[Goanet] Shame on Manohar Parrikar
Dears, In the unlikely event that I may have to choose between the two Parrikars give me Rajan any day! At least he has a sense of Goan-ness. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:50:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Shame on Manohar Parrikar Manohar Parrikar's utterance today branding Goan activists as Naxalites is despicable. Shame on him. Regards, r -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Construction scenario booming despite opposition
Construction scenario booming despite opposition PANAJI - Taking away plots of land, which were allotted to the companies under the Special Economic Zones, opposition to the mega housing projects in the villages and bringing curtain on the hill cutting have not affected the construction scenario in the state. The people are expecting something unexpected to happen and awaiting desperately for some kind of pact with the builders and contractors or as regards land deals or flats. A survey conducted by 'The Navhind Times', revealed that scarcity of land has created more demand for plots of land and flats in the state. 'The prices of flats and plots went skyrocketing in the few months, due to Aldeia de Goa and more so due to IFFI. Otherwise, the prices were stable in the state and there were absolutely no problems in the construction scenario of the state, says a city builder,' Mr Deepak Naik. He said, although there was crash in the construction raw material prices like steel and cement but it never had any impact on the sale of either land or flat. People have even stopped inquiring into the prices and expecting something will happen sooner or later, he informed. Mr Nilesh Salkar, director of Sushila Homes Properties Pvt Ltd stated that with the type of activism going on and as per the new Regional Plan most of land is being put into negative list. The prices will shoot up again with the new trend setting up in the construction industry and almost everyday rates are climbing up. There is no supply of land particularly in coastal belt like Colva and Benaulim, so prices here are obviously more than prices in Margao and its suburbs. 'Rates are contrary going up. Sea land is being withdrawn from development and a sort land scarcity has been created in the construction scenario. Market trend may have come down because of slow market prices but when a commodity is not available in the market prices will go up,' revealed the proprietor of Soares and Associates, Mr Soares. Mr Eli Furtado, a reputed contractor in construction line states that SEZ was a temporary phase, which Goa witnessed. This kind of temporary trends will never affected Goan reputed and well-known builders. Now, the beauty of state will remain intact. Having high-rise buildings will definitely cause fluctuations in the infrastructures like electricity, water supply, sewage and garbage et al. So what is the use of multi-stories without? building infrastructures. 'You see, big builders will always escape by hook or by crook but is a small builder that suffers. Even the RBI guidelines are affecting the builders and the rate of interest is also gone up. All this will affect Goans and not the builders,' says Mr Ahmad Khan. A builder from city wants to remain anonymous states that when malaria cases are on the decline mean construction activities are down. It is a sick sign to revoke construction permission once it was issued. Now architects, engineers and labourers have no jobs and are sitting idle for want of work. If this continues how employment avenues will be created? http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062159
Re: [Goanet] Going soft on Narvenkar
Dear Floriano, I hereby openly declare that if GOA has to be saved, we need more people like FLORIANO , moreover should I say more parties like GSRP(rather one and only party GRSP) because Florian can well be called ONE MAN ARMY, and GSRP an ARK like the noah's which can shelther the best of GOA, while the rest surely is supposed to be and should be washed away with the floods of corruption. Only then can Goa be CLEAN. Lets not waste time running around and looking for different parties when we can FOLLOW HIM/GSRP, as this is a party with a difference. Regards Mario A _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
[Goanet] FW: Abuse of Parliamentary Privileges.
_ From: Averthan D'Souza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: Abuse of Parliamentary Privileges. Dear Editor, The accusation made by the Leader of the Opposition that Naxalites are gaining ground in Goa has already evoked a swift and unambiguous response from Goan citizens who are struggling to stem the tide of environmental degradation by the mining industry. This is welcome and encouraging. The aspect of abusing Parliamentary privileges, however, is something that somehow has missed the general public. An Ad-Hoc Committee of the Legislature to hear public views on the functioning of the Home Department was the occasion for the Chairman of this Ad-Hoc Committee to misuse his position by making unsubstantiated accusations against citizens who are legitimately protesting the encroachments of the mining industry in Goa. In particular, the Chairman named an individual and accused him of being a Naxalite who was importing Naxalism into Goa. In other Democracies, a House Committee Hearing is a solemn, and quasi judicial process in which the Committee seeks to assess the views of concerned citizens on specific issues of government policy. The Chairman of such a House Committee NEVER misuses his position to hurl accusations against anybody - individual or group.His role is clearly defined by the Rules governing such Hearings The other members of the Committee are also required to observe a strict protocol.The so-called House Ad-Hoc Committee of the Goa Legislature appears to be a public free for all where anyone and his uncle can say anything on any subject which s/he chooses.Hence the atmosphere of a durbar which has characterized the recent exercises of the Goa State Assembly.The lack of proper rules to govern the public hearings and the lack of procedures has degraded this recent attempt to give the impression that the Assembly is serious about public participation in the framing of policies. From the reports appearing in the Press it appears that the entire exercise is an eye wash. The point at issue here, however, is the fact that the Leader of the Opposition, as the Chair of this particular Ad-Hoc Committee has flouted all norms and misused his position to make unsubstantiated allegations against citizens who are exercising their legitimate rights to draw the attention of the Government to areas which need attention. The Speaker of the House and the Chief Minister should formulate clear regulations to govern the workings of the House Committees. Such hearings should be treated as sacred and should not be used by politicians to give vent to their own personal agendas. The House Committee should be seen to be objective and unbiased rather than a public forum in which charges and counter-charges are traded. Yours truly, Averthanus L. D'Souza, D-13, La Marvel Colony, Dona Paula, Goa 403 004. Tel: 2453628.
[Goanet] Solidarity with Seby
Innocent, peaceful Goan villagers like Seby Rodrigues, Rama Velip others who are resisting the illegal mining in an effort to save their land, lives and livelihoods have been labeled as Naxalites… Come, join the solidarity lend voice and support to the collective denouncement of the culprits who are murdering justice, democracy and human rights. On 23rd June 2008, Monday, 4.00 - 5.30 pm sharp at the historic T B Cunha Hall, opposite Azad Maidan, Panaji please spread the message Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it on http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/bestofyahoo/
[Goanet] I can't keep up with Goa's intrigues
This message is in reply to Message No: 2, dated Sat, 21 Jun 2008 by Miguel Braganza Nothing about politics - Miguel provides Selma with wrong information and adds to her confusion! Miguel wrote: Manohar Parrikar ...He is an addvo Bamonn affiliated to Partagal Mutt [not to be confused for Portugal] and so is a Shiva worshipper [Hence,perhaps, Rajan Parrikar's phallic fetish]. My Clarification: Goan Brahmin is broadly divided into two. One group is called Smarth (as per terminology used by you they are also called Addve Bamonn) who are worshipers of Lord Shiva and are affiliated to Kavle Mutt. The other group is called Vaishnav who are worshipers of Lord Vishnu and are affiliated to Partagal Mutt. This being reality how come you say Manohar Parrikar is - Addvo Bamonn - and yet you say that he is affiliated to Partagal Mutt! I think you will have to do some more research on above information provided by you before you confuse Selma any further. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] SPEAK UP ...while you CAN
Dears, Manohar-bab Parrikar has called Seby [Sebastian Rodrigues] a NAXALITE. The other Naxalites with him were FOUR post-graduate students of MSW [Master of Social Work] from Nirmala Niketan's College of Social Work, Mumbai, on their summer assignment work doing a survey of water sources used by the villagers of Colomb. That Colomb has become a news media bomb for the District Administration ... and, by extension, the Government of Goa, that directs it ... that badly handled the Citizens' protest on 25 March, 2008. Police men and women, in full uniform, were HIRED for personal security of mining staff. There is a legal provsion for this and the amounts are payable as per routine process. Police men, in the same uniforms as the 'hired' policemen arrested men and women who were standing in Government property under forest that was being cut to make way for the trucks to transport ore out of a private mine operating illegally. The Government was protecting the wrongdoer and arresting those who wer, in fact, helping the Goa Government to prevent a crime in broad day light. For their efforts these poor villagers, most of them women, have ben charged with a Chapter case No. 25/2008 under Section 107 of the Criminal Procedure Code or Cr.P.C. The policy is simply to give the dog a bad name and then shoot it. Now it is claimed that using women to fight ones battles is a Naxalite tactic and Seby is to blame. One ex-Editor [NOT Rajan Narayan] is even claiming ...surreptiously and without byline ...that Seby is a CPI-ML Card Holder [apparently the Communist equivalent of the American Green Card]. I wonder why he did not ask this question of Seby when he was at Don Bosco's Farm and School in Sulcorna on 05 June to celebrate World Environment Day. I thought a journalist asked questions, found the answers and reported faithfully and we had cooks to make masala curry and recheiado fish. Now some journalist have stepped out and are making something fishy with lots of masala in it! The time to Speak up is NOW. If you are in Goa, keep your Monday afternoon free. If you are not convinced, read what Pravin Sabnis has written and quoted below. The Fascists are here ...facetiously telling us that we are Naxalites! Mog asundi. Miguel --- On Sat, 21/6/08, Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 23rd June (monday) 4 pm at Panaji * * *First they came… is a poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.* * * First they came for the Socialists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak up for me. Innocent, peacefully resisting Goan villagers Have been labeled as Naxalites… We must lend voice and solidarity to the collective denouncement * * * Cheers *Pravin* Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! group at http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
[Goanet] Why can't Goan politicians dress-up?
