[Goanet]Goa Health Dept to clamp down on unhygienic restaurants in Panjim

2003-08-19 Thread GOACAN
 

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Health dept to clamp down on unhygienic restaurants
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Viral Hepatitis (jaundice) continues to play havoc as the number
of its victims went up to 113 in Panjim even as the health authorities
decided to clamp down on restaurants running in unhygienic conditions.
By Tuesday afternoon, the Directorate of Health Services had confirmed
that the viral hepatitis victims had gone up from 107 to 113. DHS officials
lament that private hospitals do not intimate the office of the epidemiologist
about the communicable disease. In the instant case too, many may not
have come on record. A team of doctors however, has been instructed to
visit the city-based private hospitals to get the correct picture of the viral
hepatitis, officials said.
The Director of Health Services, Dr A V Salelkar said that there is no need
for panic as the situation was well under control and that the government was
taking all necessary measures. He maintained that yesterday the number of
victims was 107 (as reported by the Herald) and not 160.
The DHS is awaiting the report from the National Institute of Virology (NIV),
Pune, where serum samples have been sent two days ago. The report will
confirm whether the viral Hepatitis is Hepatitis A or Hepatitis E.Worried 
about
the situation, the government has decided to create awareness about the
disease. As part of this exercise, a programme will be telecast on Goa
Doordarshan between 6-7 pm most probably on August 20.

It may be recalled that contamination of potable water with sewage water
(due to a corroded pipeline three weeks ago), has been tentatively proved
to be the main cause for the spread of viral hepatitis in the city as several
restaurants in the heart of the city had been supplied the same water.
INSPECTION: The Corporation of City of Panjim (CCP) has issued notices
to 30 hotels for clearance of illegal constructions and extensions carried out
by several hotels and restaurants today. As per the notice, hotels have to
remedy the situation within the period of 28 days from the date of issue of
the notices, informed the sources in the Corporation. Following the complaints
from the people of unhygienic conditions and improper sanitation, Corporation
decided to check the status of the eateries in the State.
In the first round, the inspection team found that hotels and restaurants
not only operate in unhygienic conditions and improper sanitation, but 85
per cent of them have illegal extensions. The Corporation intends to take
strong action against all those hotels that would not comply with the notice.
From Monday, the CCP commenced the second round of hotel and restaurants
inspection with PWD's sewerage and Water Supply Divisions and health services.
Besides the restaurants, complaints have been received against the road-side
eateries running with 'hand-cart' licences. Until the spurt in jaundice 
cases was
reported, the authorities concerned, according to sources, had hardly checked
the water, restaurants and road-side eateries are supplied with.

HERALD 20/8/03


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Re: [Goanet]SEETAPHAL et Chillies

2003-08-19 Thread Nagesh Bhatcar
Miguel,

What exactly are 'anteran' (in Konkani).. we used to have them in our 
backyard
in Goa. It does not look anywhere close to Seetaphal pictured at the 
website.
It used to be green with sort of cell structure. Once opened, it had a stem 
and
white in coloured, sweet contents with seeds.

Thanks,
Nagesh
Nagesh Bhatcar
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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 03:54:43 +0530
Dear Gabe,
Peninsular India ,Africa,Antartica and Latin America once formed part of
Gondwana land.China was part of Laurasia.
The Solanaceae family contains chillies,brinjals,tomato,potato,tobacco and
the Cape Gooseberry. Brinjals have wild relatives in India (Solanum
torvum,etc),the erect chillies(Tarvoti or Lovangi mirchi) are also supposed
to have pre-dated the Arabs and the Portuguese in India. It is eminently
possible that they were natives or came with the chunk that separated
from the super-continent to form India. The bell peppers were brought in
from Latin America as was cashew.
Miguel
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[Goanet]Leander Paes Hospitalized

2003-08-19 Thread Nagesh Bhatcar
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- Leander Paes, one of the world's best doubles tennis 
players,
is being treated for a brain lesion and will miss the upcoming U.S. Open.

Paes, 30, suffered severe headaches late last week. He checked himself into 
an emergency
room near his Orlando home Sunday, and a scan showed a lesion in the left 
occipital region
of the brain.
He was transferred to M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Orlando on Tuesday, 
hospital spokeswoman
Michelle Lynch said.

Tests are being conducted to determine the lesion's cause, with the results 
expected within a
few days. A brain tumor has not been ruled out, Lynch said.

He is alert and speaking, Lynch added.

Paes teamed with Martina Navratilova last month to win the mixed doubles 
title at Wimbledon,
earning her a record-tying 20th championship at the All England Club. Paes 
and Navratilova
also won the mixed doubles title at the Australian Open in January.

Paes has won 27 men's doubles tournaments, including the 1999 and 2001 
French Opens and
the 1999 Wimbledon title. He was ranked as the ATP's top doubles player in 
1999.

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[Goanet]For kind information of Non Resident Goans (NRGs)

2003-08-19 Thread Floriano Lobo
I am planning to develop a 12000 sq. meter property at Assagao (alta) into
exclusive plots of aprox. 600 sq. meters each, ( total 15 nos. ) on a basis
of a "village theme" on staggered placement basis, where owners will have
the choice of their own floor plans & designs of the individual bungalows in
the assigned plots. The property will have a trespass proof high external
perimeter laterite fencing wall. Each plot will be segregated by a 3 meter
side road and a 6 meter front ring- road with street lights and grated
gutters. The project will  have total infrastructure i.e. individual
water/power connections,  ample general parking space, individual septic
tanks/soak pits,  fresh water sump tank, landscaping and greening with new
planned plantation, own well, a club house with a tennis court, 24 hour
security, in-house plumber/handyman services, efficient garbage
clearance/treatment and property upkeep facility. Rainwater harvesting will
also be incorporated. within the village complex with a possibility of a
mini swimming pool.The eco-friendly, Goan ambience, minimum
maintenance-quality construction of the individual units will be undertaken
by our company  with our own architect for custom designing of bungalows.
The owners will have varied maintenance plans available to choose from for
the upkeep of their individual properties.

At anytime given time, the village complex will be impeccably maintained.

Kindly direct queries privately to  floriano  at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you & wish you all a Very Happy World Goa Day

Floriano






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[Goanet]RE: World Goa Day Greetings to Goans in Goa and Disapora

2003-08-19 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
From: Gilbert Lawrence

GREETINGS TO GOANS THROUGH OUT THE WORLD AND ESPECIALLY NATIVE GOENKARS

Greetings to Goans in Goa and through out the Diasporas. 
On August 20, in the year 2003.
The Tenth Anniversary of the Official Recognition of Konkani. 
As a distinct Indian language.

THIS MAKES THE GOANS A CULTURALLY & ETHNICALLY SEPARATE GROUP IN THE
WORLD.

Goans residing in Goa and other parts of India are a different ethnic
group;
Even though like the rest of the Indian people they are Indian
Nationality.
Similarly, Goans residing in the British Isles are the ethnic Goans and
many are British nationality.
And Goans residing in America are ethnic Goans and many like the rest of
the people in USA are American citizens.

The point being made here: 
WE ARE ONE BIG ETHNIC FAMILY WHERE EVER GOANS LIVE.  
We may have different nationalities and citizenships.
We may have different religions.
But we are all ethnically belonging to the same land called Goa where
our ancestors originated.

So here is a message to all the Diaspora and Native Goans while you
enjoy the bounty of feni and sorpotel anim chourissam anim the sanna.

Breathes there a man with soul so dead,
Who never to himself has said,
This is my own, my native land,
Whose heart had ne'er within him burned,
When home his footsteps he had turned,
While wandering on some foreign strand..
By Robert Frost


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[Goanet]WORLD GOA DAY 20th Aug 2003

2003-08-19 Thread Vincente Fernandes
Wishing all GoaNetters a very HAPPY WORLD GOA DAY on 20th Aug 2003.

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[Goanet]Competition for Goan Orginisations, Goan Individuals and Friends

2003-08-19 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:20:39 +0530, "Lionel Hunkin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote:


WORLD GOA DAY HAS NOW EVEN MORE REASONS TO CELEBRATE!

Let me introduce myself and the Goan Company I represent.

My name is Lionel Hunkin and I represent the Royal Goan Beach Club at Haathi
Mahal, Cavelossim, Salcette, Goa - India. I am the International Promotions
Manager for the Group.

The Company:-

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We started our developments here in Goa 10 years ago. We are extremely proud to
announce the completion and launch of our "flagship" Resort in Goa, India,
namely "Haathi Mahal", which actually means Elephant Palace. Haathi Mahal also
happens to be our fourth luxurious Resort Developed in Goa to date.

We used Goa as our "launching pad" into the rest of the south East Asian and
Australasian regions. This proved to be of great success to us. Today we boast
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We feel we have built our success with the help and assistance from Goan and
it's wonderful people. Goa and Goan people are therefore very special to us!

We feel we now owe Goa and Goan people something in return. So, what better way
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HOW?

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I look forward to hearing from you soonest to forward you your very own
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On behalf of the management and staff of the Royal Goan Beach Club, may we wish
you the very beast for the comming World Goa Day!

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[Goanet]do not mess with religion

2003-08-19 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:11:08 +0100 (BST), lazarus demello
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Santosh,

Read a lot about the article Did Jesus Exist? and your replies, if some one
questions the existance of  your gods in a very negative way ,what would you
feel and how would you react, Please revert back I want you to feel that one's
food is another's poison.

Redkar



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Re: [Goanet]Nonsence and more!

2003-08-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
MM,

The difference between Aires and Fred is that Aires
has the guts to sacrifice for Goa. Fr. Chico Monteiro
single handely challenged the bharatis. Fred is a
paraquedista and has a family. Ok lets stop bashing
Fred.

Xac



 --- marlon menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
Ole_Xac,
> 
> Fred has his way of doing things and Aires has his
> own
> style. Their work is not mutually exclusive. On the
> other hand, why dont you put down your cup of tea,
> get
> off your rocking chair and fight for your cause of
> Goan independence and eviction of those "outsiders"
> who have "contaminated" goa. Alternatively, put your
> money where your mouth is and pay someone to do it
> for
> you. BTW, when you talk of the "outsiders", is that
> code for the non-christians who have "invaded" Goa
> since 1961. 
> 
> As for the other criticisms of Fred, they are not
> worth responding to.
> 
> Marlon
> 
> 
>

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Re: [Goanet]SEETAPHAL et Chillies

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Dear Gabe,
Peninsular India ,Africa,Antartica and Latin America once formed part of
Gondwana land.China was part of Laurasia.
The Solanaceae family contains chillies,brinjals,tomato,potato,tobacco and
the Cape Gooseberry. Brinjals have wild relatives in India (Solanum
torvum,etc),the erect chillies(Tarvoti or Lovangi mirchi) are also supposed
to have pre-dated the Arabs and the Portuguese in India. It is eminently
possible that they were natives or came with the chunk that separated
from the super-continent to form India. The bell peppers were brought in
from Latin America as was cashew.
Miguel
- Original Message -
From: "Gabe Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: [Goanet]SEETAPHAL et Chillies


> >
> > The impact of this discovery is so enormous that
> > historians are still trying to assess the prospective
> > monumental task of re-writing history.
> >
> > Here are 2 of my photos of Sugar Apples growing here
> > in Florida:
> >
> > A common type:
> >   http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/SApple71ASIT
> > A Red type:
> >   http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/SAred35ASIT
> > 
> > Asit K. Ghosh
> > Rockledge, Florida, USA
> > Tuesday - 4:40am
>
>
> Response:
>
> What about chillies? The Chinese claim that Chillies grew in the Sichuan
> province of China for years before the Portuguese arrived. Could it be the
> case for India as well, that we too had Chillies growing well before the
> Portuguese arrived and are unduly crediting them with having introduced it
> to us?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gabe Menezes
>
>
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Re: [Goanet]Goa-Should Church Actively Involve in Politics??

