[Goanet]Is a monster born -- 2003?

2004-12-24 Thread graceful
This scenario is coming threateningly closer as every day
passes. The foll. article was written more than a year back.
 
regards,
Samir
-
2003 : IS A MONSTER BORN - I?

January 30, 2003

The biggest company in India's Private Sector needs to be
congratulated for
their collective genius. Even the Greeks could not entice the Trojans
into
buying (the Greeks just left the horse behind and the Trojans
accepted it as a
parting gift) the horse that converted victory into defeat for Troy.
In the
fiber optic project this group has succeeded in making the people pay
(under the
umbrella of infrastructure development) for the very chains that
could enslave
them. The entire story might make an interesting reading and might
pack much
more punch than any Robert Ludlum thriller. It might be a bible on
HOW TO
COMPROMISE AND SUBJUGATE A NATION? We are certainly not talking about
creating
business monopolies for what the company can now do, if it so
chooses, is
definitely much more than mere business monopolies. We are gaping at
probable
centralisation of raw power that the country had not seen even under
the rule of
Aurangazeb. All of us have seen the slogan in the companies
advertisement that appeared in the Times of India of Saturday,
December 28,
2002 on page number 11 which says "Kar Lo Duniya mutthi mein". Which
duniya and
whose mutthi? One wonders. Is this slogan a clear definition of the
company's
final objective? It is for the people of India to decide and act
upon. Is this a
possible invasion of the fundamental rights of all Indians? There is
a distinct
possibility that the company might have 100 crore plus slaves to rule
without
firing a single shot! If such a thing happens all the Arab slave
masters would
turn in their graves. Then again, under the banner of installation
charges/deposit, people might once more pay for the very same chains
that could
bind them into slavery. And lastly, under the banner of monthly
rental or
charges, people might continue to pay for their probable enslavement
at the
company's hands. Fabulous! Once in place and fully operational (we
are only
imagining the impact on mobile communication today and the full impact
of convergence is yet to unfold) the fiber optic project has the
potential of
monitoring all the communications of the company's patrons, and if
used by the
company accordingly, might place the company in a unique position of
controlling
the lives of its customers. In such an eventuality the company would
be
virtually ruling the country.

Everything that is said on the company's network, it could hear.
Everything that
is written on the company's network, it could read. All the
communication on the
company's network could be stored and retrieved at the company's
directions and
will. All this can happen without the knowledge of the company's
customers.

The company could zero in on anyone and everyone that they choose
(for whatever
reasons and this fact has to be understood on the background of the
current
situation where a judicial order is required to tap a single
telephone line).
This probable scenario makes poor Edgar Hoover look like a nursery
school kid.
The company's poor customers might not even know what hit them (they
might not
even know that something hit them) and they might continue to
attribute missed
opportunities as mere bad luck or stroke of fate. The Convergence
Bill was
passed at a time that suited the efforts of the company. A lot of
apparently
mutually exclusive events have taken place that just happen to work
in favor of
the company. Monthly rental of BSNL/MTNL are climbing. Monthly
charges of cable
operators are also ever changing and cable operators are constantly at
loggerhead with their customers for one reason or another.

Ideal environment for the company to enter into the market as a
savior and a
high quality service provider. Whether this atmosphere was
deliberately created
or it is a sheer coincidence is for every individual to decide. The
company's
offer might become instantly acceptable to customers and might be
lapped up
without much effort and expense on marketing. The company might
certainly have
long queue of prospective customers eager (read as willing to pay any
amount)
for it to bestow its high quality services on to them. Little will
the poor
customer suspect that he is likely to loose his freedom in the
bargain. One does
not know how many people would have already seen the fine thread that
weaves all
these seemingly disjoint events into a noose that can virtually
strangle our
entire nation. The company might destroy a lot of other companies
that are
currently thriving in the field of communication and entertainment.
And then the
reign of absolutism might begin. Unimaginable quantum of
revenue could be generated that might enable the company to literally
buy any
and every other business house in India. A truly diabolic scenario.
By the time
our populace gets wise to these eve

[Goanet]DEATH: Mrs. Serafina Rodrigues (Ponda-Goa)

2004-12-24 Thread lino dourado
DEATH: Mrs. Serafina Rodrigues (Ponda-Goa)

Wife of late Manuel, mother/mother-in-law
Philomena/Luciano, Jasmita/Bushan (Navelim),
Fatima/Domnic (Bombay) Flavia/Antonio (Utorda),
Jacinto/Selwyn.

Sister/sister in-law Antoneta/Martinho (Utorda),
Emeliana/Late Bartolomeu,(Ponda), 
Late Francisco/Helena, Lawrencio/Wenociana,
Sebastiao/Levita (Durbath) and loving aunty of Lino
Dourado, expired on  25th December 2004   

Funeral cortege will leave her residence Shanti Nagar
on Sunday 26th December,2004 at 10.00 am for our Lady
Santa Anne’s Church Ponda for Mass and Burial.




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Re: [Goanet]Re: Seminar, Nov 2004 issue *Amchem Goem*

2004-12-24 Thread halur rasho

--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Philip and all:
> 
> The 9-11 commission report is best used as a
> paper-weight. It is written by mostly white males in
> the USA who understand little about the Middle East.
>  It could have been about the most

The white male comment is gratious left wing racism ,
very annoying and as contemptible as the right wing
variety.
Would the 9-11 commission report be bettter if it had
been written by dark skinned people ? 
Why in the world is the skin colour of the document's
authors relevant while discussing it's contents?
This is as knee jerk, as another poster's reaction to
educated , informative posts because the author was
from a certain indian state whose natives opinions on
Goa were suspect , anyways.



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[Goanet]Revoke Paulo Travel's bus permit (for publications)

2004-12-24 Thread graceful
To 
Rajan Narayan,
Editor
Goan Observer.

This is to relate my experiences of Paulo Travels. I booked a sleeper ticket
to travel from Paulo Travels bus on the 12 th of this month from Bangalore to 
Margao.
The ticket was booked well in advance by paying Rs. 750/-. On arrival at the
appointed time at the bus, I found that my ticket number 26 A was also allocated
to someone else. Besides, the sleeper number 26 was divided into two sleepers
26A and 26 B. It was not just impossible to climb into the sleeper but I cannot
fathom how two people can share the same sleeper, unless they are a husband
wife couple or gays/lesbians. Who gave Paulo Travels permit for such an 
arrangement?

The bus was of course full and all people mostly tourists put up with the
arrangement. Paulo Travels bus seems only good for pigs to travel in, not
human beings.

I demand that Paulo Travel's licence be immediately revoked. This is also
to let fore-warn Goans
what happens if you book your ticket by this Paulo Travels.

regards,
Samir Kelekar
Bangalore





[Goanet]Aiz anink ek pautt - ek kovita

2004-12-24 Thread ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO

Wishing all Goanetters a Merry Christmas and a Very Happy and Prosperous
New Year 2005.



AIZ ANINK EK PAUTT

Aiz anink ek pautt
Ballok Jezu zolom gheta
Gorvam ghottean 
Monzatim modem
Khauddin reuddun
Ghorib poristhitin 
Amkam dista
Anink ami svarti munis
Unchi kimti kopdde 
Ghalun angar
Golleant, hatant
Chokchokit bhangar
Ballkachea umeank
Lainnik rauta
Kednaim ami chintlam oi
Patxeancho patxea ho
Oso kirkoll kiteak itlo
Amkam patkantlim suddounk
Gorvam ghotteant zolom ghetlo
Soddvonddar amcho to
Oso aplo jiu sang konn ditlo?
Kitlo mogal Jezu mozo
Priticho sagor soglo
Kont ixeop gheunk tuzo
Somi mozo, portun etlo
Somi mozo, portun etlo

Regards,

Cypriano Fernandes (Riyadh, KSA)


 




[Goanet]25 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2004-12-24 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
December 25, 2004

   A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS
   KHUXALBHORIT NATALAM
   To all the Goanetters
   on behalf of Goacom and GoaNow

CELEBRATIONS FOR THE NATIVITY BEGIN: Christmas descended on Goa today as all
over the world with the pealing of bells and church-choirs singing the song
of angles, "Glory to God on high, and peace to man on earth" during the
celebration of the midnight mass in all parishes of the State. At the Panaji
church of Our Lady of Immaculate Conception, the midnight mass was
celebrated outdoors on the landmark steps of the church. The parish priest,
Fr Antimo Gomes, concelebrated the Mass with other priests. Prior to the
Mass, an enactment of the birth of Christ was also held on the steps. (NT)

TOLLING OF BELLS USHER IN CHRISTMAS: Midnight masses, pealing of church
bells and fireworks coupled with messages of love, joy and peace ushered in
Christmas celebrations in the state of Goa. Most Catholics attended solemn
church services on Friday night which included night vigils and carol
singing. While the main churches in all the four cities held indoor midnight
services, a special mass was celebrated by the Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao
at Old Goa and was attended in large numbers by locals and pilgrims who have
descended at this world heritage site for the Exposition of St Francis
Xavier. (H)

GOVERNOR, CHIEF MINISTER, ARCHBISHOP EXTEND GREETINGS: Governor SC Jamir,
Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and Archbishop-Patriarch of Goa and Daman,
Filipe Neri Ferrao, have wished the people of Goa on the occasion of
Christmas - a feast of joy celebrated in various forms, ranging from the
deeply spiritual to the purely secular. (NT)

RAVE PARTY KICKS OFF AT ANJUNA: Its about 2.10 pm and the party is kicking
at a well-known party zone in Anjuna. Loud music is playing, but who
cares.Rave parties are no new feature to Anjuna residents and the drug
tourists who visit the State for drugs and 'Goa trance' music. (Sukumar
Shastri in Herald)

OPPN SEEKS JAMIR'S INTERVENTION: The State president of the Nationalist
Congress Party, Dr Wilfred de Souza, met the governor, Mr SC Jamir, on
December 24, and requested him to order the State government to withdraw its
recently-released CD on documentary film entitled "Goa Freedom Struggle".
Describing the CD as "putrid nonsense" and urging the government to hang its
head in shame, Dr de Souza said, "I don't know how the government saw it fit
to show this CD to the school children. What are you trying to develop? The
culture of love or the culture of hatred?" (NT)

'NOTHING WRONG': Reacting to the CD "Goa KA Swadhinta Sangram", the VHP's
Vibhag Mantri Manohar Korgaonkar, said, "It might not have been possible to
cover the entire gamut of the Goan freedom struggle in the given time limit
of the film. But there is nothing wrong in a historical presentation of
facts in the light of the conversions undertaken by the missionaries". He
was not forthcoming on the possible effects of the violent scenes in the
film. "As I have not viewed it, I am unable to comment on the same," he
remarked. (GT)

'DEPICTS HISTORICAL FACTS': The well-known freedom fighter and former state
police chief, Mr Prabhakar Sinari, said that the documentary film on Goa
freedom struggle depicts historical facts - bitter or otherwise - in an
authentic manner, however, they may not have been presented in a manner
acceptable to general public. (NT)

SS BLAMES CONG: The Shiv Sena has blamed the Congress party for creating
what it termed as an unnecessary ruckus over the VCD of the film on Goa's
liberation struggle. (GT)

GPCC BURNS CD: The Goa Pradesh Congress Committee executive on December 24
burnt, literally, a copy of the VCD of the controversial film on Goa's
freedom struggle to protest against its production by the Education
department and has demanded that the government withdraw it. (H)

"INTENTIONALLY PROVOCATIVE AND BIASED": "A documentary on Goa's Liberation
struggle is certainly a praiseworthy initiative and honour to the Goans, but
the one in question by the State government, is intentionally provocative
and biased production, and unfortunately, has turned out to be very
insensitive and regrettable," said Delio Mendonca, Director, Xavier Centre
of Historical Research. According to him, the main point of disagreement
with the VCD is that the film makes a mockery of symbols of Christianity by
focusing intensively and extensively on symbols like the churches, cross and
holy images (that too out of context) and associating them with the
Portuguese colonial power. (Preetu Nair in GT)

'RETURN THE TAMRA PATRA': The tamra patra that they have fraudulently
obtained to benefit from the pension and reservation schemes should be
returned to the Government. These so called 'freedom fighters' may one day
want us to believe that 'Admiral' Thimmaya (a Camotim?), defected from the
Bijapur Kingdom, worked with the Vijaynagar Kingdom and Vasco-da-Gama (1502
to 1508) and then led Afonso 

[Goanet]Cheapie Brits, complaints about overcharging in Bangalore etc.

