Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.

[Gyle McCollam]

Liz,
I agree.  It seems like and I could be/probably am wrong that you thought I was 
advocating for user to download the transactions instead of entering them.  
That is not the case.  Gnucash is great because it lets you handle it the way 
you want.  In fact, you have the ability to handle some accounts with one 
method (M) and other accounts (K).  I actually am more in the (M) group for the 
reasons Michael D Novack explained in his response.  The only transaction I let 
the download import initially is the interest received at the end statement 
period.  If an account has less than a handful of transactions I manually 
reconcile, but if more, I import and match.  As I said, that is the beauty of 
Gnucash, it lets you use different methods


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of ed...@billiau.net 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 4:57 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 15:38:25 +0000
Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> You really should try to download and import transactions.

This is a philosophical point.
There is group "M" who always enter every transaction first in their
books and then use the bank documents to reconcile

and

There is group "K" who enter some things and use the bank download to
keep their accounts.

There are pros and cons to each method. Gnucash allows you to make your
own choice.


Liz
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Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.

[Gyle McCollam]

I use my credit cards as much as I can and I have 40 to 50 transactions on my 
main card per month.  Yes, CSV can be more of an issue, but I have found that 
most, except for Discover, have an option to download as QFX/OFX.  The real 
time saver is that once you go through the matching process to make sure 
everything is correct the reconciliation is done.  I find it a real time saver 
and I hope you do as well.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: R Losey 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 3:28 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: Chip Reid ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.

I may try it; I've seen several people talking about problems with it, or 
having to massage the CSV data before importing it.

You say once I try it, I'll never go back, but I have; I had it with Quicken, 
and it was nice and helpful... but I've been in GnuCash for years now and I 
don't miss that feature. I don't know how many brokerage companies, credit 
cards, and bank accounts support it, but if they all did, it would only be 
maybe 60 transactions per month or so, and I really am quite happy doing it 
manually. I may try one of the credit card accounts.


On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:
You really should try to download and import transactions.  It is a rather 
simple process and you can choose to reconcile during the import function.  
Most financial institutions allow you to download transactions, either from a 
date range or statement period.  There are some slight differences, but most 
allow OFX/QFX or CSV file types.  If you input the transactions yourself, it 
will attempt to match the import transactions to the ones you entered, usually 
I don't have to change anything but the choice between (a)dd, (u+c) (update + 
clear), or (c)lear.  If you don't enter the transactions yourself the import 
function will allow you to choose the other side of the double entry (other 
account).  You can select to see the matching account and whether you wish to 
reconcile after matching.  This basically does the reconciliation for you.  
Take the time to try it with one account, a one with few transactions.  Once 
you do that i promise you will never go back to the "old" manual reconciliation 
method!


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user 
mailto:gmail@gnucash.org>>
 on behalf of R Losey mailto:rlo...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:30 AM
To: Chip Reid mailto:cwre...@gmail.com>>
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.

I used Quicken (not QuickBooks) before GnuCash, and I did kind of like
downloading transactions... I have not done this with GnuCash, and I don't
really have enough that I miss it. I do reconcile credit card statements
and other items routinely so that I don't miss anything, but I've just
gotten a lot better at remembering things.  Of course, if you have a lot of
transactions, you may really need that download.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:18 PM Chip Reid 
mailto:cwre...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> This is my second post to the list and I was very pleased with how willing
> others were to help us new guys.  The promptness was also appreciated.
>
> I think I have finally gotten far enough along to do most daily functions
> but I sure would like to download transactions from my bank and credit card
> companies.  I had been doing this for years in Quickbooks but so far, even
> following the available on-line information, I have not been able to get it
> to work.  My bank does not show up in the list for choosing the bank name.
>
> Windows 10 Pro
> GNUCash 4.13
>
> Thanks
>
> Chip Reid
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Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.

[Gyle McCollam]

You really should try to download and import transactions.  It is a rather 
simple process and you can choose to reconcile during the import function.  
Most financial institutions allow you to download transactions, either from a 
date range or statement period.  There are some slight differences, but most 
allow OFX/QFX or CSV file types.  If you input the transactions yourself, it 
will attempt to match the import transactions to the ones you entered, usually 
I don't have to change anything but the choice between (a)dd, (u+c) (update + 
clear), or (c)lear.  If you don't enter the transactions yourself the import 
function will allow you to choose the other side of the double entry (other 
account).  You can select to see the matching account and whether you wish to 
reconcile after matching.  This basically does the reconciliation for you.  
Take the time to try it with one account, a one with few transactions.  Once 
you do that i promise you will never go back to the "old" manual reconciliation 
method!


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of R Losey 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:30 AM
To: Chip Reid 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.

I used Quicken (not QuickBooks) before GnuCash, and I did kind of like
downloading transactions... I have not done this with GnuCash, and I don't
really have enough that I miss it. I do reconcile credit card statements
and other items routinely so that I don't miss anything, but I've just
gotten a lot better at remembering things.  Of course, if you have a lot of
transactions, you may really need that download.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:18 PM Chip Reid  wrote:

> This is my second post to the list and I was very pleased with how willing
> others were to help us new guys.  The promptness was also appreciated.
>
> I think I have finally gotten far enough along to do most daily functions
> but I sure would like to download transactions from my bank and credit card
> companies.  I had been doing this for years in Quickbooks but so far, even
> following the available on-line information, I have not been able to get it
> to work.  My bank does not show up in the list for choosing the bank name.
>
> Windows 10 Pro
> GNUCash 4.13
>
> Thanks
>
> Chip Reid
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Re: [GNC] Can a bank account have sub-accounts?

[Gyle McCollam]

I agree with Michael.

If the OP had separate accounts at the same bank, in Gnucash he could have a 
parent account of BANK and subaccounts for each separate account (AACT1, ACCT2, 
ACCT3, etc.).  In this case he would receive separate statements for each 
account and could reconcile each.  On the other hand, if as he states, he wants 
one acct at the bank and subaccount for each type of expenditure he could set 
up the parent as BANK.  This is the same as the 1st case.  Under this parent he 
could set up Gnucash accounts as Virtual ACCT1, Virtual ACCT2, etc.  He would 
receive only 1 bank statement and he could reconcile the parent acct, selecting 
to include subaccount by checking the box under "Ending Balance".  As long as 
there is no legal requirement to keep the funds in separate accounts I don't 
see any harm in tracking it this way.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Michael or Penny Novack 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 10:18 AM
To: Vincent Dawans 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Can a bank account have sub-accounts?

On 3/13/2023 5:47 PM, Vincent Dawans wrote:
> This sort of fund accounting is typically taken care of by using the
> analytical dimension feature offered by some accounting softwares.
> Unfortunately gnuCash doesn't have that feature (yet).
> Here is an article somewhat explaining how it works (for a different
> accounting package):
> https://www.bakertilly.com/insights/tame-your-wild-not-for-profit-chart-of-accounts-with-dimensions

That was not the situation this person was asking about.

Non-profits often have "restricted" donations, funds donated that are
only usable for certain purposes. That restriction can be formal/legal,
in which case really should be kept in a segregated account. But a small
non-profit might have not enough to bother with that and might have some
funds only "morally restricted" (can, in emergencies, used for other
purposes).

Even when restricted funds kept in a separate account, if a small
org/small amounts the several restricted funds might be kept in a single
account.

Michael D Novack (who has been treasurer of several 501(c)3 orgs


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Re: [GNC] User defined currencies in "Expense Accounts"

[Gyle McCollam]

As to #3, I track my utilities with a spreadsheet in Libre Office.  What are 
you trying to track, kwh usage or cost per kwh?  In my spreadsheet I track 
both, plus differences with last year.  In Gnucash you could put this info in 
the "notes" field, but reporting on tis info I'm not sure about.  Another way 
that won't screw up your financial reporting is to set up subaccounts under 
electric.  One account for say kwh and a contra account for the -kwh.  You 
could record the kwh used in the first and the opposite value in the contra so 
they net to zero and don't affect financial reporting.  That way you could get 
a report on just the positive account for usage.  I myself would use the 
spreadsheet approach.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Charles Crossan 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 10:51 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] User defined currencies in "Expense Accounts"

While doing my monthly ritual of breaking down my utility bill into
GNUcash, I had the idea of using a user defined currency for electricity
(Kilowatt Hours - kWh) and Water (gallons).  I'd like to be able to chart
my "real usage" as well as rate fluctuations.

I've been using GNUCash for over 10 years, and have created a bunch of
custom currencies for stocks / etc; however, this is the first time I
thought about using it for tracking utility units.

I got as far as creating the kWh currency when I realized that there's no
way to choose a "non ISO 4217" currency for expense accounts.

The GNUCash documentation seems to indicate that Income and Expense
accounts are only able to use "National Currencies" (12.2.1.1. User-Defined
Currencies -
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/currency_manual.html
<https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/currency_manual.html>).

I'm wondering:

   1. Is there a functional reason for this requirement; or is it an
   arbitrary UI restriction?
   2. Would the application behave erratically if I were to manually edit
   the expense account in SQL to use my own currency?
   3. How is everyone else handling utility tracking?  I realize I'm
   probably a tad crazy for wanting this level of detail.

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Re: [GNC] No longer receiving the e-mail from the user group

[Gyle McCollam]

Ken,
I use outlook.com as well, but I have no issues.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: David H 
Date: 2/24/23 6:47 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ken Pyzik 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] No longer receiving the e-mail from the user group

Ken,

Have you checked your subscription settings at
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ?

Cheers David H.


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> It appears that as of earlier this week, I stopped receiving e-mail from
> the group e-mail list.  Not sure what it is – but my suspicion is that is
> may be getting rejected at the Microsoft server side of things (since I am
> an outlook.com domain user).
>
> Can anyone see if my suspicion is correct or if there are any other e-mail
> servers affected?  Thanks to all.
>
> Ken
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
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Re: [GNC] Cash on Hand [was: Interest Income]

[Gyle McCollam]

I track all the money I spend, but my wife doesn't want to be bothered.  So, 
when she takes money from the bank or other sources, I just credit that source 
and expense the money to an account named for her.  you could do the same for 
each person's "mad" money.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of R Losey 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 4:36 PM
To: Larry Long 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Cash on Hand [was: Interest Income]

It's a good idea, but I apparently wasn't clear... we have set up a scheme
where each of us gets a certain amount of private money ("pin money" is an
old term for this; some call it "mad money" or "fun money") - it can  be
spent however the person chooses with no questions asked. We have
sub-accounts to track our private money, and when we take cash out, it is
taken away from the subaccount balance.  But when we spend cash from our
private fund, we don't track them (by choice).

Cash money spent that is NOT from our private account is tracked... and we
do have "Gifts" and "Gifts:Birthday" , and "Dining", etc.  We try to ensure
that we get receipts and record all of these.  Sometimes, we run to the
store for something small and pay cash - that, too is tracked.

Because of that, I just have to adjust the cash balance every now and then,
and "Adjustment" works well for our situation.

But thank you for the suggestions.

RL

On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 10:09 AM Larry Long  wrote:

>  M/M Losey,
> As you say, your actual cash funds can easily diverge from what is shown
> in your GNC 'Cash on Hand" account.Instead of periodically equalizing via a
> "Balance Adjustment" account, you might consider setting up some expense
> accounts that allow you to be more definitive.
> For recording known spending, you could have some accounts such as these:
>
>- Expenses:Gifts
>- Expenses:Gifts:Christmas
>- Expenses:Dining
>- Expenses:Dining:Cash Tips
>- Expenses:Personal Care
>- Expenses:Miscellaneous
> When you get a haircut for example, you could enter that as a $25 transfer
> from "Assets:Cash on Hand" to "Expenses:Personal Care".
> If you are like me, at the end of the month you might find only $60 in
> your wallet, while GNC shows $100 cash.  Knowing that you did, but not
> remembering where you spent the difference, you could always throw $40 in
> GNC from "Cash on Hand" into "Miscellaneous".
> Larry 
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 06:38:31 AM EST,
> gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org 
> wrote:
>  Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 21:24:49 -0600
> From: R Losey 
> To: Abe Sternberg 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Interest Income
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> In your example, one account is the savings account and the other would be
> something like "Income:Interest Income".
>
> I'm a non-bookkeeper (though I have had an overview of accounting);
> unfortunately, the general language which we use has "debit" used to mean
> "to take away from" and "credit" meaning "to add to". I could learn the
> proper distinction, but I just turn off the formal terms.
>
>
> To me, the idea of double-entry just means that every transaction needs to
> balance... for example, a deposit to your checking account doesn't come out
> of thin air -- it's either a salary or a gift or a refund or something you
> sold: there has to be SOMETHING that it came from.
>
> I had to create a "balance adjustment" account, since when I cash a check,
> I add the cash to "Cash on Hand", but some of that money is private
> spending money for family members, and that isn't tracked, so I routinely
> have to update the "Cash on Hand" balance.
>
> ...
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Re: [GNC] Interest Income

[Gyle McCollam]

Just think of double entry as when you are spending, the money comes from some 
account and is spent on something (expense account).  When you are receiving 
money, it comes from somewhere Income, donation, etc. and gets put into some 
asset account, savings, building fund, cash on hand.  There are two items for 
every expanse or receipt.


Thank You,

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From: Abe Sternberg 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 2:53 PM
To: Gyle McCollam ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Interest Income

That sounds too simple - I'll try it.  I really get confused with this 
double-entry business, but these records are for a non-profit and I have to be 
sure they are kept correctly.

Regards,
Abe

On 2/20/2023 14:31, Gyle McCollam wrote:
Just a thought, if you haven't set up your savings account before and you are 
setting up the initial balance as the transaction you are referring to you 
would debit the savings account and credit an equity account.  Most likely a 
beginning balances account.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user 
<mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail@gnucash.org>
 on behalf of Abe Sternberg 
<mailto:abe.h.sternb...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 12:46 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] Interest Income

I have just started using Gnucash for my savings account, not much money
involved here, and wanted to enter my first transaction.  Not being good
at double-entry bookkeeping, I have no idea what are the two off-setting
accounts.  I imagine that I use income, but what is the other account?

Thanks for your help to a dumb guy.

Abe
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Re: [GNC] Interest Income

[Gyle McCollam]

Just a thought, if you haven't set up your savings account before and you are 
setting up the initial balance as the transaction you are referring to you 
would debit the savings account and credit an equity account.  Most likely a 
beginning balances account.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Abe Sternberg 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 12:46 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Interest Income

I have just started using Gnucash for my savings account, not much money
involved here, and wanted to enter my first transaction.  Not being good
at double-entry bookkeeping, I have no idea what are the two off-setting
accounts.  I imagine that I use income, but what is the other account?

Thanks for your help to a dumb guy.

Abe
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Re: [GNC] Interest Income

[Gyle McCollam]

Yes, you would use an interest earned account.  You may have a general interest 
income account for all your interest or if you want to verify your interst 
earned at the end of the year you might want to set up an interest earned 
account for each payor under a parent account of interest earned.  The other 
account is easy, it is you savings account, you debit your savings account and 
credit the intersst earned account.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Abe Sternberg 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 12:46 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Interest Income

I have just started using Gnucash for my savings account, not much money
involved here, and wanted to enter my first transaction.  Not being good
at double-entry bookkeeping, I have no idea what are the two off-setting
accounts.  I imagine that I use income, but what is the other account?

Thanks for your help to a dumb guy.

Abe
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Re: [GNC] importing

[Gyle McCollam]

David T.,
Yes, it was a QFX file and the transactions had already been entered and I was 
importing the file to match and reconcile my credit card statement.  The 
transactions on the statement were all dated 01/22/2023, while the transactions 
in my Gnu Cash file had transaction date from 09/2022 thru 01/2023.  I imported 
the file and made the corrections in the reconciliation window.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: David T. 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2023 12:57 AM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: David Reiser via gnucash-user ; ed...@billiau.net 

Subject: Re: [GNC] importing

With regard to the import process, were the source files OFX/QFX, by chance?

That file format includes unique transaction IDs to prevent reimport of 
previously imported transactions. Under the circumstances, I'd opt to manually 
enter the transactions in question and reconcile after.

David T.
On Feb 17, 2023, at 5:55 AM, Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:

Liz,
Yes, I record all my transactions and then match with bank, credit card, etc.  
In this case, I think it was the gas stations fault as it happened with 
multiple Mastercard's.  It was nice not having to pay for gas for 6 months, but 
this month the charges showed up on both cards.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user 
http://gmail.com>@gnucash.org> on behalf 
of ed...@billiau.net 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 8:57 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] importing

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 23:53:35 +
Gyle McCollam  wrote:

 I ran into a unique problem with a credit card import.  I was buying
 gas at a station using a mastercard.  The transaction was on my
 credit card as pending, but would disappear and not be on my bill.
 This went on for 6 months, but they finally corrected the problem and
 billed me for the 6 months of gas this month.  However, when I
 imported the file it said there were no matching transactions.  I
 used preferences to change the import parameters, but I could not
 change the dates to allow for transactions that old.  I could set the
 proper expense account, but that would double up on the transaction.
 Is there a way to click or double click on the import matcher and
 manually select the matching transaction?


 Thank You,

 Gyle McCollam

This is an interesting case. Are you recording the credit card
transactions in your books regardless of the errors of the credit card
company?
It is an example of the advantages of maintaining your record from your
receipts and entering the transactions, because then you would know
that money was owing, and how much.

If something takes more than about 18 months to show up I remove it
from active lists but preserve the data in case it turns up eventually.
I won't specify a method, because it has failings.

Liz


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Re: [GNC] importing

[Gyle McCollam]

Liz,
Yes, I record all my transactions and then match with bank, credit card, etc.  
In this case, I think it was the gas stations fault as it happened with 
multiple Mastercard's.  It was nice not having to pay for gas for 6 months, but 
this month the charges showed up on both cards.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of ed...@billiau.net 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 8:57 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] importing

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 23:53:35 +0000
Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> I ran into a unique problem with a credit card import.  I was buying
> gas at a station using a mastercard.  The transaction was on my
> credit card as pending, but would disappear and not be on my bill.
> This went on for 6 months, but they finally corrected the problem and
> billed me for the 6 months of gas this month.  However, when I
> imported the file it said there were no matching transactions.  I
> used preferences to change the import parameters, but I could not
> change the dates to allow for transactions that old.  I could set the
> proper expense account, but that would double up on the transaction.
> Is there a way to click or double click on the import matcher and
> manually select the matching transaction?
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam

This is an interesting case. Are you recording the credit card
transactions in your books regardless of the errors of the credit card
company?
It is an example of the advantages of maintaining your record from your
receipts and entering the transactions, because then you would know
that money was owing, and how much.

If something takes more than about 18 months to show up I remove it
from active lists but preserve the data in case it turns up eventually.
I won't specify a method, because it has failings.

Liz
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[GNC] importing

[Gyle McCollam]

I ran into a unique problem with a credit card import.  I was buying gas at a 
station using a mastercard.  The transaction was on my credit card as pending, 
but would disappear and not be on my bill.  This went on for 6 months, but they 
finally corrected the problem and billed me for the 6 months of gas this month. 
 However, when I imported the file it said there were no matching transactions. 
 I used preferences to change the import parameters, but I could not change the 
dates to allow for transactions that old.  I could set the proper expense 
account, but that would double up on the transaction.  Is there a way to click 
or double click on the import matcher and manually select the matching 
transaction?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] View/Filter by & Edit/Find

[Gyle McCollam]

Derek,
I know the find function is unrelated to the auto complete function, I just 
thought it wouold be great if they fuctioned along the same lines, without 
regard to the limitation of the account register involved.  However, executing 
the "find" from the chart of accounts page instead of the register gets me what 
I need, so thank you for that, it is greatly appreciated!

