Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[Joao Paulo Cota]

Alberto,
Please stop your BS. This was not abject intimidation, it was a direct question 
with very valid reasons behind it.
I know what I have written and maybe you are ignorant to what is happening in 
India, possibly because you live in Portugal and is oblivious of what is going 
on in present day India with this nationalist fundamentalist wave at the moment.
So if you know nothing about it, please stay away from commenting on something 
you know nothing about. Best to stick to your history.
I was only concerned about something that is happening at national level, and 
this period stated 'before and after VDG landed in Goa' does fall under the 
bracket in question. it fits the anti-Christian and anti-Muslim agenda.
I am not sure about your 'MCE' analysis. Whoever left Goa usually does not get 
involved with it anymore, for them it is something of the past.
It is for people who are genuinely interested in the future of Goa that are 
usually concerned about many things going on discreetly behind people's backs.
For your information I am not born in Goa, I was born after the 
liberation/invasion and so your 'MCE' BS does not apply to me.
JP Cota

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I am curious about this research of yours…agenda to destroy any churches…..Too 
many secret project going on behind people's backs,…etc…. Joao Paulo Cota.
This is abject intimidation.

Dear Smita

Beware of the minority Christian extremists - MCE - who abandoned Goa after 
Liberation. Any research you undertake into the true history of Goa, before the 
arrival of the pirates, will be considered pro-BJP by them. MCEs prefer lies. 
Smita, do not be afraid of the work you are doing to uncover the history of the 
Konkan Coast. These MECs can no longer intimidate the Indian people or the 
Portuguese people. I am a history teacher in Portugal and as such I strongly 
advise you to continue your work.
Good luck.
Alberto



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Dear Smita,
I am curious about this research of yours.
Sorry to be blunt but has this got to do with the BJP's grand fundamentalist 
plan to find out which temples were allegedly destroyed by the Portuguese in 
Goa and then make an agenda to destroy any churches and rebuilt these temples, 
Ayodhya style?
Too many secret project going on behind people's backs, so it is good to know 
if that is the ultimate aim of this research.
Kind regards,
Joao Paulo Cota






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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[Joao Paulo Cota]

Dear Dr Smita,
Thanks for your explanation.
In this day and age on wonders who is friend or foe.
Good that your work is neutral and not affiliated to any political agenda.
But what is the aim of this work, what are you trying/hoping to uncover? 
Specially when you are firm on the periods before and soon after the Portuguese 
landed up in Goa.
That can help others help you.
Regards,
Joao Paulo Cota
(you can skip the 'baab' part, not applicable)

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Sent: 24 June 2024 07:32
To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
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Dear Joao Baab

As a dedicated researcher and academician, I always strive to maintain 
objectivity and neutrality. My goal is to uncover facts and present them in 
their most authentic form. I am driven solely by the spirit of research and not 
by any political agenda. Rest assured of my impartiality.

Thank you, and I sincerely appreciate and share your concern.

I am only trying to take forward my writer-father, Mahableshwar Sail's legacy!

Regards

Smita Sail

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 11:50 PM Joao Paulo Cota 
mailto:joao_c...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Smita,
I am curious about this research of yours.
Sorry to be blunt but has this got to do with the BJP's grand fundamentalist 
plan to find out which temples were allegedly destroyed by the Portuguese in 
Goa and then make an agenda to destroy any churches and rebuilt these temples, 
Ayodhya style?
Too many secret project going on behind people's backs, so it is good to know 
if that is the ultimate aim of this research.
Kind regards,
Joao Paulo Cota


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mailto:goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>> 
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Subject: Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

Dear Katharina
Thanks for responding.
Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in different 
scripts.
We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial Goan 
Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th and 17th 
century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey and Phase 2 
will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us with our research.
We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be groundbreaking 
if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.

Thank you.
Regards
Smita Sail

On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar, 
mailto:kpka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha

Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail 
mailto:smitams...@gmail.com>>:

Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.

On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
mailto:joao_c...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese India 
related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.

  *
Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military related 
documents
  *
Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of general 
government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
  *
Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
  *
One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related 
publications

Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held in 
London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what books 
and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one in the world 
in private hands.
All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
Regards.
Joao Paulo


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Dear all,

Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does anyone 
know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals or 
institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa 
University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?

