Re: [GNC] Will GNU CASH work on a Chromebook

[Jan-Peter Rühmann]

   Am 11.08.23 um 12:09 schrieb Abe Sternberg:

I run Gnucash on my Chromebook using Linux when I am traveling and it is a
real pain.  For me, there are two challenges.  The first is that if you are
not skilled in Linux it is a constant effort to keep the Linux apps updated.

   Use a skript to run the paket manager automatlcaly by crontab.
   I do that on a Bunch of Linux machines without problems.

Next, the Linux side is slow and uses a lot of system resources.
Chromebooks are not designed to run apps.

Now, the biggest headache.  Gnucash needs it's data file to be local, so I
have to download the data to my Chromebook, then upload it to my computer
when I return home.

   Have you tried NFS (Network Filesystem)?
   The Data emains home and you can use it as if it were on your Laptop.

In sum, running Gnucash solely on a Chromebook can be done, while a second
instance of Gnucash on a Chromebook should only be done if absolutely
necessary.  Of course, this is just my opinion.

Abe

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:49 AM Adrien Monteleone <
[1]adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


How did I forget?

[2]https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-October/080544.html

It seems someone has at least as of GnuCash 3.2 via Flatpak on ChromeOS.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/10/23 11:36 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

There are ways to run linux apps in ChromeOS. I'm not sure if anyone has
attempted such with GnuCash.

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[GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[Shevach Pepper]

   I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.

   I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
   import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has been
   asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.

   On my old computer in the AppData>Roaming>GnuCash>books folder I found
   a file with end in gnucash.gcm. Can I just copy that file and put into
   the new computer in the same place and I’ll get back old of the old
   info?

   Tried that but it didn’t work.

   Can someone help me and tell me what to do?

   Thank you very much



   Sent from [1]Mail for Windows

References

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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[Geert Janssens]

Several option:

1. If you remember where you stored your gnucash data file on the old computer, 
use your 
system's file manager to copy it to the new computer (either via a network 
share, cloud drive 
or usb stick. Then on the new computer, start gnucash and use File->Open to 
locate your 
gnucash data file.

2. If you don't remember where you stored it, open gnucash on your old computer 
and 
select save as... From there you can either detect where you stored your 
gnucash data file 
originally, or simply save a copy somewhere you can find it later. The take 
step one above to 
complete the migration.

Note that besides your data file there are a few files that are managed by 
gnucash directly 
which you also might want to copy over. They have for example your saved 
reports and such. 
Under Windows these are stored under
%APPDATA%\gnucash

Regards,

Geert

Op vrijdag 11 augustus 2023 16:00:35 CEST schreef Shevach Pepper:
>I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.
> 
>I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
>import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has been
>asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.
> 
>On my old computer in the AppData>Roaming>GnuCash>books folder I found
>a file with end in gnucash.gcm. Can I just copy that file and put into
>the new computer in the same place and I’ll get back old of the old
>info?
> 
>Tried that but it didn’t work.
> 
>Can someone help me and tell me what to do?
> 
>Thank you very much
> 
> 
> 
>Sent from [1]Mail for Windows
> 
> References
> 
>1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[Maf. King]

On Friday, 11 August 2023 15:00:35 BST Shevach Pepper wrote:
>I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.
> 
>I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
>import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has been
>asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.
> 

Hi Shevach.

You're correct - it is "simple" to do, and the question has been asked enough 
times before to have an entry in the FAQ:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/
FAQ#Q:_I_just_got_a_new_computer._What_should_I_copy_over_from_my_old_one.3F

Basically you need to copy your data file.  (Just like you need to copy 
your word processor docs and spreadsheets and photos and other data files in 
your user's old folders.)

Only you can know what your data file is called and where it is in your folder 
tree on the old computer.

HTH,
Maf.





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Re: [GNC] Bug in GnuCash 5.3 Stock Assistant

[Carsten Hütter]

Hi John!