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Dear Jper,
When you state something as a 'fact',you should verify it first. The Verna
Grroup of Pilar fathers continues to be outside the Diocese though inside
the state. I do not know if a Bishop can invalidate the mass celebrated by
an 'ordained' priest,or to de-value it. Whatever the status at the time of
the split ,it continues.The group is dying out because no fresh ordinations
are possible.They should have split with a Bishop on their side to ordain
their successors.It is now a No-Win situation.
KRC,Meta Strips,Medium of Education,etc.,the Church should leave to the
society to decide.It should pray,meditate and lead by example of
simplicity,humility,honesty and kindness that were the hall marks of Christ.
If it cannot forgive the Verna priests,why should it expect the world to
forgive it its misdeeds? Do unto others what you would have others to do
unto you. It holds good for everyone and anyone.
Miguel
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Subject: [Goanet]Goa-Should Church Actively Involve in Politics??


> Here are some of the facts:
>
> About 15 years, Church distributed through sermons circulars/handbills etc
etc advising the laity not to go any where near to the then Dis-own or
defected 5 prists from Pilar.  But people ignored their instructions and
continued attending their (dis-own priests) masses at Fr. Agnelo Verna.
> About 5 years later, those dis-own/ defected priests re-joined?
> They ae all in the family now..?
> But church failed to clarify or notify this to the laity.
> There is a saying in konkani "kelolem urta ani Randlolem Sorta"
>
> Again, around 12 years ago, Church was in the news again.
> This time 'not to support Konkan Railway? or its Alingement?'
> jper



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Re: [Goanet]SEETAPHAL

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Dear Gabe,
Sweet Sop,Sugar Apple and Custard Apple are different names for the same
fruit.
Miguel
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From: "Gabe Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: [Goanet]SEETAPHAL


>
>
>
> > Ata in Bengal and Seetaphal in most other parts of India,
> > the Sugar Apple (Annona squamosa) is one of the  most
> > popular fruits in India.
> >
> > ANNONA: Annona is named in arabic (keshta) or in common
> > arabic (Eshta) meaning the flesh texture looks like the
> > white cream of milk.
> > SQUAMOSA: Scaly
>
>
> Query:
>
> Looks similar to Custard Apple is it the same thing or are they related?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gabe Menezes
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #354 - 14 msgs

2003-08-19 Thread Lenny Barretto
Miguel;

Excellent.  You said it all.

Lenny Barretto

Miguel wrote:

Dear Xac,
If someone should martyr you,will you be eating sugar candy or chewing gum
in the other world?
Which specific issue of the Newsweek are you referring to and which page?

Why the Muslim bashing?Practice any faith if you like.Do not practice
anything if you don't. Do avoid religious slurs in either case. It does not
befit a human being...unless you are just being , and not human at all.
Miguel
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From: "Bernado Colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #354 - 14 msgs
 

A German scholar who specalises in Koran has now come
up with the interpretation that after matyrdom Muslims
will get raisins instead of virgins. This information
can be found in the Newsweek of a couple of weeks ago.


   

Mr. Martins,

Muslims revere Jesus Christ as a prophet of God in
the same way as they
revere the Prophet Muhammad. Therefore, the question
of Muslims
bashing/abusing Jesus does not arise.
Now I fully expect you to respond with twenty
different unrelated points.
--
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Re: [goa-research-net] [Goanet]Silver Jubilee: International Seminar on Indo-...

2003-08-19 Thread APinto2383
Thank you Theo,  will be glad to pay the conference fee for ten local guests,  good luck,  regards,  eric.


Re: [Goanet]August is an eventful month.

2003-08-19 Thread WILSON SOARES
Hi Rene,
I dont know if I gave you our web site where you can
get all the information of our up-coming events.
Go to Goacom.com/goa-calgary and you will get all the
details. Try it out and let me know.
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[Goanet]Fred's delayed response.

2003-08-19 Thread Gabe Menezes

>  The Indian Government like most Governments specially the US, is very
> sensitive to Journalists exposing in the media their corrupt practices.
 Journalists are intimidated in India and some have disappeared when they
> have been too bold. Our Frederico knows the perils if he steps out of line
> (in a democracy).

Response:

I fully agree, so what would you have  Fred do ? Disregard the fact that he
is a family man and above all a father of two young children, would you,
that
he put them aside to chase glory, and perhaps employment martyrdom,
To put your million rupees above his life and that of his family?







>Let me ask Fred to investigate Crores of Ruppes deposited
fraudulently
> by the EDC and the Housing Board in one of Goa's most corrupt Banks, the
> Centurion Bank. With middle-men involved in this scam, money is borrowed
to the
> extent of the deposit in crores thereby eliminating all risks. The
difference in
> interest earned and interest paid is shared by the Bank and the middle man
> who in turn shares this with the Goa Government. The Goa Government has
made a
> determined and sinister attempt to embezzle its citizens.

Response:


You should do that, just months ago you were extolling the virtues of the
C.M  our very own .I.I.T. Please send him an email and copy it to goanet so
that we can all get totally involved and immersed in the proceedings.


> I was defrauded by this bank and another individual using forged
> signitures while out of India. When I approached Parrikar, he asked the
Police to
> investigate the matter. When the Police arrested one Bansilal Shetcar,
Manager
> of the Mapusa Branch, Mr. Parrikar (I was informed by the police) was
> approached by the Bank. He in turn requested the Police to release the
Manager. Is
> this not double dealing?

Response:

Wow! you, who knows it all, was actually taken for a jolly ride? Christmas
or Divali came early to someone. You claim that you are a bull terrier, so
please don't ask for help from the likes of Fred. I have a Japanese Akita
and I can tell you that many a bull terrier has ended up badly mauled at
the vets. Incidentally my dog is always on the lead it's the other dogs
( bull terrriers) that fancy their luck. Shri Manohar Parrikar is the
greatest
C.M. that Goa has ever seen, if Solomon wasn't there then he would
have been Solomon! Anyone who disagrees with me kindly post your
remarks on this site, pronto!

Lastly please do not send any email directly to me. This time round I shall
be reporting any abuse to my local Police station. In due course the
Canadian Bounties  will show up at your door. Anything you wish to state
please do it through this forum.

Maybe you are grumpy because you lost a million Rupees, I would have
been inconsolable, and Stella my beloved blonde would have taken her
toll on me!


Thanks in advance,

Gabe Menezes






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[Goanet]RE: Self-esteem and Self-Confidence among Goans

2003-08-19 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
RE: Self-esteem and Self-Confidence among Goans

Samir writes:
The biggest causality of this colonialism for not just Goa but India
Itself, has been self-esteem, and dignity. I do not know how long it
would take, if at all, to restore that self-esteem and dignity.

Response:

I beg to differ with Samir's assertion about lack of self-esteem and
self-confidence among Goans. I would submit to you that Goans are too
self-confident - and sometimes for their own good!!!

Thus our youth drop out of school because they are so smart that they do
not learn much in school. They are smarter than the teacher!

As adults in the work force, we fail to learn and apply ourselves hard
enough. Then we say - the pay is not much, the work is boring or that we
(the employee) know more than the boss.

Finally one of the characterizations of Goans, (by Goans) rightly or
wrongly is the sossegad life style. This life style is not one of a
person who has a poor self-esteem. It is the mind-set of one who thinks
he knows a lot and talks a lot. I do not see any lack of self-esteem and
self-dignity among Goans in cyberspace. Do you?

If Goans truly had poor self-esteem, they would compensate for it by
working harder. This is what new immigrants do in the US. In spite of
the cultural and language difficulties, they are successful through
diligence and hard work. There is no body to console the immigrant's
poor-self esteem. They "lift themselves up with their own boot straps".

Samir and others who present a vile anti-colonial bias, believe all of
Goa's' problem are due to Portuguese colonialism.  Similarly Jose Colaco
and those who are terribly anti-Indian, in their view, believe all of
Goa's problems are due to India's rule. 

In my view, and those of a few in cyberspace, Goa's problems of today
and their solutions are in the hands of Goans. The earlier we stop
finding and making excuses that outsiders are our problem the earlier we
will start rolling up our sleeves and doing something. Just talking
about "outsiders" on whom we do not have any control is not going to
make one iota of improvement. It may increase our egos and blood
pressure and the volume of correspondence in cyberspace.

Finally, Samir and others blame the colonialists for the poor
self-esteem. In fact I would suggest that it is because of the lack of
hard work, the colonialist came, saw and conquered Goa and India. The
concern is will history repeat itself! In fact from reports, that is
already happening with Goa flooded by non-Goans who take up jobs too
demeaning for "self-confident Goans". These "baihle" are also taking
over our culture, music, dance, cuisine, etc.  Regards, GL 





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[Goanet]SEETAPHAL & RAMPHAL: The Confusion

2003-08-19 Thread The Thaumaturgist
Hi Gabe
I think I know why you think the Seetaphal looks 
like a Custard Apple.

In most British colonies, a serious confusion still 
abounds today as to the correct nomenclatures relating 
to Custard Apple and Sugar Apple. The descriptive 
English name of the Custard Apple has been widely
mis-applied to other species creating an ever-lingering 
mass confusion. The seriousness can be seen clearly in 
the list below where the word “Custard Apple” had been 
used to represent 3 distinctly separate species of the
genus Annona, 

(1) Custard Apple is Annona reticulata by international
Taxonomic standards and in USA.
(2) In India, what is called a Custard Apple is really
Annona squamosa.
(3) In Australia, what is called a Custard Apple is 
really Annona cherimola x Annona squamosa.

So, which one is which?

The fruit known as Sweet Sop (Caribbean), Buah Nona
(Malaysia), Ata (Brazil), Ata (Bengali, India), Sharifa
(India) and Seetaphal (India) is really Sugar Apple,
scientific name Annona squamosa.

The fruit known as Bullock’s Heart, Nona (Malaysia), Nona
(Bengali, India) and Ramphal (India)  is really Custard
Apple, scientific name Annona reticulata. 

And since a picture is worth a thousand words:

Sugar Apple (Annona squamosa)
http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/SApple101ASIT 

Custard Apple (Annona reticulata)
http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/CApple101ASIT

Hope this helps.
Thank you.
Asit K. Ghosh
Rockledge, Florida, USA
Tuesday / 5:34pm
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Message: 10
From: "Gabe Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:30:04 +0100
Subject: [Goanet]SEETAPHAL
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ata in Bengal and Seetaphal in most other parts of
India, the Sugar Apple (Annona squamosa) is one of the  
most popular fruits in India. 
 
