Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Liam Quin]

On Thu, 2021-02-04 at 21:07 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure that currently there is enough teamwork and planning for
> GIMP as a whole, with respect to needs of users.

In the past some of that has been done at GIMP developer meetups, in
person. We've also had occasional jit.si video meetings but nothing
specific about planning recently as far as i know.

And yes, we need more people on the team who know about colour
management at a fairly deep level. But yes, we also need to get GIMP 3
out, and a lot of changes will have to wait until then.

Thank you, Elle, for what you have done so far!




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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Liam Quin]

On Thu, 2021-02-04 at 18:31 -0700, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list
wrote:
> Is GIMP no longer being actively improved on, then? 

GIMP is being very actively developed. It's just that there are not
_many_ developers, so larger changes and more complex changes tend to
take a lot longer.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Elle Stone]

On 2/4/21 8:31 PM, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list wrote:

Is GIMP no longer being actively improved on, then? Is it worth it to use
GIMP at this point? In other words, are most of the developers no longer
paying attention to feature requests users need/want? Sorry if I sound
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Yes GIMP is being actively developed. Yes GIMP needs more developers. 
The current main goal is getting GIMP converted to GTK3. Supposedly at 
some point in the future fixing color management will be a priority.


I'm not sure what a good way to respond to feature requests that users 
need/want actually is. I think maybe Krita devs have a handle on the 
problem but I don't know for sure. The problem is that everyone has "an 
interest" that they think should be "the most important feature".


I'm not sure that currently there is enough teamwork and planning for 
GIMP as a whole, with respect to needs of users. I think there might be 
a bit too much "What developer A wants and what developer B wants".


Personally I've run out of time and interest to devote to GIMP color 
management. It's a lot closer to being truly useful than it used to be. 
It's still got a long way to go.


I'm hoping some new developers/contributors to GIMP show up who have a 
good knowledge of color management/color science plus the time, energy, 
and patience that I used to have. Even if you can't write code, if you 
have the ability to compile GIMP from source and test new code carefully 
and systematically, and report problems with color management, that is a 
good contribution, a necessary contribution.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list]

On February 5, 2021 2:31:01 AM GMT+01:00, Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list 
 wrote:

> are most of the developers no longer paying attention to feature requests 
> users need/want?

I guess there are some people who'd say new features get a bit too much 
attention over finishing existing features like color management.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list]

Is GIMP no longer being actively improved on, then? Is it worth it to use
GIMP at this point? In other words, are most of the developers no longer
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Elle Stone]

On 2/4/21 7:14 PM, Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list wrote:



On February 5, 2021 12:59:50 AM GMT+01:00, Elle Stone 
 wrote:


I was able to write code that fixed some of the bugs I reported for
GIMP-2.99 color management. But once I reached the point where further
coding requirements exceeded my coding ability, progress simply
stopped,
with everyone else saying "some day" proper color management for GIMP
would be a priority. I began to feel like the best way to make sure a
bug would never get fixed, was to have the dreaded "Concepts: Color
Science" tag attached to it.


You make it sound like introducing this tag was a wrong decision. As I 
introduced it as a way to group thhese issues together, did I do something 
wrong there?



Of course you didn't do anything wrong. It's an excellent tag to let 
people know what the topic is.


It's been stated over and over again by a particular GIMP dev that GIMP 
development works best if people do what they are interested in doing. 
The question is which current GIMP devs other than myself have an 
*interest* in dealing bugs tagged with "Concept: Color Science"?


It would be great if you could find the time to go through the links I 
provided in my post and add the tag as appropriate to any relevant bug 
reports that don't yet have the tag. Someday when GIMP has found another 
developer with an interest in color management and color science, that 
person will find the "Concepts: Color Science" tag very useful.


Best,
Elle

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list]

On February 5, 2021 12:59:50 AM GMT+01:00, Elle Stone 
 wrote:

>I was able to write code that fixed some of the bugs I reported for 
>GIMP-2.99 color management. But once I reached the point where further 
>coding requirements exceeded my coding ability, progress simply
>stopped, 
>with everyone else saying "some day" proper color management for GIMP 
>would be a priority. I began to feel like the best way to make sure a 
>bug would never get fixed, was to have the dreaded "Concepts: Color 
>Science" tag attached to it.

You make it sound like introducing this tag was a wrong decision. As I 
introduced it as a way to group thhese issues together, did I do something 
wrong there?

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[Gimp-user] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors

[Elle Stone]

A misconception I keep seeing on various forums needs to be corrected:

GIMP-2.10 does *NOT* produce correct editing results in color spaces 
other than sRGB. Neither does GIMP-2.99.


Editing in AdobeRGB, ProPhotoRGB, Rec2020, etc WILL produce *wrong* 
results for many operations, and unless you are thoroughly conversant 
with the underlying code, or else have a way to compare results with a 
properly color-managed editing application, you don't have any way to 
know what's right and what's wrong. It's best to stick with editing only 
in GIMP's built-in sRGB color spaces.


The same is true if you are using GIMP-2.99: Some things that don't work 
in GIMP-2.10, do work in GIMP-2.99. Other things that actually do work 
in GIMP-2.10, don't work in GIMP-2.99.


About two years ago major changes were made in babl and additional 
changes were made in GIMP-2.99, messing up stuff that still works in 
GIMP-2.10. For awhile progress was being made in GIMP-2.99 on extending 
the arena of "what actually works", some of which progress is from bug 
reports I filed and in some cases helped to fix - it seems nobody else 
was testing the new code to see what actually did work.


I was able to write code that fixed some of the bugs I reported for 
GIMP-2.99 color management. But once I reached the point where further 
coding requirements exceeded my coding ability, progress simply stopped, 
with everyone else saying "some day" proper color management for GIMP 
would be a priority. I began to feel like the best way to make sure a 
bug would never get fixed, was to have the dreaded "Concepts: Color 
Science" tag attached to it.


Since autumm of 2013 I've been participating in GIMP development, mostly 
in the area of color management (editing in color spaces other than 
sRGB) and color science (making sure GIMP code produces correct results 
for things like layer blend modes, Curves and Levels, AutoStretch, 
Luminance, and so on; and adding code for things like LCh color pickers 
and blend modes).


Participating in GIMP development used to be challenging and enjoyable. 
But over the last couple of years my interest in and patience with the 
slow pace of progress regarding GIMP color management have dwindled to 
the point of disappearing altogether.


If someone else feels like helping with GIMP color management and color 
science, here's a list of still-open bug reports that I reported after 
the migration to gitlab, most of which have to do with color 
management/color science:


https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&author_username=ellestone

Here are bugs that I opened before the migration to gitlab:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&author_username=bugzilla-migration&search=ellestone

The most important color management bugs still open from before the 
migration to gitlab are these:


* Replace hard-coded sRGB parameters to allow editing in other RGB 
working spaces (opened 6 years ago): 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/594 - in some ways this bug 
is obsolete as current GIMP color management issues are less about 
actual hard-coded values and more about a lack of any way to convey the 
required "not sRGB" color space information to various sections of code 
that need this information.


* Decomposed to LAB images have the wrong ICC profile assigned (opened 4 
years ago): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/883


* Address various limitations of LCMS soft proofing (opened 4 years 
ago): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/976

the
and hoping very much that GIMP will find new developers that them a lot 
of energy and some interest and expertise in color management and color 
science.
* Support for high bit depth RGB (and LCH?) color palettes for painting 
(opened 2 years ago): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/1328


Similar searchs in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gegl/ and 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/babl/ will turn up a few additional color 
management issues.


Best of luck to all,
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open in GIMP 2.8

[Liam R E Quin]

On Wed, 2020-12-02 at 13:00 -0500, Techno wrote:
> 
> Well, it's good that I can pass the version 2.8 files to 2.10. I just
> have to plan which way something's going carefully.

When you do Save As in 2.10, you'll see the bottom of the dialogue
gives you the chance to save with "slower but better compression", and
if you hover there you get a list of 2.10 features you are using that
prevent 2.8 from interpreting the file.

The least obvious is probably layer modes - you will need to switch
each layer back to the legacy layer modes by clicking on the icon just
to the right of the layer mode drop down.

The most obvious is probably that 2.8 is limited to 8-bit per channel
encoding (precision).

So if you go through and remove new features you can save for 2.8, but
of course this may affect the appearance of the image.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open in GIMP 2.8

[Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list]

I guess you could export them to some other format and import them into an
earlier version. If you really need to do it.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:00 AM Techno  wrote:

> On 2020-11-29 20:00, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:43 AM Techno wrote:
> >> When I saved a file from GIMP 2.10 I found that I couldn't open it in
> >> GIMP 2.8. What I got was the following warning, "XCF error: unsupported
> >> XCF file version 11 encountered."
> >>
> >> So this is a known thing, right?
> > Indeed, yes. Older versions of GIMP typically can't handle newer
> > versions of XCF.
> Okay, thanks. It makes sense that the saved file format would be a bit
> different if you're saving more or different information in that file.
> It was just an unpleasant surprise to find that I couldn't open a .xcf
> file in GiMP 2.8.
>
> Well, it's good that I can pass the version 2.8 files to 2.10. I just
> have to plan which way something's going carefully.
>
> > If you don't use masks or the fancier kind of blending modes like
> > linear light or hard mix, or higher bit depth precision, you can use
> > OpenRaster for passing multiple layers around.
>
> Yeah, I'm still struggling with the issues around where to put scripts
> and where they'd show up in GIMP. I'm far from doing anything that's
> actually advanced.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open in GIMP 2.8

[Techno]

On 2020-11-29 20:00, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote:

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:43 AM Techno wrote:

When I saved a file from GIMP 2.10 I found that I couldn't open it in
GIMP 2.8. What I got was the following warning, "XCF error: unsupported
XCF file version 11 encountered."

