[GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
> Next ... to learn how to help revise/expand this page- https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/acct-delete.html ... to capture what I've learned here. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation_Improvement Fairly daunting for many. It might be simpler to just contribute suggested modified text to the mailing list and let someone else do the revision. Regards ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
Thank you Fred, you nailed it - the "old" checking acct (the one I want to delete) is Type=Bank. The "new" checking acct into which I want to roll the txn's from the old acct was Type=Asset. And thanks for all the other responses as well. Next ... to learn how to help revise/expand this page- https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/acct-delete.html ... to capture what I've learned here. Thanks again Fred + all. And again big thank you to dev's + all who have contributed to and maintain this great program + community. Chris On 6/3/24 17:48, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 17:22:31 +0100 From: "Fred Bone" To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct Message-ID: <665dedc7.32669.e533...@fred.mandfb.me.uk> Some experimenting (2.6.21, but it doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that would have changed) it appears to restrict to the same Account Type. If I try to delete a "Bank" account under Assets, it offers all the other Bank accounts (including the Orphan and Imbalance ones). For a Cash account it offers all the Cash accounts. Obviously not exhaustive testing but might help. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
On 6/3/2024 12:28 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote: Is there any reason why not just simply rename account and then re-parent the account to where you actually want the transaction to show in the account list rather than delete the account and move the transactions during delete? Well -- the person is having a general problem so I thought not to comment on that. But yes, I can't see a good reason to DELETE an obsolete bank account (balance now zero). I would think, if examining old transaction that were against this account, you'd want to be able to do that. Just "hide" it if you don't want it to take up visible space in your CoA. HOWEVER -- what somebody just said might explain why I have never encountered the problem. Type "bank", type "cash", etc. LOL, being from the old days I wouldn't be using things like that. For example, under Assets I would have children "current assets", "investments", "fixed assets", etc. Under "current assets" I would have "cash" and all current "bank accounts << I'm here, savings accounts are "current assets" >> The point is that ALL of these accounts, placeholding parents and children would be of fundamental type asset. So if THIS is what is causing the problem, subtypes offered by gnucash that have no meaning in old fashioned bookkeeping, I would not have experienced the problem. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can I set an option to stop auto-fill ?
I think that the autocompletiin feature was refined somewhere in the 5.x series of releases such that in rrelease 5.6 for some cases there is now a pop-up offering a couple of options to choose from. I dont remember the details and i am sending this from my phone where it is too difficuly to fix typos. On Mon, Jun 3, 2024, 3:36 PM Glenn Fowler wrote: > One way to "disable" is to simply add a space after the description and it > will turn off. Another way is to choose "Don't autocomplete" in the > autocomplete list. > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 4:13 PM sunfish62--- via gnucash-user < > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > It doesn't exist. > > > > David T. > > > > On Jun 3, 2024, 11:00 PM, at 11:00 PM, Mark at Lorimark < > > m...@lorimarksolutions.com> wrote: > > >I don't see an option to turn off the auto-complete. > > > > > >~mark petryk > > >~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com > > > > > >On 6/3/24 14:44, fromvendor wrote: > > >> Hi y'all! > > >> > > >> I am finding the auto-complete function to be more troublesome than > > >not and I'd like a way to turn it off. I don't mind it overmuch > > >filling in the account so much as the amount and the splits. I'd > > >rather have none of it that have the confustion (that's confusion and > > >frustration in a word) caused by the auto-fill. > > >> > > >> I, BTW, am loving the software. I'm sure the setting is in there > > >somewhere, I'm just not finding it. > > >> > > >___ > > >gnucash-user mailing list > > >gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > >- > > >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can I set an option to stop auto-fill ?
One way to "disable" is to simply add a space after the description and it will turn off. Another way is to choose "Don't autocomplete" in the autocomplete list. On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 4:13 PM sunfish62--- via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > It doesn't exist. > > David T. > > On Jun 3, 2024, 11:00 PM, at 11:00 PM, Mark at Lorimark < > m...@lorimarksolutions.com> wrote: > >I don't see an option to turn off the auto-complete. > > > >~mark petryk > >~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com > > > >On 6/3/24 14:44, fromvendor wrote: > >> Hi y'all! > >> > >> I am finding the auto-complete function to be more troublesome than > >not and I'd like a way to turn it off. I don't mind it overmuch > >filling in the account so much as the amount and the splits. I'd > >rather have none of it that have the confustion (that's confusion and > >frustration in a word) caused by the auto-fill. > >> > >> I, BTW, am loving the software. I'm sure the setting is in there > >somewhere, I'm just not finding it. > >> > >___ > >gnucash-user mailing list > >gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >- > >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can I set an option to stop auto-fill ?
