Re: Help me out of wireless hell
I think you might have better luck if you buy a different PCMCIA card. I have a LinkSys wireless access point that is built into their 4 port switched hub and it works fine with a variety of cards. Specifically, I have used it with an older LinkSys WPC11 (probably the 1st version), a Compaq iPaq wireless card (Prism II), an Orinoco Gold card (Hermes) and a Compaq WL100 card (Prism I think). All of these cards seem to work fine. One thing you might want to check out - do you by any chance have a 2.4 ghz wireless phone? If so, there are known interference issues with the phones and the 2.4 ghz 802.11b access points. One way around this I read somewhere in a newsgroup is to either select a specific channel (LinkSys seems to default to channel 6) or to make sure the wireless access point and wireless network is started before the phone is powered up. Apparently there is logic in the devices to detect existing communications and avoid conflicts. -Alex P.S. AFAIK, the main advantage of the newer LinkSys WPC11 V3+ cards is that they use the Prism II chip set and have better range. In that department the Orinoco card is far superior to any of the other cards I have. Also, I have a D-Link DL120 USB wireless unit that exceeds all my PCMCIA cards in terms of range. - Original Message - From: Paul Iadonisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greater New Hampshire LUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: Help me out of wireless hell *sigh* I've avoided getting any wireless hardware for various reasons. Now I'm in a situation where my life is much easier if I dive in. Well, I'm part way there. I've at least got a wireless card that works with the access point (whatever it is) that I need it to. But having a piece of hardware that only works for me six to eight hours a day at a specific location just doesn't sit right with me, so I decided to get an access point for home. That's when my pain started. After struggling for hours to get a Linksys WPC11v3 and a Linksys WAPv2.2 to talk to each other, I stumbled across several comments on several mailing lists that indicate that these two devices are not compatible with each other. That's right, same vendor and they won't talk. Surprised? I didn't think so. According to a few postings I saw, Linksys is aware of the problem and recommends buying an older version of either the card or the WAP. The thing that rankles me is that at least one of those messages was posted in January, indicating that the problem has existed for at least seven months without a resolution. So I exchanged the WAPv2.2 for a WMP11 PCI wireless card hoping to use it as an access point in my desktop with the help of the Prism2 HostAP project. No dice. *That* requires a firmware update to firmware that is not available as an official update from Linksys. It's apparently possible to use any prism2 firmware with any vendor's prism2 based cards, but there seemed to be some indication that some people have smoked their cards doing this. So I'm back on the hunt for a real WAP. Chump^WCompUSA only carries one more model that isn't also a hub -- it's a Netgear model that requires Windows in order to configure it (through its USB port). I won't buy it on principle, but I don't have access to any Windows machines, anyhow (and intend on keeping it that way). This is trying my commitment to my principles, however, as I'm at that 'I just want it to work' stage about right now. Does anyone know of a WAP that: o is configurable entirely from Linux like the Linksys which uses a web interface o isn't also a wired hub -- I don't want to pay for what I don't need -- one RJ45 connection is all I need, thank you o is known to work with the WPC11v3 Linksys card ? -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: File server
In a message dated: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 20:15:46 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Storage management (you need it, trust me): Linux EVMS -- http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/evms Swt! An IBM open-source storage management system, *and* it's apt-get'able :) -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
In a message dated: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:09:22 EDT Erik Price said: Is there in fact a MELBA meeting on Wednesday night? I understand that there was something last week but then there was some talk of another meeting this week? To my knowledge, there is no MELBA meeting this week. However, if you'd all like to meet at Martha's feel free to congregate :) I goofed and scheduled last weeks meeting for the wrong week, which seemed to work out well since we didn't have anyone to give a talk :) If people want to get together this week and use the room upstairs, let me know and I'll call Martha's and make sure it's available. -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Three-minute timeout during surfing?