So this is a known thing, right?

Indeed, yes. Older versions of GIMP typically can't handle newer
versions of XCF.
Okay, thanks. It makes sense that the saved file format would be a bit 
different if you're saving more or different information in that file. 
It was just an unpleasant surprise to find that I couldn't open a .xcf 
file in GiMP 2.8.


Well, it's good that I can pass the version 2.8 files to 2.10. I just 
have to plan which way something's going carefully.



If you don't use masks or the fancier kind of blending modes like
linear light or hard mix, or higher bit depth precision, you can use
OpenRaster for passing multiple layers around.


Yeah, I'm still struggling with the issues around where to put scripts 
and where they'd show up in GIMP. I'm far from doing anything that's 
actually advanced.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open in GIMP 2.8

[Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:43 AM Techno wrote:
>
> When I saved a file from GIMP 2.10 I found that I couldn't open it in
> GIMP 2.8. What I got was the following warning, "XCF error: unsupported
> XCF file version 11 encountered."
>
> So this is a known thing, right?

Indeed, yes. Older versions of GIMP typically can't handle newer
versions of XCF.

If you don't use masks or the fancier kind of blending modes like
linear light or hard mix, or higher bit depth precision, you can use
OpenRaster for passing multiple layers around.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 .xcf files can't open in GIMP 2.8

[Techno]

When I saved a file from GIMP 2.10 I found that I couldn't open it in 
GIMP 2.8. What I got was the following warning, "XCF error: unsupported 
XCF file version 11 encountered."


So this is a known thing, right?

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 - can't apply colours to image

[Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list]

In the main menu: Image > Mode

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 2:00 PM ROBERT BRODIE  wrote:
>
> I can’t discover how to get out of greyscale mode to apply colours. Must be 
> easy, but can’t find solution under Help.
>
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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 - can't apply colours to image

[ROBERT BRODIE]

I can’t discover how to get out of greyscale mode to apply colours. Must be 
easy, but can’t find solution under Help.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

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I'm using Gimp 2.10.14 under Ubuntu and I'm trying to use the Nexa font
( https://fontsio.com/nexa-font-free/  
) for creation but I can't
access some glyphs too.



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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 debian i dont see filter-web-slice

[fekalzrout]

>It is there in my (k)ubuntu 18.04 Gimp 2.10.14  check
>/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/py-slice/
>
>Best guess, It is a python plugin. 
>
>Python support is no longer installed by default. Do you have a
>'Filters ->
>Python-Fu' entry ?
>
>install the gimp python package, try in a terminal.
>
>su 
>
>apt install gimp-python

thank you very much, appreaciate your assistance i didn't have python-Fu i only
had script-Fu installed so i tried your sudo apt-get install gimp-python and now
it works.
thanks from czech repubilc bye.

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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 debian i dont see filter-web-slice

[rich404]

>how to slice an image, there use to be a filter-web-slice which sliced
>image
>through guidelines, i dont want to use guillotine since i then have to
>save
>images manualy. how do i enable this filter i tryed to reinstall gimp
>but it
>didnt work. thx

It is there in my (k)ubuntu 18.04 Gimp 2.10.14  check
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/py-slice/

Best guess, It is a python plugin. 

Python support is no longer installed by default. Do you have a 'Filters ->
Python-Fu' entry ?

install the gimp python package, try in a terminal.

su 

apt install gimp-python

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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 debian i dont see filter-web-slice

[fekalzrout]

how to slice an image, there use to be a filter-web-slice which sliced image
through guidelines, i dont want to use guillotine since i then have to save
images manualy. how do i enable this filter i tryed to reinstall gimp but it
didnt work. thx

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[vincents]

Hi All !

Thanks guys for your answers.

I will move to Photoshop/Illustrator for this time :( :( :(

Regards,

Vincent

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[scott smart via gimp-user-list]

On 3/11/2020 02:53, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote:


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:14 PM vincents wrote:

Hi Alex,

Thank you for your answer !

So I have installer this font manager you talked about but no help, I still
cannot see all the glyphs. It seems that I cant see those without unicode.

https://imgur.com/a/geXO5UV

Okay, so I grabbed the file and opened it in FontForge. I'm guessing
you are talking about glyphs towards the bottom.

https://i.imgur.com/kWDJqXY.png

They all have '-1' Unicode value. This is so messed up. Basically you
have two options:

1. Find software that would access glyphs that don't belong to any
Unicode block. I think the only one that did that was Fontmatrix, and
it's not in the Ubuntu repository anymore. Maybe in some PPAs.

2. Use FontForge to map the glyphs that you need to real Unicode
characters inside known blocks. As a quick hackaround, you could use
smth like Latin Extended A or Latin Extended B:
https://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/latin-extended-b/.

For that, if my understanding is correct:

1. Use 'Encoding > Compact' to see everything in one window
2. Click to select a glyph you want to remap
3. Use 'Element > Glyph Info..."
4. Set new value using reference in the link above, press OK

When you are done, uncheck 'Compact' encoding option, export the font
file, install it instead of the one you already installed.

In fact, there's option 3: annoy the type designer just enough to get
this fixed :)

Alex



Just a user here, but I assume GIMP only accesses the Unicode CMAP for a 
ttf/otf font.  For freeware Font Forge is probably your best bet to get 
at the full glyph index.  There's some better payware for Win or Mac, no 
idea about Linux distros.



scott s.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 7:22 PM Liam R E Quin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 09:59 +0100, vincents wrote:
> >
> > I'm using Gimp 2.10.14 under Ubuntu and I'm trying to use the
> > Streewear font
> > (https://www.dafontfree.io/streetwear-font-free/) for a creation but
> > I can't access some glyphs.
>
> GIMP does not have a glyphs palette i’m afraid, and also it can only
> use glyphs that are mapped to characters. The Streetware font has
> access to the glphs at the end via the OpenType alternate glyphs
> mechanism, but GIMP doesn't support OpenType features and alternates.

Oh, I'll be damned, you are completely right, and I messed up. They
are referenced via the aalt table. Yes, not much we can do in GIMP
right now.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[vincents]

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your test !

I have installed Fontforge, loaded the font, mapped some glyphs (yes those at
the bottom) with Latin Extended B using "Glyph info", generate the fonts
(Truetype .ttf), but no help. If I use shift+ctrl+u, I still see the Latin
Extended B characters ...

Did you manage to do it on your side ?

Thanks !

Vincent

>Okay, so I grabbed the file and opened it in FontForge. I'm guessing
>you are talking about glyphs towards the bottom.
>
>https://i.imgur.com/kWDJqXY.png
>
>They all have '-1' Unicode value. This is so messed up. Basically you
>have two options:
>
>1. Find software that would access glyphs that don't belong to any
>Unicode block. I think the only one that did that was Fontmatrix, and
>it's not in the Ubuntu repository anymore. Maybe in some PPAs.
>
>2. Use FontForge to map the glyphs that you need to real Unicode
>characters inside known blocks. As a quick hackaround, you could use
>smth like Latin Extended A or Latin Extended B:
>https://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/latin-extended-b/.
>
>For that, if my understanding is correct:
>
>1. Use 'Encoding > Compact' to see everything in one window
>2. Click to select a glyph you want to remap
>3. Use 'Element > Glyph Info..."
>4. Set new value using reference in the link above, press OK
>
>When you are done, uncheck 'Compact' encoding option, export the font
>file, install it instead of the one you already installed.
>
>In fact, there's option 3: annoy the type designer just enough to get
>this fixed :)
>
>Alex

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[Liam R E Quin]

On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 09:59 +0100, vincents wrote:
> 
> I'm using Gimp 2.10.14 under Ubuntu and I'm trying to use the
> Streewear font
> (https://www.dafontfree.io/streetwear-font-free/) for a creation but
> I can't access some glyphs.

GIMP does not have a glyphs palette i’m afraid, and also it can only
use glyphs that are mapped to characters. The Streetware font has
access to the glphs at the end via the OpenType alternate glyphs
mechanism, but GIMP doesn't support OpenType features and alternates.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:14 PM vincents wrote:
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> Thank you for your answer !
>
> So I have installer this font manager you talked about but no help, I still
> cannot see all the glyphs. It seems that I cant see those without unicode.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/geXO5UV

Okay, so I grabbed the file and opened it in FontForge. I'm guessing
you are talking about glyphs towards the bottom.

https://i.imgur.com/kWDJqXY.png

They all have '-1' Unicode value. This is so messed up. Basically you
have two options:

1. Find software that would access glyphs that don't belong to any
Unicode block. I think the only one that did that was Fontmatrix, and
it's not in the Ubuntu repository anymore. Maybe in some PPAs.

2. Use FontForge to map the glyphs that you need to real Unicode
characters inside known blocks. As a quick hackaround, you could use
smth like Latin Extended A or Latin Extended B:
https://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/latin-extended-b/.

For that, if my understanding is correct:

1. Use 'Encoding > Compact' to see everything in one window
2. Click to select a glyph you want to remap
3. Use 'Element > Glyph Info..."
4. Set new value using reference in the link above, press OK

When you are done, uncheck 'Compact' encoding option, export the font
file, install it instead of the one you already installed.

In fact, there's option 3: annoy the type designer just enough to get
this fixed :)

Alex
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[vincents]

Hi Alex, 

Thank you for your answer !

So I have installer this font manager you talked about but no help, I still
cannot see all the glyphs. It seems that I cant see those without unicode.

https://imgur.com/a/geXO5UV

Any idea to go further please ?