Why do Goan politicians always have to dress like they are out taking their dog for walk, even if they are addressing public meetings and gatherings? What is the virtue in wearing that bush-coat hanging out over a cheap polyester pant and chappals that have seen too many monsoons pass by? Even the Chinese, who you can't beat for nationalism and patriotism, will not leave the house without a proper business-suit or atleast that Chairman Mao jacket. What is this notion, that the politician has to represent the common man?. Which common man in Goa goes for a business meeting or even a ladainho without a proper long-sleeved shirt, pant and tie? Can we all just contribute a few bucks and gift these politicians a Raymonds voucher? If that isn't bad enough, all our intellectuals and activists look like they need a good bath and shave. Come on guys, that Che Guevara beard went out of style in the 1970s alongwith psychedelic T-shirts and the thing stimulating about beards is lice. Also please ditch the sling-bag, unless you're collecting tickets on the Kadamba Express to Panjim. Infact, I am waiting for Wendell to form his own party and put in an appearance. Atleast then we'll have politicians who'll be walking down the ramp with flowing white clothes and flouride-white teeth. (Floriano this doesn't apply to you. I think you look swell. From now on I have decided to back only politicians who look good. My vote is for Floriano. Kamat should definitely resign. He looks like he swallowed the entire ghee-fried jalebi stall at the last Panjim Church festa.) selma
[Goanet] Goan Intrigues and incarnation
Miguel wrote 1. Manohar Parrikar cannot be an incarnation of Vishnu. He is an addvo Bamonn affiliated to Partagal Mutt [not to be confused for Portugal] and so is a Shiva worshipper Miguel, Miguel...tsk tsk, such a lack of knowledge of our rich and glorious ancient culture... Do you know Rameshwar, where Rama, incarnation of Vishnu, worshiped Shiva on the beach? Who knows the workings of the Divine? It is possible for Vishnu to incarnate among the addvos, if only to prove once and for all, who is the one true and omnipotent one of them all. Though once again I am not so sure how one tests such a claim...Shiva has not incarnated (at least not puranically) and the world has done just fine...poor Vish has had to incarnate time after time and is apparently still tryingthe battle continues But I wouldnt go so far as to credit Manohar kaka with being a vishnu-avaatar. For a long while, i thought him to be an incarnation of Hitler...which he could still be, but I would see him more as an incarnation of Dr. Antonio Oliveira Salazar (Tio Antonio)...no wonder the upper caste catholics love him despite the damage he would do to them. More seriously, I think it is Rajan Parrikar who should be credited with being the true incarnation of Hitler. While Manohar kaka has been smart enough to avoid making silly statements that reveal his actual plans (another reason why he should be seen as an incarnation of Dr. Salazar, who was a professor at the world's best university, the University of Coimbra), Rajan bab is different. He makes all these autochthonous, xenophobic and genocidal statements. His responses the last few days, where he has practically had spittle flying from his mouth as he rages, both virtually and corporeally. This is more Hitler like And seriously, this is exactly the route the Hitler adopted to get to powerhe charmed the German elite (as Rajan Bab does the Catholic groups) and held the thugs at bayonce he became the hero (as our Rajan bab is becoming with the Rape of Goa being used to show us what we can already see anyways- are we blind?)..he let loose the dogs of war (remember the homosexuals, Jews, communists, socialists, Catholics, artists and dissenters who were murdered in the Holocaust)... To return to the Vaishnava reference...both Krishna and Balarama were from the same household...and incarnations of Vishnu...so ...??? But God does no evil, so they must be incarnations of Kansa (of the killing of the innocents fame, a la King Herod) De profundis clamo ad te, domine, domine --- Read my thoughts at www.dervishnotes.blogspot.com
[Goanet] Goanet] Our legacy for future generations of Goans, courtesy of Goanet.
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:37:36 +0100 From: Paulo Colaco Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posts by a number of authors (me included) are nothing else but a waste of time, space and bandwidth. Often our written claims lack integrity, factual credibility and in some cases also lack substantial legal sufficiency, which, in essence and all put together, leads to most claims, conclusions or discussions to be unreliable and useless to say the least. This is what is wrong with Goanet! We Goans seem to suffer from lack of detail and excellence in whatever we write. It is easy to write rubbish and because we are not used to quality reading, we tend to contribute with even more rubbish. Mario observes: Paulo, I'm glad you included yourself in the opinion expressed above, but, in my opinion, you need to take a deep breath and loosen that kashtie, just a little. There, I'm sure that feels better:-)) a) You are taking yourself and everyone else too seriously. b) This is a recreational open public forum where Goans can get together figuratively to let off steam and speak their mind, kibbitz with their friends, ridicule their adversaries, have a little fun and perhaps learn a thing or two. Those who have better things to do with their time should get on with it and not post meaningless rubbish on Goanet:-)) There is enough bandwidth to accomodate all the rubbish we can come up with, and then some:-)) We may even solve some of Goa's problems, especially if I can get them to listen to me about how to make development compatible with Goa's natural beauty and ambience:-)) Paulo wrote: One thing we can be sure: whatever we write today will be available for eternity through the internet. Isn't this scary enough? Mario observes: I hope our descendants have better things to do, and current events to talk about, than to read what was written by their ancestors on Goanet:-)) When was the last time you looked in the Goanet archives to see what was written last year, or even last month for that matter? Had you looked you may have found some profound thoughts, at least under my name, and learned something - or not.:-)) Paulo wrote: If not, we ought to introduce factual credibility in whatever we write or it would be better not to write it at all. Mario responds: In my opinion, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, ridiculous and misguided as you may think they are, but not to their own facts. Freedom fighters the world over have given their lives so that you can speak your mind. Some of our Goanetters in the Gulf don't have that luxury. Facts, on the other hand, are, by definition, verifiable and actual and have an objective reality, and, if anyone mis-state sa fact, someone on Goanet will be sure to let them know. Paulo wrote: Especially for those who claim to be professional researchers or academics that surely could do much better by not having non-factual claims above their names. Mario responds: Now look what you have written - a vague and vapid generality where we have no idea what you are talking about. Some may even call it rubbish, especially the researchers and academics:-)) To be useful, you will have to cite some specific examples of their misrepresentations, and let them respond. That way we may all learn something. That's how a forum should work in my not so humble, constitutionally protected, opinion.
Re: [Goanet] Telo Mascarenhas by Shashikar Kelekar not Shashikala Kakodkar
Samir Kelekar wrote: 1: People of slave mentality who dont have any shame and have taken Portuguese citizenship have no caliber to comment on not just Telo but on Goa's freedom movement too. 2: Lohia remains and will remain an icon for Goa and we should take inspiration from his courage of that day in 1946 to fight the corrupt. jc's comment: a: I suppose the following are examples of GoaNetters (et others) who are people of slave mentality as per the classification of Dr Samir Kelekar: PhD jc, Dr. Teotonio de Souza, Naraina Coisoro, the late Pundalik Gaitonde, the late Jose Inacio Loyola (Portuguese slaves), Cornel da Costa, Eddie Fernandes (British slaves) et al... b: Yes yes ...brilliant words about fighting the corrupt from someone who thought it to be No Problem to bribe a line operator to get a telephone connection. As the Velim based Xri Konfucious would say: Have mouth, Will Speak. jc
[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 137 - RADIOGOA NETWORK
RADIOGOA NETWORK The RadioGoa network is a most praiseworthy undertaking And there is without doubt, no mistaking That it has played a tremendous role, In achieving its laudable goal Of keeping alive interest in Konkani for which old-timers are aching. One can now listen to our golden oldies in the background, Or listen with ear-phones so that others are not disturbed by the sound. It is a most pleasant way to maintain One's knowledge of some old refrain, And maybe once in a way learn some new song that one had earlier not found. Hats off to Benedict Lobo who initiated this scheme, And turned into reality this cherished dream, That evokes memories of the gentle balmy sea breeze And the rustling of palm fronds of coconut trees, And brings to the eyes of Goans abroad a nostalgic gleam. This is indeed a most welcome marriage of Goan psychology And the innovative use of modern technology. Now others must seek fresh avenues Whereby we can likewise use The Internet to maintain and spread Goa's cultural anthropology. - Shanti Dhoot Re: Message: 9 of 19 Jun 2008 Subject: [Goanet] 'RadioGoa' a gift to Konkani music lovers PTI June 18, 2008 PANAJI: RadioGoa, a unique venture by Dubai-based NRI Goan, has helped Konkani music transcend its traditional boundaries and be available worldwide. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1171938
[Goanet] Was Goa liberated or Conquered ?
There is an interesting discussion taking place on orkut on events in Goa in 1961. Many history students and academics are part of this community. Would you be interested in participating in this thread on a social networking site like orkut ? Just go to http://www.orkut.com and register yourself. Then click on the below link - weight. http://www.orkut.co.in/CommMsgs.aspx?cmm=21177tid=5213471783448280383start=1 regards BTW Orkut seems to be better social networking site than a mailing list like goanet
[Goanet] Imminent construction in Bainguinim, Old Goa
To Goanet - Something's afoot near the hills of Bainguinim, Old Goa. The guards scattered when I pointed by camera at them - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/bainguinim-1.jpg The slopes have been cleared - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/bainguinim-2.jpg http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/bainguinim-3.jpg I hear there is a connection here to an aspiring politician from Aldona - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/bainguinim-4.jpg Goa is being dismantled. Unless construction and conversion are stopped NOW, we are finished. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] Happy birthday, Chacha
A eagle in Sweden mentioned that it was Alfred Tavares' birthday today. Many happy returns to you Chacha... you add value to our networks. FN -- Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Happy Birthday Alfred!