ANNONA: Annona is named in arabic (keshta) or in common
arabic (Eshta) meaning the flesh texture looks like the
white cream of milk.
SQUAMOSA: Scaly
 
Query:

Looks similar to Custard Apple is it the same thing or
are they related?

Cheers,
Gabe Menezes


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Re: [Goanet]RE: Hello? Anybody out there?

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Dear Dr.Gilbert,
There are quite a few organisations that support art and artistic talents
in Goa. The fact that Goanetters have not responded does not mean that it is
not there. I hoped somebody would respond ,lest I become a busy-body
responding to everything on the net.
For "Teens and Tunes" the present day alternative is the "Talent Touch
down". It's been happening the last few years. The event is held at Kala
Academy for want of a better auditorium.It is not organized by the K.A.
The Fundacao Oriente is alive and kicking in Goa. I can imagine Xac rubbing
his hands with colonial glee. The Fundacao does run casinos in Macau. I dare
say the funds have been put to good use in Goa.
The KBM is launching a Konkani Sangeet Natak Academy. We do have the Konkani
Mogi group that promotes the tiatr.It is 25 years old.
Today is Maestro Antonio Figueiredo's birth centenary. One hundred children
presented a violin recital yesterday and will do again today at Kala
Academy. One of the boys in the group is my son's classmate in Standard IV.I
guess there are more boys and girls his age. The oldest in the hundred may
be about 18 years of age. One hundred violinists fit to come on stage and
play in unison is no mean feat. Music is alive in Goa in the 'bhangra
rap"generation. There were other children who performed with the
Cello,piano,guitar and even on the flute. Some played as many as three
instruments. Tradition of music lives on.There is even the Goa Philharmonic.
Many Goans have dipped their hands into their pockets and pulled out bank
cheques that have not bounced on presentation.May their tribe increase.

Miguel

- Original Message -
From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 I would assume since there was no response from the otherwise
vocal native Goenkars, their answer must be in the negative to both
questions. i.e. other than the Kala Academy that recognizes Goan
artistic talent, we do not have a system of artistic competitions at the
level of the villages and the talukas or in Mumbai as in "amchem tempar"
with the "Teens and Tunes competitions".

The native Goans who do not support "Goans playing the Guitar, Violin,
Mandolin, Cello and Viola" either do not appreciate this music or are
Pobre Fidalgos. And the phoreign Goenkars are taaaking anim taaaking
anim taaaking but nat doing maach. Either way, it is time we "Goans put
our money where our mouth is".

We will soon be classified as 'vodlo mouth Goenkars' who talk a lot anim
bolsan ath ghaluncheak poixe caddunk, bolsam soglim polkim. Many of us
are living a life of 'pobreza' and 'fidalguice' and as my mother would
say "Goenkar borem vodlem Xapotam sangta" (Goenchi Mhunn'nni).







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Re: [Goanet]Nonsence!

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Dear Goanetters,

I think Valmiki has said it all. Fred's dedication is truly to be admired. I
have known him since our school days (He was my junior in St.Britto's) and
learnt a lot about journalism from him. Inspite of his busy schedules
(Goanet,Saligaonet,Aldonanet,Goanet-research are just some of the groups he
helps/moderates) and work (he has to earn a living by writing) and family
(three generations under one roof),he finds time to help others. On 06
September ,he will be in Aldona to help students with writing skills.
Whenever you need him,he is there.He does not have the time.He makes time to
help. That's Fred to you; Rico to us who know him better. Fredrick is what
he was baptized. May his tribe increase.

Miguel
- Original Message -
From: "Valmiki Faleiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Fred writes nonsence as I have often stated that he is a mediocre
> > > journalist.
> > >
> > >  Edgar Martins

>
> I think EM's remarks on FN are unfair and plainly, not founded in fact.
> I had, what in retrospect I consider a privilege, of meeting this budding
> journalist 20 years ago .

 His work, output and its quality, speaks for itself.

 One may not agree with the views or preferences of the man, but at the very
> least, for all the *fukat* time he spends posting news items or digests
one may
> have never chanced across in these days of info-plenty, let us not reward
him with
> unfair and uncharitable brickbats...
>
> As for me, I have no hesitation in showering FN with choicest kudos!
>
> Regards/Valmiki Faleiro



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Re: [Goanet]Deccan Herald -- TRAVEL/GOA)

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Nice piece about Siolim House. Well deserved,too.
"All roads in Goa are as smooth as airport tarmacs". Is this a reference to
the tarmac at Saddam International Airport after the fall of Baghdad ? Goan
roads,specially in July are not 'a dream to drive on': they are any driver's
nightmare, the backhanded praise for the present dispensation
notwithstanding! If you come for the 12th Festival of Plants & Flowers at
Siolim (23-25 Aug),you can experience the dream roads and wake up to the
reality.

Miguel

- Original Message -
From: "deccan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> Let's go visit Siolim House this evening," suggested Rajini Pandit, travel
> agent and my sister-in-law.
>
So, hopping into a Maruti car after tanking up, we hit the
> road to Mapuca. All roads in Goa are as smooth as airport tarmacs and a
> dream to drive on -- a very recent development.



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[Goanet]Re: SANTOSH & S. VERSES, THE FINALE

2003-08-19 Thread Joe Vaz
Santosh Helekar writes:

I would just like to say that I have no interest any more in responding to 
the baseless accusations being made against me on a regular basis by Joe 
Vaz.<


Hi Santosh:

I have no intention of making any baseless accusations against you.  You my 
friend are in a habit of contradicting your own statements.  You have done 
this when debating with others on numerous occasions, and in varying degrees 
on religious subjects.

For this very reason, I produced your exact quotes.  Now if you have 
“selective” amnesia of things you have said, that is truly sad.  However, I 
don’t think it is proper on your part to fix the blame on others.

It is true that one cannot defend the indefensible, and your very own words 
have come to bear testimony of your fallacious statements. The reason why 
you are shying away from explaining your own statements, is amply evident.

For example Santosh said:
[“When I stated in my last post that there are many priests and professors 
who believe as I do, what I meant was that, like me, they regard the 
supernatural events in the scriptures as metaphors or allegories - not 
literal truths.”] 


Joe worte:
What are you exactly saying herein above? Are you telling this audience 
that “many priests regard the supernatural events in the scriptures as 
metaphors or allegories -- not literal truths.”?
You want us to believe you that these men were ordained priests based on 
their belief that the “scriptures” are not literal truths?<


Your subject claim lacks credence or substance, and the rest of what you 
say is invariably subject to validation -- as >in the case of your 
confusing and inaccurate data that baffled the New Rochelle 
students/audience.

Santosh wrote:
[No student or audience member ever pointed out any inaccuracies in the data 
that I had included in my paper.]

I have looked up your past post on “A Migrant's View of Who We Are” and 
noticed that other netters too have pointed out the errors in your post, 
which later in your own admission was inaccurate. I am not blaming you for 
disseminating the erroneous information.  The point I am making is that you 
should realize that your viewpoints are not flawless.  And you imposing your 
personal viewpoints vociferously on others, while making mockery of other 
people’s religious beliefs, is incorrect and largely intolerable.

I hope you will hereinafter ‘cease and desist’ indulging in such activities, 
and show due respect to fellow netters.

Thank you,

Joe Vaz

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Re: [Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #354 - 14 msgs

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Dear Xac,
If someone should martyr you,will you be eating sugar candy or chewing gum
in the other world?

Which specific issue of the Newsweek are you referring to and which page?

Why the Muslim bashing?Practice any faith if you like.Do not practice
anything if you don't. Do avoid religious slurs in either case. It does not
befit a human being...unless you are just being , and not human at all.

Miguel
- Original Message -
From: "Bernado Colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #354 - 14 msgs


> A German scholar who specalises in Koran has now come
> up with the interpretation that after matyrdom Muslims
> will get raisins instead of virgins. This information
> can be found in the Newsweek of a couple of weeks ago.
>
>
>
>
> > Mr. Martins,
> >
> > Muslims revere Jesus Christ as a prophet of God in
> > the same way as they
> > revere the Prophet Muhammad. Therefore, the question
> > of Muslims
> > bashing/abusing Jesus does not arise.
> >
> > Now I fully expect you to respond with twenty
> > different unrelated points.
> >
> > --
> > Tariq Siddiqui
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[Goanet]Re: [Kettle calling ...Ole Xac

2003-08-19 Thread Miguel
Ola,

Oh!Shucks,you missied on the email ID of the Goa CM. It is [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Please refer your grievances on corrupt practices in Goa to him. You can
also ask him how Goa 'feeds the bharati parties to stay in power'. He
belongs to* the* bharati party,the Bharatiya Janata Party, and he is staying
in power longer than the other parties would have wanted him to. Go ahead
and do you job,Senhor Bernado Antonio Salazar Marcel Caetano Colaco. The CMs
email ID is known to you.Why pollute the Goanet with your crap? I am sure
Shri Manohar Parrikar will give you some straight answers. He is not known
to mince words,either.

Cheers,
Miguel

- Original Message -
From: "Bernado Colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Kettle calling the teapot 'black' - You would hang your
head in shame!


> It would be nice if our free lance scribes would
> investigate how Goa fed and feeds the bharati parties
> to stay in power ie.: to win elections in other
> states.
>
>  Xac
>
>
>
> --- Miguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear
> Goanetters,
> > Why do Edgar Martins and Bernado Colaco 'not take on
> > the Goa Government on
> > corrupt practices.' as they would want Fred to.
 The Goa Chief Ministers email ID is [EMAIL PROTECTED] .  It
> > has been mentioned on
> > Goanet before. Let these self proclaimed Journalists
> > use it to their heart's
> > content and cc to Goanet to let us know what they
> > are capable of.
> > Otherwise,they can apologise to Fred ...or just shut
> > up!
> >
> > Et tu Brute? Prove yourself.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Miguel



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Re: [Goanet]Re: "Bogus" Therapies

2003-08-19 Thread Chimbelcho
In a message dated 8/19/2003 12:20:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Paddydes writes:

> 
> What is perceived as safe and effective could actually be bogus and far more 
> >dangerous, like the once wonder drug ACTH, and more recently Resulin (sp)? commonly 
> >prescribed for blood pressure.
>

The above information is false. ACTH is a hormone present in every normal human being. 
Deficiency of ACTH can lead to serious illness and death if not treated. Rezulin was a 
drug used in the treatment of type 2 diabetes. It became obsolete because modern 
medical scientists and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration evaluated its safety 
using the scientific method, and found that there was a reasonable doubt about its 
safety. 

On the other hand, in Ayurveda there is a drug called cowdung (which was used by our 
grandfathers and great grandfathers, and their wives) which has been found to be quite 
unsafe even by anecdotal evidence. But it has still not become obsolete.

Cheers,

Santosh

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[Goanet]Fw: The Times Of Our Lives.