Best regards,

Vincent

>Hello,
>
>Any half-decent font manager, including free ones, will give you the
>possibility to open the full map of characters, pick the one you need,
>then copy/paste it.
>
>Here is Font Manager doing just that:
>
>https://i.imgur.com/DvChS0e.png
>
>http://fontmanager.github.io/
>
>Alex

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:59 AM vincents  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone
>
> I'm using Gimp 2.10.14 under Ubuntu and I'm trying to use the Streewear font
> (https://www.dafontfree.io/streetwear-font-free/) for a creation but I can't
> access some glyphs.
>
> I checked with online tools such https://opentype.js.org and the characters 
> I'm
> interested in (for example id 264 -> E.ALT) don't have unicode so it's
> impossible to display them in the text with shift+ctrl+u :(
>
> I need an Illustrator/Photoshop or is it possible with Gimp?

Hello,

Any half-decent font manager, including free ones, will give you the
possibility to open the full map of characters, pick the one you need,
then copy/paste it.

Here is Font Manager doing just that:

https://i.imgur.com/DvChS0e.png

http://fontmanager.github.io/

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and Streetwear font (glyphs)

[vincents]

Hello Everyone

I'm using Gimp 2.10.14 under Ubuntu and I'm trying to use the Streewear font
(https://www.dafontfree.io/streetwear-font-free/) for a creation but I can't
access some glyphs.

I checked with online tools such https://opentype.js.org and the characters I'm
interested in (for example id 264 -> E.ALT) don't have unicode so it's
impossible to display them in the text with shift+ctrl+u :(

I need an Illustrator/Photoshop or is it possible with Gimp?

Thanks for your help,

Best regards,

Vincent 

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10

[Ichimaru Kuragami via gimp-user-list]

Good day. What happened to the LPI settings for the Newsprint plugin? Seems
like the settings for the new Newsprint plugin changed away from parameters
that print designers actually use for halftone production.
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 Tool Option pop up icon display

[Judd V. via gimp-user-list]

So on Gimp 2.10 I started editing a photo. During the process I did steps to 
remove an item. During the process this “Tool Options” icon box popped up on my 
display blocking the Mac Start Options, File, Edit drop down menus. I am 
wondering how I can stop this icon from popping up every time I try and edit 
photos using Gimp 2.10. And it goes onto of all other applications and start.




>>> The top left is where the icon shows up and I would like to remove this 
>>> from blocking my tool bar. I cannot access the Apple Star Menu, File, or 
>>> Edit drop down options.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 on OS/X - Window layout not being remembered between sessions.

[Robert Bryett via gimp-user-list]

I use GIMP in multi-window mode (mainly because I started using GIMP when that 
was the only mode available), and I wonder if the list can help me with an 
irritating problem. GIMP does not “remember” the positioning of my windows 
properly between sessions, so I have to tweak them manually every time I start 
GIMP up. Can anyone suggest a fix or workaround?

I have “Save window positions on exit” checked, and I have tried clicking the 
“Save Window Positions Now” button too.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 scanner integration under Linux

[grepnil]

Thanks Rich.  I used the PPA under Ubuntu 16.04 but after upgrading to 18.04 I
had huge problems with libgimp2.0 and 3.0 dependencies, with GIMP and Xsane
conflicting.  It may have been unrelated to Gimp but I'm not keen to experiment
straight away.  If new requirements force a change I'll report back.  I'll
document the ImageScan workaround in a couple of days.

>The snap will be the problem. I went the other way, used to use a
>flatpak and had to side-load lots of lib files into the flatpak
>folders just to get a few plugins working. Never managed to get xsane
>working. Used a regular Gimp 2.8 for scanning.
>
>Now using kubuntu 18.04  and Gimp 2.10.x from the PPA The installation
>is much less fraught than before. I put some notes here:
>
>https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-Gimp-2-10-10-and-Ubuntu-18-04-LTS
>
>but at the end of the day, it is what you are comfortable with.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 scanner integration under Linux

[rich404]

>Hi all.  Has anyone succeeded in scanning from Gimp 2.10 under Linux? 
>In older versions the File/Create or earlier File/Acquire options
>would give options to run Xsane or ImageScan! for Linux.  I've copied
>the executables to the plug-ins directory without any effect.

>I'm using Gimp 2.10.12 under Ubuntu 18.04, from the snap install in
>Ubuntu Software.  I used to use the PPA install but I had huge
>problems with dependencies when I tried that for 2.10.  The problem
>might not be the PPA itself but I'm very chary of trying it again now
>I've got a few things working.
>

The snap will be the problem. I went the other way, used to use a flatpak and
had to side-load lots of lib files into the flatpak folders just to get a few
plugins working. Never managed to get xsane working. Used a regular Gimp 2.8 for
scanning.

Now using kubuntu 18.04  and Gimp 2.10.x from the PPA The installation is much
less fraught than before. I put some notes here:

https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-Gimp-2-10-10-and-Ubuntu-18-04-LTS

but at the end of the day, it is what you are comfortable with.

Attachments:
* https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1220/original/xsane.jpg

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 scanner integration under Linux

[grepnil]

Hi all.  Has anyone succeeded in scanning from Gimp 2.10 under Linux?  In older
versions the File/Create or earlier File/Acquire options would give options to
run Xsane or ImageScan! for Linux.  I've copied the executables to the plug-ins
directory without any effect.

I know Windows users may be able to use TWAIN drivers but that was the way it
used to be done under Linux in earlier versions, and still works with compatible
plugin executables.

I'm using Gimp 2.10.12 under Ubuntu 18.04, from the snap install in Ubuntu
Software.  I used to use the PPA install but I had huge problems with
dependencies when I tried that for 2.10.  The problem might not be the PPA
itself but I'm very chary of trying it again now I've got a few things working.

If nobody has got scanner integration working for Linux I have a workaround for
ImageScan! that I can post, but would like to know if there's a direct solution
first.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 cannot open raw files

[Dwain Alford via gimp-user-list]

hi matt,
i found out that 2.10.10 has a rawtherapee plugin in the program. install
rawtherapee and when you open a raw file it opens rawtherapee, although
unlike the version of gimp with ufraw, be sure to check (if on a mac) the
dock to bring rawtherapee to the front of gimp.

hth,
dwain

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 2:09 PM Matt878909  wrote:

> I'm having the same issue.
>
> Running Gimp 2.10.10 and i've been working on 16 bit TIF that i've
> exported from
> another software, all worked fine; then all of a sudden it stopped working.
>
> so i troubleshooted and decided to uninstall and reinstall the software.
> still
> no luck after that.
> thought there might be some latent files left behind. so cleared
> everything.
> then reinstalled again.
> still no luck.
>
> then i thought, why not import RAW files using darktable or UFRAW. UFraw
> has no
> luck and now even darktable isn't working.
>
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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 cannot open raw files

[Matt878909]

I'm having the same issue.

Running Gimp 2.10.10 and i've been working on 16 bit TIF that i've exported from
another software, all worked fine; then all of a sudden it stopped working.

so i troubleshooted and decided to uninstall and reinstall the software. still
no luck after that.
thought there might be some latent files left behind. so cleared everything.
then reinstalled again.
still no luck. 

then i thought, why not import RAW files using darktable or UFRAW. UFraw has no
luck and now even darktable isn't working.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[davisjamesf]

I had this same mapping/tracking issue (On my windows 10 OS).  I found that Gimp
needs to be running on a monitor that has the windows scale and layout setting
set to 100% (I had it set to 125%).  You'll need to restart Gimp after the
setting is changed.  Right click on the background, select Display Settings and
look under the Scale and Layout..."Change the size of text, apps and other
items".

>... When I go to put a line
>down the pencil goes off to the right and gets closer as I go left,
>possibly a resolution issue I'm led to believe, however this offset is
>only inside the drawing area, everywhere else is perfectly fine. Not
>only that, but when this occurs the button shortcuts I have set to the
>pen's two buttons seem to be ignored for what I imagine are the
>default settings and will not change back.
>My pen and eraser are both set to 'screen' in input settings and
>another forum said to ensure 'DirectX' is active in the controllers
>menu.
>I have tried multiple versions of GIMP and they all seem to give me
>the same problem.
>What can I do to make GIMP recognize the correct position of the
>cursor and the shortcuts?
>I can get additional details and screenshots if needed.
>BIG thanks in advance for nayone who helps.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 error opening XCF

[connorhawke]

>After updating to Gimp 2.10, I get the following error when opening
>some XCF files: "GIMP Message: Warning, invalid image parasite in XCF
>file: ICC profile validation failed: Parasites's flags are not
>(PERSISTENT | UNDOABLE)".
>
>Additionally, on these files it seems the ability to perform many
>simple tasks is disabled, such as moving a layer or changing font.
>
>Overall Gimp 2.10 seems like a massive improvement but I need to be
>able to work on these files. Any help please?

Disregard the last 2 paragraphs above as I found that these were due to an
incorrect setting and bugs probably unrelated to the error message. But while
I'm on that subject, some text in existing XCFs don't seem to want to be
reformatted; font, etc keeps reverting. As a workaround new text needs to be
created.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 error opening XCF

[connorhawke]

After updating to Gimp 2.10, I get the following error when opening some XCF
files: "GIMP Message: Warning, invalid image parasite in XCF file: ICC profile
validation failed: Parasites's flags are not (PERSISTENT | UNDOABLE)".

Additionally, on these files it seems the ability to perform many simple tasks
is disabled, such as moving a layer or changing font.

Overall Gimp 2.10 seems like a massive improvement but I need to be able to work
on these files. Any help please?

