[Goanet] How many Goans are out there, really?
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org On 7/8/06, Frederick [FN] Noronha questioned: << . . .What is more important is who is a Goan -- how do we definewho a Goan is. . . .>> ANSWER: A Goan is a fellow patriot who has the exemplary foresight to defect overseas and then come down with a bout of incurable nostalgia Dom Martin --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Cute !
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Cornel was pilloried by Gilbert, i step in to cool things off, next thing you know --- It was not tabloids and, perhaps, you dont recognise him any longer, but i remember this lament on our forum : Polish arrivals demand white school teachers, assault non-whites, etc. This was followed by a plea, on Goanet no less, for both state and church intervention in the form of plan of education, to bring them in line with the thinking and ethos of ' a muticultural British society '. I dont intend to comment further on your plan to to educate church officials in the West about what you consider the prevailing system of racial prejudice amongst Goan catholics: I even wish you well. I hope my kin in Goa finally see the light of day, and are able to see you in a more kindly light. They no longer sell our kitty's favourite treat, Tender Vittles, but uncooked meat does just fine the little monster. If you do convince the Vatican to write off that sordid bunch you left behind in Velim, then i suppose we can ask George and Gabe and Merv and all the rest to work a liitle harder for our sudharop: Victor RRibeiro and i did our little bit when we met George today. The good folk in New Guinea have not known the blessings our cousins in Goa have enjoyed, and i am willing to see them share in the bounty of mission sunday collections out of London and New York. eric. --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Goa Needs highly qualified, clean. non-corrupt, efficient Parrikar as CM Now!.
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Dear Carmo, Oh! Not this old crap re-cycled again, please. Parrikar NEVER had a BJP-majority in the Assembly and NEVER could complete even one FULL term in Office as CM. the BJP could garner only 14 seats this time [down from 17 seats last time]. So why exactly do we need Parrikar now?? Mog asundi Miguel. From: "CARMO DCRUZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Goa Needs highly qualified, clean. non-corrupt. efficient Parrikar As CM Now ! Putting aside partisan politics, Goa needs the most highly educated CM the state or nation has ever had - IITian Manohar Parrikar as CM now. There is much talk at the center of him being called to Delhi to be the next Prime Minister of India because of his excellent credentials, organization skills and past performance as Goa Chief Minister. But India's gain will be Goa's loss. We need Manohar Parrikar to provide excellent, efficient, no-nonsense government to Goa once again at the earliest opportunity. The current government of Digamber Kamat is a do nothing, lame duck government. It needs to be overthrown and we need Manohar Parrikar in the CM post as soon as possible ! see below for the announcemet when he was first elected CM. IIT graduate is Goa chief minister Sandesh Prabhudesai in Panjim Bharatiya Janata Party's first chief minister in Goa, Manohar Parrikar, is also the first Indian Institute of Technology graduate to take over the reins of the tiny tourist state. The BJP has reached the seat of power only after roping in eight Congress defectors. This time, Sardinha is accusing him of backstabbing. Another challenge is that of completing the remaining three-and-a-half-year term without facing a revolt, which Goa has become accustomed to. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Now buy medicines with MRP Inclusive of all Taxes
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org - Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED, The time is come for the people of Goa to ORGANISE not AGONISE !! -- -- MRP Inclusive of all Taxes for medicines manufactured from 2nd October, 2006 *--* Government has issued notification S.O.NO.946 (E) dated 26.6.2006 directing all manufacturers of medicine to print Maximum Retail Price (MRP) Inclusive of all Taxes with effect from 2nd October, 2006. All medicines manufactured after 2nd Oct, 2006 are available in the marker at Maximum Retail Prices (MRP) (inclusive of all taxes). However medicines can be sold at a price lower than the MRP. Consumers are advised not to pay more than the MRP printed on the pack and always insist for a Bill /Cash Receipt from the Pharmacy. For any complaint or clarification, please contact The Director Directorate of Food & Drug Administration (FDA) Old IPHB Complex, Altinho, Panaji, Goa 403 001 Ph. 2220245 / 2430948. Copies of complaints may be sent to GOACAN Post Box 187, Margao 403 601 GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070709/82915c27/attachment.html --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Names of romanxi/books in Salcete Konkani
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org I am very much interested in reading romanxi (Konkani novels)/books written in Salcete Konkani. Could someone on this forum please provide me with a list of such books so I can buy them? Thanks in advance. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes, author of "Domnic's Goa - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era" Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA Tel: (966 3) 877-2744; Home: (966 3) 876-2676; Mobile: (966 5) 0281-9101 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Re. Ignatius Loyola
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org "cedrico dacosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Subject: [Goanet] Ignatius Loyola Ignorance or illetracy, there exists a jesuit run st ignatius de loyola high school at margao...im its alumini alfred tavares pl be informed regards cedric da costa dubai-uae ... Dears, Whatever the name of the Saint may be, the registered name of the Jesuit school in Margao is LOYOLA HIGH SCHOOL. Fr. William Rodrigues sj is the Principal/HM and Fr.Cedric Fernandes sj is the Vice-Principal. Both of them are alumni of the Jesuit school in which I studied, St.Britto High School, Mapusa...so named in 1946, a full four years before John de Britto was canonized as Saint!! If Cedric is an alumnus of Loyola HS, it would be nice if he joins its Alumni Association..LESA, the Loyola Ex-Students' Asociation in time for the feast of its patron saint on 31 July. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Goddacho Panv (amchem noxib)
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Watch the song live here.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=bXDcChFItVk or http://thisisgoa.com/view/091c2ab4c7c7de644d37 === "MOGACHEM TARUM" by the late Anthony Mendes Bexttench ragan chavon, kiteak vetai danvon Tujea mogan poi voitam hanv bavon Mogan zaitem baie ghoddta, kednaim hansta kednaim roddta Punn tem tuvem-hanvem sozmochem poddta Moga tum mojem sukh, moddta mogacho rukh Gopan astoch tum lagonam mhaka bukh Hacho mog kelolo porum, danvta koxem aka dhorum Doriean lotton voita mogachem tarum Painnean doloitam mhunnon bexttem mhuttlem Mog sozmonam poieat hem ragan ful'lem Dubav lagta hem konnaimkui punn bul'lem Hem mhaka fottovn-fottovn, kalliz tuttovn hath dakovn chol'lem Moga zalem tem zanv, mozo ghoddacho pão Mhaka soddxi tor jiv ditolom hanv Mhaka bhuloilolo forsan, mog zalolo gelea Marsan Azun povnk nam hanvem mogachi ghoddsan Rav gho sukha mojea, sorga velea anjea Kolsanv denvta poi sintimentan tujea Puro xikoilam tem lisanv, zogddim nakat koriea tensanv Devan ghatlea puro kurpechem bhesanv Mog tuzo assa mhunnon danvon ietam Zalem tem zalem sogllem visor atam Tuji khoxi kor sogllem sonsun ghetam Punn tuka fuddarachi rannim korun, raza hanv zatam. Best regards, Domnic [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://thisisgoa.com/ ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] LOYOA AT FOOTBALL
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org For those who might not know, Zena Costa (from Salcete) is the only Goan woman sports journalist, who has been active in reporting on many sports. She's currently writing a book, a biography of a top Indian footballer. Welcome Zena to Goanet, and we all look forward to your sports (and other) posts here. FN On 08/07/07, zena costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > A.F. > > For once I get to be the carrier of Good news. > Loyola High School ,Margao is doing exceptionally well > in football. Your alma mater has revived the ' good old > Rivalry of yore.'South v/s North(LOYOLA V/S DONBOSCO's > In actual fact, Loyola (with stiff competitors > Don Bosco's Panjim, are doing brilliantly at football-at ... -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm) A film on copyright! GOOD COPY BAD COPY: a documentary about the current state of copyright and culture. http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070708/3684b300/attachment.htm --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] CRIME OR DISEASE ?
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org I applaud Averthan for this excellent exposure of the thinning of the walls, so to speak, of our social/moral fabric, requiring drastic remedy such as tissue replacement surgery to strenghten the same before too long. I readily agree to every thing, every item, that Averthan has felt fit to mention in his write-up except for just one, i.e. 'adultery' I suppose that adultery takes place with the mutual consent between to persons of the opposite sex (or perhaps it is valid for the same sex?). Therefore, how does one punish adultery in terms of a crime? It is a fact that in olden times the adulteress used to be stoned to death. But I haven't read anything about the male adulteror ever having been stoned to death. Even this stonning to death of an adulteress was once stopped by none other than Jesus Christ, so the bible says. What I am talking here is the mutual consent or just consent. Salman Khan would probably go scot free if the pavement dwellers gave their consent for him to run them down. Otherwise it is a crime and nothing else. If one had sex with the next woman he met without her consent, it would be a 'rape' and he would go to prison. Prostitution, on the other hand, I would think, would be the same. There is mutual consent here and nothing can be done about it. Besides, prostitution has been around since the beginning of the world, I think, and it will never be stopped. In Istambul, Turkey, for instance, prostitutes are shown-off in show-cases in a particular street. How that is done in an Islamic country beats me. In Scandinavian countries, one never asks who one's father is. Only the mother is recognised for all purposes. Also, couples can live together as husband and wife without getting married and may have children too. Besides, the state handsomely compensates for producing more children. Higher the production, more the compensation. It is believed that in Austria, turkish people have become millionaires by just registering themselves in Austria and producing children. No work, no nothing. Not to deviate from the basic topic, I absolutely agree with Averthan in what he says. But the only remedy for this insane world to come to its senses is: each one of us to hit our heads against the rock, hard enough to draw blood. In my synopsis to the writ petition that I have filed in the Bombay High Court at Goa against the three marauding hotels in Calangute against CRZ violations left right and centre (which is ongoing), I have told the honourable justices that if the laws, rules and regulations which are framed are not implemented in earnest, then let these be disbanded altogether so that citizens may do what they like, when they like, with no one to ask. That the society at large should be left to decide if it wants to be on the side of the law or not. That, only then things will come into shape out of total chaos and lawlessness. To my mind, it cannot be any other way. Floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Averthan D'Souza > CRIME OR DISEASE ? > > Averthanus L. D'Souza. > > In the very recent past, strange things have been happening to people in > prominent public office. This, of course, is a reflection of the strange > things that are happening in society. It appears that society is losing its > ethical moorings and is beginning to drift. This drift is affecting not only > the political establishment, but is also becoming manifest in the legal > system, which, in many ways is the guardian of the social mores of any > society. If we look around us, we see clear signs of this ethical erosion. --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Religion and you
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Dear brothers and sisters We cannot afford to become agnostics.The presence of God is felt only when the earth turns against you .We tend to turn our eyes to wards God when we are helpless and we are in agony .The body has become weak and the blood does not flow. We are thrown into the dark tunnel and we see no light.Yet our faith that we will see light makes us to walk in the direction we think it is right and with this faith we keep on walking in the darkness for a long time and then suddenly we see a faint glow of light.We keep on marching for we know the faint glow will turn into a bright focus. This time we see brighter light and we really know that we have come to the end of the dark tunnel and as we still keep walk ing we see someone standing there and trying to reach his hand to hold ours and that is Jesus. Maim hoon nam? The problem with us is that we are overruled by egoism,greed and hatred.Criticism comes as an end product of egoism.Criticism comes when we think we are great. Glory should be given to God alone and if God wills it that glory will be passed on to you.Mother Theresa was the receiptant of Nobel Prize not because she was great person but because God had made her great.God wanted that glory should be given to her for her never ending service to humanity.It is useless cutting down people who write on the net.Everyone likes to be active members of the goanet. It is a public forum.Our system governing religious places is faulty.I have already highlighted the vacum in the system.This vacum in the catholic church does not make anyone as true disciples of Jesus Christ who did not follow any religion except the religion of love. albert _ Voice your questions and our experts will answer them http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/AskExpert/Default01.htm --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Goanet Postings
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Hi Goanet Posters, Bhandare is a Jekyll and Hyde personality OR he has passed his email id to his RSS friends to manipulate Goanet Posters at will. Eg. Childish mockery of Goans to Religious Gobledegook and then deny that he ever said any of it or involved; Selma said Jesus was a terrorist and an a trouble maker to I do not pick on Catholics. Joe. --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Corrupt India - not just Goa !
