Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote: I have managed to get the image to boot in Virtualbox. Keywords to google or look for in the VirtualBox interface if you are in a similar bind: agp440.sys IOAPIC Also, make sure enough memory is allocated to both RAM and video card for the virtual machine. I had some bizarre side effects where the shift and control keys stopped working in my X session. They went away by themselves which worries me. I used to use VMware Server/Player but switched to VirtualBox. Both require a kernel module and that needs to be upgraded along with the kernel. VMware supplies a binary you need to download from VMware. VirtualBox supplies source that gets compiled everytime you upgrade the kernel. VMware, VirtualBox, Hyper-V, (and XEN I think?) are collaborating on a virtual container standard and they're adding support for competitor's containers too. Your VMs should be portable. The only reason I can see to use VMware vs VirtualBox is to feed an ESX server, but that might be going away. And familiairity.What else does VMware offer over VirtualBox? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
Correction: VMware compiles the modules every time you upgrade the kernel; I have not had to download anything new from them on kernel upgrades, just let their tool do the recompile when I try to start the VM. Virtualbox seems faster, but the pointer in one of the apps I use is now the same color as the background. --DTVZ On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote: I have managed to get the image to boot in Virtualbox. Keywords to google or look for in the VirtualBox interface if you are in a similar bind: agp440.sys IOAPIC Also, make sure enough memory is allocated to both RAM and video card for the virtual machine. I had some bizarre side effects where the shift and control keys stopped working in my X session. They went away by themselves which worries me. I used to use VMware Server/Player but switched to VirtualBox. Both require a kernel module and that needs to be upgraded along with the kernel. VMware supplies a binary you need to download from VMware. VirtualBox supplies source that gets compiled everytime you upgrade the kernel. VMware, VirtualBox, Hyper-V, (and XEN I think?) are collaborating on a virtual container standard and they're adding support for competitor's containers too. Your VMs should be portable. The only reason I can see to use VMware vs VirtualBox is to feed an ESX server, but that might be going away. And familiairity.What else does VMware offer over VirtualBox? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote: Correction: VMware compiles the modules every time you upgrade the kernel; I have not had to download anything new from them on kernel upgrades, just let their tool do the recompile when I try to start the VM. Virtualbox seems faster, but the pointer in one of the apps I use is now the same color as the background. --DTVZ On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: I used to use VMware Server/Player but switched to VirtualBox. Both require a kernel module and that needs to be upgraded along with the kernel. VMware supplies a binary you need to download from VMware. VirtualBox supplies source that gets compiled everytime you upgrade the kernel. Last time I used VMware server on Linux as with Fedora 9. Whenever I did a yum update and the kernel was updated, I couldn't run VMware server until I downloaded new stuff from VMware. The kernel recompile that VMware always did would fail and the server wouldn't start. I'd have to get something from VMware that wasn't always available until some time after. This may have been before VMware server 2.x. I stopped updating my kernel because of it. Once upon a time, I ran Mandrake which always lagged behind Red Hat for VMware Workstation updates. FWIW, I run VirtualBox on Linux, MacOSX and Solaris. I can't do that with anything VMware or KVM or XEN. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
+1.. I always seemed to be futz'ing with VMWare player/server.. I really like the ability to use VBox with Solaris, MAC, etc as well. JFeole -- On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote: Correction: VMware compiles the modules every time you upgrade the kernel; I have not had to download anything new from them on kernel upgrades, just let their tool do the recompile when I try to start the VM. Virtualbox seems faster, but the pointer in one of the apps I use is now the same color as the background. --DTVZ On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: I used to use VMware Server/Player but switched to VirtualBox. Both require a kernel module and that needs to be upgraded along with the kernel. VMware supplies a binary you need to download from VMware. VirtualBox supplies source that gets compiled everytime you upgrade the kernel. Last time I used VMware server on Linux as with Fedora 9. Whenever I did a yum update and the kernel was updated, I couldn't run VMware server until I downloaded new stuff from VMware. The kernel recompile that VMware always did would fail and the server wouldn't start. I'd have to get something from VMware that wasn't always available until some time after. This may have been before VMware server 2.x. I stopped updating my kernel because of it. Once upon a time, I ran Mandrake which always lagged behind Red Hat for VMware Workstation updates. FWIW, I run VirtualBox on Linux, MacOSX and Solaris. I can't do that with anything VMware or KVM or XEN. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
Do you have VMWare Tools installed on the guest? I wonder if you would have more luck with VMWare Server (also free beer). Have you tried connection to the VM via RDP/terminal service's client? Assuming you are running XP Pro or newer on the VM... You could also install VNC or try KVM if you don't mind rebuiding your VM. The KVM support in Intrepid is really nice with a fairly easy GUI, but I don't know about newer versions, but I've never been happy with the KVM graphical console's response time, so I only use it long enough to get RDP running. =) I just did a fresh install of Karmic on my TV computer and I think it has issues with the video card. It won't boot to GUI and the screen keeps flickering even at the command promot it falls back to. Hopefully it will be an easy fix. It almost-boots really fast though! ;) ___ Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote: Don't upgrade to Karmic if you use VMWare Player. It's unusable under Karmic, which continually grabs the pointer back from the guest OS. I may have to reinstall Jaunty from scratch. --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
On 11/07/2009 10:14 PM, Drew Van Zandt wrote: Don't upgrade to Karmic if you use VMWare Player. It's unusable under Karmic, which continually grabs the pointer back from the guest OS. I may have to reinstall Jaunty from scratch. I use Virtualbox on Karmic. No issues. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
vmware server is equally bad, except that it fubars the i/o for my x session until i restart. the shift and control keys no longer work. connecting via rdp/remote desktop also fails; linux terminal server client just fails to connect. can't install other remote desktop tools because i can't log in. converting the disk image to virtualbox appears to work, then the vm hangs during boot. in safe mode, occurs at the agp440.xxx line. --dtvz On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: On 11/07/2009 10:14 PM, Drew Van Zandt wrote: Don't upgrade to Karmic if you use VMWare Player. It's unusable under Karmic, which continually grabs the pointer back from the guest OS. I may have to reinstall Jaunty from scratch. I use Virtualbox on Karmic. No issues. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote: connecting via rdp/remote desktop also fails; linux terminal server client just fails to connect. can't install other remote desktop tools because i can't log in. Yes, you would have had to enable RDP, config a user, and then open it up in the firewall before it would successfully connect. Sorry, I'm out of ideas if you can't access the VM's OS. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
I have managed to get the image to boot in Virtualbox. Keywords to google or look for in the VirtualBox interface if you are in a similar bind: agp440.sys IOAPIC Also, make sure enough memory is allocated to both RAM and video card for the virtual machine. I had some bizarre side effects where the shift and control keys stopped working in my X session. They went away by themselves which worries me. --DTVZ On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote: connecting via rdp/remote desktop also fails; linux terminal server client just fails to connect. can't install other remote desktop tools because i can't log in. Yes, you would have had to enable RDP, config a user, and then open it up in the firewall before it would successfully connect. Sorry, I'm out of ideas if you can't access the VM's OS. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Warning, Ubuntu Karmic / VMWare Player
Don't upgrade to Karmic if you use VMWare Player. It's unusable under Karmic, which continually grabs the pointer back from the guest OS. I may have to reinstall Jaunty from scratch. --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