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[2ward2]

Sadly, I found that the Wacom app doesn't always know that your tablet has the
latest driver. I had relied on that for many problems, including loss of
pressure sensitivity. When I went to the Wacom website, I downloaded the latest
driver for Windows 10, which fixed most of my problems. Now, I just have to
solve Gimp's not recognizing the eraser tip. It works with other apps, however,
making me think it's an incompatibility between Gimp 2.10.10 and the Wacom
driver that isn't common to other apps. My opinion is that since the function
works those "non-Gimp" apps, it's more likely to be a Gimp problem than Wacom's.

My workaround is to use the pen tip for every tool just by selecting them from
the toolbox.

Hope this helps!

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[2ward2]

>Hi everyone,
>I made this account because I can't seem to get my tablet set up to
>use pressure size correctly. Once I learned how to edit custom
>dynamics I thought things would be fine, however I seem to have come
>across even more problems which I can't find any solutions for.
>On one hand, the pressure size dynamic does work, hooray! Only now my
>pen and the drawing cursor are not lined up. When I go to put a line
>down the pencil goes off to the right and gets closer as I go left,
>possibly a resolution issue I'm led to believe, however this offset is
>only inside the drawing area, everywhere else is perfectly fine. Not
>only that, but when this occurs the button shortcuts I have set to the
>pen's two buttons seem to be ignored for what I imagine are the
>default settings and will not change back.
>My pen and eraser are both set to 'screen' in input settings and
>another forum said to ensure 'DirectX' is active in the controllers
>menu.
>I have tried multiple versions of GIMP and they all seem to give me
>the same problem.
>What can I do to make GIMP recognize the correct position of the
>cursor and the shortcuts?
>I can get additional details and screenshots if needed.
>BIG thanks in advance for nayone who helps.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 cannot open raw files

[Melleus via gimp-user-list]

Hi, all!

I had updated my GIMP installation to v2.10 recently. After that I've
lost the possibility to open raw files. I get the message proposing to
install either Darktable or Rawtherapee. But I have installed and working
Darktable in my system. Looks like v2.10 just cannot detect it. Also I
cannot setup particular raw processing program in preferences.

I use Gentoo (stable branch), GIMP 2.10.8 and Darktable 2.6.1.

Does anybody have a clue what's happening? Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Manual

[ajtiM via gimp-user-list]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 08:00:22 -0400
Mark Morin  wrote:

> typing "gimp 2.10 manual" into google gives, as the first link,
> https://www.gimp.org/docs/
> 
> 
> On 4/23/2019 7:15 AM, Jo Van Rafelghem via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > Hello 
> >
> > Can someone point me to a download link for both the GIMP 2.10
> > manual and the help package for the application. My version
> > instellend without the contextual help and pressing F1 keeps
> > pointing me to the online manual. 
> >
> > I suppose this question has been asked several times but I cannot
> > seem to find an answer readily. 
> >
> > Sincerely 
> >
> > Jo Van Rafelghem
> >

They don't have yet manual for Gimp 2.10 that you can install on your
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Manual

[Mark Morin]

typing "gimp 2.10 manual" into google gives, as the first link,
https://www.gimp.org/docs/


On 4/23/2019 7:15 AM, Jo Van Rafelghem via gimp-user-list wrote:
> Hello 
>
> Can someone point me to a download link for both the GIMP 2.10 manual and the 
> help package for the application. 
> My version instellend without the contextual help and pressing F1 keeps 
> pointing me to the online manual. 
>
> I suppose this question has been asked several times but I cannot seem to 
> find an answer readily. 
>
> Sincerely 
>
> Jo Van Rafelghem
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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Manual

[Jo Van Rafelghem via gimp-user-list]

Hello 

Can someone point me to a download link for both the GIMP 2.10 manual and the 
help package for the application. 
My version instellend without the contextual help and pressing F1 keeps 
pointing me to the online manual. 

I suppose this question has been asked several times but I cannot seem to find 
an answer readily. 

Sincerely 

Jo Van Rafelghem

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 embedded color profiles

[docrob]

This issue refers to GIMP 2.10.8 and Darktable 2.4.4, running in Linux (KDE).

When using GIMP's Darktable plugin, I think I am right in saying that that
closing Darktable always imports the image into GIMP in the form of a
floating point EXR file with profile linear Rec709 RGB. This is logical
since it is desirable to work with floating point precision in GIMP 2.10.

In most cases the desired final output from GIMP is a JPEG with sRGB profile
but I can find no settings which give me confidence that this is working
properly. In my case my starting point is Nikon NEF files. The Colorspace
information for the image that Darktable exports shows up in Image ->
Metadata -> View Metadata as:
Exif.Nikon3.ColorSpacesRGB
Exif.Photo.ColorSpace  Uncalibrated

I have been advised that some images that I sent out as JPEG files did not
contain an embedded profile, although GIMP's Image Properties insist that
they have the GIMP built-in sRGB. To add to the doubt, the Gwenview image
viewer, while it shows the full-sized image correctly, displays the
thumbnails much too dark.

I have found the only way to show the thumbnail correctly in Gwenview is to
reload the JPEG into GIMP, ensuring that the option to promote imported
images to floating point precision is unchecked, specifically assign the
GIMP built-in sRGB profile, then re-export as a JPEG. Curiously, this does
not change either of the two ColorSpace tags above.

This is obviously unsatisfactory in itself, but owing to the
Exif.Photo.ColorSpace tag remaining as Uncalibrated, I cannot be sure the
image has the sRGB profile embedded. By contrast, if I load a JPEG file from
the camera into GIMP, both tags are set to sRGB and there is no problem with
thumbnails.

I would be grateful if someone could confirm whether the above behaviour is
expected and if so, what would be a suitable work-around.

Rob



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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 Tool Options

[Carusoswi]

So, I click on the quick mask tool (or whatever you call it), and then I open
the Brushes "pane", select a brush, but cannot size it unless I then open the
tool options "pane". That actually worked once.   Now I get nothing when I click
Tool Options at the top of the "pane" which offes "Layers Naviation" tag, "Tool
Options" tab, "Gradients" Tab, and "Brushes" tab.

If I click the "Brushes" tab, the familiar "pane" showing various brush options
appears, so I must be on the right track.

I cannot do any selecting with the quick mask until I can at least resize my
brush.

I am certain it is something simple that I am missing.

Please help.

Thanks.

Caruso

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 autocrop equivalent

[mgwong]

>It is the alpha channel which interferes.
>
>1. Using the Gimp 2.10 measure tool for straightening, recommend set
>"Clipping" to clip.
>
>2. Apply that and then consider the background colour. If it is white
>as your example the skip the next. Photographs often have an off-white
>value .
>
>3. If needed, colour-pick the background color and then Layer ->
>Transparency -> Remove alpha channel. That should give a solid uniform
>background.
>
>4. Apply zealous crop or crop to content.
>
>A better way for the background colour might be using the
>resynthesizer/heal-transparency plugins. (***don't use*** the
>registry-plugin deb package for this, grab them separately) then
>remove alpha.
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net


Thanks for the tip about resynthesizer.  I downloaded and compiled it and it
works:):)  Something I use quite frequently :)

:):)

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 autocrop equivalent

[mgwong]

>Apologies, as usual not paying enough attention to what you want as an
>outcome.
>
>You could try this plugin StraightCrop. Comes from the now defunct
>gimp-plugin-registry site. Tried in Kubuntu 16.04 Gimp 2.10.8 flatpak
>so should work on your 18.04 installation.
>
>The plugin attached, unzip and put in your Gimp user profile
>~/.config/GIMP/2.10/plug-ins
>
>The permissions should already be set but check for executable anyway.
>
>In action, make a straight path then menu Image -> Transform ->
>Straighten & Crop
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Thanks so much for solving my problem:)   The answer was there under my nose all
the time  but I didn't register its importance until I read your reply.  In both
"straightening using the measure tool" and "straightening by corrective
rotation", then  using clipping with the "crop to result " option  gives a
result in which "Image: crop to content" gives what I want.

Thanks so much for your help:):) 



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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 autocrop equivalent

[mgwong]

>Apologies, as usual not paying enough attention to what you want as an
>outcome.
>
>You could try this plugin StraightCrop. Comes from the now defunct
>gimp-plugin-registry site. Tried in Kubuntu 16.04 Gimp 2.10.8 flatpak
>so should work on your 18.04 installation.
>
>The plugin attached, unzip and put in your Gimp user profile
>~/.config/GIMP/2.10/plug-ins
>
>The permissions should already be set but check for executable anyway.
>
>In action, make a straight path then menu Image -> Transform ->
>Straighten & Crop
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Thanks so much for solving my problem:)   The answer was there under my nose all
the time  but I didn't register its importance until I read your reply.  In both
"straightening using the measure tool" and "straightening by corrective
rotation", then  using clipping with the "crop to result " option  gives a
result in which "Image: crop to content" gives what I want.

Thanks so much for your help:):) 



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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 autocrop equivalent

[mgwong]

Dear Helpers

I have recently updated to Gimp 2.10 (under Ubuntu 18.04). I use Gimp
extensively for processing photos.  One very common problem is having the photo
tilted by a few degrees.  It is easy to straighten it using the rotate tool or
the new way via the measurement tool.  In Gimp 2.8 it used to be very easy to
crop off any excess using the autocrop tool.  However nothing I have tried works
that way in Gimp 2.10.

I created a small image to demonstrate what happens.  On the left is my "photo"
a bit out of whack;). IN the middle is a screen shot of the image after
rotation.  The third is what I would like, which autocrop under Gimp 2.8 would
create.   In GImp 2.10, if I "crop to content" (under Image menu item) then I
get an error message saying "cannot crop because the image is already cropped to
content". Using "crop to selection" then the grey border inside the yellow
dotted lines disappears which is what one would expect.  I would like the crop
to be such that it crops off the outer section plus  all the transparent
sections.