Goanetters, May be a little bit late in announcing, but It's Alfred's birthday today. Warm wishes from everybody I'm sure, and I'll surely convey it across when I meet him this evening at his place at Hasselby in Stockholm. Clinton.. Stockholm (Back on 7th July 7am onwards..) +46762976399 +919890936838
Re: [Goanet] Goan Intrigues and incarnation
To Goanet - Jason Keith Fernandes writes: More seriously, I think it is Rajan Parrikar who should be credited with being the true incarnation of Hitler. . . And seriously, this is exactly the route the Hitler adopted to get to powerhe charmed the German elite (as Rajan Bab does the Catholic groups).. Ha ha ha. The would-be academic finally goes cuckoo. Allow me to cite Godwin's Law (do a Google search) which states: As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. I am delighted to be a data point to confirm Godwin. Read my thoughts... As soon as you have one, we will. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] June 18- Let the Revolution Begin
Miguel, again you have missed the point. It was not me but JC who raised the issue obliquely and then I said that I know that Telo was charged with bigamy. The book perhaps tells how long Telo was sentenced. If not for Indian government's intervention, he would not have been back on Indian soil. I wished you had read between the lines of my post that Telo was NOT happy that the Indian government that instead of him being made the supervisor of the Portuguese section of AIR, Nehru prevered Laxmanrao Sardesai. JC likes to tease. He should give us the gist of the conversation with Telo. But then to ask in the same manner he asks others, how would others verify he is telling the truth and not telling us manufactured facts. However, stop the suspense and also stop this tread. JC the ball is in your. You get the last word...probably. Can I know from Goa-based netters if the book by Edila Gaitonde and also the Builders of Modern India are available in Goa? Eugene Eugene
[Goanet] Goan Intrigues and incarnation
Jason wrote: More seriously, I think it is Rajan Parrikar who should be credited with being the true incarnation of Hitler. I think that is a totally unfair comment on Rajan. Hitler did not go around photographing the destruction that lay behind in the gas chambers. So there. To many it can seem that Rajan's captions are excessive but if you go out there on ground, the reality is sometimes worse than what any camera can capture. I do not appreciate his use of abuse but so many of us, including me, have done the same. I have said this often in personal conversations that the first time he used the word ghati it was descriptive rather than derogatory. But certain alert chaps pounced on him and he began to repeat the word with greater intensity maybe to spite his critics and ended up looking exactly the opposite of what he is. Trash the wrong that he may sometimes write. But do not demonise the man who is giving it his all. He is too transparent a man to mask his immediate emotion. But in practice he is a sensitive music connoisseur. Who has the guts to stand up to shin music. I am ready to be blasted for an honest opinion, But I know who I am talking about. And calling Rajan, Hitler is no different from calling Seby a Naxalite. Cheers Pravin From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/citygroups/
[Goanet] O Coqeiro
O Coqueiro http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2597505734/ I bring this to you as part of my memories 1970s/1980s For us (People from the South Goa), O Coqueiro, those days, was like the other name for Porvorim. O Coquero was very famous for its authentic Goan food etc It even had a long distance telephone hotline, where we used to go to make international calls (the only other place to make such calls were at Post and Telegraph offices in Panjim, Margao etc) Charles Sobraj was re-arrested here (after he escaped from prison). I sometimes used to visit O coquero for my lunch (Rs.20 in late 80s) where as other’s at Betim etc fish curry rice thali was around 10. Everytime there was a local Customs and Excise audit at our office, I used to take the party of 2 or 3 to O Coquero for a lunch there (this was a sort of bribe to Govt. officers, I guess it is still in practice now). Last night we visited O Coquero after a gap of say 18 years. The other reason we chose to go here on Friday was Emiliano and his Trio playing there live on Fridays after 8pm till 11. So, what we ate? Well, we order only 2-3 items, purely Goan viz 1 Pork vindaloo (120) 1 Bangde (2 small Mackerel fry) (85) 2 Goan Prawn Curry rice (350) 4 Samll plain chapattis (32) 1 Portion Extra Plain Rice (45) (as we could not waste the leftover thick prawn curry) 4 Kingfisher beer bottles 650ml (340) –we preferred beer to wine Total : 972 (Vat incl). It was crowded with many guests including those from Goa Mariott etc. We enjoyed not only the food but the Live Music too some of which was specially played for us. It was really romantic. Check this out http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KoeJGytUAl0 http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KoeJGytUAl0 Pics (Emiliano and his boys at Coqueiro) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2595334557/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2596168632/ Check these previously capture clips at GrapeEscapade 07 Emiliano and his Trio http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=qV_Qp0at86g Playing Goan special http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=3GCtNY3wEX0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] Politicians are responsible for more deaths than Naxalites
Though I dont have sympathy for the Naxalite method, I think a big deal is being made about Naxalites and their violence. By commission and ommission, politicians are responsible for more deaths in this country. If only we had some accountability and pinning down of responsibility, we will realize that lack of enforcement of traffic rules, and the state of the roads gives rise to huge number of deaths on our roads, people die due to negligence in our public hospitals, as well as due to diseases such as malaria, we have had kids dying due to low hanging electricity wires, we have had miners going under the rubble due to lack of safety standards in our mines, we have had swimmers dying due to lack of guards on our beaches, construction labourers dying under the rubble when constructions are done without any care of safety standards, we have so many murder cases unsolved which means there are criminals roaming on our streets without any fear, we have people committing suicide partly because there are no opportunities for the youth - whom do we consider responsible for all of the above deaths or possibility of deaths above ? And we are bothered naxalites are in our midst. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Goanet posts
I find a curious situation on Goanet in several posts from quite a few veteran (frequent) posters. They present themselves as being too busy to continue this dialog. Their stated excuse is they have to run - possibly because they have the runs.:=)). Then they continue to write posts that suggest they are constipated, at least in their thought process and the fact that their post on the run are just too long. Likely in their own mind, they view their writings with an air of respectability. Yet, through repetition of the same confused facts, and distorting other peoples' posts, they drown everybody elses' writings into submission. They write stories concocted to cover up the truth, yet from time to time they confess that they are really talking about anecdotal cases. But who cares about the truth, especially when one is busy patting themselves on their back as the undisputed victors. It pains me to see some 'highbrow' netters delight in telling us everything they do not know.:=)) And in case we missed it, they repeat the same set of non-facts (disguised as opinions). In case the readers of this post still have their humor, highbrow is a person educated beyond his intelligence. (Brander Matthews). Regards, GL
[Goanet] Telo Mascarenhas by Shashikar Kelekar not Shashikala Kakodkar
?jc's comment: a: I suppose the following are examples of GoaNetters (et others) who are people of slave mentality as per the classification of Dr Samir Kelekar: PhD jc, Dr. Teotonio de Souza, Naraina Coisoro, the late Pundalik Gaitonde, the late Jose Inacio Loyola (Portuguese slaves), Cornel da Costa, Eddie Fernandes (British slaves) et al... Dont try to evade the issue Jose or hide behind other names. tell me --- are you of a slave mentality or not ? Does the lathi of 45 years back hurt or not? Is your going for Portuguese citizenship a purely opportunistic thing or not? Accept the fact that you have teamed up with our conquerers. Even Portuguese would respect the Goan freedom fighters but not white-wannabe bootlickers such as you. As they say, in a hotel, the waiter has more arrogance than the owner. So, tell me, are you trying to do this to impress the Portuguese consular members who might be members on this list ? Do you get some brownie points for every post that you make denigrating your own kin ? And from where do you get the gall to criticize Lohia ? you who vamooshed to Bahamas on just getting one stick, and still remembering it 45 years later, compared to Lohia who held the hand of a gun wielding policemen and stopped him in his tracks ? You are not even a mosquito in front of a giant personality like Lohia, man. Re: the line man that you are talking about, if I have done anything wrong, I am willing to pay the penalty as per the law of the land. I have nothing to hide. Come to India and prosecute me if you have the guts. You probably dont have the guts to even live in India. It is not easy as pounding uselessly from a keyboard in Bahamas. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] June 18- Let the Revolution Begin
Eugene Correia: 1: Telo was NOT happy that the Indian government that instead of him being made the supervisor of the Portuguese section of AIR, Nehru prevered Laxmanrao Sardesai. 2: JC likes to tease. He should give us the gist of the conversation with Telo. But then to ask in the same manner he asks others, how would others verify he is telling the truth and not telling us manufactured facts. However, stop the suspense and also stop this tread. = jc's response: So Eugene, Telo expected a job from Nehru in return for some speeches hanh? Brilliant!!! Is that the type of nationalism that Fred, you and Samir have been touting and flouting? How come, then that you guys do not support Aires for a Govt post? You are right on one point. I do like to tease. If the 'hypersensitive' journos (especially the ones who believed that Ole Xac BC was either Paulo Colaco or definitely jc) ...yes...IF those alleged 'hypersensitive' journos get a Type 1 hypersensitivity reaction every time I post something, I suppose - they deserve it. These alleged 'hypersensitive' journos have been in charge of the information station for several decades. What stories have they told you and when? Have they not buried their head in the sand - until the very end? WHO really fought hard and openly against the communal VCD? When did the alleged 'hypersensitive' journos join? When did they know about the infamous VCD? When out they have known? And there is this chap aka Mario Cabral.anyway. And these journos have the nerve to talk? BTW: Have I stated any facts in my recent posts on Telo, or merely asked questions? Never mind your interpretation - but do provide me the list of facts that I may have manufactured like some of the folks here. WRT the conversations with Telo: There is a riverfront room - first left as soon as you enter a former Palace in Goa. It was known as the VIP room. Now ...you go figure out - if you are interested. As I said before, I support breast feeding, not spoon feeding. I will provide one bit of spoon-food for those (like Samir) who might not know. The Opinion Poll was NOT 45 years ago! Let us learn to research properly (and as Marx/Gadgil say ...Question everything) before we jump up and down saying ...Zoi Zoi. jc
Re: [Goanet] The International Goan Convention July 2008
Mario said: This post contains my responses to first Seb and then Edward who both misunderstood what I had written previously. - Mario had previously said: and we Ph.D.'s are just a bunch of Einstein wannabes. -- Reply: Einstein was a PhD was he? I, all along thought he had left school and was working as a clerk in an office facing the clock tower, working out his own calculations in his spare time when he was bored. Seb asked you a simple question; 'are you' or 'are you not a PhD'. Who had lost the train of thought? You go on to say he has spelling mistakes, yet your next mail to Rui says spelling does not matter on Goanet. If you are not a PhD, why put yourself among them by saying WE the PhDs? ED. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] We need Whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar
Mark, with due respect to you, you must realise that the Leader of the Opposition is not a simple, inexperienced whistle blower. Ex CEOs like him must be pat with their home work since, all the where-withals are at their disposal. Evidence is a plenty that this whistle blowing is done to appease some vested interests, unprepared, raw at best opening his vulnerable flank wide open for attacks. HOME-WORK, dear Mark, Home-work is not seen here. Btw, when you say that the police has every right to investigate , we accept that. And we too, as a party, whose member Sebastian is, want him investigated for possible naxal connections. But that should have been done prior to such shallow dramatics. Here, it looks like it is a kid who is performing to get a lolipop which is a must get at any cost. Also, BTW, the general feeling is that the conduct of the HOME open session of this Ad-Hoc committee by the Ex-CEO stinks as he has not followed the procedures laid down and has gone on a totally different tangent not only to the alarm of senior department heads like the CS and the IGP but also to the ire of the general public attending, the house having been full to the capacity. As for me, I have given him 2 marks out of 10 for his performance. It is not the person that I have reservations about but the procedures followed and things done that I have reservations about. or instance, Babu Kaulekar, Damu Naik, Davalikar (Junior) and especially Jose Lourenco have performed exceedingly well. We expected excellence from the Ex-CEO, but it was just a down the road whistle-blower :-)). rgds floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Mark D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] We need Whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar It is very surprising the way people are targeting Mr. Manohar Parrikar for his statement or information he has given to the Police about some naxalite activities simmering in mining areas of Goa as he is duty bound to do so being the Chairman of the Ad-Hoc house committee on Home Affairs. The police have been in the knowledge of these activities and have in camera accepted that they are having some information of naxal activites and are keeping a vigil on the same. It is their duty to nip the naxal activity in the bud before the same spreads to the entire state and converts the peace loving Goan populace into terror activists...
