Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies

2002-04-23 Thread santoshhelekar

Sunila wrote:

Boil water with a handful of coriander and cummin (jeera) seeds. 
Strain and  cool down.

No time to write the book, but if anybody is really interested in 
doing so, Good Luck.


Paddy wrote:

I am curious if anyone has similar or other experiences and if there 
is any ascribable reason for their relief. Santosh usually offers 
valuable insight on such matters :-)



I was thoroughly amused by Paddy's reminiscences of a breach boy 
stomping on somebody's aching back. It certainly beats mine of a 6 
year-old being chased around the house by a tyrannical (in a loving 
sort of way) grandmother with a can of hingachem aajuth in her 
thick firm hands. That is one instance of childhood trauma that I 
must admit I love to reminisce with great fondness. 

I would like to extend Paddy's and Sunila's wonderful lists of home 
remedies with the following nostrums from my late grandmother's IRCP 
(Independent Republic of Chimbel Pharmacopeia). Besides the monthly 
pure Shankarchhaap hingachem aajuth (Shankar brand asafoetida warm 
water enema), there was the weekly (every Sunday morning) 
kiraitiachem kodu vokhoth (medicated bitter water drained from boiled 
kiraitem leaves). These were supposed to flush the alimentary canal 
clean at both its unruly ends. But there were times when even these 
well-guarded ends did not justify the meals. For such occasions my 
grandma had the aalem-limbacho ros (ground ginger in lime juice with 
added salt). I now use this concoction as an appetizer, because if 
you ever need an excuse to eat something, believe me a taste of this 
juice in your mouth provides you one.

For headaches, there was the soonth kaadop (paste of dried ginger 
smeared on the forehead). As it turns out, I have formed a Pavlovian 
association between the smell of soonth and my grandmother's face. 
She would have this stuff plastered on her forehead almost every 
evening, a small wonder after having spent the day haggling over the 
catch of the day with itinerant fisherwomen. 

There were of course the ubiquitous hot compresses and laying of cold 
hands, along with the mini-exorcisms (disht kaadop - some dried red 
chillies and salt drawn around the head and body, and then thrown 
away). And then there was the ganjanacho kasai (lemon grass tea). 
This one I liked. But it was reserved for the common cold with cough. 

I will end this post by mentioning one whose appeal to common 
intuition I have never been able to figure out. I think it was used 
when I was really sick and bedridden. It involved tying a few cloves 
of garlic in a knot around my belly. This, coupled with the no-bath-
when-sick policy imposed on me, meant I stank of garlic for quite a 
while afterwards. I always had the nagging suspicion that this was 
meant to ground me for a few days. My grandparents couldn't bear to 
see me play.

Thinking about these ancestral home remedies as a grown man with some 
education and with some ability to reason, I would have to conclude 
that these wonderful treatments are more of nostalgic than 
therapeutic value, unless of course you are of the type for whom 
nostalgia is panacea.

It would be such a pleasure to read a compilation of Goan folk 
remedies. 

Cheers,

Santosh




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2002-04-23 Thread Ulysses Menezes - GOA-WORLD

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 Table of Contents 
 List of illustrations  
 Preface 
 
1 Elements of Goa's Individuality 1 
 Idyll to Grandeur to Idyll 1 
 Sacred Imperialism 1 
 Catholic Universalism 4 
 Pioneer Westernization of the Non-Western World 8 
2 Neo-Roman Architecture 12 
 Idiom of Neo-Roman: the Five Orders of Architecture
12 
 Styles of Architecture: Romanesque, Gothic and
Neo-Roman 16 
3 Types of Church and Altar 27 
 Types of Church: Hall Church, Greek Cross-Domed
Church, Diminuted Sanctuary Church 27 
 Types of Altar: Iconostasis, Aedicule Retable, Trono
28 
4 Evolution of Church Architecture: Four Periods 31 
 Implantation of the Neo-Roman Style (1510-50) 31 
 Genesis of the Indian Style and Maturity of the
European (1550-1760) 32 
 Maturity of the Indian Style (1660-1760) 34 
 Finale of the Indian and European Styles (1760-1850)
35 
5 European Models in the Metropolis 36 
 The Se, Goa's Cathedral, 1562-1651, in Velha Goa 36 
 Nossa Senhora da Divina Providencia, of S. Caetano
Monastery, 1656-61, in Velha Goa 43 
6 Sepulchral Shrine and Tragic Ruin 58 
 Bom Jesus, 1594-1605, and the Tomb of Xavier, in
Velha Goa 58 
 Nossa Senhora da Grace 1597-1602, and St.,
Augustine's Tower in Velha Goa 67 
7 The Indian Baroque Quintet 72 
 Espirito Santo, 1661-8, in Velha Goa 72 
 Espirito Santo, 1675-84, at Margao 79 
 Santana, 1681-95, at Talaulim 81 
 Nossa Senhora da Piedade, 1699-1727, at Divar 84 
 Santo Estevao, 1759, at Jua 86 
 Practical Information 91 
 Glossary 96 
 Furhter Reading 104 



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[Goanet] Fwd: Goan Website Hit by VV (Virus Veronica)

2002-04-23 Thread Shanon Gonsalves



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Goan Website Hit by VV  (Virus Veronica)

Dear Web-Editor and all you wonderful people!
Evidently  Veronica’s web reports prove a source of dreadful viral 
contamination to our great Goan website and spirit.   Today’s world news is 
rife with terrorism, tension, sadness and sorrow. So much similar is the 
mental destruction spread by people like  Veronica - accomplice de facto??  
  A view of this site rakes up the most inferior mudsling language rampant 
with vulgarity, defamation and garbage.   More intriguing is, a popular 
site such as this levies no censorship of the low-calibre contribution.   
Perhaps one would conclude that the writing of such psyched writers 
associate with their personality projection.  Sadly, Veronica is still 
shrouded in the obscurity of his thoughts oblivious of the pain caused to 
the Goan heart.
Words once expressed cannot be recaptured by the fastest steed!!!  Humanly 
like  Veronica, others too get judgmental.  Why break, why not build?  
Symbolically speaking why does this contemporary Cain always get into the 
act of killing Abel, his Goan brother.

It is clichéd – the plume is mightier than the sword ?

Veronica, this paragraph is now dedicated to you in the generosity and 
kindness of the Goan spirit.   Behold how good and how pleasant it is for 
brothers to dwell in unity.   Celebrate the goodness of Goa and brethren. 
Uplift than strike down.

I thought that VERONICA was given the imprint of JESUS face but you carry 
the imprint of SATAN.