I have searched for an answer but could not get the results as described in 
http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/20922-crop-to-selection-not-working

Any help would be much appreciated:)

Thanks

Margaret  

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* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1059/original/Autocrophelp.jpg

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 autocrop equivalent

[rich404]

>Dear Helpers
>
>I have recently updated to Gimp 2.10 (under Ubuntu 18.04). I use Gimp
>extensively for processing photos.  One very common problem is having
>the photo tilted by a few degrees.  It is easy to straighten it using
>the rotate tool or the new way via the measurement tool.  In Gimp 2.8
>it used to be very easy to crop off any excess using the autocrop
>tool.  However nothing I have tried works that way in Gimp 2.10.
>
>I created a small image to demonstrate what happens.  On the left is
>my "photo" a bit out of whack;). IN the middle is a screen shot of the
>image after rotation.  The third is what I would like, which autocrop
>under Gimp 2.8 would create.   In GImp 2.10, if I "crop to content"
>(under Image menu item) then I get an error message saying "cannot
>crop because the image is already cropped to content". Using "crop to
>selection" then the grey border inside the yellow dotted lines
>disappears which is what one would expect.  I would like the crop to
>be such that it crops off the outer section plus  all the transparent
>sections.
>
>I have searched for an answer but could not get the results as
>described in
>http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/20922-crop-to-selection-not-working
>
>Any help would be much appreciated:)
>
>Thanks
>
>Margaret

It is the alpha channel which interferes.

1. Using the Gimp 2.10 measure tool for straightening, recommend set "Clipping"
to clip.

2. Apply that and then consider the background colour. If it is white as your
example the skip the next. Photographs often have an off-white value .

3. If needed, colour-pick the background color and then Layer -> Transparency ->
Remove alpha channel. That should give a solid uniform background.

4. Apply zealous crop or crop to content.

A better way for the background colour might be using the
resynthesizer/heal-transparency plugins. (***don't use*** the registry-plugin
deb package for this, grab them separately) then remove alpha.

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1060/original/01-crop.jpg
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1061/original/02-crop.jpg

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 autocrop equivalent

[rich404]

>It is the alpha channel which interferes.
>
Apologies, as usual not paying enough attention to what you want as an outcome.

You could try this plugin StraightCrop. Comes from the now defunct
gimp-plugin-registry site. Tried in Kubuntu 16.04 Gimp 2.10.8 flatpak so should
work on your 18.04 installation.

The plugin attached, unzip and put in your Gimp user profile
~/.config/GIMP/2.10/plug-ins

The permissions should already be set but check for executable anyway.

In action, make a straight path then menu Image -> Transform -> Straighten &
Crop

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1062/original/03-crop.jpg
* 
http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1063/original/StraightenCrop_0.py.zip

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[HobbyArtist]

Hey, with 2.10.8 up, I had a lot of issues. I made sure I had the latest driver
from Huion; didn't work. I tried uninstalling and re-installling 2.10.8. Nada.
I switched back to 2.8. It was abysmal, and wouldn't work for me. 

I fixed my issue by going into the update mainframe on gimp, and downloading
2.10.6, It still has occasional issues with closing suddenly, but they had a
pattern, instead of randomly happening. 2.10.6 would only suddenly close if
there was too much taxing your system, and if it had been up for more than 3
hours. But, and with my h420 tablet button set to press and save, I can
anticipate this and save at the drop of a hat.

This worked for my issues with 2.10.8 when nothing else would. I hope that this
at least provides you with ideas on finding your fix!

Cheers!

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[bunnyninjaface]

I don't know if you've gotten an answer to the issue with the pen and the cursor
not lining up, but I made this account so I can give you my solution.
What worked for me was turning off the "force proportions" button in the tablet
settings, and instead manually trying to match up the active area with the
screen. It's a bit annoying, and if you ever have to change the active area you
have to match it up again, but it works. My active area is set to 4046 x 7337,
and that is the perfect ratio for me, but your screen might be a different size
or aspect ratio.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Color Problems

[james81]

>It looks like you are working on a color-indexed image (opened a GIF?)
>,
>and not on a plain RGB one.
>
>Use Image>Mode>RGB to convert.

What can I say except THANK YOU for nailing my stupid problem. When you reach my
advanced age, the brain has a tendency to malfunction.

Seriously, many thanks. :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Color Problems

[Ofnuts]

On 08/17/18 19:20, james81 wrote:

1. Using GIMP 2.10.4

I have need to duplicate objects in GIMP, changing only the colors in each
duplication.

I have not been able to do this since installing 2.10.

The colors cannot be selected and when I paint the object the color is something
completely different from what I selected.

It actually prevents me from using GIMP and I am now about to revert back to
GIMP 2.8.

Any suggestions?

Thank you

It looks like you are working on a color-indexed image (opened a GIF?) , 
and not on a plain RGB one.


Use Image>Mode>RGB to convert.


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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Color Problems

[s7habo]

>1. Using GIMP 2.10.4
>
>I have need to duplicate objects in GIMP, changing only the colors in
>each duplication.
>
>I have not been able to do this since installing 2.10.
>
>The colors cannot be selected and when I paint the object the color is
>something completely different from what I selected.
>
>It actually prevents me from using GIMP and I am now about to revert
>back to GIMP 2.8.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thank you

Hi,

Can you please show a few examples? It's hard to understand what you do exactly.
As far as I know, color selection in GIMP 2.10 has not been changed.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Color Problems

[james81]

1. Using GIMP 2.10.4

I have need to duplicate objects in GIMP, changing only the colors in each
duplication.

I have not been able to do this since installing 2.10.

The colors cannot be selected and when I paint the object the color is something
completely different from what I selected.

It actually prevents me from using GIMP and I am now about to revert back to
GIMP 2.8.

Any suggestions?

Thank you

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 always use Anti-aliasing when import pdf.

[Michael Schumacher]

On 08/02/2018 03:59 PM, rich404 wrote:

> This is the response you get.
> 
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/1007
> 
> Worked for Schumacher in gimp 2.8  a year ago so there is no problem.

You seem to want to drag me into this.

Reread the bug report, and you will realize that you got some comments
wrong.

I kept the report open back then because that fact that I couldn't
reproduce it in 2.9.22 does not necessarily mean that the original
reporter (with 2.8.18) would see the same. Unfortunately they never
wrote any further comments.

The messages you interpreted as issue 1007 being closed were your issue
being closed as a duplicate.

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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 always use Anti-aliasing when import pdf.

[rich404]

>https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/1007
>
>Looks like it was reported a year ago.  The anti-aliasing toggle does
>work for me in Gimp 2.8.22 (kubuntu 16.04)
>
>but not Gimp 2.10.4 (kubuntu 16.04 flatpak) 
>
>I think I will update that bug report.

This is the response you get.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/1007

Worked for Schumacher in gimp 2.8  a year ago so there is no problem.

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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 always use Anti-aliasing when import pdf.

[Boyss]

Original picture don't have antialiasing. I import pdf picture and uncheck the
use anti-aliasing in checkbox .But my picture always get anti-aliasing.
How to disable this?


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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 always use Anti-aliasing when import pdf.

[rich404]

>Original picture don't have antialiasing. I import pdf picture and
>uncheck the use anti-aliasing in checkbox .But my picture always get
>anti-aliasing.
>How to disable this?

This is for vectors in the PDF? - clipart type images, text..

I can confirm for vectors, obviously not embedded bitmaps.

Looks like it is a bug, always get anti-aliasing.  You should report it.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/

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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.10 always use Anti-aliasing when import pdf.

[rich404]

>This is for vectors in the PDF? - clipart type images, text..
>
>I can confirm for vectors, obviously not embedded bitmaps.
>
>Looks like it is a bug, always get anti-aliasing.  You should report
>it.
>
>https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/1007

Looks like it was reported a year ago.  The anti-aliasing toggle does work for
me in Gimp 2.8.22 (kubuntu 16.04)

but not Gimp 2.10.4 (kubuntu 16.04 flatpak) 

I think I will update that bug report.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[Konrad]

Am 16.07.2018 um 19:23 schrieb Rein5:
Hi everyone, I made this account because I can't seem to get my tablet 
set up to use pressure size correctly. Once I learned how to edit 
custom dynamics I thought things would be fine, however I seem to have 
come across even more problems which I can't find any solutions for. 
On one hand, the pressure size dynamic does work, hooray! Only now my 
pen and the drawing cursor are not lined up. When I go to put a line 
down the pencil goes off to the right and gets closer as I go left, 
possibly a resolution issue I'm led to believe, however this offset is 
only inside the drawing area, everywhere else is perfectly fine. Not 
only that, but when this occurs the button shortcuts I have set to the 
pen's two buttons seem to be ignored for what I imagine are the 
default settings and will not change back. My pen and eraser are both 
set to 'screen' in input settings and another forum said to ensure 
'DirectX' is active in the controllers menu. I have tried multiple 
versions of GIMP and they all seem to give me the same problem.

Hi,

I use a Wacom Cintiq and  from time to time the same problem has 
happened to me.
I think it's not a GIMP's problem: After calibrating my Wacom everything 
was fine. Hope this will work!


Konrad

What can I do to make GIMP recognize the correct position of the 
cursor and the shortcuts?
I can get additional details and screenshots if needed. BIG thanks in 
advance for nayone who helps.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[Richard via gimp-user-list]

Sadly GIMP (and/or GTK+) isn't entirely predictable when it comes to tablet 
problems


I've never had problems with Wacom tablets on my GIMP installation (aside from 
the occasional failure to detect the tablet at all), unfortunately I'm not 
quite sure I understand the description.  Nonetheless, here's a few quick 
things to check / rule out:


- Screen/window mode.  It should definitely be set to "Screen", so this doesn't 
seem to be the cause

- Pen/mouse mode.  If, for example, you pick up the pen from point A and put it 
down on point B but the cursor doesn't immediately snap to the new location, 
then you've got the stylus set on mouse (relative movement) mode.  Check your 
Wacom tablet control panel to be sure it's on Pen (absolute movement) mode.