It doesn't exist. David T. On Jun 3, 2024, 11:00 PM, at 11:00 PM, Mark at Lorimark wrote: >I don't see an option to turn off the auto-complete. > >~mark petryk >~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com > >On 6/3/24 14:44, fromvendor wrote: >> Hi y'all! >> >> I am finding the auto-complete function to be more troublesome than >not and I'd like a way to turn it off. I don't mind it overmuch >filling in the account so much as the amount and the splits. I'd >rather have none of it that have the confustion (that's confusion and >frustration in a word) caused by the auto-fill. >> >> I, BTW, am loving the software. I'm sure the setting is in there >somewhere, I'm just not finding it. >> >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can I set an option to stop auto-fill ?
I don't see an option to turn off the auto-complete. ~mark petryk ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 6/3/24 14:44, fromvendor wrote: Hi y'all! I am finding the auto-complete function to be more troublesome than not and I'd like a way to turn it off. I don't mind it overmuch filling in the account so much as the amount and the splits. I'd rather have none of it that have the confustion (that's confusion and frustration in a word) caused by the auto-fill. I, BTW, am loving the software. I'm sure the setting is in there somewhere, I'm just not finding it. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Can I set an option to stop auto-fill ?
Hi y'all! I get so many things from online vendors (Amazon, Microsoft, etc, etc) and they are generally different and going to various different accounts and sometimes they have splits. I am finding the auto-complete function to be more troublesome than not and I'd like a way to turn it off. I don't mind it overmuch filling in the account so much as the amount and the splits. I'd rather have none of it that have the confustion (that's confusion and frustration in a word) caused by the auto-fill. I, BTW, am loving the software. I'm sure the setting is in there somewhere, I'm just not finding it. I'm certainly open to what I'd like the software to do. I realize this is an open source project and I'm no-longer (as in ancient) in the coding world or I would attempt something myself (I wouldn't mind being able to help out but I'm a Windows and Mainframe assembly guy so no relevant skills I suspect). Anyway, what I'd like is if the "prior" transaction has splits, then simply leave the whole thing un-populated. If it doesn't have splits, go ahead and put in the account. Leave the cursor in the account field and don't fill in anything else (notes, amount, etc). That would be ideal for me. Simply turning off the auto-complete is, I expect, a simpler option and probably already there I just don't know where to turn it off. Thanks all & Blessings! -greg ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Need help with eBay - tagging multiple sales into one payout hitting checking two business days later
For transfers, I put both dates in the description, and start it at the from date for ease of reconciling that account, then move it to the to date for ease in reconciling that account. I have not tried that for checks, but might start them when cleared and then move them to when written. Even ACH often shows up a business day later. So much of the business world still runs like it did on daily tape master file updates, where they fed one or more tapes of input transactions and inquiries into a tape master file update and got one or more output transaction tapes. They could do it in real time on disk. The only downside for instant real time is that a delay with notification allows the account owner a chance at catching fraud. Similarly, some CC make me wait days for a statement, as if printing paper, when they could generate the pdf from their RDBMS for me interactively one second after midnight after the cycle! On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 11:37:12 AM EDT, R Losey wrote: On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 3:40 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote: I like to record my checks written on the day they were written, not cashed, but am frustrated that then I cannot check when they cleared! Float is nice, especially if you get interest, but not something I bank on! :D Similarly, one bank puts a 3 day hold on transfers, so the money goes out one day and shows up in the other account 3-5 days later! Maybe another field would be nice? I don't want to create a limbo account and two transactions to hold the value when it is floating! I have run into this same thing when transferring funds from one institution to another. I have settled on the practice of using the date when it shows up at the "TO" institution rather than the "FROM" of the previous one; and I usually enter it when the "FROM" initiates the transfer... so there is a future transaction when I enter it to know that it is "in transit" -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
Is there any reason why not just simply rename account and then re-parent the account to where you actually want the transaction to show in the account list rather than delete the account and move the transactions during delete? -Original Message- From: Mark at Lorimark Sent: Monday, June 03, 2024 8:19 AM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct Yes, pretty basic simple small business file, checking, savings, CD's... ~mark petryk ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 6/3/24 07:17, Derek Atkins wrote: > I presume the accounts have the same currency? > I honestly do not recall what algorithm is used to choose options there. > > -derek > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
On 03 June 2024 at 8:17, Derek Atkins said: > I presume the accounts have the same currency? > I honestly do not recall what algorithm is used to choose options there. Some experimenting (2.6.21, but it doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that would have changed) it appears to restrict to the same Account Type. If I try to delete a "Bank" account under Assets, it offers all the other Bank accounts (including the Orphan and Imbalance ones). For a Cash account it offers all the Cash accounts. Obviously not exhaustive testing but might help. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Need help with eBay - tagging multiple sales into one payout hitting checking two business days later