In a message dated: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 20:32:08 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, at 12:09am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Below is a snippet from an ethereal dump. Any ideas? Shutdown everything. Place system on an isolated network. Start packet sniffer (no filter). Start any services Apache depends on (e.g., a local DNS resolver). Start Apache. Send a single web client request. Watch to see if the system is sending any packets (other than the HTTP request). If so, find out why, and see if the (lack of) response is the problem. If not, the problem must be local -- database problem, maybe? Ahhhm, just curious here, but why would a web server be sending out *any* packets, including HTTP requests. Web servers *serve*, they don't request. Good policy is to have an ip[chain,table]s script which prevents outgoing http requests from web servers. If you're seeing requests *initiated* by your web server, you've got a major problem (unless it's something you specifically condone and (allowed to be) configured yourself. -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [Gnhlug-org] Mailing List upgrade
The upgrade is postponed until Wednesday night (I hope). Quoting Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At some point tonight (probably after 9pm), I'll be updating mailman to 2.0.13. This is to close some security holes and (hopefully) fix some bugs. Note that this new release does NOT include the virtual domain fixes. ... - This mail sent through IMP: www.milessmithfarm.net ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Ethernet question
Hi all, In mucking around with the mii-tools from Donald Becker, I noticed in the man page that you can set a fixed speed for your card. The choices given are: 100baseT4 100baseTx 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD What is 100baseT4? And why would you set a speed of 100baseTx-HD. Is that really setting only the transmit speed to 100MB/HD? Why/when would you ever have a situation where you'd need tx at HD, and rx at FD? Or vice-versa, and why not have a 100baseRx-HD setting? Anyone understand this better than I do? (btw, I search Scyld.com for answers, and either couldn't find them, or looked in the wrong place :) -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Ethernet question
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100baseT4 100baseTx 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD T4 is a HP ethernet thing that uses 4 pairs instead of 2... It can run over cat3 or cat4 (this from someone I work with here). The Tx is the same as just T... It doesn't represent Transmit vs Receive. The HD is, of course, half duplex.. which is required in certain situations.. Ben -- Judge not the horse by his saddle. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 09:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:09:22 EDT Erik Price said: Is there in fact a MELBA meeting on Wednesday night? I understand that there was something last week but then there was some talk of another meeting this week? To my knowledge, there is no MELBA meeting this week. However, if you'd all like to meet at Martha's feel free to congregate :) Does anyone have any talk prepared that they'd like to present? Also, since school's coming back into session, perhaps we should plan a meeting at DWC and/or Rivier so that we can convert a few college students away from the Dark Side. I goofed and scheduled last weeks meeting for the wrong week, which seemed to work out well since we didn't have anyone to give a talk :) If people want to get together this week and use the room upstairs, let me know and I'll call Martha's and make sure it's available. -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Ethernet question
In a message dated: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:52:48 EDT Mark Komarinski said: What we would consider standard 100Mbit. The Tx has nothing to do with transmit. Ohh! Okay, I get it. So 100Mbit doesn't use 4 pair any more? Then why they heck are we still spending all that money on 8-strand cat 5? Cut the prices in half and waste half the amount resources :) If you think this is confusing, wait till you get to Gig-E over fiber. Would you like multi-mode or single-mode fiber? How about at least 3 different kinds of connectors? The fiber part actually doesn't bother me, since I've dealt with it before. Always go MM, and use the little square connectors (sc) if you can, they're easier than the screw-n-twist (st) and a lot better than GBIC :) ( I think I got those correct :) -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Ethernet question
In a message dated: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:22:37 EDT Tom Buskey said: It's nice to be able to set the duplex/speed. Some hubs/cards don't do autonegotiation very well. I understand the why you'd want to set HD vs. FD. I was mis-interpretting the 100bTx-HD to mean that you could set only the transmit speed to HD or FD but leave the Rx speed alone. This is obviously not the case (though it might be fun to muck with that capability ;) -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Help me out of wireless hell
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 11:14:36AM -0400, Tom Buskey wrote: [snip] So, she returned the card, got a different brand, everything's working. Yep, the linksys card should've worked, but why spend another minute on it when you have a solution that works? Well, this is precisely why I'm inclined to keep the card. It works perfectly where I *need* it to work. And if it hadn't been for the WPC11v3/WAPv2.2 incompatibility, I would have had it working very quickly. The drivers I grabbed from linux-wlan.com worked with very little tweaking, once I tried it against the WAP where I'm doing my work. The home based WAP is more of a 'nice to have'. I'd rather spend a little time looking for an alternative WAP than change a card I know works where it's more important. Then again, I *might* change my mind. The Linksys WAPv2.2 is a cheap and therefore popular choice. I'd might rather have a card that works with it. FWIW, I like the compaq card better then the addtron. It works with Netstumbler. The addtron works with kismet though. I should mention that all this testing was done using WinXP :-/ Ah. That changes the picture quite a bit, I'd say. I haven't had any problems with the Linux/WPC11v3 combination outside of the WAPv2.2 issue. OB unix: ok, my DHCP server is NetBSD OB Linux: my laptop is dual boot. I usually run Mandrake 8.2. WinXP boots faster though :-( Betcha my OS (Red Hat 7.3 on a 500MHz Toshiba Tecra 8100) boots faster than your OS. ;-) (Here's to hoping we never meet when we both happen to have our laptops so you can't prove me wrong :-)). -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