[Goanet] Shame on Manohar Parrikar
Rajan said: To Goanet - Manohar Parrikar's utterance today branding Goan activists as Naxalites is despicable. Shame on him. Regards,r Reply, I'm amazed that inspite of your resident abroad (for a short time) you could not detect the ulterior motives of MP. Why didn't you see at the interview that: 1. The way he was sitting - he did not care a damn about YOU. 2. The way he was waving his hands in the air - he considers the public as stupid. 3. Why was he given the questions in advance to study? was it fair? 4. Couldn't MP find some other word other than N'lite to describe Goans activists, does MP have a vocabulary? Is IIT a waste of time? ED. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] Happy Birthday Alfred!
May many more bottles of ABSOLUT vodka find their way down Alfred's thraot. Roland. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Clinton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goanetters, May be a little bit late in announcing, but It's Alfred's birthday today. Warm wishes from everybody I'm sure, and I'll surely convey it across when I meet him this evening at his place at Hasselby in Stockholm.
[Goanet] Your presence on Sunday, June 22 at 10.00 a.m.
Hello Sabhaites and Friends, Re: Meeting in support of Sisters at Mary Immaculate Girl's H. School, Jeevan Bima Nagar, next Karuna Hospital , Borivali West at 10.00 a.m on Sunday, June 22. We want a large turnout for this meeting. A brief details of what happened is given below and our specific demands. We also need to plan our future course of action. RE; THE BOMBAY CATHOLIC SABHA CONDEMNS THE INTIMADATORY TACTICS OF MNS ACTIVISTS ON THE SISTERS WHO ARE MANAGING THE MARY IMMACULATE GIRL'S HIGH SCHOOL, BORIVALI. SEEKS INTERVENTION OF THE DEPUTY CHIEF MINISTER / HOME MINISTER TO PROVIDE POLICE PROTECTION TO THE SISTERS AND THE INSTITUTION AND ALL CONVENT SCHOOLS IN MUMBAI. The activists of the MNS barged into the school premises of Mary Immaculate Girl's High School, Jeevan Bima Nagar, Borivali West on June19, 2008. The mob was unruly and behaved in a threatening manner., hurling abuses and derogatory remarks against the School Principal and Manager who happened to be Nuns. We are surprised that they have not been taught elementary manners how to behave with women. This pressure tactic was a ruse to seek admissions. The local DCP Mr. Ranade was very helpful But the Sisters have been terified by such type of goonda tactics. We understand that they have threatened the Institution that they would return back on June 24th at 10.00 a.m. They have also threatened if their demands are not met than they will shut down the school for an indefinite period of time. This warning is not limited only to your school but to all convent schools. We demand the following: 1. The intervention of the Deputy Chief Minister and Home Minister to provide police protection to the Sisters and the said Institution and to all Convent Schools. 2. Restraining order on such elements 3. Our constitutional rights as a Minority Institution should be protected at all times. 4. Apprehend the culprits and prosecute them accordingly. The Bombay Catholic Sabha will monitor the situation and plan its future course of action accordingly. Best Regards, Dolphy D'souza President THE BOMBAY CATHOLIC SABHA St Michael's Church, Mahim, Mumbai 400 016. Tel:24463853 / 9820226227
[Goanet] Memorandum regarding the Official Language Aact 1987 of Goa
Friends, I have spoken my views concerning the Official Language Act 1987 and submitted a memorandum to the Chairperson of ad hoc committee on Official Language. the text of memorandum is as follows. Pratap Naik, S.J. 20 June 2008 Hon’ble Speaker, Goa Legislative Assembly Porvorim, Goa Sub: Deletion of “Konkani Language means Konkani in Devanagari script” in the Official Language Act 1987 Respected Sir, Hon’ble Finance Minister of Goa in his Budget Speech of 2008-2009 has quoted Chanakya saying “The happiness of the commoners is the happiness of the King. In happiness of his subjects lies the King’s happiness, in their welfare his welfare. I believe that the type of script should not become a barrier for language development. Though, Konkani is the State Language of Goa, it is spoken and also written in many parts of the country… For instance, in Karnataka, it is written in both Kannada and English script. My Government is committed to develop Konkani language by supporting the institutions working for the promotion of this language.” In Goa Konknni is written both in Roman and Devanagari scripts. Roman script is the most popular script of Konknni. In Goa prior to liberation and even afterwards, written Konknni was equated with Konknni in Roman script only.. Yet, the Official Language Act 1987 has deliberately ignored the Roman script and has defined “Konkani language” means Konkani language in Devanagari script. This mischievous definition of Konknni has done injustice for the last 21 years to a large section of Goan population “commoners” who use Roman script for Konknni. Besides, this definition has hampered the growth of Konknni. It has caused irreparable division among Konknnis, namely Konknni speakers. Those who use Roman script are labeled as pro-Portuguese and anti-patriotic no class citizens of the State of Goa. A Language and its script have no intrinsic connection. Language is first spoken and when the need arises it is used for written communication. Besides, while defining a language nobody defines it in terms of a particular script. For example, nobody will say Marathi means Marathi written in Devanagari script. While formulating the Official Language Bill and passing it in the Goa assembly, the Devanagari proponents through their conspiracy succeeded to introduce the definition of Konknni. This historical injustice and fraud has to be rectified. Equality, dignity and justice must be restored in the Official Language Act to all Konknnis of Goa. Hence, as a researcher of Konknni I request the Goa Govt. to delete the definition of Konknni in the Official Language Act 1987 as early as possible to foster peace and unity among Konknnis. If the present Govt. sincere about the quotation of its Finance Minister which I have quoted earlier, then without further delay the Govt. should initiate the process to rectify the Official Language Act. I am giving my justification based on facts related to Konknni which I have compiled. I have enclosed these facts along with this letter. Thanking you, Yours truly, Dr Pratap Naik, S.J. Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr B.B.Borkar Road Alto Porvorim, Goa – 403 521 Cell phone: 9850658565 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enclosed: Facts related to Konknni Language as on 19 June 2008 Messenger blocked? Want to chat? Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php
[Goanet] Mishearing Parrikar
Manohar-bab Parrikar has called Seby [Sebastian Rodrigues] a NAXALITE. Folks, Manohar Parrikar said Seby is Nice all night and day, in fact Seby is nice all the time since he is fighting to protect the villagers against the construction and mining mafia and their agents (Goan politicians). This has been misheard as Naxalite. Regards, George
Re: [Goanet] We need Whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar
Mark
We do not need whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar [Manohar]. We need more Sebys
and those figthing to save their land from abuses from the corrupt building and
mining mafia.
Solidarity with Seby and the other good people {activists and villagers) who
are fighting the good fight.
Regards,
George
--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mark D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] We need Whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 12:48 AM
It is very surprising the way people are targeting Mr. Manohar Parrikar
for his statement or information he has given to the Police about some
naxalite activities simmering in mining areas of Goa as he is duty bound
to do so being the Chairman of the Ad-Hoc house committee on Home
Affairs.