Am 11.08.23 um 19:12 schrieb john:

Carsten,

I'd go with translation error for the use of Aktientellung. From de.po:
msgid ""
"A summary of splits is shown as follows. If the summary is correct, and"
"there are no errors, please press \"Apply\". You may also press \"Back\" to"
"review your choices, or \"Cancel\" to quit without making any changes."
msgstr ""
"Hier ist die Zusammenfassung der Aktienteilung abgeschlossen. Falls diese"
"korrekt ist und ohne Fehler, klicken Sie »Anwenden«. Sie können auch"
"»Zurück« klicken, um Ihre Eingaben zu überprüfen oder »Abbrechen«, um diesen"
"Dialog zu beenden, ohne die Änderungen zu speichern."

I guess that needs a translator comment that "splits" means transaction splits
"Splits" as "transaction splits" is translated as "Buchungsteile" in 
other corresponding gnucash dialogs. I will try to modify the 
translation via Weblate accordingly.



"Buying stock long" is a programming error: It's marked for translation at its 
declaration but not translated at its point of use.



Yes. An accurate translation is shown in Weblate. I can't help here.


Regards,
John Ralls



Regards,

Carsten


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Re: [GNC] Need advice I use Quickbooks and only for personal use. All I do is bank accounts entries & credit cards, just use P&L & Balance Sheet reports

[Brad Morrison]

Hi Gregory/Susan/Richard/all,

I think that it is important to remember that GnuCash is an all 
volunteer project and not an accounting system suitable for almost any 
type of organization, other than a very simple one:


https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1583966278 - 
"But GnuCash isn't suitable for large, or even small, enterprises and 
never will be. GnuCash is for tiny and simple enterprises; we often say 
individuals and sole proprietorships. Even having employees makes using 
GnuCash a dubious proposition (no payroll module), as does carrying more 
than a very few line items of inventory (no inventory module) or 
performing any sort of manufacturing (no bill of materials or cost 
accounting modules).


Adding those modules is a non-starter: Consider that it's been 10 years 
since we began working on separating libgnucash from the application, 
converting from GObject to C++, and changing from a program that can 
load its data from a SQL database and put it back to one that is built 
around SQL queries. We haven't gotten very far.


Those seeking a F/LOSS accounting solution for larger enterprises should 
look to Odoo." (https://www.odoo.com/ & 
https://www.odoo.com/accounting-firms)


I include that last part just to make any expectations you might have 
more grounded in the reality of GnuCash's current capabilities.


If anyone is interested in expanding GnuCash's capabilities, feel free 
to donate to the project here (https://www.gnucash.org/donate.phtml), 
just be aware that for US based taxpayers, GnuCash is not a 501c3 
registered nonprofit and does not have a fiscal sponsor like some other 
open source projects (https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/ or 
https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/), so those donations may not be tax 
deductible if the taxpayer itemizes their deductions 
(https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc506).


Good luck!

Brad


On 8/8/23 12:10, R Losey wrote:

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 6:40 AM Gregory Robertson
wrote:


I'm use to QuickBooks Pro but as I mentioned I only use a few of the
features. Is this a good software for me to do just the basics. Also, I
just want to do on desktop, no online. I am not use to your format. Could
you please send me an answer tomswr...@gmail.com.
Thank you, Susan
___


I used Quicken for about 20 years and then changed to GnuCash... I also
only used it for checking, credit cards, and some investments.

I did not import anything; I just started afresh some years ago with
GnuCash (I figured that if I had to go back to Quicken, I could, but as the
years pass, this is less and less likely to be needed).

I have enjoyed GnuCash very much. I especially enjoy the fact that I can
run it on iMac, Windows, or Linux.

The one warning I'd give is that the reports in GnuCash are nowhere near as
ready-to-go as they were in Quicken. I struggled to get the reports to
report how and what I wanted.

But, on the other hand, people in this list are very helpful.

_
Richard Losey
rlo...@gmail.com
Micah 6:8
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On Friday, 11 August 2023 15:00:35 BST Shevach Pepper wrote:

I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.