On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 3:40 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > I like to record my checks written on the day they were written, not > cashed, but am frustrated that then I cannot check when they cleared! > Float is nice, especially if you get interest, but not something I bank > on! :D Similarly, one bank puts a 3 day hold on transfers, so the money > goes out one day and shows up in the other account 3-5 days later! Maybe > another field would be nice? I don't want to create a limbo account and > two transactions to hold the value when it is floating! > I have run into this same thing when transferring funds from one institution to another. I have settled on the practice of using the date when it shows up at the "TO" institution rather than the "FROM" of the previous one; and I usually enter it when the "FROM" initiates the transfer... so there is a future transaction when I enter it to know that it is "in transit" -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
Yes, pretty basic simple small business file, checking, savings, CD's... ~mark petryk ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 6/3/24 07:17, Derek Atkins wrote: I presume the accounts have the same currency? I honestly do not recall what algorithm is used to choose options there. -derek ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
I presume the accounts have the same currency? I honestly do not recall what algorithm is used to choose options there. -derek On Mon, June 3, 2024 8:00 am, Mark at Lorimark wrote: > Yea, I tried that, thinking the same. It didn't work. One of the > assets it presented was in a different tree. I added a 'test' account > there and it didn't show, then moved that test account to the same > branch as the account I was trying to delete, still no joy. > > ~mark petryk > ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com > > On 6/3/24 06:57, Derek Atkins wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I admit I have not used the function, but my recollection is that it >> only >> lets you roll it up into a parent account -- so if you want to choose a >> specific account you need to re-parent the account-to-be-deleted under >> the >> account you want to move the transactions into, and then when you delete >> it you should be able to choose the new parent. >> >> I'll note that I have not tried to verify this belief, so YMMV. >> >> -derek > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
Yea, I tried that, thinking the same. It didn't work. One of the assets it presented was in a different tree. I added a 'test' account there and it didn't show, then moved that test account to the same branch as the account I was trying to delete, still no joy. ~mark petryk ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 6/3/24 06:57, Derek Atkins wrote: Hi, I admit I have not used the function, but my recollection is that it only lets you roll it up into a parent account -- so if you want to choose a specific account you need to re-parent the account-to-be-deleted under the account you want to move the transactions into, and then when you delete it you should be able to choose the new parent. I'll note that I have not tried to verify this belief, so YMMV. -derek ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
Hi, I admit I have not used the function, but my recollection is that it only lets you roll it up into a parent account -- so if you want to choose a specific account you need to re-parent the account-to-be-deleted under the account you want to move the transactions into, and then when you delete it you should be able to choose the new parent. I'll note that I have not tried to verify this belief, so YMMV. -derek On Mon, June 3, 2024 7:43 am, Mark at Lorimark wrote: > I'm curious what your account tree looks like. > > I just tried to delete an account, and it only shows a couple of my > other asset accounts. I created a 'test' account, and even that didn't > show up... interesting. > > Never used that before, not sure what's expected of it. > > ~mark petryk > ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com > > On 6/2/24 17:21, Chris Skudder wrote: >> I'm on Flathub 5.4.1, on Xubuntu 22.04 (xml db). >> >> I tried to delete a closed checking acct, and move the transactions to >> another checking acct. >> >> When in the "Delete Acct" dialog box, I get the button to move >> transactions to another acct, and GnuCash offers another asset acct - >> but not the one I want. >> >> I cannot change this "move to" acct - I can't type the name of the acct >> that I want into the box. I can type characters, but whatever I type, it >> only offers the one single acct which it first offers. The dropdown also >> offers Imbalance + Orphan. >> >> I looked here - >> https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/acct-delete.html >> ... didn't find any mention of how to specify the "move-to" acct. >> >> Any ideas? Thanks in advance. >> > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Delete acct + move txns - can't specify acct
I'm curious what your account tree looks like. I just tried to delete an account, and it only shows a couple of my other asset accounts. I created a 'test' account, and even that didn't show up... interesting. Never used that before, not sure what's expected of it. ~mark petryk ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com On 6/2/24 17:21, Chris Skudder wrote: I'm on Flathub 5.4.1, on Xubuntu 22.04 (xml db). I tried to delete a closed checking acct, and move the transactions to another checking acct. When in the "Delete Acct" dialog box, I get the button to move transactions to another acct, and GnuCash offers another asset acct - but not the one I want. I cannot change this "move to" acct - I can't type the name of the acct that I want into the box. I can type characters, but whatever I type, it only offers the one single acct which it first offers. The dropdown also offers Imbalance + Orphan. I looked here - https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/acct-delete.html ... didn't find any mention of how to specify the "move-to" acct. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