Well now the breaking news is that I heard that the main person behind all 
these articles is the stale fish (imsan) of Colva. A frustrated man that he 
is, works for a bank in Kuwait who schemes and plots to kill. A real BLACK 
COBRA by nature with jealousy venom causes evil where ever he crawls, 
started with NGOA, then Goa Maroons and lastly deserted by his own village 
club. This shady confused-looking character ‘imsan’ is the actual devious 
mind behind all ‘your’ filthy emails. And you, Mr V, do you realize that 
‘imsan’ is making you a scapegoat!  How foolish can you get while ‘imsan’ 
protects his image with all that cyborg baloney for the benefit of his own 
publicity, you are exposed with all gutter language and thinking. ‘Imsan” 
would do anything to uplift  his brother even if it has to be at the cost 
of these cheap and filthy ways, but it’s a pity  that “imsan” brother 
solicits help for lyrics, songs, play and skits from famous directors, now, 
now we naturally know ‘imsan’ is your good friend and ‘imsan’ will resort 
solely to your substandard writing to uplift his brother at any negative 
cost. Such thug-ism !!!
And yes, all applause to the Sounstha group !!!   Some allergy that you 
three musketeers have – Sounstha went right ahead establishing their 
tiatrist association. How fortunate that ‘imsan’ and brother were 
intentionally cordoned off.   And there you go again, reason for another of 
your email stinkers, this time targeting Sounstha – more gutter language – 
truly a viscous circle. We know your game too well now !  Why not channel 
your energy to constructive matters – for example, defending our Konkani 
basha. Hats off to our tiatrists, who at the frontline risk their image to 
frankly deliver a message through the art of drama and song.If it could 
so be termed as courage or skill why do you not see this as good material 
for your writing – to uphold, to compliment, to boost, to enjoy, to be 
entertained –then why do you brand them as ‘rostad’?

Before I end a small peace of advice to you Veronica and that is, you must 
know in true faith that there exists a power above the might of the plume 
or sword – the power of prayer.   Pray before and after you launch your 
article – it will make a world of a difference    Let the past be 
history, the present be a reality to hail your forthcoming articles in the 
true goodness of our Goan vision.
Now to you Web Masters with me many others would like youll to ban Veronica 
bad language as it will only spoil goan image, and of course the name, 
image, reputation your website hold.


SHANON.G





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2002-04-23 Thread Shanon Gonsalves


JUST WANTED TO CHECK AS TO HOW TO POST AN ARTICLE ON THE WEBSITE


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Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies

2002-04-23 Thread Sunila Muzawar

Wonderful posting, Doc. I laughed and laughed.
Thanks,
Sunila


From: santoshhelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:37:05 -

Sunila wrote:
 
 Boil water with a handful of coriander and cummin (jeera) seeds.
 Strain and  cool down.
 
 No time to write the book, but if anybody is really interested in
 doing so, Good Luck.
 

Paddy wrote:
 
 I am curious if anyone has similar or other experiences and if there
 is any ascribable reason for their relief. Santosh usually offers
 valuable insight on such matters :-)
 


I was thoroughly amused by Paddy's reminiscences of a breach boy
stomping on somebody's aching back. It certainly beats mine of a 6
year-old being chased around the house by a tyrannical (in a loving
sort of way) grandmother with a can of hingachem aajuth in her
thick firm hands. That is one instance of childhood trauma that I
must admit I love to reminisce with great fondness.

I would like to extend Paddy's and Sunila's wonderful lists of home
remedies with the following nostrums from my late grandmother's IRCP
(Independent Republic of Chimbel Pharmacopeia). Besides the monthly
pure Shankarchhaap hingachem aajuth (Shankar brand asafoetida warm
water enema), there was the weekly (every Sunday morning)
kiraitiachem kodu vokhoth (medicated bitter water drained from boiled
kiraitem leaves). These were supposed to flush the alimentary canal
clean at both its unruly ends. But there were times when even these
well-guarded ends did not justify the meals. For such occasions my
grandma had the aalem-limbacho ros (ground ginger in lime juice with
added salt). I now use this concoction as an appetizer, because if
you ever need an excuse to eat something, believe me a taste of this
juice in your mouth provides you one.

For headaches, there was the soonth kaadop (paste of dried ginger
smeared on the forehead). As it turns out, I have formed a Pavlovian
association between the smell of soonth and my grandmother's face.
She would have this stuff plastered on her forehead almost every
evening, a small wonder after having spent the day haggling over the
catch of the day with itinerant fisherwomen.

There were of course the ubiquitous hot compresses and laying of cold
hands, along with the mini-exorcisms (disht kaadop - some dried red
chillies and salt drawn around the head and body, and then thrown
away). And then there was the ganjanacho kasai (lemon grass tea).
This one I liked. But it was reserved for the common cold with cough.

I will end this post by mentioning one whose appeal to common
intuition I have never been able to figure out. I think it was used
when I was really sick and bedridden. It involved tying a few cloves
of garlic in a knot around my belly. This, coupled with the no-bath-
when-sick policy imposed on me, meant I stank of garlic for quite a
while afterwards. I always had the nagging suspicion that this was
meant to ground me for a few days. My grandparents couldn't bear to
see me play.

Thinking about these ancestral home remedies as a grown man with some
education and with some ability to reason, I would have to conclude
that these wonderful treatments are more of nostalgic than
therapeutic value, unless of course you are of the type for whom
nostalgia is panacea.

It would be such a pleasure to read a compilation of Goan folk
remedies.

Cheers,

Santosh



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goanet-digest V1 #3871

2002-04-23 Thread goanet-digest


goanet-digest Tuesday, April 23 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3871



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Re: [Goanet] Kidnapping victim rescued - Almost Live Report
[Goanet] LINK: Anti-bullfight movement in Portugal
[Goanet] Churches of Goa 
Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies
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[Goanet] Fwd: Goan Website Hit by VV (Virus Veronica)

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: bernadine decosta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Kidnapping victim rescued - Almost Live Report

Hello Cecil,

That was a nice live report -  it should be translated
into Konkani for a Goan tiatr which you can partner
with any tiatrist.

Have a nice day.

Bernadine

- --- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are standing here outside Boston Public, Boston,
 USA. A school made
 famous by David E. Kelly. But what has drawn the
 crowds here today is the
 building opposite where a young man has been rescued
 from a brazen
 kidnapping. There he is now being brought out my the
 medicos in a
 stretcher. None other than our very own Herman
 Carneiro. The Unofficial
 Herman Carneiro Fan Club has turned up in full
 strength with a Goan Brass
 Band and some sexy cheerleaders. As Herman's
 stretcher is brought out they
 break into their chant...
 
 Herman is da man
 Herman is da man
 What's others can't do
 Herman cn
 Yaay!
 


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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:54:16 +0530 (IST)
From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] LINK: Anti-bullfight movement in Portugal

For those who might be interested...

- -- Forwarded message --

MATP-MOVIMENTO ANTI-TOURADAS DE PORTUGAL
ANTIBULLFIGHTING MOVEMENT OF PORTUGAL
MOVIMIENTO ANTITAURINO PORTUGU=C9S
MOUVEMENT ANTI-CORRIDAS DE PORTUGAL
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Some recent news (for those who can read Italian)
http://www.larena.it/storico/20020421/provincia/Dad.htm

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 00:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ulysses Menezes - GOA-WORLD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Churches of Goa 