2004-12-24 Thread graceful
Hi:
I have been following the arguments about a hotel in Bangalore overcharging
Gabriel and co. 

I am afraid even if a complaint is filed, unless it is diligently followed up
for months and may be years, not much will come out of it. The costs and time
involved in doing so itself makes it unviable. 

Ideally, Gabriel shouldn't have paid, but even there he has to stick his
ground, be forceful talking to
the management, not pay more and get out of the restaurant.

Cheating abounds all over India and really in terms of consequences it is a 
minor problem compared to communalism and other issues as long as the amount
is not much.

Today in India, Reliance is buying up the whole govt., breaking laws left
right and center, and there is no soul in India who is willing to do anything
about it.

regards,
Samir Kelekar
Bangalore






[Goanet]An Attempt to Cool the Repeatedly Reheated Chickenhawk Xacuti

2004-12-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>a) Why don't you know about all the 17 UN
>resolutions from 1991 to 2003, and what they were all
>about? What were the economic sanctions imposed on
>Iraq all about? How come you can claim that President
>Bush misled everyone, when he only became President
>in 2001, ten years after the first UN resolution
>demanding from Saddam an accounting of his WMDs?
>

The answers to the above questions and their
refutations can be found in the following articles
(There are plenty more where they came from):

Unproven: The Controversy over Justifying War in Iraq
By David Cortright, Alistair Millar, George A. Lopez,
Linda M. Gerber
http://www.fourthfreedom.org/Applications/cms.php?page_id=28

UN Resolutions and the U.S. War on Iraq
by Dayne Goodwin
http://www.laborstandard.org/Iraq/Dayne_on_UN.htm

> 
> b) Are you against freedom and democracy for the
> Iraqis?  If you are not, then why your relentless
> campaign to establish "facts" that are no longer
> relevent? 
> 

That the illegal Iraq war was not about freedom and
democracy is explained in the following articles
(There are plenty more where they came from):

Revealed: How the Road to War was Paved with Lies
By Raymond Whitaker
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/2003/0427lies.htm

Myths And Facts About the War
By Rahul Mahajan and Robert Jensen
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/2003/0320mythfacts.htm

Cheers,

Santosh



[Goanet]Re: Seminar, Nov 2004 issue *Amchem Goem*

2004-12-24 Thread George Pinto
Philip and all:

The 9-11 commission report is best used as a paper-weight. It is written by 
mostly white males in
the USA who understand little about the Middle East.  It could have been about 
the most
significant problem confronting peace in the Middle East and reducing a 
significant source of
terrorism (the Israel-Palestine problem). Instead, the more popular explanation 
- Islamic
terrorism is used for a Christian audience.  Islamic terrorism is code (or 
politically correct in
certain circles) for being anti-Muslim.  No mention of any Israeli terrorism is 
made: neither the
terrorism that radical Israeli settlers practice or the state-sponsored Israeli 
genocide on
innocent Palestinians.

Imagine a report written by white European cardinals in the Vatican on Islam in 
the Middle East.
What credibility would it have if there was no experience of the real truth?  
The report would
serve as toilet paper - if it was soft enough.

Regards,
George 


--- Philip Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have recently obtained copies of the following books:
> 
> 1. The 9/11 Commission Report : The Final Report of the National Commission
> on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States. (567 pages)

> if any goanetters are interested  pls post your msg and I will try to
> respond earliest. Looking forward to an exchange of stimulating ideas with
> goanetters -- on goanet.




Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks

2004-12-24 Thread Frederick Noronha(FN)
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Eddie Fernandes wrote:
No one has questioned the claim by India's Union Tourism Minister that 
British visit Goa with their chefs, cooks and butlers and enjoy a cheap 
holiday.  In the UK, it is only the multi-millionaires who can afford 
to employ chefs and butlers and the amount they spend in renting a 
villa outstrips the expenditure by any other class of tourist.

The main provider of rental holiday accommodation has a website at 
http://www.lazydays.co.uk/ Check their rates.  A villa in Nerul, for 
example, has a peak season rent of Rs 3 lakhs per week ( air fares are 
excluded)

On the other hand, many middle class Indian tourists visit Goa with 
their cooks/maids/ayahs.
Hi Eddie:
A politician's hyperbole does not negate the existance of an issue, which 
has been debated often on Goanet (and which expats tend to view 
defensively, IMHO).

Re the Rs 300,000 per week villa at Nerul at peak season, I wonder who's 
making the money. Let me know if home-owners (specially those expats who 
got pushed into going in for rent-backs) make anything of a fraction of 
this money.

Also, the actual impact of tourism -- millionaires, butlers, chefs, cooks 
or whoever -- on the local real estate reality has not been adequately 
looked at. I know quite a large section of people who have put in a 
life of hard work and who would probably never be able to afford a decent 
home in Goa, thanks to the real estate boom which in significant part is 
tourism-generated.

Are expat Goans willing to call a spade a spade, or just build arguments 
to be defensive over a situation which is to their advantage? Sorry for 
this bluntspeak. No offence meant. FN



[Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!

2004-12-24 Thread Mario Goveia
TO: Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mario Goveia wrote (to Ronald):

> People know WMDs were not found after the regime 
> change.  The question is, what happened to the WMDs
> not accounted for.  Mr. Albuquerque steadfastly 
> dodges this question.

Before Ronald can reply, his buddy, Tariq, jumps in:

Don't you find it a tad bit hypocritical of accusing
Ronald of dodging this question?

Did you ever think that this question should be
answered by those who led this country into a war?

But of course, this question will never be asked or
answered because all the chickenhawks know there are
no WMDs.

Instead, this argument is changed to one of democracy
and freedom and those who called out the liars for
what they were, are asked to answer for the 
"missing" WMDs and accused of subverting democracy.

Mario replies:

Tariq, not to belabor the point, but even if you are
right about everything (which you are not), and
everyone else except you and Ronald and a couple of
your cabal are liars, IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!

The Iraqis are going to get their freedom and
democracy no matter what you guys want to believe! 
Don't you get it?  The era of Sunni Baathist brutality
and domination in Iraq is OVER!

However, since you asked the question, my answer is,
No! I don't find asking Ronald anything I want to is
hypocritical.  If asking him why he won't answer a
question is "accusing" him of not answering a
question, then I am guilty of accusing him of not
answering the question.

You may enjoy insulting US leaders by calling them
"chicken-hawks", but the fact is that the REAL
warriors who are risking their lives on behalf of the
Iraqis, as opposed to the "chicken-little" armchair
critics like yourselves, voted overwhelmingly for the
re-election of the "chicken-hawks" to lead them.

The people who decided to go to war made their
decision based on the fact that Saddam was refusing to
account for the WMDs as required under UN resolution
1441 and the 16 others prior to that.  Since they did
not find the stockpiles that they expected in the
obvious locations, it is still an open question as to
whether they are still buried in the Iraqi desert or
moved to Syria.  The WMDs have never been accounted
for, so for Ronald and you to claim that "there are no
WMDs" is to state the obvious as to what has not been
found, but does not answer the question of what
happened to the WMDs that everyone knows he had.  What
don't you understand about this question?

Wait a minute!  Something just occurred to me.  Do you
two believe that Iraq NEVER had WMDs?  Do you believe
that Iraq never used WMDs against Iran, the Kurds at
Halabja, and the Shia in the delta?  Do you believe
that Saddam did not acknowledge having WMDs in the
1991 ceasefire agreement and agreed to destroy what he
had and provide the UN with an accounting?  Do you
believe there were no UN resolutions (there were 17)
demanding that Saddam comply with the 1991 ceasefire
agreement and account for his WMDs?  Why do you two
believe the UN imposed crippling economic sanctions on
Iraq from 1991 on?  Do you two actually believe that
Saddam lost his dictatorship when he could have saved
himself by disclosing to the world, WHAT YOU TWO KNOW
FOR SURE, that he had no WMDs?

If you two believe all this, I have a bridge in NY I
have for sale that your gang can be partners in.






Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roast!

2004-12-24 Thread Mario Goveia
TO: Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The politist description of news published in the 
Globe & Mail is bovine excrement.  I am sorry that
that seems to be your only source of information.

Mario wrote:
> The US unemployment rate is 5.4%, whereas it is
> almost 7.5% in Canada and 10% in the major European
countries (France, Germany, Spain & Italy), so put
away that feni bottle, Mervyn.

Mervyn responds: 
Where did you get there numbers from? A bar in Toledo?

Mario replies:
Why don't you put down the feni bottle and the Globe &
Mail, do some research on the internet, and find out
for yourself?


Mario wrote:
> Taxes by themselves have nothing to do with jobs
> being outsourced, which is 
> shown by the fact that the US has gained far more
> jobs from "insourcing" by foreign companies than 
> they have lost to outsourcing.

Mervyn responds:
When you give a multi-national a tax break for sending
jobs abroad, guess what they are going to do? 

I also hope that the "insourcing" jobs that you refer
to, are not the type that all the training required 
is to say, "Would you like fries with that?"

Mario replies:
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
 Regardless of what you read in the Globe & Mail,
there are no special tax breaks in the US for sending
jobs abroad, but there are no restrictions against
sending jobs abroad.

Since you seem to be unaware of all the foreign
companies that are placing their offices and plants in
the US, I will give you a couple: Toyota and Honda are
two that even you may recognize.  The US has gained
far more jobs from foreign companies in the US than
the jobs that have been outsourced, many to India.


 




[Goanet]Christams & New Year wishes

2004-12-24 Thread Rodrigues Roy
I receive and read most of the articles posted in goanet. Thanks for taking 
the trouble and do carry on your good work.

I wish you and your family and all at Goanet a Joyful Christmas and a 
Prosperous New Year..

Roy Rodrigues
(USA)
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Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks

2004-12-24 Thread cornel
Fred,
The posts, including yours, seem to be going round in circles. The issue 
surely is that there are no objections to a surcharge if this is made 
explicit, even in small print, and drawn to one's attention, in whatever way
possible, before one orders a meal in a restaurant to allow the tourist to 
decide to eat in one place or another. This did not seem to
have  happened in the case of Gabriel and he surely made this point, ever so 
clearly, not to require  this circuitous series of posts.

If an Indian tourist had a surcharge demanded from him, at a restaurant, 
without due prior notice/attention, in the UK, not only would it be illegal 
but  the establishment would risk censure in the media and even boycott if
this came to light.   This is regardless of the fact that the same Indian 
injured crossing the road would receive free emergency medical services and 
of a quality equal to that for any permanent resident in the country. The
point I am making is that the waters do not need to be muddied with 
irrelevant and extraneous arguments as has happened on this issue. Most 
certainly,  every Western tourist knows he/she is getting agood deal
in India because of the current exchange rate. Most would feel comfortable 
to pay extra, if necessary, as long as they do not feel  ripped off.

To reiterate, I don't think there is much objection to the principle of a 
surcharge to tourists but it is a question of how it is yanked out of them. 
All that is asked for, and very reasonably so, is that they get to know
about any surcharge prior to the consumption of a service and not held to 
ransom by a hidden and undisclosed charge after the meal or whatever. This 
should be true in India or anywhere else, irrespective, of a country's stage 
of economic development. Minimally, it is an intelligent way of buying 
goodwill for better tips and increased tourism.

