Re: Recording GNHLUG meetings (was: mythtvfest)
On Mar 26, 2007, at 15:12, Ben Scott wrote: We can Open Source it and let the bazaar fix it for us. Right? ;-) OK, I'll put the 30GB of raw .DV on liberty. ;) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Recording GNHLUG meetings (was: mythtvfest)
> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:08:28 -0400 > From: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If someone with a digital video camera wants to volunteer to record > the meeting, we can put it online at the GNHLUG website. Or YouTube, > for that matter. This was one of the explicit goals for our new > Internet server. What? And show the world how stupid we all look with black tongues? If we taped the GNHLUG meetings, all my friends would probably disown me. :) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
I'll be giving the talk again in June in Concord, for those who can't make it first time in April in Peterborough. Now I just have to get my talk together and scripted, with about 2 weeks to go. Seth I've been playing with drupal a bit lately. I've also looked at WordPress and Joomla. All are very cool, my impression is WordPress is for those who just want to blog, Joomla! for those who just want to point'n'click, and drupal for those who are used to extending their environments ad nauseum by hacking the framework (i.e., drupal is the emacs of the CM world :) I'm bummed I won't be able to make it to this talk, though, it would be really cool if it could be recorded and put up on GNHLUG.org for later viewing. Huh, that leads to the though of GNHLUGtv.org :) We[1] could video our meetings and place them up there for download for those who can't attend[2] the actual meeting... [1] By "we" I mean those of *you* who actually attend meetings and have either the equipment or inclination to do this :) [2] By "can't attend" I mean me :) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now I just have to get my talk together and scripted, with about 2 weeks to go. I usually wait until the night before, so that gives you 13 days, right? ;-) -- "One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me" -- Rush, "Far Cry" ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Recording GNHLUG meetings (was: mythtvfest)
On 3/26/07, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The downside to doing a video is that people don't necessarily want to see el-crapo video. I dunno, that stupid Paris Hilton sex tape blew countless mail servers out of the water, and I've shot better video with the lens cap on. ;-) I spent too much time adjusting volumes, gamma curves, color balances, etc. to get it to be watchable. We can Open Source it and let the bazaar fix it for us. Right? ;-) Passing the token on this task might be useful. I sure ain't volunteering any more of my time, other than that to set-up hosting on liberty, should that be desired. :-) ... we don't want to be bad net neighbors and hog the whole non-profit bandwidth allocation at MV. Yah. That. All this is moot if nobody records the presentations, though Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? -- "One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me" -- Rush, "Far Cry" ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Recording GNHLUG meetings (was: mythtvfest)
On Mar 26, 2007, at 12:08, Ben Scott wrote: If someone with a digital video camera wants to volunteer to record the meeting, we can put it online at the GNHLUG website. Or YouTube, for that matter. This was one of the explicit goals for our new Internet server. The size of motion video may necessitate heavy compression and/or down-scaling (to conserve disk space and/or bandwidth), but see also YouTube, above. I did a recording of Doug McIlroy's presentation to DLSLUG - it predated Google Video, so I uploaded it to archive.org. Both will accept large high-ish quality video. Google Video and YouTube are set to merge, as I hear it, so I'm not sure if that means all low- quality Flash or not. Either way, if you can get through the upload process on archive.org the hosting is quite good. The downside to doing a video is that people don't necessarily want to see el-crapo video. I spent too much time adjusting volumes, gamma curves, color balances, etc. to get it to be watchable. Sure, if it were properly miced and lighted that wouldn't be such a problem. But it wasn't. I picked up a wireless mic for future use, should the need arise again. There's about a 3x multiplier on runtime to do a decent basic editing job, so it's worth keeping in mind. Passing the token on this task might be useful. Audio-only extracts of a video recording are another possibility. As long as the sideshow is separately available, this may be all that is needed. It's not like we need to video tape a sideshow. Audio is much more affordable to host. I put an .mp3 of the above talk on the dlslug site and it hasn't cost me much in the way of traffic. That's not really a concern on the MV deal, I'm guessing, other than we don't want to be bad net neighbors and hog the whole non-profit bandwidth allocation at MV. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Recording GNHLUG meetings (was: mythtvfest)
