Re: [Goanet]Chinese Fable
Hi all, Its nice to be back and start a grueling summer once again in this part of the world, while goa experiences rainy days. And also to stay in touch with goa thru Goanews. But i am really disappointed to see people spreading urban legends through goanet now. It just keeps our mailbox stuffed with Spam and some useless talk going round and round, repetitions, etc. Can we put a stop to this please...and contribute to make a Think Tank as few suggested. hAVE a nICE dAY Seb.. _
Re: [Goanet]Chinese Fable
On 17/06/05, Cynthia Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... For that reason I say.. Blessings to all my crackpot family friends here too. Cynthia RESPONSE: I have gone off you! I thought you came for an well rounded, sound Brahmin family. Now you inform us that they are crackpots and your friends too. Like Salus Correia, who prays for others I shall pray for you and your family, that this dastardly affliction may pass away. Your family and friends definitely need blessings. You poor thing, can I adopt you? Cheers. Gabe Menezes. London England.
[Goanet]Viva Goa celebrations in Toronto on July 23rd
*The G.O.A cordially invites you to attend:* The 8th Annual *VIVA GOA:* *Land of Paradise!!* * * *Saturday, July 23, 2005* *9am- 1am* *Downsview Hangar** 75 Carl Hall Road Toronto, Ontario, M3K 2B9* Over 40 stalls will be set up with Goan foods and treats, arts and crafts, real estate, travel, financial institutions, and as well many other event sponsors. This year's Viva Goa is expected to attract more than 5000 people from around the Globe and Greater Toronto Area. Come enjoy good food, take in a soccer game, volleyball or participate in the darts tournament... meet old friends and have fun involving yourself in the activities! View Goan cultural events at their best and dance to the early hours of the next morning! Adult tickets: $10 (at the door) or $7 in advance Children's tickets: $2.00 (5 - 10 years) 4 and under FREE *To purchase your tickets please contact the following*: http://www.goatoronto.com/events/Page_3.php
Re: [Goanet]Re: *** Goanet Reader -- Goan society, its future direction...
10 years ago the lists and forums were initiated by Goans. Goans are gullible, 43 years of neo imperialism rubbed into them. The education must continue. Even the king of Goa Suraj never new of the plunder taking place in Goa until... B. Colaco Whether it is single point or multipoint, we both seem to have a vested interest in Goa's problem set, right? But the push may be coming from polar opposite directions! And yet, oddly enough, the end result will probably be equally infructuous! How about that?! Regards. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: Acres of Diamonds
Santosh Helekar writes: From my standpoint, perpetuation of falsehoods under any guise causes grave harm to society, and a gratuitous defense of it adds insult to injury. Peter responds: Santosh, mea culpa. Pardon my ignorance of the magnitude of Cynthia's offense. I had no idea that it had or could cause grievous harm to anybody and have serious societal consequences. Personally, I am sorry for causing you such injury. If only I had realised that you felt injured, I'd have done my best not to add insult to it. Santosh (continued): You fail to see the simple fact that stating that I did no harm in pointing out the errors, is at odds with your claim that I wasted much emotion in doing so. Peter responds: Mea culpa again--I never once thought that wasting emotions was harmful. Santosh (continued): I don't think you can read my emotions, if for nothing else then for the well-recognized difficulty of doing so across the gaping electronic void of cyberspace. Peter responds: Mea maxima culpa. You're such a logical and (seemingly) rational fellow, that when you used an exclamation mark in your original posting about this alleged scam it seemed like you were quite upset. You're right, emotions never are communicated too well in cyberspace. Santosh (continued): The irony of it is that if you had not tried to be gratuitously and pointlessly defensive about this urban legend, from a habitual and exclusive purveyor of such myths, the matter would have ended, as far as I am concerned, with my rather bland and clearly unemotional first response on this thread. Peter responds: Gratuitous, yes; defensive, no. All I did was to point out that the anecdote was meant to inspire and (in my opinion) did nobody any harm. You're a researcher (from what I understand), and you tell me that society has been caused grievous harm, so I will wait for you to supply proof of such grievous harm and injury to society. Santosh (continued): So I ask you, why did you invest your time (not emotion, because I cannot tell) into this? Was it worth it? Or was it a waste of your time? Peter responds: Santosh, I might have wasted time, but it was well worth the emotion. It gave me a lot of grins and giggles. Santosh (continued): Are you open-minded enough to recognize that you are wrong about defending urban legends, even inspiring religious ones? Peter responds: You are implying that I am wrong. There is no right or wrong when you're merely explaining the motive behind sending out a chain letter. Here's something that you don't know about me: I routinely respond to chain letters when they contain information that may damage individuals or corporations, or create a false sense of vindication for a person's religious belief or ideology. I have done this for chainletters concerning Bill Gates (whom I dislike), Ted Kennedy (ditto) Donald Rumsfeld (like), Procter Gamble (agnostic), Einstein (agnostic), patriotic paintings on rocks (like), Neiman Marcus cookies, I love Jesus virus...and several others. Many months ago Cynthia sent out a chain letter to this group which contained falsehoods, so I promptly wrote her privately and explained that it was false. She was very thankful that I'd pointed it out to her, and I also told her about snopes.com and advised her to check it out. If I read one of her postings that could possibly be harmful, I will definitely notify her. In your quest for truth you simply seem to lose perspective of what really matters. Or perhaps your perspective is that every little thing matters. A couple of cases in point (I'm relying on memory here): Cynthia had a posting about what to do in the event of a tsunami, it contained a lot of useful advice. You proceeded to tear it apart. At the end of it all I don't think you really helped anyone, and I don't think Cynthia harmed any one. Ditto for your response to Mario's forward concerning AIDS needles. Look before you sit...no harm done. Hope that helps clarify. Peter
[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * June 16-17, 2005 * Monsoons are here...