I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has been
asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.


Hi Shevach.

You're correct - it is "simple" to do, and the question has been asked enough
times before to have an entry in the FAQ:

Besides, if you have to ask how to do this it means that you have no way 
to back up your data.


Think about that for a moment. Think about in what ways this problem 
(move from one computer to another) is different or much the same as 
making a copy elsewhere (off your computer -- that's the backup) and 
then later bringing it back to your computer (that's the restore). The 
only difference that it might be the same computer. It might not (the 
disaster was the death of your computer so the restore is to a new device)


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Need advice I use Quickbooks and only for personal use. All I do is bank accounts entries & credit cards, just use P&L & Balance Sheet reports

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 8/12/2023 9:02 AM, Brad Morrison wrote:

Hi Gregory/Susan/Richard/all,

I think that it is important to remember that GnuCash is an all 
volunteer project and not an accounting system suitable for almost any 
type of organization, other than a very simple one:


https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1583966278 - 
"But GnuCash isn't suitable for large, or even small, enterprises and 
never will be. GnuCash is for tiny and simple enterprises; we often 
say individuals and sole proprietorships. Even having employees makes 
using GnuCash a dubious proposition (no payroll module), as does 
carrying more than a very few line items of inventory (no inventory 
module) or performing any sort of manufacturing (no bill of materials 
or cost accounting modules). 



I disagree in the sense that in the days of pen and ink on paper all of 
those things were done before we had computers. Using gnucash you can do 
anything you could pen and ink on paper.


What is being said is that gnucash is not an "integrated business 
system" with multiple components sending feeds to each other. Components 
like POS, inventory, payroll, etc. are not PART of ":general ledger" 
(gnucash as normally used). Those other components would be storing data 
that isn't financial as well as what is and is sent to by "feeds".


For example, besides things like unit cost of batch an inventory system 
is dealing with things like shelving location, restock level, primary 
and secondary sources, etc. A POS system is tracking things like the ID 
of the sales person currently at the register. The payroll system things 
like emergency contact, length of service, etc.


MY druthers? I am opposed to "monolithic" systems, much preferring 
"modular" systems << and remember, I used to work on/design LARGE 
systems >> If nothing else, makes changing and testing MUCH easier since 
well defined boundaries and data exchange between components. So while I 
do not think the developers of gnucash should tackle these other 
components PERHAPS it would make sense to make gnucash (the general 
ledger component) a module that could receive "feeds". Then others could 
decide to tackle one or more of these other parts of "a business 
system". Hopefully also keeping them modular (as they might be feeding 
each other as well as feeding general ledger. For example, POS would 
feed both "general ledger" (the money part of the sale)  AND inventory  
(the physical part of the sale).


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[James Thomas]

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On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 4:48 AM Shevach Pepper  wrote:

>I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.
>
>I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
>import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has been
>asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.
>
>On my old computer in the AppData>Roaming>GnuCash>books folder I found
>a file with end in gnucash.gcm. Can I just copy that file and put into
>the new computer in the same place and I’ll get back old of the old
>info?
>
>Tried that but it didn’t work.
>
>Can someone help me and tell me what to do?
>
>Thank you very much
>
>
>
>Sent from [1]Mail for Windows
>
> References
>
>1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[James Thomas]

On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 4:48 AM Shevach Pepper  wrote:

>I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.
>
>I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
>import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has been
>asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.
>
>On my old computer in the AppData>Roaming>GnuCash>books folder I found
>a file with end in gnucash.gcm. Can I just copy that file and put into
>the new computer in the same place and I’ll get back old of the old
>info?
>
>Tried that but it didn’t work.
>
>Can someone help me and tell me what to do?
>
>Thank you very much
>
>
>
>Sent from [1]Mail for Windows
>
> References
>
>1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
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Re: [GNC] Strange prices update issue (possibly with TSP)

[Kalpesh Patel]

I was reading up on the Hacker's guide at 
https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/blob/master/Documentation/Hackers-Guide
 to see if that facility was available or not (and to write my own module) in 
the TSP.pm module. Appreciate confirming it and now debugging will become much 
more easier. I'll follow up with what I find.