On 3/26/07, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... it would be really cool if it could be recorded and put up on GNHLUG.org for later viewing. If someone with a digital video camera wants to volunteer to record the meeting, we can put it online at the GNHLUG website. Or YouTube, for that matter. This was one of the explicit goals for our new Internet server. The size of motion video may necessitate heavy compression and/or down-scaling (to conserve disk space and/or bandwidth), but see also YouTube, above. Audio-only extracts of a video recording are another possibility. As long as the sideshow is separately available, this may be all that is needed. It's not like we need to video tape a sideshow. -- "One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me" -- Rush, "Far Cry" ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm giving a talk on April 12 about Drupal ... > > Thank you. I've been playing with drupal a bit lately. I've also looked at WordPress and Joomla. All are very cool, my impression is WordPress is for those who just want to blog, Joomla! for those who just want to point'n'click, and drupal for those who are used to extending their environments ad nauseum by hacking the framework (i.e., drupal is the emacs of the CM world :) I'm bummed I won't be able to make it to this talk, though, it would be really cool if it could be recorded and put up on GNHLUG.org for later viewing. Huh, that leads to the though of GNHLUGtv.org :) We[1] could video our meetings and place them up there for download for those who can't attend[2] the actual meeting... [1] By "we" I mean those of *you* who actually attend meetings and have either the equipment or inclination to do this :) [2] By "can't attend" I mean me :) -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:59:13PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On 3/25/07, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Ben, calm down. > > Calm? I'm calm! I'm wicked calm!! LOOK AT ME, I'M CALM!!! WHAT > MAKES YOU THINK I'M NOT CALM??!one To quote the Big Lebowski: "Calmer than you are." Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt Web Developer ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
On 3/25/07, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ben, calm down. Calm? I'm calm! I'm wicked calm!! LOOK AT ME, I'M CALM!!! WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I'M NOT CALM??!one Rather than continue the nerdwar, let me just say one thing: I'm giving a talk on April 12 about Drupal ... Thank you. -- "One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me" -- Rush, "Far Cry" ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
Ben, calm down. > For more on this thread, see the semi-recent ESR thread where he > ranted about Fedora and 'left' for Ubuntu. (No I have no intention of > raising said thread from the dead, discussing ESR, etc...) Yet you just did. No, I pointed people to it, because we've been there, done that. Whoop-dee-do. They weren't at NHTI. Agreed. I wasn't there, nor was anyone else who advocated for Debian(ish). The group decision was made, and I'm not saying "change it, change it!". I'm really freaking tired of all the Debian zealots who never miss an opportunity to tell us how great Debian is, but are silent when it comes to actually contributing. Put up or shut up. I'm giving a talk on April 12 about Drupal (which you can run on Debian, Fedora, and even Windows based servers), and again in June. (It was going to be in May, but thank you for switching dates with me, Ben (and Ted)!) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
On 3/25/07, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For sheer upgradability, Debian systems tend to be more bullet proof. For more on this thread, see the semi-recent ESR thread where he ranted about Fedora and 'left' for Ubuntu. (No I have no intention of raising said thread from the dead, discussing ESR, etc...) Yet you just did. However, doing installs for newbies who might need to do future upgrades themselves is one of the most likely scenarios. That was my raised issue. Yah, if you really want to get into the nerdwar, I've had far more problems with "apt-get upgrade" on Debian than I have with "yum upgrade" on Fedora. Clearly my personal anecdotal experience trumps your personal anecdotal experience. Neener, neener. I don't recall any volunteers were overly familiar with Debian. Maybe Debian users should spend less time telling everyone their distro is better and more time actually contributing. :-P Yeah, those Debian & Ubuntu & Knoppix guys never do anything with mythtv. Whoop-dee-do. They weren't at NHTI. What happens elsewhere doesn't help us at all. Put your money where you mouth is and get involved, or sit back and be quiet. I'm really freaking tired of all the Debian zealots who never miss an opportunity to tell us how great Debian is, but are silent when it comes to actually contributing. Put up or shut up. /flame -- "One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me" -- Rush, "Far Cry" ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