Churches of Goa 
Jose Pereira


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FROM THE BOOK


 Table of Contents 
 List of illustrations  
 Preface 
 
1 Elements of Goa's Individuality 1 
 Idyll to Grandeur to Idyll 1 
 Sacred Imperialism 1 
 Catholic Universalism 4 
 Pioneer Westernization of the Non-Western World 8 
2 Neo-Roman Architecture 12 
 Idiom of Neo-Roman: the Five Orders of Architecture
12 
 Styles of Architecture: Romanesque, Gothic and
Neo-Roman 16 
3 Types of Church and Altar 27 
 Types of Church: Hall Church, Greek Cross-Domed
Church, Diminuted Sanctuary Church 27 
 Types of Altar: Iconostasis, Aedicule Retable, Trono
28 
4 Evolution of Church Architecture: Four Periods 31 
 Implantation of the Neo-Roman Style (1510-50) 31 
 Genesis of the Indian Style and Maturity of the
European (1550-1760) 32 
 Maturity of the Indian Style (1660-1760) 34 
 Finale of the Indian and European Styles (1760-1850)
35 
5 European Models in the Metropolis 36 
 The Se, Goa's Cathedral, 1562-1651, in Velha Goa 36 
 Nossa Senhora da Divina Providencia, of S. Caetano
Monastery, 1656-61, in Velha Goa 43 
6 Sepulchral Shrine and Tragic Ruin 58 
 Bom Jesus, 1594-1605, and the Tomb of Xavier, in
Velha Goa 58 
 Nossa Senhora da Grace 1597-1602, and St.,
Augustine's Tower in Velha Goa 67 
7 The Indian Baroque Quintet 72 
 Espirito Santo, 1661-8, in Velha Goa 72 
 Espirito Santo, 1675-84, at Margao 79 
 Santana, 1681-95, at Talaulim 81 
 Nossa Senhora da Piedade, 1699-1727, at Divar 84 
 Santo Estevao, 1759, at Jua 86 
 Practical Information 91 
 Glossary 96 
 Furhter Reading 104 



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goanet-digest V1 #3872

2002-04-23 Thread goanet-digest


goanet-digest Tuesday, April 23 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3872



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Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies
[Goanet] Kidnapping victim rescued - Almost Live Report
Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies
[Goanet] 50 per cent cut  Long Distance telephony call rates.
[Goanet] Found this on goabjp.com
[Goanet] Alishka - Ashley - Hats off!!!
[Goanet] re: Ancestral remedies  Santosh

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:50:50 +0400
From: Sunila Muzawar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies

Wonderful posting, Doc. I laughed and laughed.
Thanks,
Sunila


From: santoshhelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:37:05 -

Sunila wrote:
 
 Boil water with a handful of coriander and cummin (jeera) seeds.
 Strain and  cool down.
 
 No time to write the book, but if anybody is really interested in
 doing so, Good Luck.
 

Paddy wrote:
 
 I am curious if anyone has similar or other experiences and if there
 is any ascribable reason for their relief. Santosh usually offers
 valuable insight on such matters :-)
 


I was thoroughly amused by Paddy's reminiscences of a breach boy
stomping on somebody's aching back. It certainly beats mine of a 6
year-old being chased around the house by a tyrannical (in a loving
sort of way) grandmother with a can of hingachem aajuth in her
thick firm hands. That is one instance of childhood trauma that I
must admit I love to reminisce with great fondness.

I would like to extend Paddy's and Sunila's wonderful lists of home
remedies with the following nostrums from my late grandmother's IRCP
(Independent Republic of Chimbel Pharmacopeia). Besides the monthly
pure Shankarchhaap hingachem aajuth (Shankar brand asafoetida warm
water enema), there was the weekly (every Sunday morning)
kiraitiachem kodu vokhoth (medicated bitter water drained from boiled
kiraitem leaves). These were supposed to flush the alimentary canal
clean at both its unruly ends. But there were times when even these
well-guarded ends did not justify the meals. For such occasions my
grandma had the aalem-limbacho ros (ground ginger in lime juice with
added salt). I now use this concoction as an appetizer, because if
you ever need an excuse to eat something, believe me a taste of this
juice in your mouth provides you one.

For headaches, there was the soonth kaadop (paste of dried ginger
smeared on the forehead). As it turns out, I have formed a Pavlovian
association between the smell of soonth and my grandmother's face.
She would have this stuff plastered on her forehead almost every
evening, a small wonder after having spent the day haggling over the
catch of the day with itinerant fisherwomen.

There were of course the ubiquitous hot compresses and laying of cold
hands, along with the mini-exorcisms (disht kaadop - some dried red
chillies and salt drawn around the head and body, and then thrown
away). And then there was the ganjanacho kasai (lemon grass tea).
This one I liked. But it was reserved for the common cold with cough.

I will end this post by mentioning one whose appeal to common
intuition I have never been able to figure out. I think it was used
when I was really sick and bedridden. It involved tying a few cloves
of garlic in a knot around my belly. This, coupled with the no-bath-
when-sick policy imposed on me, meant I stank of garlic for quite a
while afterwards. I always had the nagging suspicion that this was
meant to ground me for a few days. My grandparents couldn't bear to
see me play.

Thinking about these ancestral home remedies as a grown man with some
education and with some ability to reason, I would have to conclude
that these wonderful treatments are more of nostalgic than
therapeutic value, unless of course you are of the type for whom
nostalgia is panacea.

It would be such a pleasure to read a compilation of Goan folk
remedies.

Cheers,

Santosh



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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 01:25:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lawrie D'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Kidnapping victim rescued - Almost Live Report

This guy Cecil seems to be a very talented guy. Should
serve as an asset to Goanet/Goa-World...oops ! am I
mixing up anything here.
Well I sure do enjoy your post thank God ! it
comes unedited. I am sure the rest of the folks too
are njoyin

Reading the several interview you posted was tempted
to ask you to cover a report with VVS
Our own Veronica I am willing to bear the cost of
the phone charges...

Thanks to BSNL for the slash of rates in the
International call 

[Goanet] Sadhu Shilanand pioneers new approach in evangelisation

2002-04-23 Thread sarnews

SAR News Apr. 23, 2002

Sadhu Shilanand Pioneers a New Approach in Evangelisation

New Delhi: SAR News

A Jesuit Brother, Sadhu Shilanand, calls it Masihi Satsangh, which literally means 
Christian fellowship groups. It is a pleasant mixture of charismatic movement and 
traditional Indian style of katha-kirtan, or story-telling through songs.

As a zealous missionary, Sadhu Shilanand is clear about his vision and mission: 
evangelisation of village folks through proclaiming the life and message of Christ 
through ways and means in which the people understand and feel at home.

Sadhu Shilanand, born Silvester D'Souza at Mangalore, has a team of five lay people 
who are clued up on his vision and mission of evangelisation, the life and message of 
Jesus Christ and the catechism of the Catholic Church.

Sadhu Shilanand told SAR News that he worked with a veteran Jesuit missionary, Fr. Ed 
Mann, in the village mission in Bihar and from his method of preaching and catechising 
the village people, he has learned a lot and developed his present method of 
evangelisation.

With this new approach, evangelisation has been taking place effectively in Patna 
Diocese since 1998, says Sadhu Shilanand. He has the whole of the four Gospels and 
the Acts composed in the form of traditional Ram Katha in local Bhojpuri and Maghi 
dialects, which even the illiterate villagers can understand.

Usually his five-member team consisting of an animator, a singer, a preacher and 
drum-beater goes to a village or to a hostel in the village. The drum-beating and 
singing, usually late in the evening, begin to attract villagers. When people gather, 
the team acts out a real scene from the lives of the local people and then again with 
the help of the people, the scene is analysed. The animator leads the dialogue with 
the people. The message of the enacted scene is reinforced through singing and 
appropriate conclusion leading to repentance, reconciliation, etc. The people also 
participate actively as the final songs which usually involve dancing to the tune of 
the songs and drum-beating.

One village in my parish has only one Catholic family. But now after a programme by 
the Masihi Satsangh team, more and more people are keen to accept Jesus as their 
Saviour, says Jesuit Father Augustine of the Catholic Church at Basanni Kothi, Bihar.