Regards
Dr Smita Sail
Chair, Dept of English
Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
Mobile:8904632400




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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[albert . ro]

/I am curious about this research of yours…agenda to destroy any  
churches//…..Too many secret project going on behind people's  
backs,…etc…. Joao Paulo Cota./


This is abject intimidation.//

Dear Smita

Beware of the minority Christian extremists - MCE - who abandoned Goa  
after Liberation. Any research you undertake into the true history of  
Goa, before the arrival of the pirates, will be considered pro-BJP by  
them. MCEs prefer lies. Smita, do not be afraid of the work you are  
doing to uncover the history of the Konkan Coast. These MECs can no  
longer intimidate the Indian people or the Portuguese people. I am a  
history teacher in Portugal and as such I strongly advise you to  
continue your work.


Good luck.

Alberto

- Mensagem de Joao Paulo Cota  -

 Data: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:34:09 +

 De: Joao Paulo Cota 

 Assunto: Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

 Para: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com


Dear Smita,

I am curious about this research of yours.

Sorry to be blunt but has this got to do with the BJP's grand  
fundamentalist plan to find out which temples were allegedly  
destroyed by the Portuguese in Goa and then make an agenda to  
destroy any churches and rebuilt these temples, Ayodhya style?


Too many secret project going on behind people's backs, so it is  
good to know if that is the ultimate aim of this research. 


Kind regards,

Joao Paulo Cota

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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Thank you for your helpful response.
Regards
Smita Sail

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:37 PM John de Figueiredo 
wrote:

> Hello Smita,
> Pre-Portuguese manuscripts were probably written on leaves of banana trees
> and kept in bundles. If they still exist, you may find them outside Goa in
> places like Kerala. In Goa itself they are more likely to exist in
> districts other than Ilhas, Bardez, and Salsete. You have to make sure they
> are authentic and not apocryphal.
> Best wishes,
> John M. de Figueiredo
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 23, 2024, at 5:53 AM, smita sail  wrote:
>
> 
> Dear Katharina
> Thanks for responding.
> Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in
> different scripts.
> We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial
> Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th
> and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey
> and Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us
> with our research.
> We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be
> groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.
>
> Thank you.
> Regards
> Smita Sail
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar, 
> wrote:
>
>> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
>>
>> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail <
>> smitams...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese
 India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.

- Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
related documents
- Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
- Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
- One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan
related publications

 Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books
 held in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief
 what books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest
 one in the world in private hands.
 All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
 Regards.
 Joao Paulo

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 *Subject:* [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

 Dear all,

 Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
 anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
 or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
 University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?

 Regards
 Dr Smita Sail
 Chair, Dept of English
 Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
 Mobile:8904632400



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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Thank you for your response, professor! I will work on that and share it
soon. In fact our scope of study will be greatly determined by the kind of
manuscripts we can gather.
Regards
Smita Sail

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:39 PM William Robert Da Silva 
wrote:

> Why don't you clarify in a write up in which direction you want to go
> in Goa and the archives will become relevant with your direction of
> work. Have a sufficiently long clarification of the direction of your
> work.
> With best wishes for your work,
> William Robert Da Silva
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:23 PM smita sail  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Katharina
> > Thanks for responding.
> > Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in
> different scripts.
> > We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct
> pre-colonial Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study
> later on of 16th and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere
> epistemological survey and Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing
> those that will help us with our research.
> > We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be
> groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Regards
> > Smita Sail
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar, <
> kpka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
> >>
> >> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
> wrote:
> 
>  There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old
> Portuguese India related documents and they are housed in the right
> buildings.
> 
>  Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
> related documents
>  Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
> general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
>  Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
>  One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related
> publications
> 
>  Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books
> held in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief
> what books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest
> one in the world in private hands.
>  All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
>  Regards.
>  Joao Paulo
> 
>  
>  From: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: 20 June 2024 09:18
>  To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>
>  Subject: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
> 
>  Dear all,
> 
>  Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
> or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
> University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?
> 
>  Regards
>  Dr Smita Sail
>  Chair, Dept of English
>  Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
>  Mobile:8904632400
> 
> 
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Thank you so much for sharing this article with me.
Regards
Smita Sail