I also know that is not a bug, but more of a feature request, but totally 
unnecessary, now that you pointed out iy can be done from the COA page.

However, since I now know you are one of the developers, can you explain what I 
am missing when I change the filter in the view and don't select "save", why it 
seems to save the new parameters instead of reverting to the old 90-day limit, 
even on a restart?

BTW, I want to thank you, John, and all the developers for a great piece of 
software.  I never regret the day I found Gnu Cash when I needed to replace my 
previous software!


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: Derek Atkins 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 12:49 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] View/Filter by & Edit/Find

Hi,

This is not a bug.  The "Find" function, when started from an open
register, will always filter on the register contents.  So if you have the
register limited to 90 days, the Find will only search there.

If you want to start from a "scratch" find then you need to go to the
Chart of Accounts page.

The Find function is completely unrelated to autocompletion.

-derek

On Thu, February 16, 2023 12:21 pm, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> When entering a new transaction in an account the auto complete works even
> if the transaction is older than the limit set in "View/Filter by", which
> is great and how I think it should work.  However, when you do an
> "Edit/Find", it only finds transactions within the date range of
> View/Filter by.  I think both the Auto Complete and Find should work the
> same way.
>
> Since they don't, I had to change the View /Filter by from the 90 days I
> had set on the account to All, but I didn't save the filter because I
> wanted it to go back to the 90 days when I finished.  I really don't think
> i should have had to change it all.  Anyway, this brought another problem
> to my attention.  How do you get the view back to 90 days without setting
> the "Filter by" again.  I tried closing and reopening the account, that
> didn't work.  So, I tried closing Gnu Cash and reopening, that didn't work
> either.  It appears that even though I didn't "save" the filter it saved
> it anyway.
>
> It would be best if we didn't have to change the filter just to do a find.
>  Is this a bug or bugs that should be reported when the Gnu Cash website
> comes back up?
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
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[GNC] View/Filter by & Edit/Find

[Gyle McCollam]

When entering a new transaction in an account the auto complete works even if 
the transaction is older than the limit set in "View/Filter by", which is great 
and how I think it should work.  However, when you do an "Edit/Find", it only 
finds transactions within the date range of View/Filter by.  I think both the 
Auto Complete and Find should work the same way.

Since they don't, I had to change the View /Filter by from the 90 days I had 
set on the account to All, but I didn't save the filter because I wanted it to 
go back to the 90 days when I finished.  I really don't think i should have had 
to change it all.  Anyway, this brought another problem to my attention.  How 
do you get the view back to 90 days without setting the "Filter by" again.  I 
tried closing and reopening the account, that didn't work.  So, I tried closing 
Gnu Cash and reopening, that didn't work either.  It appears that even though I 
didn't "save" the filter it saved it anyway.

It would be best if we didn't have to change the filter just to do a find.  Is 
this a bug or bugs that should be reported when the Gnu Cash website comes back 
up?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Sorry, I apparently only replied to Ken in my initial response instead of to 
"Reply All".

Thank you all!  I didn't think it was the setting "View>Filter By>{“Other” 
tab]>Show unused accounts" or "View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total 
Accounts" as when it didn't seem to add the account, I tried again.  On the 
second attempt, I did not get the error message that the account already 
existed.  I did get that message after reinstalling the software, so you were 
right that may have been prt of the issue.  I notice that even the subaccount 
indicator does not show up when the subaccounts are zero or not used.  I 
appreciate all the suggestions and happy to be running again.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Ken Farley 
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 11:17 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I've done this very thing to myself in the past. Turns out I wanted to
stop seeing a bunch of zero value accounts and didn't make them
"hidden", but instead unclicked the


View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total Accounts checkbox.


Since new accounts have a zero balance, voila (or maybe un-voila?) they
disappear as soon as they're created. What fun.
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Thank you all!  I didn't think it was the setting "View>Filter By>{“Other” 
tab]>Show unused accounts" or "View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total 
Accounts" as when it didn't seem to add the account, I tried again.  On the 
second attempt, I did not get the error message that the account already 
existed.  I did get that message after reinstalling the software, so you were 
right that may have been prt of the issue.  I notice that even the subaccount 
indicator does not show up when the subaccounts are zero or not used.  I 
appreciate all the suggestions and happy to be running again.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Ken Farley 
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 11:17 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I've done this very thing to myself in the past. Turns out I wanted to
stop seeing a bunch of zero value accounts and didn't make them
"hidden", but instead unclicked the


View->Filter By..->Other->Show Zero Total Accounts checkbox.


Since new accounts have a zero balance, voila (or maybe un-voila?) they
disappear as soon as they're created. What fun.
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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Michael,
Thank you.  I tried adding a "test" account in several locations, as a 
subaccount under Bank Cds, as a subaccount under assets, etc.  nothing worked.  
After reinstalling and using a different ?.gnucash backup, I did get it to 
work.  What the cause wasI just don't know.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Michael or Penny Novack 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 3:51 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

On 2/4/2023 2:27 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
>1.  It brings up the dialogue to set up the new account.  It lets me enter 
> all the information and when I click on OK the dialogue goes away and no new 
> account is set up.
>2.  No I don't have a large number of account, but I thought of that as 
> well.
>3.  We think alike as I tried entering a new transaction and that work 
> fine.
>4.  I also tried rebooting my PC, but that didn't work either.
>
All the information? Including what the parent of this new account is to
be (WHERE it is to appear in the Chart of Accounts)

Just grasping at straws as to what might possibly have gone wrong


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

Reinstalled Gnucash plus I used another version of the file (technically a 
backup file) that I had deleted earlier because I screwed up some entries and 
was trying to start over with an older backup.  Seems to be working correctly 
now.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.19) 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 2:34 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

On 2023-02-04 11:31, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> I tried "check and repair".  It ran for a while and then Windows said Gnucash 
> was not responding.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the program has stopped working. Use
Task Manager (Ctrl+Shift+Esc) to see whether it is still using CPU and
disk resources.

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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

No, I have not set up the directory as read only.

I tried "check and repair".  It ran for a while and then Windows said Gnucash 
was not responding.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: Fred Tydeman 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 2:18 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

Have you set the file or directory Read Only?

On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 11:02 AM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:
I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I want 
to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the deferred income. 
 Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it will not let me set up 
ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't 
help.  Any sugestions?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

  1.  It brings up the dialogue to set up the new account.  It lets me enter 
all the information and when I click on OK the dialogue goes away and no new 
account is set up.
  2.  No I don't have a large number of account, but I thought of that as well.
  3.  We think alike as I tried entering a new transaction and that work fine.
  4.  I also tried rebooting my PC, but that didn't work either.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: Ken Pyzik 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 2:13 PM
To: Gyle McCollam ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: RE: Adding new accounts

Without having any additional information, I going to make some assumptions.

1.  I am going to assume that you have already tried the Actions>>New Accounts 
menu item and it does not work
2.  That you have tried any other methods to add new accounts and they have not 
worked either

Based upon that -- I them would ask a few questions:

1. What happens when you click on the menu -- Actions - New account menu item?  
Does the program just sit there -- does it give an error?  This would be good 
information to know to help you diagnose the issue.

2.  Is there some theoretical limit on the number of accounts you can have -- 
and have you reached that limit?  My gut tells me that if there is some limit 
-- it is probably very high and therefore you probably have not reached it -- 
but this is just a guess on my part.

3.  Finally, that last thing I would ask is -- is your file locked or in some 
sort of "read-only" mode where you cannot edit it?  If this is true, you would 
not be able to add any transactions either -- so if you can add transactions to 
your existing accounts -- this is probably not the solution either -- but it is 
worth a try to ask.

Look these items over -- and let us know any additional information to help you 
diagnose the issue.

Ken



-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:02 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Adding new accounts

I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I want 
to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the deferred income. 
 Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it will not let me set up 
ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't 
help.  Any sugestions?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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[GNC] Adding new accounts

[Gyle McCollam]

I want to change my account structure.  I currently have an annuity, but I want 
to set up subaccounts for the original opening balance and the deferred income. 
 Gnucash will not let me set up subaccounts, in fact, it will not let me set up 
ANY new accounts!  I have tried closing and reopening Gnucash, but that doesn't 
help.  Any sugestions?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] How do I Upgrade from 2.6.12 to v4?

[Gyle McCollam]

Martin,
Since your computer can run window 10, yes just download and install 3.11 then 
run check and repair to verify it's all good.  Check it out some and then rinse 
and repeat for version 4.13.  Godd luck moving to a Mac.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Martin Taylor 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 4:47 PM
To: 'Glenn Serre' 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] How do I Upgrade from 2.6.12 to v4?

Data backed up 
Am running Windows 10
The two-step upgrade makes complete sense. I guess I just download and install 
v3.11 and take it from there 

M

Martin Taylor
Mobile: +64 27 335 3577
https://www.martintaylor.nz/

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Serre 
Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2023 10:37 AM
To: Martin Taylor 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] How do I Upgrade from 2.6.12 to v4?

Good afternoon,

Reminder: The first step should be to back up your data if you haven't already, 
especially if you are running on a dying PC.

-- Glenn S.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 1:21 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> Martin,
> Sorry to hear your PC is dying, but the upgrade is ot a complicated as you 
> think.  1st, what version of Windows are you running on the PC?  Next it is 
> recommended that you upgrade to a version 3.x, then run under "Actions" Check 
> and Repair.  After you have done that, you can upgrade to version 4.x and run 
> Check and Repair again.  You don't have to export or import at all.  When the 
> new version is installed, it will remove the old program, but NOT your data.  
> The new version will be able to pick up right where you left off.  To get to 
> the right place, click on Help then About within GNUCASH.  Near the bottom 
> you will see a link to "Visit the GnuCash website."  There you will see links 
> to version 3.11 which you could use to upgrade from your current version.  If 
> your computer can handle it you will then be able to upgrade to the current 
> version.  Same thing applies to a Mac.  There is no importing or exporting 
> required, all you would have to do is install GnuCash on the Mac, transfer 
> your data files to the new machine and GnuCash will take it from there.  If 
> you have any reports saved on your old Gnucash that could pose other 
> difficulties.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user 
> on behalf of Martin Taylor 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 3:48 PM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Subject: [GNC] How do I Upgrade from 2.6.12 to v4?
>
> Hi
>
> I’m a not very technical user whose been successfully running 2.6.12 on my 
> dying PC for about 8 years (since the imminent demise of MS Money!).
>
> I’m looking at migrating from PC to a Mac laptop and found that in the 
> meantime that several newer versions of GnuCash have been released.
>
> I’m assuming that it would be smart to upgrade before I migrate to the new 
> platform.
>
> Within 2.6.12 I can’t find where or how to upgrade to a new version.  My 
> guess is that I simply download the latest version 4 for PC and then export 
> accounts and transactions from 2.6 and import them into 4. Am I on the right 
> track?
>
> Having got that done, I would then imagine that I download the equivalent 
> version 4 for Mac to my laptop and again export and import the data.
>
> Fingers crossed that I’m sending this to the correct user forum and
> that someone can provide me with some advice
>
> Martin
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Re: [GNC] How do I Upgrade from 2.6.12 to v4?

[Gyle McCollam]

Martin,
Sorry to hear your PC is dying, but the upgrade is ot a complicated as you 
think.  1st, what version of Windows are you running on the PC?  Next it is 
recommended that you upgrade to a version 3.x, then run under "Actions" Check 
and Repair.  After you have done that, you can upgrade to version 4.x and run 
Check and Repair again.  You don't have to export or import at all.  When the 
new version is installed, it will remove the old program, but NOT your data.  
The new version will be able to pick up right where you left off.  To get to 
the right place, click on Help then About within GNUCASH.  Near the bottom you 
will see a link to "Visit the GnuCash website."  There you will see links to 
version 3.11 which you could use to upgrade from your current version.  If your 
computer can handle it you will then be able to upgrade to the current version. 
 Same thing applies to a Mac.  There is no importing or exporting required, all 
you would have to do is install GnuCash on the Mac, transfer your data files to 
the new machine and GnuCash will take it from there.  If you have any reports 
saved on your old Gnucash that could pose other difficulties.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Martin Taylor 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 3:48 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] How do I Upgrade from 2.6.12 to v4?

Hi

I’m a not very technical user whose been successfully running 2.6.12 on my 
dying PC for about 8 years (since the imminent demise of MS Money!).

I’m looking at migrating from PC to a Mac laptop and found that in the meantime 
that several newer versions of GnuCash have been released.

I’m assuming that it would be smart to upgrade before I migrate to the new 
platform.

Within 2.6.12 I can’t find where or how to upgrade to a new version.  My guess 
is that I simply download the latest version 4 for PC and then export accounts 
and transactions from 2.6 and import them into 4. Am I on the right track?

Having got that done, I would then imagine that I download the equivalent 
version 4 for Mac to my laptop and again export and import the data.

Fingers crossed that I’m sending this to the correct user forum and that 
someone can provide me with some advice

Martin
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Re: [GNC] Issuing a credit to customer

[Gyle McCollam]

Ryan,
It is not income.  It should be applied to the customers account and when you 
generate invoices for this customer, the money can then be applied to those 
invoices as payment until the amount is used up.  You also would not issue a 
credit note to the customer, but show it as a payment on the invoice if you can 
do that.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Ryan Carver 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 4:29 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Issuing a credit to customer

Hi all,

I am curious how one may resolve the following scenario in Gnucash.

A client sent me a payment check in the mail for $1,450.  The check was
lost in the mail so my client issued me a new check and I successfully
received and processed the payment in Gnucash.

Then a few months later the missing check appeared and I mistakenly
deposited the check without cross-referencing the check date and amount
(lesson learned there).  Now I have $1,450 extra in my checking account.
My client asked I just issue them a credit on their next invoice.

So my question is two-fold:

1)  How would I categorize the extra $1,450 since the original invoice has
already been marked paid?  Marking it as "assign as payment" does not seem
correct since there is no invoice to apply it to.  I was thinking I could
assign it to "Income - Sales" or possibly "Income - Other" and not process
it as a payment.

2)  How would I issue the Credit Note back to the client to be applied on
future invoices?




Thanks,



Ryan Carver

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Re: [GNC] Deleting split, specifying one expense account

[Gyle McCollam]

Stan,
If you are entering the "cash Groceries transaction" in the cash account, that 
is why it won't let you delete the cash account.  You can't delete a split from 
within the same account, you can delete splits for other account just not the 
one you are in currently.  You can, however change the amount to zero, but that 
leaves a transaction with no value in cash.  The first time you said you used a 
checking account.  If you enter the transaction from the "Groceries" account, 
it will let you delete the cash split.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.19) 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 11:29 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Deleting split, specifying one expense account


On 2023-01-28 08:11, Rich Shepard wrote:
> This used to work for me, but not today.
>
> The last transaction in the checking account for groceries was entered as a
> split because I took cash back (which displays in the cash register). Now I
> have a cash groceries transaction, but gnucash won't let me delete the
> split
> and enter only the credit for the groceries account.
>
> What am I doing incorrectly?

I don't know the answer to that question, but I can tell you the
workaround that I use in similar situations.

Instead of deleting the split in the Groceries account register, do it
in the General Ledger. In my GC menu it's the item Tools » General
Ledger, but possibly it's a different menu item in your version.

Don't use a Reports menu item; that won't let you edit any transactions.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
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Re: [GNC] How to move a transaction with splits from one top-level account to another - take 2

[Gyle McCollam]

Xe Roy,
David T. method is correct and best, but if you have already crested 
Liabilities:Credit Cards:Visa, you can also find the account in the Chart of 
Accounts page and select delete.  Gnucash will ask what account you want to 
move the transactions to and you can select the new account.  However, this is 
best used to move transactions to an account with a different name.  To move 
from Visa to Liab:CredCd:Visa, David T.s suggestion is the better method.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David T. via gnucash-user 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 10:57 AM
To: Xe Roy 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to move a transaction with splits from one top-level 
account to another - take 2

Assuming you have the Liabilities and Credit Cards accounts created, it's 
simple.  From the Chart of Accounts page, select the account you want to move 
(e.g., Visa) click the edit button, locate the Parent Account, change it to 
Liabilities:Credit Cards, and click Save.

Done.

⁣David T. ​

On Jan 19, 2023, 6:41 PM, at 6:41 PM, Xe Roy  wrote:
>David T.
>
>Thanks.
>Your advice makes sense.
>Since I have already created my credit card accounts as top-level
>accounts and they have about a month's worth of data, is it possible to
>move them to another account?
>Example: move VISA to LIABILITIES > CREDIT CARDS > VISA
>
>
>
>Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>
>
>From: David T. 
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 6:02 AM
>To: Xe Roy 
>Cc: Phyllis Bruce ; Fross, Michael
>; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>
>Subject: Re: [GNC] How to move a transaction with splits from one
>top-level account to another - take 2
>
>Xe Roy,
>
>Just a note that it's more common to structure your GnuCash accounts
>with just five top level accounts:
>
>Assets
>Liabilities
>Equity
>Income
>Expenses
>
>You'd put the "Credit Cards" account under Liabilities, with each
>credit card in its own account within Credit Cards,  like so:
>
>Liabilities
>- Credit Cards
>- - Visa
>- - Mastercard
>
>This groups the accounts in ways that make reporting clearer and
>easier.
>
>David T.
>On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:07 AM, Xe Roy
>mailto:xe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>Thanks everyone for your patience.
>I finally got it.
>I had to click on the transaction > click SPLITS > then find the line
>in the splits that says MASTER CARD > change that to VISA > ENTER
>
>
>
>
>Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>
>
>
>From: Phyllis Bruce 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 1:00 PM
>To: Fross, Michael 
>Cc: Xe Roy ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>
>Subject: Re: [GNC] How to move a transaction with splits from one
>top-level account to another - take 2
>
>Xe Roy,
>
>You will find if you just change your top level account in the
>transaction, the splits will follow it.  Just as Michael described
>above.  I've used jump but I find it just as easy to make that one
>correction.
>Additionally, if you found you chose the wrong account for one of your
>splits, just change it to the correct account and only that split gets
>changed.
>
>Hth - po
>
>On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 3:40 PM Fross, Michael
>mailto:mich...@fross.org>> wrote:
>When I notice I've placed a transaction in the wrong spot, I "jump" to
>the
>matching transaction and correct the credit card.  For example:
>
>I put my Walmart grocery into the CreditCard1 account instead of the
>CreditCard2 account.  I noticed this in the CreditCard1 account.
>
>1. "Jump" to the matching transaction.  So now I am in the Grocery
>account.
>2. Change that transaction to be CreditCard2 instead of the incorrect
>CreditCard1 account.
>3. Press enter.
>
>The transaction in Grocery is fine, but you'll find it's gone from
>CreditCard1 and now resides in CreditCard2.  The "Jump" command is your
>friend.
>
>Michael
>
>On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 3:31 PM Xe Roy
>mailto:xe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>I asked this question earlier but initial responses made me realize
>more
> detail was necessary.
>
> I am a newby to gnucash ... trying to switch from Quicken to gnucash.
> A mistake I regularly make is to enter a transaction into the wrong
> account.
> I'll have several accounts open and I just forget to switch.
> In Quicken, I just move the transaction (splits and all) to the new
> account.
>The Internet chatter I've found so far lead me to believe this feature
>is
> missing from gnucash.
>

Re: [GNC] Certificate of Deposit Early Withdrawal Penalty Account Entry

[Gyle McCollam]

Stephen,
I could be wrong, but I bet when you get the 1099 for the CD both the interest 
and principal penalties will be combined in the penalty box.  Technically, the 
penalty is defined as simple interest for x days (depending on the term of the 
CD).  I would bet the interest earned on the CD will also be the total 
interest, including that which was accrued and listed as the interest penalty.  
If that is the case, it would be more accurate to show the total penalty so you 
can match it to the 1099.  This is the 1st year I have cashed CD early, because 
of the rapid change in rates, so I will find out which way is better myself.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: Stephen 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:54 PM
To: Murugan Muruganandam ; Gyle McCollam 
; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Certificate of Deposit Early Withdrawal Penalty Account Entry

Interest is accounted for as income per CD account. The way I ended up doing it 
allows me to see how much interest I have earned by each and all accounts and 
the interest penalty and principal penalties are noted as to which account they 
were applicable but I do not track the penalties account by account (because 
the penalty is for closing the account -- a one time event).