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org "Losers club" tried to derail Vodafone deal Sun Jul 8, 2007 1:22AM BST By Eric Auchard SANTA CLARA, California (Reuters) - Vodafone's top executive said on Saturday his hopes that India's regulatory bureaucracy has modernized was shaken by last-minute moves to derail his company's $11 billion (5.5 billion pounds) takeover of Hutchison Essar. Arun Sarin, the chief executive of global wireless operator Vodafone Group (VOD.L: Quote, Profile, Research), called for greater transparency in India's merger approval process to defeat backroom efforts by vested interests to manipulate India's political bureaucracy. "I really did not expect people -- the 'good and great' of India -- to be calling cabinet secretaries, ministers, to say, 'You have to unwind this deal, because we want a piece of it,'" Sarin told a conference of Indian business and academic leaders taking place in Silicon Valley this weekend Read full article @ http://uk.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUKN0724101120070708 -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Goa news for July 9, 2007
http://www.GOANET.org International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet Panaji, Goa, September 2-5, 2007 - http://www.indologygoa.in Online Media Partner: http://www.goanet.org Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Monday, July 9, 2007 (Deccan Herald) Portuguese Fado will be presented by Fado Goa, a group of accomplished singers and musicians from Goa-Sonia Shirsat, Miguel Cotta, Chantale Marie Cotta, Franz Schubert Cotta and Carlos Menezes at the Alliance Franaise auditorium on July 11. http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jul92007/metromon2007070811703.asp *** Goa to implement industrial policy, have new education policy: CM (New Kerala) Panaji, Jul 7: Chief Minister Digambar Kamat has favoured framing of a new integrated education policy right from the primary level to develop skilled manpower for the industry. http://www.newkerala.com/news5.php?action=fullnews&id=44902 *** New regional plan should be with peoples participation: Churchill (Navhind Times) Margao, July 8 Mr Churchill Alemao, the president of the Save Goa Front today told `The Navhind Times that the States new Regional Plan for 2011 should be drawn with the participation of the people. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070919 *** Governor, CM condole death (Navhind Times) Panaji, July 8 The Governor of Goa, Mr S C Jamir and Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat have expressed grief over the demise of the former Prime Minister of India, Mr Chandrashekhar. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070918 *** Goa lacks skilled manpower: CM (Navhind Times) Panaji, July 6 The Chief Minister, Mr Digambar Kamat today observed that Goa is devoid of skilled manpower which is required to run state-based industries. He also assured that the state industrial policy would be implemented soon "without any reservation". http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070712 *** Listen to the voice of Goas Charlie Chaplin (Navhind Times) The late Jacinto Vaz was a comedian with class. His comedy was humorous without being loud or crass. Just his appearance on the stage, would have the audience in titters. Not suprising, he was called Goas Charlie Chaplin. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070734 *** Movie Preview : Bombay To Goa (Indiafm via Yahoo! India News) Bombay to Goa is the story is about two lives ? Lal (Sunil Pal) and Das (Vijay Raaz). Lal is a very ambitious guy, a dreamer, who wants to become big in life and start his own business. http://in.movies.yahoo.com/070706/24/6hrou.html *** Bennett brother wants Goa link probed (Indian Express via Yahoo! India News) Malsai was the climax, but it was Goa where the story began," says Paul Bennett (42), brother of slain British tourist Stephen Bennett. Stephen, a tourist of British National was found murdered in Malsai village near Roha in Raigad district on December 11, 2006. A few days after his death, his mother Maureen revealed that her son had been calling her from Goa, stating that he feared for his life. ... http://in.news.yahoo.com/070705/48/6hr69.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [Goanet] Contacto Goa this sunday on RTPi
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Dear Nalini I thank you for informing me reg. the Contacto Goa programme. I saw it today at 13.00 Some comments: 1. Almost as usual the programme DID not start at 13.00 but some 12 minutes late!! but that I think it is a characteristic of the Portuguese people. : total lack of punctuality !! Here is story related to me by a member of the Portuguese Committe of Historians who had gone to TOQUIO for a meet of Luso Japanese History. Making fun of his own group he told me: "The Japanese group would arrive at the site of the meets two minutes before time, ,,,while we arrived twenty minutes later. In the evening we had a dinner party, After the drinks and snacks we were invited to the banquet hall> The Portuguese group being the guests, would rush to it on seeing all the Jap delicacies,The Japs would come later,.,,and find the table almost empty!!" 2.The first episode had nothing much for us locals, because it depicted a Goan restaurant like those which we have by the dozens. 3. Ditto the second: learning Portuguese with the Help of a Scrab.( if my spelling is correct).having studied Portuguese in the Escola Primaria, I dont think that it is the ideal method, even though one of the damzels said that within 24 hrs she would speak and write perfect Portuguese!!] . It appeared to me to be a "doctored' declaration of the girl ...and in English !! 4. The third Episode, O yes, just wonderful !! the "Banda da Musica" which we in Goa used to see in our Processions, weddings,and even...funerals. The last one which I attended,was that of Vasco Alvares who had given written instructions for it !! Those who knew him will recollect his always jovial personality. But...one of the musicians said that the "Bandas"were dead after the Portuguese had left. ! True, but not exactly that: the Brass bands vanished from the Goa musical panorama because other forms of music cropped up like musical groups with which they could not compete. And now, once a year we have the Indian Navy Brass Band giving concerts of Indian and Western Classical Music at the Kala Akademy. IF it comes in Nov,as generally done, I would like to sugggest to you to make an EPISODE of the event. One point which I did not find proper that you should interview Fr. Eufemiano Miranda, parish Priest of Santa Ines INSIDE the Church, You had done the same with our Vicar of Pangim, fully dressed for the Sunday Eucarist in Portuguese at 10.30.,in the previous series. One can film an Eucarist being celebrated, but interviews within the Church, I find objectionable. specially when it had nothing to do about the Church as such. Besides, you did not give a chance to the poor Vicar to say what he wanted: the camera focussed upon him 3-4 times, but hardly for 2 seconds, and Zoomed to some other subject. It is things like this, which belonged to our past folklore which I feel the 'contactos" should focus. Once you are in contact with RTPI please request them on my behalf: Yesterday around 20.50, I went to the TV to see the 21.00 news of NDTV. But as some mts were left I changed to RTPI: another programme about Porto ( repeated today ) was on at the end" "Contacto GOA: Amanhã " But amanha at what time ?!! Unfortunatelly this is a common feature of RTPI just like that of a announce programe starting later and NOT to the Dot of the time fixed. like BBC, CNN. Goa 365, NTDC. Star news,etc. Thanks once again and kind regards to you and to you partner,,,a Rego also !! FernandodoRego/ nalini souza wrote: "CONTACTO GOA" THIS SUNDAY, 8TH JULY ON RTPi "Contacto Goa" este domingo, dia 8 de Julho na RTPi Don't miss this Sunday, 8th July, on RTPi the fourth episode of Contacto Goa at 1pm (8:30am Lisbon time). FernandodoRego 143-Fontainhas.Pangim 403.001. GOA. INDIA TEL: 222. 6353
[Goanet] Sir Alfred de Loutulim et de la Suede
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org I totally agree with Santosh. Those who know Alfred well, or at least have heard of him from objective quarters (among whom of the latter I do not count my priest-uncle), will have heard of the many incidents in Alfred's chequered life that would make interesting Goanet reading. I would encourage people like Alfred, Eric Pinto and the scores of others who come to mind but whom I cannot name for reasons of brevity, to regale us from time to time with details of their many life-adventures that would undoubtedly provide us with lighter moments on Goanet. There were in 1961 at the time of Goa's liberation/annexation, a bunch of spirited lads, many from well-to-do families, for whom December 1961 was a defining moment to undertake a sea-change in their lives. They went in semi-formal groups departing Goan shores as stowaways on merchant ships, TAIP (Transportes Ares da India-Portuguesa) aircraft and by other adventurous means, many landing on distant shores without any game-plans. They went without the blessings of their parents, ending up mostly on European shores, living hand-to-mouth as dish washers in Paris, apprentices in German factories, seamen on ferries plying Norwegian fjords, and even kitchen help in Swiss chalets (the real chalets, not the American franchise chain). From then on, quite a few emigrated to British and North American lives. They have to a man, prospered, married well, and have lovely sons and daughters many of whom must be having nary an inkling of the tremendously exciting lives their paters lived. Especially when they are told by their Dads from the comfort of a big Toronto suburban home "OK Denise you may go to France for a holiday, but here are your travellers cheques and here's a cellphone with which I expect you to keep me posted daily about your well-being". If only their children knew. Cheers, Roland. On 7/7/07, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Cornel, > I think you misunderstand Alfredchacha. What you see > is neither pomposity nor arrogance. It is simply the > pixyish emulation of old English wordsmiths such as > William Evart Gladstone, Gilbert Keith Chesterton and > George Bernard Shaw. From what I know of his youth his > affinities lie squarely among selfless satyagrahis, > cuttichhaap (penniless) Konknniche mogi, Khaadi-clad > Gandhians, and perhaps, harijans as well. He is the > last of the Mohanicans (friends of my idealistic uncle > Mohan).