2003-08-19 Thread renebarreto


Picnic, a resounding success!
Founding father launches a new membership drive.

BY GAIL DE CORLA

On Saturday, August 16, 2003, the Goan Association of New York held a picnic
at Hempstead Harbor Park, in Long Island. The site of the picnic contained a
vast grass area, close to a beach and playground. The picnic turned out to
be a huge success, despite the sixteen hour blackout that started Thursday
afternoon. The weather throughout the day was exceptional for a picnic, even
though rain was forewarned. The success of the picnic is largely due to the
joint effort of the 2003 Managing Committee. If the committee hadn't devoted
many hours to planning and perfecting their plans, the two hundred Goans who
showed up would not have had such an amazing day.

The day started with decorating the wooden shed structure where the group
sat during the picnic. Balloons were filled with helium, tablecloths were
spread on tables, food and drinks were carried in, the volleyball net was
set up by volunteers and the stereo and amplifier were assembled. Goans from
New York and neighboring states started arriving at 11:00am. The
entertainment commenced immediately. Dr. Mickey D'Costa, the Vice President,
also played the part of the MC with the help of Brian and Leonie our D.J's.
Goan melodies were played and guests participated in the game "four
corners." The "four corners" were dainty posters of four Goan beaches,
Calangute, Colva, Dona Paula and Anjuna.

After partaking in a dancing competition and regular dancing, our President
Ninette Pardal gave her presidential welcome and lunch was served. The
amount of savory food was so immense that there wasn't even enough room on
the table for all of it at first. Jimmy de Corla-Souza and Cajetan Vaz were
in charge of the food department. Everyone prepared a home cooked authentic
Goan style dish. As people served themselves, they found their plates
overflowing with food before reaching the middle of the table. Numerous
people were heard complementing the different dishes prepared by different
people. Delicious Soma Reserve wines from the tasting session by Alex
Martins of ARA Global Wines, helped liven our taste buds and evoke voracious
appetites.

After lunch, my mother introduced Dr. Gilbert Lawrence and his lovely wife
Philomena the coauthors of Amchi Khobor - Our News Inside Goa. Dr. Gilbert
gave a short, humorous speech on Goan culture. He spoke of the traditions,
religions and his experiences in Goa. In addition, he answered questions
several people had about Goa. Picnickers were intrigued by his strong
feelings on Goa and its culture.

As the day continued, a game of volleyball nearby was almost always being
played. Moreover, in addition to the activities for adults, children were
constantly kept entertained  by Stella D'Sa. Stella organized several relay
races, a game of "Simon Says," a piqata and a game of "pass the parcel." The
children were cooperative and enjoyed themselves. They were given prizes for
every game they won. A random name drawing was made by Deby Couto, and two
boys, Dean and Christopher, received prizes. The three teenagers who
received prizes for writing articles on World Goa Day were Rachelle
Fernandes, Lorenzo Couto and Alisha Couto. Each read their articles out to
the crowd of cheering Goans and were awarded copies of 'Amchi Khobor' as
prizes. Almost everyone took part in a game of Housie. Dr. Mickey, the MC,
was an excellent number caller. The grand prize winner was Ashok Mathias.

Later on "happy birthday" was sung to four folk. The people celebrating
their birthdays were my grandma Deolinda
De Souza, Dr. Melissa Banker, Paul Couto and Stacey Barretto. The chocolate
cake was cut and all of us enjoyed it. Our photographers, Erwin Schumann and
Dr. Violet DeSouza were busy taking pictures of all the activities. As I
write this, they are putting together the pictures to be displayed via
e-mail to all the members. Later in the day, Xavier D'Souza, the founding
father of the Goan Association of New York gave out membership forms for the
association after being introduced by his wife, Marie Bella. Now, as members
Goans can truly feel as if they are part of a great group.

As the day proceeded, the DJ's  Brian and Leonie played numerous Konkani
mandos, while people had a marvelous time singing along. To add to the
delightful music played by them, Jimmy Rustomji, Allan Couto, Dr. Victor De
Sa and
Dr. Mickey D'Costa played the guitar and sang English, Konkani and
Portuguese songs. Carmeline Barretto was as delightful as a nightingale. She
received several encores for her renditions of Lorna's konkani hits. The
first timers and old timers were incredibly impressed. In fact, Basilia
D'Souza, who has been coming to events for over thirty years, openly
announced this was the best picnic she's ever been to.

It is indisputable that the organized group effort of the 2003 Managing
Committee made all the difference. I feel that everyone who worked hard,
behind the scen

[Goanet]BLOCK POP UPS FREE!/?

2003-08-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
The Google tool bar which can be loaded from Google.com apparently offers
block pop ups for free.

Don't shoot the messenger, caveat emptor.

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes



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[Goanet]THE BATTLE WITHIN

2003-08-19 Thread Joe Vaz
THE BATTLE WITHIN

The network which is the mind retains memories, some obvious, some 
subliminal. We bring these to the fore at any given time, like a 
state-of-the-art computer brings forward data. We depend on our mind to make 
decisions, create strategies and inform our choices. The mind is a strong 
presence, and in our culture, the mind is Supreme. We encourage learning, we 
value the intellect, we appreciate advanced technology and we depend on 
science to better our lives. And there is nothing intrinsically wrong with 
that.

However, we are not our minds. In a country of Human Doings, the Human Being 
has been set aside. The quality associated with Being is more subtle, but no 
less powerful. It may not be the actor who takes front stage, instead it is 
behind the scenes, directing the action. It sources from the soul and from 
the heart. It is not rational, it may very well fly in the face of logic, 
yet it is always present and subtly drives us regardless of our ability to 
acknowledge it. We tend to deny our feelings and our intuitions, depending 
more on empirical data to conduct our lives and to validate our choices.  
Annie Besant claims: "Refusal to believe until proof is given is a rational 
position. Denial of all outside of our own limited experience is absurd." 
Our limited experience must expand to include the intangible, some would say 
faith, those things not apparent yet available to us if we truly "see" and 
listen.

Yet we constantly deny the Inner Voice, the Soul Voice, which in its wisdom 
shows us the path to our own personal Truth. This is cause for great 
disharmony. A battle rages between the mind and the soul. What is our Truth 
and what is it based on? How do we incorporate the soul's requirement for 
the sacred in such a secular environment? How can we live a life which 
integrates our essential self and our ego personality? How will we choose 
work which is meaningful yet compensated? How will we run our businesses for 
both profit and integrity?

Thomas Moore in his book, "Care of the Soul" makes the statement that care 
of the Soul is not problem solving, or getting rid of anything. He states, 
"Soul is not a thing, but a quality or a dimension of experiencing life and 
ourselves. It has to do with depth, value, relatedness, heart, and personal 
substance." In this context, we are all able to, and deserve to, live 
integrated, soulful lives which can function well in the world and not at 
the expense of our essential self. We can bring this quality into our work, 
careers, and family lives using intention, awareness, compassion and 
presence. Our minds and souls need not be at odds. Life does not have to be 
the battlefield of struggle for power between mind and soul. Indeed, in our 
personal lives as well as on a global level of mass consciousness, what is 
required for our next evolutionary step is acknowledgement of both sources 
of wisdom and equal respect for empirical and transcendental experiences. 
~Alicia M. Rodriguez

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[Goanet]Beyond Freedom. .........Peter D Souza Secretary of Goan Association of New York

2003-08-19 Thread renebarreto
My Dear Friends,



Thank you all for being here and welcome to our annual picnic - Beyond
Freedom. As you all know, our gathering is a part of GOA DAY celebrations
being heldall over the WORLD, to mark Konkani's inclusion in the Indian
Constitution. "At the stroke of the midnight hour", today became a day after
India's Independence Day.We chose Beyond Freedom as our theme, for yet
another reason.

Goa is the great UNIFIER of all people. Just think about it, you could be a
citizen of India or Pakistan, England or France, Germany or Africa, the U.S.
or Canada and still  be GOAN. You could be Catholic or Hindu, Muslim or
Jew, Parsee or Sikh and still be GOAN.You could be rich or poor, young or
old, educated or have no knowledge of Konkani, dark or fair complexioned
and still be GOAN. Goa transcends all that divides us as human beings.  It
is a state of mind that represents what is best in humanity. It is truly a
concept that lies Beyond Freedom.

This does not imply that we are perfect. We know that there is scope and
a need to improve. But let us focus on  strengths that we are naturally
endowed with and on possibilities. Strategies  that  are sound focus on
strengths rather than attempt to rectify weaknesses.

Today we are not alone. Celebrations are being held across the globe to
preserve our rich GOAN culture and heritage. We are experiencing a
renaissance of our cuisine, literature, music and art. We are a part of
a brotherhood of good human beings around the globe. Our gathering
today is a reflection of that spirit.

We have overcome inertia and have started moving in the right directions.
We must create a map as we travel, for those who will come after us.
And regardless of how long it takes for us to reach our destination;
let us enjoy our journey together.

Have a super day!

Peter DeSouza


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Re: [Goanet]Fred deserves better

2003-08-19 Thread Francisco Colaco
I would also like to place on record my deep
appreciation for all that Fred Noronha is doing.
Though I have never met him in person,I hold him in
high esteem for all he is doing for Goa and Goans. I
have been following his writings closely for many
years whether they concern investigative journalism,
cybernews or anything else. He deserves all praise. I
only hope he doesn't get discouraged from his good
work by any criticism which is part of life of sincere
and intrepid journalists like him.

Francisco Colaco
--- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The vile comments made on GoaNet against Frederick
> Noronha have to 
> condemned by any right thinking person. I have known
> Fred for a few years 
> now, in real life and on the Net. I will not
> hesitate to say that he has 
> done more for Goa and Goans than so many others who
> can merely blast their 
> mouths off, and do precious nothing.
> 
> About two years back there was this controversy
> about Goa Today magazine 
> (with which I was associated at the time) shifting
> over their online 
> edition from Goa-World.Net to GoaCom.Com. I was
> given to understand at the 
> time that Fred had played some dirty politics in
> favour of GoaCom. This 
> resulted in a lot of acrimony between me and him - 
> and a lot of others 
> involved. It was later proved that Fred had nothing
> to do with the 
> incidents and it was just a false story spread by
> certain people with 
> vested interests in harming Fred's reputation.
> 
> Fred and me still have major disagreements on
> various issues but there is 
> no denying that he is a giant among the do-ers in
> the Goan Community. With 
> his humble and self effacing ways he goes about
> building community links, 
> informing us about issues, and working till the wee
> hours towards a better 
> tomorrow for Goa and Goans. Criticising a person's
> statements is one thing 
> and attacking him as a person is another.
> 
> As Fred himself says, "Let us agree to disagree",
> but such venomous 
> attacks, as have been recently forthcoming, are
> despicable and I think have 
> to be condemned by any right thinking Goan,
> specially those of us who 
> inhabit the cyber Goan community.
> 
> I hold Fred in the highest esteem for all the good
> that he does. There are 
> thousands of us Goans who have someway benefited
> from Fred's hard work. I 
> myself can say that despite our differences in
> opinion...
> (a) Fred has always been encouraging me in my
> 'writing' endeavors
> (b) Fred has often given me advise on
> Computer/Internet issues.
> (c) Fred has helped Aldonkars time and again with
> his expertise and 
> contacts - to secure funds and form and manage
> online communities.
> (d) Fred's articles have often inspired me to do
> further research or pursue 
> a particular line of thinking.
> (e) Etc, etc
> 
> Consider for a moment that Fred does all this for
> free, without seeking any 
> payment, then you will realise that he is NOT a
> mediocre journalist but 
> rather an 'extraordinary' human being.
> 
> Keep up the good work Fred, and don't let these
> pesky irrelevant pests 
> bother you.
> 
> Cecil
> ===
> 
> 
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[Goanet]Nobel Prize in Journalism

2003-08-19 Thread George Pinto
If there was one, Fred Noronha would win.  Every year. Thank you Fred for tireless, 
selfless
efforts on behalf of Goa & Goans.
 