Instead of going round in circles on Goanet, I think all of us would be 
better served if the simple points made above were drawn to the attention of 
the Indian Tourist Board. The global competition for tourists is intense and 
India cannot afford to be out on a limb.
Cornel





Re: [Goanet]CHRISTMAS JOYS

2004-12-24 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Superbly written Arlette!  Do you have an Editor?  If so, do you pay 
him/her?

Eddie
PS. Have you published this elsewhere?  I could almost swear that I have 
come across it before.


- Original Message - 
From: "ARLETTE AZAVEDO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 5:10 PM
Subject: [Goanet]CHRISTMAS JOYS


CHRISTMAS JOYS
Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, who is the saviour of the
humanity. Christmas has always been one of my favorite times of the year 
as
also for everyone through out the world. The magical events of Christmas 
are
believed to hold every heart of ours with joy and freshness. These magical
events have been re-created in the many traditions followed during
Christmas. The Christmas tree, the star, and Santa Claus are some 
traditions
that all combine to form the spirit of Christmas. Christmas is for joy, 
for
giving and sharing, for laughter, for reuniting with family and friends, 
but
mostly, Christmas is for love.

MS.  ARLETTE  AZAVEDO.
MAPUCA.


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Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks

2004-12-24 Thread halur rasho

> 
> On the other hand, many middle class Indian tourists
> visit Goa with their 
> cooks/maids/ayahs.
> 
I do not know whether the British travel with a
retinue to Goa , nor do I care. But you are utterly
out of touch with middle class india, if you think
they can travel with a retinue of help for holidays.

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[Goanet]Jazz Night (January 2005) at Starters & More

2004-12-24 Thread Nandita Mital
Dear Jazz Lovers,

Hi! To start off the New Year on a jazzy note - I'm mailing you regarding
the first Jazz Night of 2005 with the "Jazz Junction" at Starters & More,
and it's onWednesday, 5th January 2005.

For the first of many Jazz Nights in 2005, the line-up will feature :

Yvonne Gonsalves - Vocals

Daughter of India's most renowned big band leader 'Chic Chocolate'. Yvonne
recently represented India at the Jazz Yatra. She has performed extensively
with her husband ace saxophonist Braz Gonsalves.

Maarten Gamwijcan - Saxophone

Maarten is a self taught saxophonist from Holland. He is in India to enhance
his jazz vocabulary through collaborations with Indian classical musicians.

Lenny Heredia - Keyboards

Lenny is one of the few keyboard players in the country who has a very
modern approach to soloing. He is currently based in Australia where he
performs with most of the jazz bands in Perth.

Colin D'Cruz - Bass

Colin leads 'Jazz Junction' and has performed with every jazz musician in
India. He recently performed to rave reviews with a 14-piece fusion ensemble
at the Kala Academy in Goa for the IFFI.

Lester Godinho - Drums

The most accomplished, experienced and versatile drummer in the country
today. Lester is the son of India's legendary jazz drummer Leslie Godinho.
He has carved a niche for himself in the jazz idiom with local as well as
international artistes.

Some of you were with us and unfortunately some were unable to make it to
the last Jazz Night in 2004, organised by me on Wednesday 1st December, and
so.I hope that this time as a good start to 2005, you will definately
come with your friends from 9.00 pm onwards..

Once again, there's no entrance/cover charge..you just pay for what you
order! To reserve a table for the evening - please give me a call at the
earliest on 98201-70074.

Waiting to hear from you and looking forward to having you with us in the
New Year.

Sincerely, 
Nandita



[Goanet]KHUXEALBORIT NATALANCHI POROB!

2004-12-24 Thread domnic fernandes
Khuimcheanuch ek voros kabar zalem ani anik ek Natalanchi porob ievun amchea 
fuddean ubi ravli.  Aiz ami ugddass kortanv sabar vorsam adim ghoddlele eke 
ghoddnencho - Ballok Jezuchea ieannancho.  Hoi, koddkoddeanchem inv 
poddlelem Belea xaran.  Osle eke invache rati Jose ani Maria zoddpotalint 
ani sodtalint ek suat zolm divunk aplea putak.  Khuimchoruch tankam zago 
mevonam zavn, xekim tannem eka gorvanchea gottean rig getli ani thuimsor 
sonvsaracho sorvonddar zolmolo.  Povitr Purannan Devan amkam bassailelem eka 
dissak oxem ghoddon ietelem ki ballok kalloki sonvsarak uzvadd haddtolo - 
tem Devachem utor tea dissak purem zalem.

Tech invanche modiean rati, mendre raknne aplea xelliank choloitalet.  
Okosmat tannem pois thavn ek suadik avaz aikolo and teach barabor soglench 
ontroll uzvaddan bhorlem ani Devdut tachea fuddean ube ravon oxem gaitat tem 
tannem aikolem:  “Moima Devak unch sorgim ani xanti borea munxeank 
sonvsari.”

Tech modiean rati, udenti vatten teg vidvan aplea unttancher boson vetannam 
tannim avchit ontrollar ek kherit noketr pollelem jem ghoddien thambo ani 
ghoddien cholon voitalem.  Tea noketrak pollovn he teg vidvan thottakle ani 
takach pollovnk urlet - tem noketr tankam kitem tori sangonk sodtalem.

Te mendre raknne Devdutanim sanglelea pormonnem ap-apleo bhetto ghevun Belea 
xaran vochonk laglet.  Dusre vatten tem noketr, zacho te teg vidvan pattlav 
kortalet, ievun justuch Belea xaran eka gorvanchea gottea voir thamblem.  
Tor tea gottean tannem kitem pollelem zait?  Gorvanche khauddechi khatt 
korun nidlolo, potranim guttlailolo, Dev Putr amurkoch hanstalo ani taka 
sangat divunk sorbonvtim zonvaram aslint ani tosoch tacho posko bapui Jose 
ani avoi Maria.

Aiz sogott ami Jezuchea zolmancho dis monoitanv.  Devan aplea ekleach putak, 
Jezu Kristak, munxeakullachi soddvonn korunk hea sonvsarant pattoilo.  Hoi, 
to raza razancho ani asro patkeancho eka gorvanchea gottean zolmolo 
nastannam ek punn angostr tache kuddir, torui tachea tonddar hanso 
khelltalo.  Razanchea razan amchea passot khaltikai bhogli ani tech 
khaltikaien ami jieonk ani tacho pattlav korunk To amchea laguim vinoti 
korta.  Tor cholat bhava-bhoinnanim aichea dissa sogott ami umedin bhoron 
ballka Jezuk nomoskar korum-iea ani tache porim nitoll ani nirmoll zavunk 
bhasavnni diun hea sokoilem gaionn gavum-iea:

Ontroll pettlam noketranim
Uzvadd atvech torecho
Boddve gaitat gaionnam
Sorv thavn sorgincho
Sondes dita sogott munxeak
Sondes khuxealkaiecho
Moronn nhoi amcho xevott
Punn oromb sasnnanchea jivitacho
Glo-oh-oh-oh-oh, Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-ria
In excelcis Deo
Glo-oh-oh-oh-oh, Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-ria
In excelcis Deo
Anvddetam sogott Kristi kuttombak khuxealborit Natalanchi porob!
Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA
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[Goanet]GoanetReader -- From Verna to glaciers and penguins...

2004-12-24 Thread GoanetReader
FROM VERNA TO GLACIERS AND PENGUINS, A LONG ROAD FOR HELGA GOMES

Was she really the first Goan woman to reach Antarctica? Goans love to
debate -- sometimes, seemingly endlessly -- and this became the topic for an
online discussion. Whatever the case, we take pride in the fact that an
active Goanetter is reaching the icy continent.

On December 25, 2004, when Goa and the many tourists that crowd here at this
time of the year keep busy celebrating Christmas, Maria Fatima Helga do
Rosario Gomes is a long, long way from home. She crosses the Antarctic
Circle. 

In an email interview done from board the ship, she told GOANET's Frederick
Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: "I think there is going to be a bit of
hazing. We sited our first iceberg; it was huge and had really sharp edges."

And while getting closer to the icy shores, the lady who deftly sailed
through many a choppy cyber-debate earlier remembered and requested Goanet's
news updates on her on-board address! If you would like to send in a short
message to her, send it in via Goanet  and we'll make
sure it gets passed on.

She added: "We are heading south to the Ross Sea at break-neck speed to
sample into the big phytoplankton blooms that we see on the satellite
images. In the meantime, a huge iceberg has made things difficult for the US
Coast Guard vessels that are cutting a channel to allow fuel and supply
vessels to get to McMurdo, the US permanent base. As usual all our well
oiled plans can turn to chaos if weather gets unpredictable but we are
optimistic we can do everything we planned."

We took the opportunity of pinning down Helga, as most Goanetters know her,
to raise questions about education in Goa, what she sees as the State's
missed potential, and how our children can think of opening their eyes to
wider horizons. Extracts from the interview: 

*
Do tell us about your trajectory from the Goa-based National Institute of
Oceanography (NIO) to now. Also, about your education in Goa...
*

I studied at the Marina English High School in Verna, and after the
customary (for that time!) BSc in Chemistry, I went on to do my Masters in
Microbiology at the now defunct Post Graduate Center which was affiliated to
the Bombay University.

I enjoyed the curriculum and the teachers and especially my project, which
was working on mangroves of the Mandovi estuary. It got me interested in
pursuing a career in research. Then, I joined the NIO as a CSIR (Center of
Scientific and Industrial Research) fellow and began a new career in
Oceanography. 

Subsequently, I got a Ph.D and then went on to do Post Doctoral work in the
field of ocean color and satellite remote sensing. I left Goa in 1992 to
join my husband in Japan, where he was pursuing his Ph D at the Nagoya
University. 

After seven years of working at the University and enjoying Japanese
culture, we moved to the Bigelow Laboratory of Ocean Sciences in Maine, USA.

It seemed like we have come a full circle because while at the NIO, we had
read and followed the work of Bigelow scientists. Dr. Charlie Yentsch, the
founder of Bigelow Laboratory hooked a camera onto the Soyuz and got one of
the first ocean color pictures -- a topic that has interested me since my
Post Doc days at the NIO.

*
What's your current assignment about? 
*

Our research expedition is sponsored by the National Science Foundation of
the United States, and our mission forms part of a larger effort by the USA
and several other countries to understand the long-term consequences of the
sun's harmful UV radiation for life on our planet. 

In human beings, it is well known that prolonged exposure to solar UV
radiation can cause skin cancer, but its consequences for animal and plant
life on land and in the sea are not well understood. 

During this cruise to the Antarctic Ocean, the focus of my research will be
on photo-synthetic processes in phytoplankton. Phytoplankton are the base of
the Antarctic marine food chain which extends from phytoplankton to krill
and whales.

By virtue of their ability to photosynthesize, phytoplankton are also
responsible for removing a large fraction of the excess carbon dioxide that
is increasing in the earth's atmosphere.  

The final questions we hope to answer are: How does UV light effect the food
chain? How will the increase in UV affect the ability of the oceans to
absorb atmospheric carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas responsible for global
warming?

*
Were you excited about it?
*

I am very excited about going to the Antarctica because it is majestic,
grand and yet has an element of dan

Re: [Goanet]Authors, editors, manuscripts, and fees

2004-12-24 Thread cornel
Gabe,
Two brief comments re your posts. Was Sunday mass attendance not made
obligatory under the risk of mortal sin so as to ensure that money could be 
obtained  via the collection tray, and was not the concept of 'buying' 
indulgences  for now or the after life a means of sustaining Church coffers?
Just a thought as to why you may not specifically have paid your priest, up
front, for your last Sunday mass service! Different businesses have 
diferrent   ways of raising money surely.