On 1/15/2023 2:59 PM, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
stephen

one inquisitive question. did you receive any interest on the CD at all earlier 
and if so how did you account it




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
<mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+m.muruganandam=hotmail@gnucash.org>
 on behalf of Stephen 
<mailto:rilesthemtobeli...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:38 PM
To: Gyle McCollam <mailto:gmccol...@live.com>; 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Certificate of Deposit Early Withdrawal Penalty Account Entry

Thanks to you and Murugan I got this sorted. As usual, over-thought and
over-wrought. Although I'm sure I could show all the changes in one
split entry it was easiest for me to credit the interest 162.89 as one
standalone entry first. Then I could see my way clearly to showing the
two penalty sub-amounts totaling 1529.51. Intuitively I fairly certain I
could have shown the interest earned among the splits all as one entry
but I'm going to quit while I'm ahead. I just didn't want to lose the
detail of the separate penalty amounts nor their total.  Again, many thanks.

On 1/15/2023 11:23 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> I would enter this Murugan suggested. Let's say the balance of the CD
> prior to closing on your books was $300,000.00
>  Using the amounts you have given:
> Debit   Credit
> Asset: Acct moved to$298,633.38  (Closing Balance)
> Income: CD Interest   $162.89
> Exp: Bank: Penalties  $1529.51
> Asset: CD  $300,000.00 (Balance just prior
> to this entry)
>
> Thank You,
>
> *Gyle McCollam*
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@live.com> 
> <mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>email
>
> 
> *From:* gnucash-user
> <mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail@gnucash.org>
>  on behalf of
> Murugan Muruganandam 
> <mailto:m.muruganan...@hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 15, 2023 11:17 AM
> *To:* Stephen 
> <mailto:rilesthemtobeli...@gmail.com>; 
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Certificate of Deposit Early Withdrawal Penalty
> Account Entry
> hi Stephen
>
> The entries can be input as follows.  I could not understand where you
> are getting orphans or imbalances  if you can explain it would be easy
>
> Account Dr  Cr  Notes
> Principal   Asst: Bank Account  Asst: CD Account$
> Principal amount
> InterestAsst: Bank Account  Income: CD Interest
> Interest earned + partial month $162.89
> Penalty InterestExp: Bank: PenaltiesIncome: CD
> Interest Total penalty $1.529,51
>
>
>
>
>
> Saludos Cordiales
>
>
> Murugan
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user
> <mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+m.muruganandam=hotmail@gnucash.org>
>  on
> behalf of Stephen 
> <mailto:rilesthemtobeli...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 4:30 AM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
> <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
&

Re: [GNC] Certificate of Deposit Early Withdrawal Penalty Account Entry

[Gyle McCollam]

I would enter this Murugan suggested. Let's say the balance of the CD prior to 
closing on your books was $300,000.00
 Using the amounts you have given:
Debit   Credit
Asset: Acct moved to$298,633.38  (Closing Balance)
Income: CD Interest   $162.89
Exp: Bank: Penalties  $1529.51
Asset: CD  $300,000.00  (Balance just prior to this 
entry)


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Murugan Muruganandam 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 11:17 AM
To: Stephen ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Certificate of Deposit Early Withdrawal Penalty Account Entry

hi Stephen

The entries can be input as follows.  I could not understand where you are 
getting orphans or imbalances  if you can explain it would be easy

Account Dr  Cr  Notes
Principal   Asst: Bank Account  Asst: CD Account$ Principal 
amount
InterestAsst: Bank Account  Income: CD Interest Interest earned 
+ partial month $162.89
Penalty InterestExp: Bank: PenaltiesIncome: CD Interest Total 
penalty $1.529,51





Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
Stephen 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 4:30 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Certificate of Deposit Early Withdrawal Penalty Account Entry

I had a CD that I closed before it matured. The bank applied a penalty
of 90 days interest at the CD rate. In fact the total penalty was
figured as the sum of principal penalty of $1,366.62 and penalty amount
paid from interest earned for the period of a partial month of $162.89
for a total penalty of $1,529.51. The statement clearly shows a payment
of +$162.89 and a penalty of -$162.89 and a penalty amount from
principal of the $1,366.62.  The interest earned and penalized is a net
$0 so I could just book the $1,366.62 as a charge to the CD account and
as as an charge to an early withdrawal penalty account to obtain the
closing balance on the account. But it seems to me that I should be
booking at least 3 splits to show the interest earned account and
interest earned penalized account and the rest of the penalty as a
charge to the CD account but the numbers produce orphans or imbalances.
I'm treating all entries as income items so interest earned, interest
penalized, and a principal penalty. They are multiple entries and not
multiple splits in the CD income account. Is this the correct way to
book this? Some guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Re: [GNC] reconcile dates

[Gyle McCollam]

Technically, if your credit union credits the January payment in December and 
you have access to  the money in December it should be credited in your books 
in December, not January.  However, if you enter it as January in your books, I 
can see why you would need to have Gnucash look past the end date.  This 
happens to me as well, but I record the transaction in the month it happens, 
not when it is supposed to happen.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: David Reiser 
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 5:43 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: Kevin T ; David T. ; Gnucash 
Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] reconcile dates

My credit union activates deposits for my account when received. Deposits from 
outside that are intended for the first of the month are usually credited in 
the prior month. When that happens, I need gnucash to look beyond the end of 
the month for the transaction that represents a January payment credited in 
December, or my reconciliation will fail.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com





On Jan 7, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:

I to don't see the need to include transactions whose date falls beyond the 
closing date of the reconciliation.  Gnucash could cutoff any transactions 
whose date is after the closing date.  However, I will say that I have gotten 
used to this little quirk and since I import most of my monthly transactions 
(and the financial institution knows how to cut off transactions beyond the 
closing date) using QFX, when I reconcile the needed transactions have already 
been checked and the ones after the closing have not.  Even though in a manual 
reconciliation you wouldn't even look at transactions after the closing date, 
it does no harm to include them.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David T. via gnucash-user 
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 3:54 PM
To: Kevin T 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] reconcile dates

Your records and the bank's differ. The reconciliation date may include entries 
that you've entered with later dates, and how would GnuCash determine the 
proper cutoff?

Personally, I don't have trouble determining when the difference figure goes to 
0.

⁣David T. ​

On Jan 7, 2023, 11:45 PM, at 11:45 PM, Kevin T via gnucash-user 
 wrote:
Is there some reason that the reconcile feature looks past the closing
date specified?
I have imported numerous months of transactions for an account.  Trying
to reconcile only the first month with 0 balance and 0 transactions
before the starting date.  I provide the 'statement date' to the
reconcile feature and it brings up every transaction entered, even the
ones after the 'statement date'.
This is not how a person would reconcile this.  We could concern
ourselves with on the transactions that occur before the closing date
'statement date'.
Is there something I am missing ?
Kevin
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Re: [GNC] Request for Automatic Reconciliation Function

[Gyle McCollam]

I agree John, this is as close as you need to get to automatic reconciliation.  
The only items you need to look at are the ones that don't match and Gnucash 
would have no way of knowing what is correct.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of John Layman 
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 10:35 AM
To: 'Jim DeLaHunt' ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for Automatic Reconciliation Function

GnuCash already provides the nearest thing resembling "automatic" 
reconciliation.  It requires periodically downloading and importing account 
activity from the bank to mark which transactions have 'cleared'.  Then, in 
reconciliation, GnuCash automatically 'ticks' the cleared transactions.  Nine 
times out of ten in my experience, this reconciles the account with the bank 
statement.  There is no logical way to "automagically" reconcile discrepancies.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Jim DeLaHunt
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 8:35 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for Automatic Reconciliation Function

Bite Gao:

Thank you for continuing this conversation. I am glad to have your ideas in 
this discussion.

While I think I understand what feature you are asking for, I do see some 
difficulties with it. For example, you say:

On 2023-01-06 17:22, Bite Gao wrote:
> …For each split record in the GnuCash file, the program scan for its
> counterpart in the bank statement.… Personally, I do not found that
> how computer program could make mistake in this process.…

The obvious difficulty is that for a single transaction, the text in the 
GnuCash file is probably different than the text in its counterpart in the bank 
statement. For example, suppose I have a weekly purchase where I enter the 
description as "SPUD, Vancouver BC" and the date as January 5, but the bank 
statement may say "Small Potatoes Delivery * Paypal" and the date as January 6. 
 It is difficult — not impossible, but difficult — for GnuCash to see that 
these two transactions are counterparts. Their description text and their dates 
differ.

It turns out that GnuCash's Import Matcher can successfully recognise the link 
between these two.  But it often makes mistakes in this process.

Best regards,
 —Jim DeLaHunt


On 2023-01-06 17:22, Bite Gao wrote:
> GnuCash Developers and Maintainers:
>   Hello! While you pinpoint out the possibility of a mistake in
> automated process, it did not eliminate the meaning of the automatic
> reconciliation.
>   What an automatic reconciliation does is: the program concatenates
> the transaction's date, check number and the transaction amount from
> both the bank statement and the GnuCash file. For each split record in
> the GnuCash file, the program scan for its counterpart in the bank
> statement. And when the counterpart is found, the program marks the
> split as reconciled.
>   Personally, I do not found that how computer program could make
> mistake in this process. If you believe that the computer could have
> that happen, I would like to learn the detail about it.
>
>   Yours,
>
>Bite Gao
> Jan 7th, 2021
>
> On 2023/1/6 20:57, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>
>> I understand your explanation, but if you aren't checking and
>> verifying every transaction, how do you ever discover when the
>> automated process makes a mistake?
>>
>> Reconciliation was invented long before computers, but I appreciate
>> that the process demands one to slow down, take your time, and
>> methodically verify the information.
>>
>> Think of it as proof-reading - the hard way. (I learned in school to
>> read stuff backwards when proofing!)
>>
>> That is a pretty good analogy too:
>>
>> If you've ever used auto-correct with auto-checking for spelling and
>> grammar, or auto-suggestion or auto-completion for entire words and
>> have seen the embarrassment and/or nightmare that can produce when
>> the computer 'gets it wrong', would you want something like that for
>> your financial records?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> On 1/5/23 7:50 PM, Bite Gao wrote:
>>> GnuCash Developers and Maintainers:
>>>Hello! While you have mentioned the requirement of human
>>> intervene in the reconciliation process, I do not see it contradicts
>>> with the presence of automatically reconciliation system.
>>>In a reconcile process, the accountant check the record in the
>>> account book with the record in the bank statement (or statement
>>> from other institution). He (or she) may found out that two record
>>> are identic

Re: [GNC] reconcile dates

[Gyle McCollam]

I to don't see the need to include transactions whose date falls beyond the 
closing date of the reconciliation.  Gnucash could cutoff any transactions 
whose date is after the closing date.  However, I will say that I have gotten 
used to this little quirk and since I import most of my monthly transactions 
(and the financial institution knows how to cut off transactions beyond the 
closing date) using QFX, when I reconcile the needed transactions have already 
been checked and the ones after the closing have not.  Even though in a manual 
reconciliation you wouldn't even look at transactions after the closing date, 
it does no harm to include them.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David T. via gnucash-user 
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 3:54 PM
To: Kevin T 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] reconcile dates

Your records and the bank's differ. The reconciliation date may include entries 
that you've entered with later dates, and how would GnuCash determine the 
proper cutoff?

Personally, I don't have trouble determining when the difference figure goes to 
0.

⁣David T. ​

On Jan 7, 2023, 11:45 PM, at 11:45 PM, Kevin T via gnucash-user 
 wrote:
>Is there some reason that the reconcile feature looks past the closing
>date specified?
>I have imported numerous months of transactions for an account.  Trying
>to reconcile only the first month with 0 balance and 0 transactions
>before the starting date.  I provide the 'statement date' to the
>reconcile feature and it brings up every transaction entered, even the
>ones after the 'statement date'.
>This is not how a person would reconcile this.  We could concern
>ourselves with on the transactions that occur before the closing date
>'statement date'.
>Is there something I am missing ?
>Kevin
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Re: [GNC] Undo a reconciliation?

[Gyle McCollam]

Simon,
I should have mentioned that when you select reconciliation on an account the 
dialogue box has a button you can click on to "Enter Interest Payment...".  
From there you can enter your interest payment if you have forgotten to 
previously.  Also, if your financial institution allows you to export your 
transactions, you can import them into Gnucash.  You can then show matching 
transactions that you have entered during the month (checkbox at the bottom) 
and it will show any transactions that the institution has that you may have 
forgotten to enter.  You will be able to specify the expense/income account it 
should be posted to as well.  There is another checkbox to do the 
reconciliation once the import is finished if you want to do that or you can 
let the items be marks as cleared until you are ready to reconcile.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: Simon Roberts 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 1:53 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Undo a reconciliation?

Oh, thanks Gyle, that seems much simpler.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 11:40 AM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:
Yu could just add the interest payment and redo the reconciliation with the 
same date.  The items that were previously reconciled won't show up, but the 
added interest payment will.  Gnucash doesn't care how many times you reconcile 
to a date.  If you/she had noticed this before the reconciliation was 
completed, you could select postpone and redo it after entering the interest 
payment.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user 
mailto:gmail@gnucash.org>>
 on behalf of Simon Roberts 
mailto:si...@dancingcloudservices.com>>
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 1:05 PM
To: Gnucash Users mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: [GNC] Undo a reconciliation?

Hi all, question from my bookkeeper.

She performed a reconciliation, but had not added an interest payment to
the account. Because of that the reconciliation was wrong. For reasons that
went unnoticed, and likely cannot be reproduced, the process completed,
leaving the "y" in the appropriate column.

We managed to undo this by clicking on all the "y" entries and reverting
them. This was not a big deal since this particular account, this
particular time, had only two transactions and the interest payment (well,
that's three transactions :) But, if this happened with dozens of
transactions, reverting each one by hand would be horrible, and likely
error prone too. Is there a proper/better way to do this?

TIA,
Simon


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Re: [GNC] Scary moment

[Gyle McCollam]

No Gnucash doesn't recognize that someone else had made an entry, because as I 
understand it Gnucash opens in memory.  It is not a multiuser program.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David G. Pickett via gnucash-user 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 12:09 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scary moment


If open on multiple machines, does gnuCash notice save on one machine in open 
session on other machine, as many apps do when the local copy is updated ?  
Should it?
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Re: [GNC] Undo a reconciliation?

[Gyle McCollam]

Yu could just add the interest payment and redo the reconciliation with the 
same date.  The items that were previously reconciled won't show up, but the 
added interest payment will.  Gnucash doesn't care how many times you reconcile 
to a date.  If you/she had noticed this before the reconciliation was 
completed, you could select postpone and redo it after entering the interest 
payment.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Simon Roberts 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 1:05 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Undo a reconciliation?

Hi all, question from my bookkeeper.

She performed a reconciliation, but had not added an interest payment to
the account. Because of that the reconciliation was wrong. For reasons that
went unnoticed, and likely cannot be reproduced, the process completed,
leaving the "y" in the appropriate column.

We managed to undo this by clicking on all the "y" entries and reverting
them. This was not a big deal since this particular account, this
particular time, had only two transactions and the interest payment (well,
that's three transactions :) But, if this happened with dozens of
transactions, reverting each one by hand would be horrible, and likely
error prone too. Is there a proper/better way to do this?

TIA,
Simon


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Re: [GNC] Bank account reconciled, will this change screw things up?

[Gyle McCollam]

Since you are changing the expense account and not the reconciled bank account 
it will not mess up the reconciliation.



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 Original message 
From: David H 
Date: 12/30/22 4:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Dr. David Kirkby" 
Cc: GNU Cash User 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Bank account reconciled, will this change screw things up?

Hi Dave,

My limited world view (I don't use the business features, trading accounts,
imports, etc) tells me that I would update the transaction expense account
in a Split view from Payroll to Postage noting what the reconciliation
column values were prior to the change and also the Reconciled value in the
status bar for the register concerned.  If you change resets the recon flag
on the txn just re-run the reconciliation and make sure you include/check
the unreconciled txn.  You can run a Reconciliation as many times as you
like.  I occasionally do this when I'm in the same situation.

Cheers David H.


On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 06:44, Dr. David Kirkby <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:

> I paid for some postage for £12.54, but instead  of sticking the expense
> account as Postage, I put Payroll - well, then do both begin with P. Given
> I have reconciled the bank account, is it dangerous to change the account
> this transaction is debited to, from Payroll to Postage? I was thinking of
> unposting it, changing the expense account, then paying the invoice again.
> The amount of money is unchanged.
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Re: [GNC] Scary moment

[Gyle McCollam]

Simon,
I have been using Gnucash for 7 years now, but only for my personal finance 
needs.  I have my auto save set for 5 minutes and I never even notice when it 
happens.  I enter hundreds of transactions a month and my file is still 
measured in kbs.  So it depends on the size of the file.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Simon Roberts 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:50 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scary moment

New user (refugee from Intuit, finally) question on this topic:

Given that these days we tend to have vast disks, and they're often very
fast SSDs, I'm inclined to enable auto-save and set a relatively short
interval (perhaps as little as a minute?)

Are there issues with doing this that I've not thought of? If my file gets
to several years worth, will it get large enough that this actually takes a
non-trivial amount of time? Will it be unmanageable for other reasons?

Thanks for your wisdom,
Simon


On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 11:16 AM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 12/30/2022 1:02 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > I suppose there could have been a bug..
> >
> > GnuCash is supposed to prevent you from exiting if there is unsaved data.
>
> > However, I suppose there COULD be a way for you to shut down / close
> > GnuCash in a way that prevents it from popping up that dialog box.
> >
> > -derek
>
> Of course there is. Simply shut down the computer over riding an "there
> are apps still open" warnings.
>
>
> Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Feature request - prevent a transaction with todays date

[Gyle McCollam]

William,
Once you change the date in a register it will remain at that date until you 
change to another date.  If you have to enter old transactions in many 
accounts, you could change the system date and restart GNC.  That way "today's 
" date would be your system date.  No changes need to be made to GNC.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Dr. David Kirkby 
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 7:06 PM
To: William Prescott 
Cc: GnuCash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Feature request - prevent a transaction with todays date

On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 at 19:22, William Prescott 
wrote:

> Your post puzzles me.
>
> > I am trying to enter some transactions from March. Every now and again I
> > forget to change the date on something, so I get today’s date. Then I
> have
> > to go back to a backup file.
>
>
> Why? Can't you just edit the date on the transaction and change it.