Thank you, to both, for all these valuable pointers.


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Schuck  
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:40 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Cc: Kalpesh Patel ; john 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange prices update issue (possibly with TSP)

On Aug 10, 2023, at 12:13, Kalpesh Patel mailto:kalpesh.pa...@usa.net> > wrote:

> The difficult part in debugging this is that when I do query three 
> times from the command line, it succeeds without any issue for me as 
> well, but when I update prices from GNC, it fails two times and then 
> succeeds third time consistently. So this is not an issue with 
> throttling from TSP source which you validated as well. Is there more 
> in terms of debugging this by any chance? Can I use STDERR and STDOUT 
> from Perl to emanate messages to console but not interfere with what 
> JSON comes back or butcher the response back to gnc-fq-helper so it 
> doesn't bomb to run a full cycles from GNC to test? Any help in debugging is 
> appreciated.

Kalpesh,

Many, but not all, of the F::Q modules make use of the Smart::Comments module. 
TSP.pm is one of them. The environment variable DEBUG will need to be set, and 
with no changes to the Perl code you should see helpful information printed to 
STDERR. In the code, these are lines that begin with "###" (note, just 3 pound 
signs) in those modules using Smart::Comments.

A quick look at the TSP module and I see two where the "tsp" method will return 
*without* setting "success" and "errormsg" for any of the symbols passed to it. 
This will happen if the http get call fails, or whatever is downloaded is not 2 
or more lines.

 my $reply = $ua->get($url, @HEADERS);
 ### [] url  : $url
 ### [] reply: $reply

 return unless ($reply->is_success);

 my @line = split(/\n/, $reply->content);

 return unless (@line > 1);

In the code snippet, there are two examples Smart::Comments use which could be 
useful in your case. With DEBUG set the code would print the url to STDERR, and 
entire $reply object (status, headers, cookies, body).

Whether or not this helps you, the omission of not returning the proper failure 
data is an issue.

Hope this helps.

Bruce S



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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[Michael or Penny Novack]

I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.

I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has been
asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.

On my old computer in the AppData>Roaming>GnuCash>books folder I found
a file with end in gnucash.gcm. Can I just copy that file and put into
the new computer in the same place and I’ll get back old of the old
info?


Suppose  you asked us "I used a word processor to create a document. How 
do I move THIS document to another computer?"


You would expect us to say something like "Well what did you name that 
document and into what directory (file folder) did you place it?". And 
if to that question you answered "I don't know." what would you expect 
us to tell you? You perhaps have hundreds of documents ending with the 
file extension usual for that word processor.


Luckily you are unlikely to have many files created by gnucash as the 
"data file" (the books themselves). Should have the file extension .gnucash


Able to find it now? Or if more than one, can you tell after trying to 
open them?


NEXT TIME (once you have managed to find the right file) give it a name 
that will be meaningful to you.


Michael D Novack



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[GNC] Finance-Quote 1.58 released!

[Bruce Schuck]

New version 1.58 of Finance-Quote is available with the following changes:

* Consorsbank.pm - New module - PR #329
* Stooq.pm - New module - Issue #203
* Bloomberg.pm - Changed modules to utilize cookie jar - PR #331 - 
Issue #324
* AlphaVantage.pm - Apply currency scaling (GBp -> GBP) when symbol
  had additional ".X" suffix - Issue #281
  Fixed check for "Information" JSON usually returned when daily API
  limit has been reached.
* YahooWeb.pm - Fixed incorrect pricing for single character symbols
  and changed URL to get trade date - Issues #314 #319
* Another fix to the URL in YahooJSON and CurrencyRates/YahooJSON - 
Issue #318