[Goanet] GMAS Press Release - June 21, 2006
To Goanet - June 21, 2008 Press release 1) At a meeting held today, the Goa’s Movement Against SEZs (GMAS) discussed the various issues pertaining to the SEZs in the state of Goa. Following the discussion, GMAS warns all promoters of SEZs in Goa to stop pursuing their exploitative designs on Goa’s soil. GMAS reminds the SEZ promoters that all political parties, all NGOs, and the entire population of Goa are opposed to SEZs in Goa, in any form. The Government of India cannot impose SEZs on the people of Goa when the people and the Government do not want these SEZs as they are not in the interest of the State and its people. 2) GMAS warns the SEZ promoter Panchbhoomi not to use the projections of the Interim Report of the Regional Plan 2021 to justify their SEZ. Present experience shows that these projections are not at all realistic for the present population as well as existing industry since both are facing severe shortages of water to the extent that they cannot get continuous water supply even for one hour throughout the state of Goa. The ploy of justifying Panchbhoomi SEZ based on mere projections is not only malicious but also vested. Further, it is observed that much of the Panchbhoomi SEZ encroaches upon forest area. 3) The Government’s proposal to part with land resources for the so-called Educational Institutions was discussed in view of the scarcity of the land in Goa. Members expressed concerns and questioned whether this was another move to brings in SEZs in another form. Further, they questioned the benefits of All-India institutions that are presently functioning in the state of Goa to the local people. In view of this, parting with nearly 40 lakhs sq metres for the so-called higher educational commercial institutions appears to be another attempt to sell Goa to the builders and land sharks from all over India and abroad. 4) At the meeting, GMAS members felt that the Goa government does not appear to have a definite policy on the land use to fulfill the genuine needs of the people of Goa. This is evident from the fact that offhand decisions are made wherein government indulges in reckless disposal of prime and scarce Goan land resources to all and sundry who approach them for the same. It is not known whether the Goa government operates on an ad hoc basis on the matter of land use. 5) GMAS emphatically reiterates its demand and calls upon the Government of Goa and the Union Ministry of Commerce and Industry to immediately denotify the 3 notified SEZs and to resolve the issues once and for all at the earliest. GMAS further demands that the Government of Goa should abolish the SEZ policy in the state of Goa. Matanhy Saldanha Convener
[Goanet] Instigation Porrikar E-style...
Instigation Porrikar E-style... The allegations that Naxalities have infilterated into Goa is shocking...but greateful to some one who had the guts to say it loud and clear... Goans by now know well...Goa is not at danger from Naxals, but communial politicians...Nobody wants Goa to be converted into a Gujarat... Goa is in a greater danger of the communial divide and instigators with a hidden agenda. Porrikar is famous for his instigative and rumour filled politics when he is out of power. It is very unfortunate for the Goans to have such a politician as the leader of opposition at the moment... Also, it is sad that Porrikar and his photographers cannot capture the infilteration of the Russian and Israli mafias into Goa. Porrikar and his photographers and his front benchers turn a blind eye to the large scale drug peddling along the beaches of Goa. The garbage issues... Well done Porrikar, yet another inciting and provocative allegation from you... I bet your agenda is to ignite flames that could ultimately burn Goa and that will include yourself. Cedric da Costa Dubai
Re: [Goanet] Goan Intrigues and incarnation
Well said that, Pravin Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goan Intrigues and incarnation Jason wrote: More seriously, I think it is Rajan Parrikar who should be credited with being the true incarnation of Hitler. I think that is a totally unfair comment on Rajan. Hitler did not go around photographing the destruction that lay behind in the gas chambers. So there. To many it can seem that Rajan's captions are excessive but if you go out there on ground, the reality is sometimes worse than what any camera can capture..
Re: [Goanet] The Rape of Goa.....as a tool to Save Goa
Mervyn Lobo writes: Sandeep, you have great mentors! There is nothing creative about Rajans coarse language. I can send you two different emails of what followed from Rajan. It may be beautiful language to you, I find it disgusting. You can also ask Miguel how he interpreted Rajan's 'literal' language. Mervyn, I quoted Osho not because I consider him as my spiritual Guru but simply to illustrate that words that may sound vulgar in one context may not really be vulgar when used in a different context. Nothing more and nothing less! Let me now take the extreme position and come on your side. I'll now grant it to you that his post may be crude and vulgar, but even then the fuss over it is needless. The story of Buddha's response to the angry young man who tried to insult him by spitting venom and abuse at his face comes to my mind. The Buddha simply asked the man if people ever visited him in his home. Surprised at the change of topic, the man answered yes. The Buddha then asked if his visitors ever brought gifts. When the man replied yes again, the Buddha asked what would happen if he refused to accept the gifts? Who would the gifts belong to then? The man said that, of course, they would still belong to those who brought them. The Buddha then calmly said, In the same way, since I do not accept your insults, they remain with you. Rajan's post, however crude and vulgar it may have been, should have been ignored likewise. He probably used that kind of language to get on someone's nerves and by being upset; you all gave him what he actually wanted. If you would have ignored him, he would have ended up looking like a fool himself. On a related note, I overheard two kids fighting on the street the other day, probably over a similar silly thing. One kid kept on abusing while the other stayed cool and calm, absolutely unaffected by the barrage of insults. After some time, the unaffected kid simply replied: I'm made of rubber; you're made of glue, and everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Maybe this little kid can teach us important lessons in life. Let's simply ignore all the insults that are hurled our way and they will no longer be ours. They will simply stick to haunt those who choose to throw them. However good Rajan may be as Pravin has repeatedly tried to illustrate, it is equally true that some of his thoughts are not compatible in a vibrant progressive democracy. Let's choose wise ways to respond to him. We will ignore the obscene vulgar stuff! Cheers Sandeep
[Goanet] Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Alfred!
Tio Alfredo, Parabens! Ad Multos Anos. Francis. Toronto. _ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207
[Goanet] O Coqeiro
Hi All, I had the dubious fortune of being present at O Coqueiro when the famous Charles Sobhraj was arrested by(then) Inspector Madhukar Zende, the Super Cop from Bombay (now Mumbai) It was the wedding reception of my wife's first Cousin, George Martins from Parra. The wedding reception had just begun and all of a sudden there was a commotion. At first, we thought that the usual had happened - just a guy or two getting high and having a fracas. It must be noted that the reception was in the open air area of the newer part of O Coqueiro and Gines Viegas was running his usual business from the bar and the inner hall of the old building. There were a number of clients there - some eating, some drinking, some rubber neckers, others waiting to make a phone call in the bad old days when you had to book a call hours and.hours in advance and wait and wait and wait . What better than to quaff a few to lighten the boredom of waiting? A large number of foreigners came to Coqueiro's to make overseas calls . In the days when overseas calls were difficult to get (No ISD, STD), Gines, with the flourish of a wand would enable these calls through his trusted lieutenant Delfino. Banking on this fact, Zende kept a watch on the Coqueiro and the rest is history. When things had quietened down, curiosity got the better of us and abandoning the reception temporarily, we went to the car where Sobhraj was trussed like a chicken with thick ropes and manacled. A hyper Zende was proudly announcing to any one and every one that the prisoner was Charles Sobhraj the famous criminal and that this was the second time he had arrested him. Apparently, while arresting Sobhraj, Zende said, Hello Charles, do you remember me? I am Madhukar Zende and I arrested you once before in Bombay. Later that evening, there was a clamour for photographs of the arrest. Unfortunately, I had left the camera at my in laws place in Parra where we had made a pit stop after the nuptials. (Had I carried my camera like JoeGoaUK..?) Striking a different note, I would like to say that O Coqueiro of today is not the same O Coqueiro of yester years when Gines supervised every thing with his mother overseeing the kitchen. It had a more homely atmosphere with the proprietor interacting with the clients. Gines also had superb culinary skills. Many a time, Gines would sit a a table and chat with a few known clients. When in a mellow mood, he would produce a guitar and sing South of the border and other oldies. wow! Although the arrest of Sobhraj was a USP for Gines, I am sure he would not have lionised him by putting up a statue of him in the balcao! -- Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470148 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M: +91 9975 162 897 --- Once upona time there was a tavern...Those were the days
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goa, one of India's leading producers of ore... and pollution
GOA: ONE OF INDIA'S LEADING PRODUCERS OF ORE... AND POLLUTION Some shocking realities about Goa's mining scenario from the Centre for Science and Environment's 2008 report on the Indian environment. The footnotes and boxes are available in the printed version of the report, available from CSE-Delhi and other booksellers. Goa is India's smallest state -- spread over 3,70,200 ha -- it accounts for just 0.11 per cent of India's geographical area. 1 It is, however, one of India's leading producers of iron and manganese: four per cent of India's iron ore reserves and eight per cent of its manganese ore reserves are in Goa (see Table 1: Goa's mineral wealth).2 In 2004-05, more than 15 per cent of the iron ore produced in the country came from Goa.3 The state has about eight per cent of its total area under mining, the highest in the country (see Map on page 142: Minerals and forests).4 Some 400 mining leases have been granted in Goa till 2002-03, covering approximately 30,325 ha -- this works out to almost five per cent of the total area leased out for mining major minerals in the country.5 Of these, 222 mining leases have been granted for extracting iron ore: this accounts for 56 per cent of the total area under mining (see Graph 1: Area under mine leases).6 The number of leases and the total area covered under them have remained almost constant over the years -- in 1995-96, the area under mining leases was 30,802, while in 2002-03, it was 30,325 (see Graph 2: Mining leases over the years). But the area under mining in Goa is all set to zoom in coming years. As per government records sought under the Right To Information Act, there are as many as 825 mining lease applications, covering an area of 67,822 ha, under various stages of processing. If these leases are granted, which most probably they will be, more than one-fourth of Goa's land area will come under mining -- a recipe for ecological disaster. Iron ore is Goa's most significant mineral -- accounting for more than 98 per cent of the total mineral production in the state in terms of value (see Table 2: Mineral production).7 Most of the iron ore produced in Goa is exported and mining for export has a huge impact on the state's economy and ecology (see Box: Exporting ore, importing disaster). Goa is a major producer of metallic minerals: the state accounts for 10 per cent of the total value of metallic minerals extracted in the country.8 At just 0.01 per cent, the state's share in the country's total non-metallic mineral value is negligible.9 The value of mineral production in Goa, which has continuously increased since 2000-01 (see Graph 3: Mineral value trends in Goa), stood at Rs 829 crore in 2004-05; iron ore accounted for 99 per cent of this value.10 The value of minor minerals produced in 2004-05 was estimated at Rs 55 crore.11 The state contributed one per cent of the value of minerals produced in the country.12 But the mineral royalty received by the state government was a pittance -- Rs 15 crore, Rs 18 crore and a little more than Rs 17 crore respectively in 2002-03, 2003-04 and 2004-05.13 Revenues from mining account for a minuscule portion of the state's total revenues -- between 0.8-1 per cent.14 While private miners are making windfall profits, the government and the people of the state are seeing none of it. The mining industry in Goa employs about 11,000 persons directly, and about 10,000 persons indirectly, during the mining season from October to May.15 The major mining and mineral-based companies operating in Goa are Sesa Goa, Chowgules, Dempo and Salgaocar, which together extract about 67 per cent of Goa's total iron ore, and account for 68 per cent of Goa's ore exports.16 The key iron ore deposits are located in Bicholim, Sanguem and Satari taluks, while manganese deposits are confined to the southern and south-eastern parts of Sanguem. Around 1,282 ha of forest land has been diverted for mining activities, which is about four per cent of the total area under mining in the state.17 There is reason to believe that the figures of forest land diverted for mining are much higher. For one, large areas of forests in the state are not classified in government records. These are private forests or community lands, and so forest clearance is not necessary here. Mining done on such forest land is unlikely to be documented. Illegal encroachment is rampant. Even the state government admits it -- according to the Economic Survey 2005-06, an area of 2,66,000 sq m of government land has been identified as being 'illegally encroached' by mining companies. Whatever the figures are, there is no doubt that mining has completely devastated Goa's pristine forests. According to a report
[Goanet] Unity is the Key.