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s JUNE 16-17, 2005 DATELINE: GOA / d8 Founded in 1994 e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ by Herman 888 888 d888 i 88b 888 888 d888 88b 888 Carneiro 88_88 | e88~-888 888 888 __888 888 --- / Y888 ' C888 888 888 888 Y888, 888 Cb 88_-~ 88_-888 888 888 88___/ 88_/ b Y88D http://www.goanet.org [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] In today's issue: The monsoons are here. Speculation over who's crossing over in politics. Goa's hospitals in the news -- Hospicio does a hip replacement, while Rane visits the GMC. Dual citizenship. A gruesome death in an road accident near the GMC. Looking at the late Frank Simoes' new edition of an earlier-published book. Much more. Read on. June 17, 2005 - The monsoons are here. Or so it seems. Friday morning was a wet day, and, for the first time, it rained or drizzled for parts of the day. A welcome relief. Temperatures are down too, and everyone seems in a better mood. But we'll need to wait and see how strong and consistent the monsoon season is this year. In recent years, Goa too has been facing extremities of climate -- with strong, stormy, heavy wet spells punctuated by long dry spells. Often this story doesn't emerge from bland rainfall figures. o Sunaparant, Konkani daily, speculates with another equation: 3 Congress + BJP = Willy government? o Out of power for ten days and there's trouble brewing in the BJP: Dhargalim MLA Babu Azgaonkar is inclined to quit the BJP, sources said. (Herald) o Goa Medical College to be refurbished soon. CM Rane made a surprise visit to the GMC on Thursday evening, and inspected every ward and department with medical superintendent Dr Rajan Kunkolienkar. (NT) o Hospicio hospital adds another feather to its cap; performs first-ever total hip replacement. Orthopaedic surgeons Dr Neil Barreto and Dr Sandeep Fowkar achieved this goal. (H) India today approved dual citizenship for its vast diaspora who migrated after January 26, 1950, when the country became a republic. Dual citizenship will not be extended to those who migrated to Pakistan or Bangladesh after January 26, 1950. It will be extended to all persons who meet these criteria, as long as their home-countries allow dual citizenship in some form, the government said. o Canacona chilly crop could get hit by late monsoons. (H) o Arvind Pinto focusses on Dadra and Nagar Heveli, 'the forgotten Portuguese enclave'. (H) o Murdered lady's sister held in Revora murder case. (GT) o Goa's Marine Police is floundering without assistance. Gomantak Times show the photo of the Marine Police jetty at Panjim. This force is struck by a shortage of sea-going boats and manpower. (GT) June 16, 2005 - o Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit to Goa postponed. (NT) o Information and Broadcasting Ministry team to visit Goa in July to discuss 36th International Film Festival of India. CM Rane is expected to call on teh Planning Commission to urge special funds for Goa to hold IFFI. Though the NDA government had agreed to sanction the fund through the Planning Commission specially for the IFFI, nothing had materialised. (NT) o Corporation of the City of Panjim to hire a private agency to recover house tax arrears, which have touched Rs 40 million.(NT) o Special unit of marine police has been opened, Governor Jamir says.(NT) o Coastal security plan awaiting Home Ministry nod, says Governor Jamir.H o Mickky Pacheco's Raj Bhavan visit raises eyebrows. (H) o Konkan Railway monsoon time-table implemented. Trains will run slower to cope with the monsoons. (H) o Congress-backed councillors oust Margao municipality chairperson Kamlini Painginkar. BJP's four-year-eight-month rule of the municipality finally ended on Wednesday with Painginkar ousted by 11-0 votes. Four BJP supporters abstained. (H) o Two kindergarten students of Ambaulim-Quepem were bitten by a rabid dog. (H) o No foul play in Croatian speaker's son's death in Goa, say police. The report says there was no trace of any drugs, alcohol or any poisonous substances, police said. Goa government promises vegetable cultivation drive. Agriculture Department has started distributing fruit trees grafts at a subsidised rate. Agri Director R G Joshi says they have a target for distributing 200,000 cashew grafts, 60,000 coconut saplings, 25,000 to 30,000 mango grafts and 10,000 grafts and seedlings of other fruit. Spices like jaiphal, kali miri (pepper), and kokum (binn'a),
Re: [Goanet]OFFTOPIC: Uganda, Church of England, and racism
On 17/06/05, Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBC World Service is reporting that the new Archbishop of York is a Uganda-born member, and the first Black to hold such an important post. What is significant is that this post is the second-most-important post in Church of England, after the slot in Cantebury. BBC says the archbishop was a critic of Idi Amin's government in the Uganda of the past. RESPONSE: He was appointed by our P.M., Tony Blair, from a short list! Did I hear on this forum that Church and Politics should not mix? 10.45am First black Church of England archbishop appointed Simon Jeffery and agencies Friday June 17, 2005 Dr John Sentamu A former Ugandan high court judge who fled the murderous regime of Idi Amin today became the first black archbishop in the Church of England. John Sentamu will move from Birmingham, where he was bishop, to York, where he takes up the second most senior clerical role in the church. His appointment - made by the prime minister, Tony Blair, from a shortlist submitted by church leaders - is expected to please the millions of Anglicans in Africa. .for the full text click on to the URL below:- http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1508768,00.html Cheers. Gabe Menezes. London England.
[Goanet]Masons today.
Always rich, usually older men, into a little bit of fun, to which they are entitled, and a much bigger bit of charity - very quietly, yes, they have come a long way over a thousand years: from a guild of craftsmen, to hired assassins, to Prime Ministers - socialist Attlee was the first 'taverner' to circumvent the Club's hold on privelege. Gwen and i should be lucky to be invited to membership! The Lodges in Bombay, Delhi, Calcutta and Madras are very impressive structures: Our Colonial Governors and the business elite managed their fiefs from around those bar rails, my dad often railed !eric. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]From around the GOANWORLD.
