*** Goanet News Bytes * Apr 11, 2006 * Dempo, Salgaocar join hands to launch major new trans-shipper for iron ore
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[Goanet] Famous East African goan hockey players
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hi Cornel, Francis n Gabe ! In addition to Edgar and Egbert, do not forget Alou Mendoca who was once rated as the world's best left-outer, goal-keeper Saude George and captian - Tony Vaz who later made a name for himself by occasionally managing Kenya's world famous - middle -distance runner- Kipchoge Keino on his world trips. Then there was another duo in brothers- Hilary and Leo Fernandes;how-ever, do also bear in mind that many goans in East Africa could not represent Kenya,Uganda and Tanzania as they were non-citizens. A good example was Nairobi Sikh Union's reserve goal-keeper- the late Ivo Colaco. Sikh Union's main goal-keeper- Jack Simonian was also Kenya's number one goal-keeper and at one time- one of the best in the world. Jack was also famous as a motor rally safari driver. In Tanzania, we had Alban Fernandes and the late Armand Chic Saldanha - both of whom represented East Africa . Alban also represented East Africa in cricket and Chic played cricket for Tanzania. Other notable players in Tanzania were goal--keepers - Gangy Almeida and Auggie Fernandes and Gangy's brother - Fenelon - all great soccer players in their own right. They are all in Canada. In addition to five cricket players on the national team - including captain and vice-captain - Peter and Charlie DeSouza and all-rounder- Lawrence Fernandes, Uganda has also produced some great hockey players. Unfortunately, the only name that comes to my mind is that of goal-keeper- Roger Colaco and Xenon DeSouza- both also in Canada. PLease keep the ball rolling. rgds. Tony Barros. Union, New Jersey __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Query about Seoul...
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hi John, Please note your earlier message was posted and did appear on Goanet dated March 23/06. Please see: http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2006-March/040395.html Talking of Seoul, Korea visit any of the seven, Ganga Restaurants in Seoul for some authentic Goan food: http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=1784 Thank you - Bosco Goanet Admin http://www.goanet.org From: john desa johndesa at yahoo.com Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 08:31:56 GMT+05:30 To: fred at bytesforall.org CC: john desa johndesa at yahoo.com, John desa desa at qp.com.qa Subject: assistance Hello Fred, How are you and family. We are doing fine over here in Qatar. Summer started and the heat is on. Need a favour. A Goa friend is moving to Seoul from Qatar. I posted on Goanet the following, however it did not appear. Appreciate, if you could post below on Goanet on my behalf. A Goan Friend is moving to Seoul in 2 weeks. Are there any Goanetters/Goans in Seoul. Two years ago I read a posting by a Goan Priest based in Seoul. Appreciate any Goan contacts in Seoul. Regards, John Desa Cortalim/Qatar johndesa at yahoo.com Thanks and Regards, John _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] JUDAS DID NOT BETRAY JESUS
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Thought of sharing this information . Monday, April 10, 2006 Jesus Christ! The television connection at home was down over the weekend, as were a few other electronic items, which made life very very different. I desist from saying 'difficult', for this is how things were once upon a time not so long ago, before technology carpet-bombed our homes, and minds. Not an avid TV watcher, except for the late-night, male-specific zombie act with the remote control, I wasn't too bothered. But on learning that National Geographic was telecasting its documentary on the Gospel of Judas on Sunday night, I decided to have myself invited for drinks by a friend, and thus ended up catching the rivetting drama. This piece had been simmering since the news of the Gospel of Judas broke on Thursday-Friday, and although my favourite Sunday columnist Vir Sanghvi has quite taken the wind out of the sails I was planning to use, let me share my thoughts on the matter. There's a lot one can dislike about the West, but at the same time there's much more one can like about it. Conversely, there's such a lot one can love about India, and at the same time there's so much one can dislike about it. Without doubt, for me the whole Gospel of Judas episode reaffirms my belief in the liberal nature of Western civilisation. Make no mistake, the latest Gospel strikes at the very core of Christiandom as we know it. Yet, there are no protests, no opposition, no cries of 'Christianity in danger' or any such thing. It's possible that many among the experts who worked on authenticating the gospel were practicing/believing Christians. Yet, when it came to lending science's cachet to the documents, there was no holding back. Has the religion weakened one bit? On the contrary, I think the faith has gained from the whole episode. Sure, everyone knows how organised religions work, so there's no surprise at how the gospel was sought to be suppressed in the early days of Christianity. Suppression of inconvenient texts, opinions, after all, is the stape of all faiths. We see it all the time around us. I maybe wrong, but for the life of me I cannot imagine such a scenario in India, like new evidence presenting our epics in a new light and the country going about its usual business. Once upon a time, maybe, but now? No way. We were the original liberal civilisation, yet today we have let dogma take over and stultify everything. Before you start throwing stones, abuse etc my way, let me add that my faith is firm, and needs no certification or affirmation from a bunch of lunatics. While I was mulling over the Gospel of Judas, another news report in a morninger today caught my eye. That was about the central government readying to throw the book at artist M F Husain for offending sentiments with some of his paintings. Regular readers of this blog know my views on that artificial controversy so I will not waste time repeating it. But the contrast between the two cultures has never been starker in my mind than when I read this report. What struck me the most as I read about and watched the Judas gospel was the language that was attributed to Jesus Christ: '...You will sacrifice the man that clothes me...' Jesus is said to have told Judas. For us in India, this is familiar language, and harks back to the Vedanta and so many of our mystics who deride the physical body as an impediment after realising their self. I will not get into the argument whether Jesus visited India and picked up eastern spirituality, as suggested by a school of thought, but restrict myself to observing that the land from which such liberalism sprung seems to have lost its course. Which is the real tragedy. so believes Saisuresh Sivaswamy _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Kuwait: Konkani Mass in Ahmadi
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Kuwait: Konkani Mass in Ahmadi Rev. Fr. Melvin Pinto, Parish priest of Kuwait Cathedral, who initiated Konkani mass in Salmiya Chapel a year ago, now has made the announcement of starting Konkani mass in Our Lady of Arabia Church - Ahmadi starting from 21st April 2006 (Friday) at 5:00 pm. - Peter Castelino, Ahmadi, Kuwait (Source: Bellevision.com) www.catholic-church.org/kuwait/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: NRI Goans - Kuwait
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- I agree with the broad idea of Anthony. I hope genuine leader with vision, ability and capacity will take a lead in the direction. Of course modelities have to be worked out, all the minor details as expressed by Anthony may not be feasible - however transparency of the cell and gaining trust of the goan community is the key to success of the would be 'goenkarancho sonngott cell. However, his idea of having a Goan cell, willing to help another Goan or community in need is realistic , positive and possible. THIS IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR. There are many goans, who are rich, who are in high and influential positions in Kuwait. There are also those who are not rich or influential in terms of money but surely rich in character and thought and willilng to help in their own capacities. We need to blend the two and form a group or bring together the existing loose groups and synergize. It's difficult to keep out some who will be Judas though. What is needed is a common feeling of brotherhood, which is unfortunately rare to find. If we goans want to protect ourselves, our children and our future generations to come from the onslaught of 'others', all goans are duty bound to forget their egos, pride for greater good of goans - this is hard to do, but surely not impossible. There are two or more ways how this group can categorize it strategy of achieving its goals :- 1. Self help ( help within Kuwait) 2. Govt. help ( help from goa /india govt - either through Indian Embassay or through a goa govt. dept for NRG) 3. Others. I would like to highlight some of the things in category 1 :- 'Self Help We can achieve this to a great extent. We can or can't ? eg. a) Office Jobs : there are many goans who are looking out for job either because they have lost their current job or because they have come on visit visa etc etc.. There are many goans who know of possible vacancies, or whose office can employ this jobless goans. This goan cell can coordinate this. people who need job vacancis can register here, and people who have jobs can advise this cell etc.. b. Maids : Many goans working in offices etc need 'maids/helpers' as we call them to help either cooking or cleaning house or taking care of children/baby sitting or all the above etc etc. - There are/maybe goan maids who looking for full time jobs, or part time jobs or temporary jobs etc. - There are/maybe many goan who need a maid either part time, full time or temporary or even permanent. again this office can help. modalities of salary, leave, timings etc can be mutually agreed , safety and security of both become better. there are difficulties, but can be sorted out.. can't it be done ? c. Monetary help: At times a goan may need some money to borrow temporarily/loan as he suddenly has to go to goa/india on emergency ? if there is a fund - it can be utilized. (of course we have to work on how best this can be done considering recovery at times). At times there maybe a goan who cannot afford a air ticket back to goa. this person maybe leaving without a job or in hardship etc... there are/maybe goans who can donate for this GOAN FUND voluntary donation ought and can be encouraged. d. Accomodation: Maybe a goan who come fresh or even lives here may need temporary/short term accomodation : If anyone tell this cell about his desire or availablity . this cell can help coordinate. e. Transport : Many goans need transport to go to work and they go by pvt transports provided by transport companies, or 'others'. There are many goans who provide transport in their own pvt cars etc.. this can be mutually beneficial . this cell can coordinate. f. Training : Maybe a goan needs some help/suggestions in his current job.. maybe he/she needs some training .. again this cell can advise or help coordinate .. the above 6 things can be easily achieved by goan community living here without any significant support from Govt. RIGHT ? Regarding point no. 2 : Agenda as expressed and discussed at recently held meeting of NRG (goa govt delegation to kuwait) can be dealt with the govt . This is slow process, and may take long and great efforts.. this too can be persued simultaneously with the govt and kuwait embassy etc. Some of the important and highlights relating to govt actions are i) regarding recognition of goa university degrees ii) re ECNR iii) re air fares/ frequency of flights iv) re tax on NRG deposits v) re Higher eEducational opportunities for NRG children in india vi) re Custom duty upon arrival vii) etc..