Another Parish Priest, Fr. Mathew Uzhuthal of Catholic Church, Mokama, Bihar wrote to 
Sadhu Shilanand: Mr. Arun and Mr. Ajay, your team members, are really talented and 
hard working. They sing and speak to people convincingly and consistently the Catholic 
interpretations of the Bible passages in the dialect of the people. This helped even 
the illiterate people in the village to understand the message which they want to 
convey. 


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[Goanet] 21 Apr: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS

2002-04-23 Thread Aloysius D'Souza

Hi Goans everywhere,

I hope these ornamental plants are not of medicinal value  --  our
American friends are known to buy something that they will  investigate
thoroughly and then patent   --  subsequently charge us royalty to use these
same plants or their extracts  --  refer the medicinal value of NEEM,
TURMERIC (HALDI), GINGER,  GARLIC, ETC

Cheers

Aloysius D'Souza

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 21 APRIL 2002

 EXPORT OF ORNAMENTAL PLANTS: Cosme Pharma Limited, a unit of Cosme Group
of
 Companies, released their first export consignment of ornamental plants
 recently. The company bagged an export order for ornamental plants from a
 USA-based biotechnology firm and entered into an agreement on regular
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[Goanet] Support this restaurant

2002-04-23 Thread V M

Greetings all.

Fred Noronha has persuaded me to resubscribe to this
forum, and I'm happy to see some old-time
correspondents still contributing here.

Anyway, I'm back after spending ten extremely hot days
in Goa - coinciding with that BJP national conference.
It was rather interesting to see giant cut-outs of the
leadership of that party on the streets of Panjim, and
to have the view from my car windows literally
saffronized with party flags festooned every few
yards. 

The highlight of every trip to Goa for us is,
naturally, the food. It was mango season, and we made
sure to eat as many as we could get our hands on. And
there was plenty of fish available, especially my
favorite little velhos which I consumed in vast
quantity - entire schools of them disappeared into my
appreciative gullet.

The purpose of this post, however, is to tell you all
about my #1 culinary discovery on this trip to Goa -
the newish little restaurant in Caranzalem called 'O
Cozinheiro'. It takes a little bit of finding, since
it's off the main road and tucked into a corner of
that accessible village, but do persevere.

Here's the thing - Goan restaurants are plentiful but
very few feature cooks who really take pains to
interpret the local cuisine in a meticulous and
attentive manner. I always eat at Florentine, for
example, the now-legendary dive in Saligao, and the
food there is consistently fine, but it isn't
particularly carefully made. The same can be said of
Martin's Corner in Betalbatim in the South of Goa.
Good food, good ingredients, but perhaps lacking in a
certain professional element that could take the food
from simply  good to eye-opening, to world-class.

It is a small irony that Floyd Cardoz has taken New
York somewhat by storm with his elegant and daring
interpretations of Goan (at least Bombay Goan) dishes
with an eye towards haute cuisine, but Goa has lacked
a chef (or chefs, if we want to be greedy) with the
confidence to do something similar at home. 

Now, I'm not comparing a celebrity,
classically-trained, chef like Floyd Cardoz to Joe
Martins of 'O Cozinheiro', and most likely young
Martins would be appalled at the very idea. But let me
put it this way - Cardoz himself would surely like
Martins' food. 

O' Cozinheiro features a menu of straight up Goan
standards, from chicken cafreal to all the various
fish and crab and shellfish dishes, and a range of
starters. Everything is reasonably priced, maybe 10%
more than Florentine but still a fraction of what
you'd pay at a hotel. But what distinguishes its food
from that of any other restaurant I've been to in Goa
is the minute care taken with each ingredient, Martins
is clearly someone who loves his Goan culinary palette
and takes immense pride in displaying in the best
light possible. He carefully marinates and ages his
meats, his fish is prepared with a light and expert
touch. Let me give you this example of his
attentiveness  - not content with the (good) quality
of bread commercially available, Martins makes his own
by going through the arduous process of mixing his
batter and proving it in climate-controlled
conditions, and then making it fresh to serve hot to
his delighted customers. It's the best bread in Goa,
and that's saying something.

Why am I taking the (entirely unsolicited) step of
giving Martins such a public appreciation on the
Internet? Because he should be supported, and because
I am entirely confident that his food will win you
over as it did me. In fact, my first meal there was so
revelatory and singular that I made it a point to
revisit a few days later to re-test. No disappointment
whatsoever.

It's a small restaurant, extremely neat and clean even
though the decor can most charitably be described as
'homey'. But Martins is doing something quite special,
and he deserves to have his efforts rewarded. Go there
the next time you're in Goa, make it a point to have a
meal at 'O Cozinheiro', I am sure that you will be
entirely satisfied by the experience, and I dare say
that you'll wind up as captivated as everyone I know
has been.

I happen to have the address handy  - O Cozinheiro,
Near Football Ground, Caranzalem, Ilhas. Telephone -
228234. Check it out.

VM

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[Goanet] re: Ancestral remedies Santosh

2002-04-23 Thread santoshhelekar

Jose wrote:

 Dear Santosh,
 
 do you remember a treatment for childhood asthma
 which as doing its rounds in Goai.e. The hapless
 child was made to drink blood of a chameleon?
 

It's not a chameleon Jose. It is some kind of a monitor lizard. In 
Konkani I believe it is called gaar. Yes, I do remember that cure 
well, although I never had a first-hand experience of it. In 
retrospect, I would have loved to have that memory rather than the 
experience. Actually, there is another asthma remedy from other parts 
of the world that is more amusing to me than the blood of gaar, and 
that is swallowing a whole live fish. Have you seen that being done?

Cheers,

Santosh

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[Goanet] Fashions and Fools

2002-04-23 Thread M Mascarenhas

Margaret Mascarenhas:  fashion and fools

I went for the fashion show at Ingo's Saturday night market last weekend,
and I hope no one takes this personally, but it was the most entertaining
fashion event I've attended in the past couple of years.  The beachwear was
hep, the clothes eminently practical for the Goan climate, and all the pants
and trousers for woman were designed to fit their bodies. I don't know why
most Indian designers can't seem to get the crotch thing down, but they can'
t, and there it is. My personal favourite was a label known as Skinners,
which had a kind of rap or bebop jersey and leather look.  Their clothes are
available at the Anjuna flea market and at a place called Ambrosia, which I
plan to hit as soon as I figure out where it is. After the fashion show, my
friend Raji discovered a stall selling beaded hats that give you a kind of
Cleopatra look. We bought a bunch them and plan to start a fashion trend.

Another pleasant surprise was the food stalls, which are really very good. I
recommend the suchi. Also, the stall known as Janet and John's (or is it the
other way around? anyway, you get the picture) serves very good
Mediterranean fare. There is always live music at the Saturday night market.
They should definitely dispense with the fire shows, though. These are
dangerous and result in the audience being splattered, and occasionally
drenched, in kerosene, which is no one's perfume of choice. Ingo's market is
located in Arpora at what was formerly known as the Haystack, and is not to
be confused with the Baga one which is a narrow and crowded strip that makes
your head spin.

At some point, I found myself standing with a group of people I know
vaguely. One of them prides himself on his anecdotes.  Heh, heh, he
sniggered mincingly, while I groaned inwardly because I knew this was the
cue.  I know a guy who met his life partner on these very grounds, when it
was still called the Haystack, he said. The others leaned forward in
anticipation, and I was simply stricken with awe at their terrifying
gullibility, because I knew that this story was headed for the same place
all his other stories were headed, which is straight up his rear end. The
man was fair and the woman was dark, the freakshow continued, and I
congratulated him for being the first man to find a nigger in a Haystack.
He laughed uproariously at his own joke, which in fact, I had heard before
from the actual author of the joke (not him), and then he petted his own
empty head in a congratulatory sort of way.  Probably he is someone who goes
to Church regularly and even practices Lent. If wonder if he knows that
Christ was not a white man?