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Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.

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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:23:02 AM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

Hi everyone,
I made this account because I can't seem to get my tablet set up to use pressure
size correctly. Once I learned how to edit custom dynamics I thought things
would be fine, however I seem to have come across even more problems which I
can't find any solutions for.
On one hand, the pressure size dynamic does work, hooray! Only now my pen and
the drawing cursor are not lined up. When I go to put a line down the pencil
goes off to the right and gets closer as I go left, possibly a resolution issue
I'm led to believe, however this offset is only inside the drawing area,
everywhere else is perfectly fine. Not only that, but when this occurs the
button shortcuts I have set to the pen's two buttons seem to be ignored for what
I imagine are the default settings and will not change back.
My pen and eraser are both set to 'screen' in input settings and another forum
said to ensure 'DirectX' is active in the controllers menu.
I have tried multiple versions of GIMP and they all seem to give me the same
problem.
What can I do to make GIMP recognize the correct position of the cursor and the
shortcuts?
I can get additional details and screenshots if needed.
BIG thanks in advance for nayone who helps.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 / WACOM Issues?

[Rein5]

Hi everyone,
I made this account because I can't seem to get my tablet set up to use pressure
size correctly. Once I learned how to edit custom dynamics I thought things
would be fine, however I seem to have come across even more problems which I
can't find any solutions for.
On one hand, the pressure size dynamic does work, hooray! Only now my pen and
the drawing cursor are not lined up. When I go to put a line down the pencil
goes off to the right and gets closer as I go left, possibly a resolution issue
I'm led to believe, however this offset is only inside the drawing area,
everywhere else is perfectly fine. Not only that, but when this occurs the
button shortcuts I have set to the pen's two buttons seem to be ignored for what
I imagine are the default settings and will not change back.
My pen and eraser are both set to 'screen' in input settings and another forum
said to ensure 'DirectX' is active in the controllers menu.
I have tried multiple versions of GIMP and they all seem to give me the same
problem.
What can I do to make GIMP recognize the correct position of the cursor and the
shortcuts?
I can get additional details and screenshots if needed.
BIG thanks in advance for nayone who helps.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 Toggle between image window and toolbox

[programmer_ceds]

In V2.8.xx it was possible (on Windows at any rate) to toggle between the image
window and the toolbox by simply pressing the Tab key. This made using
multi-window views easier when using a single monitor.

In V2.10 with the image window displayed (the toolbox hidden behind it) pressing
Tab just causes the Toolbox button to appear or disappear in the taskbar. If the
toolbox is in front of the image window pressing Tab simply steps through the
options/fields in the toolbox.

Is there any way that I am missing to get similar behaviour to V2.8 ?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[Richard via gimp-user-list]

Personally, I'd think the idea behind the "Link" buttons is that any changes 
you make to the brush settings in the Tool Options will be reflected in the 
brush file (as if you'd made those changes in the Brush Editor) and, thus, when 
you pick that brush again it will have the same settings you left it at the 
last time.


HOWEVER, this does not seem to be the case at all (nor is it helped by the 
built-in brushes being read-only) so essentially, the "Link" button is just an 
"auto-revert" function, which I cannot see any practical use for currently and 
have to wonder why someone thought it should be enabled by default.  
(anyone...?)

Just turn it OFF.


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Subject: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

Not what I would call obvious - but its the answer the OP was looking for.
Thanks.

>Hold on, this is apparently a new feature not a bug.  There's a new
>set of buttons in the toolboxes called "link to brush default" (next
>to the "reset to native size" buttons) and these are on by default.
>Turn it off and you should be good to go.
>
>
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[programmer_ceds]

Not what I would call obvious - but its the answer the OP was looking for.
Thanks.

>Hold on, this is apparently a new feature not a bug.  There's a new
>set of buttons in the toolboxes called "link to brush default" (next
>to the "reset to native size" buttons) and these are on by default. 
>Turn it off and you should be good to go.
>
>
>-- Stratadrake
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>
>Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[Richard via gimp-user-list]

Hold on, this is apparently a new feature not a bug.  There's a new set of 
buttons in the toolboxes called "link to brush default" (next to the "reset to 
native size" buttons) and these are on by default.  Turn it off and you should 
be good to go.


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Subject: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

Sorry, misread your question as the brush size varying between tools.

I don't know whether this is a deliberate decision or an unwanted side-effect of
the changes to the brushes - either way I can see what a pain it would be to
those who use a number of brushes (it even resets the size when going back to a
brush for which you have set the size!)

You could try reporting it as a bug - then we would find out if it was a
deliberate change.

In the meantime I have a couple of suggestions.

Firstly the third post in the following thread describes how to set GIMP so that
you can adjust the brush size using the mouse wheel.

http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/17876-changing-the-brush-sizes

Secondly it should be a simple exercise to write a script that would take as a
parameter the brush size that you want to use. Running the script should set the
brush size (using (gimp-context-set-brush-size size)). When you change brushes
you would then simply have to re-run the script - use "Filters/Repeat Last"
short-cut Ctrl-F (or you could change this short-cut to a single key press if
you want). This would probably be the best approach short of getting the problem
fixed. If you have problems writing a script let me know and I will see what I
can do.

>I tried that. It doesn't work. That setting is already checked but it
>keeps reverting the brush size anyway.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[programmer_ceds]

Sorry, misread your question as the brush size varying between tools.

I don't know whether this is a deliberate decision or an unwanted side-effect of
the changes to the brushes - either way I can see what a pain it would be to
those who use a number of brushes (it even resets the size when going back to a
brush for which you have set the size!)

You could try reporting it as a bug - then we would find out if it was a
deliberate change.

In the meantime I have a couple of suggestions.

Firstly the third post in the following thread describes how to set GIMP so that
you can adjust the brush size using the mouse wheel.

http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/17876-changing-the-brush-sizes

Secondly it should be a simple exercise to write a script that would take as a
parameter the brush size that you want to use. Running the script should set the
brush size (using (gimp-context-set-brush-size size)). When you change brushes
you would then simply have to re-run the script - use "Filters/Repeat Last"
short-cut Ctrl-F (or you could change this short-cut to a single key press if
you want). This would probably be the best approach short of getting the problem
fixed. If you have problems writing a script let me know and I will see what I
can do.

>I tried that. It doesn't work. That setting is already checked but it
>keeps reverting the brush size anyway.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[programmer_ceds]

I have just written a script to set the brush size.

Put the script in your personal scripts folder.

The first time it is run (each GIMP session) it offers 15 as the default brush
size - if you want a different default size just edit the 15 in line 40 to the
value of your choice.

The script should appear in "Filters/Set Brush Size/Set Brush Size"

As I said above pressing Ctrl-F will simply repeat the script and set a new
brush to the size last set by the script. Changing Ctrl-F to a single keypress
would speed things. (this does assume that you aren't running other scripts in
the mean time. If you are you could assign a short-cut to the Set Brush Size
script - use the short cut, press Enter and you will have the last brush size
that you set.

To set a different brush size for the script simply re-run it.

Hope this helps

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/951/original/SetBrushSize.scm

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[katz]

I tried that. It doesn't work. That setting is already checked but it keeps
reverting the brush size anyway.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[programmer_ceds]

In 2.10 go to "Edit/Preferences/Tool  Options"

In the "Paint Options Shared Between Tools" set the "Brush" option.

This was the same in GIMP 2.8

>In 2.8, Gimp kept the current brush size when you switched between
>brushes. In 2.10, whenever you switch to a different brush, it changes
>the size to the default size for that brush (51 for the basic round
>brushes). This is absolutely never the size I want.
>
>Can I do either of the following:
>
>-Change this setting so that it keeps the current brush size when you
>switch brushes, as it did in 2.8.
>
>-Barring that, change the default brush size. This must be for ALL
>brushes--I can't use the brush editor to change them individually, as
>I have over 500 brushes.
>
>I need to do one of these or else I'll have to revert back to 2.8. I
>don't have time to continually change back my brush size.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: bush default size

[katz]

In 2.8, Gimp kept the current brush size when you switched between brushes. In
2.10, whenever you switch to a different brush, it changes the size to the
default size for that brush (51 for the basic round brushes). This is absolutely
never the size I want.

Can I do either of the following:

-Change this setting so that it keeps the current brush size when you switch
brushes, as it did in 2.8.

-Barring that, change the default brush size. This must be for ALL brushes--I
can't use the brush editor to change them individually, as I have over 500
brushes.

I need to do one of these or else I'll have to revert back to 2.8. I don't have
time to continually change back my brush size.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 for Mac [User manual]

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 9:38 AM, user07 wrote:
> ... Guess there is still no way to have an offline updated version of Gimp's
> help/user manual
>
> Is that right?

Correct.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 for Mac [User manual]

[user07]

... Guess there is still no way to have an offline updated version of Gimp's
help/user manual

Is that right?

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 clone brushes appear as X

[Carusoswi]

>On 2018-05-29 19:08:59 Richard wrote:
>I've wished for something like that for a long time.
>
>Leslie

It's a feature that I find very useful when I am using Photoshop, although, to
be truthful, I rarely use PS these days.  I maintain my subscription, and I dug
in to actually learn how to use LR (which raised my tolerance to actually give
DT an honest try), but the open source aspect of GIMP, and now, darktable
(which, for me is far superior to LR in actually manipulating images) has always
appealed to me.  Additionally, Linux has always seemed to just run with less
fuss than Windows.