GOANS OF USA oo Los Angeles G.O.A. Please mark your calendars!!! GOA-DAY 2005 will be held on Sunday, August 21st at 5:00pm. A flier will be sent your way in a few days. Venue: Brothers of St. Patrick's Park - 7820 Bolsa Avenue, Midway City, CA 92655. Highlights of the event: 1) A Konglish (Konkani and English) tiatre (Play) written and directed by Antu Diniz. 2) Goan Idol - 3 Categories of performers. (Ages 4 to adults). You can get in touch with us if you or your child would like to do a performance at the event. Details to follow in a few days. 3) Delicious, home-cooked Goan dinner buffet. A flier will be sent your way in a few days with further details. This is just a heads-up so you can mark your calendars and prepare for a relaxed, fun-filled evening on August 21st. Looking forward to meeting all of you again. Have a great week ahead!! Ralph Figueiredo. President - Los Angeles G.O.A. http://www.goacom.com/goa-la [EMAIL PROTECTED] == New York Goans World Goa Day - New York New York Goans are celebrating World Goa Day on August 27th-Herewith the flier-please post this on Goanet and any other websites. Viva Goa! Hercules Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] == I do hope the above well laid out Goan event by the GOA -Los Angeles - will encourage other Goan Organizations world wide - to organise similar events. Let us have More of Goan Cultural events and let us be PROUD OF OUR GOAN HERITAGE VIVA GOA DAY ! rene barreto 2oth of August 2005 GOAN SOLIDARITY DAY === www.goaday.com == Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com
[Goanet]NEWS: Robberies Or Threats, Life Has To Go On, Says Pilar Priest Working In Jharkhand
Robberies Or Threats, Life Has To Go On, Says Pilar Priest In Jharkhand By Peter Raposo, SAR NEWS AGHARMA, Jharkhand (SAR NEWS) -- When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Thefts or threats, peace or violence, a young Catholic priest in Gumla Diocese in the northern Indian Jharkhand state is determined to carry on with his God-ordained mission to serve the poor. Muggings, armed robberies and threats, life in the mission goes on, says Father Paul Fernandes, 34, parish priest of Krist Jyoti Parish at Agharma in Gumla Diocese. On May 23 at 11p.m. a group of ten armed robbers threatened Father Fernandes, his colleagues and others in the parish at gunpoint and made off with Rs. 530,000 in cash and other valuables. This is not the first incident of an armed robbery in our parish or in the neigbouring parishes. Several of them have happened and there's no guarantee they won't happen again, Father Fernandes told SAR News, June 12. Describing the May 23 attack, Father Fernandes said that he had gone to bed early that night and Brother Tej Kumar Kindo, catechist John Lakra, high school computer teacher Sunil Kumar and others staying in the church premises had also retired early. One of our workers along with two others was sleeping in the mango orchard to guard it from robbers. It was around 11p.m. when 10 dacoits descended woke them up, tied them and asked them about those sleeping in the presbytery. After having learnt that only Bro. Kindo and I were there they broke open the gate and came directly to my room on the first floor. My room was open; they woke me up and demanded money at gunpoint. Then they took me to Kindo's room and realising that I was the head of the house, they brought me back to my room and asked me for money. They threatened to kill Kindo and the worker in the mangrove if I refused to part with the money. Fearing an attack, Father Fernandes gave them Rs. 18,000 that was meant for sponsoring children's free education, but the robbers rummaged through the cupboards and drawers in the priest's room and collected all they could lay their hands on. Then they told me they had information that we had around Rs 2.5 million and demanded that I hand over the amount. I denied...but then they asked for the keys of the house and opened all the cupboards. In one of the cupboards, they found a safe where we used to keep the money of the Catholic Co-operative Credit Society. In all, there was Rs. 515,000. They snatched it.and also took away a mobile phone, wristwatch, DTH receiver and even sacramental wine, seven bottles in all, said Father Fernandes. Soon, disturbed by the noise in the corridor, my catechist Lakra, who was sleeping in the Youth Centre building came out sensing something was wrong. Those guarding the gate with guns saw him and asked him to open the gate of the centre but he refused to do so and instead began screamed for help. The others too realised something was amiss and began shouting, Father Fernandes said. The robbers immediately took to their heels but not without the booty. Lakra then came out and rang the church bell and the people from the neighbouring villages gathered at the parish. However, it was too late, as the robbers had escaped into the forest under the cover of darkness. The police are yet to make any arrest in this connection. Since the last two years that I've been in this parish, around nine to ten parishes of both Gumla and the neighbouring Simdega Diocese have been robbed in a similar fashion, said Father Fernandes. Robberies are a daily affair in our region. Thefts of cattle are very common. Buses coming from Ranchi were looted at least five times since I've been here. Traveling in the night is simply impossible. No one travels after 8p.m. The diocesan authorities have instructed the priests not to venture out after 6p.m. due to the danger of armed robberies, the priest added. But for this intrepid Pilar missionary, living in such circumstances has become a way of life. It really doesn't look like a danger or threat for those living here. At times, we have to take patients in the middle of the night to the nearest hospital, which is about 10 km from our parish, he says. We are simply helpless. One cannot do anything about it. The police themselves are afraid of their lives. In fact, when we complained to the police on the night of the robbery in our parish, they refused to come as they were sleeping. The government does nothing about it. It is a sorry situation, laments Father Fernandes. But what can this one man do about it all? Our parish took the initiative and declared a 'bandh' (shutdown). Christians, tribals, Muslims and Hindus participated in it. The roads were blocked and inquiry demanded. But the police resorted to caning, said Father Fernandes. The local MLA, Enos Ekka, who came later at the scene, condemned the police action, took the injured to hospital and
[Goanet]The music of Warren Mendonca
The music of Goenkar Warren Mendonca of Auckland, NZ - check it out. www.soundclick.com/bands/2/blackstratblues_music.htm
Re: [Goanet]Re: Willie the casteist
On 17/06/05, Tom Carolina goanet@goanet.org wrote: Dear Mr. Menezes, I have been in the far east working for the power stations and last 15 years in engineering contracting. I don't and will never have casteist aspirations because that is not my nature. RESPONSE: Thanks for your clarification, it seems that there are some in Goa who think that Willy is definitely a castist. Especially if he ever did make the remark that was quoted by Ethel. I have met you Tom when I was living in Hong Kong. Your sister jacinta knows us. cheers. Gabe.