I excused myself and moved away, feeling as sick to my stomach as the first
time I'd heard this story.

The next morning I spoke with a woman who informed me that there are
educated people (by this I guess she means that they basically know the
alphabet) around who say that there was never any slave trade in Goa. I won
't name names, said the informant, but she wanted me to know that whoever
they are, they express their opinion on this subject with the thunderous
righteousness that many use to camouflage their ignorance.  I was bored, and
didn't have the patience to give a history lesson over the phone. Let them
go to the Archives and look up the lists of slaves bought and sold in the
Praca de Leilao, I said impatiently. Let them go to the Central Library
for the first time in their lives and read about their own history.  Or
not. If people want to wallow around in their ignorance and expose
themselves for what they are, why should I get my knickers in a twist? It's
a free country. I gave up trying to change the world shortly after college,
which is when I took my first reality byte.

My father tells me that his family had a slave called Valente, who died long
before I myself was born. Valente's main claim to fame was that he once
served tea to the then Governor of Goa. He did this dressed in a dinner
jacket and a kashti.

Margaret Mascarenhas

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[Goanet] 23 Apr: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS

2002-04-23 Thread Joel D'Souza

GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
23 APRIL 2002

ORDINANCE ON CONTINGENCY FUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL: Senior counsel, SK Kakodkar, 
yesterday argued before the Panjim Bench of the Bombay High Court, that the 
'Contingency Fund' ordinance promulgated by the Governor, Mohammed Fazal, is 
unconstitutional in as much as it provides to divert the State's revenues 
from its constitutional route into the 'Consolidated Fund'. (H)

CONG, NCP MAY JOIN HANDS: The Nationalist Congress, which is eager to crack a 
seat-sharing deal with the Congress Party will step in the election arena of 
Goa for the first time. The preliminary talk in this direction has been 
already held between Dr Wilfred de Souza and Goa Pradesh Congress Committee 
chief Nirmala Sawant recently. (GT)

PIGGY-BACK RIDE: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar ridiculed the Congress for 
their piggy-back ride on the NCP stating that even before the poll campaign 
of the BJP commenced, the Congress had developed cold feet. (GT)

CENTRE TO DECIDE KHALAP ISSUE: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar on Monday said 
that Law Minister Ramakant Khalap's issue vis-à-vis BJP, had been referred to 
the party's central leadership. (H)

DR MESQUITA STAKES CLAIM: Dr Wilfred Mesquita, former Revenue minister, who 
won the 1994 elections from Vasco constituency, has caused a flutter by 
staking his claim to contest from Cortalim constituency on the Congress 
ticket. (GT)

JUST FIVE ZP MEMBERS: Just five out of the total 20 members of the South Goa 
Zilla panchayat deliberating and finalizing the budget proposals for the 
2002-03 financial year would seem strange for many. This is even more 
surprising given that the zilla members had been vocal in demanding more 
powers from the government. (H)

NEED TO STREAMLINE 'OUT OF COURT' MECHANISM: The Chief Justice of India 
designate, Justice BN Kirpal, has suggested to the Goa State Legal Services 
Authority to experiment with 'mediation' as an alternative disputes redressal 
forum has been introduced by Andhra Pradesh and emphasised on the need to 
streamline the 'out of court' mechanism. (H)

CLASH IN BENAULIM: Supporters of ex-MLA of Benaulim Churchill Alemao and 
Mickky Pacheco had a minor clash but prompt action by the Colva police 
averted an ugly situation. (GT)

TWO INJURED IN DIVAR: Tow persons (Antonio Menezes and Chowdury) were injured 
when two scooters collided with each other near the Fr Soares ground at Divar 
on Sunday. (H)

MGP TO CONTEST 27 SEATS: MGP president Shashikala Kakodkar expressed the view 
that the party should contest 27 seats out of 40 and leave the rest to other 
parties. (GT)

LINESMAN ELECTROCUTED: A linesman (Alleluia Araujo) attached to the 
electricity department, Sancoale, died of electrocution yesterday when he had 
climbed an electric pole to rectify a fault. (GT)

KONKANI POETRY PRESENTATION: Three leading Konkani poets-Nutan Sakhardande, 
Nayana Adarkar and Maya Kharangate-will present their poems at a programme 
organised by the Kala Academy on April 25 at 5 pm under the banner of 
Sahityaprakash at the Black Box. (GT)

CIVIL SUIT ON GARBAGE: Husband and wife duo-Levin and Sheroline da 
Costa-filed a civil suit against Margao Municipal Council, Comunidade of 
Margao and Manovikas Public Charitable Trust praying to restrain dumping of 
garbage at the dump at Sonsoddo. (GT)

CAR VANISHES: A Marutii car belonging to Simon Fernandes literally vanished 
into thin air at Miramar, just fifteen minutes after it was parked.  (GT)

BJP WEBSITE: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar yesterday opened the party's 
official website www.goabjp.com at the BJP's Panjim office. (GT)

HEAVY SHOWERS AT CANACONA: Heavy pre-monsoon rains lashed many parts of 
Canacona on the night of April 22. The showers lasted for about two hours and 
was accompanied by lightning and thunder. 

CHANGE IN RAJ BHAVAN NUMBER: The new telephone numbers of Raj Bhavan, Goa, 
will be the following from 1 May, 2002: 453501/2/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/99. 

KONKANI WRITER BAGS AWARD: Konkani short story writer Prakash S Pariekar from 
Sattari, has won a prestigious national-level Katha ward for creative fiction 
in Konkani, for the year 2001, for his short story Chandrakor recently. (GT)

S P O R T S

DEMPO CLOSER TO NFL BERTH: Dempo Sports Club collected full points by 
defeating State Bank Travancore, by a solitary Goa, in the Second Division 
National Football League in Pondicherry. Dempo now head the league table with 
12 points from 4 matches. (GT)

D E A T H S
   20 Apr: Cuncolim: OLIVER LR COUTINHO, husband of Olfrinda, father of 
Olwin, Rovina/Navil.
   22 Apr: Chicalim: MELBA DE AZAREDO, sister/sister-in-law of late 
Manuel/late Lucilla Sequeira, late Angela/late Rozendo, late Verodiana/late 
Jose Miranda, late Ramiro, late Olivia/late Octaviano, late Alzira/late Mick, 
Francisco.
   22 Apr: Santa Cruz: ALELUIA ANTON JOAO DE ARAUJO, husband of Felicidade, 
father of Manuel and Ruzai. Brother of Minguel/Brigita Buzin (Kuwait)/Luiza.
   22 Apr: Goa Velha: 

[Goanet] attention OIB Eddie deSa

2002-04-23 Thread The Goan Forum

Attention Other Indian Bookshop and Eddie DeSa

Eddie DeSa's computer is apparently sending out A
virus ostensibly from OIB!

Please do the needful.

TGF has tried to contact Mr. deSa in an effort to get
him to correct the situation.