Back to that cloning feature, it's very useful, but, otherwise, I find the GIMP
implementation of cloning to be the cat's meow.  Perspective cloning, IMO, is
just so intuitive and useful, straight forward and easy to use.  I love it.

OK, I shall descend from my soapbox, now.

Caruso

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: Line style dialog in Stroke Path won't open

[akovia]

GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.10.2
Linux  4.16.13-1-ARCH x86_64

Working now. Not sure what's changed but will try to troubleshoot further if it 
happens again.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018, at 6:24 PM, Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list wrote:
> 
> It probably would be a good idea to be a little more specific
> which version of GIMP you (pl) have, and for which operating
> system.  Also, probably, what you did to get to the point at which
> you are having the problem.
> 
> 
> For instance, I have GIMP 2.10.2, with which I just tested this
> issue on Lubuntu Next 17.10.  The version I have was obtained from
> the PPA @ http://ppa.launchpad.net/otto-kesselgulasch/gimp/ubuntu/
> which was added to the Ubuntu repositories.
> The specific package version for my system was:
> 2.10.2+omg-0ubu17.10.1~ppa
> 
> 
> 
> For ME, the "Line Style" sub-dialog shows up just fine, whether
> I click on the "+" or press Alt-L (as M_ Lork described).
> [I had previously opened up a .jpg, did a rectangle-select, did a 
> Select->To Path, right-clicked on the path and opened the Stroke Path
> dialog.]
> -
> akovia akov...@eml.cc
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Same issue here.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Lork wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > had to switch back to version 2.8 because in 2.10, I can't open "Line 
> > style" in
> > the Stroke Path dialog. With "Stroke line" selected, neither clicking on the
> > plus sign nor pressing Alt-L will show any reaction.
> > 
> > Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
> > 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: Line style dialog in Stroke Path won't open

[akovia]

Just a heads up that it worked today. I haven't updated so there is a trigger 
that is making it work or fail. Will post if I figure out more.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018, at 5:47 PM, akovia wrote:
> Same issue here.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Lork wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > had to switch back to version 2.8 because in 2.10, I can't open "Line 
> > style" in
> > the Stroke Path dialog. With "Stroke line" selected, neither clicking on the
> > plus sign nor pressing Alt-L will show any reaction.
> > 
> > Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
> > 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: Line style dialog in Stroke Path won't open

[Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list]

It probably would be a good idea to be a little more specific
which version of GIMP you (pl) have, and for which operating
system.  Also, probably, what you did to get to the point at which
you are having the problem.


For instance, I have GIMP 2.10.2, with which I just tested this
issue on Lubuntu Next 17.10.  The version I have was obtained from
the PPA @ http://ppa.launchpad.net/otto-kesselgulasch/gimp/ubuntu/
which was added to the Ubuntu repositories.
The specific package version for my system was:
2.10.2+omg-0ubu17.10.1~ppa



For ME, the "Line Style" sub-dialog shows up just fine, whether
I click on the "+" or press Alt-L (as M_ Lork described).
[I had previously opened up a .jpg, did a rectangle-select, did a 
Select->To Path, right-clicked on the path and opened the Stroke Path
dialog.]
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Same issue here.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Lork wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> had to switch back to version 2.8 because in 2.10, I can't open "Line style" 
> in
> the Stroke Path dialog. With "Stroke line" selected, neither clicking on the
> plus sign nor pressing Alt-L will show any reaction.
> 
> Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: Line style dialog in Stroke Path won't open

[akovia]

Same issue here.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Lork wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> had to switch back to version 2.8 because in 2.10, I can't open "Line style" 
> in
> the Stroke Path dialog. With "Stroke line" selected, neither clicking on the
> plus sign nor pressing Alt-L will show any reaction.
> 
> Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
> 
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10: Line style dialog in Stroke Path won't open

[Lork]

Hi,

had to switch back to version 2.8 because in 2.10, I can't open "Line style" in
the Stroke Path dialog. With "Stroke line" selected, neither clicking on the
plus sign nor pressing Alt-L will show any reaction.

Anyone else experiencing the same issue?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 clone brushes appear as X

[Leslie Turriff]

On 2018-05-29 19:08:59 Richard wrote:
> > The only thing that I would wish for is PS's anticipatory view such that,
> >
> > when trying to align during cloning (say a row of barbed wire), you see
> >
> > where your destination pixels will fall before you commit to the clone.
>
> Now there's an idea - an option so once the clone source is set, instead of
> / in addition to the normal brush outline it shows a translucent preview of
> the source region (masked by the brush shape).
I've wished for something like that for a long time.

Leslie
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 clone brushes appear as X

[Richard]

> The only thing that I would wish for is PS's anticipatory view such that,

> when trying to align during cloning (say a row of barbed wire), you see

> where your destination pixels will fall before you commit to the clone.


Now there's an idea - an option so once the clone source is set, instead of / 
in addition to the normal brush outline it shows a translucent preview of the 
source region (masked by the brush shape).


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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 6:40 PM
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Subject: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 clone brushes appear as X

>Both my regular clone brush and my perspective clone brush appears as
>an X.  In perspective clone, I cannot seem to select a source.
>Any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks.
>Caruso

Alright, I hit reset for all parameters in this dialog, and that seems to have
done the trick.  I have always thought Gimp's implementation of the cloning tool
(especially its perspective cloning) was better than anything else out there.
Working in 2.10 this evening reinforces my opinion.  The only thing that I would
wish for is PS's anticipatory view such that, when trying to align during
cloning (say a row of barbed wire), you see where your destination pixels will
fall before you commit to the clone.  Absent that very nice feature, I would
wish for a way to undo a destination click such that the source remains in place
so that you could click several times by trial and error to fine tune position
of the source pixels.

This is an issue with which my concerns are mild.  The clone tool as is does a
wonderful job.

Ubuntu must have pushed 2.10 out to me in an upgrade, as I had been running a
2.9x version.

It was a pleasant surprise to open Gimp and find 2.10 installed.  Seems to run
nicely on my Ubuntu 18.04 setup.

Thanks and congrats to the developers.

Caruso

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 clone brushes appear as X

[Carusoswi]

>Both my regular clone brush and my perspective clone brush appears as
>an X.  In perspective clone, I cannot seem to select a source.
>Any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks.
>Caruso

Alright, I hit reset for all parameters in this dialog, and that seems to have
done the trick.  I have always thought Gimp's implementation of the cloning tool
(especially its perspective cloning) was better than anything else out there. 
Working in 2.10 this evening reinforces my opinion.  The only thing that I would
wish for is PS's anticipatory view such that, when trying to align during
cloning (say a row of barbed wire), you see where your destination pixels will
fall before you commit to the clone.  Absent that very nice feature, I would
wish for a way to undo a destination click such that the source remains in place
so that you could click several times by trial and error to fine tune position
of the source pixels.

This is an issue with which my concerns are mild.  The clone tool as is does a
wonderful job.

Ubuntu must have pushed 2.10 out to me in an upgrade, as I had been running a
2.9x version.

It was a pleasant surprise to open Gimp and find 2.10 installed.  Seems to run
nicely on my Ubuntu 18.04 setup.

Thanks and congrats to the developers.

Caruso

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 clone brushes appear as X

[Carusoswi]

Both my regular clone brush and my perspective clone brush appears as an X.  In
perspective clone, I cannot seem to select a source.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Caruso

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 TIFF EXIF metadata stripped on Windows 10

[MartinFa]

Ok, fixed, but don't know what was causing the problem. 

The metadata was being correctly imported & exported in tiff files on my Win 10
laptop running Gimp 2.10.0. On my Win 10 PC - also running Gimp 2.10.0 - the
metadata was getting stripped when loading a tiff file into Gimp.

I just uninstalled Gimp 2.10.0 & installed Gimp 2.10.2 on my PC and problem no
longer exists.

>This is getting stranger...
>
>I'm away from home right now, since last night, & using GIMP 2.10 on
>my laptop - Win 10, once again. I can't reproduce the problem on this
>machine. I thought it might be to do with the fact that the original
>tiff files I was playing with on my desktop at home were Black &
>White, but I just tried with B/W (and colour) tiffs from the same
>photo scanner here on my laptop: all seems ok.
>
>I'll have another look on my desktop machine when I get home next
>week.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 Problem

[Draglor]

Good day

I installed Gimp 2.10 today. I looks good and runs great but.
when I draw a line with any tool, I do not see the line until I 
release the mouse button.

Is there a setting I need to change to stop this from happening?


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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 for Mac

[user07]

[User Manual]
Hope I won't go OT (or, at least, not too much...)

Anyway, I'm on OsX and I'm using Partha's Gimp version (which run great :) !)

I was just wondering if anything is doable about an up-to-date version of the
User Manual...

So far, the only way I was/am able to have offline help while using Gimp was:
- to create a 'help' folder [share → gimp → 2.0]
- to copy in it a folder (downloaded can't_even_remember_where o.O ) containing
.html copies of the whole 2.8 GIMP User Manual ( https://docs.gimp.org/2.8/it/ )

Actually I've copied these files and I'm still using them, but I see an updated
version of the Manual is out ( https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/it/ )... so, is there
any known way to use it offline?