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:38 PM  wrote:

> Smita
>
>
> Maybe this link will help.
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43539-023-00091-3
>
> This paper argues that nationalist ideology influenced the writings of
> Goan elites who joined their Indian counterparts. The latter glorified the
> pre-modern history, literature, art, and architecture of India as a
> response to the colonial assertions of its superiority. In the case of Goa,
> the colonial authorities propounded the concept of Goa Dourada, or golden
> Goa under Portuguese rule. The local elites countered this concept through
> ‘Goa Indica’, thus exhibiting the relationship of colonial Goa with
> colonial India. In the process, the scholars such as Menezes Braganza,
> Panduranga Pissurlencar, and Adeatado Baretto discussed the contribution of
> ancient Indians to the field of science and technology. The glorification
> of ancient Indian science and technology contributed to the rise of
> ‘pseudo-science’, which is considered a byproduct of the anti-colonial
> movement. However, the rise of ‘pseudo-science’ was an unavoidable
> development, particularly in the colonial period. The Goan historians,
> while reconstructing the history of science, followed their counterparts in
> British India to show that Goa was a part of India. Scholars were able to
> achieve national unity in the pre and post-colonial periods by studying
> science and technology.
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Thank you so much for that information. If the project is sanctioned, we
shall have enough funds to explore!

Regards
Smita Sail

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:48 PM sandra lobo  wrote:

> Dear Smita,
>
> For the colonial period you would also need to investigate in Portuguese
> libraries and archives, among others the Torre do Tombo and Arquivo
> Histórico Ultramarino.
>
> Kind wishes,
>
> Sandra
>
>
>
> Sandra Ataíde Lobo
>
>
> Home (gieipc-ip.org) <https://www.gieipc-ip.org/>
>   https://praticasdahistoria.pt/
>
> tmn. ++351 930690459
>
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> *De:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
> em nome de William Robert Da Silva 
> *Enviado:* 23 de junho de 2024 11:38
> *Para:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>
> *Assunto:* Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
>
> Why don't you clarify in a write up in which direction you want to go
> in Goa and the archives will become relevant with your direction of
> work. Have a sufficiently long clarification of the direction of your
> work.
> With best wishes for your work,
> William Robert Da Silva
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:23 PM smita sail  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Katharina
> > Thanks for responding.
> > Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in
> different scripts.
> > We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct
> pre-colonial Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study
> later on of 16th and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere
> epistemological survey and Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing
> those that will help us with our research.
> > We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be
> groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Regards
> > Smita Sail
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar, <
> kpka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
> >>
> >> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old
> Portuguese India related documents and they are housed in the right
> buildings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
> related documents
> >>>> Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
> general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
> >>>> Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
> >>>> One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related
> publications
> >>>>
> >>>> Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books
> held in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief
> what books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest
> one in the world in private hands.
> >>>> All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
> >>>> Regards.
> >>>> Joao Paulo
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> From: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Sent: 20 June 2024 09:18
> >>>> To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
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> >>>> Subject: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
> or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
> University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Dr Smita Sail
> >>>> Chair, Dept of English
> >>>> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> >>>> Mobile:8904632400
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Dear Joao Baab

As a dedicated researcher and academician, I always strive to maintain
objectivity and neutrality. My goal is to uncover facts and present them in
their most authentic form. I am driven solely by the spirit of research and
not by any political agenda. Rest assured of my impartiality.

Thank you, and I sincerely appreciate and share your concern.

I am only trying to take forward my writer-father,
Mahableshwar Sail's legacy!