I thought one wasn’t supposed to do that - at least in formula accounting.

>
>
> > It would be nice when entering historical
> > transactions if it was impossible to use todays date - one is forced to
> > change the date is something in preferences prevented todays date being
> > used.
>
> I must be missing something. Not being able to use today's day would make
> it impossible to enter transactions on the day they occurred. Are you
> asking for some switch that could be set before entering historical
> transactions? It seems like a cumbersome solution to a non-problem.


Yes, a switch for entering historical transactions.

>
> Will


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Re: [GNC] Accounting for a pre-paid electronic toll card

[Gyle McCollam]

I would treat it as an asset.  When putting money on the card you would debit 
the card and credit checking or credit card,  however you pay for it.  When 
traveling you would debit tolls or auto expense or similar account and credit 
the card.



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 Original message 
From: Tony Vanson 
Date: 10/18/22 11:54 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user 
Subject: [GNC] Accounting for a pre-paid electronic toll card

I'm hoping that someone on this list can aid my befuddled brain to get to
grips with my problem.
The tolling system here is not the automated ones I'm used to.
Here one needs to obtain an electronic card and, once done, must be charged
with a cash value prior to travelling and topped up with cash on a regular
basis.
My question is what category is this card and how do I treat additions and
subtractions from it?
I initially thought it might be treated as a credit card but the way it
operates it's obviously not.
Any advice would be much appreciated
*Tony Vanson*

*The older I get,*
*the better I was*
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Re: [GNC] Feature Request - Totals in Search Results

[Gyle McCollam]

I'm surprised that it doesn't already do that, but this is not the forum to 
request enhancements.  You should log into the bug reporting system, even 
though this is not a bug.  There you can request an enhancement under the 
severity section.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of M 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 10:50 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Feature Request - Totals in Search Results

First, thanks to all the great contributors to this project. Gnucash has
really matured during the 3+ years I've been using it. Thanks again.

Second, I have a quick feature request.  When conducting a search (Edit
-> Find...) it would be very useful if the results would populate with a
summary of the totals at the bottom of the screen (much like an account
register does).  I realize this information can be found by running a
transaction report, but it sure would be quick and easy if a summary
appeared in the Search Results transactions window.

Thanks again for everyone's work.

MIke
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash Tools>Online Banking Setup NOT working for me

[Gyle McCollam]

Shiv,
I also should have mentioned that I stopped using Aqbanking because too many of 
my financial institutions won't work with it.  I have found that going to the 
financial institutions' websites, which I do on a regular basis anyway, and 
downloading the transactions in the desired format and then importing into Gnu 
Cash works just as well with the added benefit of not having passwords stored 
in yet another piece of software.  For security reasons, I like having my 
passwords stored in Bitwarden only, my password manager.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Shiv Jhawar 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 8:28 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash Tools>Online Banking Setup NOT working for me

Hello,

Please help.

I am using for the first time:
GnuCash Version: 4.12
Build ID: 4.12+(2022-09-24)

I select: Tools>Online Banking Setup> Start Online Banking Setup> Start
AQBanking Setup> OFX-DirectConnect backend>Run>Bank Name>Select a bank
(matching banks NOT shown when I type in Bank of America)

I am not able to setup  Bank of America Checking account for Actions>Online
Actions>Get Transactions despite hours of efforts. "Not Responding" shows
up whenever I make any selection from the top menu.

I followed this link:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect

Bank Name: Bank of America
FID: 5959
ORG: HAN
Server URL: https://eftx.bankofamerica.com/eftxweb/access.ofx

User Name: Shiv Jhawar
User ID: sjhawar7
Client UID

The user has been successfully setup. You can now try to retrieve the list
of accounts...

Enter Password: I entered my password

Requesting Account List:
Screen pops up showing:

07:08:04 Sending request...
07:08:05 Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
07:08:05 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated: TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES-128-GCM:AEAD
07:08:05 Waiting for response...
07:08:05 Parsing response...
07:08:05 Status for signon request: *General error (Code 2000, severity
"ERROR")*
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note:
Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code
2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not
available.)
07:08:05 Status for account info request: General error (Code 2000,
severity "ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note:
Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code
2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not
available.)
07:08:05 Operation finished, you can now close this window.

Please *see attached screenshots.*
*I get the following error:*

*Error on executing job*
*Status:enqueued (1)*


Have a peaceful day!
Thanks -
Shiv
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash Tools>Online Banking Setup NOT working for me

[Gyle McCollam]

Don't know about BOA, but Citi Bank requires special setup and a different 
password than online banking password. Did you check with BOA?



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Shiv Jhawar 
Date: 10/11/22 8:29 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash Tools>Online Banking Setup NOT working for me

Hello,

Please help.

I am using for the first time:
GnuCash Version: 4.12
Build ID: 4.12+(2022-09-24)

I select: Tools>Online Banking Setup> Start Online Banking Setup> Start
AQBanking Setup> OFX-DirectConnect backend>Run>Bank Name>Select a bank
(matching banks NOT shown when I type in Bank of America)

I am not able to setup  Bank of America Checking account for Actions>Online
Actions>Get Transactions despite hours of efforts. "Not Responding" shows
up whenever I make any selection from the top menu.

I followed this link:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect

Bank Name: Bank of America
FID: 5959
ORG: HAN
Server URL: https://eftx.bankofamerica.com/eftxweb/access.ofx

User Name: Shiv Jhawar
User ID: sjhawar7
Client UID

The user has been successfully setup. You can now try to retrieve the list
of accounts...

Enter Password: I entered my password

Requesting Account List:
Screen pops up showing:

07:08:04 Sending request...
07:08:05 Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
07:08:05 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated: TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES-128-GCM:AEAD
07:08:05 Waiting for response...
07:08:05 Parsing response...
07:08:05 Status for signon request: *General error (Code 2000, severity
"ERROR")*
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note:
Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code
2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not
available.)
07:08:05 Status for account info request: General error (Code 2000,
severity "ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note:
Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code
2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not
available.)
07:08:05 Operation finished, you can now close this window.

Please *see attached screenshots.*
*I get the following error:*

*Error on executing job*
*Status:enqueued (1)*


Have a peaceful day!
Thanks -
Shiv
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Re: [GNC] Problem with missing balance in a parent account **FINAL POST**

[Gyle McCollam]

Michael,
On my system on a placeholder account, Windows 11 GnuCash 4.12, when you select 
*Action* the Reconcile selection is grayed out and you can't select it, so it 
is disabled as you said it should be.  The only way I can get reconcile to work 
is from the "Accounts" page.  There it brings up a blank page, if you didn't 
select "Include subaccounts" in the 1st box. If there are no subaccount 
transactions to reconcile even that box is grayed out and not selectable.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Fross, Michael 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 11:28 AM
To: Jay Ridgley 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Problem with missing balance in a parent account **FINAL 
POST**

Hi Jay.  You are correct.  A placeholder account as simply a "group" that
holds other accounts.  You can certainly reconcile accounts that are
"under" a placeholder account.

On a placeholder account, you can't get the reconcile button because you
can't open the transaction list.

However, if you use the menu item *Action|Reconcile* for a selected
placeholder account, it does open up a window with no transactions.  IMHO,
*Action|Reconcile* should be disabled if the selected account is a
placeholder.

Michael


On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Jay Ridgley 
wrote:

> On 10/10/22 08:20, john wrote:
> > Please remember to copy the list on all replies.
> >
> > If you want the Reconcile button (and, contrary to what Robin Chatterjay
> wrote, Actions>Reconcile) to be active for your account, make it not a
> placeholder.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> Thank you John,
>
> What is the purpose of a placeholder then, because on my system that was
> not changed for the account in question between 20.04 LTS and 22.04 LTS?
> I was under the impression that a placeholder was to allow an account to
> be a parent BUT not allow transactions to be posted directly.
>
>
> >
> >> On Oct 10, 2022, at 7:56 AM, Jay Ridgley 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Good morning,
> >>
> >> After some additional research I believe that the ONLY problem is the
> grayed out reconcile button.
> >>
> >> I was confused about the balance showing in the Parent Account,
> Placeholder. It shows in the Reconcile Popup window.
> >>
> >> The ACTUAL trouble is the grayed out Reconcile Button, that first
> appeared for me in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS after the upgrade.
> >>
> >> Since I have found the workaround below, it is a matter of
> inconvenience. However it would be preferable to have it as it was in
> earlier releases (not grayed out).
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Jay
> >>
> >> On 10/9/22 15:49, Jay Ridgley wrote:
> >>> Good afternoon,
> >>> Up until Ubuntu 22.04 The reconcile button was NOT grayed out for the
> type of account I am using (Parent account  and Placeholder). I am
> including an example of my account structure here:
> >>> Banking Account (Parent Account, Placeholder)
> >>>  Checkbook  (sub-account)(contains all checkbook transactions)
> >>>  Reserve (sub-account) (contains minimum account balance)
> >>>  Separate Purpose (sub account) (rental income & expenses)
> >>>  Checkbook Blind (sub-account) (amount held as a pad)
> >>> All transactions take place in the sub-accounts. For me it has worked
> successfully since I began using GnuCash (over 25 years ago).
> >>> I was advised of a workaround that allows me to continue using this
> arrangement until it can be fixed/changed to act as it did previously.
> >>> It is as follows:
> >>> Open Parent account
> >>> right click and choose reconcile from the drop down
> >>> Works just fine.
> >>> Would not be necessary if the Reconcile button was not grayed out.
> >>> My question boils down too: Is this change a bug or a "feature" and
> can it be put back the way it was?
> >>> Please advise how I should proceed.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jay
> >>> On 10/8/22 07:50, David T. wrote:
> >>>> That account register doesn't have any transactions in it, so it
> won't have any value either. Is it possible that in the past, you used a
> report to see the parent account balances, or even the Chart of Accounts?
> >>>>
> >>>> And if the account in the screen shot is a placeholder account, then
> you a) wouldn't be able to open the account by double clicking, b) be told
> on selecting Open that it was read 

Re: [GNC] Chase OFXdirect connect - another one bites the dust

[Gyle McCollam]

I stopped using aqbanking because only a handful of my financial intuitions 
seemed to work with aqbanking.  I also didn't like that my password information 
was stored in gnucash.  I know you can elect not to store, but that renders it 
less useful.  I have chosen to download from each of my institutions manually.  
I was sadden to see that Discover stopped offering QFX/OFX downloads.  
Hopefully, the others will not follow suit.  As long as they offer CSV, it 
should be OK.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Glenn Serre 
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 1:16 PM
To: Jean Laroche 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Chase OFXdirect connect - another one bites the dust

Good morning,

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 9:53 AM Jean Laroche  wrote:
>
> Any of you know whether something else is in the works to replace direct
> connect? Manual downloading can be a pain when you have many accounts in
> different institutions...

I have the same issue.  I had some success searching out the new
settings for Bank of the West, but if ofx direct connect is going
away, maybe a different strategy is needed.  I was thinking maybe a
tool to extract ofx/qfx downloads from the various bank websites? I
haven't found an existing one.

-- Glenn S.

>
> J.
>
> On 10/6/22 9:46 AM, David Reiser via gnucash-user wrote:
> > As of today, aqbanking reports that “ofx.chase.com<http://ofx.chase.com/>” 
> > is an unknown host. Banktivity reports that today is the start of Chase 
> > enforcing data access only through Open Banking APIs.
> >
> > OFX data format transaction downloads are still available from the Chase 
> > online web accounts — manual download followed by File>Import>Import 
> > OFX/QFX… in Gnucash.
> > --
> > Dave Reiser
> > dbrei...@icloud.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Register sort order

[Gyle McCollam]

Derek,
Thank you for the quick response.  I was obviously missing something and I feel 
like an idiot.
191774074 is larger than 092022 and would sort after!


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: Derek Atkins 
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 11:35 AM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Register sort order

Hi,

On Mon, September 26, 2022 11:25 am, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> I would like to control the order that items are displayed in the
> register.  I use the standard sort order as that has multiple sort
> criteria and the other options only show one.  However, the Standard Sort
> Order shows:
>
> Keep normal order: date posted [day], number, date entered [second] [a] ,
> description.
>
>
> In the attached JPEG there are 4 transactions.  They are all posted as
> 09/26/2022 and appear to be sorted on the 2nd criteria "number".  However,
> when I change the 4th transaction, which currently starts with a 19 while
> all the others start with 09, to 0191774074, it still is listed 4th.  You
> would think 01 would be before 09, but it doesn't change the order.

The "number" column is actually treated as a number!  So it is not sorted
lexically but sorted numerically.  That means 090 will come before 0190.

If you have a "number" with a non-numeric piece, it will only sort up to
that non-numeric piece, so 1a and 1b will sort "the same", as will d1 and
d2.

> Originally, I thought it would be better to have a sort order that was
> based on Date, Debit/Credit, but I can manipulate the standard order
> exactly how I want it to display if it actually sorted as it says it does.
>  Am I missing something that is causing the "number" criteria to not sort
> correctly.  If I remove the number completely it moves it to the 1st
> position, but if I insert a blank in the first character it has no effect.

Possibly.  See above.

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[GNC] Register sort order

[Gyle McCollam]

I would like to control the order that items are displayed in the register.  I 
use the standard sort order as that has multiple sort criteria and the other 
options only show one.  However, the Standard Sort Order shows:

Keep normal order: date posted [day], number, date entered [second] [a] , 
description.


In the attached JPEG there are 4 transactions.  They are all posted as 
09/26/2022 and appear to be sorted on the 2nd criteria "number".  However, when 
I change the 4th transaction, which currently starts with a 19 while all the 
others start with 09, to 0191774074, it still is listed 4th.  You would think 
01 would be before 09, but it doesn't change the order. Originally, I thought 
it would be better to have a sort order that was based on Date, Debit/Credit, 
but I can manipulate the standard order exactly how I want it to display if it 
actually sorted as it says it does.  Am I missing something that is causing the 
"number" criteria to not sort correctly.  If I remove the number completely it 
moves it to the 1st position, but if I insert a blank in the first character it 
has no effect.


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Re: [GNC] Pre-Payments into Liabilities

[Gyle McCollam]

Vance,  yes in any accounting system a negative asset,  in this case a 
receivable, is a liability. Leaving it as a negarive receivable where it will 
offset future invoices is OK.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Vance Turnewitsch via gnucash-user 
Date: 9/11/22 6:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Pre-Payments into Liabilities

Hello,
I use GnuCash for a small school. One of our parents paid their entire tuition 
amount at the beginning of the year. I have been fiddling with how to record 
this.

We bill monthly; therefore, for the payment that doesn't have a receivable yet, 
shouldn't it go into a liability account? Using the "Process Payment" dialog 
results in an accounts receivable with a negative balance. This seems odd to 
me, but it has been some time since I took accounting. In GnuCash's system, is 
an accounts receivable with a negative balance akin to a liability?

Thanks,
Vance

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Re: [GNC] Closing Gnucash

[Gyle McCollam]

gnucash reopens the same file that you last closed, unless you do a file open 
and select a different file.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Richard Barmann 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 3:39 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Closing Gnucash

How can I close Gnucash so I can reopen it with then correct up to date
file .

Richard Barmann

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Re: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

[Gyle McCollam]

Donna,
I use the same Gnucash, but Windows 11.  1st, let me say that Geoff info was 
helpful. There are several folders on my system for gnucash, but all the data 
and backups reside in gnucash in my documents folder.  There are other files 
associated with gnucash that it puts in other places that I would not put in my 
main data files location.  When you say you have files in 3 locations, which 
files are you referring to?

your questions:

  1.  gnucash saves all data files in one location by default.  This includes 
your main data file, as .gnucash.  The log files that Goeff mentioned 
.gnucash.datetime.log and the lock file he mentioned .gnucash.LCK.
  2.  As long as you didn't delete the .gnucash or any newer log files you 
should have been OK, but you probably deleted your current file and that is why 
you lost data.
  3.  In the "Edit/Preferences/General", there is an Auto Save time Interval 
that you can set for it to create backups and a "Retain log/backups" for the 
number of days to save these backups.  This way it can do the deletions for you 
automatically and you don't have to worry about what files you are deleting.
  4.  As Geoff said it will save the file to the same place it was retrieved 
from, unless you use "save as" and specify a different location.
  5.  Geoff is also correct here that gnucash saves backup so you don't lose 
data, but backuping up to another media is always a good idea.

Another helpful place to look is in "Help/Tutorial and  Concepts Guide".  In 
the search box type "backing up and recovering data" enter and it will take you 
to the page explaining how to restore and helpful information about how every 
thing works.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of gra...@shaw.ca 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:37 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

I am new to Gnucash and have a few questions regarding saving data.  I use
Windows 10 and Gnucash Version: 4.11 Build ID: 4.11+(2022-06-25)

1.  I would like to save everything in one folder named Gnucash.  I
think I will use the xml format.  Currently it seems there are files in
three different folders.
How do I make sure to save everything to one folder?

2.  Can I move everything I have (which is in 3 different folders) to a
folder named Gnucash without harm to the data I have entered.  (I previously
had entered data for 2021, then deleted a bunch of files and most of the
data disappeared.  The file types were text and gnucash financial data)

3.  How long do you need to keep the different files?
Are there certain files needed to keep the data in the Gnucash system?  I
have looked at the FAQ but still not clear.

4.  When you click the save button when entering transactions, how do
you know where it is being saved to?  I'd like it to be saved in Gnucash
folder, as indicated above.

5.  Back ups - I have read a lot about the back ups but still unsure
what to do.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks all
Donna

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Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

[Gyle McCollam]

Does gnucash open, just not your data file? If so,  once opened try file open 
and select your ???.gnucash file. I'm on windows 11 and gnucash 4.11 with no 
issues.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user 
Date: 9/10/22 12:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

I previously posted (some time ago) about an issue opening GnuCash following
upgrade to a newer version. I decided to wait to see if a newer version
would overcome my problem.



I am on a Windows 11 PC, and am able to use GnuCash 4.9. I have tried
updating to GnuCash 4.10 and 4.11, unfortunately when  I try to open the
gnucash.exe on anything above the 4.9 version then nothing happens (it
doesn't make any difference if I start as an Administrator or not). Windows
thinks for 2 seconds and then does nothing. I can see no GnuCash processes
in Task Manager. Once I revert to version 4.9 everything works as it should.



I have tried downloading from sourceforge and GitHub, in case there was an
issue. I have tried turning of my Firewall and antivirus, but same issue.



Did something drastic chance be between version 4.9 and 4.10 or is there
anything else I can to see if I can overcome this problem? It's getting to
be quite frustrating!



Richard

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Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades

[Gyle McCollam]

Sorry,  I should have mentioned I'm on 4.11



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Russell Gadd 
Date: 9/10/22 10:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Gnucash User Mail List 
Subject: [GNC] More UI downgrades

It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface
design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just
upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8.

In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the
number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the
field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other
software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to
delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement?