On another point re the often made comment on India and China becoming 
economic superpowers   in the near future, I feel that India has much to 
learn from China  regarding the production of quality goods. Years ago, I 
used to get  really  upset when non Indians, said that India produced shoddy 
goods. I am afraid  I think they were right in many cases. My experience 
over the years has been that Indian made merchandise falls apart fairly soon 
after purchase. This may be because the idea of a repair man, round the 
corner, still exists and despite labour costs being similar in both 
countries. However, when goods are made in China for export, they are made 
to last trouble-free for a while. China is today  the workshop of the world 
because of its attention to quality from the humble calculator to the 
sophisticated camera, electrical  equipment, and the upper range Mercedes 
Benz saloon. In contrast, an expensive clock made in  India will need 
repairs within a year in my experience and be best thrown out.  As an 
Indian,  it really pains me to say this but I wish this was not so.
Cornel




Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks

2004-12-24 Thread Eddie Fernandes
No one has questioned the claim by India's Union Tourism Minister that 
British visit Goa with their chefs, cooks and butlers and enjoy a cheap 
holiday.  In the UK, it is only the multi-millionaires who can afford to 
employ chefs and butlers and the amount they spend in renting a villa 
outstrips the expenditure by any other class of tourist.

The main provider of rental holiday accommodation has a website at 
http://www.lazydays.co.uk/ Check their rates.  A villa in Nerul, for 
example, has a peak season rent of Rs 3 lakhs per week ( air fares are 
excluded)

On the other hand, many middle class Indian tourists visit Goa with their 
cooks/maids/ayahs.

 Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Noronha(FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In the case of India, this comes in the shape of an economic surcharge. 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this happens in only a very limited 
number of hotels, while the rail and air foreigner-rates don't add up for 
much.
Headline: Bangloreans head to the  beaches
Source: 24 Dec 2004:  Deccan Herald.

Excerpts: People under 30 opt for Goa because of the wilder nature of 
celebrating ...


"Only 25-30 per cent of the number of rooms available in Goa are kept for 
the Indian tourists, as International tourists pay much in advance," says Ms 
Ranjini, travel consultant.


Full text at: http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec242004/i5.asp

Eddie Fernandes


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[Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!

2004-12-24 Thread Mario Goveia
TO:: Ronald Albuquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Ronald writes:
Upon reading this post, I decided to re-read the news
article previously referenced.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/10/22/divide_seen_in


Mario replies:
Ronald, You are still hiding behind polls of voters
and opinions of journalists, who only know as much as
you do.  Why don't you look at the facts yourself and
use logic thereafter?

a) Why don't you know about all the 17 UN resolutions
from 1991 to 2003, and what they were all about?  What
were the economic sanctions imposed on Iraq all about?
 How come you can claim that President Bush misled
everyone, when he only became President in 2001, ten
years after the first UN resolution demanding from
Saddam an accounting of his WMDs?  If you used your
logic honestly and consistently you should be saying
that the entire UN was misleading the world since 1991
that Saddam had WMDs.

b) Are you against freedom and democracy for the
Iraqis?  If you are not, then why your relentless
campaign to establish "facts" that are no longer
relevent? 

c) Are you suggesting that Iraq be turned back to the
Baathists, who come from less than 20% of the
population, and were brutalizing the 80% that comprise
the Shia and Kurds?








[Goanet]Britto's, Mary's, Xavier's alumni network

2004-12-24 Thread bmx
Dear BMXers,

Many of us have still not got over the great time we all had at our Reunion
celebrations. Memories that are sure to last forever !!!

Your committee has been working silently during the last few months. 

DVD's:-

We once again apologize for the delay and thank you for your patience. We
had not envisaged how tedious a task it was. Craig has been working very
hard and we anticipate to have the DVD's mailed out by the end of Jan '05.
For those who have not yet ordered a copy, please do so as soon as possible
through our web site.

SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM:-

We intend to announce the complete details of the program during the Month
of February. Due to your overwhelming response to our sponsorship drive, we
probably are going to be able to have a much more generous and elaborate
program. Meanwhile we have decided not to close the fund drive. Anyone who
still wants to send in Donations are welcome to do so.

BMX 2005 PICNIC:-

Please mark 24th July 2005 on your Calendar. It is the same weekend as Viva
Goa (July 23rd). Further details will be announce in the new year.

NEWSLETTERS:-

We plan to issue a monthly newsletter in the New Year. With your continued
support,we hope to forge ahead with other ideas in the future.

XMAS MESSAGE:-

Wishing you a holiday filled with the warmth of caring, the joy of
togetherness, the love of family and friends and happy memories that linger
long after the season is gone.

May Christmas inspire each of us to give a little we have, to share a little
of who we are and to help make this the kind of world that it was meant to
be.  Wishing you and your family a New Year filled with warm friendships,
good health, happy family times, and wonderful memories.

Because of membership spans the entire globe, our BMXers in Asia and
Australia are already celebrating Christmas!!! This shows the extent and
strength of our alumni

God Bless you all.

Long Live BMX !!!

Joe Nunes
PRESIDENT
BMX COMMITTEE












[Goanet]CHRISTMAS JOYS

2004-12-24 Thread ARLETTE AZAVEDO
CHRISTMAS JOYS

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, who is the saviour of the
humanity. Christmas has always been one of my favorite times of the year as
also for everyone through out the world. The magical events of Christmas are
believed to hold every heart of ours with joy and freshness. These magical
events have been re-created in the many traditions followed during
Christmas. The Christmas tree, the star, and Santa Claus are some traditions
that all combine to form the spirit of Christmas. Christmas is for joy, for
giving and sharing, for laughter, for reuniting with family and friends, but
mostly, Christmas is for love.

However, no matter which part of the world you are in, the tradition of
Christmas blossoms with fun and celebration and carries along with it faith,
hope and love. It is a combination, which gives a touch of liveliness and
harmony to the season of celebrations. The Christmas spirit is all about
caring and sharing with your loved ones. Moreover, what best way to express
these feelings than gifts? Christmas, in many ways is the season to give
gifts to the loved ones.

For us, Christmas in a unique experience, as we lay out a variety of
Christmas sweets and culinary delights. In certain places specially in the
villages, ladies in the neighborhood get together as they draw up a schedule
so that they can reach out and help one another in preparing sweets. This is
all done in the true spirit of love, goodwill and friendship.

Christmas is surely incomplete without Santa. His roaring laughter and gifts
that he brings along are an integral part of Christmas, more so for
children. They keep peeping out through the windows waiting for Santa's
arrival. Santa is believed to have come riding through the snow on the
carriage pulled by reindeers, led by his favorite Rudolph-- the red-nosed
reindeer.  Children just loved the Santa and eagerly wait for his arrival.
Children believe that Santa Claus gets gifts for them. As a result many of
them leave stockings so that Santa can put their gifts in it, some little
ones hang sack of pillows instead of stockings. Others even decorate their
Christmas list and put it on the windowsill along with a little bit of sugar
so that Father Christmas won't miss them  I clearly remember when I
tried to tell my son about Santa Clause, he looked amazed and asked me how
can the Santa visits all the homes in the world on Christmas eve, especially
when he comes down the chimney, which is not the quickest way to enter a
home and he also wanted to know what happens to the homes which have no
chimney, infact, he was thinking of our home.  I was so amazed at the
logical question from my child that I just walked away, muttering under my
breath!!

Midnight mass and day services are held in the Churches during the eve and
the day of Christmas. The message and sermons of love and redemption are
given out. Large numbers of people gather to pray and thank god for His
sacrifices that have saved humanity. May the birth of Baby Jesus bring in
lots of peace and love to our selves and to the entire world.

MS.  ARLETTE  AZAVEDO.
MAPUCA.



Re: [Goanet]Bail mure sarki !!!

2004-12-24 Thread Frederick Noronha(FN)
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Anthony Barretto wrote:
Hi Albertina
What Minguel says is better said in Konkani "Samki
bail mure!" It simply means the man lacks courage of
conviction.
And what it means certainly does not belittle women I
suppose. It's just a traditional phrase. Of course
that is not denying that many women are indeed
courageous.
Irony of ironies. The film which my good friend Miguel is (rightly) 
voicing concern over and Miguel himself are both using the same idiom, on 
this one aspect.

In one of the scene of the by-now famous education department film 
(everyone should try and see it, to see what happens when a government 
thinks along communal lines!), a lady hands over bangles to one official.

If this is not male chauvinism, I don't know what is.
You don't need to be a 'man' to be brave. All men are not brave. Some 
women were freedom-fighters too. From my college days, I've known 
quite a few women who were committed to an ideal, and they showed 
much more commitment and consistency than many men I know.

So, what are we talking about? Don't we see through the irony of what 
this 'wear bangles' idiom means? FN

PS: This is a minor side-debate. Otherwise Miguel has done a good job of 
highlighting an issue which needs utmost attention.



[Goanet]'Twas the night Jesus came

2004-12-24 Thread Cynthia Fernandes

 'Twas the night Jesus came


 and all through the house,


 not a person was praying,


   not one in the house..




 The Bible was left


 on the shelf without care,


 for no one thought


  Jesus would come there..




 The children were dressing


 to crawl into bed,


   not once ever kneeling


   or bowing their head..




And Mom in the rocking chair


   with babe on her lap,


 was watching the Late Show


 as I took a nap..




When out of the east


 there rose such a clatter,


I sprang to my feet


to see what was the matter..




 Away to the window


I flew like a flash,


   tore open the shutters


   and lifted the sash..




 When what to my wondering


eyes should appear,


   but Angels proclaiming


   that Jesus was here..




   The light of His face


  made me cover my head...


was Jesus returning


   just like He'd said..




   And though I possessed


 worldly wisdom and wealth,


   I cried when I saw Him


in spite of myself..




In the Book of Life


 which he held in his hand,


was written the name


of every saved man..




He spoke not a word


as he searched for my name,


when He said "it's not here"


  My head hung in shame..




   The people whose names


had been written with love,


He gathered to take


   to his Father above..




 With those who were ready


   He rose without sound,


  while all of the others


were left standing around...




 I fell to my knees


but it was too late,


I'd waited too long


  and thus sealed my fate.




I stood and I cried


 as they rose out of sight,


   Oh, if only I'd known


that this was the night




 In the words of this poem


the meaning is clear


the coming of Jesus


   is now drawing near...




   There's only one life


   and when comes the last call,


   We'll find out that the Bible


   was true after all...

Please send this to as many people as possible... JESUS LOVES YOU

Cynthia




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[Goanet]Press Statement Re: Goa's Liberation Film Documentary VCD by Goa Education Department

2004-12-24 Thread goasuraj
24 December 2004

To:
Goanet Administrator/s.

For kind favour of publication

Thanking you and wishing you a Merry Christmas.

Sd/-
for Goa Su-Raj Party
Floriano Lobo
President
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PRESS STATEMENT

Subject: Release of VCD on "Goa's Liberation" by Goa Education Department:

The Goa Su-Raj Party thanks Goa's Chief Minister Mr. Manohar Parrikar in a
special way for this unique gift he has given to Goa and Goans through the
release of the documentary film on Goa's Liberation focusing on Goa's
prolonged fight for freedom from the longstanding Portuguese colonial
rulers.  From the very beginning, when Mr. Manohar Parrikar took over the
reins of Goa's administration as its Chief Minister, we have warned  peace
loving Goans on several occasions to be alert and watchful for  religious
strifes of the kind that has never been seen in Goa before. We have known
Mr. Manohar Parrikar to be the RSS ideologue,  which he himself soon proved
to one and all by donning  RSS's uniform at the  RSS's parade at parade
grounds, Campal, Panjim. Subsequently, we have the Panjim's Fontainhas'
degrading episode, the Bishop's Palace incidence, the desecration of Sanguem
temple and other instances where these should have been an eye opener to all
sections of Goans who value secular principles. But the effect of
super-camouflaging utilized by Manohar Parriker to deflect the attention of
Goans to his massive saffronisation process of Goa's administrative services
was to blind  gullible Goans to the true colours of the ruling RSS-BJP
dispensation. This film documentary is the ultimate expose', not only of the
RSS-BJP's ultimate intentions for Goa, but the intentions of Mr. Manohar
Parrikar himself in particular. If Goans should opt to remain complacent
after this expose', they will only have themselves to blame for what is to
come.