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpable homicide
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be that as it may, I am a firm advocate of the death penalty. Not because I believe in retributive justice or that I believe the death penalty is a deterrent. No, it is simply because I want these people to know that their lives are as insignificant as they deemed others to be. Elisabeth, I guess we could take these people down to the stadium and shoot them, just like in the good ol' days. Lots of entertainment value there. But seriously, I would like to know what your opinion on harvesting their organs would be. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] BABUSH MONSERRATE TO TAKE OVER REINS OF GPCC
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- When i read your mail questioning Bonefacio as to where he was, in regard to Tony wanting to stand for political office and why he can't help a honest person .!! something on those lines, i wondered whether you were a actor before. 1. You say Why should we expect others to set things right for us BUT Neither you want to set an example to start with. 2. You had assured to send my mail accross and wanted that my mail should be in word format 3. You come up with excuse stating that you cannot send the mail as you do not have his contacts. 4. Fred gave you a suggestion as to where to find his contacts 5. Your reply to my mail on 9th April is totally different and i must say there are 4 Mario's. Nonetheless, the last para of your mail talks about, local vendor, bees , honey vinegar , I don't want a cocktail mail , to the point and precise as you don't like sermao, if you canno't send it accross , then why such a hue and cry about this article, if you feel that we have to set things right by ourselves and not by others , you should set the example first. If you cannot contribute anything positive on this article would be better if you could focus on setting matters right by yourself where needed. Sunil _ STILL SINGLE? Get married through MSN Matrimony. Join now for FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/msn/matrimonials.php _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Dabolim and Mopa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- --- gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Anthony, Im glad you posted the piece below. Because Alemao is not bothered about Dabolim or you and me, or how people would go to the Margao rly station. He is bothered about the taxi drivers of South Goa, who are his vote banks in the next local elections. Let me put things into perspective, and illustrate my point about the local politicians. For the past 40 years, there is a mafia of 10 black and yellow taxis running between Margao and Colva, Gilbert, 1. 10 black and yellow taxis - even if there represent a vote bank, how big a vote bank could 10 represent? 2. What about the argument that Dabolim can accomodate all the civilian flights with the present passenger load, whether or not the Navy vacates Dabolim (as it should). That argument against Mopa does not rely on vote banks, even if the MP is not making it. i.e. there is a legitimate argument made by some that Dabolim can accomodate the passenger load (now and in the future) without the need for Mopa and without regard to vote bank politics. Regards, George _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- - Marlon Menezes writes: Perhaps, India needs to get liberated as well. Failing that, perhaps, Goa Independence seekers like Gabriel F and Bernardo Colaco could form a grand alliance with regime change experts like Mario Guava and jointly push for a unified platform under the Goan Independence Clown Party. Mario responds: Sadly, Marlon Menezes seems to confuse childish sarcasm with intelligent commentary, and succeeds only in polluting cyber-space and embarrassing himself. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Konknni in Kannada script in Karnataka Catholic schhols from June 2006
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Daijiworld News Network - Mangalore (GA) - Mangalore, Apr 11: The Karnataka Konkani Sahitya Academy captained ably by Eric Ozario has done marvels in the last one year. But one of its dreams which is yet to be realized is of teaching Konkani in schools. This dream is all set to be realized from the coming scholastic year. Though the government has extended its support to introduce Konkani as optional language in schools, how far it will keep up its word is yet to be seen. But even if the government backtracks from its decision, the academy will never. The academy has come forward to conduct 40 hours of Konkani classes outside the regular school curriculam. The academy will shoulder the entire responsibility such as payment to the teachers, stipend to the students who attend these classes etc. The Konkani classes will be introduced on trial basis in 30 schools spread across 3 coastal districts of Uttar Kannada, Udupi and Dakshina Kannada. The Konkani Campaign Committee (Konkani Prachar Samiti) led by academy president Eric Ozario met Bishop Aloysius Paul D'Souza of Mangalore to explain him about this project and get his support for this cause. Speaking on the occasion Bishop said Konkani is our mother tongue and in our diocese over 4 lac people speak Konkani. All our religious ceremonies are held in Konkani. So it is indeed a great pleasure to know that Konkani will be introduced in schools shortly. I extend my support to this wonderful cause. Academy president Eric then made a request to the Bishop to make an official announcement in this regard. Following this, the committee met Catholic Board secretary Fr Wilson D'Souza who willingly said that he would extend all possible help and support to this project. Other than Eric Ozario, academy registrar Duggappa Kajekar, Dr Edward L Nazareth, Louis Pinto, Vincent Alva, Stany Alvares, Narayan Kharvi, Vitori Karkala, Irene Rebello, Stevan Quadros Permude, Charanraj and Aloysius D'Souza were also present on the occasion. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Cultural communalism in Goa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Santosh, A very valid and perceptive point has been raised by you. My posing of the question, stated a fact as it exists today. A separate and unequal society. When I state unequal, I am referring to their economic status, their political rights, their social status, etc. The pressing question facing Goans today is a) is assimilation possible and b) is that what Goans want?. If we've learnt the lessons of history, we know that Rome was destroyed by marauding Visigoths. We know that mass migrations of people ultimately displace the indigenous populations, as in Australia. We know that we cannot impose someone else's values onto another society with completely different values. America is learning a costly lesson even as it tries to inject democracy onto a civilisation that is totally unfamiliar with its concepts. So when we speak of assimilation, let is tread softly. When we speak of wanting to assimilate, let us examine what the Goan on the street wants and all that it will entail in terms of economic and social costs. Do we have a plan? Do we have the resources? Elisabeth - --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- This framing of the question of separate and unequal society living and expanding in Goa appears awfully close to toying with an idea that is even worse than the old racist compromise of separate but equal. The question should be: How do we promote equality and social integration in Goa? How do we put an end to segregation along communal, casteist, regional and socioeconomic lines? Cheers, Santosh Elisabeth Carvalho elisabeth_car at yahoo.com wrote: This then is the quandary. How do we resolve the issue of a separate and unequal society living and expanding in Goa? Yes, there is a frisson in Goa, one that will exploited by politicians, one that will be ignited by the most inane of incidents and one that will explode like puerile vomit in the very midst of our serenity. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RKN, There is an emotional need among some common people to put this other group of common people in their place, at least in their own eyes. This old emotional need has now become a political and ideological movement. It is like the common bully acting out against the common nerd in the real world. In such a world language and behavior have no bar. Mario clarifies: Regular Goanetters will surely recognize the comments above as an excellent example of the pot calling the kettle black. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- --- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when has the common man made it his business to help put agnostics, scientists, philosophers and intelligent guys in their place? :-) Mario responds: I have no intentions of putting anyone is any place, certainly not the superior intellects that migrate towards agnosticism, science and philosophy:-)) I simply respond to what I see written and asserted that I may agree or disagree with, hopefully with facts and opinions of my own. Isn't that what a public forum is for? And isn't light always accompanied by some heat? :-)) But to your question Radha, which I'm sure was academic, I think it was since November, 2004, when Big Tony got me riled up about something that has since been relegated to off topic status:-)) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Ordinance on Road Discipline, Need of the HOUR!