[Goanet] Architecture : A serious look at Dar`s face
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org http://www.ippmedia.com/ipp/observer/2007/07/01/93589.html Architecture : A serious look at Dar`s face 2007-07-01 09:12:55 By Lucas Lukumbo The just premiered documentary of Dar es Salaam\'s architectural heritage `Many words for Modern`, has sparked off criticisms from both architects and the public at large, saying the film has focused more on negatives of the country`s architectural outlook than its positives. Staff Writer Lucas Lukumbo reports on the response the film received from viewers. `Many words for Modern`, a tantalizing documentary by Jord den Hollander which was premiered this week, chronicles the architectural heritage of Dar es Salaam using Anthony B. Almeida, one of the first Tanzanians to introduce the new architecture in the country. The documentary however drew fire from its critics, saying its has failed to fulfill its objectives in documenting Tanzania`s pursuit for modernity both in architecture and contemporary urban life. A prominent architect in urban design, Bernard J. Chagula, told a panel discussion on the film that it has vividly shown negative aspects of the country, arguing that more time of the documentary has been used to film slum life and the bad side of the Tanzanian architecture. ``It is very unfortunate that half of the time in the film is spent showing the negative side of us. Slums have featured prominently,`` Chagula who is also Estate Manager at the Dar es Salaam Institute of Technology (DIT) told the panel. `` This is typical of films directed by Europeans on Africa. The film has not shown the good side of the Dar es Salaam environment,`` he retorted. He said the timing of the filming was also bad, ``as the film maker has chosen the rainy days of all days to film the documentary with a negative aim of showing how filthy the city is.` He also said that Kariakoo market, the largest in Dar es Salaam poorly featured in the documentary saying that the chief character, Anthony B. Almeida, was not given enough time to explain on the glamorous structure. ``What we observed was a good footage of the filth surrounding the market as if there were no other good surroundings,`` he noted with concern. Another expert, a lecturer at the University College of Lands and Architectural Studies (UCLAS) Kamugisha Byabato, had this to say, ``Do not call what you have filmed in the documentary as modern. The documentary is typical of misrepresentation of Africa\'s good image.`` There was also Professor Lussuga Kironde of UCLAS who said the film has not addressed the issue of overcrowding of people in the Dar es Salaam houses which he said was an issue in the construction industry. He also said that there were no local architectural values in the documentary which could give a view of the of national architectural models. The architect also wondered why the film had not shown the impact of Almeida`s expertise on other professionals saying, ``we should be glad to be shown how other architects have emulated Almeida\'s works.`` The expert also said the documentary lacked a footage on the effects of rampant shortage of electricity and water in Dar es Salaam on architecture. It did not also address the question of empty spaces in Dar es Salaam. ``All in all the country`s cultural identity was not manifested in the documentary,`` he said. There were however others who said the documentary has to a great extent managed to address many modern architectural aspects in the country. The President of the Architects Association of Tanzania, Subira Mchumo, said that the film has shown that Tanzanians could also be making their own films as many of the characters featuring in the documentary were prominent Tanzanian architects. They include Anthony B. Almeida, Beda Amuli, Nuru Inyangete, Joe Horould and Daniel Mbisso. The Vice-Chairperson of the Zanzibar International Film Festival (ZIFF), Fatma Alloo, says the film has made it possible for Tanzanian architects to recognize their place in the world of modern architecture. The Chief Executive Officer of ZIFF, Dr Martin Mhando, said the film will be one of the films featuring in this year`s Zanzibar International Film Festival during the Dhow Countries Festival starting June 29. The Director of the documentary Jord den Hollander has termed the criticisms he has received from viewers as developmental. He said as a foreigner he has tried his best to develop a positive image of the modern architecture in the country with the help of Tanzanian experts. ``If I have not fulfilled the objective
[Goanet] VICTORIA TO HEAD KTCL
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org In a humiliation of sorts the septugenarian four time lone women MLA of the Indian National Congress from the Santa Cruz Assembly Constituency will now have to reluctantly accept the office of Chairman of the State run Kadamba Transport Corporation Ltd. Ironically this "gift" comes to the now recuperating Ms Fernandes after her three day fast ordeal and ahead of her seventy third birthday (26th Jul) from the CM Digambar Kamat with an assurance that the loss running undertaking " will receive his personal attention " meaning that there will be an "outflow of funds to revive the ailing sector" and no interference from any quarters. This also seems to be the conditional compromise on the denial of Cabinet status agreed upon by the voters of her constitutency. But many argue that this is indeed a humiliation to the lone women who emerged successful in the last hustings from among several otherwomen of different political parties who failed to make it. Moreover this is a demotion of sorts, for the rebellious women who has become an icon of women in the State. Be it the opinion poll of 16.1.1967, the Konkani language agitation the Town and Country Planning ordinance the Regional Plan 2011 Ms Fernandes demonstrated in her own inimitable style either by presenting a memorandum to the President of India in the august Goa legislative Assembly protesting the draconian ordinance on TCP or by staging dharnas even while holding the post of a Deputy Speaker to protect the interests of Goa and Goans. The four time MLA held Cabinet Minister status for two terms, later a Deputy Speaker and now finally a post of Chairman of KTCL which comes under the Minister of Transport Mr Pandurang Madkaikar junior MLA who made to the Cabinet rank (only owing to his defections and his ST status0. This is no way the INC ought to have treated Ms Fernandes its lone women especially in the year when a precedent of sort is being set in the worlds second largest populated country with the certain election of the first women President of India a Marathi speaking advocate turned politician and now Governor of Rajasthan Ms Pratibha Patil (she speaks only a spatter of English and Hindi ). Even the US of America did not have a women President not even a Vice President until one may make it later next year. The KTCL is the worst corporation that any MLA would accept unless one intends to plunder it of its meagre resources while the commuters bear the brunt. It is a corporation where the staff and its workers draw heavy salaries owing to the V Pay Commission. There is no accountability. The Board of Directors had made a record of sorts last fiscal year 2006-07 by indulging in freebies like the much fancied "pilgrimage package tours" at concessional rates for their voters. There are a number of disciplinary proceeedings against the workers of the KTCL and also the top officials. The recent one involved the VOLVO bus airconditioned luxury buses episode where the costs overheads of "repairs and maintanence" got the Government to set up an enquiry into the gross losses. Then there is the spares and tyres racket. Most of the buses on intrastate routes are rickety. It is the buses that are pressed on the interstate routes that are worthy of travel. Obviously the KTCL would not intend to risk the damages they may have to pay for the Inter state routes operations which is on an interstate reciprocal basis. But the woes of the commuters are many. Endless Q's for the much fancied "shuttle" service at any given time ---the Margao KTCL displays a gross mismanagement in Traffic control. The unclean chaotic bus stands at Margao Mapusa Ponda Panaji. Beleive it or not there is now a Managing Director an IAS to set right the working of the KTCL but there is no professional available with the KTCL in the transportation sector who could work out the logistics of an efficient transport system. Most of the drivers and conductors are alcoholic "gutkha" chewing some deserve a Voluntary Retirement or a golden handshake to spruce up the ailing KTCL. Even at the time of filing this post there is news of KTCL bus turning upside down injuring over 21 passengers. Earlier two "shuttle" services met the same fate a week ago. Ms Fernandes would now have to take up the challenge of turning the KTCL into a profit running efficient system. It is no mean excercise but given that Mr Laloo Prasad Yadav a "dehati" without the knowledge of Management sciences has turned the Indian Railways into a profit making in
[Goanet] How many Goans are out there, really?
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Someone recently wrote on Goanet: "There are over 12000 families and individuals of Goan origin living in Victoria besides many other people of Indian origin" As you probably know, a lot of discussions on Goanet spin off into off-the-list discussions. Cecil posted me a query, which simply copied those two lines, and had, as its subject-line: "Is there any way to confirm this statistic?" Which meade me think. My skeptical reply to Cecil, with a cc to Bosco D'Mello (also cc'ed earlier for some reason) said, inter alia: "Ask the guy who made it. Often these figures are boasts, and may not tally with reality. I've heard 60,000 Goans in Lisbon (more than in Panjim), 100,000 in Mumbai pre-1961 (when Goa's population was 600,000), 10,000 in Toronto, 10,000 in Karachi at one time, and so on." And, if you'd forgive me for quoting myself, I went on to add: "But then, Churchill Alemao claims tourism gives 300,000 Goans jobs (this was in the early 1990s!), and Miguel will tell you how statistics are manufactured in the Agriculture Department." Bosco had his own take on the subject. (And while I'm getting some free publicity, please let me comment that I *don't* call myself FRED ... had to use this in email addresses for technical reasons since the mid-nineties ... and that I unsuccessfully tried to change the way Bosco addresses me, but that's another issue.) He wrote: "I think the figure could be higher...just like Fred's 10,000 in Toronto. What is more important is who is a Goan -- how do we define who a Goan is. Lets assume for a while here that there are 12000 Goan families in Victoria. I can assure you several thousands of them are second and third generation Goans who have assimilated into Australian society and there must be very little of Goa left in them -- not physically but mentally and intellectually." He gave an example of someone he had himself run into: "At the beer break I met the Goan guy and asked him if he was from Goa. He said "Yes". I asked him where he was from. He said "Saligao". I said I had a cousin married there and where was he from Saligao.He responded.."somewhere on the hill"...I asked him when did you go to Goa last. He responded.."Never". I said to him.."You should go sometimes, at least before the hill disappears".and we laughed it off." So, to come back to the point: how many Goans do you think are settled in different cities or parts of the globe, outside of Goa (including in the rest of India)? May I add that for me, this is an academic issue. I'm not that chauvinistic about number, and 'strength-in-numbers' or 'we-are-getting-subsumed' theories. I'm also fairly flexible on definining who a "Goan" is. Now, please don't turn around and tell me I'm contradicting myself -- by asking how many Goans there are globally, and by being very flexible on the definition of "Goan" at the same time. As I said, it's just out of curiosity that I ask. My belief is that Goa has long been, and will probably continue to be, a melting pot, a fruit-salad or a South Asian goulash (should we say 'khatkhatem' from the world of Saraswat cooking?) Your thoughts please? Provocatively yours, FN -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm) A film on copyright! GOOD COPY BAD COPY: a documentary about the current state of copyright and culture. http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/
Re: [Goanet] If Cornell Does Really Care !