While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When
reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago)
to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made
reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves
down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the
space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the
response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I
took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now
after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour?

Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers.
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Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades

[Gyle McCollam]

Russ,
I don't get the grey box, but it won't swipe from right to left.  However, it 
does swipe from left to right, (huh?).  Hope this helps with that issue.

On your 2nd "gripe", that would be a nice enhancement or restoration if it used 
to work that way.  In case you are unaware, did you know that if you do CTRL 
"A" and space it will select all the transactions in that sub window, either 
"debit" or "credit" and then you can unselect those that didn't clear.  It may 
or may not be faster than the space bar causing it to move down automatically.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Russell Gadd 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:43 AM
To: Gnucash User Mail List 
Subject: [GNC] More UI downgrades

It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface
design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just
upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8.

In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the
number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the
field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other
software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to
delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement?

While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When
reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago)
to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made
reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves
down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the
space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the
response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I
took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now
after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour?

Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers.
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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

[Gyle McCollam]

Richard,
You may not have closed it correctly, however in that case you would have 
gotten a message that the file was locked with options on opening.  Gnucash 
opens the last file, so you may have lost some data.  To be sure you have the 
latest file use open/file and select the most recent ???.gnucash file not any 
of the log files or files with dates as part of the name.  Then try 
Help/Tutorial and  Concepts Guide.  In the search box type "log files" enter 
and it will take you to the page explaining how to restore.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Richard Barmann 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 9:35 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
entries up to date.

Richard Barmann

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Re: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

[Gyle McCollam]

That is an "L" not an "I" in the equation at the end of my email: "A=I (+/-) 
Eq" to get it to equal.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 3:15 AM
To: W. Neal Lewis 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

Neal,
Your welcome.  I see a few others have responded with similar thoughts and 
explanations.  I'm sorry I forgot to respond to all, so the list did not see my 
original email, but as I said other replied with similar answers, but in more 
detail.

Don't worry, I trust you will get there.  I'm sure there are engineering 
concepts that we accountants would not understand immediately.  The key to this 
is that at any point in time (Income -  expenses = Equity).  So if your income 
and expenses aren't zero (close Books at the end of the year), you have to add 
this expression to A=I (+/-) Eq to get it to equal.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: W. Neal Lewis 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:24 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

Gyle,

Thank you for your reply.

Let me think about it for a while.

It does not yet make sense to my Engineering brain.

Sorry to be so dense, but terms as well as numbers must balance for an equation 
to be correct.

Best regards,

Neal Lewis



On 8/28/22 6:28 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
At the end of the year I (income) - Ex (expenses) is your increase/decrease, 
depending on whether the number is positve or negative, to equity for the year 
and at any given point during the year it is your increase/decrease YTD equity 
figure.  So realistically, when you added +(I-Ex) and it should be minus Ex, 
you haven't really changed the equation A=L+Eq.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user 
<mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail@gnucash.org>
 on behalf of W. Neal Lewis 
<mailto:wnle...@southwind.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:38 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

I will agree that by mathematical logic, Assets-(Liabilities)=Equity. ∴
Assets+(Liabilites)-(Liabilities)=Equity+Liability, or stated more
simply, A=Eq+L. I have added Liability to both sides ∴ both sides remain
equal.

However, although (A+L)=Eq, (A+L)≠Eq+(I+Ex). I have added a term to the
right side that is most decidedly not on the left ∴ they cannot be equal.

∴ A and L must be terms that include other factors.

Not good at accounting, I will ask what those other factors are.

I want to use GnuCash but I am having trouble getting my mind to accept
an equation that is not correct unless terms are redefined.

Please help me with my (obviously) incorrect understandings.

Thank you,

Neal Lewis
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Re: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

[Gyle McCollam]

Neal,
Your welcome.  I see a few others have responded with similar thoughts and 
explanations.  I'm sorry I forgot to respond to all, so the list did not see my 
original email, but as I said other replied with similar answers, but in more 
detail.

Don't worry, I trust you will get there.  I'm sure there are engineering 
concepts that we accountants would not understand immediately.  The key to this 
is that at any point in time (Income -  expenses = Equity).  So if your income 
and expenses aren't zero (close Books at the end of the year), you have to add 
this expression to A=I (+/-) Eq to get it to equal.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: W. Neal Lewis 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:24 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

Gyle,

Thank you for your reply.

Let me think about it for a while.

It does not yet make sense to my Engineering brain.

Sorry to be so dense, but terms as well as numbers must balance for an equation 
to be correct.

Best regards,

Neal Lewis



On 8/28/22 6:28 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
At the end of the year I (income) - Ex (expenses) is your increase/decrease, 
depending on whether the number is positve or negative, to equity for the year 
and at any given point during the year it is your increase/decrease YTD equity 
figure.  So realistically, when you added +(I-Ex) and it should be minus Ex, 
you haven't really changed the equation A=L+Eq.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user 
<mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail@gnucash.org>
 on behalf of W. Neal Lewis 
<mailto:wnle...@southwind.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:38 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

I will agree that by mathematical logic, Assets-(Liabilities)=Equity. ∴
Assets+(Liabilites)-(Liabilities)=Equity+Liability, or stated more
simply, A=Eq+L. I have added Liability to both sides ∴ both sides remain
equal.

However, although (A+L)=Eq, (A+L)≠Eq+(I+Ex). I have added a term to the
right side that is most decidedly not on the left ∴ they cannot be equal.

∴ A and L must be terms that include other factors.

Not good at accounting, I will ask what those other factors are.

I want to use GnuCash but I am having trouble getting my mind to accept
an equation that is not correct unless terms are redefined.

Please help me with my (obviously) incorrect understandings.

Thank you,

Neal Lewis
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Re: [GNC] Copy/Paste Transaction Issue

[Gyle McCollam]

Liz,
Just wanted to mention that if you post to cash ledger and meant to post to a 
card, instead of cutting and pasting, in the cash ledger, you could click on 
the transaction and then the split icon.  Then click on the line for the cash 
ledger.  You will then have the down arrow for the account selection.  You can 
then select the appropriate card account and it will move the transaction and 
your debits and credits will be correct.  This may sound more involved, but it 
is a lot easier than it sounds and you don't have to move between accounts when 
cutting and pasting.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Liz Dodd 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 11:42 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Copy/Paste Transaction Issue

On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 11:12:29 -0500
Jack Slater  wrote:

> When I tried to Copy a transaction from an account named Checking and
> Paste to the same account at a later date, the debit amount in the
> original Withdrawal column did not appear in the pasted transaction
> but the credit amount showed up in the Deposit column??
>
> I have screen captures of both if needed.
>
> I've copy/pasted transactions before and never noticed the problem.
>
> Jack in Illinois


I have seen this happen when trying to move a transaction to another
account, for example when I entered the transaction in the cash ledger
and had really paid by card. When pasted into the card account, I would
find a deposit instead of a withdrawal.
I haven't ever taken the time to report and discuss the problem, but
learned that jumping to the Expense account involved and moving the
transaction from there was more reliable.
I have vague memories that it wasn't always like this, but I've been on
Gnucash since about V1.6 and I didn't pay attention to when this
started.
I haven't even tried it more recently to see if I can still reproduce
the problem.

Summary: I also think copy and paste of a transaction has problems.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Order of accounts, auto numbering transactions.

[Gyle McCollam]

Sorry Stan, I never received your question to my response.  I have version 
4.11.  I only saw David's response about version 2.6.19 not working the same.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Stan Brown 
Date: 8/9/22 9:54 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: David Carlson 
Cc: Gyle McCollam , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Order of accounts, auto numbering transactions.

Actually there's a preference setting so that I need type only a few
characters of the account name, ignoring higher levels.

I believe it's associated with Register Defaults » Only display leaf
account names.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2022-08-09 15:48, David Carlson wrote:
> Version 2.6.19 only works the old way where you need to type a few
> characters of each level starting at the top.  You need at least 3.x to
> get the better autofill in the account field.
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 5:36 PM Stan Brown  <mailto:the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 11:31 AM UTC -800, Stan Brown wrote:> This
> may be different in more recent versions, but I've found that
> > the drop-down accounts list when I'm entering a transaction is still
> > alphabetical and does not follow [i.e. not in the order of] account
> > codes. However, when I type the first few letters of the desired
> > account name, GC auto-fills the full name.
> On 2022-08-09 13:04, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> > Stan,
> > Just wanted to let you know that you don't even have to type the first
> > few letters, any part of the account name will do, GNC will find the
> > account name.
>
> Not for me. I have an account called "AP Bank of America Visa", and no
> other accounts with "America" in their names. When entering a
> transaction, nothing happens if I type America in the account field,
> until I press Tab. At that point the popup asks me if I want to create
> the account America.
>
> I thought maybe you might have been talking about accounts in the
> Accounts tab. But there again, initial characters jump to the account,
> but typing America does nothing.
>
> I have GC 2.6.19. Which version do you have?
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com <https://BrownMath.com>
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Re: [GNC] Order of accounts, auto numbering transactions.

[Gyle McCollam]

Stan,
Just wanted to let you know that you don't even have to type the first few 
letters, any part of the account name will do, GNC will find the account name.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Stan Brown 
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 2:31 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Order of accounts, auto numbering transactions.

On 2022-08-09 00:55, John C Simpson via gnucash-user wrote:

> How do I set up my accounts in an order that I prefer rather than 
> alphabetical?

Use the Account Codes.  All reports (at least all the ones I use) will
be sorted by Account Code.

A recommendation I adopted from this list was to use four digit numbers.

The first digit is 1/2/3/4/5 for
Assets/Liabilities/Equities/Income/Expenses.

The second, third, and fourth digits allow for three levels of accounts,
which I think is plenty, but there's nothing stopping you from having
two levels or four levels or even just one level. (Reports seem to
default to showing no more than three levels, so you'd need to change
that in Edit » Report Options.)

This may be different in more recent versions, but I've found that the
drop-down accounts list when I'm entering a transaction is still
alphabetical and does not follow account codes. However, when I type the
first few letters of the desired account name, GC auto-fills the full
name. You can also type the Account Code and GC will convert it to
account name as soon as you press Tab or Enter.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
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Re: [GNC] Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads

[Gyle McCollam]

Tom,
I use 6 different banks and many more credit cards and they all offer downloads 
in CSV or QFX.  As another user pointed out and I responded to flywire, in 
regards to Citi Bank, you won't find that option in the statements part of 
their website.  If you go to the transaction page on many websites, they give 
you the ability to look at transactions for different periods and from there 
you can select to download.  When you ask to download it will ask you for the 
format you wish to download and in the case of Citi Bank you will see the 
options in the attached photo which was snipped directly from the website.  I 
prefer to use online banking, but that works with less banks than I would like. 
 I found that even when I asked different bank personnel if a QFX download was 
available they more than half the time told me it wasn't available when it 
actually was available.  One of these was Discover and I now download the 
transaction every month without problems.  I wonder if your current bank has 
the ability to download transactions, not statements?


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Tom Browder 
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 1:10 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads

On another thread I asked for any third-party resources for converting pdf
bank statements to another format. One in particular works good enough for
my current bank, Hancock-Whitney. The resource was suggested by Christopher
Lam.

To continue in a more direct way to fix my problem, I would appreciate
users who can recommend specific US banks they know that provide OFX or CSV
downloads for all personal accounts including checking, savings, and credit
cards. There is a page on the GnuCash Wiki for OFX info:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX

If your bank is NOT listed, please add it. If your bank IS listed, please
make sure the informtion is correct. It would also help to add banks known
NOT to have either capability.

I'm thinking of adding a new Wiki page entitled "Financial firms and
OFX-CSV capability" or something like that. Suggestions welcome.

Best regards,

-Tom
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Re: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and report forms

[Gyle McCollam]

Under "Edit/Preferences/Accounts/Labels" if you check the box you will get 
standard accounting labels with Debits and Credits.  This may be less confusing 
to you than Increase and Decrease.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Peter S. Shenkin 
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 5:13 PM
To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Confusing and inconsistent headers in transaction entry and 
report forms

Hi, I'm using Gnucash 4.11 on MacOS 11.6.8.

There are two images attached, labeled Transaction entry and Transaction
report. They are two different views of the same transaction, to a non
profit that I am doing the books for.

The transaction involves a deposit to our checking account from Wepay. It's
a donation, which we account for under Revenue:Donations, which increases
with a Credit, and the bank account will increase with a Debit, so this
should be properly balanced.

However, from the Transaction-entry screen shot, where the column labels
are Increase and Decrease, I have to enter the Donation as a Decrease in
order to make the Donation record increase. This is bizarre, is it not?

You can see in the same image that the checking balance goes up. so it
seems to be properly recorded as a debit; in addition, though not shown,
the sum of Donations does goes up, which seems contrary to having to enter
it as a Decrease.

Now look at the second screenshot, the Transaction-report view for this
transaction. What is especially strange here is that the labels of the
Debit and Credit columns are exactly reversed. It says that the Checking
side of the transaction is a Credit and the Donation side is a Debit, which
is exactly backwards.

Any insight, including any aspect due to my own foolishness and/or
inexperience, would be appreciated.

-P.
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Re: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only

[Gyle McCollam]

Stephen,
He could have one account, but he could also have accounts for Hospital, 
Doctors, Dentists, Prescription, Medical Travel, etc.  These could all be under 
a parent account, Medical, but everyone is different and they may not be.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Stephen M. Butler 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 4:10 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only

On 7/27/22 12:15, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
>
> I want add up all my medical expenses from Jan. 1, 2022 up to today.
> How do I do that?
> I tried several different reports and all they gave me was the account
> balance as of today. I just want what was spent so far for this year.
> And before you ask I set the date range from 1/1/2022 to "today" in
> the drop down boxes.
>
> Thanks!
>

I presume you have an expense account just for the medical expenses?  If
not, why not?

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Re: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only

[Gyle McCollam]

Jack,
That is the advantage of "Tools/Close Book".  If you do that each year, the 
account balances are the YTD totals.  If you have grouped all your medical 
expenses under a parent account that will be the grand total as well.  This way 
you don't even need a report.  It's probably to late now, because if you did 
close your books each year, I guess you wouldn't even be asking this question.

Hopefully, someone that uses reports will be able to help you with the current 
situation.  Or you could close your books "as of" 12/31/2021 and you will then 
have the totals you are looking for.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Jack Frillman via gnucash-user 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:15 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only


I want add up all my medical expenses from Jan. 1, 2022 up to today.
How do I do that?
I tried several different reports and all they gave me was the account
balance as of today. I just want what was spent so far for this year.
And before you ask I set the date range from 1/1/2022 to "today" in the
drop down boxes.

Thanks!

--
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- Anonymous

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Re: [GNC] Lost data Fie

[Gyle McCollam]

Go to "Help", Tutorial and Concepts guide and type in log file.  It gives you a 
detailed explanation of how to restore your data file by opening the last save 
file and using the log file to update any changes.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Frank Ashby 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 7:19 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Lost data Fie

I was attempting to enter a spit transaction last evening and somehow lost the 
genre data file.  Any recommendations??
Kindest Regards,

Frank H. Ashby,  Jr.

Drilling Engineering and Business Development Advisor
Reprise Ventures, LP

Cell: +1 281-723-4443
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Re: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)

[Gyle McCollam]

Tracy,
I'm on 4.11 on Windows 11 so I may have different options.  Mine is under 
Edit/Preferences/Windows/Window Geometry and has a check box for "save window 
size and position".  It works fine.  However, if the icon to start Gnucash has 
the properties set for anything other than  "Normal Window", they override the 
setting in Gnucash.  If it is set to "Normal Window" then Gnucash works the way 
you would like.  So my suggestion is to check how your Gnucash Icon is set.  
Hope that helps.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Tracy 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:10 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)

Ubuntu 22.04
Gnucash 4.8

In the Edit > Settings dialog, under "Window" there is an option to save
the current window size and position. However, this does not appear to
be working fully - when I position GnuCash on the screen, then close it,
then reopen it, it opens with the correct size, but not in the correct
position - instead of where I left it, it opens with the upper left
corner of the GnuCash window positioned at the upper left corner of the
desktop (instead of having the GnuCash window positioned 2/3 of the way
to the right on the desktop, as it was when I closed it).

I have looked into the Wiki and found that the window position and size
is stored in:

$HOME/.local/share/gnucash/books/GnuTest.gnucash.gcm

Closing GnuCash and editing this file (specifically changing the
WindowPosition property in the [Window 1] section) does not change the
startup position of the GnuCash window.

Is there another place I should be looking for this, or am I completely
confused and there is another setting in the Settings window that I
should be looking at, or?

Note that this was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash 3. so it is possible that there are files or
settings that were left behind by the upgrade process that are
interfering (if so, and someone can point me to a resource for cleaning
up those settings, I would be happy to poke at it...)

Thanks in advance for any information or assistance on this.
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Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

[Gyle McCollam]

Adrien, you didn't say that you got rid of the multi-line note.  You can't just 
remove the note column from the display,  you have to delete the note or at 
least reduce to one line



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Adrien Monteleone 
Date: 7/3/22 12:20 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

Indeed, it is the multi-line note that causes it. But I can't get it to
go away no matter what I collapse and expand.

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/3/22 9:24 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> Seems, I don't have the OP in my email thread, but David Cousens is correct.  
> I added the notes filed to my accounts tab display, entered a note that was 
> more than one line and the extra spacing appeared.  Even when I removed the 
> note and/or the note field from the account display, the extra spacing was 
> still there.  It was not until I collapsed the account display and then 
> expanded it again did the extra spacing go away.


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Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

[Gyle McCollam]

Seems, I don't have the OP in my email thread, but David Cousens is correct.  I 
added the notes filed to my accounts tab display, entered a note that was more 
than one line and the extra spacing appeared.  Even when I removed the note 
and/or the note field from the account display, the extra spacing was still 
there.  It was not until I collapsed the account display and then expanded it 
again did the extra spacing go away.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of davidcousen...@gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 6:17 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

My only experience of this in 4.11 on Linux mint was when I had the Notes field
displayed and had Notes with more than one line associated with an account.
Turning the display of the Note column off left the extra spaces unless I
collapsed and expanded the account tree.


On Sun, 2022-07-03 at 09:05 +, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> I am using 4.11 on windows 11, but not dark theme, and I don't have this issue
> either.
>
> Gyle
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Adrien Monteleone 
> Date: 7/3/22 1:00 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11
>
> Weird. Definitely not on Mac BigSur as far as I can tell.
>
> Likely something OS specific.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 6/30/22 7:00 PM, dull...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I think since 4.11 (am using Windows 11 and a dark theme), I notice very odd
> > random line spacing in Account list window (the default window when I open
> > Gnucash)
> >
> >
> >
> > I see the lines for each sub-accounts are not evenly distributed - spacing
> > seems completely random (some have space above and below, others do not)
> >
> >
> >
> > I have attached a partial screenshot showing this uneven spacing for the
> > subaccounts  (if the mailing list supports attachments?)
>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash Windows Bundle 4.11-1 Released

[Gyle McCollam]

Abe,
My first suggestion is to post this on gnucash-user@gnucash.org, which I've ccd 
this to, so that should be taken care of.  I also know that, in the past, I 
have seen references to "hijacked" discussions, which when you say, "I would 
like to take this in a different direction" means essentially the same thing.  
It would be best to start an entirely new email thread for that purpose.  
Please take his the way it is intended, as friendly advise and nothing more.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: Abe Sternberg 
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2022 9:25 AM
To: Fross, Michael 
Cc: Gyle McCollam ; gnucash-devel 
; gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org 
; Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash Windows Bundle 4.11-1 Released

I'd like to take this discussion in a slightly different direction if permitted.