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hello Goanetters, NGOs and concerned individuals, I hereby humbly implore the CM and the Govt. of Goa as a whole, to promulgate an 'Ordinance' if required, to mange the havoc and mindless death on Goa's Roads, and bring about sanity, with immediate effect. The Govts in India, at the Centre and in the States have always 'ruled' or tried to Rule, by Ordinance, as the same is allowed under the Indian Constitution. I feel that sometimes these Ondinances have been promulgated for non urgent, party politics and other not so useful purposes. The most recent case being that related to Planning in Goa! This Ordinance was so absurd that the people decided to stir and the Govt. had to retreat! So many people are dying, getting injured and even maimed on Goa's Roads that I feel that an Ordinance needs to be promulgated to remove all the loopholes if any, in the existing law, and effect compliance, at all times, by all drivers, all pedestrians, and by the Authorites like the Traffic Police and the Road Construction people, and above all the RTO. This Govt. Dept. called RTO is in a shambles, and in a laissez faire mood 24/7, and is totally incompetent, as also their advisers. All in this RTO, from top to bottom, should be sacked fortwith and a wholly new entity should be created, and execution and compliance should be sought in a war like manner. The war on this front must be won, before more and more of our people will die due to non compliance, or for no fault of theirs. I feel that an 'Ordinance' is required to effect all of the above. As such, I plead for the participation of all the MLAs of all Political Pursuations, towards this noble cause and endorse and effect the Govt. Plan/ Programme, in toto. Those not for this should be isolated by PEOPLE POWER! I would also like all our news and other media players and journalists to join in, in this war on Road Terror. Television is the most powerful media, and is so popular that it should be made full use of, in getting the safety message across. So far, I notice that this medium has not been tapped into at all, to educate and or enforce. What a pity. I do earnestly hope that the CH Minister and his GOvt. will act before the end of next week; or else the people, and PEOPLE POWER should goad the GOVt. into this type of action. Or should I/ we push Churchill Alemao to cause trembling knees in Govt.?? :-) :-) VIVA GOA! Long Live the Safety of Our People, on our Roads and everywhere! Will the Govt. ACT or NOT? Nascimento Caldeira Melbourne Down Under _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] NEW TIATRO IN KUWAIT
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- NEW KONKANI TIATRO IN KUWAIT. ARXEANT HANSLO ARXEANT RODDLO. One of the well well-known Goan playwrights Salu Faleiro winner of One Act Play competitions earlier in Kuwait and also acting in many tiatros in Goa before landing in Kuwait, is all set to stage his first Konkani Tiatro ARXEANT HANSLO ARXEANT RODDLO on 21st of this month at Hawally A/C Hall starting at 3.30 p.m. Salu Faleiro since his announcement of this Tiatro almost a year ago gained total appreciation and support from the people in Kuwait and according to my information I am aware that with the goodwill of the tiatro goers Salu Faleiro will attain a very good success in staging this tiatro. All the members of his troupe according to the available information are devoting their time for the rehearsals at Hawally. In order to make his drama fruitful, Salu Faleiro has chosen best of artistes from Kuwait among them are renowned comedian Philip, Querobina Carvalho, Sylvester Vaz, Marcus Vaz, Laurent Pereira, Rosary Ferns, Michael DSilva, Adrian, Sanny de Quepem, Mario de Majorda, Jacinto, Clara, Lawry M., Alex Michael, Luis de Sanguem, Andrew, Zoro, Ignatius, M. Luis and others. The visiting artistes are attractive Jessica, veteran Irene, topmost comedian Jesus Antao, Jr. Chico, Jr. Sylvester and first time in Kuwait the character actor Anil Pednekar who is considered as second to none on Konkani stage in performing character roles. About Anil Pednekar, till recently a member of Prince Jacob troupe and currently in Goa having his own troupe in collaboration with Olga, is considered as the best character actor on Konkani stage and according to the director of this Tiatro Anil Pednekar will create real waves in Arxeant Hanslo Arxeant Roddlo and prove to everyone why he is rated as top character actor. Speaking to this writer, the director of this Tiatro said that the audience will get lot of comedy by ace and Kuwait based veteran comedian Philip who will have strong support from comedy queen Querobina Carvalho. Additionally, the director said that coming all the way from Goa renowned and one of the topmost Goa based comedians Jesus Antao will produce peals of laughter in the hall throughout this show. Speaking to this writer telephonically, comedian Jesus told that he will perform his comedy as never performed before in Kuwait. Salu Faleiro also confirmed to this writer that all his local artistes in collaboration with the visiting ones will render new songs which will surely satisfy the tastes of the audience. Musical score will be provided by Dennis, Philip, Shahu, Faustin and first time in Kuwait for Tiatro ace Drummer Rocky de Siolim. It is nice to know that day by day we are in Kuwait getting new and fresh talents in diverse fields and Rockys arrival will strengthen the musical score for our Tiatros. Gate passes are available with Tony Golden Goa Shop, Kuwait. Tel. 6575653, 9064557, 9495347. A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The end of Mopa..writing on the wall! The man has spoken..
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- http://oheraldo.in/node/12184 Babush joins anti-Mopa bandwagon BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, APRIL 10 -- His dream of becoming president of Goa Pradesh Congress Committee (GPCC) may not have been fulfilled so far. But he is trying to embark on a new mission, to resolve the airport imbroglio. Town Country Planning Minister, Babush Monserrate has overnight become a vocal protagonist of 'No Mopa, only Dabolim'. The issue was discussed informally in his chamber at the new Secretariat in Porvorim with South Goa MP Churchill Alemao, campaigner for the anti-Mopa agitation, and pro-Mopa BJP legislator from Dhargalim constituency in Pernem, Babu Azgaonker. He said he would talk to all ministers as well as the chief minister with the objective of ending the impasse and strongly felt that a Cabinet decision be taken to scrap the proposed airport at Mopa. Monserrate however doesn't agree with Churchill's mode of agitation. He said being a member of the PM appointed committee headed by the CM on airport in Goa, Churchill should have discussed the issue in detail at the committee level before holding public meetings. Monserrate's contention is that there is no opposition to Dabolim airport. Even supporters of Mopa are not opposed to Dabolim. He says some years ago when the Centre felt that Goa should have a new international airport, site selection was set in motion and two sites – Quitol in South and Mopa in Pernem were short listed of which the latter was selected. He argues by saying that people of Mopa or Pernem taluka had not demanded that Mopa should be the site for the international airport. When it was pointed out that land might be a major problem for expansion of Dabolim airport, Monserrate said the Union Defence minister Pranab Mukherjee had earlier assured that land would be provided. mentioned to the Goa delegation two months ago that land would be provided in Dabolim for expansion. Land could also be taken from a private firm, he said. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense!(re Mario's comment)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- --- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U talk of deliveries at home; U have to be rich and pay for all that'. I did that and more and was even used to shopping for these items in person; but it was not easy. So what I am saying is that the situ has not changed even after 20 years. Have you ever gone and bought 'fish' in Margao, or done any shopping yourself; Then you will know the problems. Rich men's life like you describe, can be had anywhere; but when you try to live yourself, in Goa, it is tough. So I am not complaining, per se! only saying that the old situation has not progressed, but rather regressed; Mario responds: Why would I go buy fish in the market and cook when I'm on vacation, and then complain because it's tough? I let the local Goans, who do it all year round, go buy the fish and beef and pork and vegetables, and cook it better than I can and deliver the food to me, while I sit in my balcao sipping local Belo beer and feni. We all benefit. BTW, I only buy local Belo beer in Goa because the brewmaster is my friend. So, please support Belo beer when you are in Goa. Nasci, you keep talking about rich, but I do not pay any extra other than tips for delivery, which is worth my time when I'm on vacation. You need to learn how to organize better, man, so that you have more fun and less to complain about. My point is that you, who doesn't even live there, complains about every single detail, no matter where you go in India. It's too noisy, the buses are too crowded, it's too dirty, the food is bad, the roads are bad, tourists are getting fleeced, you can't buy milk as and when you want, and on and on. To me that sounds like the Goa I remember before 1961. I don't think India has regressed at all, just the opposite. The local people tell me that things have improved, even though much still needs to be done. It is YOU who has changed, and want everyone back home in India to know about it. Then you go back to Australia. In the meantime millions of people are going to India every year and enjoying every minute they are there. Nasci writes: Whilst you are talking of the 'Fidalgo' life in the old tradition. What about the common man and the not so rich tourist like me. You are suggesting: to hell with every one else's discomfort as long as Mario can live like a fidalgo! You are saying there are no power outages in Goa. you must be living in virtual America; Did u carry some generators with you? In Margao and all over Goa there are interruptions to power at least 10 to 15 times a day, every day. Mario replies: I don't know about Margao, but I live in Panjim when I'm in Goa, mostly in February. If we had 10 to 15 power outages a day I would certainly know it. But I do have one complaint. We noticed some ants on our kitchen counter, who apparently came to check us out. Some Borax powder told them they should leave and not to return. I forgot to tell everyone on Goanet about those pesky ants, but you reminded me that alls not well in Goa:-)) Nasci, I migrated because I was not a Fidalgo. Is there anything wrong with that? Now I can pretend I'm a Fidalgo for a few days a year in Goa. If I wanted to spend my life obsessing about everyone else's discomfort I would have become a missionary or a social worker. If you visit India as frequently as you do and travel all over India, you can afford to do exactly what I do. You just have the wrong attitude and approach, in my opinion. I go to India to enjoy myself, realize where I am, adjust to local conditions, organize for my benefit, I'm happy to be there and enjoy my trip. You seem to go with a chip on your shoulder, and a check-list of what's wrong. You demand that India change to suit you, and then complain to high heaven that it has not changed enough to suit you. Like I've said before, India is not everyone's cuppa tea. Based on your comments, it's not good for your physical or mental health to go there. I can promise you, it will be the same for you the next time and every time as long as you live. Noisy, dirty, crowded, evil. Not good. Isn't that why you left? _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Mr RKN, You are awake! I have still to hear anything original from you; I remember since the last time I tried to goad you into doing so. Anyway, to answer your question: I have made it my business already, and many have done it before me, but may be, without saying so. Does this answer your question. What is your view? You have always failed to give your view on anything, even after I have challenged you to state your views on the many topics that have come up. Are you so 'SHY' or just an opportunist journalist? See Ya! Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Down Under From: Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:20:56 -0400 -- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- (He is the one who has successfully argued against the blatant anti americanism (just for the sake of it) as also against agnostics and scientists and philosophers, and helped put these 'Intelligent?' guys in their place. At least this is my humble view, from the common man's point and stand!) Since when has the common man made it his business to help put agnostics, scientists, philosophers and intelligent guys in their place? :-) -- RKN _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Unbalanced CyberMatrimonials and ChiSquarecalculations as per Cornel 2
