xorg.conf a lot, and I guess I managed to break it. I think I need additional modelines to make vmware work properly, not sure how to get the right ones. My guess is that this has nothing to do with the modelines, because on a modern system with a DDC capable monitor, everything should be autodetected. Specifically, double check your monitor section and try commenting out any HorizSync or VertRefresh settings that you have. Oh, one other oddity. The vmware modules vmmon and vmnet which should be loaded by /etc/init.d/vmware in default mode, don't get loaded. Can't figure out why. Explain a bit more please...are you saying the vmware init script runs as part of your startup, but produces errors? You didn't by chance accidentally replace this with the VMWare version, did you? The second line of that script should say Copyright ... Gentoo Foundation. If this doesn't give you any ideas, I would like to see the device and monitor sections from your xorg.conf file. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware/xorg.conf issues
Richard I tried all of your suggestions, without success. See inline comments: Note device and monitor section of xorg.conf at end: I've had one further idea. I have a 4-port kvm switch (Cybex), it has never interferred with anything in the past four or five years. Wonder if. . . , maybe that could be having an effect. One other thought. In full screen, ever other line is black, giving the awful looking screen. Couldn't that have something to do with interlacing?? Wish I understood all of this better. On 21:05 Fri 15 Jul , Richard Fish wrote: Well, nothing obvious is popping out at me, but see my comments inline below... Bill Roberts wrote: I am going NUTS trying to figure out how to make full-screen mode work properly in vmware-workstation 5. I can go into full-screen mode, but it looks like only half of the lines get drawn, so it's very ugly, impossible to read. A major reason for this can be enabling framebuffer graphics in the kernel. If you are using framebuffer graphics, try compiling a new kernel with only text-mode console support. Full-screen vmware sessions seem most reliable this way. I did have framebuffer graphics enabled, just for the smaller fonts. I diabled them, didn't make any difference. Also, when I had good full screens, I did have framebuffer graphics enabled. I had beautiful screens in 4.5.2 which turned ugly at some point (don't know causal factor). I emerged 5, got beautiful screens again. I have been trying to get mplayer hdtv working, so I've been playing around with xorg.conf a lot, and I guess I managed to break it. I think I need additional modelines to make vmware work properly, not sure how to get the right ones. My guess is that this has nothing to do with the modelines, because on a modern system with a DDC capable monitor, everything should be autodetected. Specifically, double check your monitor section and try commenting out any HorizSync or VertRefresh settings that you have. Modelines are supposed to be generally obsolete, and my Dell monitor is DDC compliant, but I've been having difficulty with mplayer/mythtv. Also, VmWare says I can run into these kind of problems if there isn't an appropriate resolution available. Oh, one other oddity. The vmware modules vmmon and vmnet which should be loaded by /etc/init.d/vmware in default mode, don't get loaded. Can't figure out why. Explain a bit more please...are you saying the vmware init script runs as part of your startup, but produces errors? You didn't by chance accidentally replace this with the VMWare version, did you? The second line of that script should say Copyright ... Gentoo Foundation. I did a rc-update add vmware default and back when, it actually started the vmmon/vmnet modules. No longer. No error messages, no hiccups, nothing. And when I manually do a /etc/init.d/vmware start, it works perfectly. The Copyright ... is there. If this doesn't give you any ideas, I would like to see the device and monitor sections from your xorg.conf file. Here are the device and monitor sections of xorg.conf, plus a couple of extra, maybe pertinent items. Section Monitor DisplaySize 350 255 # mm Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL D1226H # HorizSync30.0 - 95.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier n6600gt Driver nvidia Option NoLogo 1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device n6600gt MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Maybe some of the following should be disabled??? Section Module Load record Load extmod Load dbe Load glx Load xtrap Load type1 Load freetype EndSection pgpJzYEyhAeru.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware/xorg.conf issues
Bill Roberts wrote: Richard I tried all of your suggestions, without success. See inline comments: Note device and monitor section of xorg.conf at end: I've had one further idea. I have a 4-port kvm switch (Cybex), it has never interferred with anything in the past four or five years. Wonder if. . . , maybe that could be having an effect. One other thought. In full screen, ever other line is black, giving the awful looking screen. Couldn't that have something to do with interlacing?? Wish I understood all of this better. Well, I'm not completely certain, but I don't think so. To the best of my knowledge, PC cards today work on a fairly simply frame-buffer concept...the software renders the image it wants displayed to a memory location, usually on the card itself. It then instructs the GPU that it has updated the image, and it is up to the GPU to read and create the analog signals required for the monitor. Interlacing should have nothing to do with the framebuffer, it should only be considered in instructing the GPU how to communicate with a given monitor. So it is only between the GPU and the monitor that I would expect a disagreement over interlacing to result in a problem like this, but the image would also not be synchronized correctly (rolling, distorting horizontally, basically looking like a 1970's-era American TV!) Note that the above is even true for accelerated 2D or 3D graphics...the main difference there is that the GPU has many additional instructions available for common drawing operations so that the system CPU doesn't have to perform them. The idea is still the same...render first to a memory buffer, then let the hardware figure out how to transmit that. My best guess here is that VMWare and the X server are having a disagreement about the layout of the framebuffer. In addition to width and height, a particular framebuffer is expected to have a particular alignment in memory for how many pixels per line, lines per screen, bits per pixel, and bits per color, and the order of the colors. So, on that front, I have several other suggestions to try: 1. Try using the x.org 'nv' driver instead of the proprietary nvidia driver. 2. Try setting DefaultDepth to 16. (with both drivers) 3. Try setting DefaultDepth to 32 (and create the appropriate subsection for Depth 32). This may only work with the proprietary driver HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware/xorg.conf issues
Bill Roberts wrote: Richard I tried all of your suggestions, without success. See inline comments: Note device and monitor section of xorg.conf at end: I've had one further idea. I have a 4-port kvm switch (Cybex), it has never interferred with anything in the past four or five years. Wonder if. . . , maybe that could be having an effect. One other thought. In full screen, ever other line is black, giving the awful looking screen. Couldn't that have something to do with interlacing?? Wish I understood all of this better. Oh, one more thing. Modelines can be an issue, but only if VMWare and X are running at different resolutions or color depths. For example, my normal laptop resolution is 1600x1200. If I go fullscreen VMWare at 1600x1200 or 1280x1024, everything works normally. However there is also a 1400x1050 mode in XP, but my hardware doesn't seem to support that resolution, so if I try to go fullscreen, I get a resolution that results in a corrupted display for the right 1/3 of the screen. So it is possible that a particular modeline could fix that issue for me, and may be related to why you had to specify modelines previously. But if the resolution and depth are the same, then the same modeline should apply whether VMWare is fullscreen or not, AFAIK. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