George
 


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[Goanet]National Maritime Museum wish you all a Happy World Goa Day

2003-08-19 Thread renebarreto







FROM THE PAST TO THE FUTURE.




I am pleased to announce that the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich,
England, will launch the PorCities web site (www.portcities.org.uk) on the
22nd September 2003. For the first time (in history) A British national
institution has provided a web-site article on the Goans. The Goans are
featured as one of several communities in the port of London. It is
fascinating to see and read about our 400 year history with the capital of
Britain. The narrative will be featured in Latin script Konkani and will
therefore also be a first for a British institution. The main researcher for
the communities in the port of London is Kenya-born historian Cliff Pereira.


On behalf of the National Maritime Museum I wish you all a
Happy World Goa Day.


Cliff Pereira
www.portcities.org.uk

00
FOR DETAILS ON
WORLD GOA DAY 2OO3
WWW.GOADAY.COM




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Re: [Goanet]Nonsence and more!

2003-08-19 Thread marlon menezes
Ole_Xac,

Fred has his way of doing things and Aires has his own
style. Their work is not mutually exclusive. On the
other hand, why dont you put down your cup of tea, get
off your rocking chair and fight for your cause of
Goan independence and eviction of those "outsiders"
who have "contaminated" goa. Alternatively, put your
money where your mouth is and pay someone to do it for
you. BTW, when you talk of the "outsiders", is that
code for the non-christians who have "invaded" Goa
since 1961. 

As for the other criticisms of Fred, they are not
worth responding to.

Marlon


--- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fred,
> 
> It is Aires Rodrigues who has the courage to speak
> up.
> It is Aires Rodrigues who is doing your job! Add
> more
> links about conversion theories to your web site.
> That
> is what Goans want to read! You chaps have deleted
> my
> post on the Customs story!
> 
> Colaço


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[Goanet]GOA SET TO CELEBRATE WORLD GOA DAY 2003

2003-08-19 Thread renebarreto




-Original Message-





From: Simon D'Silva
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 qatar-goans GOA SET TO
CELEBRATE WORLD GOA DAY 2003




The Goan Overseas Association (GOA), Qatar is all set to organise "WORLD GOA
DAY" on 20th August 2003 with the Holy Mass offered by G.O.A. at the Parish
Centre at 7.00 p.m., and thereafter the official Konkani Language Course
Launching Ceremony at the Doha Palace Hotel at 8.00 p.m.


"THE KONKANI LANGUAGE COURSE LAUNCHING CEREMONY" will be held at the hands
of Mr. M. C. Naithani, Counsellor at the Indian Embassy who will be the
Chief Guest. The Guests of Honour will be Mr. Walter Dias - Acting Area
Manager at Gulf Air, Fr. Jose Thachukunnel - Assistant Parish Priest of
Catholic Missions Qatar, Mr. Basil Coutinho - Commercial Manager at
Commercial Bank, and Mr. Rui Fernandes, a prominent Konkani lover.


Mr. Eddie Sequeira of Gulf Times who is a konkani writer, actor, director
and poet, and Mr. Alex Gonsalves, Managing Director of Refrigeration World
and Marine Services will be the Special Guests.


Konkani is the official language of GOA and the theme of "Giving back to
Goa" is a good way to inspire the Goan community to do more for Goa and
Goans worldwide. On this occasion G.O.A. has given the call to Goans
"KONKANI ULOI, KONKANI BOROI ANI NIZ GOENKAR MHUNNON SOUNSARAK DAKHOI"


More details can he had from Simon D'Silva on 5550491, John De Sa on 5214047
and Camillo Fernandes on 5850405.


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Re: [Goanet]Re: Human rights activisit from Mumbai in Toronto

2003-08-19 Thread Eugene Correia
Hi Victor,

I don't know if I mentioned her name. She is Teesta
Setalvad, co-editor of Communalism Combat. She spoke
yesterday on many issues, including the Gujarat
carnage.
Sometime back she had won the Fr. Parmananda Divarkar
Award from the Xavier's Communication Centre.

Eugene

--- Bosco - Goanet Volunteer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:35:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 8/16/2003 3:02:43 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> >> Mumbai's well-known journalist/human rights
> activist and co-editor of 
> >> Communalism Combat will be on panel
> 
> 
> Enlighten me, Gene, who are you talking about?  I'm
> not in touch with the
> situation over there, and would really like to know.
> 
> Best regards,
> Victor
> 
> 
> 
> World Goa Day - 20-August - www.goaday.com
> 
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[Goanet]South Goa Human Rights court indicts police officer for grossviolations

2003-08-19 Thread Goa Desc
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Even as the High Court has called for an inquiry into the Taleigao
parading incident, the Human Rights Court, South has severely
indicted the then duty officer of Margao police station for gross
violation of human rights by "hand-cuffing" and "parading" a citizen
from Borda in the year 1994.
"The conduct of PSI P Shirwaikar in ensuring that the petitioner
was taken in handcuffs to hospitals and then kept in handcuffs
and in fetters, when the petitioner was admitted in GMC was the
most inhuman treatment given to the petitioner and a gross violation
of human rights", observed Sessions Judge, Nelson A Britto, who
has completed the inquiry into the parading and handcuffing incident
following High Court directions. The findings has now been forwarded
to the High Court for action.
"The word "touch" in section 46 of CrPC appears to mean "handcuff"
in the terminology of Margao Town police station. However, the taking
out of the petitioner from the police station in handcuffs was done only
to humiliate the petitioner and to please Akthar Khan", Judge Britto said.
In this case, the petitioner, Antonio Sebestiao Mervyn Degbert
de Piedade Pacheco approached the High Court with a petition that
on April 28, 1994 and May 1, 1994, he was illegally arrested, handcuffed
and humiliated, thereby violating his fundamental human rights under
Article 21 of the Constitution.
The findings of the Human Rights court has pointed out that neither the
arrest nor the handcuffing of the petitioner was legal and justified.
On the contrary, the court answered in the affirmative that the petitioner
was handcuffed, taken in a jeep to residence and paraded on the road
adjoining his house in handcuffs in full view of the public.
Again, the court answered in the affirmative to the petitioner's allegation
that no vehicle was provided to him to take him to Hospicio hospital and
on the contrary he was paraded on the streets of Margao in handcuffs
from police station to Margao post office.
The petitioner's case is that he is the owner of a property and there
exists a civil dispute between him and the legal heirs of one Adam Khan
concerning the house situated in the property. The petitioner claimed
that on April 28, 1994, Akthar Khan, who is alleged to be a police driver,
claiming to be the heir of Adam Khan, allegedly committed a trespass
and other acts.
Antonio alleged when he went to the police station to lodge his complaint,
he was dissuaded from doing so and was later put behind bars by the
police acting upon the complaint of Akthar Khan and others.
On the police defence that the petitioner got violent and tried to push
the constables, Judge Britto observed, "It is obvious that the petitioner
was handcuffed not because he was required to be handcuffed for
attempting to escape or he had become aggressive, but only to display
the power of PSI Shirwaikar as a police inspector and to satisfy the
perverse intention of the said Akthar in seeing the petitioner handcuffed".
On the petitioner's arrest for the second time on May 5, the court
observed, "It is rather unfortunate that the respondents should have
handcuffed for the second time the petitioner, who was sweating and
was having palpitations and was medically advised to be admitted to
Hospicio", adding "that the petitioner was taken in handcuffs to the
hospitals and then kept tied to the hospital bed, is the most inhuman
act PSI Shirwaikar could have committed, more so when the petitioner
had not committed any offence whatsoever.
The court also accepted the story of the petitioner that he was made
to wear dirty clothes and was not provided with food or water when
he was inside the lock-up for more than an hour. The petitioner had
further claimed that he was refused to phone his people at home or
contact his lawyer, adding that the police threatened to lock him in the
cell for 48 hours so that he may lose his job, as he was a government
employee. Adv C Mascarenhas appeared for the petitioner.

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[Goanet]Molestation:Independence Day rehearsals turn ugly for a school boy

2003-08-19 Thread Goa Desc
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Sancorda boy molested
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27 year-old man from Navawada-Sancorda has been accused of paedophilia,
after he allegedly molested a school boy at Sancorda, Collem police said.
According to police reports, the parents of the school boy had invited the
accused, Dinanath Shankar Sawant, on August 14 to supervise their son's
singing rehearsals, as he was to participate in a contest at the school
on Independence Day.
As the rehearsal ended late in the evening, Dinanath requested the parents
to permit him to spend the night at their residence in Sancorda.The parents
agreed to the request and even asked their son to accompany Dinanath to
the bedroom.
As the boy was asleep, Dinanath allegedly began to fondle the boy's private 
parts.
The boy woke up in pain and reported the matter to the parents.The parents took
serious note of the incident, but did not report the matter to the Collem 
police
for the next two days.

But when the boy continued to feel the pain in his genital area, the 
parents took
their son to the doctor and on August 16, lodged a police complaint.

Taking opportunity of the two-day delay in filing of the complaint, the accused
disappeared from the area and is absconding. Collem police is on the lookout
for the accused, as investigations are in progress.
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[Goanet]Apathy towards pesticide poisoning, consumers in Goa need to get active

2003-08-19 Thread Goa Desc
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Consumers got another bolt recently when the Centre for Science
and Environment (CSE), a Delhi-based NGO recently revealed that
the level of pesticides in 12 different brands of cold drinks contain
pesticides and heavy metals in excess of permissible limits set by
European Union.
Four of the pesticides found in India are extremely toxic, which in the
long run could cause cancer and damage the nervous and reproductive
system, among other hassles. Few months earlier to the surprise of
consumers it was found that bottled water available in India is unhealthy.
CSE won its spurs by bringing down pollution level in Delhi just six months
ago, the CSE‘s tests of bottled drinking water sold by MNCs revealed levels
of toxity that would not meet international regulations. It has pointed out
that norms set for soft drink industry are so weak that it is impossible to
take legal action even for a serious lapse. The standards set for ensuring
the quality of food products and the procedures exhibit scandalous lacuna.
It is clear that the Bureau of Indian Standards and other government bodies
are actually napping. The matter falls between different ministries, even after
so much hue and cry bottled water companies have not changed their
manufacturing process to ensure water purity.
In fact in April this year, the Supreme Court issued notices to five central
government ministries on a public interest petition regulation on the use
of pesticides. The petitioner, Strishty — an NGO working in the area of toxins
and their effect on the environment and human health, expressed serious
concern over alarming high levels of pesticide contamination in foods such
as wheat, milk, tea, edible oil, fish, vegetables and fruits.
Inspite of consistent efforts by the NGOs, research institutions and others
the problem is assuming serious dimensions in the country. As rightly pointed
by the CSE director, these MNCs operate within the prevalent food laws in 
India,
but they exercise double standards, as their products in US contain no 
pesticides.