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jose 1: As you will know, I was just teasing re the use of statistical tests for the cybermatrimonials data referred to by Cecil. 2: However, apart from the Chi test you suggested, there are (as you would well know), other relevant non-parametric tests for very small samples if one is not particularly bothered about wasting one's time! Regards Cornel === Dear Cornel 1: So was I 2: It is NOT much of a time to do a Chi Square on a Table of 4 Maximum time (Manually) - about 4 minutes With appropriate Software - about 23 secs including data entry Since you mentioned Small numbers, A Yates correction has to be applied to the Chi Square test. Additional time - 1 minute The rest. Priceless (;-) much love from here jc _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: Baloney: - a response to Tony Correia-Afonso
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Tony Correia-Afonso wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:29:33 +0530 Dear Josebab, 1: Let me begin by stating that I agree 90% with what you say about the dismal state of affairs in many areas in present-day Goa. 2: My only point is that we are only ourselves to blame for it. Decades after we have become a full-fledged self-governing State with our own elected Government, we can ill afford to indulge in our favourite Goan past-time of blaming others for our ills! 3: As for your statement that Goans keep electing the same Alibabas because they are not adequately informed, I can tell you from personal experience that this is a lot of baloney. 4: When I went campaigning as a candidate in the 1989 Assembly Elections, I was told by many voters that You are a good man. In fact you are too good a man to represent us, because you will not do our work (amchem kam korche nam) - which translates as you will not indulge in illegal and even criminal acts on our behalf. 5: This, unfortunately being the case, I was trounced by the Alibaba! 6: It is the unfortunate but bitter truth that the people keep electing the same Alibabas as a fully conscious choice and not because they lack adequate information about the candidate. 7: The only hope is to SENSITISE them about the folly of their decision and the consequences thereof. === jc response: Dear Tonybab, Once again, I thank you for the courtesy of your response. We are, of course, discussing the role (or not) of the alleged Goa Press in the process of the political sensitization of Goans. I'd like for us to think about WHY good candidates (usually standing as Independent or third/fourth party candidates) do not make it in Goa (Matanhy having been noted) Please allow me to use a cricket analogy, and add a comment about marketing. 1: It is my belief that even the best spin bowler will find himself ineffective on a pitch prepared by the groundsman to favour the batsmeni.e. a dead pitch. I submit to you that the groundsmen of any democracy, are the journalists. They watch, they inform, they update - all, as accurately as they possibly can. Our so called Goa journos could have been the Watchdogs; Instead they have turned out to be Lapdogs - barking at one unconnected trumped up issue or another. A study of the lead editorials in the main newspapers over the past 40+ years might be revealing. I wonder if they (the editorials) correspond (in a timely fashion) to the major issues affecting Goa and Goans. So, dear Tonybab, How do we get the populace SENSITISED ? What major avenue do we have save the Press? (In a secular State, we definitely do NOT need the Church to play this role, even IF the alleged Goa Press is doing what it does best i.e. bondollam) It is possible that my contention about the Press' role in this arena is A Lot of Baloney, as you put is. I'd merely add that I agree with your point # 7 above 2: Any product, However Brilliant but not properly and sufficiently marketed, is destined to be a flop. Those who are in the marketing business (not moi) will advise us that UNLESS the public hears POSITIVE stuff (repeatedly and convincingly - accurately of course) about a product or candidate or party, that product or candidate or party is unlikely to suceed. From your experience in # 4 #5 above, do you believe that you got the deserved attention in the Press to counteract the grass-root cultivation which Alibaba was conducting from a few years prior, with the additional support of politicians elsewhere? HAD the Goa Press (and I mean the Journos NOT those outstation Editors) done some dogged work, Do you believe that you would have had a better chance at succeeding? The second important sine qua non about Marketing, I am led to believe, is the Name of the Company which stands behind a product. I ask, once again, ONLY because I don't know: IF we had one sales representative marketing a NEW cough medicine made by (say) Lokk Pharma, and another marketing a Cough Medicine made by (say) Congress/BJ/UG/MG/ Cipla Pharma, which one would an 'undecided' customer likely purchase? This has been my feeling about Gomant Lokk Poxx or Goa Suraj ...or this and that Jagruti Fauz or whatever. I say to those who choose names for Political Parties: THINK again WHY Successful Manufacturers choose the product names they do. Besides, IF 5 years go by, and we still have to explain the MEANING of the NAME we are destined to remain in the lane
RE: [Goanet] - New Metro affords a glimpse of a possible India -
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hi Francis, I was there along with my daughter, in Delhi in November 2004, when this first phase or section of the Delhi Metro was under construction; and the same was commissioned/inaugrated late last year. I did look into the designs and the plan as such, as it invoked a lot of inerest in me. The whole system including everything is very good and first class, comparable to any in the world. This Metro is already late by twenty years, I would say; but its good that it is here at last. Before this, Delhi had its Circular Metro Railway; and now this. These two systems will compensate for the absense of Mass Transit Systems in the Delhi area, whilst Bombay, Calcutta and Madras had mass transit rly systems before the British left India. Bombay had its first Electrical Multiple Units Trains running from 1925. So u see, comparatively, how late Delhi is. Good to know that they are catching up. To leftist ruled Calcutta goes the credit of having the first underground Metro in all of India. They were allowed then as the City needed it very badly; all the Bengalis used to overload their buses so much, that their buses developed a 'permanent tilt' within a few days of operation. Calcutta has been the greatest Shitty in the world; thats how the Bengali tongue pronounces it! For me it means literally as well; since I hace experienced this Shitty, on and off for some twenty long years. Coming back to Dehli Metro. readers should also know that its been designed and built by a consortium of Malaysian and Japanese firms, I think; but I am not very sure of which firms from which country. Is it not a shame that Indian priorities have not enabled it to design and build these systems by itself, more so since having inherited the largest railway systems in the world, handed over by the British to India on a platter, so to say? Anyway, good that progress is being made! I hope other cities will also be enabled and financed by the New Delhi , towards this end. I also hope that this will help Delhi's notorious Hazy skies disappear, and the SUN will rise and set, again, throughout the year in the Capital. Then I will go and get some good Photos which were impossible because of the hazy and foggy skies! Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Down Under Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Subject: [Goanet] Yahoo! News Story - New Metro affords a glimpse of apossible India - Yahoo! News Date: 11 Apr 2006 05:43:30 -0700 Personal message: Mario Guava / Nasci etc. Read, and weep ! Francis New Metro affords a glimpse of a possible India - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/odelhi _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Book Review: EXPLORATIONS IN CONNECTED HISTORY - Mughals and Franks
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- A different historical trajectory The Hindu Online edition of India's National Newspaper Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 R. CHAMPAKALAKSHMI This concluding part of the review focusses on Sanjay Subrahmanyam's main contributions to a better understanding of the complex historical processes EXPLORATIONS IN CONNECTED HISTORY - Mughals and Franks: Sanjay Subrahmanyam; Oxford University Press, YMCA Library Building, Jai Singh Road, New Delhi-110001. Rs. 575. The historiographical importance of the two collections of Sanjay Subrahmanyam's essays lies in his main contributions to a better understanding of the complex historical processes, which marked the interaction between the European world and the Asian polities in the early modern period. One may start with his discussion on the millenarianism of the 16th century, providing one of the most powerful of the ideologies associated with European expansion i.e., Portuguese expeditions in the Indian Ocean occurring at a millenarian conjuncture that operated over a good part of the old world in the 16th century and coinciding with economic networks and political imperialism of the Ottomans, Mughals (Akbar's messianic pretensions) and Safavids (Iran). The complex history of the 16th century millenarianism operated on a far wider and perhaps even global scale, the globe being encompassed by discoveries. Apart from empires and larger political entities, the importance of assigning historical agency to individuals, be it a private trader or Flemish jeweller-cum-traveller or a governor of the Portuguese Estado da India or an Anand Ram Mukhlis in Mughal Delhi, is emphasised. Their ability to make observations and their perceptions of events within a given context are most useful as against the structuralist and relativist or even nationalist approaches. Events are of equal significance as historical agency. To cite an example, the assassination of Bahadur Shah of Gujarat (1537), in which Portuguese complicity is strongly suspected, is an event to be located in the context of the factional/political interests of the times as also the larger political and ideological issues. Yet other examples are the Portuguese involvement in the fratricidal conflicts during the disturbed periods of Mughal succession, when pretenders and impostors proliferated and the legend of Bulaqi, another Mughal prince and his wanderings, which also point to individuals as important sources of historical agency. Acculturation The period is particularly important for the process of acculturation in the newly discovered regions, i.e. through Christianity (Spanish America-Mexico), while Persianisation of the Asian countries, which is not necessarily Islamisation, was more cultural. Influences from Mughal Delhi and Deccani sultanates over Vijayanagara were as a part of it. In Deccan, the direct participation of Golconda and Bijapur in commerce as that of the Bengal sultanate was as significant as that of the other Bay of Bengal states like Arakan and Melaka. Acculturation also in the form of Persianisation and spread of Mercantalist ideology in the Bay of Bengal was brought about through the spread of Iranian and Persian elites and traders from 1400-1700 in Thailand and the partial Persianisation of comportments and of conceptions of statecraft in Arakan (the Maghs with dreams of world conquest) and in the Aceh sultanate, which point to the fact that Persianisation was the yardstick of civilisation. Crossroads of culture Second is the recognition of South Asia's role as the crossroads of different cultures from the Mediterranean to East Asia (Japan), China, Manila and Melaka with a series of trade centres and a vast series of commercial routes such as the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea, and also the newly discovered route around the Cape of Good Hope (Africa). Portuguese settlements on the west and east coasts of South India (Masulipatnam, Hughli, Santhome, Mylapore) with Goa and Melaka as the two main official centres apart from Manila in the Far East became part of a Portuguese commercial network that survived in later centuries with other European groups. Fray Gabriel's text (A Dominican voyage through the India c.1600) forms the centre of questions relating to trading links from Manila and Melaka to Mylapore. Arakan, also at the crossroads, emerged under the Mrauk U dynasty, from its marginality in the perspective of Indo-Persian writers, to be drawn into the international sea borne trade and Aceh by the last quarter of the 16th century. After 1630s Melaka fell into Dutch hands, from when Dutch sources become important for the politico-economic history of Arakan society
[Goanet] Re: Bus Service