Goa Su-Raj Party congratulates Goa's freedom fighters who have univocally
denounced the compilation and the release of this vile documentary film. The
statement made by GPYC's Girish Chodankar is wanting in its definition.
Goans have no reason to 'suspect' the RSS hand on Goa's liberation VCD.
Goans are pointing their fingers at Mr. Manohar Parrikar and Mr. Manohar
Parrikar alone for having a hand in this venture. Goa has had RSS leaders
and RSS sympathizers before. But none of them had the temerity to expose
themselves openly and blatantly. With Manohar Parrikar at the helm of
affairs in Goa, they have been emboldened like never before. And we see
their handiwork all too well. Naguesh Karmali, the tamra patra freedom
fighter, Mr. Pawar of the education department, Mr. Ramakant Angle, ex-MP
and all those who have and are defending this affront on  Goa's liberation,
stand exposed as RSS family members who would like nothing better than for
Goa to follow in the foot-steps of Narendra  Modi's Gujarat. We, Goans,
cannot wish things away by merely not speaking about them.

The Goa BJP delegation has rightly visited the Governor of Goa Mr. S.C.
Jamir to submit to him a memorandum, and to remind him of his constitutional
duties and obligations. The only constitutional duty the Governor must
boldly exercise is to dissolve  the present Parrikar government and bring in
President's Rule. This constitutional duty of the Governor will go a long
way in safe-guarding the secular principles enshrined in our Constitution
which are openly threatened by the RSS-BJP government in Goa, more so,
through this despicable film documentary.

Goans of all walks of life, whether Hindus, Muslims, Christians or others,
arise in one voice to hold the Governor of Goa accountable in fulfilling
his Constitutional obligations NOW, and not fall prey to indecisiveness and
procrastination.
END.








Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks

2004-12-24 Thread Frederick Noronha(FN)
Tim,
I think every country discriminates against non-nationals in some way or 
the other. (Trying being Indian, brown and getting a holiday visa to the 
US!) So what are we really complaining about?

In the case of India, this comes in the shape of an economic surcharge. 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this happens in only a very limited 
number of hotels, while the rail and air foreigner-rates don't add up for 
much.

On the other hand, isn't it a scam that international tourism today -- 
specially when involving the so-called 'developing countries' -- is 
premised on the fact that people from the affluent world can get an 
almost-free holiday in a world where a lot of people still starve or 
suffer from a lack of food and resources? (Don't turn around to say 
there are people who gain from tourism, and hence keep inviting the 
guests over.) FN

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Tim de Mello wrote:
The two tier system that was being discussed was the official system 
where non-resident Indians are charged more than local - not "cheating" 
by some.

I was horrified when my wife and I visited the Taj Mahal two years 
back. Local residents had to pay Rs. 20/- and foreigners had to pay Rs. 
750/-. This was an official charge posted on the wall - not just an 
official trying to fleece us.
I notice now that this has been changed since.
I can understand a small surcharge as is being done now to pay for 
upkeep, etc. - but I would have preferred if it was a voluntary 
contribution.

Other places where this two-tier system is practiced:
Hotels
Rail fares
Air Fares
etc.
Tim de Mello
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CANADA



[Goanet]GREETINGS

2004-12-24 Thread WILSON SOARES
Dear goanetters,
On behalf of my family and the Goan Association of
Calgary, here's wishing you and your families, a Very
Merry Christmas and a Bright and Prosperous NEW YEAR 
2005. Lets pray for Joy, Love and Happiness and good
discussions on the net this coming year.

Wilson Soares
Calgary-Canada.

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[Goanet]Merry Christmas

2004-12-24 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Wishing all Goanetters and their families a very merry Christmas.
Best Wishes
Eustaquio Santimano
Singapore
25 December 2004, 00:10


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[Goanet]GREETINGS

2004-12-24 Thread godfrey gonsalves

May the teachings 
of this GREAT MAN
who once lived 
on this Earth  
Enlighten our minds 

for a better world 


Joyous  CHRISTMAS

  
TO

A L  L 



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[Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!

2004-12-24 Thread Ronald Albuquerque
Frederick, I think the point that has been proven is how cranky and
cantankerous we Goenkars are when we get together!!!

I think the heart of the matter is we all just like a good argument.

Merry Christmas, people! 

   > Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:21:28 +0530 (IST)
   > From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   > Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!
   > To: goanet@goanet.org
   > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
   > 
   > Hey guys, enough of this discussion. It has been going on for too long.
   > What point are we trying to prove now? FN



Re: [Goanet]TRUTH HURTS BUT LETS BE OPEN ABOUT IT

2004-12-24 Thread Vincent Andrade
Gabriel,

I have absolutely no hesitation in agreeing with your views. I have
repeatedly stated that
this campaign against Fr Newton must stop until he is proved guilty and Mr
Aires being
an advocate knows this too well - but then like they say " a Leopard doesnt
change his
spots " and the hostility continues.
Lets wait and see how big a  " Lynching Mob" he can gather and how many will
want
to throw the first stone.

When nailed to the Cross - Jesus had only this to say " FATHER FORGIVE THEM
FOR
THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING ".

Cheers !

Vince

>
> Aires,
>
> Please don't judge a person unless ye be judged.
>
> All people are innocent until proven guilty in a court
> of Law.
>
> What you are doing appears to me is create a "lynching
> mob" of people to accuse a person, who may or may not
> be guilty.  Remember The Passion.
>
> Gabriel.
>
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> http://au.movies.yahoo.com
>





Re: [Goanet]"NOITE DE NOEL" - Christmas Seasons' Traditional Entertainment in Kuwait

2004-12-24 Thread Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
May I suggest to the Chinchinim Villagers' Association (Kuwait) that in
future the name of the Entertainment be changed to NOITE DE NATAL. "Noel"
does mean "Christmas" but, while "Noite" is Portuguese, "Noel" is French. -
Thank you.

Jorge

- Original Message -
From: blandino viegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:04 PM
Subject: [Goanet]"NOITE DE NOEL" - Christmas Seasons' Traditional
Entertainment in Kuwait


> "NOITE DE NOEL" - Christmas Seasons' Traditional Entertainment in Kuwait
>
> 'NOITE  DE  NOEL'
>
> Chinchinim Villagers' Association, with expertise in organising Christmas
> season entertainments, are all set to present "NOITE DE NOEL"  at Hotel
Faker
> El Deen (Fakhruddin) Palace, Dawliah Complex, Behind old KAC Bldg., Kuwait
> City,  on 24th December 2004 from 9:00 p.m. onwards.
>
> One of Kuwait's leading bands "IMPRESSIONS" and DJ Mario in attendance.
> Following the success of last year's, Chinchinim Villagers' Association
will
> give you the very best to rejoice and give an opportunity to fellow Goans
to
> wish one another the good tidings of Christmas.
>
> To add to the ambience, Santa Claus with lighten up your spirits with
loads of
> gifts, surprises and prizes all through.  For admission passes pls contact
B.M.
> Viegas 2454371, 2994806, 6474189, Michael 6798105, Albert 5613340 and Jose
> 6406672 or any Chinchinim Villagers Association member.
>
>
> Passes are also be available at LIMRA CARGO SERVICE (MR. TONY - GOLDEN
GOA)
> Tel:  6575653, 9581491,4820619 or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Season's Greetings from the President & Organizing Committee
> Chinchinim Villagers' Association - Kuwait
>
>





[Goanet]Christmas greetings

2004-12-24 Thread Daniel F. de Souza



Here's wishing one and all a Very Merry Christmas
& a Happy and a Prosperous New Year 2005.

May your heart be filled with PEACE &
Home with LOVE & HAPPINESS of the Infant born in the manger.


Daniel F. de Souza
Vasco





[Goanet]Authors, editors, manuscripts, and fees

2004-12-24 Thread Gabe Menezes
From: "Victor Rangel-Ribeiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 8:47 AM
Subject: [Goanet]Authors, editors, manuscripts, and fees
 Why shouldn't editors charge for their painstaking work? We pay carpenters
for repairing our doors, electricians for replacing the wiring in our homes,
priests for saying a mass or blessing a house, doctors for feeling our pulse
and prescribing an aspirin, lawyers for preparing a letter, teachers for
tutoring our children; but some of us expect writers to give us their books 
as
gifts, and editors to edit our work for nothing. It does not make sense.

Regards,
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
RESPONSE: Do we really pay a priest for saying Mass or offering a blessing? 
If so then Luther was correct regarding indulgences and the like. I was 
under the assumption that we paid for expenses incurred and not actually for 
services rendered?

I would appreciate a Priest's or knowledgeable laity's opinion on this 
matter. Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Gabe Menezes. 




[Goanet]Bail mure sarki !!!

2004-12-24 Thread Anthony Barretto
Hi Albertina

What Minguel says is better said in Konkani "Samki
bail mure!" It simply means the man lacks courage of
conviction. 
And what it means certainly does not belittle women I
suppose. It's just a traditional phrase. Of course
that is not denying that many women are indeed
courageous.  

Tony Martin

>Minguel Braganza wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> Can one really call a person,  who is unwilling to
come on record 
about
his
> views on the Goan freedom struggle in a FREE Goa[
currently under a
> pro-hindu BJP dispensation] that is a part of an
INDEPENDENT  India, 
a
> FREEDOM FIGHTER? Such persons are better off wearing
green and red 
glass
> bangles on their arms. 

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[Goanet]Obituary Rao. Telegraph Ldn.

2004-12-24 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;sessionid=2LDKI2GGNWXBTQFIQMFCM5WAVCBQYJVC?xml=/news/2004/12/24/db2401.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/12/24/ixportal.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=43939
PV Narasimha Rao
(Filed: 24/12/2004)
PV Narasimha Rao, who died yesterday aged 83, was the prime minister of 
India between 1991 and 1996; during his premiership he took the considerable 
risk of lifting trade barriers and opening an over-protected country to the 
global economy.

The gamble paid off. If India is today, along with China, well on the way to 
becoming one of the economic powerhouses of the 21st century, much of the 
credit can be given to Rao. In introducing his reforms, he was ably assisted 
by his quiet but focused finance minister, Dr Manmohan Singh, who became 
India's 13th prime minister earlier this year.

Although economic liberalisation had started with his predecessors, Indira 
Gandhi and her son Rajiv, the process was accelerated by Rao when he took 
over as India's ninth prime minister on June 21 1991, a week before his 70th 
birthday. By Indian standards this was not particularly old, but Rao had 
been in semi-retirement for the previous 18 months and had packed his large 
library of books in preparation for a life of scholarly seclusion in 
Hyderabad.

What brought Rao back from the political wilderness was the assassination of 
Rajiv Gandhi, who had been in power, lost it and was apparently on his way 
back to the prime minister's job when he was blown up by a female Tamil 
suicide-bomber in the middle of an election campaign. Since Rajiv's mother, 
too, had been assassinated (in 1984), there were real worries that Indian 
democracy might be derailed.

With the country in turmoil, Rajiv Gandhi's Congress Party turned to Rao as 
a stop-gap leader. He took over at a time when India was facing its worst 
economic crisis since independence from Britain in 1947: inflation was 
running at 17 per cent and the country had some £50 billion of foreign debt. 
But having won the election, Rao chose to stay on, and proved to be the 
leader who dragged the Indian economy from the old to the new.

In his personal demeanour, Rao was an austere, erudite man with a long 
history of service to the Nehru/Gandhi family and to India - he had served 
as foreign minister and defence minister as well as chief minister of his 
own state, Andhra Pradesh. This explains why the country was so shocked when 
he was convicted in 2000 of having bribed four members of parliament to 
support his government in a no-confidence motion in 1993.