Hope at last, with groups/individuals on overtime to Save Goa its Unique Identity. However, some with perceived objectives for the same, are fighting/sabotaging others working for the same objectives. What am I missing? I discussed with some MLA's, issues on Employment, Identity, Mega-Projects, Uncontrolled Migrants Influx, Mining, Non-Goan Land Sales, Corruption etc; they seem reluctant to address any critical issue. Empty Promises, Political Excuses, Passing the buck etc summarises their response. I think that they will not antagonise their Delhi Masters; who control their political destinies and they will not jeopardise their illegitimate incomes or migrant vote banks. They are in politics only to selfishly loot /destroy Goa. The Government will act for Goan Interests ONLY if the people actually force them to do so; for which we need unity!! Clearly our historical disunity, immature crab mentality simultaneous exploitation by politicians, has affected Goa Goans. It's high time we set aside our personal differences/interests work in unity for Goa. My plea is that IF EACH ONE OF US TRULY WANTS TO SAVE GOA FOR THE GOANS, then let us at least work together on agreed, issue based, common objectives. Our Unity is the Key to Saving Goa. Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please read my Blog: http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/2008/06/
[Goanet] EURO 2008 DRAW, proceeds to benefit Goa Sudharop
An update - Another division runner-up wins. Russia over Holland. Spain is now the only undefeated team - will they prevail or will the last remaining division runner-up, Italy, win in tomorrow's game? When is the last time 4 division runners-up made it to the semis? For some of you football is a religion and tomorrow, Sunday, you will fulfill your religious obligation and watch the game. An exciting Sunday ahead. 5 teams, 5 people left in the pool. SpainAidan Pinto ItalyChris Vaz Russia Milan Kojnok Turkey Conrad Rodricks Germany Gabe Menezes May the best team win. George Pinto
[Goanet] Goa news for June 22, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa vets examine hawksbill sea turtle - International Animal Rescue [11 hours ago] In June the vets at the International Animal Rescue centre in Goa had an unusual patient in the form of a giant Hawksbill sea turtle. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.iar.org.uk/news/2008/jun08-2.shtmlcid=0ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNFReoXAjjfwHbnd4rWG7mAxxVyXxQ *** Children\'s court issues notice to Fiona - Hindustan Times [13 hours ago] PTI Goa's Children's Court has issued notice to Fiona Mackeown, whose daughter Scarlett Keeling was found dead on Goa's beach. The notice, which is issued ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/redir.aspx?ID=29526f44-7ed3-47be-9aa0-28debcf320a1cid=1223454594ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNHgvqViVF-EfHxnEKsBnvHmqy7EGQ *** Govt vows to restore all reserved seats for Goan students - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] The NITs, formerly known as regional engineering colleges, had reserved altogether 62 seats for the students of Goa, Daman and Diu until the academic year ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062276cid=0ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNHF64vyVjmxr1iWeOopa180W5tfqQ *** Police to revive citizens panel meets in South Goa - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] MARGAO #148; The superintendent of police South Goa, Mr Shekhar Prabhudessai recently said that the police would revive the citizens committee meetings at ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062266cid=0ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNF83frMquSi3s0uJWgbH_jgDQ1ZzA *** Goa govt. keeps vigil on Naxal-like activities - Hindu [Jun 20, 2008] Panaji (PTI): The Goa government is keeping a close watch on naxal activities witnessed in recent months in the mining belts of this iron ore-rich state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200806201863.htmcid=1223142973ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNG9xoHI9jjaNrxTJ4ReLgOwuATZZQ *** Naxals gaining ground in mining belt: Parrikar - Herald Publications [Jun 19, 2008] SIMI: Parrikar warned that the Students Islamic Movement of India was shifting its operations to Goa as Karnataka was becoming too hot for them. http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=5842cid=2cid=1223142973ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNHscOfS1Jd2ozY9N8qy5p3evElPgQ *** Red corridor spreading to Goa - Times of India [Jun 19, 2008] PANAJI: The government is worried that the red corridor could extend its activities to Goa. In the last two or three years there have been Naxal activities ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Red_corridor_spreading_to_Goa/articleshow/3147081.cmscid=1223142973ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNHru26037gBMb_tt4-cNL_yVv9CLg *** Rising concern over Naxal activities in mining areas - Navhind Times [Jun 19, 2008] They may not have gathered any substantial foothold in Goa but are definitely spreading discontent in the mining areas, desiring to explode this discontent ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062046cid=1223142973ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNH1gW9XRuy1lrshVpxaGGK3zLvK3Q *** Dazzling display of diamonds in Goa - Times of India [18 hours ago] We love organising our show in Goa. People here are really warm and hospitable, said Rajiv Patankar, chief of the organising committee. And why not? ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Dazzling_display_of_diamonds_in_Goa_/articleshow/3149447.cmscid=0ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNHpX_dcsBR-9m7RCxrkJO2nQ2fX4w *** Anti-mining drive refutes Naxalism in Goa - NDTV.com [20 hours ago] PTI As Goa state police confirmed keeping a close watch on possibility of Naxal-like activities in the tourist hotspot state's mining belt, anti-mining ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080053824ch=6/21/2008%208:36:00%20AMcid=0ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNFnvztsiz5wQv2n49ddyXmsB60H0g Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Goan Intrigues and incarnation
Jason Keith Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More seriously, I think it is Rajan Parrikar who should be credited with being the true incarnation of Hitler. Dear Jason, Rhetoric must be held in check, otherwise it becomes hyperbole and no one is served. I suspect you want to take the sentence above back. To the statewide problem - Rajan's and JoeGoaUk's photos of a Goa devastated by the building and mining special interests should motivate us all to one goal - protect Goa from land abuses and the accompanying problems. If people allege that Rajan focuses on Congress builders, let someone pick up a camera and show us the devastation by who they feel are BJP builders. It is impossible to trust either party and, hence, non-politicians need to come together in unity and oppose the forces who threaten to overwhelm us. I am sure the building mafia smacks it lips in glee when it sees infighting among activists. Unity and solidarity, George
[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : King of his castle
This message was sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED], as a service of dnaindia.com -- Comments from sender : Gday Goanet. All about Wendell Rodricks. Thanks Bosco. rubygoes -- Full Story can be found at http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1172656 King of his castle Goa is oxygen for me, declares Wendell Rodricks, I breathe and live in a creative bubble no one can understand. until they see my almost yogic, pure existence here. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = For news updates throughout the day, visit dnaindia.com http://www.dnaindia.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = © 2005-2008 Diligent Media Corporation Ltd. All rights reserved.
[Goanet] The International Goan Convention July 2008 -
Mario wrote: In the US we have a case right now of an Indian professor [with a Ph.D. which will make Edward happy] who is on trial for paying a hit man $10,000 to kill his black daughter-in-law. -- Reply: Yes Mario, When I read stupid action stories of PhD people, it does make me happy. Which brings me back to my original belief that PhD people are time wasters. What is the point of a PhD? If these people cannot see right from wrong? PhD people (especially Indians) are book worms (that is what I meant by saying copying). Plus, we have a special case in UK, where a DR Parsaud plagiarised for his PhD. QED. ED. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] Why can't Goan politicians dress-up?
I am certainly honoured, maam :-)) ((-: But then U wl never see the gaddhi or a K-Pajama on my person, ever. Reconcile to that??. Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: [Goanet] Why can't Goan politicians dress-up? Why do Goan politicians always have to dress like they are out taking their dog for walk, even if they are addressing public meetings and gatherings? What is the virtue in wearing that bush-coat hanging out over a cheap polyester pant and chappals that have seen too many monsoons pass by? Even the Chinese, who you can't beat for nationalism and patriotism, will not leave the house without a proper business-suit or atleast that Chairman Mao jacket. What is this notion, that the politician has to represent the common man?. Which common man in Goa goes for a business meeting or even a ladainho without a proper long-sleeved shirt, pant and tie? Can we all just contribute a few bucks and gift these politicians a Raymonds voucher?