Regards

Smita Sail

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 11:50 PM Joao Paulo Cota 
wrote:

> Dear Smita,
> I am curious about this research of yours.
> Sorry to be blunt but has this got to do with the BJP's grand
> fundamentalist plan to find out which temples were allegedly destroyed by
> the Portuguese in Goa and then make an agenda to destroy any churches and
> rebuilt these temples, Ayodhya style?
> Too many secret project going on behind people's backs, so it is good to
> know if that is the ultimate aim of this research.
> Kind regards,
> Joao Paulo Cota
>
> --
> *From:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 23 June 2024 06:23
> *To:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com  >
> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
>
> Dear Katharina
> Thanks for responding.
> Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in
> different scripts.
> We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial
> Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th
> and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey
> and Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us
> with our research.
> We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be
> groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.
>
> Thank you.
> Regards
> Smita Sail
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar, 
> wrote:
>
> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
>
> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>:
>
> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
>
> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
> wrote:
>
> There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese
> India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.
>
>- Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
>related documents
>- Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
>general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
>- Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
>- One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related
>publications
>
> Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held
> in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what
> books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one in
> the world in private hands.
> All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
> Regards.
> Joao Paulo
>
> --
> *From:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 20 June 2024 09:18
> *To:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com  >
> *Subject:* [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
>
> Dear all,
>
> Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
> or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
> University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?
>
> Regards
> Dr Smita Sail
> Chair, Dept of English
> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> Mobile:8904632400
>
>
>
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[Joao Paulo Cota]

Dear Smita,
I am curious about this research of yours.
Sorry to be blunt but has this got to do with the BJP's grand fundamentalist 
plan to find out which temples were allegedly destroyed by the Portuguese in 
Goa and then make an agenda to destroy any churches and rebuilt these temples, 
Ayodhya style?
Too many secret project going on behind people's backs, so it is good to know 
if that is the ultimate aim of this research.
Kind regards,
Joao Paulo Cota


From: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of smita sail 
Sent: 23 June 2024 06:23
To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

Dear Katharina
Thanks for responding.
Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in different 
scripts.
We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial Goan 
Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th and 17th 
century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey and Phase 2 
will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us with our research.
We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be groundbreaking 
if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.

Thank you.
Regards
Smita Sail

On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar, 
mailto:kpka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha

Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail 
mailto:smitams...@gmail.com>>:

Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.

On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
mailto:joao_c...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese India 
related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.

  *
Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military related 
documents
  *
Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of general 
government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
  *
Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
  *
One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related 
publications

Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held in 
London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what books 
and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one in the world 
in private hands.
All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
Regards.
Joao Paulo


From: 
goa-research-net@googlegroups.com<mailto:goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>> 
on behalf of smita sail mailto:smitams...@gmail.com>>
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To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com<mailto:goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

Dear all,

Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does anyone 
know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals or 
institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa 
University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?

Regards
Dr Smita Sail
Chair, Dept of English
Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
Mobile:8904632400




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RE: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[sandra lobo]

Dear Smita,

For the colonial period you would also need to investigate in Portuguese 
libraries and archives, among others the Torre do Tombo and Arquivo Histórico 
Ultramarino.

Kind wishes,

Sandra




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De: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com  em 
nome de William Robert Da Silva 
Enviado: 23 de junho de 2024 11:38
Para: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
Assunto: Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

Why don't you clarify in a write up in which direction you want to go
in Goa and the archives will become relevant with your direction of
work. Have a sufficiently long clarification of the direction of your
work.
With best wishes for your work,
William Robert Da Silva

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:23 PM smita sail  wrote:
>
> Dear Katharina
> Thanks for responding.
> Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in 
> different scripts.
> We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial 
> Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th 
> and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey and 
> Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us with 
> our research.
> We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be 
> groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.
>
> Thank you.
> Regards
> Smita Sail
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar,  
> wrote:
>>
>> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
>>
>> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail :
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese 
>>>> India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.
>>>>
>>>> Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military related 
>>>> documents
>>>> Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of general 
>>>> government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
>>>> Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
>>>> One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related 
>>>> publications
>>>>
>>>> Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held 
>>>> in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what 
>>>> books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one 
>>>> in the world in private hands.
>>>> All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Joao Paulo
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
>>>>  on behalf of smita sail 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent: 20 June 2024 09:18
>>>> To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does 
>>>> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by 
>>>> individuals or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central 
>>>> Library, Goa University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those 
>>>> cataloged?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Dr Smita Sail
>>>> Chair, Dept of English
>>>> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
>>>> Mobile:8904632400
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[William Robert Da Silva]

Why don't you clarify in a write up in which direction you want to go
in Goa and the archives will become relevant with your direction of
work. Have a sufficiently long clarification of the direction of your
work.
With best wishes for your work,
William Robert Da Silva

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:23 PM smita sail  wrote:
>
> Dear Katharina
> Thanks for responding.
> Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in 
> different scripts.
> We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial 
> Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th 
> and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey and 
> Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us with 
> our research.
> We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be 
> groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.
>
> Thank you.
> Regards
> Smita Sail
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar,  
> wrote:
>>
>> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
>>
>> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail :
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota,  wrote:

 There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese 
 India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.

 Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military related 
 documents
 Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of general 
 government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
 Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
 One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related 
 publications

 Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held 
 in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what 
 books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one 
 in the world in private hands.
 All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
 Regards.
 Joao Paulo

 
 From: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
  on behalf of smita sail 
 
 Sent: 20 June 2024 09:18
 To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

 Dear all,

 Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does 
 anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by 
 individuals or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central 
 Library, Goa University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those 
 cataloged?

 Regards
 Dr Smita Sail
 Chair, Dept of English
 Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
 Mobile:8904632400



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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[albert . ro]

Smita

Maybe this link will help.  

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43539-023-00091-3

This paper argues that nationalist ideology influenced the writings of  
Goan elites who joined their Indian counterparts. The latter glorified  
the pre-modern history, literature, art, and architecture of India as  
a response to the colonial assertions of its superiority. In the case  
of Goa, the colonial authorities propounded the concept of Goa  
Dourada, or golden Goa under Portuguese rule. The local elites  
countered this concept through ‘Goa Indica’, thus exhibiting the  
relationship of colonial Goa with colonial India. In the process, the  
scholars such as Menezes Braganza, Panduranga Pissurlencar, and  
Adeatado Baretto discussed the contribution of ancient Indians to the  
field of science and technology. The glorification of ancient Indian  
science and technology contributed to the rise of ‘pseudo-science’,  
which is considered a byproduct of the anti-colonial movement.  
However, the rise of ‘pseudo-science’ was an unavoidable development,  
particularly in the colonial period. The Goan historians, while  
reconstructing the history of science, followed their counterparts in  
British India to show that Goa was a part of India. Scholars were able  
to achieve national unity in the pre and post-colonial periods by  
studying science and technology.


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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[John de Figueiredo]

Hello Smita,Pre-Portuguese manuscripts were probably written on leaves of banana trees and kept in bundles. If they still exist, you may find them outside Goa in places like Kerala. In Goa itself they are more likely to exist in districts other than Ilhas, Bardez, and Salsete. You have to make sure they are authentic and not apocryphal.Best wishes,John M. de Figueiredo Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 23, 2024, at 5:53 AM, smita sail  wrote:Dear KatharinaThanks for responding. Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in different scripts. We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey and Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us with our research. We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era. Thank you.Regards Smita SailOn Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar,  wrote:hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, KathaAm Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail :Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab. 
On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota,  wrote:






There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.



Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military related documents


Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books


Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents


One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related publications


Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one in the world in private hands.

All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.

Regards.

Joao Paulo





From: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com  on behalf of smita sail 
Sent: 20 June 2024 09:18
To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
 


Dear all, 


Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
 University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?



Regards
Dr Smita Sail
Chair, Dept of English
Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
Mobile:8904632400















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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Dear Katharina
Thanks for responding.
Manuscripts in any script would do. Preferably Konkani manuscripts in
different scripts.
We are looking for Manuscripts that will help us reconstruct pre-colonial
Goan Cultural landscape and also make a comparative study later on of 16th
and 17th century. Phase 1 of the project is a mere epistemological survey
and Phase 2 will be about examining a d analysing those that will help us
with our research.
We have no records of any manuscripts prior to 1520. It will be
groundbreaking if we can trace anything that belongs to pre-Portuguese era.

Thank you.
Regards
Smita Sail

On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:02 Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar, 
wrote:

> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
>
> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese
>>> India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.
>>>
>>>- Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
>>>related documents
>>>- Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
>>>general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
>>>- Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
>>>- One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan
>>>related publications
>>>
>>> Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books
>>> held in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief
>>> what books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest
>>> one in the world in private hands.
>>> All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
>>> Regards.
>>> Joao Paulo
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
>>> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
>>> or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
>>> University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Dr Smita Sail
>>> Chair, Dept of English
>>> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
>>> Mobile:8904632400
>>>
>>>
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Thank you for that lead! Will try!