Authors:
  - Erik Colson 
  - Paul Fenwick 
  - Vincent Lucarelli 
  - Bruce Schuck 
  - David Hampton 
  - jvolkening 
  - Pawel Konieczny 
  - AndreJ 
  - Mike Alexander 
  - Vinay S Shastry 
  - Bradley Dean 
  - Brent Neal 
  - Jacinta Richardson 
  - e-dorigatti 
  - goodvibes2 
  - Sam Morris 
  - Linas Vepstas 
  - Hiranya Samarasekera 
  - Manuel Friedli 
  - Diego Marcolungo 
  - John Haiducek 
  - alex314159 
  - gregor herrmann 
  - Achim Winkler 
  - Jalon Avens 
  - Paul Howarth 
  - Sigve Indregard 
  - goodvibes2 
  - Ben Hemming 
  - Caleb Begly 
  - CleanShed <72849657+cleans...@users.noreply.github.com>
  - Eelco Dolstra 
  - Emmanuel Di Pretoro 
  - Florian Schlichting 
  - Gabor Szabo 
  - GitGord <46006740+gitg...@users.noreply.github.com>
  - Gustavo R. Montesino 
  - Henrik Ahlgren 
  - Jean-Marie Pacquet 
  - Joseph Heron 
  - Lance Wicks 
  - Liviu Tinta 
  - Martin Kompf 
  - Pete Ratzlaff 
  - Ross Peachey 
  - Stephan Ebelt 
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[GNC] Convert Money Market stock acnt to Bank acnt

[Fred Tydeman]

Is there an easy way to convert a money market stock account
to a bank account?

Since the price is always $1, and each transaction has Trading splits, the
money market accounts are adding extra data to the book file and the price
history file.
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Re: [GNC] Convert Money Market stock acnt to Bank acnt

[John Ralls]

> On Aug 12, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Fred Tydeman  wrote:
> 
> Is there an easy way to convert a money market stock account
> to a bank account?
> 
> Since the price is always $1, and each transaction has Trading splits, the
> money market accounts are adding extra data to the book file and the price
> history file.
> 

The only way I can think of to do that short of editing your database: Export 
the transactions to CSV, edit the CSV to change the commodity, delete the 
account and recreate it as type BANK and currency USD, then import the edited 
CSV.

*Almost* always $1: 
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/breaking-the-buck.asp#:~:text=What%20Is%20Breaking%20the%20Buck,operating%20expenses%20or%20investment%20losses.
Last happened during the 2008 meltdown.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Convert Money Market stock acnt to Bank acnt

[David Carlson]

Actually, not only can money market funds 'break the buck' in some cases,
there has also, even recently, been bank closures where depositors were
temporarily unable to access their cash.  At least there is another level
of protection there in the US called the FDIC, but that too has limits.  I
would not document these risks in GnuCash beyond identifying the asset type
correctly then only documenting a failure when it actually happens.

On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 2:43 PM John Ralls  wrote:

>
>
> > On Aug 12, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Fred Tydeman 
> wrote:
> >
> > Is there an easy way to convert a money market stock account
> > to a bank account?
> >
> > Since the price is always $1, and each transaction has Trading splits,
> the
> > money market accounts are adding extra data to the book file and the
> price
> > history file.
> >
>
> The only way I can think of to do that short of editing your database:
> Export the transactions to CSV, edit the CSV to change the commodity,
> delete the account and recreate it as type BANK and currency USD, then
> import the edited CSV.
>
> *Almost* always $1:
> https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/breaking-the-buck.asp#:~:text=What%20Is%20Breaking%20the%20Buck,operating%20expenses%20or%20investment%20losses
> .
> Last happened during the 2008 meltdown.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer.

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

On 2023-08-12 10:50, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> Suppose  you asked us "I used a word processor to create a document. How
> do I move THIS document to another computer?"
> 
> You would expect us to say something like "Well what did you name that
> document and into what directory (file folder) did you place it?". And
> if to that question you answered "I don't know." what would you expect
> us to tell you? You perhaps have hundreds of documents ending with the
> file extension usual for that word processor.
> 
> Luckily you are unlikely to have many files created by gnucash as the
> "data file" (the books themselves). Should have the file extension .gnucash

Don't forget, the great majority of files ending .gnucash will most
likely not be the data file but backups of it at various stages. The OP
wants to look for a file whose name does _not_ include a 14-digit
number, which is the timestamp for when that particular backup file was
made.