[Goanet]Chinese Fable
A Chinese Fable A water bearer in China had two large pots, each hung on the ends of a pole which he carried across his neck. One pot had a crack in it, while the other pot was perfect and always delivered a full portion of water. At the end of the long walk from the stream to the house, the cracked pot arrived only half full. For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water to his house. Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments, perfect for which it was made. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do. After 2 years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream... I am ashamed of myself, because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your house. The bearer ! said to the pot, Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of the path, but not on the other pot's side? That's because I have always known about your flaw, and I planted flower seeds on your side of the path. Every day while we walk back, you've watered them. For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate the table. Without you being just the way you are, there would not be this beauty to grace the house. Moral: Each of us has our own unique flaws. we're all cracked pots. But it's the cracks and flaws we each have that make our lives together so very interesting and rewarding. You must take each person for what they are, and look for the good in each one. For that reason I say.. Blessings to all my crackpot family friends here too. Cynthia _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Tiatr Child Actors: Today I Did it...
I always wanted to meet and congratulate the child artists of Konkani Stage. At first, I had in my mind just 3, then 5 but today i made it with 9. Today's Tiatr Margao ARGAM TUKA DHONIA By Tony Dias. 'Cash awards to 9 child actors and free cold drinks to all' The 4th show (Margao)was housefull and people had to go back home. The Child actors are: Shruti Naik Aliston Colaco Franky Oliviera Royston Noel Hazel Gonsalves Sonia Dias Victor Fernandes Anthony Chico Bladwin D'Silva (the youngest) more details to follow.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Frogs, camels and Frenchies
Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frogs, personification of ugliness, Mario? You sorely disappoint me. I love the things and never hesitate to kiss them without harbouring an ulterior motive of hoping/expecting them to metamorphose as a royal boy or girl. I eat them too, with a relish that easily belie aesthetic prejudice. And... pray ponder how you will hurt the poor Frenchies with your prejudice. Mario replies: Alfred, tsk, tsk, tsk! What's all this kissing of frogs rather than the fabled Scandivanian beauties that surround you. Your love of frogs doesn't seem to stop you from eating them. I hope you only eat the ones that don't turn into princesses. Perhaps the kisses make you hungry in more ways than one. To avoid my post from being rejected by the sharp-eyed Goanet moderators I will refrain from commenting on the Frenchies, whom we hard-core Americans don't like very much right now. If it makes you feel better I will replace frogs with camels, hoping there is no Goanetter out there who is making a habit of kissing this hapless four-legged creature that was designed by a committee.
RE: [Goanet]Re: Willie the casteist
Tom, Do you belong to the same caste as Dr. Willy? It is clear from your below mentioned posting that you are living your life on based on so-called past glories. It is not time to grow up? Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Carolina Sent: 17 June 2005 12:16 To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Re: Willie the casteist Dear Mr. Menezes, I have been in the far east working for the power stations and last 15 years in engineering contracting. I don't and will never have casteist aspirations because that is not my nature. I get along well with different nationalities and in the past when I was in Aldona was well known and popular. Medicine is in our family; My paternal and maternal grandparents, my father, three sibling and not only in Goa, Bombay, Portugal, Hong Kong, London, Australia and even Switzerland there are and have been doctors from the de Sousa's clan. I know Willie very well and helped him set up his 1st. Consulting room in Corte do Oiteiro, Boca de vaca in Panjim, during the 60's. I definitely refute the point that he is casteist but I seriously object to his treats of constantly trying to topple the Government. Thanks for your answer and hope to keep in touch through the net, Regards, Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong
[Goanet]Re: Third-party innuendo
Mario, Thanks for your maxima culpa. I was not seeking a complex reply but you clearly saw more in my post than I had intended. Cornel
Fwd: Re: [Goanet]Free Masons in Vatican
Dear Ms. Gwen Precila White, Thank you for your clarion call on the Vatican. None of the international news channels like the BBC or the CNN gave this breaking news nor did our enterprising channels in India like Aiz Tak and NDTV 24x7 mention a thing about Vatican being in masonry danger. When did this happen??? Was there an earthquake? I was in Vatican a few years ago and my rounds around the City as well as the entire Basilica of St Peter never gave a clue as to the defecive masonry, even atop the Dome. And I am in construction business here in Goa . It is a good thing that masons from the world over have volunteered to give their services free of charge. Is that not a wonderful news? What could we do without such sensible free working masons? I am sure the new Pope Benedict will be overwhelmed with joy and the world which believes in Christ will grow roots on their knees in thanksgiving. And Pope John Paul II will be rejoicing in heaven at this turn of events. I shall, on my part, will see if I can convince some of the guys working for me and around Goa, who call them master masons and command a good deal of wages/salary will volunteer for this selfless service to save the Vatican. Do let me know when the repairs and or modifications if envisaged to the Vatican itself will be completed. The re-opening of the Vatican City will, no doubt, be a joyous occasion. If my purse lets me, I shall not want to miss this great occasion. Do keep me posted and thank you for the concern. Thank you and God Bless Yours Sincerely, Sd/- Floriano Lobo Moira Goa- India. - Original Message - From: gwen white [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:16 PM Dear (Mogal) Goencars, On 14 June an article appeared in which he said that he was doing a research on Catholicism and came across infiltration of Masons in the Vatican. I would like to point out that Masons in the Vatican exists and is rife as of today. They are racist therefore there is no chance of an Asian or African becoming a Pope. Also Indian Cardinals do not know what Free Masonry is any way, if they do they do not know what the implications are.