The problem with soft drinks manufactured in India is that the raw materials
source is groundwater and the groundwater in India contains pesticides.
The charge is that the MNCs are not treating the groundwater adequately
to bring down the pesticides.
According to CSE, they do not have the technology here to treat the water.
And ironically in India, water has not been given the food status and hence it
escapes various laws and supply regulations. If it were otherwise, agencies
responsible for supplying drinking water would have been forced to comply
with purity and quality standards.
The problem of pesticides in food and water is well known. The question is
who is doing something about it. The virtual absence of regulatory framework
to control the amount of pesticides is nothing less than constitutional 
violation,
which guarantees the right to life. Further it is the state, which is under 
obligation
to protect and improve the public health. The soft drinks issue has once again
exposed the power of the state to safeguard its citizens.

Large section of the population cannot hold any institution of the country
accountable for the quality. This has made it easier for the MNCs to dump
poor quality products on us. The CSE‘s report indicates that the same companies
comply with the highest quality standards in US. The time has now come
for a stricter regulation.
The pesticide industry is busy lobbying with the government to prevent stricter
regulation. In early June, the Indian Chemicals Manufacturing Association
issued a statement not to ratify Stockholm Convention, as the legally binding
treaty would be detrimental to the health of the Indian chemical industry.
It is to be hoped that the Supreme Court would favourably consider the demand
for setting up food safety counsel with powers to ensure that all food sold is
free from pesticides.
The ball is now in the court of the consumers. Real change can take place
if the public shed their apathy and take more active interest in the issue.
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[Goanet]Chartered Train with 12 bogies/850 pax arrived in Goa.

2003-08-19 Thread JperGOA
Today's Navhind Times

NT Staff Reporter 

Panaji Aug 18: The chartered flights landing in the state, carrying 
tourists from foreign countries, is not new to Goa and Goans, but a chartered train 
that arrived at Margao today was something new which attracted everyone’s  
attention, particularly of those in the tourism industry.

The train with 12 bogies, arrived with 850 people on board at Margao this 
afternoon from Rajkot in Gujarat, opening a new chapter in the tourism field.
This is for the first time in the history of tourism in the state, that a 
full train was chartered to carry tourists.

The tourists hailing from Saurashtra region of Gujarat will be celebrating 
Janmashtami festival here. All the hotels where the tourists have been put up have 
made special itinerary for celebration of the Janmashtami, including   holding of 
pooja tomorrow.

The holidaymakers, who arrived after a 23-hour journey, will return home 
on August 23 by the same train. According to organisers of the charter, the train 
journey from Rajkot to Margao takes 20 hours normally, but due to recent train tragedy 
the speed of the train was reduced during the night as precautionary measure.

According to the tourism director, Mr N Nanarayana this is a new concept 
in promotion of tourism, which had been developed by the marketing team of Cidade de 
Goa along with Favourite Tours and Forex Pvt Ltd. Nearly half of the chartered 
tourists (400) arriving by train have been put up at Cidade de Goa.

According to the organisers, this unique concept opens up a host of 
opportunities to bring in such trains with domestic tourists from other parts of the 
country, particularly during the monsoon season.

On efforts for tourism promotion, Mr Suryanarayana said the tourism 
department had launched a drive to attract tourists not only during the monsoon  
season but other lean eriods with various campaigns, including endorsementof Goa as 
tourists destination by celebrities including Dino Morrea and Perizad Zorabian.

Besides, 10 and 30 second commercials would be telecast on all major 
channels, including Star Plus, Star Gold, Star News, Zee Cinema, Zee News,Sahara and 
Setmax, to attract tourists to the state, said the tourism director.

The Goa Tourism will be the presenting sponsor for the Miss Indian 
International scheduled to be held on August 25 and aired on Star Plus on August 31. 
This is likely to attract a large number of tourist to the state, Mr Suryanarayana 
told The Navhind Times.

He also stated that various other measures, including electronic brochure 
containing high resolution images of state tourists places, had been initiated by his 
department to woo tourists.

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[Goanet]August is an eventful month.

2003-08-19 Thread renebarreto



My appologies to the many Goans on this Forum who
 have sent me  emails in the last three days or so , I 
will reply to each  and every one of you shortly.

My computer was * sick *  but its up and runing now.
It does every August.


To you Fred , Keep smiling , we know you better , you 
have been with us for the last five ? years , you thrive on
 * criticsim * you come out stronger every time.   -: ) 

Keep:- )ing    rene barreto

OO0

IF YOU ARE SORRY now , its too late .
If you have done it , NEVER feel SORRY now , its too late.
Think before you do , not after.

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[Goanet]SEETAPHAL

2003-08-19 Thread Gabe Menezes



> Ata in Bengal and Seetaphal in most other parts of India,
> the Sugar Apple (Annona squamosa) is one of the  most
> popular fruits in India. 
> 
> ANNONA: Annona is named in arabic (keshta) or in common
> arabic (Eshta) meaning the flesh texture looks like the
> white cream of milk.
> SQUAMOSA: Scaly


Query:

Looks similar to Custard Apple is it the same thing or are they related?

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes



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[Goanet]Re: Please Help

2003-08-19 Thread Michael D''''''''''''''''souza
 Dear Sir,

 Iam looking for a good job, my resume is attached in this mail I'am looking
  for a job which will pay me a good salary, as i'am the only working member
  in the family with 4 sister mother is a house wife & my father is on bed.
 At
  present i'am working for a small firm but that is going to be closed soon
 so
  i will be requiring a good job soon. I'am totally confused what to do, i
  feel that god is just playing with my life, he is not showing me the right
  part. Please if you can provide any help to me. Please reply back to me as
  i'am desperately in need og a job. please do not return this mail
  unanswered.

  Thanking You,

  Michael D'souza.

 The salary mentioned in the earlier is for the companies which i send mails
 in the hope that they will think that i have a high salary & keep me for a
 similar salary.

 Please sir i know that you can help, so please help me sir.






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[Goanet]SEETAPHAL et Chillies

2003-08-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
>
> The impact of this discovery is so enormous that
> historians are still trying to assess the prospective
> monumental task of re-writing history.
>
> Here are 2 of my photos of Sugar Apples growing here
> in Florida:
>
> A common type:
>   http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/SApple71ASIT
> A Red type:
>   http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/SAred35ASIT
> 
> Asit K. Ghosh
> Rockledge, Florida, USA
> Tuesday - 4:40am


Response:

What about chillies? The Chinese claim that Chillies grew in the Sichuan
province of China for years before the Portuguese arrived. Could it be the
case for India as well, that we too had Chillies growing well before the
Portuguese arrived and are unduly crediting them with having introduced it
to us?


Cheers,

Gabe Menezes



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[Goanet]107 fall victim to jaundice,Goa Health Minister says its Hepatitis E

2003-08-19 Thread GOACAN
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Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660
Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Press clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/
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107 fall victim to jaundice
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In a belated action, the State government is undertaking damage-control
measures as more than 100 persons have fallen victim to viral Hepatitis
(jaundice) in the last few days.
While the main cause of this sudden spurt of viral Hepatitis cases is not 
known,
officials of the Directorate of Health Services (DHS) strongly link it to the
sewerage water entering into the potable water pipeline in the heart of
Panjim more than two weeks ago.

As the incubation period of jaundice is between 15 days and two months,
it is feared that the present number of victims may be just the tip of the 
iceberg.
Officials however say that it is "localised only to Panjim."

Officials said that most of the victims were customers of the restaurants
which received contaminated water. The restaurants' potable water supply
which was polluted due to the contamination with the sewerage pipeline,
is considered to be the main cause of spreading the viral hepatitis.
After the contamination was detected near Azad Maidan, the PWD
on the advice of its public health engineering wing, had stopped water supply
to the entire area and the restaurants are being supplied water by tankers.
At least five eateries were affected by the contamination. The victims who
spoke to the doctors said that they drank water in these restaurants.
The official figure of patients afflicted by the viral Hepatitis is 107.
Of these, 35 are taking treatment from the Goa Medical College Hospital
while the rest are being treated by private hospitals.
Among the first few victims was the director of Information and Publicity,
Mr Rajesh Singh who was later treated at GMC. DHS officials fear that the
staff members of the respective restaurants too may add up to the list of
patients in the coming days as they drink potable water and not boiled water.
Some private pathological labs have confirmed that the victims are of
Hepatitis E. However, for formal confirmation, serum samples have been
dispatched to National Institute of Virology (NIV), Pune.
Though more than two weeks have passed since contamination of water
was detected in Panjim, the authorities did practically nothing to advise
the public not to drink water in the restaurants which had received
contaminated water or to take other measures, until a spurt in jaundice
case was reported.
Whether water sampling of the affected restaurants was done then is also
not known. "As water contamination came through the government-supplied
water pipeline, it was the responsibility of the government to caution the 
citizens",
said an agitated relative of a patient.

Health Minister, Dr Suresh Amonkar who held a high-level meeting at the
Secretariat to review what could be called a near-epidemic situation in 
Panjim,
said the cases appear to be of Hepatitis E. It has been spread through the
sewerage water, he stated. "We are taking all necessary measures", he claimed.
Tests conducted have revealed the presence of e-coli in the water in one of 
the
restaurants, he disclosed.

Incidentally, one restaurant was sealed some days ago after its water was
also found contaminated with sewage water (due to its internal faulty system)
However, it was allowed to be re-opened by the authorities concerned who
found that its management had taken necessary measures.
Dr Amonkar told Herald that around ten restaurants were today inspected 
jointly
by officials of Health department and Food and Drugs Administration (FDA).

DHS does not have the exact number of persons afflicted by jaundice virus.
This is attributed by the officials to the non-intimation by private hospitals
to the DHS. "Hardly 35 per cent of the patients go to the GMC. The rest have
taken treatment in private hospitals", an official stated.
Dr Rajendra Tamba, State's epidemiologist, obtained the number of the patients
by personally visiting some private hospitals in the city.
According to the DHS, viral hepatitis is caused by contaminated water and
food and it causes symptoms such as fever, bodyache, loss of appetite,
morbidity, yellow eyes and urine. The virus is destroyed only by boiling 
water.
The virus doesn't get killed
by chlorination of water.