But...this effort has thus far been unsuccessful

jc for TGF



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[Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies

2002-04-23 Thread Eddie

More on Ancestral Home Remedies

If you have a toothachetake a sip of  cashew feni and leave it
in your mouth for some time.

I remember  when we were small, and felt like having a sip of (kutuchem)
feni
just pretend  you have a toothache, specially night time..and our parents
used
to be ready with the..Kals

Eddie Verdes
Saudi Arabia


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[Goanet] Re: attention OIB Eddie deSa

2002-04-23 Thread George Pinto

Eddie just informed me of his new email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the old one was 
discontinued
because of a virus - hence he may not have recd. your email.

Margaret Mascarenhas just informed me that she recd. an email from me called 
Associate which I
have no record of having sent.  I apologize to anyone who recd. this virus from me 
(klez virus
as she calls it).  I will look into having this problem fixed asap.

Also I have recd. a few virus infected emails in the last week, with goatelecom 
email addresses.
 

George

--- The Goan Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Attention Other Indian Bookshop and Eddie DeSa
 
 Eddie DeSa's computer is apparently sending out A
 virus ostensibly from OIB!
 
 Please do the needful.
 
 TGF has tried to contact Mr. deSa in an effort to get
 him to correct the situation.
 
 But...this effort has thus far been unsuccessful
 
 jc for TGF
 
 


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[Goanet] SCHOOL BASKET BALL FINAL ON WEDNESDAY

2002-04-23 Thread A. Veronica Fernandes




INTER–SCHOOL BASKET-BALL SEMIFINALS.

In an interschool basket-ball tournament organized by United Goans Centre to 
mark the Silver Jubilee of their establishment, on 17th of this month at 
Jabriya Indian School Ground, the host defeated United Indian School by 
44-24.  Before the start of the matach at 5.30 the Chairman of the School 
Mr. Mathews was introduced to both the teams by the chief coordinator 
Fidelis Fernandes.  Backed by their vociferous supporters including boys and 
girls with musical instruments and singing hosannas in praise of their 
colleagues Jabriya Indian School lads took the field with the intention to 
win.  With the clever tips from their coach K. M. Jose from the side lines 
Jabriya really played well and won the match with a very comfortable margin.

In the second encounter at the same venue, at 7.00 p.m., Carmel School faced 
an uphill task to overcome the stiff oppostion posed by their opponents 
Delhi Public School who were showing their maiden appearance in this 
tournament due to the privellege they got of slotting into bye position.  
During the first and second quarters DPS lads looked to be very aggressive 
and gave a hint that they will surely carry the day.  However, in the 3rd 
quarter the whole situation changed as Carmel boys started scoring one after 
the other and in the final quarter they took full control of the match 
thereby winning the encounter with a handsome score of 31 – 23. Before the 
start of this match, Mrs. Jafri the vice-principal of JIS and Mr. Sharma the 
Manager of DPS were introduced to both the participating teams.

TOMORROW WEDNESDAY 24TH APRIL -  FINAL


The final of this tournament will be played at the same venue on Wednesday 
24th of this month at 7.00 p.m.  between Jabriya Indian School and Carmel 
School.  Before the final at 6.00 p.m., for the third place, United Indian 
School – Abbasiya will meet Delhi Public School – Ahmadi.

A. Veronica Fernandes,
Kuwait.










































Thursday 11th April 2002
Jabriaya Indian School was the venue for the Inter School Basketball 
tournament, orguanized by United Goan Centre, Kuwiat.

The teams trying to vie for a place in the semi finals Jabriya Indian School 
and English School Fahaheel.

Both teams with very agile ball handlers in their side, on paper, could not 
match the superior position play of the JIS (Jabriya Indian School), who out 
played the English School Fahaheel  boys in all departments of basket ball. 
The ESF (English School Fahaheel), were all at sea, not knowing whether to 
guard their basket or attack the opponents basket.

The JIS team with a vociferous crowd support, of students and supporters 
beating drums and cheering their teams being their home court, led the 
thrashing that was the end result of 69 – 9.

The top scorer for JIS being No.22 Phillip with 22 points to his credit, but 
the credit should go to Osama who scored 16 points and was instrumental in 
thwarting the ESK attack.

The first quarter saw JIS taking a 18 to 2  lead thanks to the position play 
of their shooting guard Steve, who made space for counter attacks, and 
dunked the baskets, at leisure.

ESK on the other hand were lethargic, going for sowmanship which did not 
translate into points for them.

The best the ESK could do was in the third quarter when they scored 5 points 
to 18 of JIS.

Teams: JIS : Osama K, Filip S, Nounie A, Tyrone W, Mahmood N, Bilal I, Steve 
J, Arun R, Mahd A, Ahmed A, Roshan M, Salman M,

ESK: Ahmed a, Sailwali S, Islam B, Mohammad S, Ahmed D, Mohammed A, Ibrahim 
G,

The second match of the day pitted Indian Public School against Gulf Indian 
School

Gulf Indian school scored of a free throw when they were fouled, and carried 
on to win 30 –14, thanks to Eapen scoring 16 of those points.

The highlight of the day was their three point shooting .

Teams: GIS: Eapen, Saji, Lenni, karan, Suresh, Rohit, Nawaf, Habib, Hamja, 
Harmeet
IPS: Jivi, Kevin, Justin, Prathesh, Aswin, Salim, Olin



Friday 12th April 2002

United Indian School Vs. Gulf Indian School

Introduction.

After seeing exciting basketball at its best on Thursday, we expected United 
Indian School to the be underdogs, but it was not to be; United Indian 
School led their charge with No. 10 who hoodwinked the Gulf Indian School 
players, scoring 8 points for his team in the first quarter to lead 14-0

GIS was not the team of Thursday, even Eapen was guilty of missing easy lay 
ups, and free throws, and the day ended with a score of 53 –15 in favour of 
United Indian School.

Teams:
UIS: Ranjith P, Titty R, Dibu J, Suhail M, Imaran N, Roshan B, Vishak M, 
Abrahiam J, jason J, Jean J.

GIS: Jaivi A, Justin, Pratheesh R, Kevin G, Aswin J, Salim M.

Exciting semifinal clash between..


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[Goanet] Fashions and Fools
Re: [Goanet]  Ancestral Home Remedies
[Goanet] attention OIB  Eddie deSa
[Goanet]  Ancestral Home Remedies
[Goanet] Re: attention OIB  Eddie deSa
[Goanet] SCHOOL BASKET BALL FINAL ON WEDNESDAY

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 01:44:23 -0400
From: M Mascarenhas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Fashions and Fools

Margaret Mascarenhas:  fashion and fools

I went for the fashion show at Ingo's Saturday night market last weekend,
and I hope no one takes this personally, but it was the most entertaining
fashion event I've attended in the past couple of years.  The beachwear was
hep, the clothes eminently practical for the Goan climate, and all the pants
and trousers for woman were designed to fit their bodies. I don't know why
most Indian designers can't seem to get the crotch thing down, but they can'
t, and there it is. My personal favourite was a label known as Skinners,
which had a kind of rap or bebop jersey and leather look.  Their clothes are
available at the Anjuna flea market and at a place called Ambrosia, which I
plan to hit as soon as I figure out where it is. After the fashion show, my
friend Raji discovered a stall selling beaded hats that give you a kind of
Cleopatra look. We bought a bunch them and plan to start a fashion trend.