[Goanet]OFFTOPIC: Uganda, Church of England, and racism
BBC World Service is reporting that the new Archbishop of York is a Uganda-born member, and the first Black to hold such an important post. What is significant is that this post is the second-most-important post in Church of England, after the slot in Cantebury. BBC says the archbishop was a critic of Idi Amin's government in the Uganda of the past. He has also criticised his Church as having a White elite that dominates the Church of England. Apparently, only 92 of Britains 11,000 clergy come from the ethnic minorities. .. Frederick (FN) Noronha | Freelance Journalist | Mobile +91 9822 122436 Tel +91.832.2409490| http://fn.swiki.net | http://www.bytesforall.net ..
Re: [Goanet]Road accidents kill near Dabolim Airport and in Vasco
Friends ! I do apologize for my earlier posts , I seem to be having problems with the computer I am using at the cyber cafe , or may be ...it is just my old age :- ) A few of my messages have slipped - without being edited. Sorry once again. -- Earlier , I made a post about the various accidents - that have occur ed in and around Vasco , but all we have done is publish these incidents - not ONE of us seems to be bothered to discuss or address these problems here on the GOAN forum. Many of us seem to have the attitude - of If it does not hurt me or my family - why should i bother ...i hope and pray that attitude does change ..in time. I also read a post - wherein we were told that Road layouts in Goa are designed by the people in Delhi , is that right ? if so , are we to wait to see more deaths - before the people from Delhi come and rectify the design of the round about in Vasco / Goa ? God bless our GOA. rene barreto Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]RE:Indigo a new Indian budget Airline?
Hey, Phillip, What do you know about the recent report that Dawood Ibrahim was a major investor in Jet Airways. Any truth to that? --- Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are probably right about a bust following the boom. In the U.S. (in the 80s) and in Europe (in the 90s) airline bubbles have been followed by busts. Asia may not be very different during this decade.
Re: [Goanet]In America, the crows stick to the garbage
Peter, I suspect that the majority shares my feelings, as I have not heard any outcry on this forum to halt the genocide in Sudan. It has been said that silence is consent and I guess you are as much guilty of it as I am. Based on this measure, the only difference between you and me that you were vocal in your support for the war in Iraq and I was opposed to it. However, with respect to Sudan, our mutual silence speaks volumes. As far as seeking profit and working for questionable governments, let us not apply double standards shall we? There are tens of thousands of Goans who work in countries that have regimes that continue to violate human rights. Just because you have the privilage to work in the US does not mean that you need to pass judgement on the economic choices made by others who seek to feed their families. We are all capitalists at heart. I also need not remind you that many in this and in previous US adminstrations had no issues working with Saddam and a variety of other regimes. If it is good for business, it is good - period. Marlon --- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /Marlon Menezes writes:/// Personally, I dont give a hoot that people in Iraq may have been suffering under Saddam's rule, just I do not really care about the the genocide in Sudan or the fact that women are being raped over there. [deletia] Evil is all relative. I am sure there are many of us (me included) who would not hesitate to legally work with the Saddam regime if we could profit from it. [deletia] Marlon, I really wish I didn't know this about you. Peter
[Goanet]KUDOS TO DR.TONY GOMES
I am so glad that Tony has received yet another award, one more to add to the so many laurels he has received during his glorious career. A cardiologist of great caliber, he is a researcher par excellence, and has written umpteen path-breaking papers and done pioneering research in the field of Cardiology, cardiac electrophysiology in particular. He is rightly rated among the best cardiologists of the world. His biography runs into several pages. Many may not know that besides being a scientist, Tony is also a writer, a poet, has a beautiful baritone voice and plays the guitar with verve and aplomb. Tony is also a humanist, a great lover of Goa, the place of his birth. I consider it as my privilege to be counted among his many admirers and friends. He could have given up on life after the death of his beautiful wife Marina, who passed away prematurely and whom he adored so much. She was the source of his inspiration ? he rightly acknowledges. But, against heavy odds, Tony showed us lesser mortals what it takes to overcome. Rising from the throes of depression, he seems to have gathered the pieces beneath the rubble of shattered dreams, to continue to scale to greater and greater heights. Even to this day Tony gives of his best to all and everywhere, and is sure to carry on in this way until the day when the Reaper with the Scythe will come with a call ? and a beautiful reward too! Congratulations to Tony and thanks my friend for continuing to be the source of inspiration that you have always been to me. A pale shadow of what you are, I confess that in a small way, I try to emulate the shining example that you have set before us all. Francisco (Dr. Francisco Colao, MD. Largo da Igraja do Esprito Santo, Margao. Goa. INDIA.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]Ringtone update 3
Recieved 7 fresh requests..(includes 3 request for Claudia- which I dont have) last night sent 5 but the entire backlog will be cleared tonite (including our Linobab) infact, i took his no. wrong as 00956 iso 00965 it failed twice last night i lost Rs.10. I also sent to TOny, Antonio, Cyril, Tony2,Cyril2, Pascoal etc but no acknowlegment rcvd yet. However these people have confirmed already: Luis, Domnic, Gloria, Jervis, Patrick, willmarco Plus there were 3 requests to repeat ( as they lost the one sent to them). Those asked me to sent both, I only sent one. Sorry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]New Indian Non judicial stamp paper
While the Telgi ---Indian Non Judicial stamp paper---case continues to make third page news item on the national dailies, Central Government seems to have awoken to the nuances of the fake India Non Judicial Stamp paper. Last week the Central Government made available a new fascimile of the Indian Non Judicial stamp paper of denomination Rs.20/- (Rupees twenty only) for the State of Goa. The salient features are a) green mast head is replaced by light blue brown shades b) each state will have its own Indian non judicial stamp paper viz Goa will have its own c) the name of the State viz Goa is written in English devanagiri Konkani and Hindi and a serial number theron d) the security mark is embossed in silver thereon and other water marks for security; e) the vendor needs to have the details of his name licence number thereon besides his signature of the purchaser on the front and not on the back side; f) the stamp paper has an exclusive serial number printed thereon Meanwhile the process of issuing stamp papers of other denominations viz; fifty, hundred, five hundred, thousand, and five thousand is underway. Licenced vendors are entitled for a two % commission by the Government. Presently the Rs 20/- stamp paper is the commonly used for affidavits power of attorney agreement of sale etc GODFREY J I GONSALVES BORDA MARGAO GOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ??