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- Dear Anthony, Im glad you posted the piece below. Because Alemao is not bothered about Dabolim or you and me, or how people would go to the Margao rly station. He is bothered about the taxi drivers of South Goa, who are his vote banks in the next local elections. Let me put things into perspective, and illustrate my point about the local politicians. For the past 40 years, there is a mafia of 10 black and yellow taxis running between Margao and Colva, who do not allow either the state or private bus operaters to run their vehicles on the 5 kms of this route. You can well imagine how the common man and folks living all along this road have to suffer. The taxis charge Rs. 7.50 per head and cram 10 people in each cab, with some women almost sitting on the drivers lap, after which they drive at breakneck speed. These old taxis are without indicator lights, wing mirrors or any other modern fittings, since they are Ambassadors, which should have not been passed by the RTO in the first place. The police from Margao and Colva smilingly wave them on. The prepaid cabs from Margao station to Colva cost Rs.150, which is more than you would pay ANYWHERE in India for a distance of 5 kms. The ticket you buy, states that this rate has the blessings of the RTO and Govt of Goa! So why do you want Alemao to break the lobby--he just loves it. I was driving past his *DABOLIM* meeting at Cortalim the other day, and the only vehicles I saw were hundreds of yellow and black cabs, and pilot motor cycles, besides one teatrist named Menino Bandar(?) prancing on the stage. This proves my point. I can tell you some more stories about the taxis of South Goa, but that can wait for another day. The pity is that this same lobby will slowly but surely kill tourism in Goa. Maybe, that may not be too bad a thing, in the long run, for the people who live here. regards, Gilbert Menezes Message: 11 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:17:40 -0400 From: ANTHONY PINHEIRO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Bus Service To: goanet@goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sir, I had gone to Goa and wanted to go to Margao Rly. station from Kadamba bus stop. I was told that the buses are not going to the railway station but I have to take a rickshaw or a Pilot to take me to the railway station which cost me Rs.50/. Why do they not ply City buses from Kadamba bus stand to Margao railway station. Are all the people in Goa rich to pay for the rickshaw or a Pilot. What are the minister doing ? Are you only looking for the rich people who go by planes and what about locals who cannot afford by planes. Does Alemao only looks after the airport. Why can't he break the lobby of rickshaw/taxis who are looted the locals at the Kadamba bus stand to take them to their destination or going to the railway station which is a very important point. Will anybody take up this matter for plying city buses from Kadamba bus stand to Margao Railway Station and back. Anthony - Loutulim -- _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re:The World's Fastest CT Scanner Goa's First 64-Slice Cardiac CT Scan - facilities in Goa -Another Comment
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Thanks to all for your feedbacks. Here is another comment received from another NRG Doctor in UK. == Subject: Re: [GOAN-NRI] The World's Fastest CT Scanner Goa's First 64-Slice Cardiac CT Scan - facilities in Goa I must admit that this modern machine will give you excellent images of the body's internal organs compared to traditional CT scanners and will live up to its reputation of a body scan. However, NRIs please do NOT be taken for a ride with these fancy eye-catching headlines about this new CT scanner which although is modern, the technology and expertise in running it is still being developed with lots of flaws noted in this non-invasive Cardiac imagimg here in the UK. Imaging of blood vessels with this scanner is still being developed. Specifically it has NOT yet replaced the cardiac Coronary Angiogram (injected dye contrast study of the heart's blood vessels), but I suspect this will in another 10+ years when this machine will then be obsolete! For the timebeing traditional CT scanners where ever they are located in Goa, will continue to stand the test of time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Query about Seoul...
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- From: john desa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 08:31:56 GMT+05:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: john desa [EMAIL PROTECTED], John desa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: assistance Hello Fred, How are you and family. We are doing fine over here in Qatar. Summer started and the heat is on. Need a favour. A Goa friend is moving to Seoul from Qatar. I posted on Goanet the following, however it did not appear. Appreciate, if you could post below on Goanet on my behalf. A Goan Friend is moving to Seoul in 2 weeks. Are there any Goanetters/Goans in Seoul. Two years ago I read a posting by a Goan Priest based in Seoul. Appreciate any Goan contacts in Seoul. Regards, John Desa Cortalim/Qatar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks and Regards, John Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 Skype/Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha www.bytesforall.net _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Cultural communalism in Goa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- This framing of the question of separate and unequal society living and expanding in Goa appears awfully close to toying with an idea that is even worse than the old racist compromise of separate but equal. The question should be: How do we promote equality and social integration in Goa? How do we put an end to segregation along communal, casteist, regional and socioeconomic lines? Cheers, Santosh Elisabeth Carvalho elisabeth_car at yahoo.com wrote: This then is the quandary. How do we resolve the issue of a separate and unequal society living and expanding in Goa? Yes, there is a frisson in Goa, one that will exploited by politicians, one that will be ignited by the most inane of incidents and one that will explode like puerile vomit in the very midst of our serenity. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- --- Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when has the common man made it his business to help put agnostics, scientists, philosophers and intelligent guys in their place? :-) RKN, There is an emotional need among some common people to put this other group of common people in their place, at least in their own eyes. This old emotional need has now become a political and ideological movement. It is like the common bully acting out against the common nerd in the real world. In such a world language and behavior have no bar. Cheers, Santosh _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * Apr 11, 2006 * Dempo, Salgaocar join hands to launch major new trans-shipper for iron ore
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] / d8 Founded in e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ 1994 by 888 888 d888 i 88b 888 888 d888 88b 888 Herman 88_88 | e88~-888 888 888 __888 888 Carneiro / Y888 ' C888 888 888 888 Y888, 888 Cb 88_-~ 88_-888 888 888 88___/ 88_/ Y http://www.goanet.org * Building social capital. - GOANET NEWS BYTES * APRIL 11, 2006 * DATELINE GOA -- o Three engineering students among four that drown off Calangute. They were from Kerala and vacationing at the Konkan Railway Guest House. The fourth who died on Monday at the same beach was Canadian national Mathew Monteiro (68). Navhind Times comments: Today's four casualties, particularly the students, add to Goa's burgeoning tally of beach drownings and highlights the state's poor record in beach safety.(NT) Goa government has allotted 200,000 square metres of land at Sancoale to M/s Morarjee Realities of the Peninsula Group for establishing a Special Economic Zone for research and development facilities, mainly in pharmaceuticals. CM Pratapsing Rane handed over the allotment letter for the land to J.M.Mody of Morarjee Realities Ltd.(H) TWO MAJOR MINING HOUSES in Goa, VM Salgaocar and VS Dempo have joined hands to launch a new transshipper (these play a key role in the ore export trade) and it has been called M V Goan Pride. Large newspaper adverts, particularly in the mining linked section of the Goa media, congratulate both firms on the launch of the transshipper by chief minister Pratapsing Rane on Tuesday. Yesterday's papers highlighted the visits by teams from Japan, South Korea and China -- all major iron-ore importers from Goa. Navhind says the state-of-art technology was used to create the new-generation transshipper with a storage capacity of 123,000 tonnes in her holds and a loading capacity of about 75,000 tonnes per day. It has the the capacity to load Panamax vessels in one day and larger-sized cape vessles of upto 300,000 DWT in three to four days, brining Goa at par with the loading facilities of leading iron ore exporting countries like Australia and Brazil. (Navhind Times) o Babush (controversial town and country planning miniser Atanasio Monteiro) has overnight become a vocal protagonist of the 'No Mopa, only Dabolim' airport campaign. (H) o New water connection ban planned in Mormugao: With entire Mormugao in general and Vasco in particular facing an acute water shortage, the district authorities have favoured a ban on issuing new water connections in the taluka. (H) o CM rules out cash crunch in Goa. (H) o Jamir, Rane extend Id greetings. (H) o Cuncolkars block approach road to garbage dumpyard. (H) o Passenger RK Krishnan held with catridges before flight.H o Migrants leave Aquem, Khareband slums with the axe looming large over illegal shanties in Margao. (H) o Mumbai consultant employed at Sirvodem sewage plant. (H) o Malim firecracker mishap victims still critical. (H) o Seizure of statues: Mumbai local Dhirendra Jha held. Sleuths are now looking at busting a bigger and organised racket. (H) o Components of comunidades to meet on Apr 11, Holy Spirit Church Hall, Margao, 11 am in view of recent developments.H o Churchill vows to save Dabolim airport for posterity. (H) o Vishwesh Acharya unanimously elected sarpanch of Loliem-Polem. o Navy's new J-24 boats set to create history. (H) o With Goa get bitten by OBC (other backward classes) quota bug? There's nothing on paper to suggest that, but if politics dictates this, then the Rane government will have no choice but to toe the line and bite the quota bullet.(GT) o Porvorim residents flay leasing of land for commercial use.GT GOANETTER and writer Victor Rangel-Ribeiro is featured in a Gomantak Times column called 'Writer's Bloc' by Arti Das. (GT) THE SINGING TALENT of the Cottas and the Colacos is featured in an article by Nicole Suares in GT. -- THE GOOD NEWS
[Goanet] OFFTOPIC: The other face of multiculturalism
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- The other face of multiculturalism (LETTER FROM LEICESTER) By Prasun Sonwalkar, Indo-Asian News Service Leicester, April 11 (IANS) Leicester's officials delight in the success they have achieved in ensuring that its large minorities from the Indian sub-continent and elsewhere co-exist peacefully. Not everyone here is happy with this. Due to several historical reasons - mainly the settling here of the many Indians who were expelled by Idi Amin from Uganda in the 1970s - this town has one of the highest numbers of non-whites in Britain. Indeed, officials believe that by 2011 the town will have a non-white majority. Unlike most towns in Britain, Leicester's bustling city centre is a perfect showcase for its multiculturalism. Here, white and non-white consumers and traders are joined together in close economic ties. Leicester also has close trade ties with Gujarat and other parts of India. But if people from the Indian sub-continent here feel more comfortable than in any other part of Britain, there is also the other story of many locals who do not exactly share the enthusiasm for multiculturalism. Such people may not exactly be racists, but are distinctly uncomfortable with their town being almost taken over by people of different colours and nationalities. Several disadvantaged people among the white and Afro-Caribbean communities are sore with the rising prosperity of the Asian community. Disadvantaged whites believe that policies to promote multiculturalism had neglected them. Rising crime has also been a cause for concern for residents. Uneasy with the changing colours of Leicester, some families who have lived here for generations have moved out to other places in Britain, mainly to the sylvan south-west that has some of the lowest concentrations of non-whites. Dan Wilson, who used to live in the Knighton area, is so disgusted with the town that he had his family 'shipped out' to Devon for good. His family had been associated with the town for over 100 years. Calling Leicester as 'awful place', he wrote in a letter to the editor of the Leicester Mercury, a leading newspaper: Myself and my wife have been totally disillusioned about how the city has rapidly gone downhill. The level of crime and dirt, the number of rundown businesses and shops, and the influx of immigrants making you feel like a stranger in your own city, have all added up to us escaping this hell hole of what was once a proud and thriving place. This is no place to bring a young family up any more. Traditional values have been thrown out of the window and you don't just feel safe in the city centre any more. No amount of money on a new 'cultural quarter' or extended Shires will help. Anyway, goodbye Leicester, you won't be missed! -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/popular-views/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Cultural communalism in Goa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hello Liz, (Aussies use shortest one syllable names for everyone:-); hope U do not mind) Oh! this is such a correct analysis! I do agree with you completely, and extend my support for the exposure. Like you, and perhaps many others, I would 'seek' a resolution on the issue of a seperate and unequal society, living and expanding in Goa. Nascimento Caldeira Melbourne Down Under Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This then is the quandary. How do we resolve the issue of a separate and unequal society living and expanding in Goa? Yes, there is a frisson in Goa, one that will exploited by politicians, one that will be ignited by the most inane of incidents and one that will explode like puerile vomit in the very midst of our serenity. Elisabeth _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Africander hockey in Goa !