An additional complication is that by default Windows hides file
extensions, so the OP may or may not see ".gnucash" at the end of a data
file's name.

What the OP should do, in my opinion, is

1. Open GnuCash on the old computer.
2. Let it open the most recently used file (as it does automatically).
3. Click File, and look at the list just under the word Properties in
the menu.
4. Hover the mouse over the first of those, without clicking it.

The full path and file name should appear in the status line or in a
popup "tool tip", depending on GnuCash version.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com/
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer. Linux version

[Liz]

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 17:00:35 +0300
Shevach Pepper  wrote:

>I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.
> 
>I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
>import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has
> been asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.
> 
>

I've just had to do this because I dropped my laptop.
I've gone from 4.14 to 5.1 in the same move.

I've transferred my ~/ (home directory) from one computer to the new
one.
Gnucash opens, but a lot of my preferences are gone, and even which is
my next invoice number.
I open Gnucash > Help > About, and attach the screenshot.

This tells me where to look for my preferences, data etc.
GNC_USERDATA_DIR is /home/liz/.local/share/gnucash
Nope, my data files are in subdirectories of
/home/liz/Nextcloud/gnucash/
My *.gcm files are under books in ~/.local/share/gnucash/

$ ls /home/liz/.local/share/gnucash
accelerator-map  deviceidhashsaltsqif-accounts-map  storage
booksexpressions-2.0  saved-reports-2.8
stylesheets-2.0 checks   hsts-storage.sqlite
saved-reports-2.8-backup  translog


GNC_USERCONFIG_DIR is /home/liz/.config/gnucash
Nope, this directory is empty (and I checked two other computers that
have shared this data and all are empty directories here)


What does the FAQ say?
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_moved.2Frenamed_my_data_file_and_my_reports_disappeared._How_do_I_get_them_back.3F

"Reports are stored in a separate file in the ~/.gnucash/books
directory." 

Nope, no such directory
$ ls ~/.gnucash/books
ls: cannot access '/home/liz/.gnucash/books': No such file or directory


OK, I am supposed to know what I am doing, and I can't this time,
having advanced from 4.14 to 5.1, find where to put my preferences
file(s).

There is a serious disconnect between the documentation and the new
version here. 
I can understand that a person less familiar with Gnucash could have a
lot of difficulty moving to a new computer.

And by the way, where does the new version expect to find my *.gcm
files??

Liz
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer. Linux version

[David Cousens]

Liz,

The saved reports are in /home/liz/.local/share/gnucash/saved_reports2.8.
GNC_USERDATA_DIR is the location for the user preferences data and does not
refer to the users gnucash data files which are always stored in a location of
choice under the users's home directory , i.e. it is not specified by GnuCash
but by the users.

Part of the confusion for new users is that there is no one location in the
documentation which discusses the location of the book data files and the user
preference files. The most complete info is in the wiki,  but new users are not
going to necessarily go there. It is further complicated by having had to shift
with  upgrades to the various libraries used by GnuCash  which forces change in
the locations between differnt GnuCash Versions.  Add to that that the three
OS's all store such data differently.

Maybe the wiki contents are sufficiently mature to be put in the main
documentation.