On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 04:23 Frederick Noronha, 
wrote:

> Two publicly-accessible papers.. one which might be of direct interest to
> those studying Goa.The other which reminds us of the complexities of
> language in South Asia, Goa included. In Goa itself, some very rich
> archives are going unstudied partly because of recent language shifts
> witnessed here over the past decades and the last century, and also because
> not enough local studies are happening here. See the attachments below. FN
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 at 04:02, Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar <
> kpka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha
>>
>> Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail <
>> smitams...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese
 India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.

- Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
related documents
- Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
- Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
- One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan
related publications

 Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books
 held in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief
 what books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest
 one in the world in private hands.
 All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
 Regards.
 Joao Paulo

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 goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>
 *Subject:* [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

 Dear all,

 Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
 anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
 or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
 University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?

 Regards
 Dr Smita Sail
 Chair, Dept of English
 Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
 Mobile:8904632400



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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[Katharina Poggendorf-Kakar]

hi smita, what kind of manuscripts are you looking for? regards, Katha

Am Sa., 22. Juni 2024 um 16:14 Uhr schrieb smita sail :

> Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.
>
> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota, 
> wrote:
>
>> There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese
>> India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.
>>
>>- Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
>>related documents
>>- Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
>>general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
>>- Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
>>- One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan
>>related publications
>>
>> Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books
>> held in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief
>> what books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest
>> one in the world in private hands.
>> All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
>> Regards.
>> Joao Paulo
>>
>> --
>> *From:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
>> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of smita sail <
>> smitams...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* 20 June 2024 09:18
>> *To:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
>> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
>> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
>> or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
>> University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?
>>
>> Regards
>> Dr Smita Sail
>> Chair, Dept of English
>> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
>> Mobile:8904632400
>>
>>
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[Frederick Noronha]

Try Partagal Matt.
Or any of the old Goa-based trading houses.
FN

On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 at 21:57, smita sail  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
> or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
> University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?
>
> Regards
> Dr Smita Sail
> Chair, Dept of English
> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> Mobile:8904632400
>
>
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[smita sail]

Thank you so much for that piece of information, Joao baab.

On Fri, 21 Jun, 2024, 06:38 Joao Paulo Cota,  wrote:

> There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese
> India related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.
>
>- Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military
>related documents
>- Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of
>general government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
>- Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
>- One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related
>publications
>
> Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held
> in London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what
> books and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one in
> the world in private hands.
> All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
> Regards.
> Joao Paulo
>
> --
> *From:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <
> goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of smita sail <
> smitams...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 20 June 2024 09:18
> *To:* goa-research-net@googlegroups.com  >
> *Subject:* [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts
>
> Dear all,
>
> Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does
> anyone know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals
> or institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa
> University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?
>
> Regards
> Dr Smita Sail
> Chair, Dept of English
> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
> Mobile:8904632400
>
>
>
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Re: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

[Joao Paulo Cota]

There are quite a few institutions in Portugal that have old Portuguese India 
related documents and they are housed in the right buildings.

  *
Museu da Marinha in Lisbon has a wealth of maritime and military related 
documents
  *
Museu Ultramarino in Alcantara (suburbs of Lisbon) has a lot of general 
government colonial era documents, manuscripts and books
  *
Torre to Tombo has more ancient documents
  *
One of the large Coimbra libraries has some interesting Goan related 
publications

Besides there is a large private library mostly related to Goan books held in 
London, afraid I cannot give out details. It is just beyond belief what books 
and other publications they have there. Definitely the largest one in the world 
in private hands.
All I can say is that it is not open to public, it is very private.
Regards.
Joao Paulo


From: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of smita sail 
Sent: 20 June 2024 09:18
To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [GRN] Seeking help in tracing Goa related manuscripts

Dear all,

Any form of help regarding the following will be highly valued: Does anyone 
know of any manuscripts in private possession or held by individuals or 
institutions, apart from those in the Goa Archives, Central Library, Goa 
University, and St. Xavier's Research Centre or those cataloged?

Regards
Dr Smita Sail
Chair, Dept of English
Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham
Mobile:8904632400




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