I have updated my Windows version without a problem however, I also run 
GnuCash, v 4.8, on my Chromebook, for travel, and can't figure out how to 
upgrade
it to version 4.11.  I used Flathub for the original install.

Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas?

Much appreciated,
Abe

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 7:28 PM Fross, Michael 
mailto:mich...@fross.org>> wrote:
Looks good on this end John.  Thank you very much!

Michael

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 4:40 PM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:

> John, Thanks to you and all involved with keeping this programing going.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@live.com><mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>>
>email
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user 
> mailto:gmail@gnucash.org>>
>  on
> behalf of John Ralls mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>
> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 4:33 PM
> To: 
> gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org> 
> mailto:gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org>
> >
> Cc: gnucash-devel 
> mailto:gnucash-de...@gnucash.org>>; Gnucash Users <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
> Subject: [GNC] GnuCash Windows Bundle 4.11-1 Released
>
> This fixes https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798559, Online
> Actions missing from menus.
>
> It restores File>Import>MT940 and other SWIFT formats, Actions>Online
> Actions, and Tools>Online Banking Setup.
>
> 63d98c5873e58191cbac5c6ba4f269528c67911d0d63e2dd114e2f1c12c328a7
> gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
>
> Downloads:
> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/releases/gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
>
> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.11/gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
>
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.11/gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

[Gyle McCollam]

I am using 4.11 on windows 11, but not dark theme, and I don't have this issue 
either.

Gyle



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Adrien Monteleone 
Date: 7/3/22 1:00 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

Weird. Definitely not on Mac BigSur as far as I can tell.

Likely something OS specific.

Regards,
Adrien

On 6/30/22 7:00 PM, dull...@gmail.com wrote:
> I think since 4.11 (am using Windows 11 and a dark theme), I notice very odd
> random line spacing in Account list window (the default window when I open
> Gnucash)
>
>
>
> I see the lines for each sub-accounts are not evenly distributed - spacing
> seems completely random (some have space above and below, others do not)
>
>
>
> I have attached a partial screenshot showing this uneven spacing for the
> subaccounts  (if the mailing list supports attachments?)


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash Windows Bundle 4.11-1 Released

[Gyle McCollam]

John, Thanks to you and all involved with keeping this programing going.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of John Ralls 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 4:33 PM
To: gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org 
Cc: gnucash-devel ; Gnucash Users 

Subject: [GNC] GnuCash Windows Bundle 4.11-1 Released

This fixes https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798559, Online Actions 
missing from menus.

It restores File>Import>MT940 and other SWIFT formats, Actions>Online Actions, 
and Tools>Online Banking Setup.

63d98c5873e58191cbac5c6ba4f269528c67911d0d63e2dd114e2f1c12c328a7  
gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe

Downloads:
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/releases/gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.11/gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.11/gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] 4.11 missing online banking and AqBanking in Windows

[Gyle McCollam]

Thanks John



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: john 
Date: 7/2/22 12:09 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] 4.11 missing online banking and AqBanking in Windows

Because it hasn't been fixed. As I suspected the problem is that the GnuCash 
AQBanking module, libgncmod-aqbanking.dll, is failing to load. It loads 
correctly when run in a development shell som I'm pretty sure that something is 
missing from the installation bundle, but I haven't yet figured out what it is.

When I have a working installer I'll post an announcement to gnucash-announce, 
copying gnucash-user and gnucash-devel with the sha256 and download URIs.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 2, 2022, at 7:01 AM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> I am correct in thinking that there will be a general announcement when this 
> has been fixed.  I unfortunately, submitted a duplicate bug on this and have 
> received a couple of emails, but nothing stating this has been fixed.  In the 
> meantime, I had to revert back to 4.10 as online banking, even though I have 
> been using it for less than a year, has been extremely helpful and speeds up 
> reconciliation tremendously.
>
> I will even put up with Gnucash crashing on the occasion where I didn't save 
> before closing.  Can't wait to get back to 4.11 where this is fixed.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
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[GNC] 4.11 missing online banking and AqBanking in Windows

[Gyle McCollam]

I am correct in thinking that there will be a general announcement when this 
has been fixed.  I unfortunately, submitted a duplicate bug on this and have 
received a couple of emails, but nothing stating this has been fixed.  In the 
meantime, I had to revert back to 4.10 as online banking, even though I have 
been using it for less than a year, has been extremely helpful and speeds up 
reconciliation tremendously.

I will even put up with Gnucash crashing on the occasion where I didn't save 
before closing.  Can't wait to get back to 4.11 where this is fixed.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] Description list

[Gyle McCollam]

Steve, I should have mentioned that if you are in a particular register, it 
will only look in that register.  If you are in the accounts (CoA) it will find 
it in any register.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Steve Elstad 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:05 PM
To: 'Glenn Fowler' 
Cc: 'GnuCash users group' 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Description list

Thanks for that.  Is there a way to produce a list of all those descriptions 
that I have used before?  Autocomplete is great if I am close to spelling the 
description I want.  Otherwise I am just guessing and would like to reuse a 
previously used description.



Steve



From: Glenn Fowler
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 4:38 PM
To: Steve Elstad 
Cc: GnuCash users group 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Description list



Hi Steve,



Your register *is* your list. Auto-complete just matches previous entries as 
type.



On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 7:21 PM Steve Elstad mailto:st...@ngc7331.com> > wrote:

Hi, is there a way to create a list of all the items I have used in the
Description field?  The autocompletion works if I remember the description
correctly.  Would like to see a list for those rarely used ones.



In the Transfer field there is a pull down list of accounts.



Thanks,



Steve

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Re: [GNC] Description list

[Gyle McCollam]

Steve,
You could use Edit/Find.  Then select Description-Contains-(type in part of the 
description, can be just one letter) and if you check Match Case it will find 
any descriptions that match.  It will show the same description multiple times 
however.  Obviously, if it is a seldom used description it won't show up that 
often.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Steve Elstad 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:05 PM
To: 'Glenn Fowler' 
Cc: 'GnuCash users group' 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Description list

Thanks for that.  Is there a way to produce a list of all those descriptions 
that I have used before?  Autocomplete is great if I am close to spelling the 
description I want.  Otherwise I am just guessing and would like to reuse a 
previously used description.



Steve



From: Glenn Fowler
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 4:38 PM
To: Steve Elstad 
Cc: GnuCash users group 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Description list



Hi Steve,



Your register *is* your list. Auto-complete just matches previous entries as 
type.



On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 7:21 PM Steve Elstad mailto:st...@ngc7331.com> > wrote:

Hi, is there a way to create a list of all the items I have used in the
Description field?  The autocompletion works if I remember the description
correctly.  Would like to see a list for those rarely used ones.



In the Transfer field there is a pull down list of accounts.



Thanks,



Steve

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Re: [GNC] Split ownership

[Gyle McCollam]

I would have recorded the golf cart as an asset, for 1/2 the total price.  Then 
over the years, I would have depreciated the golf cart based on it's useful 
life.  I assume this wasn't done.  Anyway, at this time when it was sold, I 
would credit the golf cart asset for the amount of the cash and debit wherever 
you put the money, cash, bank account, whatever.  The difference of what you 
paid and what you received, I would credit the golf cart and debit whatever 
account you expense you golf cost to.  Formal accounting in a business would be 
different.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Fred Tydeman 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 7:01 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Split ownership

A friend and I bought a golf cart, each paying 1/2 of the price.
Some years later, we sold that golf cart (for less than we paid, splitting
what we got).
How should all of that be recorded?
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release: Menu changes

[Gyle McCollam]

Thank you!


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of John Ralls 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 5:01 PM
To: David H 
Cc: Gyle McCollam ; Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release: Menu changes

I've bisected it using the nightly builds to May 21, on which date I ran build 
manually. The scheduled build at 03:28 has the online banking menu items, the 
one I ran at 20:25 doesn't.

There's only one commit in between, 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/e38b1aa0ae78787c287d239f9907f4a6532a5c85,
 and it touches nothing at all associated with AQBanking, so I imagine that I 
ran an MSYS2 update on the server that day. `aqbanking-cli versions` works, so 
there's something going wrong in the code that checks for AQBanking being 
installed. It may take a little while to figure out exactly what that is.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jun 27, 2022, at 1:51 PM, David H  wrote:
>
> Ah yes, it seems to be missing from the Windows version only as it displays
> ok on the MacOS and Linux Flatpak versions.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 05:44, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
>> "Note
>> This is shown only if WITH_AQBANKING was set while building GnuCash.
>>
>> Important
>> The menu entries will be enabled by the successful completion of Tools →
>> Online Banking Setup... ."
>>
>> I don't build Gnucash, I download the windows version and I don't see an
>> option WITH_AQBANKING and there is no Tools/Online Banking Setup now either.
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
>> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email
>>
>> 
>> From: gnucash-user  on
>> behalf of Frank H. Ellenberger 
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 3:32 PM
>> To: Gnucash Users 
>> Subject: [GNC] Fwd: GnuCash 4.11 Release: Menu changes
>>
>> Forgot to cc the list …
>>
>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>> Betreff: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release: Menu changes
>> Datum: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 21:31:16 +0200
>> Von: Frank H. Ellenberger 
>> An: Gyle McCollam 
>>
>> I have it.
>>
>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/gui-acct-tree.html#AccTree-ActionsMenu
>> says:
>>
>> Note
>> This is shown only if WITH_AQBANKING was set while building GnuCash.
>>
>> Important
>> The menu entries will be enabled by the successful completion of Tools →
>> Online Banking Setup... .
>>
>> Note
>> Not all options are for all institutions available.
>>
>> HTH
>> Frank
>>
>> Am 27.06.22 um 19:33 schrieb Gyle McCollam:
>>> As noted there are changes.  Can anyone tell me where the Online
>> selections that used to be under Actions went.  I've looked through the
>> menus and I can't find it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You,

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Re: [GNC] Duplicate Transactions

[Gyle McCollam]

Find it by using Edit/Find.  You can type the description, value, etc.  You 
probably had a bad date and it is in some other year or month.  When you find 
it, you can edit the date or delete if you reentered it.  Find opens the 
transaction in a new tab, but your changes wil post to the original account as 
well.

You can enter a new transaction by typing the info into a blank line.  Gnucash 
will offer suggestions as you type.  For instance, if you have entered a 
transaction for that vendor before, it will show the information here and you 
can accept or change the account and amount, etc.  Use the tab key to advance 
fields as the enter key will accept the transaction and go to the next line to 
enter a new transaction.



Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Jesse MacDougall 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 4:43 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Duplicate Transactions

Hi there, I am doing some bookkeeping and I went to add two new
transactions by right clicking a current transaction and selecting
duplicate traction.

I changed the date and added amount but do not see the transactions in the
account GL.  However, the amounts did get posted as I see the total dollar
amount has changed.


Question:
1) how do I find the two transactions so I can delete them?

2) Is there a better way to make a new transaction in an account GL
instead of duplicating a transaction and changing the data?

Merci,



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Re: [GNC] Fwd: GnuCash 4.11 Release: Menu changes

[Gyle McCollam]

"Note
This is shown only if WITH_AQBANKING was set while building GnuCash.

Important
The menu entries will be enabled by the successful completion of Tools →
Online Banking Setup... ."

I don't build Gnucash, I download the windows version and I don't see an option 
WITH_AQBANKING and there is no Tools/Online Banking Setup now either.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Frank H. Ellenberger 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 3:32 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Fwd: GnuCash 4.11 Release: Menu changes

Forgot to cc the list …

 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release: Menu changes
Datum: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 21:31:16 +0200
Von: Frank H. Ellenberger 
An: Gyle McCollam 

I have it.
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/gui-acct-tree.html#AccTree-ActionsMenu
says:

Note
This is shown only if WITH_AQBANKING was set while building GnuCash.

Important
The menu entries will be enabled by the successful completion of Tools →
Online Banking Setup... .

Note
Not all options are for all institutions available.

HTH
Frank

Am 27.06.22 um 19:33 schrieb Gyle McCollam:
> As noted there are changes.  Can anyone tell me where the Online selections 
> that used to be under Actions went.  I've looked through the menus and I 
> can't find it.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
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Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account

[Gyle McCollam]

David,
Further info.  Here is a url directly to the Bugzilla website for Gnucash: 
https://bugs.gnucash.org.   You need to be registered, then you can log in.  
Once you log in the link is the 3rd of 5 on the left.  You will find 
"enhancements" under the "severity" section.  Don't file as a bug, because it 
is not considered that and it will only complicate things.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of davidvernonl...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 2:10 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account

Hi Michael or Penny Novack, you suggest "Have you tried creating an account
of type income with a name like "credit note totals"? It would, of course
tend to have a debit balance (negative with respect to other income
accounts."

I did think of that and it would work, but the accounts I wish to post to
from the credit note are regular expense accounts like "repairs and
maintenance" which members have paid for and claiming re-imbursement, which
already exist as an expense account, so I would have to double up on the
same account as an income account for repairs and maintenance for example.
What's more, in Profit and Loss Reports the repairs and maintenance account
would appear in 2 places, one as an expense and add into the total expenses,
and one as a negative income, which would deduct from total income, which is
not where it belongs.

I shall ask for an enhancement to treat this correctly using the procedure
Gyle McCollam explained.

David



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Reports - Income Statement (Michael or Penny Novack)
   2. Re:  Credit note posting to an expense account
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   3. Re:  GnuCash 4.11 Release (Kalpesh Patel)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:14:38 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Reports - Income Statement
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 6/26/2022 10:20 PM, nev.je...@gmail.com wrote:
> In Reports/Income & Expenses/Income Statements - Is it possible for
> any account which has $0 transactions for the year to be eliminated or
> just not printed?
>
> Thanks
>
> Neville Brown
>
And while you are at it (selecting zero balance accounts not to show) look
at ALL of your report options. Actually, I am slightly surprised that you
were not already going onto edit => report options because THIS report is
always for between a range of dates so you would always be wanting to
specify "start date" and "stop date".

However, let me suggest something else. This is a report where you MIGHT
want to first run with zero balances showing, look at the report to see if
there were any UNEXPECTED zeroes, then rerun with zero balances suppressed
<< just change the option >> This is for roughly the same reason that I ran
the reports "raw" and then hand editing after exporting. In other words,
assuming not some kind of error (the unexpected zero) I'd be leaving that
one showing with an annotation explaining why << like "the vendor who did
the printing/postage for our annual meeting announcement hasn't sent an
invoice yet" >>

In other words, you want to see an UNEXPECTED zero amount as that is
something you will want to look into to find out why.

Michael D Novack




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:25:09 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed


> n 6/26/22 11:17 AM, davidvernonl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi Adrien,
>> In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account
>> at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or
>> liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I
>> select

This MIGHT b

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release

[Gyle McCollam]

As noted there are changes.  Can anyone tell me where the Online selections 
that used to be under Actions went.  I've looked through the menus and I can't 
find it.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Kalpesh Patel 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:47 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release

There are definite noticeable changes to menus on 4.11 of GNC - number of
items in the menu list and where they are found in the list -- as well.



It is throwing me off from previous click through flows that were second in
nature . I am observing these changes on Windows 10.



> 

> From: gnucash-user mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail@gnucash.org> > on behalf of
John Ralls mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us> >

> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 5:39 PM

> To: gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org
<mailto:gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org>
mailto:gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org> >

> Cc: gnucash-devel mailto:gnucash-de...@gnucash.org> >; Gnucash Users
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >

> Subject: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release

>

> The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.11, the twelfth release
in the stable 4.x series

> Between 4.10 and 4.11, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

>

>Bug 797163 - qof_book_get_option segfaults when retrieving a non-leaf
frame

>Bug 798053 - Accounts renumeration (renumbering)

>Bug 798471 - Can't see or select Income or Expense accounts in Income
Tax Information GUI

>Bug 798483 - GnuCash Crashing With SIGSEGV During QFX Import
Transaction Matching

>Bug 798491 - MT940 of day 28.02.2022 ends in transactiondate 01.01.1970

>Bug 798493 - Invoice Report Quantity & Unit Price fields have limited
decimal precision on printed invoices

>Bug 798496 - gncEntry Quantity and Discount are misusing commodity scu

>Bug 798499 - Expense Chart data tables include extra columns of data

>Bug 798500 - FTBFS (tests failure) on armhf

>Bug 798501 - Balance wrong date end of period

>Bug 798531 - Selecting "Print" from the file menu on a report crashes
gnucash

>Bug 798533 - Crash when importing quicken @ currency

>Bug 798535 - Crash when increasing the number of periods in a budget

>Bug 798547 - Calculated Due Date is short 1 day when posting on day of
fall change from Daylight Time to Standard Time.

>

> The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

>

>Partially fix Bug 771095 by inserting a help button in the
Since-Last-Run dialog.

>Lock down GITHUB_TOKEN permissions on workflows.

>[g_option_context_get_help() returns a char* which must be freed.

>[assistant-stock-transaction] dividends must include stock account.

>Fix arch linux CI build failures.

>Add a help button to the financial calculator dialog.

>[assistant-stock-transaction] avoid resetting txn_types unnecessarily.

>[assistant-stock-transaction] reorder of Pages - date before type.

>[import matcher] Only append description if there's something to append
to, Otherwise just set the new string.

>[balsheet-pnl] test "lvl <= depth-limit" outside add-indented-row as a
first step trying to fix bug 798502. the bug likely resides in the (if)
conditional in (add-account-row).

>[gnc-main-window] page->window is not main_window, skip warning.

>[gnc-plugin-page-register] if account==NULL, skip AccountIsPriced
because gnc_plugin_page_register_ui_initial_state may be called for
non-account registers (eg the sx editor) and account may be null.

>[gnc-account-sel.c] prepend & reverse while building acct list

>

>and don't use confusing double pointer

>Fix use-after-free in unable to save database dialog.

>[account.cpp] restore breadth-first search for 2 functions

>

>gnc_account_lookup_by_name and gnc_account_lookup_by_code were
searching breadth-first and accidentally changed to depth-first in 4.7.

>[account.cpp] gnc_accounts_and_all_descendants converted from scm

>[CI]Work around new git security measure.

>[balsheet-pnl] faster definition of balance lists

>[gnc-numeric.cpp] Reduce logging level of gnc_numeric exception message
because exceptions are expected in some use cases.

>Redo icon handling in cmake

>

>Using globs for file copying prevents cmake from discovering newly
added icons. Writing rules that explicitly use lists of icons will fix this
as a new icon in the sources will have to be added to the list and will
force reparsing by cmake. We have to maintain the lists anyway for our dist
target s

Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account

[Gyle McCollam]

David,
Go to Help/About and click on the go to Visit GnuCash Website link.  From there 
on the left side click on the bug reports under support.  There you will find a 
place to submit enhancements.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of davidvernonl...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 10:32 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account

Adrien, Your advice of posting the member's expenses to a liability account
(Dr expenses and Cr Liability account) and then posting out of that
liability account via a credit note in the A/R system (Dr Liability account
and Cr members receivable account) is exactly what I am doing and of course
it works, but it means double the amount of transactions than if I could
simply Dr the relevant expense account when creating the credit note.
Unfortunately, the option of selecting an expense account at an item level
when creating the credit note is not available, and I cannot think of a good
reason why not, so shall ask for this enhancement. I think must be somewhere
users can make such a request, so shall figure out how to do that.
David

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   3.  Could Not Obtain Lock (Abe Sternberg)
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:17:40 +0100
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Hi Adrien,
In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at an
item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or liability
accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select the account.
Please check and tell me if I have misunderstood.
Best
David Long

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Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 17:18:06 +0100
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Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
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I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account.
The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset
account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes a
credit note represents a negative income.  The only work around I can find
is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense account in
liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second transaction to
the expense account.  Is there any other way?

