Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
See my reply above concerning native resolution and accessibility features. I don't use Gnome as a daily desktop, but I'm sure it has a scaling feature also. At the least, you can increase the various UI font sizes. Regards, Adrien On 6/29/23 3:14 PM, Default User wrote: Actually, no - I am not running Windows. I am running Debian 12, Gnome 43.4, and wayland. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 13:08 -0700, Stan Brown wrote: > On 2023-06-29 12:59, Default User wrote: > > Unfortunately, I still do not know any way to resize the window to > > less > > that the minimum dimensions set by the programmer(s). > > Apologies if I'm misremembering, but I think you're in Windows. (The > rationale for making _any_ window non-resizable escapes me, yet > Windows > itself contains many such.) In Windows, it's up to the programmer to > make a window resizable or not. If the programmer makes it > non-resizable, as far as I know there's no way for the user to > override > that. > > > As for resolution, the native resolution of my computer is 1920 x > > 1080. > > That does show the whole Preferences window, but the display is > > just > > too small to be used for anything except squinting just long enough > > to > > edit the Preferences, and then switch the resolution back to 1360 x > > 768, which is the highest my eyes can really "work with". > > Two settings are relevant: resolution and scale. In Windows 10, > right-click an empty area of your desktop and select Display > Settings. > In the dialog that opens, change the setting in the drop-down list > under > "Scale and layout / Change the size of text, apps, and other items". > You > may find that changing that setting makes your 1920×1080 display > readable. (Already-open windows may or may not resize themselves, but > any new windows should display in the desired scale.) > > In other versions of Windows the same setting exists, but you may > have > to get to it in a different way are different. > > Stan Brown > Tehachapi, CA, USA > https://BrownMath.com > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. Hi Stan! Actually, no - I am not running Windows. I am running Debian 12, Gnome 43.4, and wayland. Thanks anyway! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
On 2023-06-29 12:59, Default User wrote: > Unfortunately, I still do not know any way to resize the window to less > that the minimum dimensions set by the programmer(s). Apologies if I'm misremembering, but I think you're in Windows. (The rationale for making _any_ window non-resizable escapes me, yet Windows itself contains many such.) In Windows, it's up to the programmer to make a window resizable or not. If the programmer makes it non-resizable, as far as I know there's no way for the user to override that. > As for resolution, the native resolution of my computer is 1920 x 1080. > That does show the whole Preferences window, but the display is just > too small to be used for anything except squinting just long enough to > edit the Preferences, and then switch the resolution back to 1360 x > 768, which is the highest my eyes can really "work with". Two settings are relevant: resolution and scale. In Windows 10, right-click an empty area of your desktop and select Display Settings. In the dialog that opens, change the setting in the drop-down list under "Scale and layout / Change the size of text, apps, and other items". You may find that changing that setting makes your 1920×1080 display readable. (Already-open windows may or may not resize themselves, but any new windows should display in the desired scale.) In other versions of Windows the same setting exists, but you may have to get to it in a different way are different. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 23:34 -0500, Tommy Trussell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:00 PM Default User > wrote: > > Well, doing Alt-F7, then moving bit by bit with the arrow keys, did > > work to move the window up, so it can be used to edit the > > Preferences > > window. I thought I had tried that earlier without success, but > > maybe I > > just wasn't doing it "right". > > > > > Hi -- if your keyboard has a "windows" button on it (usually bottom > row, with ctrl, alt, space bar etc) try holding that button down and > then dragging the window. You can click anywhere in the window and > drag it. It worked for me just now in Ubuntu 23.04, running Wayland. > > There are several places where GnuCash probably ought to handle lower > resolutions, but there's a stated minimum resolution the developers > test against, and making it "fit" lower resolutions is unlikely to be > a very high priority. (Years ago I used to regularly run GnuCash on a > "netbook" and there are several uncomfortable areas, especially the > application and report preferences.) > > Of course the source is readily available! Maybe this will be the > itch you yearn to scratch. > > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. Hi, Tommy! Your suggestion to move the Preferences window by holding down the "Windows" key while dragging the window with the mouse does work. Thanks! So, there are at least 3 ways to move the window: 1) Alt-F7, then use arrows on keyboard. 