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hi Gabe Just catching up with past posts. I am certain that Egbert Fernandes is in Canberra. I stopped there for two days and a good friend showed me many Goan homes (including that of Egbert's) in a specific part of Canberra. It is of course possible that Egbert has moved but I doubt it. Cornel - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Africander hockey in Goa ! On 07/04/06, Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..there have been quite a few Goan Olympians from E. Africa - maybe Gabriel can even tell us what happened to the fab Kenyan Olympiad duo of Edgar and Egbert Fernandes, who eventually migrated to Australia ? Ah well, 'those were the days m RESPONSE: I know that Egbert is in Adelaide, I believe his son plays/played for an Australian State. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- (He is the one who has successfully argued against the blatant anti americanism (just for the sake of it) as also against agnostics and scientists and philosophers, and helped put these 'Intelligent?' guys in their place. At least this is my humble view, from the common man's point and stand!) Since when has the common man made it his business to help put agnostics, scientists, philosophers and intelligent guys in their place? :-) -- RKN _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] BOOK LAUNCH: April 16, 2006
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- PRESS RELEASE Goan traveller-poet and Sahitya Akademi published poet Brian Mendonça will launch his debut volume of Goan poems with audio CD entitled Last Bus to Vasco: Poems from Goa on Sunday 16 April, 2006 at La Paz Gardens, Vasco at 5 p.m. Mr Menino Peres, Director, Department of Information and Publicity, Government of Goa will release the book. Last Bus to Vasco is a gathering of 50 poems written in Goa, on Goa and while travelling to and from Goa. It is a poetic history of Goa which spans 20 years from Requiem to a Sal (1986) to The Bells of St. Andrews (2005). The book is priced at Rs 150 inclusive of the audio CD of the poems read in the poets own voice and textured with sounds of Goa like the sound of the sea, of rain and of the birds. Poems like Mapusa Memories, Xitona-Navelim, and Last Bus to Vasco present cameos of the Goan way of life. Drawing on 7 languages, including Konkani and Portuguese the poems reflect Brians view that Reality is not monolingual. Beautifully produced in natural paper, 80 gsm, and typeset in elegant easy-to- read Jansen 10/15, with a lush trim size of 8.75x 5.75, the book, in hardback, has a breathtaking cover depicting a lone Kadamba bus negotiating a swerve on the National Highway 17 enroute to its destination. This book has been self-published by Brian with assistance from the Government of Goa. Brian travels widely and has given readings in places like Kathmandu, Srinagar, Bangalore, Delhi and Mumbai. He is the son of Alex George Mendonça and Alda Mendonça of Mangor Hill, Vasco, Goa. http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=293 _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Bus Service
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Sir, I had gone to Goa and wanted to go to Margao Rly. station from Kadamba bus stop. I was told that the buses are not going to the railway station but I have to take a rickshaw or a Pilot to take me to the railway station which cost me Rs.50/. Why do they not ply City buses from Kadamba bus stand to Margao railway station. Are all the people in Goa rich to pay for the rickshaw or a Pilot. What are the minister doing ? Are you only looking for the rich people who go by planes and what about locals who cannot afford by planes. Does Alemao only looks after the airport. Why can't he break the lobby of rickshaw/taxis who are looted the locals at the Kadamba bus stand to take them to their destination or going to the railway station which is a very important point. Will anybody take up this matter for plying city buses from Kadamba bus stand to Margao Railway Station and back. Anthony - Loutulim _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Francisco D'Souza: COO of Cognizant Technology Solutions
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- A clear roadmap= The Hindu Monday, Apr 10, 2006 Krishnan Thiagarajan Bharat Kumar Cognizant Technology Solutions on software trends and the company's strategies As an astute observer of trends in the software industry, Francisco D' Souza, Chief Operating Officer of Cognizant Technology Solutions, engaged in a freewheeling discussion with eWorld recently. Excerpts: Do you think application development and maintenance is heavily penetrated for the industry as a whole and is likely to get commoditised faster than expected?=20 At this point, we think that it largely depends on how we classify these services. We have a healthy pipeline of services around testing, data warehousing or package implementation. We do not know whether it is classified by Nasscom-McKinsey as applications or systems integration. If we look at the study closely, systems integration and IT infrastructure are significantly under-penetrated and those are the new engines of growth. By the way, speaking about commoditisation, I am not entirely sure if application development is something that becomes commoditised over time. There is no evidence of it in the past. I think commoditisation occurs when the market essentially looks at everybody's services or products and says that they are virtually the same, whether I buy from producer A or B. That I do not think is likely to happen in application development. In application development, there is capability; there is differentiation among firms and investments made by them. There is a difference between the way Cognizant does application development as compared to any of the global firms. You will see differentiation among the firms in those dimensions. Full text at: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ew/2006/04/10/stories/20060410001703 00.htm More at: http://www.cognizant.com/aboutus/aboutus_exec_frank.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_D'Souza ~(^^)~ Avelino _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: *** DOCUMENT: Broken Peace -- Fact-finding committee report of the first communal violence in Goa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- This is a false report please don't misdirect us in this regards. This is all political game the committee is a money making one which is backed by congress. We people are well educated know all these goondas involved in this committee. -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: *** DOCUMENT: Broken Peace -- Fact-finding committee report of thefirst communal violence in Goa BROKEN PEACE: FACT-FINDING COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE FIRST COMMUNAL VIOLENCE IN GOA PANAJI, APRIL 2006 ALL INDIA MILLI COUNCIL, NEW DELHI Introduction -- Read all Goanet messages archived at: http://www.goanet.org/archive.php?name=Newslist=goanet _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Workshop in Goa to address trafficking, selective abortions
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Workshop in Goa to address trafficking, selective abortions 10/04/2006 Indian journalists will participate in an upcoming workshop focusing on two pressing human rights issues: human trafficking and the selective abortions of females. The workshop is scheduled for April 23 and 24 in Goa, and about 50 journalists have already been selected to participate. The Indian human rights group Shakti Vahini is organizing the event with support from the UN Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM). The workshop will help the journalists learn more about covering the issues of human trafficking and female feticide. Trafficking of human beings is increasing in South Asia, and as many as 90 percent are women and girls taken across borders for prostitution or sexual slavery. Female feticide is the selective abortion of female fetuses when families would prefer a male. It is a problem in India and other countries where families favor males, partly so they will not have to pay a dowry upon marriage. A recent study by the British medical journal The Lancet found that about one in every 25 female fetuses is aborted in India - or about 500,000 per year. The practice has deeper implications for society, as there are about nine girls born for every 10 boys in India. Shakti Vahini: http://www.shaktivahini.org/ UNIFEM: http://www.unifem.org/. http://www.ijnet.org/Director.aspx?P=3DArticleID=3D304834LID=3D1 ~(^^)~ Avelino _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Yahoo! News Story - New Metro affords a glimpse of a possible India - Yahoo! News
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Francis Rodrigues ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you a news article. (Email address has not been verified.) Personal message: Mario Guava / Nasci etc. Read, and weep ! Francis New Metro affords a glimpse of a possible India - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/odelhi Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: Goan Independence Party
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Awesome, man, s-w-e-e-t ! Right on, dude ! Gary. . Perhaps, India needs to get liberated as well. Failing that, perhaps, Goa Independence seekers like Gabriel F and Bernardo Colaco could form a grand alliance with regime change experts like Mario Guava and jointly push for a unified platform under the Goan Independence Clown Party. Marlon _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goa's appalling Road Sense!(re Mario's comment)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who has read my hardly-nuanced opinions on this subject would know that I have always clearly distinguished between colonial Portugal, which I strongly opposed, and modern Portugal, which I have described as a second-class European country that is not coming back to Goa again to be a nanny for the benefit of the upper-class Goan Portophiles. Looks like you have totally misundestood all the Lusophiles on this forum. Nobody wants Portugal to come back as a Nanny. What we don't like, Mr. super Mario, is that you refer to Portugal the way you do. And many lusophiles are not upper-class either. Got it? Gabriel de Figueiredo. On yahoo!7 Avatars: Dress up like your Dancing with the Stars favourites! http://au.avatars.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Unbalanced CyberMatrimonials and Chi Squarecalculations as per Cornel