He was given a three-year prison sentence, the first prime minister to be 
thus humiliated; but, because of the time taken over the appeal, he did not 
actually have to spend any time in jail. A court later quashed the charges 
against Rao and his co-accused, but his reputation inevitably remained 
tarnished.

After stepping down as prime minister, Rao wrote a long English-language 
novel, The Insider. Although a dense book about land reform, it was billed 
as "the novel that tells the explosive truth about Indian politics". The 
book attracted some notoriety because of a sexually explicit passage, this 
being completely out of character with Rao's dour, unsmiling image.

During a publicity tour, he launched the book at the Nehru Centre in London, 
where an Indian woman was unwise enough to ask him: "Mr Prime Minister, is 
the sexy passage from your imagination or your memory?" An angry Rao 
considered the question to be in poor taste, and chastised his questioner: 
"I never thought NRIs (Non-Resident Indians) could be so despicable."

In recognition of Rao's international stature, Madame Tussaud's made a 
waxwork model of him, one of only a very few Indians who have been so 
honoured. When the Indian prime minister flew to London and stood next to 
his model for the unveiling, as is the custom, a British journalist remarked 
unkindly: "The wax model looks livelier." Later, when Rao was going through 
the bribery scandal, Madame Tussaud's removed the waxwork from public view 
and substituted one of the Bollywood superstar Amitabh Bachchan.

Pamulaparti Venkata (always abbreviated to PV) Narasimha Rao was born on 
June 28 1921 at Karimnagar in Andhra Pradesh, where his Brahmin family had a 
large farm. After taking degrees in Science and Law at Osmania and Nagpur 
universities, he found a job as a reporter with a weekly newspaper.

In 1957 Rao was elected to the Andhra Pradesh legislative assembly, where he 
retained his seat for the next 20 years. In 1962 he became a minister in the 
state government, and in 1971 was made chief minister. In this post he put a 
limit on the size of agricultural holdings, alienating large landowners in 
the process, even though he himself gave up all but 120 acres of his 1,200 
acres of property (all this would later provide somewhat dull material for 
his novel).

In 1974 he was appointed general secretary of the Congress Party's national 
governing co

[Goanet]Merry Christmas & Best Wishes for 2005

2004-12-24 Thread Joseph Fernandes
Hi 

I Wish you all A MERRY CHRISTMAS & A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR 2005, May GOD 
Bless you with Peace & Happiness and give you every success throughout 
your life.

Regards 
Joseph



[Goanet]Authors, editors, manuscripts, and fees

2004-12-24 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Dear Goanetters, 

 Like Margaret Mascarenhas, I am both an author and an editor, and although 
we work in far different parts of the world---she in Goa and Mumbai, I in Goa 
but mostly in New York---we have this in common: we help other deserving 
writers as much as we can.

 Like writing, editing is a demanding job. It's not just a question of 
putting in a comma here and a full stop there; in what is called "substantive 
editing", a good editor will spend hours recasting individual sentences, and 
sometimes entire passages, in order to make them read more smoothly, or make 
their meaning clear. Sometimes this type of time-consuming editing has to be 
done even with manuscripts by authors who have an international reputation.

 Obviously, there are limits as to how much time we can spare to edit 
somebody else's work, since we have our own writing to do; and because our time 
is limited, we need to focus on the most deserving of the many deserving 
writers who continually seek our help. How do I define a "deserving" writer? To 
me, a deserving writer is one who already writes well, at or near professional 
standards, but needs some editorial pointers to put his or her work over the 
top. A good writer who is poor would be deserving of help; a writer who writes 
less well would produce work that would need a lot of editing, and that would 
take up more time than I, for one, would be able to give. A writer in that 
situation would be better off going to a writing teacher.

 The pressure on our time, as I mentioned earlier, stems in part from the 
fact that we have our own creative writing to do. Fortunately, unlike the 
situation in Goa, here in New York we have a breed of professional editors who 
are not writers, but focus entirely on editing; alas---one must pay through the 
nose for their expertise and their services, $50 and more an hour. At that 
rate, Rs. 5,000 would buy a writer about two and a half hours of editing time, 
enough to take care of between 20 and 60 pages, depending on the quality of the 
writing.

 Why shouldn't editors charge for their painstaking work? We pay carpenters 
for repairing our doors, electricians for replacing the wiring in our homes, 
priests for saying a mass or blessing a house, doctors for feeling our pulse 
and prescribing an aspirin, lawyers for preparing a letter, teachers for 
tutoring our children; but some of us expect writers to give us their books as 
gifts, and editors to edit our work for nothing. It does not make sense.

 Regards,
 Victor Rangel-Ribeiro



[Goanet]Xavier's Psychoblitz - 2004

2004-12-24 Thread St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science & Commerce - Mapusa -
Xavier's Psychoblitz - 2004

 
The ramifications of Psychology are so interesting and useful in 
different spheres of our life that everyone has an opportunity to make its best 
use – said Mr. Muktesh Chander, the Deputy Inspector General of Police 
inaugurating the unique State-level intercollegiate Psychology 
festival "Xavier’s Psychoblitz 2004" at St Xavier's College of Arts, Science 
and Commerce, Mapusa. The DIG stressed the importance of Psychology in 
Criminology and crime detection. Addressing the young participants the 
Principal of the College  expressed the hope that the aim of Psychoblitz  to 
help all live together happily would be fulfilled. He also urged them to be 
creative in all their activities.
 
The festival saw a variety of competitions aimed at the development of 
various skills required of a Psychologist. The winners of the various 
competitive events were: Dhempe College of Arts and Science won the 1st place 
in "Save Our Souls", 2nd place in "Search Your Way" and 3rd place in "Just-a-
minute" and "Creative 'I'". Carmel College of Arts, Science and Commerce won 
the 1st place in "Bull's Eye" and 2nd place in "Aaj Ki Taaza Khabar". MES 
College of Arts and Commerce won the 1st place in "Just-a-minute" and 2nd place 
in "Save Our Souls". Saraswat Vidyalaya's College of Commerce and Management 
Studies won the 1st place in "Creative 'I'", 2nd place in "Just-a-minute" and 
3rd place in "Aaj Ki Taaza Khabar". Rosary College of Arts and Commerce won the 
1st place in "Aaj Ki Taaza Khabar", 3rd place in "Search Your Way" and "Bull's 
Eye" and St Xavier's College of Arts, Science and Commerce won the 1st place 
in "Search Your Way", 2nd place in  "Creative 'I'", and "Bull's Eye" and 3rd 
place in "save Our Souls". 
 
The points of each event were tabulated and the "Xavier's Psychoblitz 2004" 
trophy went to St. Xavier’s College, the 1st runners-up was Dhempe College and 
the 2nd runners-up was Saraswat Vidyalaya's College of Commerce and Management 
Studies.
Mrs. Anju Timblo was the Chief-Guest for the valedictory function. She 
urged the students to use this opportunity to enhance their potentials.

The occasion also saw the release of the 3rd issue of the in-house 
magazine "BECOMING" which is aimed at discussing the latest developments in the 
field of Psychology. The Post-Graduate Department of Psychology also organized 
an exhibition where various Psychological tests and instruments were displayed.



[Goanet]Talking Movies At Xavier's

2004-12-24 Thread St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science & Commerce - Mapusa -
Talking Movies At Xavier's

While the fever of the International Film Festival of India began to subside in 
Panaji, the Film Club of St. Xavier's College, Mapusa generated its own heat 
during a three-day  festival of "Films with a difference", the club comprising 
of students interested in theatre as well as films and media, invited Ms. 
Gayathri Konkar of `Moving Images' to screen and conduct discussions on a 
selection of special films on the 14th, 15th and 16th of December, 04.

The festival coincided with the three-day Fete commemorating the closing of the 
College Ruby Jubilee Year.  'The Colour of Paradise' is a multiple award 
winning film by the Iranian director Majid Majidi.  The story of the young 
blind boy Mohammed and his innocent quest for love and acceptance in 
the 'normal' world around him, moved the audience to silent tears.  Majidi's 
fine handling of the simple story-line, combined with breathtaking 
cinematography, was a celebration not only of the rare natural beauty of Iran, 
but also of the 'other kind' of film.

Director Antonio Pedro Vasconcelos', Cannes, Best Debut award-winning feature 
film 'Jaime' was a stark exposé of the dark world of the poor and unemployed 
youth of Portugal Vasconcelo handles this universal theme with a moving yet 
unpretentious honesty, portraying the plight of the eponymous hero with a 
sensitivity rarely seen in most contemporary mainstream films.

The screening of Alan Parker's gripping American Civil rights era 
film, 'Mississippi Burning' starring, Gene Hackman and Willem Dafoe, served as 
an appropriate sounding board for generating a healthy discussion on the 
differences between Art films and mainstream 'flicks'.  The general observation 
was that the latter category  tended to depend largely on powerful background 
scores and the rapid shifting of scenes to hold audience attention, while the 
former moved at a more deliberate pace, dwelling on subtle details, using 
natural sound effects to cater to the taste of a more focused and perhaps 
sensitive audience.

The French film 'The Fabulous Destiny of Amelie Poulaine'and 'The Victor 
Weeps'  a powerful documentary on the plight of the Afghan refugee produced  by 
world class photographer Fazal Sheikh, provided that additional dimension to 
the viewer’s perspective of the silver screen.

On the whole, the free screening of  movies on campus and the interesting 
discussions on themes, Cinematography, Art versus mainstream film etc. that 
were generated after each screening, was a truly enriching learning experience.

"We were fortunate to be given the opportunity to watch and appreciate such 
interesting and inspiring films at no cost" and "...even though the films were 
in different languages, we didn’t mind reading the subtitles because they all 
tell a unique story" said one of the students, echoing the general feeling 
after the festival.  It is interesting to note that in addition to being one of 
the few colleges in Goa to have a Theatre Club, St. Xavier's is now perhaps the 
only colleges to have successfully hosted their own film festival.

The students are already looking forward to the next St. Xavier's "Film 
Festival With A Difference" which is set to run for a longer duration and 
showcase a wider variety of films.

The festival was coordinated  by Ms. Alice D'Cruz, the Head of the Department 
of English.



[Goanet]Greetings...Boas Festas...Natalanchim Porbim...Joyeux Noel

2004-12-24 Thread FERNANDO DO REGO
Christmas and New Year Greetings. 

Boas Festas do Natal e Ano Novo 

Natalanchi  anim Novea Vorsachim Porbim 

Joyeux Noel et Heureuse Année Nouvelle


Fernando do Rego & Family.

Fernando do Rego.
143-Fontainhas.Pangim 403.001.
GOA. INDIA TEL:222.6353.



[Goanet]Christmas Week at Holy Cross Church, St Cruz (Goa) with emphasis on Goan traditions

2004-12-24 Thread GoaWorld.Com
The Christmas Week will be observed in the Parish of the Holy Cross Church, St 
Cruz with the usual pomp and solemnity. The venue will project the festivity 
through brightly illuminated arches and stars erected by various wards that 
constitute the village. Midnight High Mass will be held on December 24 to mark 
the birth of Christ and December 31 to usher in the New Year - with prayers. A 
week-long variety entertainment programme by various wards will be presented 
from December 26-30 from 6.30 pm onwards. The programmes include carols, skits, 
songs and a novel introduction of enacting a traditional Goan scenario 
specialty related to a Goan wedding, like Resper, Vhorr, Portonnem, Xim, 
Vhojem, Chuddo, Dennem, Jevonn, etc. The daily programme shall be enhanced by 
famous Goan stage performers like Wilmix and Sharon, Anthony San, Ben 
Evangelisto. Fancy dress for all age groups will be held on December 30. The 
week-long programme culminates with grand ward wise serenade on the New Year’s 
Day with each ward depicting a Christmas carol with the introduction of colour 
scheme to each ward. The curtains will come down with playing of a Brass Band. 