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hi Eric Just a couple of things: 1. I could see no connection at all between what I had said in a very polite reply to Jerry about his reference to "twisted minds"and your response to it. Please can you clarify? 2. You refer to hordes from Eastern Europe in the UK. I put it to you that you really must be reading material from the much derided UK tabloids with a consistent record of anti-immigration rhetoric in order to sell papers to those with a reading age of about 10. The facts are that there have been substantial numbers coming to the UK as of right, mainly from Poland, because of the expansion of the EU. Yet, there is a desperate shortage of labour here. For instance, vegetables and fruit (especially strawberries) are currently rotting because of a lack of pickers. They are not even available from Bulgaria and Romania presumably because upward labour mobility consequent to open access to the UK is making it difficult to get workers at the bottom end of the labour market. While there is plenty of work of all kinds, the poor guys from Eastern Europe are having to struggle over accommodation. Did your tabloid reading tell you that some have taken to sleeping in public toilets and also that the Polish Government has had to help thousands of their fellowmen who are desperate and depressed that their dream of plentiful money has not materialised in the UK and are consequently being resettled back in Poland? And yes, I have established myself here through brain power and sheer hard work and I hope you are also achieving something likewise in New York. 3. Your reference for [enlightenment] to the bishops in New Guinea is too opaque for me to figure out. While I note your occasional quips on Goanet, I am sure many of us would appreciate something at least a little coherent and substantive from you instead of vague one-liners. Please will you try to do this now that you have safely returned from Oyster Bay--the place I had once loved outside Dar es salaam? Good wishes Cornel PS Your subject heading of "if Cornel Does Really Care!" is also totally lacking in being informative in any conceivable way. Can you kindly throw some light on what you had in mind? And re "vittles", did you correctly mean victuals? eric pinto wrote: Funny thing, i don't want to imagine our site without either Gilbert or Cornell, although heaven help, sanctissima Afra is back ! Things dont happen in a vacuum, and if Gilbert should ask around, he will learn about the social scene of our crowd in East Africa in the early decades of the century that just ended. Perhaps it was a natural in a colonial set up that required a pecking order, and we filled in the gaps eagerly, but mean is mean, and Tony Barros/Cornell have expanded on the subject in the past. i gather that Cornell has seen recompense over a fruitful career in Britain. If at all, i picture deja vu all over again for him with the arrival of hoardes of Slavs in London. and i imagine those nice folk are going to keep Cornell pretty uneasy in the years ahead. And now to the real point : Goa/Goans need the vittles [ did you mean victuals?] that flow our way from western diocesan collections. Every last person enjoys the benefits, religion or looks aside. Cast in a bad light, it is just as easy for Cornells bishop's to consider looking at New Guinea instead. eric.
Re: [Goanet] Caveat Complainers.
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hold it, Gabe - males, perhaps, not women, and not my Gal ! I have the Virginia address for the two agents, also revealed by Barrons', strangely. Eric. Gabe Menezes wrote: On 08/07/07, eric pinto wrote: RESPONSE: Very, very interesting; now it will be, only a matter of time, before they start rounding up RSS sympathizers ?
[Goanet] Konkani Tiatr
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Re: [Goanet] We Need to take care of our retired priests !
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org We have to establish a pension / retirement home type of system for our retired secular priests. We cant leave them to fend for themselves in their old age after they have spent a lifetime serving the parishes of Goa. Thanks Albert for exposing this situation. Best Regards, Carmo -- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:32:59 + From: "Albert Desouza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Religion and beliefs To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I do not criticise any person but our system.While walking along the road you see a poor beggar all dirty and looking at you for some money or food or a lame person who cannot walk and needs help.Your son is studying in the school.He cannot study mathematics and science and is helpless though he is good with his hands but the world recognises him as useless fellow.We have priests working with us. Specially the secular priest.Some of them are under privedged as they are posted as chaplains or vicars of churches situated in remote areas. You visit these churches and you find the priests all alone and has to cook for himself, clean for himself,etc.His income is very low. He has to do everything by himself. Take for example the church of Badem after Assagao. It is situated right on the top of the hill and no soul within one kilometer/. Take example of the; church at Torsem on the way to Dodomarg. The church did not have a toilet .It was only when the; church was handed to the Paloti fathers and a certain priest was posted there he constructed toilets by literally begging for alms.Many of the priest due to old age are sick. Most of them have diabetes. Even though they have completed sixty five sometimes they are never retired.Some of them do not have anything to rely on at their old age.I met an old priest .He was sick and there was no one to help him.He could barely walk to visit a house which supplied him for food. He even ;had to spend the night all by himself. Lonely .His room is dirty as he himself has to clean it and his sickness has made him dull. For many years he had served the church and its people with dedication without thinking about himself.Their salary does not match the work they do. Neither the people are interested in these sort of priest or the church itself. Our system is not the right type of system. Now my dear goanetters open your heart and mind and speak on this rotten system of ours.Whom shall we blame? Albert, glena,Carmo, or Bhandare? albert
Re: [Goanet] Yard stick for CM not white stick.
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hei, Let me say at the outset that I do not know who the CM's are or have been in Goa nor do I much care. What I see is what I see on the ground when I visit goa. Well, Goa has progressed inspite of the goa administrations maybe. My personal yard stick for measuring the achievement of any CM is simple. Bring back our small lovely towns to the standard they were when the Portuguese were driven out. When I was young and impressionable I recall when I first saw my local town of Mupuca. I remember it as a beautiful town. All the buildings were freshly painted, the roads were clean and tidy, passageways and shops were bright and organised. The people too made the place vibrant and friendly. The restaurants and teashops were exciting places to relax, meet people, chat and gossip as is a goan want. The cakes and service was memorable at C De'souza I recall. The town was alive and sparkled. Friday market day was a "buzz day" full of excitement and promoise each week every week. Mupuca was a "wish you were here" place to be. In short our towns had atmosphere and something one could be proud about. I am not a portuguese fan but I think their administration had something to do with it. Having bright well maintained town centres provided a window dressing to Goa which belied a country in neglect. Panjim too was great but I loved Mapuca more. Remember, my mental map of goa covered meerly my father's and mother's villages, the sea and river fronts in Bardez and the two towns Mapuca and Panjim. I was young and impressionable and I felt I belonged to Goa. I thought I would give my children that same experience of belonging to Goa when I took them on a visit. They loved it at the village. They loved it in the country side. They absolutely hated it in Mupuca. I tried to pump up Mapuca's image telling them of how it was in its glory days. They would have none of it. They put their feet down when any mention was made of going into Mapuca. They said it stank annd I can confirm that it did and still does. I lost my battle with my children because I knew deep down that I agreed with them and they were telling me like it was as children no older then 7 and 10. Unfortunately, they still think the towns of goa are no better then open sewers. And polite foreigners I have no doubt think so too. That cannot be good. The towns are an eyesore and a blot on the landscape. It reflects the utter mindlessness of the goa administrations over the years. I think that any CM with a head on his shoulders would immediately realise that a blitz on our towns would make him a Star overnight. And it does not have to cost the administration much. The onus has to be on the property owners to get their property up to scratch by law. There has to be some form of town planning involved too to ensure that the whole town is under the scope. It may even be necessary to put in a toll charge to curb the traffic. With all the revenue pouring into goa any achievement in the country side is diminished by the appalling state of our towns. To have allowed our towns to degenerate into slums has been a tragedy for all and not only for goa but for all goans home and away. Our towns are small and tiny. Any CM who cannot get our towns back to their former glory or better should be shooed off. You have to be blind to recognise that our towns are in a terrible state of neglect. Our yard stick for measuring the character of our CM should be "is he for town dwellers or slum dwellers". Wnen our towns can be places to be proud of, then it will want to know who we have for CM. I am sure you would too.
[Goanet] online group on Bicholim formed
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Re: [Goanet] Selma's selective secularism/to Bosco
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hi Gilbert If you find Goanet postings somewhat irritating, please ignore them or use your delete button. What you shouldn't do, as you so often do, is imply that you are somehow, the barometer of the irritation threshold or that your posts are perfectly acceptable on the Goanet menu. Let me also remind you of a famous author (perhaps it was Salman Rushdi) who said that, nothing is worth writing about if it will not irritate anyone. I have retained the posts below so that Goanetters get a good flavour of this discussion. Cornel DaCosta Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Dear Selma from Cowtown, USA; and Bosco from Hogtown, CA If you-guys are serious, try real self-flagellation with a knotted rope and kneeling on a bed of nails. OK guys and dolls! Stop the self-flagellation. Purro tumchem pirachit. Going out to pasture as punishment is better than a horse retiring to stud. I would take that any day.:=)). So too, would I take, "sarcasm, wit, ire, irritations and sensitivities" and metaphors etc.. And definitely prefer them to insensitive, deceitful, innuendo posts AIMED SOLELY and REPEATEDLY to embarrass and vilify others. I hope most writers and readers know when that line is crossed. Kind Regards, GL ---Bosco from Hogtown, CA wrote: That may irritate some other people, too!! That's Goanet for you - can't please all the people all the time, some you can't please at all *smirk*. So where were we - sarcasm, wit, ire, irritations and sensitivities - try slipping that Russell Peters DVD into the Home Theatre and sit back and laugh!!- --- Selma from Cowtown, USA wrote: I honestly don't think I deserve this. I am not being any more or any less irritating or insensitve than most posters on this forum. I have quiet a few people who write to me and tell me that they enjoy my postings. However if I am, then I shall put myself out to pasture and save everyone the irritation.