Another pleasant surprise was the food stalls, which are really very good. I
recommend the suchi. Also, the stall known as Janet and John's (or is it the
other way around? anyway, you get the picture) serves very good
Mediterranean fare. There is always live music at the Saturday night market.
They should definitely dispense with the fire shows, though. These are
dangerous and result in the audience being splattered, and occasionally
drenched, in kerosene, which is no one's perfume of choice. Ingo's market is
located in Arpora at what was formerly known as the Haystack, and is not to
be confused with the Baga one which is a narrow and crowded strip that makes
your head spin.

At some point, I found myself standing with a group of people I know
vaguely. One of them prides himself on his anecdotes.  Heh, heh, he
sniggered mincingly, while I groaned inwardly because I knew this was the
cue.  I know a guy who met his life partner on these very grounds, when it
was still called the Haystack, he said. The others leaned forward in
anticipation, and I was simply stricken with awe at their terrifying
gullibility, because I knew that this story was headed for the same place
all his other stories were headed, which is straight up his rear end. The
man was fair and the woman was dark, the freakshow continued, and I
congratulated him for being the first man to find a nigger in a Haystack.
He laughed uproariously at his own joke, which in fact, I had heard before
from the actual author of the joke (not him), and then he petted his own
empty head in a congratulatory sort of way.  Probably he is someone who goes
to Church regularly and even practices Lent. If wonder if he knows that
Christ was not a white man?

I excused myself and moved away, feeling as sick to my stomach as the first
time I'd heard this story.

The next morning I spoke with a woman who informed me that there are
educated people (by this I guess she means that they basically know the
alphabet) around who say that there was never any slave trade in Goa. I won
't name names, said the informant, but she wanted me to know that whoever
they are, they express their opinion on this subject with the thunderous
righteousness that many use to camouflage their ignorance.  I was bored, and
didn't have the patience to give a history lesson over the phone. Let them
go to the Archives and look up the lists of slaves bought and sold in the
Praca de Leilao, I said impatiently. Let them go to the Central Library
for the first time in their lives and read about their own history.  Or
not. If people want to wallow around in their ignorance and expose
themselves for what they are, why should I get my knickers in a twist? It's
a free country. I gave up trying to change the world shortly after college,
which is when I took my first reality byte.

My father tells me that his family had a slave called Valente, who died long
before I myself was born. Valente's main claim to fame was that he once
served tea to the then Governor of Goa. He did this dressed in a dinner
jacket and a kashti.

Margaret Mascarenhas

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:59:51 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Goanet]  Ancestral Home Remedies


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[Goanet] Summer Course at NIO

2002-04-23 Thread S.R. Bhat

Summer Course at NIO 

The four day summer course for the first batch of the students who 
responded to the newspaper announcement, will start at 10:30 a.m. from 23
April, 2002 at the National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), Dona Paula.

The course, which aims to create an awareness about the seas, flora  fauna and 
sensitive ecosystem such as mangroves, includes lectures, film  slide shows and field 
trips to a beach and mangrove area.  The students will be given an opportunity to work 
in the laboratory to analyse the samples they have collected during these field trips 
and prepare their observation reports.

It is hoped that such courses  will inculcate an appreciation of the interdisciplinary 
nature of the ocean, says Dr. Ehrlich Desa, Director, NIO.  We have much to do in this 
regard, and even though it is an extra demand on our colleagues' time, we shall be 
putting an increasing thrust, if for no other reason than to interest bright young 
students to the excitement of research in the ocean science.

The course for the second batch which also has about 50 students will commence from 
April 30.  All the parents of the first batch have been informed  about the 
arrangements, telephonically  by e-mail, says Mr. S.R. Bhat.  The encouraging 
response from over 100 students has highlighted the need for such awareness programmes 
on a regular basis, he said.

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2002-04-23 Thread Joseph Viegas

Paulo,
In a bilingual city like Ottawa, the street names are generally
marked in both official languages. Usually the English descriptor
(Street, Avenue) is after the name, while the French one is before
the name. For example:
Hunt Club Road is displayed as Chemin Hunt Club Road
Wellington Street displayed as Rue Wellington Street
Queen Elizabeth Drive as Promenade Queen Elizabeth Drive

Could the Panjim Municipality have the same idea?

Boogie


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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:51:24 +0100
From: Paulo Colaco Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: TIMES: Balcony View

Hi Eddie,
.

I say there is lack of detail in the sense that nobody actually cares
about
looking for the correct spelling or meaning.
That is why we sometimes read in Goa:  Rua Abade Faria Road or
Hospicio
Hospital, etc.

Nobody actually cares anymore if it makes sense or not.
This is what I mean when I refer to the current lack of detail in Goa.

It is good for a laugh ! Sadly.

Best,
Paulo.

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[Goanet] INTERVIEW: Building bridges from Portugal... via cyberspace

2002-04-23 Thread Frederick Noronha

GOANS OVERSEAS: BUILDING BRIDGES FROM PORTUGAL... VIA CYBERSPACE

One generation after Portugal and its 451-year-old former colony Goa
suddenly snapped their ties, a new generation of expats based there are
finding that cyberspace is building bridges that cut across language,
political and geographical gaps.

Constantino Hermanns Xavier, 20, is of Goan-German origins and lives in
Portugal. His father's roots are in Verna, Salcete while his grand-mum still
lives in Fontainhas, Panjim. His mum comes from Dusseldorf, Germany. After
living in Germany and Brazil, the family has been 22 years in Lisbon, where
he lives with his brother Isabel (27) and Leonardo (18).

Says he: My interests, besides everything related to Goa, are history,
sports (I played football in a district league for three years). I'm also
active with my student friends from university at the Centre for Studies in
Political Science and International Relations. 

During a recent sojourn in Goa, he spoke about The Portuguese Political
System at the Goa University in February. Currently he studies his third
year of International Relations, at the Universidade Nova de Lisboa. Future
plans are always open and changing, says he.

To understand how expat Goan communities have been using the Net, FREDERICK
NORONHA quizzed Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Excerpts: 

---
How would you describe your current work as a 'online community builder' for
the Goan community in Portugal?
---

I'm part of a younger generation of Goans, who were already born outside
Goa, here in Portugal, or in some other country. These young people of Goan
origin are pretty much fully integrated in the Portuguese society, and have
access to Internet and other modern resources. 

That's why, three years back, I started a website on Goa (that time it was
called vivaGoa). I am trying to link this generation upto today's Goa, so
they see this place far away in India still exists and is part of them and
their ancestors. 

Besides this cultural and value oriented objective, I also try to pass on
the message that Goa maintains a huge potential they can explore: as a
holiday spot, as a business opportunity, as a historical place where they
can find their roots...and so on.

---
What's the size of the Goan community in Portugal? We hear widely varying
figures... what does your experience suggest? 
---

The size of the Goan community in Portugal -- mainly centered in Lisbon and
surrounding areas, but also around Coimbra -- is very hard to estimate. Who
is a Goan? Do you count younger people like me in? On what criteria? I have
heard many figures: numbers are around 10,000 to 50,000.

The Goan community consists mainly of Catholics, but there have been always
some important Hindu families who are fully integrated into the Portuguese
society.

There are Goans from different origins and Goans who have arrived at
different historical periods: before 1961 we had for centuries a long
immigration trend coming from the old Estado Portugues da India.

Goans would come (to Portugal) to continue their studies, to work in the
public administration, and so on. There are important goans who have
achieved great reputation here: Francisco Luis Gomes, Alfredo da Costa, (the
ophthalmologist) Gama Pinto and many more.