(O'Herald)
 
- Forwarded by www.goa-world.com/goa/konkani/
 

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[Goanet]Manifestly, His is a birthday worth celebrating

2004-12-24 Thread GoaWorld.Com
Manifestly, His is a birthday worth celebrating

December 24, 2004/Sydney Morning Herald

The death in October of the French philosopher Jacques Derrida saw the passing 
of one of the more influential intellects of the past 50 years, but not of the 
school of thought he inspired - deconstructionism or postmodernism. Derrida 
advanced a loosely conceived notion that nothing can be said to exist beyond 
the language used to describe it. He held that all knowledge is socially 
constructed, that the meaning of words is essentially arbitrary and subject to 
interpretation so that reality is ultimately unknowable.


These propositions have been used to argue that there is no such thing as 
objective truth, only an endless multiplicity of subjective truths. "Outside of 
the text there is nothing," argued Derrida. And inside it, say his champions, 
is nothing but a string of infinite possibilities. In response to the latter 
argument, The Spectator magazine in Britain headlined an article on Derrida's 
death: "Is Derrida really dead?" The headline was irreverent sarcasm and a 
comment on the intellectual nihilism of the age which regularly manifests 
itself in protests at the public celebration of the Christian core of Christmas 
because it might offend the sensibilities of non-Christians or perhaps because 
it is judged to be no more than a collective delusion.
 

This intellectual nihilism is interpreted to mean that ideas are less important 
than the way they are expressed, that an idea has no more value than the way 
that it is interpreted by anyone who may receive it, and that no firm 
conclusions can be drawn about anything. The postmodernist critique elevates 
respect for others into a kind of uncritical celebration of difference.

One manifestation is political correctness. Another is the so-called cultural 
war in the West in which many postmodernists deny the validity of authority, 
tradition or custom of any kind. Such thinking has obvious appeal. It offers a 
freedom from the discipline of scholarship and the responsibilities of truth 
(because all disciplines are arbitrary and all truths relative). It rejects 
established social, moral and political values (because none can ever have a 
higher claim than any others). It also suits the individualistic attitudes of 
the day - the demand that the self is master of its own destiny unbridled by 
any need to consider others.

Derrida might not have agreed with the lengths to which his ideas have been 
taken. There is no contradiction, for instance, between what he wrote and the 
need for moral principles such as equality, justice and generosity. And while 
Derrida did argue that objective truth is beyond our grasp, that is not to say 
that it does not exist, only that it can never be entirely understood or 
communicated with precision.

If ever there was a story that could be dismissed as a mere social construction 
it is the story of Christmas. The gospel writers who told the story of the 
nativity were not drawing on eyewitness accounts or documentary evidence. Their 
reports are inconsistent, even contradictory. The story has been embellished 
over the centuries by believers and non-believers to the point where, in its 
popular representation, Christmas is a strange mix of the religious and the 
secular, of the spiritual and the purely gaudy, of the inspirational and the 
crassly commercial.

Yet peel back the layers of interpretation and adaptation, dismantle (or 
deconstruct) the narrative devices employed in the Christmas story and one is 
still left with a central message that, in the person of Jesus of Nazareth, God 
became incarnate in human affairs. This incarnation reveals something of the 
nature of God and the destiny of human kind.

God offers new life in the form of a newborn child, and like a child, He offers 
it unconditionally. Those who accept the offer, however, are born anew and 
their lives and deaths take on new meaning within the divine plan of redemption.

The gospel of John anticipates a postmodernist critique of this message. The 
spirit of God that dwells in Jesus Christ, it says, was active in every human 
being before the incarnation. It was a yearning for the light which shines in 
darkness although "the darkness comprehended it not". This yearning was not 
created by the doctrines of the church or of other human constructions. It is 
innate.

That is why the central message of Christmas - as distinct from the details of 
the story - has remained consistent for two millennia and has been received 
into virtually every culture on earth.

Derrida foresaw the dangerous polarisation of the world into fundamentalist 
creeds held by people who confidently assert that religion offers clear meaning 
and certainty. Religion, Derrida has argued, is important precisely because it 
calls into question all certainty and security and the arrogance that parades 
as conviction. This, too, is inherent in the Christmas story. The Messiah comes 

Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roost!

2004-12-24 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Hey guys, enough of this discussion. It has been going on for too long. 
What point are we trying to prove now? FN



[Goanet]Media and corruption -- from watchdog to lapdog

2004-12-24 Thread Sachin Phadte
The article by Rajdeep Sardesai posted by Fredrick Noronha makes for  
somewhat depressing reading.  Particularly when Rajdeep says: "In the  years 
since being a cub reporter, I have realised that a mithai box is  only loose 
change in the institutionalised corruption that is part of  the journalistic 
profession."

And: "Some of the old-timers would whisper and suggest that this  
'corruption' of the media is only a new trend, that it is only a  reflection 
of a general fall in journalistic norms and values. That is a  whole load of 
rubbish. Let us get it straight: the kind of media  corruption that we are 
witnessing today is no Murdochian conspiracy as  some would have us believe. 
It is the product of an incestuous system  and a journalistic milieu which 
for a long time has survived on mutual  benefit."

In the circumstances, should we not take any of the investigative  
reporting, or whatever, with a huge pinch of salt.  While reading the  
article by Rajdeep, my depression increased, because nowhere does he say  
that he returned the mithai parcel or the bottle of whiskey.  Yes, he  has 
said that he pays for the accommodation and travel in one case.  But  he 
seems to be selective in  his acceptance of hospitality.

Perhaps the journalists should have a rule on acceptance of gifts -  namely, 
they should not accept it, and if given should be returned.

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[Goanet]Re: Seminar, Nov 2004 issue *Amchem Goem*

2004-12-24 Thread Philip Thomas
I have recently obtained copies of the following books:

1. The 9/11 Commission Report : The Final Report of the National Commission
on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States. (567 pages)

2. The Fortune at the Bottom of the Pyramid: Eradicating Poverty through
Profits (by Prof. CK Prahalad) (400 pages + 35 min. CD)

3. Indian in the Global Software Industry: Innovation, Firm Strategies and
Development by Anthony P. D'Costa  and E. Sridharan (eds). (292 pages)

There must be links to any or all these books on google, amazon.com etc. But
if any goanetters are interested  pls post your msg and I will try to
respond earliest. Looking forward to an exchange of stimulating ideas with
goanetters -- on goanet.



[Goanet]The Mom Before Christmas

2004-12-24 Thread Chris Fernandes
To:  All the Moms - may they hv more power to their arms n hearts
tooChris

Twas the night before Christmas,
when all thru the abode
Only one creature was stirring,
and she was cleaning the commode.

The children were finally sleeping,
all snug in their beds,
while visions of Nintendo and Barbie,
flipped through their heads.

The dad was snoring
in front of the TV,
with a half-constructed bicycle
propped on his knee.

So only the mom heard
the reindeer hooves clatter,
which made her sigh,
"Now what is the matter?"

With toilet bowl brush
still clutched in her hand,
She descended the stairs,
and saw the old man.

He was covered with ashes and soot,
which fell with a shrug,
"Oh great," muttered the mom,
"Now I have to clean the rug."

"Ho Ho Ho!" cried Santa,
"I'm glad you're awake."
"your gift was especially
difficult to make."

"Thanks, Santa, but all I want
is some time alone."
"Exactly!" he chuckled,
"So, I've made you a clone."

"A clone?" she muttered,
"What good is that?"
"Run along, Santa,
I've no time for chit chat."

Then out walked the clone -
The mother's twin,
Same hair, same eyes,
same double chin.

"She'll cook, she'll dust,
she'll mop every mess.
You'll relax, take it easy,
watch The Young and The Restless."

"Fantastic!" the mom cheered.
"My dream has come true!"
"I'll shop, I'll read,
I'll sleep a night through!"

>From the room above,
the youngest did fret.
"Mommy!  Come quickly,
I'm scared and I'm wet."

The clone replied,
"I'm coming, sweetheart."
"Hey," the mom smiled,
"She sure knows her part."

The clone changed the small one
and hummed her tune,
as she bundled the child
in a blanket cocoon.

"You're the best mommy ever.
I really love you."
The clone smiled and sighed,
"And I love you, too."

The mom frowned and said,
"Sorry, Santa, no deal."
That's my child's LOVE
she is trying to steal."

Smiling wisely Santa said,
"To me it is clear,
Only one loving mother
is needed here."

The mom kissed her child
and tucked her in bed.
"Thank You, Santa,
for clearing my head.

I sometimes forget,
it won't be very long,
when they'll be too old
for my cradle and song."

The clock on the mantle
began to chime.
Santa whispered to the clone,
"It works every time."

With the clone by his side
Santa said "Goodnight.
Merry Christmas, dear Mom,
You will be all right."

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[Goanet]RIBANDAR MOLESTATION CASE: CHILDREN'S COURT ADJOURNS MATTER TO 7th JANUARY

2004-12-24 Thread airesrod
The Goa Children's Court headed by South Goa District
Judge A.D.Salkar today  announced that it would
deliver on 7th January its order on the
maintainability of the criminal complaint filed by Mr.
Anthony Frois uncle of the minor girl allegedly
molested by Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton
Rodrigues. 

The Court today heard further arguments advanced on
behalf of the Complainant Mr. Frois.  

The Court was told that the offence allegedly
committed by the priest was very serious and that
though it was a year today the priest was yet to face
the due process of law.

The complaint, which is the first of its kind before
the recently constituted Children’s court, has been
filed by Mr. Frois against the Parish Priest in view
of the police dragging its feet in filing the charge
sheet against the accused priest.

On Dec 24th last year before the X’mas midnight  mass
Fr. Newton Rodrigues allegedly took the 13-year-old
Ribandar girl to a room in the church on the pretext
of taking confession and molested her.

Fr. Newton Rodrigues is the first Roman Catholic
Priest in Goa against whom the police have registered
an F.I.R for an offence of molestation.

When the matter came up for hearing today strong
exception was taken that the case was not listed on
the board and the Court’s attention was drawn to the
fact  that a officer of the court who happens to be a
catholic had directed the clerk not to list the case
on the board to apparently avoid embarrassment to the
accused priest.

Taking prompt cognizance of this complaint Judge A.D
Salkar directed that the private criminal complaint
against the accused priest be registered  and that it
should appear on the board whenever fixed for hearing.
 

Meanwhile a contempt of Court petition filed against
Inspector Mrs. Ezilda D' Souza for not complying with
her statement is already pending before the Panaji
Bench of the Bombay High Court.












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[Goanet]Merry Xmas Goanetters!

2004-12-24 Thread Silviano Barbosa
Hi goanetters,
Sorry did not have enough time to thank Frederic Noronha, Margaret 
Mascarenhas  and all goanetters who graced the occasion for the release of 
my novel "The Sixth Night".
I won't take any other names, but I thank each and everyone present there 
and others in spirit. It was  my pleasure meeting everyone in person. Sorry 
I disappointed you all by being very nervous. I am not a very public person, 
rokddi bhirant eta( I think my primary school teacher put that fear in me).
Anyway, dista toshem nasta, don't go by my looks, read what's in my novel 
and make your own judgement.
Thanks Cecil, Joel and Vince Andrade and someone else (forget the name) for 
the kind words and support and also to everyone for your encouragement and 
support.
Special thanks to all the journalists present and for publishing the press 
realease and photo on Goamantak Times, Navhind Times and Herald. Also thanks 
to GoaPlus for carrying my interview on the local TV. You guys make me feel 
like I am a star. So now I can say I was on TV and papers (ok more than 5000 
copies sold?). The last time I saw my name was when I won second prize in 
Poetry competion by Konkani Bhasha Mandal way back in 1968, behind Olivinho 
Gomes who got the first prize. Why didnt' you guys put ads like that "Babush 
Monserrati" for me ('cause I am not a politician? it figures. Amkodde ani 
kitem assam re, bhoje?)
Anyway it is nice to be in Goa and enjoying the good times. People are nice, 
can spend dollars in rupees and can have 33 times the fun.(How can you 
lose?)
Only hope that stupid cholesterol doesn't show up and spoil the fun
Wishing everyone Merry Xmas (or Happy Xmas as some say in Goa, ok Fepi Xmas 
like my mom used to say, whom I visited twice at St. Inez cemetery)
All in all a great and busy time in Goa
Merry Xmas everyone
Life is short, enjoy it, the way Goans do!
Will write a review soon on "Alishaa", the Konkani movie running in INOX 
presently, which I saw yesterday.