Re: [Goanet] Cornel's long awaited comeback
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hi Cornel, Thanks for your post. From the first paragraph in your recent response (see below), it would appear that your remarks to the Catholic Cardinal of London (see below from your prior post) were not really true. You mean to say you actually "fotti matha" to of all persons the Cardinal of London? Ok, he is not the Anglican Arch-bishop of Canterbury. Do you know people have gone to the Tower of London for confusing the Archbishop of Canterbury? Back to your contradictory statements, this disconnect raises a lot of questions. Like your friend across the pond, please do not come up with some lame explanations. Or Bommaim amchem tempar munta "cockamamie excuses".:=)) Did you have this term in Nairobi? As to the remainder of your post, it is the same old ... same old.:=)) Additionally, you have shifted from "caste among Goans" to "Gilbert's views ". Thanks for giving much consideration to my views and for telling me what I am saying. Yet just because you and a few others make a claim, it does not become a statement of fact. Remember Goebels, stated (to the effect) "lie often enough and soon, it will be accepted as truth". Bhandare gave you a pretty good summary of the issue of caste in India and Goa. I suggest you stick with that in your IP (International Paper). You in turn will provide Bhandare ample material for his writings or for the RSS web site. To what Bhandare said, I may add, for the benefit of the Goan victims, that any discrimination (caste, religion, economic, social status, region, state of origin, skin color, hair texture, beauty etc.) is overcome through education, hard work and job mobility. All Indians have access to all of them. The Catholic Church has been in the forefront of education irrespective of the above discriminatory factors. While caste considerations undoubtedly exists in India, Goa and in the West, many use this excuse (victims of discrimination) in Goa, India and the Diaspora for not working hard and progressing up the academic and economic ladder. The next generation of "lower caste Goans" are / will be the school and college dropouts, and again we will see national and international papers terming it discrimination. Kind Regards, GL CORNEL DACOSTA Let me provide a brief response to you in your mistaken view that somehow Catholic Goan caste matters afflict places like the UK. Thankfully, they barely do if at all. CORNEL DACOSTA However, I did get a chance to have a five minute conversation with the Cardinal in a one to one situation. He expressed much praise, to me, for the Catholic Goans in London. But I did put him right by disclosing, to his seeming astonishment, but clear understanding, that many Catholic Goans carried caste racism in their hearts and minds.
Re: [Goanet] The religion of Love
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Kevin Saldanha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is procreation the only reason for marriage and > thus, should childless couples be forced to > divorce? Kevin, I think Ellen Key (1849- 1926) came up with the answer a long time ago. Here are her words. "Love is moral even without marriage, but marriage is immoral without love." Merv Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
[Goanet] UTT GOENKARA CONDEMNS ATTEMPT TO MURDER MARGAO SOCIAL ACTIVIST
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[Goanet] LOYOA AT FOOTBALL
ss seven, Salgaocar Sports Club in the u-14 team , The Ministry of External Affairs; Govt. Of India who have issued the boy a valid passport and Goa Police Force who cleared the same. The organisers would have to establish that ALL the above are in the wrong and thus age –cheats if GOA is to accept the Meldon D'silva is not 12 years old. There is absolutely no question as of now, in Goa that Meldon is over age as all the above have been checked and his date of birth stands at 17th NOVEMBER 1994 as registered by the GFA and an appeal has been made to Vision India Director Shaji Phrabakaran.That he is looking into the matter is positely hope that a young football dream will not be killed. zena costa/Navhind Times/24th December 2006 FOLLOW-UP MELDON IS INNOCENT:Dr.SHaji Phrabakaran is Santa 25 December 2006 Dr Shaji Prabhakaran is known to be a fair and ethical administrator and on xmas he brought in the goodies. speaking to this wrter affirmed that bone density isnt full proof ,so and mri would be conducted asap. he informed late evening of 24th December. Speaking from Chennai Phrabakaran on 25th December 2006 he affirmed "Meldon was innocent and will play in the Goa match tommorow.Goa finished runners -up losing 0-1. Loyola high SCHOOl'S Goa Captain, Brendon Fernandes emerged the top scorer,(13 GOALS)and player of the Tournament. His neighbour and fellow Loyolite Meldon now 'innocent' (missed two matches) but went on to score TOO -- Forwarded message -- From: AF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 8, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: [Goanet-sports] sports To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am interested in the soccer happenings at Loyola High school, Margao, I played for Loyola, represented the school in the Subrota Cup and the All-Goa School tournament, ( I may have the names of the tournaments wrong. This was long time ago, in the mid and late '70's). How is the school doing lately? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-sports-goanet.org/attachments/20070708/41b3c73a/attachment.htm ___ Goanet-sports mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Christianity revisited for the last time?
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hei, Is there some reason why Christianity is brought up ad-infinitum in almost every topic in goanet-request? Come on, it is about time we stop bringing up christianity or any religious belief system into topics for serious discussion. No wonder we spend so much time chasing our own tails unless of course we want to confuse the cats. The christian faith has a chequered history. Christianity has slept with apartheid, the final solution, murder and pillage, money laundering, doggy popes and clergy in rome let alone goa. And these are just the servants of God. God himself/herself has changed a bit. He appears to be less omnipresent and less into 1:1 communication or even mobile phones. His nature too appears to have changed a bit from a merciless God of the old testament ( you could be forgiven for not knowing the punishment disobeying god for simply turning your head round. A crime punishable to being turned into a pillar of salt or salt lick.) to a forgiving God of the new testament at the stroke of a pen. I dare say King Herrod passed away peacefully in his sleep even after crucifying the son of god. Frankly, I really don't much care either if he did or not. It appears that the more incredible a yarn the more likely it is to have takers. Religion has a wonderful way of being associated to anything however irrelevant or accommodating anything however subverse. What is more to the point is that as a belief system religion has nothing to do with serious topics like Education, Science, Politics, Economics, Social System let alone Goan Christian Goalkeeping paradigm shift. lol. When catholics were worried about going to war to the Falklands on the grounds that it was not "justified". Cardinal Hume promptly gave his blessing to the war to catholics in the UK with the statement that the war was "justifiable". :) so keeping faith with the protestant christian. I have known the Irish catholic clergy charge Africans, the very people who could least afford it money to receive Holy Communion. White catholics were reserved front pews. The compliant and subservient goans went along with it all to secure a place with God no doubt. hahaha. The bottom line is that with christianity anything goes. Just what is amazing is that people need any belief system. Well, in my view those who need religion should feel free to keep it. Those who do not should give it a wide berth. And please lets not confuse the issue of associating religion with serious topics. We would not be goans if we were not allowed our time honoured hypocrisies and our hypocrites. hahaha. On 7/7/07, rui nuvo wrote: Re: Wanted - Abscondees from Goa Archives. Hei, I was amused. lol. especially the case of the ubiquitous Sitarams spiriting 6000 bags of rice and living it up in Goa. He could be the same Sitaram's relation who con me into giving me into giving him the bus fare for meeting up with me again with information and never showing up. Well, the cases quoted simply confirm my deeply held belief that goans are Petty Thieves at best and pretty incompetent at it too. They get caught. If you really want to see theft then watch empire builders and the media they control where theft is equated to "interests".
Re: [Goanet] We Need Manohar Parrikar as CM of Goa !
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org We Need Manohar Parrikar as CM ! Digamber Kamat will not do anything for Goa ! We need IITian Manohar Parrikar back in the saddle as CM ! Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: airesrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] LIGHTEN OUR DARKNESS To: goanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Chief Minister Digambar Kamat may have all the tactful and diplomatic skills but the power supply situation in Goa has not improved in spite of him being at the helm of the Power Ministry for over six years. Constant power failures and voltage fluctuations in spite of all the so called upgrading of the infrastructure is a matter of concern. Is one to presume that all the transformers, feeders and cables being installed are sub-standard? Over the last few years I have had to wake up the ever so obliging Digambar Kamat in the early hours of the morning to complain about power failures. Even last week I had to pick up the phone after midnight and Digambar as usual was very polite.I had probably not disturbed his sleep as he was himself having sleepless nights cobbling the cabinet expansion. In Digambar Kamat's bio data on the Goa Information Department web site it states that his special interest is ?helping needy people?. Please give us the uninterrupted light we desperately need though we are fully aware that politicians prefer to operate under the cover of darkness. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar
[Goanet] Re. Hit and make approach to Konkani vocabulary