After 1961, following ... the end of Portuguese colonial power in India,
many Goans left for Portugal, for professional and academic purposes, for
political reasons (the Portuguese authorities encouraged thousands of Goans
to emigrate) and also for economical reasons, looking for a better life in
Europe.  

Besides this, a third group of Goans arrived in Portugal after 1974, with
the end of the Portuguese colonial regimes in Africa, mainly from
Mozambique. These Goans had lived for many years in Africa, and still today
they remain a community within the community, strongly attached to their
memories from the African continent.

As in all immigrant communities, there are strong differences between the
elder and the younger generations. 

In the Goan community, these differences are even more striking. There is a
common religion and language with the Portuguese, sometimes even the same
educational and cultural values. This makes easier the integration into the
Portuguese society, especially for the younger generations, since they have
not lived in Goa and were brought up in Portugal. 

Their friends are Portuguese and they are hardly conscious of their Asian
and Indo-Portuguese roots. Curiously, sometimes it's only their darker skin
tone that makes them remember that they are not exactly 100% Portuguese.
Besides that, they could be as Portuguese as our prime-minister!

There are hardly any relations with other 

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2002-04-23 Thread goanet-digest


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[Goanet] Summer Course at NIO
[Goanet] Re: TIMES: Balcony View
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Re: [Goanet] Re: TIMES: Balcony View
[Goanet] INTERVIEW: Building bridges from Portugal... via cyberspace

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:11:49 +0530
From: S.R. Bhat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Summer Course at NIO

Summer Course at NIO 

The four day summer course for the first batch of the students who 
responded to the newspaper announcement, will start at 10:30 a.m. from 23
April, 2002 at the National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), Dona Paula.

The course, which aims to create an awareness about the seas, flora  fauna and 
sensitive ecosystem such as mangroves, includes lectures, film  slide shows and field 
trips to a beach and mangrove area.  The students will be given an opportunity to work 
in the laboratory to analyse the samples they have collected during these field trips 
and prepare their observation reports.

It is hoped that such courses  will inculcate an appreciation of the interdisciplinary 
nature of the ocean, says Dr. Ehrlich Desa, Director, NIO.  We have much to do in this 
regard, and even though it is an extra demand on our colleagues' time, we shall be 
putting an increasing thrust, if for no other reason than to interest bright young 
students to the excitement of research in the ocean science.

The course for the second batch which also has about 50 students will commence from 
April 30.  All the parents of the first batch have been informed  about the 
arrangements, telephonically  by e-mail, says Mr. S.R. Bhat.  The encouraging 
response from over 100 students has highlighted the need for such awareness programmes 
on a regular basis, he said.

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:27:04 -0400
From: Joseph Viegas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Re: TIMES: Balcony View

Paulo,
In a bilingual city like Ottawa, the street names are generally
marked in both official languages. Usually the English descriptor
(Street, Avenue) is after the name, while the French one is before
the name. For example:
Hunt Club Road is displayed as Chemin Hunt Club Road
Wellington Street displayed as Rue Wellington Street
Queen Elizabeth Drive as Promenade Queen Elizabeth Drive

Could the Panjim Municipality have the same idea?

Boogie


- -Original Message-
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:51:24 +0100
From: Paulo Colaco Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: TIMES: Balcony View

Hi Eddie,
.

I say there is lack of detail in the sense that nobody actually cares
about
looking for the correct spelling or meaning.
That is why we sometimes read in Goa:  Rua Abade Faria Road or
Hospicio
Hospital, etc.

Nobody actually cares anymore if it makes sense or not.
This is what I mean when I refer to the current lack of detail in Goa.

It is good for a laugh ! Sadly.

Best,
Paulo.

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:50:44 +0530
From: joaquim fx fernandes . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [none]

By Joaquim Fernandes

(Adapted from the article that first appeared in the Navhind Times on
March 6, 2002)

Is Melissa bothering you, or the ILOVEYOU bug got into your system?
Simply put, is there a virus in your computer system and you don't
know what to do? Or, would you like a faster way of getting to your
inbox on either Hotmail or Yahoo mail? If your answer is yes, try
logging on to www.goa4all.com. 

This made-in-Calangute website has a special section on virus rescue
and also takes you instantly to a page allowing logon to both Hotmail
and Yahoo mail. The same page also has links to Rediffmail, Indiatimes
mail and Goatelecom webmail.

Goa4all.com is designed and run by TotalWebSolutions, a company that
specialises in web site design. It's a free portal owned by Mr
Vilanova Lobo, a young entrepreneur from Calangute, who also runs
another popular portal, GoaWorld.com. 

Mr Lobo (popularly known as Vila) says that, ''When hit by a virus,
we don't know what to do and normally spend lots of money of
technicians. Many problems can easily be solved by following the
simple steps provided on our website.''

Vila should know. Besides running 2 portals, he also runs the Arte
D'Ouro chain of cybercafes across Goa. His parent company, AdSoft
Infotech deals in the marketing and service of assembled/branded
computers and computer peripherals.

Assisting Vila in his business are his 2 junior brothers. Vishal
handles the cyber cafe and the computers and peripherals showroom at
Panjim called Digital World.  And Vian handles the cyber cafe at
Porvorim. Vila names the website of Goan musician Remo Fernandes as
one of the prestigious sites his company has designed. 

But coming 

Re: [Goanet] re: Ancestral remedies Santosh

2002-04-23 Thread Nagesh Bhatcar


experience. Actually, there is another asthma remedy from other parts
of the world that is more amusing to me than the blood of gaar, and
that is swallowing a whole live fish. Have you seen that being done?

Cheers,

Santosh

A lot of people go to Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh, where a family
administers this live fish treatment to thousands of asthma sufferers.
Once a year, when this event is held, this live fish stuffed with
medicines, is virtually pushed down the throat of any willing asthma 
patient!
The website http://www.fish-medicine.org/ provides all the info on this
treatment.

Nagesh

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[Goanet] Presidential Elections in India

2002-04-23 Thread Mervyn Lobo

 TONY BORGES wrote:

DR. LEO REBELLO OF BOMBAY TO CONTEST
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS IN INDIA
Please read on and support

Whereas, Dr. Karan Singh and Mr. V.P.Singh (the two other contenders) have
passed their prime, Dr. Leo Rebello - who turned 52 on April 11, if elected
will
be the youngest President of India. He represents three minorities :
Christians
(by birth), Parsis (by marriage) and Humanitarians (by choice).

Dr. Leo Rebello is highly qualified, well-traveled in some 51 countries,
written
25 books, has 30 years of solid all round social work experience. He has
met
several world leaders and his contribution to Humanism in Health is widely
known. He has once again been nominated for a Nobel and recipient of many
international awards.


Mr. Borges,
Please tell me this is not the same Dr. Leo Rebello who wants to cure aids
by music therapy.
Regards
Mervyn Lobo


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[Goanet] Ancestral Home Remedies

2002-04-23 Thread bernadine decosta

And here's another one of those great ancestral home
remedies - it does work.

For a earache, put three or four drops of breast milk
in the ear that is aching, from a mother who is breast
feeding.

I remember giving my breast milk on 3 ocassions when
some family friends asked me to give few drops of
breast milk to stop their ear-ache.  

It did wondersthe ear-ache had gone.

Yeahwe need to compile all these remedies so that
our future generations can always put them to use -
these are far less harmful than modern day medicines,
antibiotics etc.,

Bernadine


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