Our Quarterly meeting is planned for 25 Sept. I'm just waiting to hear back from DWC about the location before I send out the announcement and press kit. We have Shawn Shea from Expert Systems giving a talk on VMWare and ESX. --Bruce Quoting Rob Lembree [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Also, since school's coming back into session, perhaps we should plan a meeting at DWC and/or Rivier so that we can convert a few college students away from the Dark Side. ... - This mail sent through IMP: www.milessmithfarm.net ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
I could give my talk about the new things in the V2.5 kernel and what they mean to systems admins and programmers, if anyone would be interested. I should warn you that to do it in an hour I have to talk very fast and leave it at the 10,000 foot level. I would need an LCD projector. md -- = Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(SM) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (SM)Linux International is a service mark of Linux International, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Monitor question
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, David Roberts wrote: Anyone out there know: 1. if I can get it to work or if I should say No thanks. 2. what parameters I'll need for the xconfig routine so I don't blow it up ;) You should be able to re-run Xconfigurator in text mode to make it redetect your monitor. Kudzu might even pick it up on a boot... but I wouldn't risk my own hardware on it. To get to text mode if you're in X, hit control-alt-f1. If you're booting at the lilo prompt go to Text mode and type linux single (or whatever single) and it'll drop you into single user mode where you can run Xconfigurator. Ben -- Only when all contribute their firewood can they build up a strong fire. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 02:06 PM, Jon Hall wrote: I could give my talk about the new things in the V2.5 kernel and what they mean to systems admins and programmers, if anyone would be interested. I should warn you that to do it in an hour I have to talk very fast and leave it at the 10,000 foot level. (High-level is fine for me.) I haven't attended a MELBA meeting yet; is that the case, that they are limited to one hour? I only ask b/c I may be meeting my old lady after the meeting and that gives me a definite time to give her... Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 14:06, Jon Hall wrote: I could give my talk about the new things in the V2.5 kernel and what they mean to systems admins and programmers, if anyone would be interested. I should warn you that to do it in an hour I have to talk very fast and leave it at the 10,000 foot level. I would need an LCD projector. Well, can someone come up with a projector? Can we get a show of hands as to who would come if we were to have such a meeting? md -- = Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(SM) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (SM)Linux International is a service mark of Linux International, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Rob LembreeMetro Link Incorporated 29 Milk St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nashua, NH 03064-1651 http://www.metrolink.com Phone: 954.660.2460 Alternate: 603.577.9714 PGP: 1F EE F8 58 30 F1 B1 20 C5 4F 12 21 AD 0D 6B 29 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
My talk would last at least an hour. I tried to give it recently and I spoke very rapidly and finished in about 54 minutes, but had to skip rapidly over the last 5 slides (out of about 30 slides). 90 minutes would be better for presentation and (of course from this group) lots of discussion would make it go out to two hours. Arguments could take it to 150 minutes. Drunken arguments takes it to three solid hours, but you could leave after the 150 minute mark. :-) We normally start about 1900, have a little old news, new news, introductions and Heckling of Ben (a regular feature of our meetings), which is over about 1915 hours, so we normally get started with the talks then, and we should be over about 2200. If we get done early we migrate downstairs for libations. I can not stay out too late, since I have an early morning appointment. md -- = Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(SM) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (SM)Linux International is a service mark of Linux International, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Speaking of wireless
802.11g will be 54 MBit/sec, just as a is. It will be in the 2.4 GHz frequency range just as 802.11b, microwave ovens, some cordless phones. 802.11g will have better range than 802.11a, due to its lower frequency and lesser ability to be absorbed by people, leaves, etc. 802.11b and 802.11g are usable over in Europe and Asia because their frequencies are in the 2.4GHz range. 802.11a is only legally available and usable on this side of the pond. 802.11g will probably be out early next year. Until it is, I would recommend buying 802.11b or compatible. As to access points, I got an SMC, which has three wired ports, a parallel printer port that works with both windows and Linux and allows them (and my notebook working off a wireless LAN) to share a printer, and a WAN port for the DSL modem. The unit uses a web browser to set it up, and has been working flawlessly for several months now. I bought a 900 MHz phone, which sits happily next to it. The phone is not affected by either the wireless LAN nor the microwave. And why did they go from b to g? What happened to c,d,e, and f?? Actually they went from b to a to g.and probably the same reason that the Ford Model T car had a follow-on model that was the Model A. md -- = Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(SM) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association, USENIX Association (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (SM)Linux International is a service mark of Linux International, Inc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: MELBA wed
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 03:38 PM, Rob Lembree wrote: On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 14:06, Jon Hall wrote: I could give my talk about the new things in the V2.5 kernel and what they mean to systems admins and programmers, if anyone would be interested. I should warn you that to do it in an hour I have to talk very fast and leave it at the 10,000 foot level. I would need an LCD projector. Well, can someone come up with a projector? Can we get a show of hands as to who would come if we were to have such a meeting? (raises hand) So... it's upstairs of Martha's Exchange? Can you get dinner up there, or should you eat at home? and... libations -after- the presentation (not during)? Erik -- Erik Price email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