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hi Jose As you will know, I was just teasing re the use of statistical tests for the cybermatrimonials data referred to by Cecil. However, apart from the Chi test you suggested, there are (as you would well know), other relevant non-parametric tests for very small samples if one is not particularly bothered about wasting one's time! Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: jose colaco _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] RE:Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document - response toCornel
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Hi Jose No problem here. I think we were chasing rather different ends but are in agreement generally. Cornel - Original Message - From: jose colaco Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] travel piece on Palolem, Goa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Travel -- What's On (Dubai) May, 2006 Bhaji on the Beach Ayurvedic massage, wheatgrass shots, 6am yoga, colonic flushes - Palolem beach in southern Goa is the ultimate soul-cleansing holiday. So Gareth Roberts watched it all from the bar with a Kingfisher and a coconut. Excuse me, miss, the carpet here seems to be soaking wet, I said, squishing my feet into the expanding dark stain for effect. Our 737 is 15 minutes out of Dubai and still ascending and 1 can feel thin tendrils of fear brush the back of my neck. Water and electronics, not a good mix, especially at 30,000 feet. I shout to the flight attendant. Don't worry it's nothing, we can get you another seat she shouts back from the jump seat in front of the Executive Class seating. The seatbelt light pings and almost immediately the wall mounted cinema screen crackles into life - so begins two hours of in-flight entertainment Bollywood-style -- West Side Story meets Four Weddings and a Funeral. With car chases. My three-year-old daughter is so enthralled she has stopped eating the toothpaste she fished out of the complimentary wash bag while nobody was looking. Two song-and-dance hours later the plane descends into Goa. First, the dark cyan waters of the Arabian Sea, then the black, palm-spiked rocks of mainland India and then lots of dark lush green. After Dubai's halogen landscape, Goa wraps itself around you like a leafy primordial boa. The friends we're meeting here appear from nowhere, bouncing up the stairs their faces beaming the internationally recognisable smile of people who have three weeks off work. We've got a taxi booked, its great, you'll love it. I'm worried. Fully loaded, our taxi --which from a distance looked like a people carrier from any international airport until you realise it's not that far away, its, right in front of you, it's very, very small -- shuffled out of the airport and gripped the black tarmac road that snaked over the hill into the rolling dense forests of Goa. The first night was spent only a few clicks from the airport as the next day half our party went on a shopping expedition to Mumbai to stock up on exotic material and discount Ray-Bans. Once in Goa, we discover The Coconut Creek Hotel really is set in a coconut grove and swisher than the website photos suggest. The shaded terraces, respectfully raised to only half the height of the massive palm trees, jostle for space by the pool. The chalets wed booked online are spacious and well appointed - each has a small terrace leading to the pool and bar where your next beer is only a wave away. Thee owner, a feisty Scot with a penchant for pub quizzes, has a well-honed sense of what constitutes good service welcoming guests personally and offering great tips (garnered from 20-years in the region) on how to get the most out of the area in two weeks - most of which is lost by our third Honey Bee - an innocent-sounding brandy concoction that demolishes the senses with the zeal of a cyclone. Come dusk and the mosquitoes come out to play. These sneaky black monsters have evolved biting skills that made light work of my clothes and repellent. But I was only bitten twice in two weeks and they work short shifts - Deet is recommended, swatting is optional. The Coconut Creek seems entirely occupied by returnees. Sean Davies a sunburnt taxi driver from Dorset, England visits twice a year with his wife, It's incredibly calm here, I'm happy to just sit down by the beach watching the surf, Id move here if I could. The next day, we pile into another tin-can taxi and head down the coast to Palolem. Regarded as one of the world's great beaches, Palolem is a three-mile crescent of platinum sand in a bay carved by gentle surf, monitored by a million impossibly angled coconut palms. When the breeze picks up, they sway like drunk supermodels - all big hair and stick thin bodies. Our bamboo hut is like a cast-off from a bad Tarzan movie. The huts double in number every year, sporting names that range from the mundane Beach Huts to the comically exotic Mr Jane's Marigold Chalets to the baffling iPod Villa Music Huts. Each year they build them and at the end of the season they tear them down and burn them. The beach is home to hundreds of motorcycle taxis, rickshaws and hole-in-the-wall shops selling everything from sarongs to vodka to racy cassettes. The town of Bakti Kutir is on a hill overlooking the bay through palms so dense that under a full moon, it looks like a bar-code plantation. There's a mad selection of therapeutic treatments but `Panic Yoga' catches my eye. As I
[Goanet] Goa's Mining Industry
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- I will try and answer the points raised by Ralph Rau in his post to the best of my ability and knowledge. I am willing to be corrected if my take on any of them is not correct. 1)What is the basis on which this wealth is shared between state lease owner. --- The Central Government collects excise duty, export duty and income tax.The State Government only benefits from any spin-offs that may arise from mining activity. 2)Was any windfall tax imposed on the mine owners to claim a share of their astronomical profits during the last boom. --- No, since the Government would probably have benefitted from additional tax revenue from the windfall profits. 3)Finally what is the constitutional basis on such mine owners to continue their ownership of mineral assets when all over the country such wealth is in the hands of the state corporations. --- The basis is the Lease Agreements whih the mining companies had with the Portuguese Government and private land-owners at the time of Goa's liberation/annexation/invasion in December 1961, the validity of which were upheld by the Supreme Court of India. They will probably continue toenjoy these rights for the pendency of the agreements. --- Tony Correia-Afonso. This message was sent using NWebmail, BSNL's Webmail Program _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Now diaspora youth internship to be different
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- Now diaspora youth internship to be different Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, April 11 (IANS) An Internship Programme for Diaspora Youth (IPDY), begun in 2002, will undergo a change in format to enable its participants to get more exposure to India and its way of life. Organised by the ministry of overseas Indian affairs, the IPDY will be known as 'Know India Programme' and will be different from the four earlier ones. The programme provides a unique forum for students and young professionals of Indian origin abroad to share their views, experience and expectations from India. This year the programme has been made in the nature of an orientation to enable the participants to get exposure to various facets of the Indian way of life, culture, spirituality, adventure and sports, creativity and the composite character of India and interaction with youth from different parts of the country. Unlike in previous years, the interns will not be attached to any particular institution but will instead be based in New Delhi and Himachal Pradesh, a senior official of the ministry told IANS. They will be in New Delhi for two days each at the commencement and conclusion of the programme and in Himachal Pradesh for three weeks. The programme, organised this year in partnership with the Nehru Yuva Kendra Sangathan (NYKS), will comprise 30 youths in the age group of 18 to 25 years. In Himachal Pradesh, the programme will broadly consist of home stay in a village for a week and exposure to a heritage camp, including a 'national integration camp'. Training to develop skills in the areas of sculpture, painting, photography and musical instruments is also being arranged. This apart, trekking expeditions and visits to industrial units in Himachal Pradesh are being organised, according to the official. Indian missions abroad have been asked to file nominations for the programme. Preference will be given to those who have never come to India before. -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- Photographs from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/popular-views/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] India's first Floating Port in Goa - M V Goan Pride
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- India's first Floating Port in Goa Mumbai, Apr 10 : In a bid to ensure efficient handling of dry bulk cargo, India's first Floating Port has been created in Goa called M V Goan Pride. The port set up by Katra Wilhelmsen Logistics (P) Ltd of Norway, is 250 mts long, can store over 1.2 lakh tonnes of cargo and transfer at speed over 4,500 tonnes per hour. It also has other features like the travelling ship loader, capable of loading vessels up to 3 lakh DWT and computerised control systems. Although India has a huge coastline of over 6,000 km and a large number of ports, it is cursed with shallow drafts in almost all ports. Consequently large bulk carriers do not come to India due to poor loading and unloading capacbilities, Katra Group Chairman Ramesh Vangal told reporters here. Hence, the Group devised a unique solution to overcome the problem by taking port to ships not the other way, Vangal said here prior to the official launch at Goa tomorrow. The transhipper is equipped with features developed and patented by Seabulk Systems Inc Canada. It classes for ocean trades and hence can be used as a bulk carrier, while the surge capacity of 1.2 lakh tonnes permits the transhipper to achieve a high speed transhippment without relying on barge deliveries, Seabulk president Sid Sridhar said _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Abrilachi 11vi, 2006!