Carlos, The history shows that they were the best CM's of Goa. If ex-CM Parrikar was the best CM in Goa then why did Dr Willy took part to bring down the Parrikar's government? Can mention any historical facts to support your above statement so-called 'the best CM's of Goa'? I have disputes with Carlos' statements having neither any premises nor any true historical true facts. Please give us the true historical documented facts and NOT your personal sentiments. Just curious! Cip Cip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 June 2005 01:40 To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ?? Avelino, What Willy said about Congress may be right. Especially true, when the president of Goa Congress and CM are both non-catholics. Why did Congress not select a Catholic for one of these positions? Are Catholic votes taken for granted by Congress? It sure seems like. It appears to me, it is OK if Congress discriminates against Catholics, but it is not OK if BJP does it. Lets be fair and measure both these parites with the same yardstick. If Parrikar supports Willy for CM, then we can get the best of both worlds. The history shows that they were the best CM's of Goa. Regards, Carlos -Original Message- From: D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:00:11 +0300 Subject: RE: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ?? It seems, I may be wrong, that you have not followed what Willy said about Congress being more communal than BJP. In other words, BJP wants Willy to be CM by supporting NCP. By doing so, BJP will have a say in the day to day functioning of the government which is secondary to Parrikar's plan. The primary focus, as far as Parrikar is concerned, is to starve the BJP traitors, the infamous five, by keeping them away from juicy portfolios. Willy will behave like a good one in fresh saffron robes. Avelino Bastora/Kuwait ___ Cip Fernandes wrote: Carlos, Willy will be the next CM of Goa and he will be a good one Could you please justify your statement with true premises? Your statement appears to be based either on assumptions well known to you or logical inconsistency. Further, I will appreciate your description of so-called a good one. Personally, I do not have any dispute with either Carlos or Dr. Willy - my dispute is with Carlos' statement. Just curious! Cip ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16 June 2005 01:00 Vivian, Just watch. Willy will be the next CM of Goa and he will be a good one. Carlos Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe now that he has hit bottom, he will re-infvent himself and become a full-fledged Congressmen, or if spurned will then become a full fledged saffronite ? It is obvious that this person is not committed to any ideology or principles. Chameleons ! Lets see what unfolds in the next few days or hours.
[Goanet]Re:Airbus A380 for Kingfisher; Goa to London?
Rule is: No domestic airline can start international route unless it is atleast five years old in the domestic field. So, Kingfisher can only start after 4years and 10 months? May b A380 order takes 5 years to deliver.. Thu Jun 16 13:05:21 2005 http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jun/16mallya.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: *** Goanet Reader -- Goan society, its future direction...
First off all we have got into a basket of rotten eggs since 61. Can we get out of it? Many Goans do not want to accept the truth! B. Colaco Whether it is single point or multipoint, we both seem to have a vested interest in Goa's problem set, right? But the push may be coming from polar opposite directions! And yet, oddly enough, the end result will probably be equally infructuous! How about that?! Regards.
Re: [Goanet]Malaria AIDS, Africa ... and Goa
Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: United Nations Radio in New York is talking about malaria and Africa's attempt to fight the disease. There's some good news from there, and apparently there are chances of attaining some targets under the Roll-Back Malaria Programme. One might be wrong, but in Goa, the issue of malaria seems to have gone off the radar of public concern. Even the enthusiasm that was visible in the early and mid 'nineties seems to have vanished. Can we afford to be complacent over this? FN BTW June 16 is the day of the African Child. Large numbers die of malaria each year, and many get orphaned by AIDS. Mario responds: I would like to know whether DDT is being used in Africa and India to combat malaria. I have seen reports that millions have died from the resurgence of malaria, mostly in poor tropical countries, since DDT was banned. What can one say about AIDS, one of the deadliest scourges in history? Unlike malaria, AIDS can be avoided by avoiding risky behavior, and more needs to be done to educate people in Africa and elsewhere about why and how they should do this. Once a person is infected the problem becomes much harder and more expensive to control and leads to a slow and agonizing death.
Re: [Goanet]Road accidents kill near Dabolim Airport and in Vasco
What is the purpose of making such posts ? Is it for the people of Goa to be kept informed or for them to participate - and address the said problems. If does relate to me or my family , why shoudl I botehr - is the attitude many of us have. A question I have asked - so often on this forum ...do we have a Vascokars citizen Bureau ? OR a vACOKAR'S FORUM ? IT is a SHAME - to me it looks many of us on this forum do not care ... ? rene barreto --- GOACAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED, The time is come for the people of Goa to ORGANISE not AGONISE !! - -- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- - Vasco?s vicious circle continues to kill by Neena Dayal Accidents in the last 2 months in Vasco April - May 11 - minor 10 - serious 05 - fatal 07 - deaths -- Accidents in the last 2 months in Mormugao April - May 01 - minor 02 - serious 01 - fatal 01 - dead --- The statistics speak for themselves and unless someone wakes up in the Vasco administration the statistics will keep on increasing. While road accidents are frequent and on the rise in Goa because of the lack of control by drivers and no police patrolling, there is one spot in Goa ? near Dabolim Airport which has been witnessing an increasing number of fatalities during the last one year. Yes, Dabolim Airport is the first impression of Goa for many who arrive daily in the hope of having a great holiday and some quality time here. The cross roads in front of the airport form one of the most important traffic junctions of Goa. Yet the glaring reality of the traffic confusion at this intersection, resulting in accidents on a daily basis has not stirred any administrative action so far. Many-a-lives have been lost, but no concrete plan to regulate the traffic on this junction, which also is a part of the ambitious four lane highway project, has emerged. According to Namrata Kashyap, town planner and successful landscape architect, ?the reason for the increasing number of fatalities is that this graded intersection (near Dabolim circle) is presently being manned by a US-based system of traffic regulation called the Stop-Sign system. This arrangement is evidently wrong according to the book on Traffic Engineering and Transport Planning by L R Kadiyali, which is considered a bible among all town planners and transport engineers. It clearly says that ?Stop signs should not be used on roadways or expressways, for speed control or at signalized intersections.? (Chapter 13 Traffic signs. Section 13.8 Mandatory signs). Investigations by Herald showed that many of these signs put up at Dabolim Circle are extremely confusing to the driver. This reporter spoke to Sandip Surlekar, deputy Town Planner, Vasco, who could not decipher the exact connotation of the signs (a red bordered triangular sign with six red dots on white background) placed at this important junction. What is causing this confusion is that Indians have been instinctively following primarily British system of traffic- roundabouts or traffic-islands for traffic regulation at intersections for a long time now. And it is this confusion of a new system that is defectively implemented which is causing considerable confusion among poorly literate transport drivers and drivers of private vehicles. An examination of the spot showed that many signs were improperly placed, not easily understood and of a different signage which was causing confusion among drives. Agrees Mr Afonso, assistant director transport, Vasco, ?signs should be placed much ahead of the junction. New fellows are always speeding?, clearly revealing complete apathy and disinterest on the part of administration to deal with the problem. ?? Says SP Traffic Mr. Deshpande, ?There is a dearth of qualified Transport Planners in Goa. The road under question has been constructed by Border Road Organization (BRO), under the guidance of National Highway Authority of India (NHAI). There are no doubts about their quality of construction. But they build such important intersections with local guidance and according to the local requirements, as they are ill-equipped in
[Goanet]Re: Official Language Act - By Siddesh B. Vernekar, Karwar.