2) Alt-F7, then drag window with mouse 3) hold down the "Windows" key while dragging the window with the mouse (which seems the easiest to me). Unfortunately, I still do not know any way to resize the window to less that the minimum dimensions set by the programmer(s). As for resolution, the native resolution of my computer is 1920 x 1080. That does show the whole Preferences window, but the display is just too small to be used for anything except squinting just long enough to edit the Preferences, and then switch the resolution back to 1360 x 768, which is the highest my eyes can really "work with". BTW, since I am not a programmer, I can't change how a program is coded. That's a shame, because I am just guessing that making a window resizeable might not be that hard to do. But of course, that's easy for me to say . . . Thanks again! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
This may not be ideal for your situation, but try a higher resolution with a larger system font. Most modern video hardware performs better and lasts longer at its native resolution though. There are ways to find that on Debian. Ideally, run it at native resolution and adjust UI items to suit your needs. (and/or use the accessibility features) However, 768 seems like a reasonable minimum vertical resolution to target since it is fairly common for screens less than 1080. I think the lack of sizing control is a GTK issue, but the devs would know for sure. Regards, Adrien On 6/25/23 6:53 PM, Default User wrote: I actually INCREASED the resolution from 1360 x 768 to 1920 x 1080 (MY EYES! MY EYES!!) long enough to edit the Preferences window, then decreased to resolution back to 1360 x 768 (I CAN SEE AGAIN! I CAN SEE!!) Not a real solution, but a just barely effective, half-donkeyed, duct tape work-around. Note: this is an old problem that has been around for YEARS. Previously, I was able to work around it by moving the top of the preferences window above the top of the screen, but apparently that (and a lot of other things) don't work in "modern" Gnome. [Note: there seems to be enough blank space near the bottom of the Preferences window to shrink its height enough to fit the screen. Or, the window could always be made resizeable, with a scroll bar . . . )] ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
I seem to recall that was once 800x600, but I think they upped it a couple of years ago. I'm not sure what the new minimum is now. Regards, Adrien On 6/28/23 11:34 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote: There are several places where GnuCash probably ought to handle lower resolutions, but there's a stated minimum resolution the developers test against, and making it "fit" lower resolutions is unlikely to be a very high priority. (Years ago I used to regularly run GnuCash on a "netbook" and there are several uncomfortable areas, especially the application and report preferences.) ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:00 PM Default User wrote: > Well, doing Alt-F7, then moving bit by bit with the arrow keys, did > work to move the window up, so it can be used to edit the Preferences > window. I thought I had tried that earlier without success, but maybe I > just wasn't doing it "right". > Hi -- if your keyboard has a "windows" button on it (usually bottom row, with ctrl, alt, space bar etc) try holding that button down and then dragging the window. You can click anywhere in the window and drag it. It worked for me just now in Ubuntu 23.04, running Wayland. There are several places where GnuCash probably ought to handle lower resolutions, but there's a stated minimum resolution the developers test against, and making it "fit" lower resolutions is unlikely to be a very high priority. (Years ago I used to regularly run GnuCash on a "netbook" and there are several uncomfortable areas, especially the application and report preferences.) Of course the source is readily available! Maybe this will be the itch you yearn to scratch. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
On Sun, 2023-06-25 at 19:33 -0500, David Carlson wrote: > Well, I am running GnuCash 4.8 usually in Ubuntu 22.04, and I see > that the Preferences window fills the vertical space where my display > is set to 1366 x 768. There is no need for the window to be that > tall and fixed in size without a scrollbar. I would file an > enhancement bug report to give that window a scrollbar, if nobody > else beats you to it. > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 7:07 PM NoobAlice > wrote: > > Default User hunguponcontent, > > > > This is probably a Wayland windowing system problem, not a GnuCash > > problem. On Xorg, the window is easily resizable and movable. > > > > What have you tried besides changing the display resolution back > > and forth? > > > > If you were on Xorg, I would say try these individual solutions on > > the > > Preferences window: > > * dragging the grabbable titlebar of the window down, then using > > your > > mouse to resize the window shorter, then dragging it up so you can > > see > > the bottom > > * holding down your Alt key and then click-holding your normal > > (left) > > mouse button and dragging the window with your mouse > > * hitting Alt+F7, then using your arrow keys to move the window