[Goanet]24 DEC 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2004-12-24 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
December 24, 2004

'FILM DOES INJUSTICE': The government's contention that the film on Goa's
liberation struggle was accepted by the freedom fighters in the State was
totally false, Vasant Molio, president of Goa, Daman and Diu Freedom
Fighters Association said yesterday. Making a strong case for the immediate
withdrawal of the controversial VCD, which seeks to 'distort history', he
said the government should tender an apology to freedom fighters for the
objectionable film. (GT)

THE MISSIONARIES WERE BRUTAL: ANGLE: Margao-based 80-year-old Bhiku Pai
Angle, a veteran stage artiste, student of history and one of the doyens of
Marathi movement in Goa - a witness to the proselytisation efforts of the
erstwhile Portuguese rulers has come out in strong support of the government
and has wholeheartedly endorsed its actions in telecasting the CD "Goa KA
Swadhinta Sangram" in all schools in the State. "The conversions were led by
ST Francis Xavier earlier," he said. (GT)

"A THIRD-RATE, PATHETIC FILM": When GT invited Goan poet and historian Dr
Manoharrai Sardessai to watch the 68-minute 'documentary' on Goa's
liberation struggle, he refused saying that he had watched the film a year
back and found it terribly disappointing. "It's a third-rate, pathetic film
and I don't want to watch it again. Such a film shouldn't be shown in Goa."
(GT)

CONG TO AGITATE: The North Goa District Congress Committee has decided to
launch an agitation at various levels to seek the withdrawal of the VCD on
Goa's freedom struggle. (GT)

EX-PM NARASIMHA RAO DEAD: Mr PV Narasimha Rao, the architect of India's
economic reforms and the first prime minister outside Nehru-Gandhi clan to
complete a full five-year team in office, died in New Delhi after a bout of
serious illness for the last fortnight.

ONE COMMITS SUICIDE OVER LOVE AFFAIR: A 21-year-old boy from Chinchinim, who
recently returned from abroad, allegedly committed suicide on Thursday after
his girl friend reportedly preferred to end the relationship, police
disclosed. (H)

BJP MEMORANDUM TO GOVERNOR: A memorandum presented by the State unit of the
BJP to the Governor, Mr SC Jamir, on December 23, condemned the Opposition
Congress party for causing constant hindrances to the government and its
functioning by way of Opposition which is far from being constructive. (NT)

PRISON REPORT SUBMITTED: A report on the state of prisons in Goa, compiled
by a four-member commission, was submitted to the Bombay High Court of Goa
on Wednesday. The commission was appointed in the wake of a petition filed
by undertrial Richard D'Souza who questioned several alleged wrongs on the
part of the State prisons' administration. (GT)

GOODS DESTROYED AT VASCO: Goods worth around Rs.50,000 were destroyed in a
fire at the home of an elderly man, Custodio Menezes from Colaco Arcade on
the main Vasco-Baina road. While ironing his clothes at around 3.30 pm, it
was reported that the elderly man got drowsy and fell asleep. The fire
started and slowly spread across the whole room. (H)

THOUSANDS PAY TRIBUTES TO FR OLAVO: Thousands of people paid their last
tributes to the director of the Diocesan Centre for Social Communications
Media of Archdiocese of Goa, Fr Olavo Velho Pereira, as his body was laid to
rest at Benaulim on December 23. In his speech, the Archbishop, Rev Filipe
Neri Ferrao said that the Archdiocese had lost a talented priest who had
contributed much for the growth of the society through his various talents.
"As a pilgrim, Fr Pereira gave his entire life for his flock and crushed
himself till the end of his journey in order to attain eternal life," he
added. (NT)

SCOPE FOR MUTUAL FUNDS IS TREMENDOUS: KURIAN: "With NRI money flowing into
Goa there is a tremendous scope for mutual funds in Goa," stated AP Kurian,
chairman, Association of Mutual Funds in India. Speaking at a press
conference, Kurian said that over the years the Mutual Fund market has grown
in India. "Today we have an investment worth 1,50,000 crore and world's
prominent players working in India," he said. (GT)

BODY FOUND: A highly decomposed body of an unknown person was found hanging
to a banyan tree, behind the military camp at Dhavlim in Ponda. (NT)

MMC WORKERS GO ON STRIKE: Work at Margao Municipal Council office was
totally paralysed after lunch break on Thursday (December 23) when all
employees of the Council went on strike in protest against an assault on one
of their colleague. MMC chairperson Kamilini Painguinkar speaking to the
press stated that the protest was uncalled for as immediate action was
initiated and the assailant was arrested. (GT)

NEW BOOK ON OLD GOA: 'In & Around Old Goa' by Heta Pandit, published by Marg
Publications, has been released recently. The book is also for the
academically inclined reader who is searching for something more than what
the average guidebook has to offer. It has over 100 illustrations in colour
and contributions by renowned experts, photographs and resea

Re: [Goanet]TRUTH HURTS BUT LETS BE OPEN ABOUT IT

2004-12-24 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
 --- Aires Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Many fellow netters have been writing to me
> privately in support of the
> campaign to get to the bottom of the Ribandar Church
>  Molestation case. 
>...
> But when a 13 year old girl is molested no sensible
> person could sit back in
> silence. The victim's mother confirmed to me that
> the incident had happened.
>...
>For those who may not be aware the Children's Court
> is located on the first
> Floor , Shram Shakti Bhavan, Pato Plaza, Panaji

Aires,

Please don't judge a person unless ye be judged.  

All people are innocent until proven guilty in a court
of Law.  

What you are doing appears to me is create a "lynching
mob" of people to accuse a person, who may or may not
be guilty.  Remember The Passion. 

Gabriel.

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Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks

2004-12-24 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
 --- "Frederick Noronha(FN)" 
> I don't know who you would count as the 'commonman'
> of 
> Portuguese-ruled colonial Goa, but a lot of comment
> that looks at those 
> times without Lusostalgia suggests that apart from a
> pampered but tiny 
> upper middle-class, the vast majority found life
> tough.
> 
> Or would you see this as an incorrect view? FN
> 

Still off-topic, AFAIK no one died of hunger. Life was
tough, yes I agree (even for some considered as the
middle-class), but Lusostalgia or not, the Provedoria
and other organisations and good-heartedness of the
people ensured the well-being of everyone. 

Cheers and best wishes for a Holy and a Joyful
Christmas,  

Gabriel.

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Re: [Goanet]Some "FFs" need bangles!

2004-12-24 Thread albertina almeida
Hey Miguel,

Excuse me. While I don't disagree with the thread of your views that freedom
fighters worth their name should be able to stand up for and stand by what
they are supposed to have stood for,  I don't see how they would be "better
off wearing green and red bangles"? What really are you saying Miguel?

albertina
> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:23:39 +0530
> From: Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "GT-Ed." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Goanet 
> Subject: [Goanet]Some "FFs" need bangles!
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
>
> To,
> The Editor,
> Gomantak Times,
> Panaji
>
> Sub: "Nothing objectionable,only factual" says Nagesh Karmali. GT dated
> 23.12.2004 page 1.
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Can one really call a person,  who is unwilling to come on record about
his
> views on the Goan freedom struggle in a FREE Goa[ currently under a
> pro-hindu BJP dispensation] that is a part of an INDEPENDENT  India, a
> FREEDOM FIGHTER? Such persons are better off wearing green and red glass
> bangles on their arms. If they cannot speak, the truth or otherwise, with
> their names on record in a country that enshrines the Freedom of Speech in
> its Constitution, they are unlikely to have dared to work against the
> dictatorial regime of antonio Oliviera de Salazar. The tamra patra that
they
> have fraudulently obtained to benefit from the pension and reservation
> schemes should be returned to the Government.
>



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Re: [Goanet]Re: Chickens coming home to roast!

2004-12-24 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Bush has done nothing as you mention.  This is
> typical bovine excrement from the Globe & Mail.  
> All American companies have always had the same tax 
> advantages, and virtually no restrictions on how
> they do business. The US economy, after the 
> economic slowdown in 2000-2001 and the shocks 
> of 9/11 has the fastest rate of job growth 
> among all western countries, includion
> Canada, so I have no idea what you are nattering on
> about Terre Haute.

Mario,
There used to be a time when I wondered whether I
should point out to you that you are the ONLY member
on this forum that uses crude language. Now I debate
on whether your replies here are serious or are only
worth reading their "entertainment value." 

> The US unemployment rate is 5.4%, whereas it is
> almost 7.5% in Canada and 10% 
> in the major European countries (France, Germany,
> Spain & Italy), so put away that feni bottle, 
> Mervyn.

Mario, 
Where did you get there numbers from? A bar in Toledo?



> Taxes by themselves have nothing to do with jobs
> being outsourced, which is 
> shown by the fact that the US has gained far more
> jobs from "insourcing" by foreign companies than 
> they have lost to outsourcing.


When you give a multi-national a tax break for sending
jobs abroad, guess what they are going to do? 

I also hope that the "insourcing" jobs that you refer
to, are not the type that all the training required 
is to say, "Would you like fries with that?"


 
> Mario replies:
> It always amuses me when someone from a less
> developed country that we support and protect
> pities us.
> Mario replies:
> Our taxes pay for your ability to talk nonsense
> about us.


Thanks for your taxes :-) 

How is it supposed to work in the US? No taxation
without representation?


> Mario replies:
> No one had to tell me this.  All I had to do was
> compare what they were writing with a number of 
> sources of information now available to us.
> As long as Goanetters are not reading the propaganda
> newspapers they will be all right.

Now I am really amused.
In fact, the above would qualify you for the title
"Abbot of Unreason" or maybe, "Master of Merry
Disport."

Mervyn2.0



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[Goanet]MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR

2004-12-24 Thread WILSON SOARES
HELLO EVERYONE,
ALONG WITH MY FAMILY, I LIKE TO EXTEND SPECIAL
GREETING TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ON THIS SPECIAL
OCCASION WHICH IS THE BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOUR JESUS
CHRIST.
MAY THE SEASON BRING JOY, HEALTH AND HAPPINESS IN YOUR
LIVES.
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU ALL.
WILSON SOARES

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Re: [Goanet]Cheapie Brits visiting Goa along their butlers, chefs and cooks

2004-12-24 Thread Tim de Mello
From: "Frederick Noronha(FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote:
Fred, the issue here was we were shown one set of
menus with one set of prices, and when charged, we
were charged a different higher price.  It would have
been OK *if* we were shown the higher prices at the
very start, which is when we would have made up our
minds whether to eat there or not.  And it wasn't a
"Rs 20.00 a rice plate" place either - a bit more
upmarket than that.
That's my point! You got over-charged (read cheated). I get overcharged 
whenever they come to know I'm a non-local. It has nothing to do with the 
fact that low budget tourists don't pay luxury taxes -- which Miguel 
pointed out.
===
Fred:
With all due respect, this is not the point.
The two tier system that was being discussed was the official system where 
non-resident Indians are charged more than local - not "cheating" by some.

I was horrified when my wife and I visited the Taj Mahal two years back.
Local residents had to pay Rs. 20/- and foreigners had to pay Rs. 750/-. 
This was an official charge posted on the wall - not just an official trying 
to fleece us.
I notice now that this has been changed since.
I can understand a small surcharge as is being done now to pay for upkeep, 
etc. - but I would have preferred if it was a voluntary contribution.

Other places where this two-tier system is practiced:
Hotels
Rail fares
Air Fares
etc.
Tim de Mello
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CANADA