The Konkani Language has not still recieved its proper status even after 18 years after being declared a state. Still te Goans (Marathi minded or MGP-minded) think that Marathi is their language, this is really foolish, if so, then the Goans shold also try to learn Kannada, Tamil, Telegu, Malyalam etc ... as these are also the languages of the different sates and it is not wrong to just hate a language because it is not viable to read and write. Since now-a-days most of the shops in Goa are owned or run by South-Indians who prefer to write the names of their shops in their language because they really have pride for their language and English for the sake of Goans since they don't know what actually Goans read and write. So, this is a very sorry state of the Konkani language as still now the Official Language Act is not implemented which is a real shame on all the previous MGP, Congress, UGDO and BJP governments. Since if a government cannot implement the Official language Act properly then how do we expect that any work will be made on the basis of language which is still seen in Goa as Marathi in case of Hindus, Roman Konkani in case of Catholics, Kannada in case of ghatis of the Monte Hill of Margao (this refers to Digamber Kamat's vote bank), so when will Konkani be used which is the only official language of Goa. If the Official Language Act is implemented than all the shop-keepers all over the state wil have to compulsorily write the names in Konkani first and then English if required. Since in our place Karwar where Konkani and Marathi co-exist now-a-days all the shops have to compulsorily write their name in Kannada and English bot other than these languages nothing is written, so why can't Goa follow the same procedure. So, I being from Karnataka expect that the susegad Goans will wake up from their long 18 years sleep (especially Goa Hit Rakhan Manch) and force the government (once it is formed) to implement the Official Language Act. Comments: Dear Mr. Vernekar, I commend you for your thoughts and your advice to us Goans. Yes, the hope is always there that when a new government is formed in Goa, it will at least wipe off the dust which is settled on the Official Language Act of Goa. But unfortunately, we happen to vote in governments whose chief ministers are the ones who will sprinkle more dust on this Act as well as on Konkani. Take for instance Manohar Parrikar. Though Konkani is his mother tongue, his majority voters are marathi lovers. Naturally he will go for the vote bank rather than his language. Take Pratapsing Raoji Rane who is now the new Chief Minister and was the Chief Minister who installed the Language Act. He is himself a Maratha and love Marathi. He will not raise a finger to do anything for Konkani. Many people consider him a worst traitor unto Konkani. And all the others who elect him as Chief Minister have salt where there should be love for one's mother tongue. So how can Konkani come up? Besides our Goan parents want their kids to study in only English so they can make it big in the Western countries. What can Konkani give?? Never mind if it is the mother's tongue. Let the mother use it in the kitchen. Konkani language will never surface if the existing political parties take their turn to rule Goa in the next hundred years or more. The story is the same. However I shall like to bring to your kind attention that the newly formed Goa Su-Raj Party has this to say in its 'Road Map' which will be its committment to Goa and Goans and which is to be released shortly. Thanking you for your concern, being a Kannadiga notwithstanding. Floriano Lobo goasuraj OFFICIAL LANGUAGE: Konkani shall be the sole Official Language of Goa. Official correspondence shall be in Konkani (Romi Nagri), Hindi English. The Party will keep an open mind on standardization of the script for Konkani and encourage a proper debate on the subject and strive to exclude emotions in place of pragmatism. Maximum Governmental funding will be assured for the development of Konkani through audio-visual, print, cultural and other mediums. As far as Marathi language is concerned, it has the backing of a large State such as Maharashtra where, though there is a sizable population of Konkani speakers in that State, no recognition has been forthcoming, unlike in the State of Karnataka. This Party proposes that, in case the Marathi protagonists in Goa are in a position to obtain in Maharashtra for the Konkani speaking people the same rights that they want in Goa for Marathi speaking people, this party will fully back their efforts for equal status for Marathi in Goa.