The public is advised to contact the nearest health centre or the
State Epidemiologist, Directorate of Health Services, Campal personally
or on Ph 2225538 or e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Goanet]Malar Bonderam 17th August 2003 - Photos by Beatrice Pinto

2003-08-19 Thread Cecil Pinto
Check out the latest Malar Bonderam photos at:

http://www.goa-world.com/bonderam/

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[Goanet]Fred deserves better

2003-08-19 Thread Cecil Pinto
The vile comments made on GoaNet against Frederick Noronha have to 
condemned by any right thinking person. I have known Fred for a few years 
now, in real life and on the Net. I will not hesitate to say that he has 
done more for Goa and Goans than so many others who can merely blast their 
mouths off, and do precious nothing.

About two years back there was this controversy about Goa Today magazine 
(with which I was associated at the time) shifting over their online 
edition from Goa-World.Net to GoaCom.Com. I was given to understand at the 
time that Fred had played some dirty politics in favour of GoaCom. This 
resulted in a lot of acrimony between me and him -  and a lot of others 
involved. It was later proved that Fred had nothing to do with the 
incidents and it was just a false story spread by certain people with 
vested interests in harming Fred's reputation.

Fred and me still have major disagreements on various issues but there is 
no denying that he is a giant among the do-ers in the Goan Community. With 
his humble and self effacing ways he goes about building community links, 
informing us about issues, and working till the wee hours towards a better 
tomorrow for Goa and Goans. Criticising a person's statements is one thing 
and attacking him as a person is another.

As Fred himself says, "Let us agree to disagree", but such venomous 
attacks, as have been recently forthcoming, are despicable and I think have 
to be condemned by any right thinking Goan, specially those of us who 
inhabit the cyber Goan community.

I hold Fred in the highest esteem for all the good that he does. There are 
thousands of us Goans who have someway benefited from Fred's hard work. I 
myself can say that despite our differences in opinion...
(a) Fred has always been encouraging me in my 'writing' endeavors
(b) Fred has often given me advise on Computer/Internet issues.
(c) Fred has helped Aldonkars time and again with his expertise and 
contacts - to secure funds and form and manage online communities.
(d) Fred's articles have often inspired me to do further research or pursue 
a particular line of thinking.
(e) Etc, etc

Consider for a moment that Fred does all this for free, without seeking any 
payment, then you will realise that he is NOT a mediocre journalist but 
rather an 'extraordinary' human being.

Keep up the good work Fred, and don't let these pesky irrelevant pests 
bother you.

Cecil
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[Goanet]Deccan Herald -- CPI alleges rights violations of migrant labour

2003-08-19 Thread deccan
deccan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

CPI alleges rights violation of migrant labour in Goa

Devika Sequeira
DH News Service PANAJI, July 29

Fifty-year old Shernappa, a labourer from Karnataka, who allegedly committed
suicide by hanging earlier this week here, has become a mere statistic in
Goa police records.

But to the unorganised migrant labour sector, his case is representative of
the gross mistreatment and abuse they constantly endure from the Goa police,
purely because they are 'outsiders'.

Matters came to a flashpoint on July 25, when labour leader and CPI Goa
General Secretary Christopher Fonseca led a spontaneous march to the Panjim
police headquarters to protest the labourer's death. Mr Fonseca and a 40-odd
band of casual labour were later arrested.

Quoting an autopsy report, the police says Shernappa committed suicide, in
his village of residence, and his body bore no external injuries.

But Mr Fonseca argues that the casual labourer from Karnataka, who had
settled in Goa Velha, was 'driven to suicide by police excesses'.

Shernappa had been living in Goa for over 10 years and was well liked in the
village, where he earned a living doing odd-jobs. The village is equally
shocked by his death, he says.

"Whenever a theft or robbery is reported, it is the non-Goan labour that is
singled out and terrorised."

Shernappa and some other labourers were picked up and mercilessly
interrogated at the Agassaim police station over five days after reported
thefts in the vicinity of the police station, the AITUC leader says. He
alleges the police employed third degree methods to intimidate them.

There were "compelling circumstances" to push Shernappa to kill himself, he
believes.

A day after the labour leader stormed the police headquarters to protest the
"dehumanising" treatment of migrant labour, local newspapers reported that
over 250 non-Goan workers had been rounded up for questioning in Pernem
taluka, after a series of armed dacoities in the area.

It is estimated that close to 50,000 construction and quasi-construction
workers have settled in Goa over the years. Though they are largely
cosmopolitan, the majority originate from Karnataka.

"They contribute to Goa's wealth and productivity. They also contribute to
the GMP of the village they live in. How can you just throw them out?" Mr
Fonseca asks.

The All India Trade Union Congress (AITUC) is lobbying for a bill to protect
the rights of the 30,000 workers in the unorganised sector in Goa, on the
lines of the ones implemented by Madhya Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala and Tamil
Nadu.

Mr Fonseca says the proforma for tenants, imposed by the BJP government here
smacked of "fascist designs".

The proforma had become another tool of harassment in police hands and was
being used only against the labour class. "People should have a right to go
anywhere in the country," he points out.


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Re: [Goanet]Gomantaktimes no longer available on line??

2003-08-19 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Earlier editor Ashwin Tombat used to be more cyber-savvy. I don't think 
they have been updating it for some time. Navhind Times and Herald update 
fairly regularly though. Gaspar, who has been handling the Navhind site, 
has been doing a good job. FN

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> Can any body help?
> 
> Tried to log in but it give me outsadted pages saying last updated 
> Februay and so on
> 
> thanks for your help
> Joe
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[Goanet]SEETAPHAL

2003-08-19 Thread The Thaumaturgist
Ata in Bengal and Seetaphal in most other parts of India,
the Sugar Apple (Annona squamosa) is one of the  most
popular fruits in India. 

ANNONA: Annona is named in arabic (keshta) or in common
arabic (Eshta) meaning the flesh texture looks like the
white cream of milk.
SQUAMOSA: Scaly

Today, India boasts the most acreage in the world 
for production although it can also be found growing 
in the wild in many parts of India.

The Portuguese have been duly credited by historians 
for bringing Sugar Apple, among other things, into India
from Brazil around the beginning of the 16th century. 

Until Mrs. Shakti M. Gupta wrote her book.

Indologist and Ethnobotanist of Delhi University, Mrs.
Shakti M. Gupta confirms the presence of Maize and at 
least five (5) other New World plants in Pre-Columbian
temple sculptures in India in her book,
 
PLANTS IN INDIAN TEMPLE ART 
B.R. Publishing Corp, 
New Delhi, 1996.

Ms. Gupta found definitive Sugar Apple sculptures at
temples at, 

(1) Bharhut, 2nd century B.C., 

(2) Kakatiya, Karnataka, 12th century A.D. (pp. 19-20). 

SO, THEN WHO BROUGHT SUGAR APPLE TO INDIA?
 
The impact of this discovery is so enormous that
historians are still trying to assess the prospective
monumental task of re-writing history.

Here are 2 of my photos of Sugar Apples growing here 
in Florida:

A common type:
  http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/SApple71ASIT
A Red type:
  http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/SAred35ASIT

Asit K. Ghosh
Rockledge, Florida, USA
Tuesday - 4:40am



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[Goanet]Website - Lokanchim Tondam Bondh...!

2003-08-19 Thread LARA Production Entertainment
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Re: [Goanet]Irritating-Citibank-junk mail or pop-up window/screens

2003-08-19 Thread Werner Fernandes
u can use alexa.com
it has pop-up block manager

- Original Message -
From: "Vincente Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Irritating-Citibank-junk mail or pop-up window/screens


> >
>  > Can any one help??
>  >
>  > Every time I try log to Indian Web sites, first thing i get is the
> Citybank pop-up windows, its really a night mare.
>  >
>  > How can I stop this?? can any body help??
>
> I have been using Norton Internet Security for some time now, it does
comes
> inbuilt with Ad Blocking, antivirus etc.
>
> _
> Help protect your PC: Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com.
> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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[Goanet]Ask Manu Uncle

2003-08-19 Thread Cecil Pinto
Manu Uncle gives commonsense answers to logical and ethical queries on 
relationships, sex, marriage & dating (Goa related). Queries can be sent 
c/o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Your identity will be kept totally confidential.

(Moral dilemmas, on the other hand, can be directed to 'Dear Aunty' at 
Gomantak Times Weekender magazine section.)

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Question
---
Manu Uncle,

I am 26 year old Catholic boy from Anjuna working for private firm in 
Mapusa. Recently I attended a relative wedding reception in Margao and met 
one 22 year old Hindu girl from Sanvordem. We have met twice again lately 
at family function. I am interested in her. She also is interested in me. 
But her parents want her to marry her cousin. We are planning to get 
married secretly. Do you think I am doing the right thing?

Confused Ciprian



Dear Ciprian,

No! You are definitely not doing the right thing. Why on earth are you 
working for a private firm in Mapusa? Anjuna is a haven for young 
entrepreneurs. Buy a couple of Kinetic Scooters. Give them out on hire to 
foreigners. With the proceeds buy a few second-hand Enfield Bullets.  Give 
these too out to Israelis. Take a bank loan with the help of your friendly 
local panch. Buy a Maruti Van. Give it to your cousin to drive. Put up a 
beachside shack. Live in this shack. Rent out your home to Israelis. Get real!

On the other matter of the girl. Do you even know where Sanvordem is? Or 
what makes it different from Curchorem? See! And you want to 'secretly 
marry'! Did you study Geography at all? What do you mean by 'interested'? 
So you go on a secret date. She meets you at her cousin's place in Ponda 
and then you come to Samrat Theatre in Panjim to watch 'Koi Mil Gaya'. And 
the noisy kid sitting at your right keeps shouting that he wants to go 
home. The love of your pathetic life will not hold your hand, even during 
the real tear-wrenching scenes. After the interval you find the noisy kids 
lollipop stuck to your sleeve. Back to Ponda and then alone to Anjuna. And 
what if it's raining? I hope you have your own two wheeler at least. Don't 
even think of a date using public transportation. Now after a few such 
dates you might find the nice girl next door at Anjuna much more 'interesting'.

If your query was related to your differences in religion, then don't 
bother. If you seriously learn to love each other then don't let that 
matter stop you. These things work themselves out. Soon as the first kid is 
born all will be reconciled. Be warned however that if you choose not to 
have kids, or cannot have kids for whatever reason, then both your families 
will dig up all sorts of dirt. Including religious differences.

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Re: [Goanet]Nonsence and more!

2003-08-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
Fred,

It is Aires Rodrigues who has the courage to speak up.
It is Aires Rodrigues who is doing your job! Add more
links about conversion theories to your web site. That
is what Goans want to read! You chaps have deleted my
post on the Customs story!