> For sheer upgradability, Debian systems tend to be more bullet proof. For more on this thread, see the semi-recent ESR thread where he ranted about Fedora and 'left' for Ubuntu. (No I have no intention of raising said thread from the dead, discussing ESR, etc...) Fedora worked when we tried it. The volunteers were familiar with it. That's about the grand total of the down-select process. I understood that. That's a very valid reason. However, doing installs for newbies who might need to do future upgrades themselves is one of the most likely scenarios. That was my raised issue. I don't recall any volunteers were overly familiar with Debian. Maybe Debian users should spend less time telling everyone their distro is better and more time actually contributing. :-P Yeah, those Debian & Ubuntu & Knoppix guys never do anything with mythtv. http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+debian http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+knoppix http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+ubuntu Oh wait, yes they do. Never mind. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
> > Why not Debian or Ubuntu? For sheer upgradability, Debian systems > tend to be more bullet proof. We had a pilot of this, and we chose a couple of distributions. We realized that was a mistake, as it did not allow us to "lockstep through". Remember, we were anticipating 30 or forty people, not just five. So we went with one distro. Jarod works for Red Hat, is familiar with Fedora, uses that at home. It was as good as any. > > And Linux Media is built using Ubuntu. :) > When we had the pilot "Linux Media" was not announced yet. > > The fact that this is an "appliance" and for most people they don't care > > what the base distribution is. Those that do can probably install > > MythTV by themselves. > > True enough. Again, in the future we may allow more distributions as things roll out, but right now we want "one swell foop". md ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
On 3/25/07, Seth Cohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The fact that we have used it before and it works. We have not tested MythTV with Puppy Linux, Slackware, Yggdrasil Why not Debian or Ubuntu? My distro's better than your distro! For sheer upgradability, Debian systems tend to be more bullet proof. Nuh-uh! Clearly, Skeletor could take Mumra in a fight. Oh, wait, sorry, wrong nerdwar... Fedora worked when we tried it. The volunteers were familiar with it. That's about the grand total of the down-select process. I don't recall any volunteers were overly familiar with Debian. Maybe Debian users should spend less time telling everyone their distro is better and more time actually contributing. :-P -- "One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me" -- Rush, "Far Cry" ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
On 3/25/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:23 -0400, Bruce Labitt wrote: > Which distro will be used as the base for the installfest? At this point we are recommending Fedora. > What makes it "better" for the install? The fact that we have used it before and it works. We have not tested MythTV with Puppy Linux, Slackware, Yggdrasil Why not Debian or Ubuntu? For sheer upgradability, Debian systems tend to be more bullet proof. And Linux Media is built using Ubuntu. :) The fact that this is an "appliance" and for most people they don't care what the base distribution is. Those that do can probably install MythTV by themselves. True enough. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: mythtvfest
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:23 -0400, Bruce Labitt wrote: > Which distro will be used as the base for the installfest? At this point we are recommending Fedora. > What makes it "better" for the install? The fact that we have used it before and it works. We have not tested MythTV with Puppy Linux, Slackware, Yggdrasil Familiarity of the installers and coaches with the distribution. The fact that if everyone is stepping through the same install you can just tell them "Hit Enter" (I almost said "Carriage Return") and they all do the same thing at the same time. The fact that this is an "appliance" and for most people they don't care what the base distribution is. Those that do can probably install MythTV by themselves. md ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
mythtvfest
Which distro will be used as the base for the installfest? What makes it "better" for the install? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