For background, it's for a member's club where all members are invoiced for
membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members incur expenses on
behalf of the club, which I 

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release

[Gyle McCollam]

John Ralls,
I want to thank you and the other developers for this great software (4.11).  I 
know I don't use many of the features available, but what I do use is 
fantastic.  I want to thank you for fixing the "close with the X" problem in 
windows.  The work around was OK, but having it work correctly is better.

I did want to point out that the "Delete" button in the toolbar use to have a 
red circle with an X, but ow it is just a black circle with an X. This may have 
been intentional, I don't know.  No need to respond.  My main purpose for this 
email is to thank you and the team for all your hard work!


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of John Ralls 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 5:39 PM
To: gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org 
Cc: gnucash-devel ; Gnucash Users 

Subject: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.11, the twelfth release in the 
stable 4.x series
Between 4.10 and 4.11, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

Bug 797163 - qof_book_get_option segfaults when retrieving a non-leaf frame
Bug 798053 - Accounts renumeration (renumbering)
Bug 798471 - Can't see or select Income or Expense accounts in Income Tax 
Information GUI
Bug 798483 - GnuCash Crashing With SIGSEGV During QFX Import Transaction 
Matching
Bug 798491 - MT940 of day 28.02.2022 ends in transactiondate 01.01.1970
Bug 798493 - Invoice Report Quantity & Unit Price fields have limited 
decimal precision on printed invoices
Bug 798496 - gncEntry Quantity and Discount are misusing commodity scu
Bug 798499 - Expense Chart data tables include extra columns of data
Bug 798500 - FTBFS (tests failure) on armhf
Bug 798501 - Balance wrong date end of period
Bug 798531 - Selecting "Print" from the file menu on a report crashes 
gnucash
Bug 798533 - Crash when importing quicken @ currency
Bug 798535 - Crash when increasing the number of periods in a budget
Bug 798547 - Calculated Due Date is short 1 day when posting on day of fall 
change from Daylight Time to Standard Time.

The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

Partially fix Bug 771095 by inserting a help button in the Since-Last-Run 
dialog.
Lock down GITHUB_TOKEN permissions on workflows.
[g_option_context_get_help() returns a char* which must be freed.
[assistant-stock-transaction] dividends must include stock account.
Fix arch linux CI build failures.
Add a help button to the financial calculator dialog.
[assistant-stock-transaction] avoid resetting txn_types unnecessarily.
[assistant-stock-transaction] reorder of Pages - date before type.
[import matcher] Only append description if there's something to append to, 
Otherwise just set the new string.
[balsheet-pnl] test "lvl <= depth-limit" outside add-indented-row as a 
first step trying to fix bug 798502. the bug likely resides in the (if) 
conditional in (add-account-row).
[gnc-main-window] page->window is not main_window, skip warning.
[gnc-plugin-page-register] if account==NULL, skip AccountIsPriced because 
gnc_plugin_page_register_ui_initial_state may be called for non-account 
registers (eg the sx editor) and account may be null.
[gnc-account-sel.c] prepend & reverse while building acct list

and don't use confusing double pointer
Fix use-after-free in unable to save database dialog.
[account.cpp] restore breadth-first search for 2 functions

gnc_account_lookup_by_name and gnc_account_lookup_by_code were searching 
breadth-first and accidentally changed to depth-first in 4.7.
[account.cpp] gnc_accounts_and_all_descendants converted from scm
[CI]Work around new git security measure.
[balsheet-pnl] faster definition of balance lists
[gnc-numeric.cpp] Reduce logging level of gnc_numeric exception message 
because exceptions are expected in some use cases.
Redo icon handling in cmake

Using globs for file copying prevents cmake from discovering newly added 
icons. Writing rules that explicitly use lists of icons will fix this as a new 
icon in the sources will have to be added to the list and will force reparsing 
by cmake. We have to maintain the lists anyway for our dist target so there's 
actually no extra work involved for the devs.
[assistant-stock-transaction] better Dr/Cr imbalance error message

New API:

gnc:accounts-and-all-descendants-sorted
gnc-accounts-and-all-descendantsNone

Deprecations:

gnc:account-path-less-p
gnc:accounts-and-all-descendants

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(United Kingdom), French, German, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Korean, 
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Re: [GNC] Could Not Obtain Lock

[Gyle McCollam]

Abe,
I have had this issue as well.  It usually occurs when I forgot to save before 
closing.  It asks if I want to save, but no matter the reply, it doesn't save 
and doesn't close properly.  I was told it was fixed and i am waiting the 4.11 
update as well.  Hope this solves your issue when released.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Abe Sternberg 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:22 PM
To: Glenn Fowler 
Cc: GnuCash users group 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Could Not Obtain Lock

I am using Windows 11.  I try to close GnuCash properly, though there have
been times when I may not have.  Also, I have had some Windows updates
while GnuCash was left open.  I will look for the update and advise if the
error continues.

Thanks,
Abe

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:30 PM Glenn Fowler  wrote:

> Hi Abe,
>
> Are you on Windows and how are you closing GnuCash? There was a bug that
> would cause this that is fixed in v4.11 being released today
>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:00 PM Abe Sternberg 
> wrote:
>
>> I get this message every time I open GnuCash. It doesn't seem to cause any
>> damage but is an annoyance.  Does anyone know what causes this and how to
>> correct it?
>>  [image: image.png]
>>
>> Abe
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[GNC] Stock and Stock Prices

[Gyle McCollam]

My statements for stocks show shares and prices per share to 5 decimal places.  
In GnuCash "Tools/Price Database" it shows the per share price to 5 decimal 
places as well.  However, in the register it shows the shares and balance to 5 
decimal places as well, but it only shows the price to 4 decimal places.  I 
can't find how to change this anywhere.  I would like it to show the price in 
the register to the same 5 decimal places it has it recorded to in the price 
database.  Any help would be appreciated.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

[Gyle McCollam]

Liz,
Even though your email was not directed at me, I too want to apologize for my 
part in the exchange.  My apology is not only to you, but to the user base and 
to David T. as well.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Liz 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 12:55 AM
To: David T. via gnucash-user 
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 10:57:19 -0400
"David T. via gnucash-user"  wrote:

> I made my comment from that perspective; your snarky comment just
> underscores for me the kind of person YOU are. Go stuff yourself.
>
> David T.


David,
As the moderator, I don't want to see such words in the archives.
You put in lots of good information, please refrain from those sorts of
comments.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

[Gyle McCollam]

Sorry, tht first para was to be cross out.


Thank You,
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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Gyle McCollam 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:59 AM
To: David T. ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

Thank you for going back over my post with such a fine-tooth comb.  I don't 
know how I could have made such an egregious error.  I will attempt to do 
better in the future, but when I make an error like this again in the future, 
and I'm sure I will, please bring it to my attention.  My sincerest apologies.  
I do hope you forgive me.

Thank you.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam


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From: David T. 
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:32 PM
To: Gyle McCollam ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
; David Carlson ; Kevin 
T 
Subject: RE: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

The confusion arises when you use "entry" for both splits and transactions in 
the same paragraph, as you did here.

On June 18, 2022 4:57:57 PM EDT, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
When I say entry, I refer to the entire transaction, but I get your point.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: "David T." 
Date: 6/18/22 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org, Gyle McCollam , David Carlson 
, Kevin T 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

Gyle,

Whether you delete the imbalance account or not once it is empty is a user 
preference. Some dislike seeing the imbalance account in their books, and 
delete it if it is empty. Others (like myself and you) leave that account in 
place. I leave it because it just reappears again later anyways when you miss 
an entry.

Also, I'll note that you made a misleading statement late in the first 
paragraph when you said that "If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from 
the other accounts as well." In this instance, I think you meant to say "If he 
deletes the **transaction,** he will delete it from the other accounts as 
well." It's a minor, yet significant, difference in terminology. An entry (as I 
understand) is the single line within a transaction, synonymous with the 
Gnucash term "split." The Transaction is made up of two or more splits/entries.

Best,
David T.

On June 18, 2022 2:57:01 PM EDT, Gyle McCollam  wrote:

I agree that the matching step is critical when importing and the proper 
account should be assigned during import.  I also agree that the OP needs to 
understand Double Entry accounting better,  However, if he has "empty" 
transactions in the imbalance account, my bet is that if he clicks on the split 
icon in the toolbar, he will see his debit and credit accounts, plus the empty 
imbalance account.  When correcting the imbalance entry, he needs to open the 
split and click on the imbalance entry and change that to the proper account.  
I think he added the proper account, entered the amount, then removed the 
amount from the imbalance account. Doing it this way you can't delete the 
imbalance account, unless you "jump" to one of the other accounts and delete it 
from there.  If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from the other accounts 
as well, which he doesn't want to do.
  You state that "Once all funds are re-allocated there should be no entries 
remaining and you can safely delete that account."  You don't delete the 
account, once there are no entries the account it is irrelevant and if you have 
it set to not display unused accounts you won't see it unless in the future 
there is another entry in there,


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email

From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David Carlson 
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 1:59 PM
To: Kevin T 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

First, Imbalance-USD is not an expense account but a top level account, and
it is intended to be used only when an automated function is unable to form
a fully balanced transaction.  You are correct that you can look under that
account name to find unbalanced transactions if and when they exist.

You might find it useful to re-read about double entry bookkeeping in the
various help resources.  The F1 key should work while in GnuCash.

We never use the term "Category" to refer to anything in GnuCash, not even
"Expense" Accounts.

The fact that you are finding "empty" transactions there indicates that you
are not always deleting references to that account after re-allocating
funds to the desired account.  Onc

Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

[Gyle McCollam]

Thank you for going back over my post with such a fine-tooth comb.  I don't 
know how I could have made such an egregious error.  I will attempt to do 
better in the future, but when I make an error like this again in the future, 
and I'm sure I will, please bring it to my attention.  My sincerest apologies.  
I do hope you forgive me.

Thank you.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam


gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: David T. 
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:32 PM
To: Gyle McCollam ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
; David Carlson ; Kevin 
T 
Subject: RE: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

The confusion arises when you use "entry" for both splits and transactions in 
the same paragraph, as you did here.

On June 18, 2022 4:57:57 PM EDT, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
When I say entry, I refer to the entire transaction, but I get your point.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: "David T." 
Date: 6/18/22 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org, Gyle McCollam , David Carlson 
, Kevin T 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

Gyle,

Whether you delete the imbalance account or not once it is empty is a user 
preference. Some dislike seeing the imbalance account in their books, and 
delete it if it is empty. Others (like myself and you) leave that account in 
place. I leave it because it just reappears again later anyways when you miss 
an entry.

Also, I'll note that you made a misleading statement late in the first 
paragraph when you said that "If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from 
the other accounts as well." In this instance, I think you meant to say "If he 
deletes the **transaction,** he will delete it from the other accounts as 
well." It's a minor, yet significant, difference in terminology. An entry (as I 
understand) is the single line within a transaction, synonymous with the 
Gnucash term "split." The Transaction is made up of two or more splits/entries.

Best,
David T.

On June 18, 2022 2:57:01 PM EDT, Gyle McCollam  wrote:

I agree that the matching step is critical when importing and the proper 
account should be assigned during import.  I also agree that the OP needs to 
understand Double Entry accounting better,  However, if he has "empty" 
transactions in the imbalance account, my bet is that if he clicks on the split 
icon in the toolbar, he will see his debit and credit accounts, plus the empty 
imbalance account.  When correcting the imbalance entry, he needs to open the 
split and click on the imbalance entry and change that to the proper account.  
I think he added the proper account, entered the amount, then removed the 
amount from the imbalance account. Doing it this way you can't delete the 
imbalance account, unless you "jump" to one of the other accounts and delete it 
from there.  If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from the other accounts 
as well, which he doesn't want to do.
  You state that "Once all funds are re-allocated there should be no entries 
remaining and you can safely delete that account."  You don't delete the 
account, once there are no entries the account it is irrelevant and if you have 
it set to not display unused accounts you won't see it unless in the future 
there is another entry in there,


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email

From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David Carlson 
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 1:59 PM
To: Kevin T 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

First, Imbalance-USD is not an expense account but a top level account, and
it is intended to be used only when an automated function is unable to form
a fully balanced transaction.  You are correct that you can look under that
account name to find unbalanced transactions if and when they exist.

You might find it useful to re-read about double entry bookkeeping in the
various help resources.  The F1 key should work while in GnuCash.

We never use the term "Category" to refer to anything in GnuCash, not even
"Expense" Accounts.

The fact that you are finding "empty" transactions there indicates that you
are not always deleting references to that account after re-allocating
funds to the desired account.  Once all funds are re-allocated there should
be no entries remaining and you can safely delete that account.  It will be
re-created if new transactions appear.

As you noticed, double-clicking is nearly useless in GnuCash.  It does work
to change the sort order of columns in some windows.

When using an import function, GnuCash is trying to learn what Account
transactions have been applied to in the past so it can

Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

[Gyle McCollam]

When I say entry, I refer to the entire transaction, but I get your point.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: "David T." 
Date: 6/18/22 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org, Gyle McCollam , David Carlson 
, Kevin T 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

Gyle,

Whether you delete the imbalance account or not once it is empty is a user 
preference. Some dislike seeing the imbalance account in their books, and 
delete it if it is empty. Others (like myself and you) leave that account in 
place. I leave it because it just reappears again later anyways when you miss 
an entry.

Also, I'll note that you made a misleading statement late in the first 
paragraph when you said that "If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from 
the other accounts as well." In this instance, I think you meant to say "If he 
deletes the **transaction,** he will delete it from the other accounts as 
well." It's a minor, yet significant, difference in terminology. An entry (as I 
understand) is the single line within a transaction, synonymous with the 
Gnucash term "split." The Transaction is made up of two or more splits/entries.

Best,
David T.

On June 18, 2022 2:57:01 PM EDT, Gyle McCollam  wrote:

I agree that the matching step is critical when importing and the proper 
account should be assigned during import.  I also agree that the OP needs to 
understand Double Entry accounting better,  However, if he has "empty" 
transactions in the imbalance account, my bet is that if he clicks on the split 
icon in the toolbar, he will see his debit and credit accounts, plus the empty 
imbalance account.  When correcting the imbalance entry, he needs to open the 
split and click on the imbalance entry and change that to the proper account.  
I think he added the proper account, entered the amount, then removed the 
amount from the imbalance account. Doing it this way you can't delete the 
imbalance account, unless you "jump" to one of the other accounts and delete it 
from there.  If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from the other accounts 
as well, which he doesn't want to do.
  You state that "Once all funds are re-allocated there should be no entries 
remaining and you can safely delete that account."  You don't delete the 
account, once there are no entries the account it is irrelevant and if you have 
it set to not display unused accounts you won't see it unless in the future 
there is another entry in there,


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email

From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David Carlson 
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 1:59 PM
To: Kevin T 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

First, Imbalance-USD is not an expense account but a top level account, and
it is intended to be used only when an automated function is unable to form
a fully balanced transaction.  You are correct that you can look under that
account name to find unbalanced transactions if and when they exist.

You might find it useful to re-read about double entry bookkeeping in the
various help resources.  The F1 key should work while in GnuCash.

We never use the term "Category" to refer to anything in GnuCash, not even
"Expense" Accounts.

The fact that you are finding "empty" transactions there indicates that you
are not always deleting references to that account after re-allocating
funds to the desired account.  Once all funds are re-allocated there should
be no entries remaining and you can safely delete that account.  It will be
re-created if new transactions appear.

As you noticed, double-clicking is nearly useless in GnuCash.  It does work
to change the sort order of columns in some windows.

When using an import function, GnuCash is trying to learn what Account
transactions have been applied to in the past so it can try to use the same
account with similar transactions.  That is why it is important to use the
"Matching" step to correct account assignments before the import process is
closed.

Lastly, text files in Windows OS always use CR-LF, but other OS's mostly
use CR.  This creates confusion when viewing text files in other OS's.


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:54 AM Kevin T via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

 I have been populating my accounts with CSV.  During the import, the tool
 doesn't have any existing transactions to match, so most of them get
 assigned the expense category 'Imbalance-USD'.
 I am to the point of making sure that accounts are reconciled and
 transactions don't have left over or bad account assignments.  Since
 Imbalance is one of those expense categories I thought that would be a good
 place to ma

Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

[Gyle McCollam]

I agree that the matching step is critical when importing and the proper 
account should be assigned during import.  I also agree that the OP needs to 
understand Double Entry accounting better,  However, if he has "empty" 
transactions in the imbalance account, my bet is that if he clicks on the split 
icon in the toolbar, he will see his debit and credit accounts, plus the empty 
imbalance account.  When correcting the imbalance entry, he needs to open the 
split and click on the imbalance entry and change that to the proper account.  
I think he added the proper account, entered the amount, then removed the 
amount from the imbalance account. Doing it this way you can't delete the 
imbalance account, unless you "jump" to one of the other accounts and delete it 
from there.  If he deletes the entry, he will delete it from the other accounts 
as well, which he doesn't want to do.
  You state that "Once all funds are re-allocated there should be no entries 
remaining and you can safely delete that account."  You don't delete the 
account, once there are no entries the account it is irrelevant and if you have 
it set to not display unused accounts you won't see it unless in the future 
there is another entry in there,


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David Carlson 
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 1:59 PM
To: Kevin T 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] rookie question Imbalance-USD

First, Imbalance-USD is not an expense account but a top level account, and
it is intended to be used only when an automated function is unable to form
a fully balanced transaction.  You are correct that you can look under that
account name to find unbalanced transactions if and when they exist.

You might find it useful to re-read about double entry bookkeeping in the
various help resources.  The F1 key should work while in GnuCash.

We never use the term "Category" to refer to anything in GnuCash, not even
"Expense" Accounts.

The fact that you are finding "empty" transactions there indicates that you
are not always deleting references to that account after re-allocating
funds to the desired account.  Once all funds are re-allocated there should
be no entries remaining and you can safely delete that account.  It will be
re-created if new transactions appear.

As you noticed, double-clicking is nearly useless in GnuCash.  It does work
to change the sort order of columns in some windows.

When using an import function, GnuCash is trying to learn what Account
transactions have been applied to in the past so it can try to use the same
account with similar transactions.  That is why it is important to use the
"Matching" step to correct account assignments before the import process is
closed.

Lastly, text files in Windows OS always use CR-LF, but other OS's mostly
use CR.  This creates confusion when viewing text files in other OS's.