Colaço


 --- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Hi "Bernado" and team: 
> 
> You guys are shifting the goal-posts all the time,
> making it difficult for 
> me to keep up ;-) 
> 
> Being mediocre is one thing. Writing nonsense (or
> 'nonsence') is another. 
> Forwarding (or 're-producing') articles is something
> quite different 
> charge. Opting out of writing on the political
> scenario (in the 
> already politics-overloaded newspapers here) is
> another matter. Sending 
> in articles "irrelevant" to Goa is another charge.
> Garbage (of the verbal 
> sort) or wasting readers' time is a different
> matter.
> 
> Added to that we have the allegation of not being
> dedicated to a 
> profession. Just to make sure no escape points are
> left out, throw in the 
> view of someone spending much time on "Portuguese
> bashing for so many 
> years". The fear to speak out is a totally different
> issue from those 
> raised above. 
> 
> So what are you'll guys saying? Any stick is good
> enough to beat a dog 
> with, eh? Thanks anyway, as such criticism does help
> to keep us guys on 
> track ;-) FN
> 
> PS: I've had my say... no point flogging a dead
> horse ;-) 
> 
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Bernado Colaco wrote:
> 
> > What's the point of being a journalist if one is
> not
> > dedicated to his profession. Fred has spent his
> time
> > on Portuguese bashing for so many years. May be he
> is
> > scared to speak about 'ground zero' as he states
> in an
> > article on colaco.net. Is the press free in
> > 'democratic' Goa?
> 
> 
> >  --- "Frederick Noronha (FN)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Fred writes nonsence as I have often stated
> that
> > > he is a mediocre 
> 
> > > > journalist. Why does he not take on the Goa
> > > Government on corrupt 
> > > > practices, and the political scenario in Goa.
> > > Always re-produces 
> > > > articles from Asian Age irrelevent to Goa.
> Since
> > > when have Sikhs become 
> > > > Goans? Garbage Fred. Unadulterated garbage
> > > compelling Goans to waste 
> > > > time reading nonsence.
> 
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[Goanet]RE: [Goanet-news]Goanet Highlights - 16Aug03

2003-08-19 Thread Prasad Vaman Raicar

Hi Bosco,
  I would like to tyr out Goanet. Plesae put my name on the list.
Thanks,
Prasad Raicar,
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Subject: [Goanet-news]Goanet Highlights - 16Aug03


As Goanet News Digest subscribers you have been missing the lively
debate/articles on Goanet. Here are some links to them:

Orlando Gomes, former Times of India employee, passes away
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/message/4897

Chris Perry & Lorna (Part I)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/message/4908

Chris Perry & Lorna (Part II)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/message/4910

Chris Perry & Lorna (Part III)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/message/4966

Subsequent commentary and debate from various Goenkars pursued the above
messages re the Goan culture in Mumbai/Bombay.

Now coming to Goa - Slums!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/message/5010

Goanet... a youngster at 10
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goanet2003/message/5030

These are just a sample of the discussions/debate on Goanet. Goanet
sends out on
average 20-25 messages a day. It is also available in Digest form - 2-3
messages
a day. The Digest form is always recommended. You are encouraged to
sign-up for
Goanet instead of Goanet-News Digest. If you would like to try Goanet,
please
email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or myself.


World Goa Day - 20-August - www.goaday.com


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Re: [Goanet]Firing guns from a journalist's shoulders?

2003-08-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
Edgar,

Parrikar is just an other weightless pawn in this
great bharati conspiracy of corruption in Goa. There
is a whole bharati mafia operating in Goa. Sadly our
famous free lancers spend time on conversion topics
and Portuguese bashing. 

It is time for Goans to wake up. Non resident Goans do
not invest in Goa unless we are free from this bharati
conspiracy.


 --- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> 
> > Let me ask Fred to investigate Crores of Ruppes
> deposited fraudulently 
> > by the EDC and the Housing Board in one of Goa's
> most corrupt Banks, the 
> > Centurion Bank.
> > I was defrauded by this bank and another
> individual using forged 
> > signitures while out of India. When I approached
> Parrikar, he asked the Police to 
> > investigate the matter. When the Police arrested
> one Bansilal Shetcar, Manager 
> 
> Okay, Edgar. Now we're coming to the point. Because
> you lost a 
> million rupees in that particular bank, you expect a
> journalist to do an 
> investigator's job?  
> 
> I don't think you have told this forum all the
> details of this transaction 
> you discussed when seeking my earlier help on how to
> get in touch with the 
> banking Ombudsman in Mumbai or Delhi. 
> 
> Who was really responsible for the fraud? Did you
> place undue faith in 
> your chartered accountant, by giving him your
> chequebook? Who actually 
> forged the signature? Was some bank insider
> involved, and did he do it 
> with the knowledge of his higher ups or just of his
> own? Was the bank 
> itself directly responsible as you have loosely
> insinuated -- if so, how? 
> 
> Agreed, the Indian justice and police-detection
> system can be notoriously 
> slow. Why drag in a journalist just because you
> encounter one on a mailing 
> list? 
> 
> You can afford to write loosely via the Net, knowing
> fully well that you 
> could get away with slander or defamation.
> 
> Re "Bernado" Colaco, we can as well forget a faked
> identity, created to 
> rake up a particular point of view. By now, many of
> the old-timers can 
> easily detect who is an 'artificial person', created
> for the special 
> purpose of tail-twisting. You only need to refer to
> the current postings 
> on the various Goa fora to understand who's behind
> pushing the handful of 
> arguments that keep repeating. Sometimes, one needs
> to give others a long 
> rope to hang themselves
> 
> Leaving aside personalities, this debate however
> does throw up some 
> interesting perspectives:
> 
> o We expect the Press -- that too, individual
> journalists -- to fight 
>   our personal battles, and stand up for *our*
> perspectives or 
>   biases even while we live half-way round the
> world, leading our own
>   comfortable lives there.
> 
> o We prefer not to raise questions about how the
> institution of the
>   media works, as such, but target the first visible
> individuals
>   that comes our way, even if they may not be the
> deciding factors 
>   in what gets published and what stays out.
> 
> o Broad, sweeping statements are being made about
> how the press
>   functions in Goa, without even knowing what
> exactly is being
>   published. Yes, there is a lot to criticise the
> press for -- but
>   much of the criticism that comes up in the
> cyberworld is
>   off-target, confused, and tangential to the main
> issues of concern.
>   Needless to say, the Press in various parts of the
> globe, even in
>   Canada and Macau/Macao, has its own various
> restrictions under 
>   which it operates. Do we at all understand the big
> picture?
> 
> o Everyone will tell *you* what *you* should be
> writing on. No one
>   ask questions, of course, about the 'space'
> available
>   in our media for covering crucial issues. Nor is
> it accepted that
>   journalists, whether full-time or freelance, would
> write primarily
>   on subjects  assigned to them or for which could
> find the
>   space in the 'market'. Ever thought of asking why
> the media
>   has shrinking space to discuss corruption, even
> while corruption
>   itself has grown spirally in the 'nineties? Will
> your 
>   scapegoating one or two individuals really help?
> Or do you'll
>   just want to settle some other scores and/or fire
> your guns
>   from someone else's shoulders.
> 
> If you really want the media to improve, or tackle
> issues that matter, 
> then keep quiet and listen. You may not even be
> aware of it, but 
> journalists in Goa too are fairly critical of the
> way things work. If your 
> agenda is something else, including getting back
> your money, that's a 
> different issue 
> 
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Re: [Goanet]Re:(Goanet):"Kettle calling the teapo black!"

2003-08-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
Come on Tony, who feeds the bharati parties Dempo,
Chowgule, Timblo or the Goan common man? 

Dear Goans there is a huge bharati conspiracy of
corruption that we Goans do not know. Pratap sing Rane
come to this list and tell us all.


 --- Tony Correia-Afonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Bernardo Colaco wrote:
> "It would be nice if our free lance scribes
> would
> investigate how Goa fed and feeds the bharati
> parties
> to stay in power ie.: to win elections in other
> states."
> Comment:
> No such investigation is necessary as "bharati
> parties" are fed in the
> same manner as parties in other countries claiming
> to be paragons of
> "democracy" viz. the U.S.A. where corporates like
> Enron and Halliburton
> contribute millions of dollars to the election fund
> of the likes of George
> W. Bush, in exchange for favourable policy decisions
> when electyed to
> office!
> ---Tony Correia-Afonso.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Goanet]Irritating-Citibank-junk mail or pop-up window/screens

2003-08-19 Thread Vincente Fernandes
>
> Can any one help??
>
> Every time I try log to Indian Web sites, first thing i get is the
Citybank pop-up windows, its really a night mare.
>
> How can I stop this?? can any body help??
I have been using Norton Internet Security for some time now, it does comes 
inbuilt with Ad Blocking, antivirus etc.

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Re: [Goanet] Nonsense and more!

2003-08-19 Thread VRANGELRIB
 Off and on, I have been a journalist for most of my life, in India and here in 
the USA; have worked for just about every newspaper worth the name in Mumbai, and for 
the New York Times in New York.  In a career that now spans 56 years, it stands to 
reason that I have come across many journalists whom I learned to respect and admire.
 Fred Noronha is one of them.  He is articulate in the way he writes, generous and 
sharing with his colleagues, brilliant in the reach of his mind.  Too bad that some of 
the time he would normally have devoted to his constructive work has lately been 
pre-empted by individuals who have been sniping at him.  
 Fred will keep growing in stature over the years, and will be remembered long 
after his would-be detractors are forgotten.  I salute you, Fred, as countless others 
do.
 Victor Rangel-Ribeiro


 

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Re: [Goanet]Re: "Bogus" Therapies

2003-08-19 Thread Paddydes
In a message dated 08/18/2003 3:49:46 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< (ii) would you agree that some non-allopathic systems of medicine, even if 
 currently untested by a system of verification located in a tiny part of 
 the globe, could offer cures for certain kinds of ailments? 
 
 Wouldn't you agree that science has it's own politics? That there is no 
 level playing field? Doesn't the list of Nobel prize winners say it all?
  >>.

Fred -- you're quite right. Our parents and grandparents knew much more than 
these so-called professors or scouts from the pharmaceutical industry. All 
they do is get the product patented by using derivatives from neem trees and 
various other herbs or roots which our forebears knew intuitively -- passed down 
through the generations. 

What is perceived as safe and effective could actually be bogus and far more 
dangerous, like the once wonder drug ACTH, and more recently Resulin (sp)? 
commonly prescribed for blood pressure.

Saccharin, which once had the seal of approval and other scientifically 
validated products are constantly being recalled after harmful side effects 
surface. Damage has already been done.

I've heard of some docs with No Bell Prizes -- for whom the bell tolls? 
Politics abounds in politics and in the distribution of prize awards. Mostly 
depends upon who's scratching whose back! The worthy usually go about their business 
of silently rewarding those who merit their consideration strictly on 
humanitarian grounds.

Fred, you have an interesting journo mind and even though your 
professionalism has lately been questioned, you epitomize free lance journalism. It is 
always easy to judge, but we must not readily judge, lest we be judged. Your 
"copy-left" in contrast to rampant 'copyrights' speaks laurels for you.

The difference is that you do not seek personal fame or gain!

Keep up the good work  -- just doing it is your reward.

Pat de Sousa
Maryland, USA





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[Goanet]Birthday on 19-20th Aug 2003

2003-08-19 Thread Vincente Fernandes
Wishing you a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY on behalf of GoaNetters to

19-Aug  Catherine Castelino Mumbai
20-Aug  Celine RodriguesRaia - Goa
Thanks,
Vincente.
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