and > > hitting Enter when you have it where you want it > > * hitting Alt+F8, then using your arrow keys to resize the sides of > > the > > window and hitting Enter when you have it where you want it > > > > And then I would tell you that, if this window is appearing in the > > wrong > > place all the time, you could install and set up devilspie to fix > > it > > permanently. :) > > > > Surely Wayland has some similar way to manipulate windows. My > > quick > > search says that shortcuts are handled by the compositor in Wayland > > [1]. > > You might get much better answers if you ask in the Gnome support > > channels. > > > > Good luck! This is a frustrating problem to have. :( > > > > [1] > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland#Input_grabbing_in_games,_remote_desktop_and_VM_windows > > > > > > On 2023-06-25 03:08 PM, Default User wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > I am trying to set up GnuCash: > > > > > > Version: 4.13 > > > Build ID: 4.13+(2022-12-17) > > > Finance::Quote: 1.54 > > > > > > on Debian 12 (bookworm), 64-bit, using Gnome 43.4, wayland > > > windowing > > > system (not xorg). > > > > > > This is a .deb package, "GnuCash Version: 1:4.13-1, Built-Using: > > > googletest (= 1.12.1-0.2)", from the Debian Stable repositories, > > > NOT a > > > flatpak, snap, or appimage. > > > > > > When I do Edit --> Preferences, the Preferences window opens, but > > > the > > > bottom part is cut off. No matter what I try, I can am not able > > > to > > > resize it to fit the screen. Nor can I even move it past the top > > > edge > > > of the screen. I even tried reducing the display resolution, to > > > no > > > avail. > > > > > > So, is there a solution, or even a viable workaround? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > - > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > -- > David Carlson Hi! Well, doing Alt-F7, then moving bit by bit with the arrow keys, did work to move the window up, so it can be used to edit the Preferences window. I thought I had tried that earlier without success, but maybe I just wasn't doing it "right". Unfortunately, nothing worked to resize the window. It seems to have a minimum vertical and horizontal size programmed in, so that it can be resized to be bigger than, but not smaller than the built-in minimum dimensions. BTW, regarding this problem, there did not seem to be any difference at all between using wayland and using xorg. So that's doesn't seem to be the source of the problem. Anyway, thanks to David and NoobAlice for the hints! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
Well, I am running GnuCash 4.8 usually in Ubuntu 22.04, and I see that the Preferences window fills the vertical space where my display is set to 1366 x 768. There is no need for the window to be that tall and fixed in size without a scrollbar. I would file an enhancement bug report to give that window a scrollbar, if nobody else beats you to it. On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 7:07 PM NoobAlice wrote: > Default User hunguponcontent, > > This is probably a Wayland windowing system problem, not a GnuCash > problem. On Xorg, the window is easily resizable and movable. > > What have you tried besides changing the display resolution back and forth? > > If you were on Xorg, I would say try these individual solutions on the > Preferences window: > * dragging the grabbable titlebar of the window down, then using your > mouse to resize the window shorter, then dragging it up so you can see > the bottom > * holding down your Alt key and then click-holding your normal (left) > mouse button and dragging the window with your mouse > * hitting Alt+F7, then using your arrow keys to move the window and > hitting Enter when you have it where you want it > * hitting Alt+F8, then using your arrow keys to resize the sides of the > window and hitting Enter when you have it where you want it > > And then I would tell you that, if this window is appearing in the wrong > place all the time, you could install and set up devilspie to fix it > permanently. :) > > Surely Wayland has some similar way to manipulate windows. My quick > search says that shortcuts are handled by the compositor in Wayland [1]. > You might get much better answers if you ask in the Gnome support > channels. > > Good luck! This is a frustrating problem to have. :( > > [1] > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland#Input_grabbing_in_games,_remote_desktop_and_VM_windows > > > On 2023-06-25 03:08 PM, Default User wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I am trying to set up GnuCash: > > > > Version: 4.13 > > Build ID: 4.13+(2022-12-17) > > Finance::Quote: 1.54 > > > > on Debian 12 (bookworm), 64-bit, using Gnome 43.4, wayland windowing > > system (not xorg). > > > > This is a .deb package, "GnuCash Version: 1:4.13-1, Built-Using: > > googletest (= 1.12.1-0.2)", from the Debian Stable repositories, NOT a > > flatpak, snap, or appimage. > > > > When I do Edit --> Preferences, the Preferences window opens, but the > > bottom part is cut off. No matter what I try, I can am not able to > > resize it to fit the screen. Nor can I even move it past the top edge > > of the screen. I even tried reducing the display resolution, to no > > avail. > > > > So, is there a solution, or even a viable workaround? > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