David Cousens

On Sun, 2023-08-13 at 10:40 +1000, Liz wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 17:00:35 +0300
> Shevach Pepper  wrote:
> 
> >    I’m sure this is really simple but I’m not successful.
> > 
> >    I installed gnucash on new computer but I can’t find an option to
> >    import all my old accounts from old computer. I’m sure this has
> > been asked before, but I can’t find any instructions on how to do it.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I've just had to do this because I dropped my laptop.
> I've gone from 4.14 to 5.1 in the same move.
> 
> I've transferred my ~/ (home directory) from one computer to the new
> one.
> Gnucash opens, but a lot of my preferences are gone, and even which is
> my next invoice number.
> I open Gnucash > Help > About, and attach the screenshot.
> 
> This tells me where to look for my preferences, data etc.
> GNC_USERDATA_DIR is /home/liz/.local/share/gnucash
> Nope, my data files are in subdirectories of
> /home/liz/Nextcloud/gnucash/
> My *.gcm files are under books in ~/.local/share/gnucash/
> 
> $ ls /home/liz/.local/share/gnucash
> accelerator-map  deviceidhashsalts    qif-accounts-map  storage
> books    expressions-2.0  saved-reports-2.8
> stylesheets-2.0 checks   hsts-storage.sqlite
> saved-reports-2.8-backup  translog
> 
> 
> GNC_USERCONFIG_DIR is /home/liz/.config/gnucash
> Nope, this directory is empty (and I checked two other computers that
> have shared this data and all are empty directories here)
> 
> 
> What does the FAQ say?
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_moved.2Frenamed_my_data_file_and_my_reports_disappeared._How_do_I_get_them_back.3F
> 
> "Reports are stored in a separate file in the ~/.gnucash/books
> directory." 
> 
> Nope, no such directory
> $ ls ~/.gnucash/books
> ls: cannot access '/home/liz/.gnucash/books': No such file or directory
> 
> 
> OK, I am supposed to know what I am doing, and I can't this time,
> having advanced from 4.14 to 5.1, find where to put my preferences
> file(s).
> 
> There is a serious disconnect between the documentation and the new
> version here. 
> I can understand that a person less familiar with Gnucash could have a
> lot of difficulty moving to a new computer.
> 
> And by the way, where does the new version expect to find my *.gcm
> files??
> 
> Liz
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer. Linux version

[Liz]

On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 11:15:52 +1000
David Cousens  wrote:

> The saved reports are in
> /home/liz/.local/share/gnucash/saved_reports2.8. GNC_USERDATA_DIR is
> the location for the user preferences data 

all very well, but that file
~/.local/share/gnucash/books/*.gcm contains the data for the registry
displays but where is the date format, the last invoice number,
accounting period and so on?

Liz
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer. Linux version

[David Cousens]

I have to confess I don't know where that info is hiding. I tried changing the
format from the default locale for the date but couldn't see anything changing
in the .gcm file. Same for invoice number.
John may be able to tell us where the various bits of info go. I used "find -
mmin -120" to try and locate any files which had changed in the last 120 min
with no luck. if we can get the info then I can try updating the wiki and work
longer term perhaps on getting that info into the documentation.

David

On Sun, 2023-08-13 at 12:50 +1000, Liz wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 11:15:52 +1000
> David Cousens  wrote:
> 
> > The saved reports are in
> > /home/liz/.local/share/gnucash/saved_reports2.8. GNC_USERDATA_DIR is
> > the location for the user preferences data 
> 
> all very well, but that file
> ~/.local/share/gnucash/books/*.gcm contains the data for the registry
> displays but where is the date format, the last invoice number,
> accounting period and so on?
> 
> Liz
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Re: [GNC] How to transfer all my accounts etc. to new computer. Linux version

[Liz]

On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 14:08:49 +1000
David Cousens  wrote:

> I have to confess I don't know where that info is hiding. I tried
> changing the format from the default locale for the date but couldn't
> see anything changing in the .gcm file. Same for invoice number.
> John may be able to tell us where the various bits of info go. I used
> "find - mmin -120" to try and locate any files which had changed in
> the last 120 min with no luck. if we can get the info then I can try
> updating the wiki and work longer term perhaps on getting that info
> into the documentation.
> 
> David

I just don't know, and having used rsync -av to move everything, I am
not sure what has been missed. If the data has moved in the upgrade I
can understand that my method may have not been a sure method of data
transfer when changing computers.

Certainly once we have the data we can update the documentation.

Liz
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