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Sandleleacher chint dhinaka punn urleleacher dhi. Dhukicher chint dhinaka punn dhukin koxem tuka rup dilam tacher chint dhi. Chukincher chint dhinaka punn chukinim tuka xikoilelea vortea lisanvancher chint dhi. (Do not focus on what you lost but what remains. Do not focus on the pain but how the pain shaped you. Do not focus on the failure but on the great lessons the failure taught you.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Fashion lessons for Goa - by Ethel da Costa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- HEART TO HEART By Ethel Da Costa (Herald 9th April 2006) It's serious fashion at the India Fashion Week No falling tops, no splitting skirts, I'm feeling oh-so-retro at the India Fashion Week in Delhi that I'm beginning to think it's the capital city heat getting to me. Or, was it Kingfisher and Manoviraj Khosla's chic retro Uber 60s naughty rock star collection, which I immensely liked, that has me upbeat and fancy free? Vijay Mallya's brand is in the news for all the right reasons and the denim-Stetson hat-big 60s hair-leather-David Bowie-Lenny Krativz concoction got the applause roaring from first go at The Grand's late night show. Not to forget Abu Jani Sandeep Khosla's Shweta Bachchan, Anna Bredmeyer, Sheetal Malhar triology that sizzled the ramp with such classic nostalgia and fabulous chikankari ensembles that the audience was literally choking on the brilliance of the collection. It's big time fashion business at the Fashion Design Council of India (FDCI) led mega fashion week with 80 designers fine-tuned by leading British events company `S2' - this biggie-wiggie's credentials include events like the London Fashion Week and clients such as Gianni Versace, Vivien Westwood, Jean Paul Gautier, Donna Karen - producing what is easily turning out to be a very professional job at the catwalk. For the first time in a long time, I also see a media seriously making an effort to report just fashion, discussing collections and trends rather than going starry-eyed and losing it completely at the sight of a Mumbai well-oiled celebrity or Bollywood brat pack in the front rows. Mercifully, the `bling' variety seem to have given Delhi the slip (what with the design fraternity split against who is best and rife ramp politics leading to dysfunctional wardrobes hinted by `Vogue' magazine as intentional), flashbulbs are popping at the model on the ramp, the designer is getting a sound byte for all the hard work and all reigns well at the designer stalls with fresh talent serious about their creativity. From glad rags to jewellery designers (some very young and raring potential talent with bright futures and immense creativity), for fashion followers nine shows a day under a roof is too good a treat to miss, and Goan model wannabes with starry airs and egos in Goa could learn many lessons on the professionalism the industry seeks and demands for winners. Goan model Ignatius Camillo holds his head high as does Nolana D'Mello on the ramp, displaying a professionalism desperately needed by models in Goa who believe they are already the cat's whisker doing hotel shows. Unfortunately, I haven't met a single Goan designer yet at the fashion week, (Honies, constant exposure and upgradation of creative skills is the mantra to re-invention), except for fellow buddy, Dr Brian Mendonca who popped in to give me the first copy of his first book of poems `Last Bus to Vasco' to be released on April 16 at Vasco and Abel Sousa of `Sosa's'. In a simple T-shirt boldly screaming GOA and drawing attention to a lobby full of foreign branded bodies, Dr Mendonca had curious on-lookers walking up and telling us `Goa rocks' with a smile so bright it could put Mumbai's socialite Aarti Surendranath's diamonds to shame (is the Tourism Dept ready to back a fashion festival in Goa because designers are keen to come and we're raring to go to produce it?). Which makes me want to ask Dr Willy why Goa doesn't concentrate on producing a calendar of quality world-class events that could firmly put her as 'diva' of the entertainment universe. And while am on this, could I also know where did the Rs 15 lakh allotted to the Panjim Carnival Committee drain into for a shoddy show of entertainment sense? After all, we need value for money too. In the days of inflation every rupee counts. What say? _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- From: Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Goa's premiere mailing list,estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Advantages of a Portuguese Travel document Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Perhaps, India needs to get liberated as well. Failing that, perhaps, Goa Independence seekers like Gabriel F and Bernardo Colaco could form a grand alliance with regime change experts like Mario Guava and jointly push for a unified platform under the Goan Independence Clown Party. Marlon Marlon, You have sinned most grievously. The omission is glaring. How could you miss the GENERALISSIMO of the formidable National Liberating Army of Goa? Field Marshal Angelo Gomes, O Excelentissimo Paclo de Goa! Alfred _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Portugese rule ruined Jaffna: Historian
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Sri Lanka plus the Jaffna which the Tigers want to liberate are now associate members of the ACOLOP taking part in the first Lusofonia Games in Macau. BC - Original Message From: D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 April, 2006 11:19:07 AM Subject: [Goanet] Portugese rule ruined Jaffna: Historian goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Fwd: JESUS MAY HAVE WALKED ON ICE ,NOT WATER -STUDY
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- -- Forwarded message -- From: Araujo Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Apr 10, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: JESUS MAY HAVE WALKED ON ICE ,NOT WATER -STUDY To: goanet@goanet.org Here we go again, first its Judas did not betray Jesus, try surfing the website www.timesofindia.com and you will see the flashy animated stuff JUDAS...JESUS or DID JUDAS BETRAY JESUS then an articel Exclusive Gospel of Judas. A study in Miami states from the New TestamentJesus walked on Water while a Florida University professor believes there could be a less miraculous explanation -he walked on a floating piece of ice as his study found an unusual combination of water and atmospheric conditions in what is now nothern israel. which could have led to ice formation on the Sea of Galilee. The professor used records of the Mediterranean Sea's surface temperatures and statistical models to examine the dynamics of the sea of Galilee which israelis know now as lake Kinneret. The study found that a period of cooler temperatures in the area between 1,500 and 2,600 years agn could have included the decades in which jesus lived.A drop in temperature below freezing could have caused ice thick enough to support a human from on the surface of the freshwater lake near the western shore. Nof the professor of oceanography at Florida State University said it might have been highly impossible for distant observers to see apiece of Floating ice surrounded by Water. Nof offered his study--published in the April edition of the Journal of Paleolimnology- as a possible explanation for JESUS WALK ON WATER. He concluded saying If you ask me if i believe someone walked on water no i don't May be somebody walked on the ice I don't' know . I believe that something natural was there that explains it Just pray that we don't have to hear or read one day JESUS WAS NOT JESUS Araujo Jose _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] WHERE WOULD GOA RANK?
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1485543.cms Quality of life: Delhi catching up with Mumbai TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ TUESDAY, APRIL 11, 2006 12:03:48 AM] NEW DELHI: India's cities are moving up the global charts in terms of their quality of life and New Delhi is a particularly fast climber, having caught up for the first time with Mumbai as the country's most livable city. An annual survey of 215 cities all over the world ranks Mumbai and New Delhi joint 150th in quality of living, with Bangalore at rank 153 and Chennai at 160. That may not seem like much to cheer about, but three years back in 2003, the highest ranked Indian city at 156 was Mumbai, while Delhi was 162nd, just a notch above Chennai at 163 and below Bangalore at 159. Improved air, thanks to CNG, and better telcommunications facilities seem to have contributed to the better showing by Indian cities in the latest rankings, while Delhi is likely to have benefited also from the improvement in public transport brought about by the introduction of the Metro. These findings are from the annual quality of living survey conducted by human resource consulting firm Mercer. However, all four Indian cities have ranked lower than their Chinese counterparts. The five Chinese cities ranged from ranks 103 (Shanghai) to 147 (Shenyang). Several other Asian capitals apart from the obvious Tokyo (35), Singapore (34) and Hong Kong (68) are rated much higher than the Indian cities. Among these Kuala Lumpur, Taipei, Seoul, Tel Aviv, Bangkok, Manila, Colombo, Jakarta and even Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam at 148. As for India's neighbourhood, Islamabad at 158 squeezes in between the Indian cities, but Lahore (164), Karachi (171) and Dhaka (200) can't match any of the Indian metros in livability. The rankings for Indian cities have improved from last year, primarily due to India's improved political relationships with neighbouring countries,said Gangapriya Chakraverti, Business Leader, Human Capital Product Solutions at Mercer, India. Zurich ranks as the worlds top city for quality of living. It scores 108.2 points and is only marginally ahead of Geneva, which scores 108.1, while Vancouver follows in third place with a score of 107.7. In contrast, Baghdad is the lowest ranking city in the survey, scoring just 14.5 for obvious reasons. It's ranked the least attractive city for the third consecutive year. Almost half of the top 30 cities are in Western Europe. Vienna follows Zurich and Geneva in 4th position. Other highly-rated European cities include Dusseldorf, Frankfurt and Munich in positions 6, 7 and 8 respectively. Athens remains the lowest scoring city in Western Europe, scoring 86.8 at position 79. No American city is among top 10. Honolulu, is the highest ranking in US at rank 27. San Francisco is next at 28 while Boston, Washington, Chicago and Portland follow in positions 36, 41, 41 and 43 respectively. Overall, US cities continue to slip slightly or remain stable, except Chicago which improved 11 places due to decreased crime rates. - My guess is it would place somewhere between 80 and 100. (Any one know which are the cities in the survey in this bracket?) The problem is that unless there is some miracle in governance it is slowly but surely headed below the 100 mark i.e. between 100 and 150! I suppose that as long as it is just a step or two ahead of the top Indian cities it will continue to be a relatively attractive place in the country. Thank heavens for small mercies. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] SUNIL MORE DESERVES MORE ?
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- While the Chinkara nightmare haunts Salman Khan, the dismissed cop Sunil More gears himself to knock on the doors of the High Court against the order convicting and sentencing him to 12 years in jail and will have to keep his fingers crossed. A perusal of the voluminous and meticulously detailed watertight judgment by Judge K.U. Chandiwal indicates that it leaves no room for the convicted rapist to manoeuvre. The High Court may in fact go all the way in enhancing More's sentence to life imprisonment, a maximum punishment for the offence as currently prescribed by law. In Sunil More's case the reports of the medical experts establish that there was possibility of incomplete sexual intercourse, a term not defined even in a legal dictionary. With so many sexual offences being committed, perhaps the next edition of Webster's could lend us an helping hand in letting us know the parameters of the term. After the act, Sunil More allegedly consumed alcohol. Was it to toast a crime he so shamelessly committed or was it in sorrow that the job was incomplete? Aires Rodrigues Mumbai ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)