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Mogall Miguelbab, Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your views. But I could not agree to the view that the poor, uneducated, kas'sachi nov-vari sari clad fisher women of Harmal etc. say tis ani ek because they *cannot differentiate between un-tis and ektis*. [By the way, the Konkani word is ekunn-tis which becomes un-tis in Hindi]. I am sure they say and understand pavunn-tin (a quarter less than three); and not convert it to don ani tin chovantte (two and three fourths). If they can understand pavunn- as pav unnem I dont see how they cannot correctly interpret ekunn- as ek unnem. But it is their *business sense* which makes them to strive to better communicate with their valued clientele which uses tis ani ek; I am sure they dont use this type of terminology to communicate among themselves. I know doctors (in Cuncolim) who have learnt Kannada in order to be able to communicate with their patients drawn from the Kannadiga labour class. But these doctors do not converse in Kannada among themselves. Arent we converting a necessity into a virtue? Should we not treat these words as "colloquial" and not suitable to be used in FORMAL writing"? I would agree with you that ag-gaddi [and also ag-bott (steamer)] were brought by Bomboikars. But I doubt they were influenced by Marathi; it is more likely to be Gujrati and Hindusthani with which they were more familiar. [These words are found in Gujrati as well]. I say this because even in the early 1960s, I did not hear Marathi being spoken in Dhobitalao where most Goans have resided; the language of communication in the market-place was Hindusthani (much akin to the Hindi I had learnt at school in Goa) and Gujrati. [This included the fisherfolk who are Marathi-speaking Kolis.] I never felt the necessity of learning Marathi for the entire duration of my residence in Mumbai. It is only now (after the arrival of the Shiv Sena on the scene) that Marathi is heard everywhere. I learnt Gujarati before I did Marathi because I was doing my field-work in rural Gujarat. I learnt Marathi only later (in late seventies), by speaking with Maharashtrian peons in my College. But ag is not exactly alien to Konkani; we have an indigenous word agttem (furnace). Although you said in jest that Bardezkars (Bardezkarns as well!) like things feminine, the statement does seem to conform to facts; foreign words are generally assigned the feminine gender. But this tendency is found in all the northern dialects, Antruzi more than Bardexi. It is also a trait they share with Marathi, where this propensity is even greater. We do use ponntti in Salcete, though not for a kerosene lamp, but for an oil-lamp made of clay or stone. The container has a beak (as in a beaker) or a groove which supports the wick made of cotton. Such ponntteo (made of stone) are commonly found at the foot of village crosses where one may go with some oil and cotton wicks and light lamps for whatever intention. Disposable ponntteo are made of shells especially for illuminating ones frontage or compound wall when the procession of St. Sebastian passes by, in January. On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, "Miguel Braganza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > My source of information on Thomas Stephens sj in Vasco [in a chapel > where the St.Andrew's Church now stands] is Fr.Nascimento ascarenhas > [Diocesan priest now in Clergy home, and author of a book on ormugao] > who has researched on the subject. TS might have been at Rachol, too. > I would agree with you if the "tis ani ek" was the terminolgy of the > people from Borda-Margao or Fontainhas and Altinho of Panaji. When > the fisher woman from Harmal [Arambol] and Morje[Morjim] or Bannavle > [Benaulim] say "tis ani ek" I must admit it is used for the > convenience of persons who who cannot remember the difference between > "un-tis" and "ek-tis" or words like "tre-ottor" or "Xeap'pon". I > fully agree with you that the system of 'trinta e um' or 'trente et > un' are European, not indigenous to us. Should we deride the poor, > uneducated, kas'sachi nov-vari sari clad fisher woman as Portuguese > influenced "Elitist" ? Poor thing, she wouldn't even lnow what > 'Bacalhao' is even though it is a fish or dried fish product. > Absolutely, except the word we omit in Bardez is "Agg". the steam engine train was "Agg-gaddi" even though we commonly use the term "uzo" for fire. the word "agg gaddi" for train may have come from the Marathi influenced Bomboikars. > Perhaps, like me, B
[Goanet] Goddacho panv
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hi Francis, Please find below the requested lyrics. Good luck! BTW, the title of the song is "MOGACHEM TARUM" - not "GODDACHO PANV". "MOGACHEM TARUM" by the late Anthony Mendes Bexttench ragan chavon, kiteak vetai danvon Tujea mogan poi voitam hanv bavon Mogan zaitem baie ghoddta, kednaim hansta kednaim roddta Punn tem tuvem-hanvem sozmochem poddta Moga tum mojem sukh, moddta mogacho rukh Gopan astoch tum lagonam mhaka bukh Hacho mog kelolo porum, danvta koxem aka dhorum Doriean lotton voita mogachem tarum Painnean doloitam mhunnon bexttem mhuttlem Mog sozmonam poieat hem ragan ful'lem Dubav lagta hem konnaimkui punn bul'lem Hem mhaka fottovn-fottovn, kalliz tuttovn hath dakovn chol'lem Moga zalem tem zanv, mozo ghoddacho pão Mhaka soddxi tor jiv ditolom hanv Mhaka bhuloilolo forsan, mog zalolo gelea Marsan Azun povnk nam hanvem mogachi ghoddsan Rav gho sukha mojea, sorga velea anjea Kolsanv denvta poi sintimentan tujea Puro xikoilam tem lisanv, zogddim nakat koriea tensanv Devan ghatlea puro kurpechem bhesanv Mog tuzo assa mhunnon danvon ietam Zalem tem zalem sogllem visor atam Tuji khoxi kor sogllem sonsun ghetam Punn tuka fuddarachi rannim korun, raza hanv zatam. Best regards, Domnic From : francisrf7 fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent : Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:45 AM To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : LYRICS OF THE SONG - GODDACHO PAO FROM THE MOVIE "AMCHEM NOXIB" HI, COULD YOU PLEASE SEND ME LYRICS OF THE SONG ' GODDACHO PAO " FROM THE FILM " AMCHEM NOXIB", I REQUIRE IT TO SING FOR THE BAND. REGARDS FRANCIS - 9821375864 _ http://liveearth.msn.com
Re: [Goanet] Caveat Complainers.
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org On 08/07/07, eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now consider this for counterfoil: a Dow Jones weekly claims, today, that a > CIA duo, both named, organized the abduction of 3000 Al Quaeda honchos from > a hundred countries, in only the first twelve months after 9/11!! > eric. RESPONSE: Very, very interesting; now it will be, only a matter of time, before they start rounding up RSS sympathizers ? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Transition of colours (The Hindu)
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[Goanet] Konkani Joke #4 - IGORJECHE POIXE
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[Goanet] Re Cornel's long awaited comeback
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[Goanet] Restoring Communal Harmony in Goa; Where to begin ?
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Restoring Communal Harmony in Goa
Where to begin ?
By: Wilmix Wilson Mazarello
In any of the "States" of India, or for that matter, in any of the
'Developing Countries' of the World, once the seed of communalism is sown,
it is very, very difficult to stop it growing, if not impossible.
The "seed" of communalism just keeps on growing and growing, multiplying in
leaps and bounds, destroying the very basic "fibre" of the Society.
This is because, the soil of "illiteracy" is a very fertile ground for such
a seed/weed of communalism, to grow and flourish.
To help in this cause, are plenty of Religious Fanatics and Politicians who
work as "full-time-farmers" in this field of destruction, growing and
nurturing the seeds /weeds of communalism.
There are numerous, such examples before us.
This is not a hypothesis, but a "stark reality".
Have a look, at what's going on in Gujarat, Rajasthan, Jammu & Kashmir,
Arunachal Pradesh etc. in India. ('States' plagued by communalism)
Have a look at what's going on in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq,
Ireland, Congo. Libya etc. in the World. ( 'Countries' plagued by
communalism )
As long as "illiteracy" exists and thrives, Politicians and Religious
Fanatics all around the world, will continue to exploit and divide the
people on communal lines, for their selfish gains. Now, let's try and
analyse the situation in our "very own" Goa.
As reported, by our Seniors, the "level" of communalism, that exists today,
was never ever seen in Goa, till its "liberation" from the Portuguese rule
in 1961.
There could have been a slight "slant" in favour of the Christians, during
the 450 odd years of Portuguese Rule, in Goa.
However, the Portuguese Rulers never, really, succeeded in dividing Goans on
communal lines.
In fact, all throughout, Goa has been a fine example of "communal harmony",
to all in India, till it's "Liberation" set in.
But, with "Liberation" also came in, a lot of Literacy and Education, which
should have actually, served as a deterrent, to communalism.
The"high rate" of literacy, should have made it very difficult, for any
communalistic element, to survive here. But, it did not.
What is it then, that went wrong, and worked against the "tide", to promote
the cause of communalism in Goa ?
The fact is that, where Religious Fanatics failed, our Politicians
succeeded.
When our Politicians started talking in "communal tones", they also backed
their efforts with "money-power".
That is, what set in motion the "wind" of communalism in Goa.
It is now, growing and flourishing with every passing day.
What else, can we expect with communalists like Udhay Bhembre. Nagesh
Karmali. N. Shivdas, Dilip Borkar, Prashant Naik etc.who are working
overtime in their 'mission" to eliminate the minorities? To make it worse,
these communalists are openly backed by major political parties in their so
called "mission" to eliminate the minorities.
The seed/weed, of communalism has already been sown in Goa., by these
fanatics, and it is now multiplying, destroying all along its way, the
"communal harmony" that once was a "hallmark" of Goa.
What do we do ?
Can we just, sit quite in helplessness ? The answer is, No!
We must do something. We have to do, something.
The Government of Goa, which is responsible, to quite an extent, for the
present situation has also, to do it's bit.
But, what can the Govt. of Goa, really do in this regard ?
To begin with, the Govt. of Goa, must "analyse the reasons", and "arrest the
causes" that are responsible, for destroying "communal harmony" in Goa.
I for one, can very distinctly, see one causative area, where the Govt. of
Goa can do something, immediately, to "restore confidence" of the Christian
community in Goa.
It is a common fact, that a section of the Hindu community in Goa, is
exploiting Goan christians in the name of "Konkani Language". This "divide"
is seen to be widening, with every passing year.
The Christian community at large, have already started "looking
suspiciously", at all their Hindu brethren, little knowing, that it is not
all the Hindus of Goa, but a small handful of them, that are responsible for
their 'exploitation', both economically and culturally.
I strongly feel, the Govt. of Goa, can start the "healing process" by
immediately giving "official-recognition" to the Roman Script in the
"Official Language Act"
This will, not only, send a "right signal" to all Goans, but will also win
over, the "confidence" of the entire, Christian comm
[Goanet] Taj Mahal wins in a spectacular show
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[Goanet] Hockey Goalkeeper - The City Kitchen guy!
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[Goanet] Caveat Complainers.
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[Goanet] Constructive use of our time
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Re: [Goanet] Selma's selective secularism/to Bosco
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Re: [Goanet] soliciting meetings !
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[Goanet] CRIME OR DISEASE ?