Re: [Goanet] The Rape of Goa.....as a tool to Save Goa
This is the first time I've heard that the words tool and ejaculate are vulgar and obscene. How prissy do we have to be? I repeat my previous message. Has any one on this forum EVER engaged in what someone called a disgusting act? Is that an obscene or vulgar function? So those of us who have partaken of this disgusting act are obscene and vulgar people? Then those who are innocent of this affliction shall be allowed to cast the first stone! Please, let's act grown up! Mr. Moderator -- this unwarranted abuse of Rajan must stop. The man is doing yeoman's work without remuneration and at considerable personal sacrifice--in fact he has been spending his own hard won treasure to bring the atrocities being committed to our land to everybody's attention perhaps in the hope that we Goans will finally take off the blinkers and face reality! There are more important things to worry about--the corruption and concretization of Goa. I wish everybody would put their differences aside and unite to rescue Goa from the rascals. But we see prima donnas around who take umbrage at every imagined slight to plough their own course of action. Unity is the best course of action--else the bhaille will soon overtake us and convert Goa into another Indian slum! Wake up, Goans! - Original Message - From: Sandeep Heble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Rape of Goa.as a tool to Save Goa Mervyn Lobo writes: Sandeep, you have great mentors! There is nothing creative about Rajans coarse language. I can send you two different emails of what followed from Rajan. It may be beautiful language to you, I find it disgusting. You can also ask Miguel how he interpreted Rajan's 'literal' language. Mervyn, I quoted Osho not because I consider him as my spiritual Guru but simply to illustrate that words that may sound vulgar in one context may not really be vulgar when used in a different context. Nothing more and nothing less! Let me now take the extreme position and come on your side. I'll now grant it to you that his post may be crude and vulgar, but even then the fuss over it is needless. The story of Buddha's response to the angry young man who tried to insult him by spitting venom and abuse at his face comes to my mind. The Buddha simply asked the man if people ever visited him in his home. Surprised at the change of topic, the man answered yes. The Buddha then asked if his visitors ever brought gifts. When the man replied yes again, the Buddha asked what would happen if he refused to accept the gifts? Who would the gifts belong to then? The man said that, of course, they would still belong to those who brought them. The Buddha then calmly said, In the same way, since I do not accept your insults, they remain with you. Rajan's post, however crude and vulgar it may have been, should have been ignored likewise. He probably used that kind of language to get on someone's nerves and by being upset; you all gave him what he actually wanted. If you would have ignored him, he would have ended up looking like a fool himself. On a related note, I overheard two kids fighting on the street the other day, probably over a similar silly thing. One kid kept on abusing while the other stayed cool and calm, absolutely unaffected by the barrage of insults. After some time, the unaffected kid simply replied: I'm made of rubber; you're made of glue, and everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Maybe this little kid can teach us important lessons in life. Let's simply ignore all the insults that are hurled our way and they will no longer be ours. They will simply stick to haunt those who choose to throw them. However good Rajan may be as Pravin has repeatedly tried to illustrate, it is equally true that some of his thoughts are not compatible in a vibrant progressive democracy. Let's choose wise ways to respond to him. We will ignore the obscene vulgar stuff! Cheers Sandeep
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goa, one of India's leading producers of ore... and pollution
In this lengthy post, packed with data, I was not able to find ANY mention whatsoever of AIR pollution due to the loading of ore in the ports. This may be the most widely visible sign of the ravages of mining on the environment of Goa.
[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 138 - NAXALITES AND ANTI-MINING ACTIVITIES
NAXALITES AND ANTI-MINING ACTIVITIES Give a dog a bad name and hang him, Is a saying that is so apt, however grim, When one talks of Naxalites exploiting anti-mining activities In Goa, alleging that people's natural proclivities Is something of which one should take a view that is dim. The truth is that the people have now awoken to the reality, And now abandoned their former complacent mentality. They have realised it is not enough to be whining, If they really want to get rid of the evils of mining, And need to raise their united voices with thundering vitality. - Shanti Dhoot RE: Goa news for June 22, 2008 Anti-mining drive refutes Naxalism in Goa - NDTV.com PTI As Goa state police confirmed keeping a close watch on possibility of Naxal-like activities in the tourist hotspot state's mining belt, anti-mining activists have ridiculed the claim. http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080053824ch=6/21/2008%208:36:00%20AMcid=0ei=-o5dSN2pD4SiggP_9_2pAwusg=AFQjCNFnvztsiz5wQv2n49ddyXmsB60H0g
[Goanet] 'Parrikar's allegations baseless'
'Parrikar's allegations baseless' PANJIM, JUNE 21- The Goa Su-Raj Party rubbishes the allegations made by Manohar Parrikar, the Opposition Leader, Chairman of the Ad-Hoc Committee on Police-Home, which had its deliberations on June 19 at the Goa Legislative Assembly Complex that Sebastian Rodrigues is a naxal operating in Goa's mining belts. Its General Secretary Floriano Lobo, who also deposed before the Committee during the morning session, represented the Goa Su-Raj Party in the above deliberations. According to a press release issued here, Sebastian Rodrigues was a member of the Party, a well-informed activist against the mining atrocities in Goa. He was encouraged and aided by the Party to make the people of Goa's mining belts aware that the mineral resources of Goa is the 'Gift of God' to Goa and Goans and not to the mine owners/operators, nor to the Government of Goa and/or to the Central government. he Party had authorized Sebastian Rodrigues to make the suffering people of Goa's mining belts aware that if the controlled exploitation of these rich mineral resources of Goa do not benefit Goa and its people, these must remain buried and untouched, irrespective of whether the mining lobby of Goa, the government of Goa or the Central Government likes it or not. Goa Su-Raj Party has, at one time, financed a short video documentary made by Sebastian Rodrigues on 'Pissurlem Mines'; the draining of the water from the deep mining pits to afford further mining, resulting in the domestic wells of the locality running dry soon after the monsoon season; cultivable agricultural fields silted, making the tilling of the same impossible, scores of citizens of the locality suffering from various diseases. http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=5920cid=26
Re: [Goanet] My Sincere Request...
I am amased at such a request by dr.barad. Until Satyawan was posting some inner info. he was okay!. the dotor even said he loved reading his posts. The moment he gave the dotor some medicine, he becomes an outcast, so much so that the request comes to even delete his posting from the archives... Funny isnt IT. hAVE a nICE dAY Seb - Original Message - From: Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: [Goanet] My Sincere Request... Dear All / Goanet Moderators / Goanet Owner, Although Goanet does not insist identity details of a person TO BE A MEMBER OF GOANET it should be one's moral responsibility as a true member of Goanet to come forward and share one's identity when any other member of Goanet puts out such request. Non disclosure of identity despite request raises suspiciousness in the mind of members about the authenticity of an individual. Please recall the FAMOUS DEBATE ON FAKE IDENTITY which Goanet had to shoulder in the past. Now considering present fraud played by Satyavan Govekar I request Goanet (Moderators as well as Owner) to delete all the messages posted by Satyavan Govekar to Goanet from the archives of Goanet. I will spell out my fine tuning request after you delete Satyavan's postings from Goanet archives. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] job vacancy in mumbai
Theres a vacancy for a Receptionist at ICICI Bank Kalina Branch - if u know anyone pls fwd her biodata - rgds Viola [EMAIL PROTECTED] viola.dsouza%40icicibank.com -- Best of the Web: Your Eye on the World [EMAIL PROTECTED] Join me on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/edwardlopes7
[Goanet] Telo Mascarenhas by Shashikar Kelekar not Shashikala Kakodkar - final
In response to jc's comment: I suppose the following are examples of GoaNetters (et others) who are people of slave mentality (as per the classification of Dr Samir Kelekar: PhD) : jc, Dr. Teotonio de Souza, Naraina Coisoro, the late Pundalik Gaitonde, the late Jose Inacio Loyola (Portuguese slaves), Cornel da Costa, Eddie Fernandes (British slaves) et al... Samir Kelekar asked some questions (My turn to get asked questions) (:-): I do thank Samir for excluding from this post the FOUL words he used (a la Rajan Parrikar) in the previous response to me - which GoaNet obviously rejected . I know many PhDs - these are the only two PhDs I know who use foul language with any amount of frequency. Anyway ...back to Samir's questions/comments (1-11 infra): (My answers commence with CAPS) [Q1]: tell me --- are you of a slave mentality or not? : [A1] : I AM an absolute slave of details and accuracy. [Q2] : Does the lathi of 45 years back hurt or not? : [A2] QUESTION REJECTED. Questioner asked to check the dates of the Opinion Poll before resubmitting his question. [Q3] : Is your going for Portuguese citizenship a purely opportunistic thing or not? [A3] NO - If Samir knows of any opportunity JC had or needed, he is invited to tell all. [Q4] : Accept the fact that you have teamed up with our conquerers: [A] JC WILL NOT. You have been conquered by Bribery and other forms of Corruption. JC can never be on that team. [Q5]: Even Portuguese would respect the Goan freedom fighters but not white-wannabe bootlickers such as you. As they say, in a hotel, the waiter has more arrogance than the owner. [A5] NOT BEING A WAITER, cannot comment. Are you one? [Q6]: So, tell me, are you trying to do this to impress the Portuguese consular members who might be members on this list ? [A6]: TELL ME WHO THEY ARE. I will try very hard to do the needful to impress them. but NEVER will use foul language. [Q7]: Do you get some brownie points for every post that you make denigrating your own kin? [A7] YOU have some to give? Use them as BRIBES. [Q8]: And from where do you get the gall to criticize Lohia? [A8] QUESTION REJECTED. Questioner requested to provide proof that JC ever criticised Lohia before resubmitting question. [Q9]: You are not even a mosquito in front of a giant personality like Lohia, man. [A9] AGREE, JC is not a mosquito. [Q10] : Re: the line man that you are talking about, if I have done anything wrong, I am willing to pay the penalty as per the law of the land. I have nothing to hide.: [A10]: FAIR enough but Is Samir is telling us it is NOT wrong to bribe? [Q11] : Come to India and prosecute me if you have the guts: [A11]: YOU PROBABLY are plain aware. Individuals do NOT prosecute anybody, ONLY the State does. I do have a question about Lohia. I hear that he thundered etc. Was that a silent thunder or what? From what I have been know, Lohia did not speak in Margao. Now Samir...I hope i have answered you questions and responded to your comments. As you may have noted (hopefully) I have not used foul language in my response to you. If you have something really significant to say - please do so. Yours will be the last word on this topic at this time. sincerely jc Chill out now ...don't hyperventilate everytime you are reminded of those Negligent fathers of Goa who left the newborn to the elements without any plans for the future ..or of your participation (opportunistic) in the corrupt act of bribery. Just a fact of life. Accept it and move Mukar Voss (Move ahead). Don't forever fall into this Mukar Voss, Phattim Voss nonsense. That is meant for the Kilinders in the bus not for waiters or lines-men (:-)
[Goanet] Mishearing Parrikar ... Seby is Nice all right! , NOT Naxalite
Dears,
Manohar-bab thought he was having a friendly chat at his second Home the new
Assembly complex, [Remember his Speaker, Vishwas-bab, even refused to hand
over the keys in February, 2005!]. What better time to begin his home-coming
than a Public Hearing on Home affairs of Goa? He had a captive audience,a
rare commodity for him these days, and it was supposed to be for a hearing
anyway!! So he just informed the people and the Press that Seby was
Nice, all right. He did not realise that the power failure in the Assembly
Complex at that moment was a sign of the times ... and a bad omen for speaking
about home affairs in public. The Bong Oops! Gong did not ring in his head
then. Power failure, you see, can be infectious! ;-) Well, it is difficult to
see the truth in the dark!