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:54 AM Kevin T via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I have been populating my accounts with CSV.  During the import, the tool
> doesn't have any existing transactions to match, so most of them get
> assigned the expense category 'Imbalance-USD'.
> I am to the point of making sure that accounts are reconciled and
> transactions don't have left over or bad account assignments.  Since
> Imbalance is one of those expense categories I thought that would be a good
> place to make sure things are clean.
> I double click that expense category and the tab populates.Most of these
> entries have no value in either the deposit or withdrawal columns.Some
> do.Some even have a transfer account defined and values.
> Sooo..  the stupid questions..
> If they have a transfer account and values already specified, why is this
> transaction in this expense category?How do I find out from which account
> these transactions were originally created?  double clicking does
> nothing.If they contain no values, is it safe to delete them?
> I did import a number of times, trying figuring out the import behavior,
> into temp or no longer existing accounts.  Are these left over after
> deleting these accounts?
> version 4.1 windows.
> I have noticed that my original emails contain a ? for every CRLF that
> occurs, when the mailing list distributes this.  I am using yahoo mail to
> send this.   Is there a way to stop this ? mark 'feature'??
>
> Kevin
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Re: [GNC] Language settings

[Gyle McCollam]

Don't see any setting. You might have to unistall and then reinstall choosing 
Spanish as the install language.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: rmom...@gmail.com
Date: 6/13/22 6:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: GnuCash 
Subject: [GNC] Language settings

How do I get my GnuCash back to Spanish? Version 4.6 installed Spanish
automatically but it recently switched to English.



Third time to ask for help with this question.



Thanks,

Roger

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Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

[Gyle McCollam]

David,
I used your trick to sort my accounts.  Knowing that I don't need a complete 
hierarchy of all my accounts, but only those at the same level has made this a 
lot better,  I have arranged my Assets in order of liquidity: Cash, Checking, 
Savings, CDs, etc.  I had the account code as the 1st column, but that caused 
the indented account list to be aligned.  Once I had the accounts 
numbered/ordered, only the ones I absolutely needed, at each level I moved the 
account code to the last column, which restored the indented nature of the CoA. 
 I much prefer looking at it this way.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David T. via gnucash-user 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 10:46 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

I use account codes in my file, and  like it quite a bit. You can add
the Code to the Chart of Accounts (CoA) page and quickly sort on it as
one would with any other displayed column. I'll note that the tree
aspect of the CoA means that the sorting will still be
hierarchical--that is, accounts will only sort in order at the same
level of hierarchy.

You can take advantage of this. A little trick I've used in my (perhaps
exceedingly) deep CoA is to refrain from assigning codes in certain
accounts, such as for individual commodities in investment accounts. I
do this because adding codes to the (often many) individual commodity
accounts quickly bogs down in a portfolio with even just a few
transactions per year. Instead, I use a single dummy code in the
commodities (1), and a blank for the associated Cash account. This
places the cash account at the top of the account listing, where I can
quickly find it; all the other commodities will then sort alphabetically
afterward. I find this kludge workable for my circumstances; your
results may vary.

David T.

On 6/13/2022 10:31 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> Jay,
> As someone suggested, you could assign account codes and sort on them.  I 
> would use at least a four digit number, so you have room to add accounts in 
> between in the future.  I would suggest 1000s for assets, 2000s for 
> liabilities, 3000s for income, and 4000s for expense.  You could use the 100s 
> in each for subaccounts and 10s for subs within that etc.  Using this 
> numbering scheme your accounts would line up more like your balance sheet and 
> income/expense report.  Using this scheme, you could also list the accounts 
> in any order you wish, not necessarily alphabetic. You could also assign 
> orphan and imbalance as  and 9998 to have them at the end, the same as 
> Alan does by sorting on hidden.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326 Mobile
>
> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email
>
> ____
> From: ja...@comcast.net 
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 9:42 AM
> To: 'Gyle McCollam' 
> Subject: RE: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree
>
> I am now sorting on the account and it seems to be working well.  I just
> wish that there was a way to move the accounts around in the list a little
> more easily. Thank you for your help
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user  On
> Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 12:07 PM
> To: Alan A Holmes ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree
>
> Alan,
> It sorts correctly in my GnuCash as well.  Are you sure it is sorting on the
> account column, it the only explanation I can think of?  Can't tell that
> from the narrow view in the attachment. I understand why the narrow view as
> you don't want to display the full account names.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326 Mobile
>
> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user  on
> behalf of Alan A Holmes 
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 11:52 AM
> To: stepbystepf...@comcast.net ;
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree
>
> I wasn't complaining, it was just a comment.
>
> But see the attachment, where "G" and "P" both come before "C". And there
> are no leading spaces or non-printable characters.
>
>
> Alan A Holmes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
>  On Behalf Of
> Michael or Penny Novack
> Sent: 12 June 2022 14:52
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree
>
>
>
>

Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

[Gyle McCollam]

Alan,
I noticed that the accounts under assets are not sorted in alpha order when I 
assign account codes to the major cats, namely the Assets (1), Liabilities (2), 
Equity (3), Income (4), and Expense (5).  I have determined this is due to the 
Asset account type being broken down into Assets, Bank, and Cash.  For some 
reason Cash comes before Asset, which comes before Bank.  I was thinking it was 
sorting on Type even though I didn't have "Type" displayed, but having Cash 
before Asset types negates that reasoning.

Also, wanted to let you know that sorting this way also put the Imbalance and 
Orphaned account as the first 2 entries.  I have my accounts filtered by 
View/Filter By.../Other and I removed all the check marks.  The accounts only 
display when they have a balance, which since they are at the top of the list 
really makes them stand out.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Alan A Holmes 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 3:12 AM
To: ja...@comcast.net ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

As Adrien said in his reply if you sort on the Account Name column it should
be okay.

Personally, I sort on the Hidden column which I have displayed, mainly
because it puts the Imbalance and Orphan accounts together at the bottom of
the list and enables me to find errors in transactions quickly.
What I do notice sorting this way is that within the top level accounts
(Assets, Expenses, Income, etc.) that the 2nd and subsequent level Accounts
under Assets AREN'T sorted alphabetically, while those under Expenses and
Income ARE. I have insufficient sub-accounts under Equity and Liabilities to
be able to say.


Alan A Holmes

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
ja...@comcast.net
Sent: 11 June 2022 12:29
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

I have been using gnucash for nearly 20 years. My account lists were a mess
until this spring when somehow I spent a day or two reorganizing everything
into a new and very well organized account tree.  For the life of me, I
don't remember how I was able to do that without losing the 20 years of data
stored in my accounts.  I would like to reorganize the order in which my
bank accounts are listed to make them in alphabetical order but I cannot
find a way to move the accounts in the account tree. I can go to the parent
account but that does not give me control to move the accounts around.

Can someone tell me how to move accounts around in the
account list.  Thank you.  Chin00kie

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Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

[Gyle McCollam]

Jay,
As someone suggested, you could assign account codes and sort on them.  I would 
use at least a four digit number, so you have room to add accounts in between 
in the future.  I would suggest 1000s for assets, 2000s for liabilities, 3000s 
for income, and 4000s for expense.  You could use the 100s in each for 
subaccounts and 10s for subs within that etc.  Using this numbering scheme your 
accounts would line up more like your balance sheet and income/expense report.  
Using this scheme, you could also list the accounts in any order you wish, not 
necessarily alphabetic. You could also assign orphan and imbalance as  and 
9998 to have them at the end, the same as Alan does by sorting on hidden.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: ja...@comcast.net 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 9:42 AM
To: 'Gyle McCollam' 
Subject: RE: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

I am now sorting on the account and it seems to be working well.  I just
wish that there was a way to move the accounts around in the list a little
more easily. Thank you for your help

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 12:07 PM
To: Alan A Holmes ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

Alan,
It sorts correctly in my GnuCash as well.  Are you sure it is sorting on the
account column, it the only explanation I can think of?  Can't tell that
from the narrow view in the attachment. I understand why the narrow view as
you don't want to display the full account names.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on
behalf of Alan A Holmes 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 11:52 AM
To: stepbystepf...@comcast.net ;
gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

I wasn't complaining, it was just a comment.

But see the attachment, where "G" and "P" both come before "C". And there
are no leading spaces or non-printable characters.


Alan A Holmes

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Michael or Penny Novack
Sent: 12 June 2022 14:52
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree



> What I do notice sorting this way is that within the top level
> accounts (Assets, Expenses, Income, etc.) that the 2nd and subsequent
> level Accounts under Assets AREN'T sorted alphabetically, while those
> under Expenses and Income ARE. I have insufficient sub-accounts under
> Equity and Liabilities to be able to say.

WHAT are you saying, exactly?

The CoA is a TREE structure. The accounts at the same level of the tree
should be sorted in alpha-meric order. The sibling accounts (children of the
same parent account) should also be sorted that way AMONG THEMSELVES (but
not sorted that way with respect to children of different parents)

You aren't seeing the ultimate top level parent (aka "root") but "top level"
accounts like "asset", "liability", "equity", "income", "expense",
"Imbalance" are its children and so appear in sorted order.
In other words, they are siblings at the highest level.

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Entry Point Not Found error

[Gyle McCollam]

Kari,
Do you use GnuCash standard file (XML) or do you use a DB program.  When you do 
a file open it defaults to file which is XML.  If you used a DB, after you did 
a File/Open, you would have the change the "Data Format" at the top middle of 
the "Open" dialogue.  I have never used a DB, so this may be totally off the 
mark.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

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From: Kari E 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 2:25 PM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Entry Point Not Found error

Still struggling, but making progress!  So I uninstalled gnucash 4.10, 
rebooted, and reinstalled from a new download.  Now the app starts and seems to 
run correctly (I think I may have gotten a corrupted install file via 
download).  But when I run the app and choose FILE, OPEN and point it at my 
backed up file June2022.gnucash.gcm I get an error "no suitable backend was 
found for  D:\Documents\gnucash\books\June2022.gnucash.gcm"  I know this file 
is good, as it works with older versions of Gnucash on a W7 PC.  So I suspect 
it is a problem with using the new version app against an old version file.

The word "backend" is only found once in the gnucash help, so I am at a loss as 
to what to do next.  I have tried to import, but there doesnt seem to be any 
import function from older versions.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 9:50 PM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:
Kari,
You say you upgraded from an "ancient" version.  I have seen recommendations 
that users upgrade in steps , not a wholesale upgrade.  I would try 
uninstalling, then install the next major level, say 3.0.  Try that and if it 
lets you in, run "Actions/Check & Repair/Check & Repair All".  Then upgrade to  
v4.0 and repeat.  Once this is working, then upgrade to 4.1.  Good Luck!


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user 
mailto:gmail@gnucash.org>>
 on behalf of Kari E 
mailto:kari.elliott...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 9:48 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: [GNC] Entry Point Not Found error

64 bit Windows 10 Home, I have been running ancient version of Gnucash, and
I updated to latest version, and when I attempt to run the app or double
click on the gnucash book, I get:

"The procedure entry point inflateValidate could not be located in the
dynamic link library D:\program Files\gnucash\bin\libpng16-16.dll"

Search brings me an unhelpful post from 5 years ago (
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-June/077629.html )
but nothing else.  How do I get gnucash running again?

Kari Elliott
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Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

[Gyle McCollam]

Alan,
It sorts correctly in my GnuCash as well.  Are you sure it is sorting on the 
account column, it the only explanation I can think of?  Can't tell that from 
the narrow view in the attachment. I understand why the narrow view as you 
don't want to display the full account names.


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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Alan A Holmes 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 11:52 AM
To: stepbystepf...@comcast.net ; 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree

I wasn't complaining, it was just a comment.

But see the attachment, where "G" and "P" both come before "C". And there
are no leading spaces or non-printable characters.


Alan A Holmes

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Michael or Penny Novack
Sent: 12 June 2022 14:52
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to reorganize the account tree



> What I do notice sorting this way is that within the top level
> accounts (Assets, Expenses, Income, etc.) that the 2nd and subsequent
> level Accounts under Assets AREN'T sorted alphabetically, while those
> under Expenses and Income ARE. I have insufficient sub-accounts under
> Equity and Liabilities to be able to say.

WHAT are you saying, exactly?

The CoA is a TREE structure. The accounts at the same level of the tree
should be sorted in alpha-meric order. The sibling accounts (children of the
same parent account) should also be sorted that way AMONG THEMSELVES (but
not sorted that way with respect to children of different parents)

You aren't seeing the ultimate top level parent (aka "root") but "top level"
accounts like "asset", "liability", "equity", "income", "expense",
"Imbalance" are its children and so appear in sorted order.
In other words, they are siblings at the highest level.

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] questions on 4.1

[Gyle McCollam]

I only initially responded to the 1st question you raised.  However, as for the 
2nd question, I feel, that the software is operating correctly.  When you are 
reconciling an account, say Bank A, you are reconciling only that account, not 
the accounts that the other side of the transactions are posted to.  When you 
reconcile those accounts, you would reconcile that half (or less depending on 
how many splits there are).  Say the other half of the split was Bank B, You 
wouldn't want to reconcile that transaction when you do Bank A because when you 
get Bank B's statement, they may not have credited your account (not likely, 
but) and it would make it harder to determine where the error is at.


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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Gyle McCollam 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 10:20 AM
To: ja...@comcast.net ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] questions on 4.1

Jay,
Happy you found this helpful.  I respond to questions because others have 
responded to me or I have found their responses to other helpful, as you did 
this response.  I don't know enough programing, just enough to be dangerous, so 
I help where I can.  I have picked up several tip/tricks along the way and I am 
grateful to those who take the time to respond to questions.  I picked this up 
from a previous question/answer session and feel it is part of my obligation to 
pass it on when I can.  Several names keep appearing in response to questions.  
Do you hear me: Adrein, David T, Michael, and others.  Thanks to you and 
everyone that takes the time!


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: ja...@comcast.net 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:57 AM
To: 'Gyle McCollam' 
Subject: RE: [GNC] questions on 4.1

Gyle, Thank you. I had overlooked that arrow and feature.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 3:42 PM
To: Top Cat ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] questions on 4.1

I'm sure your aware, but just in case.  Did you know there is a down arrow
at the far right of the account heading screen.  This allows you to add or
remove columns from the accounts page.  Maybe, the account code box is not
checked (3rd one down).


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on
behalf of Top Cat 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:44 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] questions on 4.1

I have been using gnucash since 2.x with a MySQL database



I recently build a new machine and updated to 4.1, and have run into several
issues

1.  On the accounts page, I can no longer show the account numbers, or
sort by them
2.  On reconciliations, paired transactions (like transfers from one
subaccount to another) no longer clear "both sides" when one is checked - it
requires manually marking both sides separately.



Is this correct behavior? Are there settings I am missing? do I need to
reinstall/save and restore data?



Any help would be appreciated

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Re: [GNC] questions on 4.1

[Gyle McCollam]

Jay,
Happy you found this helpful.  I respond to questions because others have 
responded to me or I have found their responses to other helpful, as you did 
this response.  I don't know enough programing, just enough to be dangerous, so 
I help where I can.  I have picked up several tip/tricks along the way and I am 
grateful to those who take the time to respond to questions.  I picked this up 
from a previous question/answer session and feel it is part of my obligation to 
pass it on when I can.  Several names keep appearing in response to questions.  
Do you hear me: Adrein, David T, Michael, and others.  Thanks to you and 
everyone that takes the time!


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: ja...@comcast.net 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:57 AM
To: 'Gyle McCollam' 
Subject: RE: [GNC] questions on 4.1

Gyle, Thank you. I had overlooked that arrow and feature.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of Gyle McCollam
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 3:42 PM
To: Top Cat ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] questions on 4.1

I'm sure your aware, but just in case.  Did you know there is a down arrow
at the far right of the account heading screen.  This allows you to add or
remove columns from the accounts page.  Maybe, the account code box is not
checked (3rd one down).


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on
behalf of Top Cat 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:44 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] questions on 4.1

I have been using gnucash since 2.x with a MySQL database



I recently build a new machine and updated to 4.1, and have run into several
issues

1.  On the accounts page, I can no longer show the account numbers, or
sort by them
2.  On reconciliations, paired transactions (like transfers from one
subaccount to another) no longer clear "both sides" when one is checked - it
requires manually marking both sides separately.



Is this correct behavior? Are there settings I am missing? do I need to
reinstall/save and restore data?



Any help would be appreciated

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Re: [GNC] Entry Point Not Found error

[Gyle McCollam]

Kari,
You say you upgraded from an "ancient" version.  I have seen recommendations 
that users upgrade in steps , not a wholesale upgrade.  I would try 
uninstalling, then install the next major level, say 3.0.  Try that and if it 
lets you in, run "Actions/Check & Repair/Check & Repair All".  Then upgrade to  
v4.0 and repeat.  Once this is working, then upgrade to 4.1.  Good Luck!


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Kari E 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 9:48 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Entry Point Not Found error

64 bit Windows 10 Home, I have been running ancient version of Gnucash, and
I updated to latest version, and when I attempt to run the app or double
click on the gnucash book, I get:

"The procedure entry point inflateValidate could not be located in the
dynamic link library D:\program Files\gnucash\bin\libpng16-16.dll"

Search brings me an unhelpful post from 5 years ago (
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-June/077629.html )
but nothing else.  How do I get gnucash running again?

Kari Elliott
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Re: [GNC] questions on 4.1

[Gyle McCollam]

I'm sure your aware, but just in case.  Did you know there is a down arrow at 
the far right of the account heading screen.  This allows you to add or remove 
columns from the accounts page.  Maybe, the account code box is not checked 
(3rd one down).


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Top Cat 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:44 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] questions on 4.1

I have been using gnucash since 2.x with a MySQL database



I recently build a new machine and updated to 4.1, and have run into several
issues

1.  On the accounts page, I can no longer show the account numbers, or
sort by them
2.  On reconciliations, paired transactions (like transfers from one
subaccount to another) no longer clear "both sides" when one is checked - it
requires manually marking both sides separately.



Is this correct behavior? Are there settings I am missing? do I need to
reinstall/save and restore data?



Any help would be appreciated

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Re: [GNC] Zero price entries

[Gyle McCollam]

PS, sorry I don't see the screenshot, so I'm flying blind.  Since you say they 
are in the PriceDB, maybe there is a way to edit the DB directly, nit using 
GnuCash and price to sort as I suggested.


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From: Fred Tydeman 
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 10:54 AM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Zero price entries



On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 7:46 AM Gyle McCollam 
mailto:gmccol...@live.com>> wrote:
Fred,
The key is in your question.  You can use Edit/Find and search for zero values 
and apparently, if you do it from the accounts screen you can search all 
account at once or you could search in each account.  Once it finds the 
transaction it displays them in a new tab.  All you have to do is delete them 
from there and they will gone in the account they were found in.


I am not looking for transactions with zero price.
I am looking for entries in the price database (Tools->Price Editor)

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Re: [GNC] Zero price entries

[Gyle McCollam]

Fred,
The key is in your question.  You can use Edit/Find and search for zero values 
and apparently, if you do it from the accounts screen you can search all 
account at once or you could search in each account.  Once it finds the 
transaction it displays them in a new tab.  All you have to do is delete them 
from there and they will gone in the account they were found in.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Fred Tydeman 
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 10:38 AM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Zero price entries

Is there an easy way to find all the zero price entries in the price
history?

I have several hundred stock and currency items, some with zero price
entries.

I am used to using Enter (instead of Tab) as a way to advance to the next
field in a new transaction.  Because of that, I believe that caused zero
price entries to end up in the price history.  I would like to find those
zero price entries and delete them.
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