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org CRIME OR DISEASE ? Averthanus L. D'Souza. In the very recent past, strange things have been happening to people in prominent public office. This, of course, is a reflection of the strange things that are happening in society. It appears that society is losing its ethical moorings and is beginning to drift. This drift is affecting not only the political establishment, but is also becoming manifest in the legal system, which, in many ways is the guardian of the social mores of any society. If we look around us, we see clear signs of this ethical erosion. A well-known film actor drives his heavy SUV on a footpath on which homeless people are sleeping. This happens in the early hours of the morning, and there is very strong indication that this film actor is in a state of inebriation. Several of the poor footpath dwellers are killed or injured. The culprit is charged with negligent driving instead of being charged with murder or manslaughter. Some months later there is another incident of a businessman killing two infants by driving his vehicle on the footpath also in a state of drunkenness . All kinds of excuses are offered for his crass action and, again, he is only charged with rash and negligent driving. A celebrity model and hostess is shot dead at point blank range in Delhi by the son of a prominent politician. The entire legal process is subverted and the villain nearly gets off scot-free, until a television channel rakes up the whole issue and creates public awareness about the dubious role played by the police establishment and the public prosecutors office in the subversion of the judicial process. A member of Parliament, belonging to a political party which cries itself hoarse about its high moral standards is caught trafficking women to Europe using forged Passports and tampered documents. These cases are only the tip of the iceberg which have managed to catch the headlines in our newspapers and TV channels. The more widespread morass is hidden from public view. Public reaction is very mixed. Some people are dismayed but remain unmoved. "What can I do about this?" Some simply pass it off as inevitable in society. Why are there different standards for the poor and for the rich and influential? The erosion in the ethical standards of our society is slow, widespread, almost imperceptible, insidious and camouflaged by verbal subterfuge. The High Court of Bombay, Panjim Bench recently banned all bull fights (locally called "dhirios" ). A local TV channel carried a news item showing a leader of a local political party claiming that these were not, in fact, bull-fights but head buttings. He took great pains to explain that the bulls were not made to fight; they were merely coaxed to butt each other. He failed to explain how bulls "fight" normally. This is consistent with the verbal camouflaging of otherwise socially undesirable behaviours. Drunken drivers who kill children and pavement dwellers are charged with negligent driving. School children who shoot their teachers and companions are excused on the ground that they are "emotionally disturbed." Very recently, the National Commission for Women proposed to the National Commission for the Revision of the Criminal Law that adultery should be "decriminalized" and should be treated merely as a "social offence." This is in line with the "decriminalization" of prostitution and treating it merely as a social offence. Now the homosexuals are agitating that "same sex marriages" should be legitimized. Paedophiles have already been active in brainwashing society into believing that their sexual exploitation of children is, in fact, a socially desirable activity. The worrying aspect of these trends is that they attempt to create a distinction between what is socially "offensive" and what is criminal. The assumption (?) that adultery can be acknowledged to be a "social offence" and not be treated as a crime is preposterous, to say the least. What is even more worrying is that the National Commission for Women proposes to exempt women from all liability (criminal and moral) even when they are the initiators of the adulterous relationship. If this thinking is pursued to its logical (illogical?) conclusion then women will not be liable for the crime of murder - just because they are women! One can see the crassness in this way of thinking. This is what has led to the epidemic of unethical social deviants claiming all kinds of "rights" based on their deviance. Thus
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: Sun-Sasumainchem Natem Boxttai Nakat
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Sun-Sasumainchem Natem* Boxttai Nakat Misak vochun ailim hanv. Suria tokler pavlo ani tum azun nhidun asa. Bell marlear pasun utthunk nam astolo. Poderan pão bolkavanchea sopear dovorlele te hanvem bhitor haddleat. Xrimati Lodovina Serrao sodanch sokallchea Misak vochpi. Aiz igorjent, modlea vaddeantlea Santu-chem poilea vorsachem Mis, ani uprant xemiterint vochun ghora pavtta mhonnlear irloso vell zalolo. Hi sondh gheun tigelo ghov Xri Lamberto sust nhidun aslo. Kopdde bodiltanam fone vazlo. Hello!! Konn uloita? Luiza? Bai-e .Koxi asa mhoje dhuve? Morgadha zaitea disanim mhozo ugddas ailo ? Papa ? Ho poi azun sust nhidlolo asa. Ghorant chor bhitor sorun ghor chorun khabar kelear zata punn apli nhid mat to ibaddunk toyear nam .. Kitem .? Kitem mhonnlem mhoje bhuxea ? Khorem sangta tum ..? Khorench bai .? Atanch ietam hanv tugelea ghora . Oi, oi. Papak kollit kortam. Dhuve thaim uloitanam Lodovina-chea mukhamollar khuxecho rong choddlo. Porsantlea zhaddancher bosun, modur avazar ghaionam gaitelim sunkneanim odikuch gavpachem dorlem ani tichea khuxealkaen vantto ghetlo. Tigelea anondit kirnnanim, sokallchea nnov horar zhogzhogtelea suriachea uzvaddak porian lojen ghalo. Oi. Aiz ti itli khuxeal, itli khuxeal, poilech pavtti xemaim zaunchea vattter pavleli. Logn zaleli tigele eklech dhuven, tin vorsam uprant poilo gorb sambavlolo. Are aikolam? Utth, utth vegim. Amgelem bai Liuza . Zannam hanv. Modinch zap ghalun tannem mhonnlem. Tuka konnem kollit kelem bai Luiza avoiponnachea bhesar asa mhunn? Amchea kazari jinnentlim 30 vorsam tujea sangatak tankttam hanv. Aichea disa tujer ubzovleli khuxealkai hea adim hanvem keddnanch pollevnk nam. Dhuvecho khusvo veginuch ubzouncho heach khatir tum niamit (daily) Misak vetalem nhoi? Argam Devak. Tannem tujim magnnim aikolim. Toxem tor vegim utthun tondd bha duvun, nhesun Luiza-gher vochunk toyar zav. Goroz nam. Kitem? Kitem mhonnlem? Mhoje dhuven poilo gorb sambavla ani tika mhoji mozot zai. Dhuvechea ghorant tigelea ghorkarachi avoi asa. Tika kitem kolltelem? Dhuv ti mhoji. Ostoreanchem dukh-sukh ostoreankuch somzota. Dhuvechi sasumai, tivui-i ek ostori Punn hanv khaxealli avoi. Chup!! Sun-sasumaincho suseg piddear zaunk tumchea oslea avoieanchem poilem pavl asta. Dhuvegher vhechi goroz nam. Tujea vonn tigelea sasumai-nk gorbestponnacho onnbhov asa. Teg bhurgeanchi avoi ti. Tum sangta tem sarkem nhi. Dhuvek apnnalea avoichi goroz nam, oxem nam. Hanv gelea xivai dhuvek suseg lagcho nam. Mhoji vatt pollevn astelem tem. Luiza kazar zalear tin vorsam sompun gelim. Rit-dekhinn ani mog divn ami amchea dhuvek vadoilea. Xistin (discipline) tem vaddlam mhonntoch tich xist apnnalea ghorkarachea famili vangddeam modim choloita ani hakach lagun sogott tachi apurbai kortat. Sasumaim asa ti aplich dhuv zalelea bhoxen amchea dhuvek vengoita. Thodde pavtti oslea borele ghorabe padd zatat tumchea oslea avoi-ank lagun. Khoinchea avoik zai aplea dhuvecho fuddar piddear zalolo? Amchi dhuv Luiza zolman ievnchea adim mhoji avoi mhojea fuddeant asleli Tujea kusvean amche dhuven rig ghetli tedna, tugelem voir-sokoll zatelem suhk-dukh aikupak amchea ghorant ostori nasli vo tuka sasu nasli. Hech khatir dusro upai nasun hanvem tuje avoik tujea vinontin amgher dovorleli. Punn tinnem amchea bhav-bhoinnichea mogacho ibadd kelo. Eklich bhoin ti mhoji. Mogan ami choltalim. Tuzi zaiti apurbai kori. Aplo ghorcho vavr soddun tum apoita tenna dhanvim-dhanvim ietali. Mhojea bhoinni vixim naka zalleo chukleo sangun unie ani nondde vo tujea ani mhojea bhoinni modim tujea avoin kestanvam ghatlelim. Ho ugddas asa tuka? Ani amchem por Luiza zolmachea adlea disa hanvem tuje avoik hagasorli dhanvdavun ghatleli ti aiz meren hea ghorant paim ghalunk hanvem tika dilo nam. Fokot fonar zapoitam titloch. Oslich ghoxtt mhojea dhuve sonvem ghoddleli naka. Punn hanv tosli avoi nhoi Shut-up .Ostore zatik vollkota hanv. Borele ghorabe koxe koslun poddtat hache velean obheas kela hanvem. Kan ugtte korun aik. Kenna vochunk ani khoim vochunk zai tem hanv bhes borem zannam. Sodeak nhesunk lag. Nhoi dhuvegher vochunk. Aiz Ponnje vokillachea offisant vochun kaim dokumentancher soi korunk zai mhonn, tum visorlem? Vokillaxim kam sompta mhonnlear donparchim 2 horam vazlelim. Eka Chinese khannavollint vochun tannim donparchem jevonn kelem. Xrimati Lodovina Chinese khanna mhonnlear ekdom pixi zata. Naka purean, pottar muteo marit khavpi
Re: [Goanet] Loyala High School, Margao
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org --- CORNEL DACOSTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I don't think you saw ignorance or illiteracy in the >post to which you replied but pompous and vacuous >arrogance that pops up from time to time from that >source. > Hi Cornel, I think you misunderstand Alfredchacha. What you see is neither pomposity nor arrogance. It is simply the pixyish emulation of old English wordsmiths such as William Evart Gladstone, Gilbert Keith Chesterton and George Bernard Shaw. From what I know of his youth his affinities lie squarely among selfless satyagrahis, cuttichhaap (penniless) Konknniche mogi, Khaadi-clad Gandhians, and perhaps, harijans as well. He is the last of the Mohanicans (friends of my idealistic uncle Mohan). Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Welcome to Cornel
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Dear Bhandare, Thanks for your clarifications on the caste system in India and Goa. I agree with much of what you wrote. However, I have been reading your other posts with a bit of disappointment. For an intelligent guy, you have been contradicting yourself. I think you started the thread "No more religious postings" from you. Then you went on to do precisely the opposite ... with some interesting research. You had some excuses, most of which were irrelevant - and you know it. I have not read any (to quote you), "self styled champions of secularism who use the caste system, devdasi and other ills of the Hindu society to justify things like colonialism and religious persecution by missionaries of bygone colonial era." I will be more than happy to debate this lie on your RSS web site. Just like the perpetrators of the "bygone colonial era", (the middle ages), you are making-up your own excuses to justify your actions. FYI champions of secularism on Goanet are generally not very religious. Please ask yourself whether your posts are adding heat or light to the issues being discussed or more likely those that you generate. Thanks for your consideration. Also can you do something to the RSS-like web page about the Inquisition in Goa by Teo De Souza; which the author claims he never wrote? Por Favor, use your influence. After your post, are abstracts from an Internet web page of an interview with an author who wrote a novel / historical account about the Inquisition in Goa - Richard Zimler's novel Guardian of the Dawn. Goan authors and wannabe authors would find the following of great interest, especially after our last discussion about writing.:=)) Likely in two years someone on Goanet or on the RSS web site will quote this book as authoritative. Kind Regards, GL -- Bhandare Dear Gilbert: My 'tirade' was not directed against any of Cornel's posts or against Goan catholics in general. They were more against those self styled champions of secularism who use the caste system, devdasi and other ills of the hindu society to justify things like colonialism and religious persecution by missionaries of bygone colonial era. -- Abstract from the internet web page interview with Richard Zimler: Author of Guardian of the Dawn. http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/14inter1.htm The research involved in Guardian of the Dawn is obviously immense. Could you tell me a little about the kind of preparatory work you had to put in? To write the book, I tried to read everything I could about daily life on the west coast of India -- more specifically, in and around Goa -- at the end of the sixteenth century. The Internet has made that sort of research much easier than it used to be, and I was able to order books about everything from traditional medical practices -- including recipes for specific ailments -- to animals and plants indigenous to that region. When I write a novel, I want to get all the details right, so this is very important. Of course, it was also vital for me to know as much as I could about Hinduism and Catholicism. As you mentioned, I studied Comparative Religion at university, so this was pretty easy. One of the main characters in the novel is a Jain, which is a religion I have always been curious about, so I read three or four books about Jainism as well. It was wonderful to be able to learn a bit about Jain belief and practice. Writing is always a great opportunity for me to keep learning. Did you visit Goa at any point? If not, what did you base your descriptions of the state upon? No, I decided not to go to Goa, because I didn't want any images from modern Goa to infiltrate into the novel. I didn't want to risk inadvertently putting something from today into it. So I based my descriptions on other areas of the world I've visited that have similar flora and fauna -- Thailand, for instance. Also, I read all I could about the city so that my descriptions of the buildings, for instance, would be accurate. I then used my imagination, which is the most important thing for a writer. I now have a landscape in my head that is Goa -- and the surrounding region -- in 1600. I don't know how it developed. It's almost magical.