This morning I was trying to do things that most people would not dare to
imagine ...reading the GT Weekender Editorial while listening to NDTV news
...when a commercial break distracted me. It sounded like Pravin Sabnis singing
My Goa lies over the green fields, my Goa lies besides the sea. at the Ganv
Ghor Rakhann Manch meeting in Calangute on 25 May, 2008. It was the same
familiar tune as My honey lies over the ocean, my money lies across the sea.
that one hears in the Casinos ...but the words were different , again.My power
was once in my shoulders went the background singing while two old men, in
World Wrestling Federation-type WWF outfits, battled in the Boxing ring
with one chair between the two, till the Punch line came through 'WHAT IS
LONG LIFE WITHOUT POWER! Et tu, Brute?
While, some people are searching for the LOO in Cidade de Goa [as Old Goa
was once known] and others are thinking of their imminent Waterloo, Derek
Almeida [the current Editor of GT] seems to be screaming What a loo? about
the Nice all right facilities on the living edge of the forests and the mines
at distant Colomb.
In the meanwhile, the NEWS FLASH is that the LTTE helicopter thought it was
Colombo and has bombed it last night. The women suicide squads have also been
landed in the forest of Colomb. It is a case of mistaken identity. Why did
someone have to say Oh! after saying Colomb ? One white Tata Sumo jeep with
the licence No. GA 01 G 1196 with the word POLICE written on it was reportedly
seen in the area. Perhaps, the Quepem Police are investigating.
In any case, the humourous Editorial in the GT Weekender is a must read. One
wonders if Derek actually wrote it . it almost looks like Cecil Pinto has
planted it there. ;-) It is VANA-MAHOTSAV time any way. Reap as you sow and
. Read as they plant. Life is too short to learn everything from one's own
mistakes. In fact, one life time is not even long enough to make all the
mistakes! Read Tomcat in the Herald, too. Cats have nine lives and so they
learn more, from the mistakes of others.
Mog asundi.
Miguel
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:55:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Mishearing Parrikar
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manohar-bab Parrikar has called Seby [Sebastian Rodrigues] a NAXALITE.
Folks,
Manohar Parrikar said Seby is Nice all night and day, in fact Seby is nice
all the time since he is fighting to protect the villagers against the
construction and mining mafia and their agents (Goan politicians). This has
been misheard as Naxalite.
Regards,
George
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] We need Whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar
Mark
We do not need whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar [Manohar]. We need more Sebys
and those figthing to save their land from abuses from the corrupt building and
mining mafia.
Solidarity with Seby and the other good people {activists and villagers) who
are fighting the good fight.
Regards,
George
--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mark D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] We need Whistle Blowers like Mr. Parrikar
It is very surprising the way people are targeting Mr. Manohar Parrikar
for his statement or information he has given to the Police about some
naxalite activities simmering in mining areas of Goa as he is duty bound
to do so being the Chairman of the Ad-Hoc house committee on Home
Affairs.
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[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Vareavelea Sunknneank Visov Ghevnk Zhaddam Nant?
Vareavelea Sunknneank Visov Ghevnk Zhaddam Nant? Junachea mhoineant Poornima (full-moon) vo Omas-achea disa hindu ostoreo - zannche ghorkar jive astat - tankam bhoilaiki ani boro fuddar magun Vat Savitri palltat. Hea disa, hindu bailen sokallche tond duin tea uprant donparchea vellar nitoll udkan nhavun zonn eklean Vat Vriksha (Banyan tree) vo voddachea zhaddaxim vochun udkacho ghontt ghevn Vat Savitrichi puja korcheli asta. Voddachea zhaddak sutli banddun fulam ani tandlanchi bhettovnni korun bhurgeank ani ghorkarak borem jivit anvddetat. Upas samballun chovttea disa chondr devak (monn god) udok bhettovun Vat Savitrik argam ditat. Sorginchea Bapan. sonvsar rochtanam mon’xakullacho jiv togpak khatir gorjecheo vostu varo, udok, rukh-zhaddam rochleant. Varea ani udka porim zhaddam-i bhi bhouch unchlem kam’ kortat. Mon’xanchea jivitak zhaddam khub gorjechim ani zhaddam xivai mon’xank jieupacho jinnecho orthuch nam zata aslo. Zhaddam soimbik bhuim vangoddachi (natural landscape) ek ghantt, kiteak tanchea vorvim hova (weather) kosmullchem addvarta. Zhaddam, jiv-prannik ani mon’xak prannvayu (oxygen) dita ani vattavoronnann carbon dioxide unnem korta. Tech porim zomnnicho thapomann (temperature) zay titlem samballpak adhar zata. Zhaddamchem rukhodd (wood) amchim ghoram nettoitat ani soboitat. Dekunuch mon’xak jieunk ani borem bholaikechem jivit jietolo zalear rukh-zhaddam odik ani odik ami rovpachi nibel goroz. Punn…. Udorgottichea nanvan, mhagelem bhangara sarkelem Goyem aiz zhaddam vinem vinglem zalam. Rukh-zhaddanim ani dongurlelim bhorlelem mhagalem Goyem vikallea poriavonnan (environmental) ghuspollun fuglam. Eka khallar panchvi (greenery) bhorlelem mhagelem Goyem atam konkritanim nettoilam. Ani poisulean (migrant) jiv tokun jivak irloso visov ghevnk sodtelim vareavelim sobit sunknnim Goyant zhaddam nam ti pollevn ran khateak (forest department) xirap ghalun dusrea zagear pollun geleant. Portuguesa khallar amkam hukumxay khanvchim poddleli punn mhagelea panchvi Goy-ak mat tannim bhurxello hat launk nam. Firgeamnim (Purtegezanim) haddil’lim vo vomplelim kaim foll-zhaddanchim aiz meren follam (fruits) khattat. Ani tim choddan chodd hindu bhousonkhea (majority) asul’lea ganvanim distat. Portugez des-bhoktt toxech tanche niz suttke zuzareanche Goyant asul’leo murti (monument) ami moddleo punn, tannim rompil’lim zhaddam mat azun amchea vangnant distat. Kiteak……..? Him zhaddam amchea chaltea jivitachi kallzi ghetat nhoi? Oi! Dor ek dhorman zhaddacho upeg kela ani kortat. Zhadd naslem zalear Kristi dhormank orth aslo? Khoinchea zhaddar Svami Kristak khillailolo? Hem amkam mothvachem nhoi punn amchea hatant rukhoddacho (lankddacho) khuris dista teddnam ami amchea bhavartan tea rukhoddacho umo ghetat ani amcho bhavart ghott dovortat. Thoddea zhaddamcho jiv vorsanchim vorsam togtta. Povitr Pustokant Jeriko nograntlean Jezu vecho aslo. Angan mottvo aslolo Zakev, Jezuk pollevnk rumbddichea zhaddar choddlolo. Tem zhadd ajun thoim asa mhunn Jeruzaleak povitr nogrant (holy land) yatrikar vo bhett kortele sangtat. Voddachem zhadd hindu dhormant ek orthabhorit xikonn dita. Zhaddak jiv asa mhunn sotmandtat. Magnnim ani dusreo bhetto vodd-zhaddaxim dovortanam jivitan vodd-zhadda itlem aplea ghorkarak jivit magttat (vodd-zhadd 250 tem 300 vorsam togtta) ani apnnacher randponn yevnchem nhoi mhunn hindu bailanchim magnnim astat. Amchea purvozanim roilelim ani rukh-zhaddamnim bhorlelim bhat-bhensam duddu melltat mhunn porkeank vikun kaddlim ani tannim koslech zhaddamche churchure korinastanam mega project vo vorixtt imaroti bandpache prokolp ube kele. Zhaddank lagun amchem Goyem mellea vattovoronann (atmosphere) bhorlam. Az ani fuddarak amkam nitoll varo huskarunk mellonam ani mellchonam. Urlele rukh-zhaddam fottkire udorgottik lagun katrit ravlear mhaka dista zoxem amcheo udkacheo baim duxit (polluted) zavn xud’dh (pure) udok piepak mineral water bottle hanchi goroz zalea tech toren thoddea vorsanim nitoll varo huskavpak oxygen bottle vikott ghevnk poddot mhunn bhirant asa. Lino B. Dourado