Default User hunguponcontent, This is probably a Wayland windowing system problem, not a GnuCash problem. On Xorg, the window is easily resizable and movable. What have you tried besides changing the display resolution back and forth? If you were on Xorg, I would say try these individual solutions on the Preferences window: * dragging the grabbable titlebar of the window down, then using your mouse to resize the window shorter, then dragging it up so you can see the bottom * holding down your Alt key and then click-holding your normal (left) mouse button and dragging the window with your mouse * hitting Alt+F7, then using your arrow keys to move the window and hitting Enter when you have it where you want it * hitting Alt+F8, then using your arrow keys to resize the sides of the window and hitting Enter when you have it where you want it And then I would tell you that, if this window is appearing in the wrong place all the time, you could install and set up devilspie to fix it permanently. :) Surely Wayland has some similar way to manipulate windows. My quick search says that shortcuts are handled by the compositor in Wayland [1]. You might get much better answers if you ask in the Gnome support channels. Good luck! This is a frustrating problem to have. :( [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland#Input_grabbing_in_games,_remote_desktop_and_VM_windows On 2023-06-25 03:08 PM, Default User wrote: Hello! I am trying to set up GnuCash: Version: 4.13 Build ID: 4.13+(2022-12-17) Finance::Quote: 1.54 on Debian 12 (bookworm), 64-bit, using Gnome 43.4, wayland windowing system (not xorg). This is a .deb package, "GnuCash Version: 1:4.13-1, Built-Using: googletest (= 1.12.1-0.2)", from the Debian Stable repositories, NOT a flatpak, snap, or appimage. When I do Edit --> Preferences, the Preferences window opens, but the bottom part is cut off. No matter what I try, I can am not able to resize it to fit the screen. Nor can I even move it past the top edge of the screen. I even tried reducing the display resolution, to no avail. So, is there a solution, or even a viable workaround? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
On Sun, 2023-06-25 at 16:19 -0500, David Carlson wrote: > Do you have a friend or neighbor that could loan you a high > resolution monitor for a few hours? > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2023, 2:09 PM Default User > wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I am trying to set up GnuCash: > > > > Version: 4.13 > > Build ID: 4.13+(2022-12-17) > > Finance::Quote: 1.54 > > > > on Debian 12 (bookworm), 64-bit, using Gnome 43.4, wayland > > windowing > > system (not xorg). > > > > This is a .deb package, "GnuCash Version: 1:4.13-1, Built-Using: > > googletest (= 1.12.1-0.2)", from the Debian Stable repositories, > > NOT a > > flatpak, snap, or appimage. > > > > When I do Edit --> Preferences, the Preferences window opens, but > > the > > bottom part is cut off. No matter what I try, I can am not able to > > resize it to fit the screen. Nor can I even move it past the top > > edge > > of the screen. I even tried reducing the display resolution, to no > > avail. > > > > So, is there a solution, or even a viable workaround? > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. Hi David. Here's what I did: I actually INCREASED the resolution from 1360 x 768 to 1920 x 1080 (MY EYES! MY EYES!!) long enough to edit the Preferences window, then decreased to resolution back to 1360 x 768 (I CAN SEE AGAIN! I CAN SEE!!) Not a real solution, but a just barely effective, half-donkeyed, duct tape work-around. Note: this is an old problem that has been around for YEARS. Previously, I was able to work around it by moving the top of the preferences window above the top of the screen, but apparently that (and a lot of other things) don't work in "modern" Gnome. [Note: there seems to be enough blank space near the bottom of the Preferences window to shrink its height enough to fit the screen. Or, the window could always be made resizeable, with a scroll bar . . . )] Anyway, thanks for the reply! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Can not resize GnuCash Preferences window
Do you have a friend or neighbor that could loan you a high resolution monitor for a few hours? On Sun, Jun 25, 2023, 2:09 PM Default User wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to set up GnuCash: > > Version: 4.13 > Build ID: 4.13+(2022-12-17) > Finance::Quote: 1.54 > > on Debian 12 (bookworm), 64-bit, using Gnome 43.4, wayland windowing > system (not xorg). > > This is a .deb package, "GnuCash Version: 1:4.13-1, Built-Using: > googletest (= 1.12.1-0.2)", from the Debian Stable repositories, NOT a > flatpak, snap, or appimage. > > When I do Edit --> Preferences, the Preferences window opens, but the > bottom part is cut off. No matter what I try, I can am not able to > resize it to fit the screen. Nor can I even move it past the top edge > of the screen. I even tried reducing the display resolution, to no > avail. > > So, is there a solution, or even a viable workaround? > > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