Thanks for help!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 and exif-information

[Johann Spies]

I have exported a tif file from Darktable:

% exiv2 DSC_3804.tif
File name   : DSC_3804.tif
File size   : 30541086 Bytes
MIME type   : image/tiff
Image size  : 1920 x 1595
Camera make : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera model: NIKON D50
Image timestamp : 2011:04:19 21:01:07
Image number: 
Exposure time   : 1/200 s
Aperture: F32
Exposure bias   : 0 EV
Flash   : No flash
Flash bias  : 
Focal length: 90.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 135.0 mm)
Subject distance: 
ISO speed   : 800
Exposure mode   : Manual
Metering mode   : Multi-segment
Macro mode  : 
Image quality   : RAW
Exif Resolution : 1920 x 1595
White balance   : AUTO
Thumbnail   : None
Copyright   : 
Exif comment: 


Then I opened it in Gimp2.10 and exported it to a jpg, png and renamed tif 
file. In all those cases (exported by Gimp) the exif-information looked like 
this:

% exiv2 DSC_3802.tif
File name   : DSC_3802.tif
File size   : 36912158 Bytes
MIME type   : image/tiff
Image size  : 1920 x 1595
Camera make : 
Camera model: 
Image timestamp : 
Image number: 
Exposure time   : 
Aperture: 
Exposure bias   : 
Flash   : 
Flash bias  : 
Focal length: 
Subject distance: 
ISO speed   : 
Exposure mode   : 
Metering mode   : 
Macro mode  : 
Image quality   : 
Exif Resolution : 1920 x 1595
White balance   : 
Thumbnail   : None
Copyright   : 
Exif comment: 

As you can see, most of the information in the original file was lost.

This is a serious problem for me if I want to use Gimp in my
postprosessing of photographs.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 very slow

[JLuc]

Le 09/05/2018 à 12:57, Shlomi Fish a écrit :

tried it in an 18.04 vm with gimp from this ppa -
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/04/how-to-install-gimp-2-10-in-ubuntu-18-04-17-10-via-ppa/
- it runs quickly and wo any major problem.


on Ubuntu 17.10 I followed your link and installed this ppa's version
Gimp runs fine and takes about 2 or 3 seconds to launch the first time.

I'll keep this version and get rid of 2 other installed versions :
- snap version is the quicker and launches allmost instantly
but the menu's font is wrong (looks like some courrier font)
and there are right issues : i cant access folders and read files
- flatpak is the slower and takes 4-5 seconds the first time

With 16Go Ram
JL

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 TIFF EXIF metadata stripped on Windows 10

[MartinFa]

This is getting stranger...

I'm away from home right now, since last night, & using GIMP 2.10 on my laptop -
Win 10, once again. I can't reproduce the problem on this machine. I thought it
might be to do with the fact that the original tiff files I was playing with on
my desktop at home were Black & White, but I just tried with B/W (and colour)
tiffs from the same photo scanner here on my laptop: all seems ok.

I'll have another look on my desktop machine when I get home next week.

>Thanks for the reply.
>
>I start off with .tif files which have EXIF (and other) metadata
>within them - as added by my photo scanner, photo library software
>(Synology's Photo Station) and/or from ExifTool - Original & create
>dates; User note; copyright, GPS, various tags. These are all present
>and displayed in ExifToolGUI. As soon as I open the .tif file in GIMP
>2.10 and go... Image -> Metadata -> View Metadata, nothing is shown.
>When I then export the modified image as a .tif and check it with
>ExifToolGUI, all the metadata has been stripped out.
>
>If I try this starting with a similar .jpg file, the metadata is
>displayed correctly in GIMP. Exporting an orginal .jpg as a .jpg
>preserves the EXIF metadata correctly, as does exporting it as a TIFF.
>
>I do have the settings to export all the metadata types in Edit ->
>Preferences -> Image Import & Export, but it looks to me like the
>metadata is being stripped out on opening the TIFF file in GIMP and
>not during the export.
>
>However - taking this a step further - If I start with a ,jpg that
>contains metadata; open it in GIMP; export it as a .tif, close &
>re-start GIMP (not sure if this bit is relevant); open the .tif file I
>just created from the original .jpg, then the metadata is preserved.
>
>I'm wondering of there's some strange formatting of my original .tif
>files that GIMP is struggling with?

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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.10 TIFF EXIF metadata stripped on Windows 10

[MartinFa]

Thanks for the reply.

I start off with .tif files which have EXIF (and other) metadata within them -
as added by my photo scanner, photo library software (Synology's Photo Station)
and/or from ExifTool - Original & create dates; User note; copyright, GPS,
various tags. These are all present and displayed in ExifToolGUI. As soon as I
open the .tif file in GIMP 2.10 and go... Image -> Metadata -> View Metadata,
nothing is shown. When I then export the modified image as a .tif and check it
with ExifToolGUI, all the metadata has been stripped out.

If I try this starting with a similar .jpg file, the metadata is displayed
correctly in GIMP. Exporting an orginal .jpg as a .jpg preserves the EXIF
metadata correctly, as does exporting it as a TIFF.

I do have the settings to export all the metadata types in Edit -> Preferences
-> Image Import & Export, but it looks to me like the metadata is being stripped
out on opening the TIFF file in GIMP and not during the export.

However - taking this a step further - If I start with a ,jpg that contains
metadata; open it in GIMP; export it as a .tif, close & re-start GIMP (not sure
if this bit is relevant); open the .tif file I just created from the original
.jpg, then the metadata is preserved.

I'm wondering of there's some strange formatting of my original .tif files that
GIMP is struggling with?

>I'm using Windows 7, rather than 10, but i have just imported a JPG
>and then exported it as a TIFF - the EXIF information was preserved
>(the focal length tag is an EXIF, rather than TIFF, tag and this was
>still present).
>
>By default the saving of EXIF information should be on but it would be
>worth checking in the Advanced Options when exporting  that this is
>enabled. If it is you could repeat what I have tried - openJPG, export
>as TIFF. If the EXIF data is preserved then the problem could be in
>the importing of the TIFF EXIF data (if you are sure that your
>original TIFF image does have the EXIF data). If the JPG to TIFF
>process loses the EXIF data there could be a difference between W7 and
>W10.
>
>If you can narrow down the area of the problem in this way it would be
>worth filing a bug report.
>
>I am using Partha's portable version of 2.10.0 - it might also be
>worth trying this (you can use it without affecting your other GIMP
>installation(s))

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 very slow

[wireless112]

Thank You  Michael for the link to the bug report. I went and downloaded
Partha's portable 2.10 and it performed as expected for a portable app.

I will try the install version some other time. But for now, my non expert
opinion seems to concur that not all windows builds are impacted. Partha seemed
to confirm that the core Gimp is the same as the official build, just the
compiler is configured differently.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 very slow

[wireless112]

I should add no one here claimed to be experts, no one claimed to have wasted
money, the car references were simply a different way to explain the performance
gap. The lambo being the fastest current production car and the pinto being one
of the slowest.

A gimp expert would dig in and fix it. A photography expert would use a paid
alternative.

an open source product can not be great without bug reports and forums like
this.

Like others in this thread, I did start with a clean slate. My current build had
never had GiMP installed on it. However wasn't a total fresh win install. So I
may try to clean things up better, but to be honest, the installer program
should be doing that cleaning.in a perfect world. Without feedback open
source gets no where near perfect.

I am not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand that severely
off base comment.  Chocking it up to sarcasm for the moment. Comparing someone
to edsel implies the someone is a business, yeah not so much. Just someone who
used gimp to make some images for a pet project.

As someone who values all of my time, that paid alternative would have been less
expensive. Just saying. There is no such thing as free. Everything has an
expense. This is not a complaint, it''s a fact I chose to go the "Free" route, I
then chose to upgrade to an untested (by me) product for a project I wasn't
quite done with yet.  I then chose to make my experience known so that those who
are experts at gimp can have a look and see what's going on, and if I am lucky
can fix it. Most importantly of all, someone who hasn't upgraded yet may read
this thread learning to go about the process differently than I did and as a
result have a much better experience. Lord knows forums have saved me numerous
times.

While I am at it, I should clarify, I don't have a load time issue with 2.10, I
have an everything else is slow issue. It frequently stops responding for the
most mundane of tasks, well nearly every operation. Merely out of curiosity,
when I am done with this project I will attempt a deep clean and see what
happens.  It does sound like a registry reference to a deleted file didn't get
cleaned up during the install process.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 very slow

[Michael Schumacher]

On 05/17/2018 11:49 PM, labaxp wrote:

> We  are not here to discuss how much we spent for gimp.

We are spending time on the issues here, though, so discussing and
spending are intertwined.

But let's not get too distracting, because...

> This forum is to discuss bugs and other issues we are facing and to share
> opinions and maybe ways (if someone found) to improve gimp.

... this is what we actually want to do.

The corresponding bug report is:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795880

Different compiler flags are likely the reason for speed differences
encountered in different builds, and figuring out those which provide
fast, yet still accurate results is the constructive way to go forward.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 very slow

[Michael Schumacher]

On 05/17/2018 10:41 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

> I am sure your expert evaluation of the most expensive product, gimp, will
> be well received.  I am sorry your currency was ill spent.  

May I express my hope that someone involved with another, big Free
Software project would use such replies as an opportunity to demonstrate
their experience with Free Software development and search the discussed
software project's bug tracker for a bug report describing the issue?


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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 very slow

[labaxp]

>* labaxp  [05-17-18 16:30]:
>I am sure your expert evaluation of the most expensive product, gimp,
>will
>be well received.  I am sorry your currency was ill spent.  
>
>ps: are you in any way related to Mr. Edsel who also went the way of
>the
>dodo?
We  are not here to discuss how much we spent for gimp.
This forum is to discuss bugs and other issues we are facing and to share
opinions and maybe ways (if someone found) to improve gimp. If noone ever
discuss the issues / bugs cause the gimp is free, then the developers wouldnt be
able to improve it.
If you think that we cant say our problems cause gimo is free, i am sorry my
friend but this forum is not for you.

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