[Goanet]Re: Goan Cardiologist Among the Best of the Best
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J. Anthony Gomes, M.D., a Professor of Cardiology at the Mount Sinai Medical Center, New York City, has earned the rare distinction of being named one of New York's best physicians Dr. Gomes has earned that distinction before---some years ago, either Newsweek Magazine or New York Magazine conducted an annual poll that put him right at the top. In one instance, he was the only electrocardiologist mentioned! May I also say that those of us who live in New York had discovered this modest man's true worth even before the magazines did. That is why I asked him to be my cardiologist many years ago, and though more recently he found me a specialist who had an office much closer to my home, I still think of Tony Gomes as one reason why I find myself in such good health today. Besides the more than 200 medical papers he has to his credit, his personal passion is writing, and he writes eloquently and exultantly about Goa. A truly remarkable man. Regards, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
[Goanet]Re: Willie the casteist
Dear Mr. Menezes, I have been in the far east working for the power stations and last 15 years in engineering contracting. I don't and will never have casteist aspirations because that is not my nature. I get along well with different nationalities and in the past when I was in Aldona was well known and popular. Medicine is in our family; My paternal and maternal grandparents, my father, three sibling and not only in Goa, Bombay, Portugal, Hong Kong, London, Australia and even Switzerland there are and have been doctors from the de Sousa's clan. I know Willie very well and helped him set up his 1st. Consulting room in Corte do Oiteiro, Boca de vaca in Panjim, during the 60's. I definitely refute the point that he is casteist but I seriously object to his treats of constantly trying to topple the Government. Thanks for your answer and hope to keep in touch through the net, Regards, Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong
[Goanet]Re: Spare us this Rogue' gallery
As usual, Ethel has penned her incisive thoughts well.Is the Dotor the Wiley Coyote among the Road Runners...or just Minnie of the Mickky mouse? HEART 2 HEART - Herald - June 12 BY ETHEL DA COSTA Dear Dr Wile Willy, Do you really want to go down as a rogue in Goa's political history? Do you really think it's worth all that fuss playing Minnie Mouse in this unholy Walt Disney disaster? Viva Goa [ It is almost Sao Joao time!] Miguel
[Goanet]RE:Indigo a new Indian budget Airline?
This is absolutely nuts. Are we seeing another dot com like craze before a bust? I cannot imagine India's current or proposed aviation infrastructure will be able to handle such a rapid rise in aircraft load.[Marlon Menezes, June 16] You are probably right about a bust following the boom. In the U.S. (in the 80s) and in Europe (in the 90s) airline bubbles have been followed by busts. Asia may not be very different during this decade. It is also true that everybody does complain about India's pathetic aviation infrastructure. But maybe once Mumbai and Delhi are upgraded and the Hyderabad and Bangalore airports come on stream -- all by 2010 at the latest if all goes well -- things may begin to look different. Until then I for one am rooting wildly for the low cost carriers to flood the Indian skies. You see, that may be the only way to get the Navy to budge at Dabolim. The Air Force is showing flexibility in Pune extending watch hours by 4 hours a day so I dont see what is holding the Navy back here in Goa! The Navy mindset may be as armourplated as its ships! Besides, a big part of the aviation bottleneck in India may be due to the military which controls 25 airports including Delhi where one runway is reserved for the Air Force and there are severe air space restrictions. There seems to be a persistent blindspot in aviation circles including the media regarding this point. An urgent highlevel review and prudent implementation may result in huge relief at airports in a single stroke! Btw, arent you the guy who was pushing for maglev trains in Goa not so long ago? Cheers.
[Goanet]FRIDAY BALCAO:Community involvement in tackling malaria in Goa.
-- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ -- Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 24th June from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No. 11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa Ph. 2252660 TOPIC: Community involvement in tackling malaria other vector borne disease in Goa SPEAKER: Dr. Dipak Kabadi Dy. Director (NVBDCP) Directorate of Health Services We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins - Don't miss out on the discussion. Get the BALCAO Synopsis monthly for Rs.100/- Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! -- The FRIDAY BALCAO BOOKLET is available for RS.70/- only Buy your personal copy and gift one to your relatives, neighbours and friends. The information handbook that is a must in every Goan home. -- === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy ===
Re: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ??
not at all Willy will be CM if he become CM again he have to rush to out of state if Rane come Down then President rules are very best for our Goan State and it will be Forever President rules . Stephen Muscat --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avelino, What Willy said about Congress may be right. Especially true, when the president of Goa Congress and CM are both non-catholics. Why did Congress not select a Catholic for one of these positions? Are Catholic votes taken for granted by Congress? It sure seems like. It appears to me, it is OK if Congress discriminates against Catholics, but it is not OK if BJP does it. Lets be fair and measure both these parites with the same yardstick. If Parrikar supports Willy for CM, then we can get the best of both worlds. The history shows that they were the best CM's of Goa. Regards, Carlos -Original Message- From: D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:00:11 +0300 Subject: RE: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ?? It seems, I may be wrong, that you have not followed what Willy said about Congress being more communal than BJP. In other words, BJP wants Willy to be CM by supporting NCP. By doing so, BJP will have a say in the day to day functioning of the government which is secondary to Parrikar's plan. The primary focus, as far as Parrikar is concerned, is to starve the BJP traitors, the infamous five, by keeping them away from juicy portfolios. Willy will behave like a good one in fresh saffron robes. Avelino Bastora/Kuwait ___ Cip Fernandes wrote: Carlos, Willy will be the next CM of Goa and he will be a good one Could you please justify your statement with true premises? Your statement appears to be based either on assumptions well known to you or logical inconsistency. Further, I will appreciate your description of so-called a good one. Personally, I do not have any dispute with either Carlos or Dr. Willy - my dispute is with Carlos' statement. Just curious! Cip ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16 June 2005 01:00 Vivian, Just watch. Willy will be the next CM of Goa and he will be a good one. Carlos Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe now that he has hit bottom, he will re-infvent himself and become a full-fledged Congressmen, or if spurned will then become a full fledged saffronite ? It is obvious that this person is not committed to any ideology or principles. Chameleons ! Lets see what unfolds in the next few days or hours. Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com
[Goanet]OFFTOPIC: La Bamba...
Did you know? La Bamba, the 1958 Ritchie Valens version of which sold over a million copies, is a traditional 14th century song. The tune was made popular in Mexico in the 1800s by African slaves singing about their village of Mamamba. http://worldspaceasia.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showChannelStorycid=5 .. Frederick (FN) Noronha | Freelance Journalist | Mobile +91 9822 122436 Tel +91.832.2409490| http://fn.swiki.net | http://www.bytesforall.net ..