[Goanet] Public holidays, human touch, Sicko, Konkani vocabulary, sports... and more (Goanet highlights, by Dr Cornel DaCosta, Goanvoice.org.uk)
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org GOANET HIGHLIGHTS BY CORNEL DACOSTA There is a 'raging controversy' over the issue of public holidays in Goa/India. Readers of the Goan Voice (UK) will be quite surprised, as I was, to discover that, there are so many angles to perceive what such public holidays represent, and how difficult it is to determine how many there should be in a calendar year so as to please as many people as possible. In a short perceptive piece titled Hands Off, Pravin Sabnis provides a discussion on the merits, or not, of human touch upon others. He explores the problem of touch by way of physical punishment on erring students by teachers, the loving touch upon others and misconstrued touch deemed to be sexual harassment. On Goanet we have an interesting presentation of Michael Moore's recent prize winning film Sicko at the Cannes Festival. The film, now on general release, severely castigates the American health system. It also praises the socialised health care systems of several European countries. Posters on Goanet are keen "to hear the positive and negative experiences of health care from those living in Canada, UK, France etc". Hopefully, GV(UK) readers will oblige in this respect. In several hilarious pieces but with some serious underpinnings, find out from [the] Hit and Make approach to Konkani Vocabulary Building, how new words are accommodated into Konkani. Not only do we find details of many unusual terms, but there is also absorbing commentary on their origins and usage. Zena Costa tells us about the achievement of Goa's Steffie Cardozo (18) who won a gold medal for the Shot Putt in the Federation Cup National Athletics Championship in Madurai. I am sure we will want to wish Steffi well in future competitions. Finally, several recent posts on Goanet had informed readers about the difficulty of obtaining labour in Goa for building work as well as in running restaurants, hotels etc.This was linked to an in-depth discussion about the mobility of capital and labour in thriving economic conditions. Likewise, UK media has told us a lot about Polish workers such as plumbers, builders and others who have made a beeline to the UK and indeed undercut British wages. The paradox now is that Poland itself suffers from an acute shortage of labour and has had to make arrangements for substantial replacement labour from India. Will this have a further deteriorating impact on Goa? Please visit the Goanet archives at http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ To subscribe to Goanet send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Christianity on GoaNet
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hei Rui, GoaNet is predominantly Christian forum with a Roman Catholic bent although it would like to be perceived as nondenominational and secular. For those who believe that a Christian 'belief system' has NOTHING to do with 'Education, Politics, Economic, Social System' probably also believe that to be a good Catholic, one must attend weekly Mass and receive the Eucharist only after going to confession, and that too only if deemed necessary. I will concede that I, too, don't see the connect with goalkeeping but I'll let Dkr. Karmo reply to that. Can we ever have a serious discussion about anything without having our opinions influenced by the belief system by which we have been brainwashed from before we could even think? Catholicism has taken this technique to an incredible art, causing millions of anguished parents to cower protectively over their infants until the stain of Original Sin could be washed away by the waters of Baptism. Their fear that, in the event of neonatal death, their tiny souls would be lost in Limbo has now been thankfully alleviated by the learned Vatican theologians. That has not stopped Catholic parents from beginning this indoctrination process as soon as a toddler can hold a prayerbook. In jurisdictions like Ontario where there is a perceived benefit to publicly funded Catholic education, baptisms are only to ensure the child's acceptance into the local Catholic school. It is said that 'curiosity killed the cat' but what wasn't mentioned was that what didn't kill it, made it smarter. Ever since we parted ways with our simian ancestors, we have been getting progressively smarter as a species since we didn't have a tail to keep us going around in circles. Most of what we have today we owe to the concept of gods and supernatural entities which pervaded every facet of ancient civilization. Our legal system is a prime example. I do agree with others on this list that we should keep our discussions civil but I don't think that there is any logical basis to remove religion from the discussion. My ONLY function on GoaNet is to provide a secular viewpoint, illuminating the inconsistencies of belief on topics I see relevant. Sincerely, Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. 416-802-9397 Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 09:45:08 -0400 From: "rui nuvo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 548 Hei, Is there some reason why Christianity is brought up consistently in almost every topic in goanet-request? Christianity is a belief system and has nothing to do with Education, Politics, Economic, Social System let alone goan Christian Goalkeeping paradigm shift. Come on it is about time we stop bringing in our pennies worth of christianity or any religious belief system into topics for serious discussion. No wonder we spend so much time chasing our own tails unless of course we want to confuse the cats. ~~ -- Be impeccable with your word - Don Miguel Ruiz http://www.nderf.org/4AgreementsReview.htm
[Goanet] ALERT:Goa now has a State Police Complaint Authority
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org - Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED, The time is come for the people of Goa to ORGANISE not AGONISE !! -- - Goa now has a State Police Complaint Authority Government of Goa, HOME DEPT (Gen), Secretariate, Porvorim, Goa STATE POLICE COMPLAINT AUTHORITY NOTICE The Government of Goa, in pursuance of the specific directions of the supreme court of India has constituted the State Police Complaint Authority. Its very purpose is to take cognizance and get investigated only allegations of serious misconduct by the Police personnel which would include incidents involving death, grievous hurt or rape in Police custody. The Authority will also inquire into allegations of extortion, land/house grabbing or any other incidents involving serious abuse of authority. In case any person or persons have any allegation only on the incidents specified above, against police officers of any rank including Superintendent of police or above, they should submit their representation/complaint to the chairman of the said Police Complaint Authority, Retired Justice Dr Eurico Santana da Silva or contact the said office which from 1st June 2007 will be located in Alto Porvorim in the flat No-BS-1, 3rd floor of the building "Paraiso de Goa" Advert. in The Navhind Times 31/5/07 page No 13 -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070708/d098f25b/attachment.htm
[Goanet] Poem: The Phantom of Cyberspace
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org The Phantom of Cyberspace He haunts the innards of cyberspace Like a spectre, a spirit he darts across the internet; To this forum he is a valuable asset But no one knows the identity, not yet, Of this wondrous phantom of Goanet. He regales us with his mystifying anecdotes, Quizzes us with his photographic vignettes, Riddles us with flowers and fruits, houses and bridges, And many a time have I not in vain tried to identify these? Is a celebrity, a star or just a benevolent and humble soul, An enigmatic phantom of cyberspace? He amuses me with nostalgia, Film clips and tunes of the sixties and seventies, He keeps me close to home with his photography But his cover is not blown, not yet, Of this phantom of cyberspace, spectre of goanet. He doesn't find himself steeped in forum squabble, Nor does he post any twaddle, His statements are not boastful, Nor his arguments bashful, But for sure this phantom surely loves his homeland, And in turn keeps me in touch, firsthand. Tony Fernandes Author of: Goa - Memories of My Homeland http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=290
[Goanet] Land issues in Goa
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Below is a series of assembly questions, on matters of concern in the public debate. I would just like to share some of the details, so that anyone could access the records and study the same if interested. All this information should be available under the Right to Information Act too, at Rs 2 per page, and are all based on legislative questions. * Purchase of land by foreign nationals : Legislative Assembly Question No 20 tabled by Ramarao Desai, MLA for Curchorem, 17 July 2006. (21 pages) * Registration of sale deeds exceeding 100,000 square metres of land, unstarred Legislative Assembly Question No 118, by Vijay Pai Khot, answered on 25 January 2007. * Number of cases cleared by the Town and Country Planning Department under the New Regional Plan 2011, unstarred Legislative Assembly Question No 112, tabled by Manohar Parrikar, on 23 January 2007. * Development undertaken after publication of the Regional Plan 2011, starred Legislative Assembly Question No 39, tabled by Sadanand Shet, on 23 January 2007. * Regarding sale deeds registered in the State, starred Legislative Assembly Question No 15 by Laxmikant Parsekar, answered on 7 March 2007. -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm)
[Goanet] Bhakti wins Silver in Uzbekistan
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Goa's Woman FIDE Master Bhakti Kulkarni (ELO 2112) added yet another feather in her cap by winning the Silver medal in the Asian Girls Under 16 Chess Championships which concluded in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. Bhakti started off the tournament terribly by losing in the first and third rounds. However, she recovered superbly thereafter winning the next six on the trot and beating the top seed and hot favourite WIM Padmini Rout (ELO 2212) in the process. The first place was bagged by Nakhbayeva Guliskhan (ELO 2024) of Kazakhastan whereas Padmini had to remain content with the Bronze medal. Bhakti thus gets the unique distinction of having won three medals in three consecutive Asian Championships. She won the Bronze in New Delhi in 2005, the Gold in Teheran in 2006 before completing her treble in Tashkent this year. Bhakti also has won the Commonwealth Under 18 Girls Gold medal in Mumbai in 2006 to cement her place as flagbearer of Goan chess. She will be received in New Delhi on her return by her parents and AICF Vice President and GSCA President Sameer A. Salgaocar. The last mentioned stated that this was a proud day in the history of Goan sports and that Bhakti, her coach Dronacharya Awardee Raghunandan Gokhale and parents should be lauded for their efforts! SOURCE: Sameer A. Salgaocar, President - Goa State Chess Association
